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terrestrialnoob · 5 months

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So, something about Turtle Temper has wormed into my brain like the villain song in a Disney musical. The fandom correctly identifies the way Leo and Raph’s relationship mirrors Yoshi and Saki’s relationship, however, while we the audience map Leo to Yoshi and Raph to Saki, Splinter does it backwards.

When he talks to Raph about his temper, he says Raph’s anger reminds him of himself. Splinter sees an echo of the rivalry he had with Saki and projects it onto Leo and Raph, but with Leo as Saki and Raph as himself. When Splinter sees Raph he sees his own anger, frustration, and failures, and he thinks “If only I had controlled my anger, Saki would not have killed Tang Shen” when we the audience know that’s utter bullshit.

It’s very interesting to have Splinter think this way, and it logically follows through that someone with survivor’s guilt would find some way to blame himself for someone else’s horrible actions. And we can see how it’s negatively affected his sons.

Splinter likely started to praise not showing emotion and punishing emotional outbursts. That can look like good parenting; it can look like he’s teaching his sons to control themselves, but it produced one son terrified of expressing himself and another who feels he can only express emotions in aggressive outbursts. Leo gets rewarded for suppressing himself by being given more attention from Splinter, while Raph gets punished for having emotional outbursts by his feelings and opinions being ignored. Splinter tells him to ignore his feelings, to not let them affect him, but that ignores what causes those feelings.

Yes, it’s Raph’s responsibility to control his behavior and not let his anger put his family in danger, but Leo ignores Raph’s input on missions and Splinter puts the blame for most, if not all, of their disagreements on Raph. Raph is the one who’s uncooperative, he’s the one disobeying orders, he’s the one starting the fights with Leo, even when Leo’s wrong. It’s not surprising that if no one listens to Raph until he’s in their face or yelling at them, that he’ll start with yelling at them.

There’s also something to be said of Raph being held responsible for when his anger throws off a mission, but Mikey gets away with his ADHD ruining missions (ADHD can’t be an excuse when it puts his family in danger, he needs better coping skills).

Anyway, that’s what the worm says, I'll let you know when it says more.

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notveryflamboyantofyou · 1 year

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A Comic for the last part of chapter 7 of rotten reflections by @nicoforlifetrue

#rottmnt #art #rise of the tmnt #i drew this #rotten reflections #rottmnt x 2012 #12 mikey #12 raph #12 donnie #12 leo

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portableleo · 8 days

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raph and his niece

#2012 future au #tmnt #tmnt 2012 #2012 raph #12 raph #raph #lita

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000marie198 · 8 months

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Every.

Single.

Episode!

Istg these two do this thing where they communicate through sharing a single look in nearly every episode

The twins are in a constant mindmeld and I love it

#tmnt #tmnt 2012 #leonardo #raphael #tmnt leo #tmnt raph #tmnt 2012 leo #tmnt 2012 raph #12 leo #12 raph #leonardo hamato #raphael hamato #teenage mutant ninja turtles 2012 #teenage mutant ninja turtles

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percyaugod · 5 months

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Chaos Reincarnate AU

This was part/the result of what I call "Racecar rambles". Where my thoughts are just zooming around and Don't always make sense or I forgot some stuff.

The fact the Rise turtles don't just happen through an accident and had to be purposefully made, unlike the others. The same dimension also has terrifying versions of baddies kike Shredder and Krang. So the turtles just wouldn't have existed at all without intervention?

That would leave Shredder, Krang, a well-meaning but humanity-killing Draxum, and misguided Cassandra loose at once with no one to stop them. It'd only be a matter of time until they got out to another, even weaker dimension. The entire multiverse is doomed.

So the Rise dimension "borrowed" some of the turtles from other dimensions. Just one from each, it'll give them back it later! The other dimensions can function with one less turtle.

12 Raph > Donnie

03 Mikey > Leo

Bayverse Donnie > Mikey

87 Leo > Raph

I was thinking of them at first feeling sick and tired, then eventually starting to physically fade then disappear, maybe their memories fading as well. This gives Bayverse Donnie time to set things up and make it easier for his brothers

87 turtles would be a bit worried, but weird stuff like this is pretty normal for them. They always figure it out in the end. Except they don't and now their brother is missing and have no leader to guide them.

Bayverse Donnie deteriorates even faster as he works frantically to try to find out what's happening before he's gone completely. He's so close but his hands start phasing through the keyboard. He starts breaking down and sobbing that it's not fair. He hid it from the others so he's just gone and they don't even know why.

03 turtles thinking Mikey is just being dramatic as usual. It's not until the turtle that can't sit still hasn't moved in yours that they realize this is serious. The last thing he said being him trying to make a stupid joke to lighten the mood and looking so happy he made Raph smile.

And that leaves 12 Raph. At first he's annoyed that he's sick, and annoyed with his brothers for the teasing he gets for it. But as it persists, the family becomes tense with fear. They've never been sick for that long, their immune systems are built for the sewers, and Raph is the one who gets sick the least and yet the illness isn't transfering to them

12 Raph hates being sick and ignores it until he collapses. This of course makes everyone panic. When he starts getting really bad he clings to the others. Raph's eyes are usually such a vibrant green, but now they're so dull. Raph likes to listen to Donnie anxiously talk about his science stuff as he works, it's oddly relaxing. When Raph finally does disappear Mikey and Chompy are there with him.

