@moonsun2010 for putting the concept of DE memes in my head with this post
22/2/23 edit
[image description based on army-of-bee-assassins' reblog: Fanart of Kim, Harry, and Jean, drawn to resemble the distracted boyfriend meme. Harry and Jean are walking together, but Harry is distracted and looking at Kim with an impressed expression. Jean is looking at Harry, offended. All caps text written next to Harry reads "Kim's cooler than you". Behind Kim is a glowing white circle, and behind Jean is a shadowy black rectangle. The image under the cut is the original version of the meme, a photograph of a man with his girlfriend being distracted by another woman. End ID.]
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broadway bmc critiques
this is a list of all my critiques of broadway bmc, in no particular order. this is not a post meant to hate those who are fans of Broadway bmc, because preference is subjective. I did my best to keep personal bias out of it, but some aspects are inextricable. please keep discussions civil. if you think critique will make you upset, I encourage you to skip this post.
- the writing is significantly watered down for the audience. while the original show was not a masterpiece of writing by any means, it only occasionally talks down to the audience. part of my interest in the original show was the open-ended characters. however, in the Broadway version, subtext is made into text, and that really hurts the show. most of the characters in tr had presumed depth, whereas bw wrote sync up: a song telling everyone exactly what was wrong with every character, rather than having the viewers observe it for themselves through dialogue and actions. tr already laid that foundation, it already had the character development. fans had already been analyzing the characters for years, and everyone pretty much got what they meant. bw felt, to me, like it was holding my hand through it and explaining to me every aspect of the characters.
- the writing of the new songs especially is. incredibly contrived. I've listened to the songs as I can bear (I do not like some of the voices in the songs, so I will admit to not listening to all of the songs, but I did make an attempt.) and the writing is significantly worse. while the tr songs weren't masterpieces, by any means, they were at least catchy and fun. the appeal of the bmc music is the earworm of it all, the way that it's fun and memorable. the bw versions new songs have not stuck in my head whatsoever, unlike the previous songs. loser geek whatever is another case of telling the audience rather than showing it: fans of tr already knew Jeremy was upset about being an outcast. we understood that. his decision at the end of upgrade was understandable to audiences, although usually not agreed with. an entire song with the writers literally physically telling the audience how he is feeling, in simple rhyme and a melody that doesn't stick out, wasn't necessary. a new song was intriguing, and could have fleshed out plot holes of the original show, but instead just tried shoving another square peg into a hole we had already been made aware of.
- fan pandering. this is an aspect of every media that has a large internet fan base, especially in the past ten years. while some aspects of the show may have been in the plans all along, the Broadway version feels like they were too engrossed in the fan culture. im a big proponent for creators being divorced from their fans, and the Broadway version is why. the addition of more moments implying a romantic connection between rich and michael at the end, with no discussion of character development, felt shoehorned in for the fans. Michael as a whole shifted closer to the fanon interpretation of him, rather than remaining the character from the original show, becoming more soft spoken and awkward.
- failure to add in diversity in a respectful way. (to preface this, I am a white person. if I say anything out of line in this section, I am more than willing to admit that, and would love to hear from the perspective of poc bmc fans, especially black fans.) a main critique of tr bmc in my opinion is the way it handled a lot of heavy topics, including diversity and the like. bw bmc made strides towards giving roles to non-white actors, which is always a good thing. however, the characters chosen for the diversity were made more stereotypical for being made into poc. jenna rolan became more of a stereotype of a talkative, phone obsessed black woman. Jenna is the less egregious example of this, as she has more depth. however, jake being black makes his character traits of being the child of money launderers, being violent towards others, being unhoused and physically harmed in the fire, not knowing how to "speak properly" at times and being a "player" seem more racially motivated. of course, none of these aspects of a character are bad, per se, but all combined into a character that is now black feels stereotypical.
- failure to fix some issues with tr. I am always willing to critique my own interests. while I have a preference towards tr, and a fixation on it, I will admit it has issues. notably, these include telling rather than showing (an issue that only got worse in bw), the treatment of female characters, and a variety of other issues. female characters in bw still have the same issues, as a whole. brooke is still the stereotypical blonde ditz. she does get a bit of development, but an opportunity for her to stand up for herself could have been needed in bw. christine is still little more than the love interest, and still ends up with the main character at the end, despite being meant to be a feminist, complete with patch on her jacket. the female characters rarely talk to each other about anything other than a man, or gossip, usually about men. none of them form solid friendships with no romantic ties with almost any of the male characters, either. the show costumes the characters in apparel that preaches feminism and writes a message about equality and being yourself, yet bars most character development from the female characters. this could have been rectified in bw, considering an entire song was added and scenes were rewritten, but was not.
I have other issues with the show, but those are more personal critiques with preferences, rather than in depth analysis of why I think the show is not as beloved by the fan base as a whole. those aren't going to be added here, because a lot of them don't lend any credence to my arguments, they're just personal opinions on character choices and actors.
if anything I've said in this post is incorrect, please let me know. I admit I'm not very well versed in the Broadway show, since I very much dislike it, so if any details are incorrect, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
also like. don't be a dick in the replies and tags please, that'd be nice. civil conversation and debate is okay, but attacking people for their interests is not.
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tag game: current top 5 fav songs
@sky-kenobye thanks so much for the tag!!
well, I can't just pick five songs, so. I'm only mildly trolling with this 😉
Atomic by Blondie
Tonight by David Bowie
Because the Night by Patti Smith
Tonight, Tonight by The Smashing Pumpkins
Tonight from West Side Story
the west side story was a wildcard hush I know. it's for the bit.
zero pressure tagging @heretolurkandnothingmore @usakostar @thequeerlibrarian @palfriendpatine66 @to-proudly-go if y'all want! I would love to steal your playlists hehehe (& sorry if you've already been tagged!)
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I did not say anything when that "Why do you assume Izzy is working class?" post was going around because a) I didn't have time, and b) I think OFMD pretty clearly establishes that lower / working class is the default for getting into "boat based criminal" as a career choice and anything other than that is weird (see Stede's crew of weirdos). So I think if you want to read Izzy as something other than working class in canon (presumably to take the wind out of that as a conflict between him and Stede), the burden of evidence is more on you than me.
But now I am seeing various posts about people deciding they support different headcanons on Izzy's backstory - which is fandom having fun as fandom does - only several are about him having a navy background instead? And like... people do realize that's not mutually exclusive from being poor, right?
Joining the navy because you were broke and had nowhere else to go was a big thing. You can't staff a military force exclusively with people of means because they also have the means to not want to die for you. Sure the upper ranks were likely restricted in numerous ways to people born to right family or with enough money / the right friends and mentors (like the Badmintons), but someone could do at least somewhat decently without any of that. The cost was just that it could really fucking suck. Plus this is a time when snatching up random people (often poor and young) and pressing them into service was a thing, meaning they could either adapt or desert.
Also success in the navy would not necessarily give Izzy a comfortable amount of wealth (private sailing wages were almost always higher, sometimes double or more, because the navy didn't like to pay). In fact, I think a navy background for a lower class Izzy makes a lot of sense and would have fostered resentment for the upper classes even more. Imagine living in miserable conditions making the best salary someone of your station could probably expect to make because you've worked hard and figured out a completely shit system, but you can't even dream of actually making this into a truly comfortable / successful career (only officers had careers) because you don't have the right name or the rich friends or the uncle who could have had the captain himself looking out for you since you were dropped on this ship at 11. All to die for the glory of a king who thinks you are a gutter rat.
Like there's a reason naval desertion was so common.
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