#rottmnt #rottmnt au #tmnt 2012 #tmnt 2003 #tmnt 87 #tmnt bayverse #rise of the tmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #03 mikey #bayverse donnie #12 raph #87 leonardo #tmnt au #tmnt crossover #Chaos Reincarnate AU

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whatdancingdorkswasalreadytaken · 7 months

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another thing that really could’ve had so much potential but then was never fucking used in 2012 is leo’s changed voice after her coma.

like, she overhears mikey crying and having a nightmare one night and goes to comfort him and says something like ‘hey, mikey, it’s alright, it’s me’ and she’s shaking him awake and mikey, terrified and half-asleep, shouts ‘go away’ because he doesn’t realise it’s her and thinks it’s one of the monsters or strangers of his dream and her heart just breaks because, even in his sleepy and scared state, her little brother doesn’t recognise her. that her voice is another thing that shredder took from her. that she’s changed now. forever.

raph wonders for ages who’s calling from the other room and thinks someone’s broken into the lair before his eyes widen and he comes to the same realisation. that this is leo, this is what she sounds like, it’s another reminder of what shredder and the others did to her on the day of the invasion.

any of them being upset and wanting to hear comforting words and leo tries but it just doesn’t feel Right and then they realise that it doesn’t feel like it’s leo saying the words, and that’s why it isn’t clicking, because it still sounds like a stranger, because they can still mainly remember what leo had sounded like before.

idk, little things like this.

(edit: sort-of follow up post on this can be read here!)

#tmnt 2012 #12 leo #12 mikey #12 raph #text #transfem leo #headcanons

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letsgetitblog · 11 months

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I saw this on Pinterest and yall-

I can't stop giggling- I don't know why, but I love their postures. It's just shows the differences of them. If that makes any sense-

#tmnt #tmnt 2012 #2012 tmnt #12 leo #12 raph #12 donnie #12 mikey

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sabrondabrainrot · 1 month

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I forget I can just ramble and rant my thoughts!

I try to focus on sharing just my art but I also do writing and try to have a bit of a critical mind when it comes to media I consume.

Now that it has been a few months since I watched all of TMNT 12 I do have some thoughts and opinions and kind of want to just ramble about it before I forget, in an informal manner.

I at first really liked it, it was the second TMNT show I watched after Rise, now that I've been watching the 87 and 03 shows my opinions on 12 did change just a bit but I still do like it!

Literally all the turtles are my son's now. Especially Leonardo (he's blue coded so-). I just think they're so cute and neat!!!

I'm going to put thoughts to spoiler stuff of 12 so if you plan to watch the show then don't click beyond this point!

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So in the last season of TMNT 12 it kind of feels like all the scrapped ideas or random plots that couldn't be fit into the prior seasons were put in this one? I really like the new op it gives of Cowboy Bebop vibes. The op song change is really nice to because I never really looked the tmnt 12 op song before.

However, the plots feel all over the place? There's a mini ark where they're jumping through time meeting Halloween monsters and then another ark where Mikey defeats Satan? Then we get another really tiring ark that's this implied alternate madmax fury road parody that is honestly so depressing? Donnie is just dead.

Which btw, the show likes killing ppl off for dramatic effect. They killed Master Splinter three times and had Mikey and Donnie get scattered to atoms on two separate occasions. I should also mention Leo was in a coma for 3 months with no IV or anything and he woke up relatively fine.

Anyways, going into the last season and stuff leading up to it... They kind of ended with the 87 turtles and the 12 boys finding new passion and inspiration from teaching the 87 boys. I didn't really vibe with it because it just made the 87s the butt of the joke and made them out to be incompetent silly little guys.

They ARE silly little guys but the thing is they're not incompetent. The 87 boys have done some insanely incredible things even when unarmed. Especially when unarmed. I actually think the angle of finding a new way to help people as a means to end the series on an inspired note is fine, the 87 boys even carried on the will and told Bebop and Rocksteady they can be more than Shredder's mutant henchmen. It is very cute and wholesome. I just think they could have maybe done it differently?

Why not set up for them to teach Chi arts? The turtles of 87 don't have any mystical abilities and it would have been interesting to do a set up like that? There are ways to write the finale without just dumping on the original source.

Focusing back on the ending of 12, we also leave on a seriously alarming note. It's just a big mixed bag. After Master Splinter went to run on the hamster wheel in the sky, Leonardo was handed the reigns of the family. He was told "You're the teacher now Leonardo. You're the father. Look after your brothers" and Splinter then willingly walked into his own death. I think the writers maybe thought this was amazing and inspirational or something but I found it incredibly messed up? We start tmnt 12 on all 4 boys birthday. Meaning Splinter himself considers them all to be the same age. And since the series was running they haven't on screen celebrated a birthday and from the implied weather changes most of the seasons 1-4 seem to take place over just a year??? We don't get a definitive timeline (or I'm a bad audience and didn't notice).

So one can only assume Master Splinter was telling his...15 year old son to be the father to his other 15 year old children.

Why do I bring this up at all? After Leonardo takes over the family and he KILLS shredder they go into this rushed cult demon resurrection arc that culminates in the classic dead walk the earth and Mikey defeats Satan. In this arc we meet a ghost splinter who does not even go to see his kids, he just helps Casey and April. But throughout and the lead up to this we have moments of Leo having conversations with what we can perceive as Sensei's ghost in the dojo.

But the climax of the arc cements splinters ghost has not once visited his son's.

So Leonardo is quite literally having full on conversations, in the dojo for his brothers to hear, with a hallucination of his dead dad. He's coping this way. His family does nothing about this.

Tmnt 2012 has the worst Splinter. He ignored his son's and chose favorites. He told Leonardo to die (season 1 finale). He calls Mikey dumb and insights the others to do it too. He told Raph his anger makes him exactly like Shredder and never elaborates or teaches him how to better work through his issues. And he straight up calls Donnie useless.

None of that is even an exaggeration. Adding context just makes it worse.

Here's a list:

Do you know the turtles are the equivalent of helicopter raised homeschool boys? They've never stepped foot outside of the lair except at the start of ep 1.

They learn ALL of their lessons from old shows and cartoons. The show writers even sometimes use the cartoons to set up the theme of the episodes!

When Leonardo rescues Mikey he pats him on the head to comfort him.

Literally almost all of their ninja weapons have hidden weapons. I love it I wish I saw more of them using them.

Michelangelo is the family chef because somehow none of the rest have any life skills. Not even Splinter (explains so much).

They all have such cute shape language. I love bean pole Donnie, blocky buff Raph, perfect pear Leo, and round freckled Mikey.

They also now have unique eye colors. I love their eyes. Donnie with his big beautiful brown eyes (sometimes they look red). Raph with his acid green stare into your soul eyes, they look like they would glow like mako eyes in ff7. Mikey with bright blue eyes all big and round. And then Leo with the cunning dark blue eyes!

I just want to pinch their cheeks and kiss their foreheads and give them hugs.

Also, Leo is so affectionate to kids and his brothers??? My heart??? Couldn't take it??? He just randomly hugs them?? He had a tea party??? He wore a pink feather boa? The way he just immediately held baby Miwa??? Too good. Too good. He's such a good big bro.

Raph is also such a soft guy. Like yes he's a Butthead that beats up his brothers and takes every single violent urge out on Leo when he's even minorly inconvenienced but he does learn to do better. He helps Leo a lot and he even is there for the others a lot too.

Raphael also does art and seems to like fine arts.

Raph, like Leo, is a resident baby man. He loved tiny helpless creatures. He had a pet turtle he loved with his entire being and then later on adopted a space alien baby turtle that he also loved with his entire being.

I love Donnie in this, his cute little tooth gap, his gentle demeanor, the fact he'd rather be in the lab than training. I feel bad for him tho cause he clearly wants Splinter and Leo's approval with his inventions and efforts but very rarely gets it (Leo is the only one to really praise him and get what he does). He's also a good team player but he has so much stress and no confidence.

Donnie needs a big ol hug.

Mikey is so cute. But he is so weird. Why did they write girly pop collecting underwear. Why did they have him cannibalize a mutant pizza man? They do the most random things with Mikey. I like that he avidly tries cheering ppl up. He tries so hard for his bros. He's just a sweet little guy. I wish they did more with the baby bro.

Mikey should have kept his lightning powers.

They fight a lot but all the brothers love each other. I think they're just stressed and cooped up too much.

I like drama tho it's juicy when they argue.

I read on the wiki that Donnie is supposed to be canon OCD and Mikey canon ADHD and it makes so much sense in the show.

I really like all their voices. I miss Leo's first voice he was so dorky and sweet. The new voice is all sad and serious. Raph sounds perfect. I like Donnie's voice but instead of him always yelling why not have him do the low angry science rant because that's a good time. I like Mikey's voice he sounds like a high pitched beast boy.

But despite the occasionally baffling writing choices of the show I still like it. It's entertaining in the same way as a telenovela or kdrama. They literally have a plot where one of the turtles falls in love with his secret half sister. Something I've seen in telenovelas and kdramas.

2012 tmnt makes a great dogblooded drama.

I think the CGI art can get pretty bad at times but other times it looks great. The music is pretty good and I really like the voice cast. I actually totally see why so many people like this show but I definitely don't think it's the best one. From what I've seen thus far, I think the 2003 TMNT show might actually be a masterpiece. Better than Avatar the Last Airbender levels of masterpiece (not a competition just giving an example of another show I find monumental).

That's it, that's the rant, thanks for reading!

Btw if any one has any good 12 fic recs pls hand them over. I need 12 hurt comfort, or fem Leo, or transfem Leo, or anything introspective, or just anything with a fun plot. Pls I'm dying here send fics.

Thank you :)

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