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wherethegravelsthin · 2 years
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waking up reading the news on politics on this truly godforsaken country is like. everyone else reporting on all the millions of dollars the trump douchebags are getting sued with fraud for and, like, on the war in Ukraine, and then I see a headline from Faux News and it's like "Joe Biden is sometimes mean to reporters!!" and I UGLY CACKLE
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chamerionwrites · 1 year
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And I'm trying to think of how you could solve the problems, right? In the interest of not just complaining about them. The most obvious answer is to have a very limited and broad set of categories that everyone agrees to warn for (I'm just spitballing here but like...sexual violence. state violence. harm to children. mental health topics. etc), or else explicitly chooses not to warn for, along with the explicit understanding that ONLY that limited set of topics will be warned for.
The problem with this is #1 you gotta get everyone to agree, #2 does it end up too broad to be actually useful (eg a general mental health warning is going to cover addiction, ED, suicide mentions, and a ton of other things), and #3 it's still an inherently arbitrary and subjective and ideological process. Your average copaganda is not going to tag for state violence when the Heroic Detectives drag a suspect into the back room and violently coerce a confession. Somebody who has PTSD from a car accident may still end up feeling invalidated if interpersonal violence is an agreed-upon tag but vehicle accidents aren't.
The other obvious way to improve content warnings is broad concensus that they are in fact nothing more than neutral, practical advisories of content, as opposed to moral labels about how some content is Dark and Bad and Triggering and other content is not. Which is what they are already supposed to be, but good luck actually finding that broad concensus anywhere.
Idk, it just feels like a concept that is only workable (except in very crude and potentially-hurtful ways) at a pretty small scale, among people who already know each other and feel comfortable asking for clarification. Which isn't reason to throw out the concept entirely, but it feels like an awareness of that inherent crudeness should be a foundational part of the concept and it just. Isn't
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clairelutra · 2 years
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my favorite thing about youtube themed music lists is that it'll be labelled like "indie music" and the top song will be p!atd, or it'll give me "christian music" and the fifth video will be an extremely horny vid about a catboy in leather, or "children's music" starting off with a song from a steampunk tragedy in which the singer kills her almost-lover and then calls the police to turn herself in
it happens every damn time, too. like just gotta add in that sprinkling of Spice.
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ars-matron · 1 year
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I really need to talk for a minute about this new mobile update and how much I as a legally blind person hate whatever the hell is going on with the photos and how it's making this app nearly impossible for me to use
I'm not sure the same thing is happening on the desktop version but for those who may not know in the app whenever you tap on a photo it used to just pop up and you could double tap to enlarge it and zoom in and scroll around and all was great.
A double tap now likes the photo and it must be pinched and pulled to zoom in and out. A mild annoyance, and nothing compared to the rest of the update. If you scroll up, which I do frequently when trying to navigate an enlarged photo, it will send you to ANOTHER photo based on the tags of the post.
That's right, a completely different photo!!! A feature no one asked for and no one wants!! This isn't facebook, or instagram, and maybe tiktok but I never had that so this is a guess. When I click on the photo I only want to see that photo (or in the case of multiple photos in a post I want to be able to easily scroll side to side for those). I do not want to be taken to another post!!! Also if you scroll too far to the left you are then sent to the profile of the person who reblogged the post. I do not know why. Who wants this feature? Is it a feature at all?
As someone who only taps on a photo because I cannot see it and I need to enlarge it, this is beyond a simple annoyance. I cannot navigate the photo like I need, there's a hair trigger on whether it sends you to a new post completely or if you are sent to the profile of the reblogger. Neither, again, are things I want. this leaves me having to back track a lot, re-zoom the photo as it reverts back to normal, and hope dearly that this time I can just read the damned text before it freaks out again.
I haven't seen anyone else talk about this outside of the tags, but really this is making the app unusable for me, and I'm sure for many others.
@staff I know you guys haven't cared about your disabled community much in the past (other photo updates that stopped allowing me to zoom into gifs is proof of that) but please don't make this app unusable for me. I would rather not have to leave.
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vilz · 3 months
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hello obviously there isn't anything i can really do to control this (unfortunately i deleted a bunch of posts BEFORE turning off reblogs on them) but i would prefer that people did not circulate my posts from this blog any more... i appreciate that people are kind to me about my art, but that is just my request i suppose. this blog is unprivated now, and if you'd like to see what is still up you can look at them here. my ask box is also open but i will not be making any art posts here from now on. here is a little preemptive faq:
why did you leave?
i didn't feel comfortable or happy posting on this blog any more!
do you still make art? do you post it somewhere else?
yes. but i've been pulling away from posting very much online, and the things i'm interested in drawing nowadays are generally more private, so i won't be directing anyone there or anything. i don't consider my new blog to be a continuation of this one.
i know your new blog!
that isn't really that surprising since i didn't honestly put great effort into concealing it or anything. we are probably not friends, so i hold no sway over you, but i would still prefer you did not share it or treat me as if i am still "vilz who posts fnaf art". i'm just a whatever blogger who blogs about whatever things. also to be frank i do not think my new blog has anything that interesting for people who followed for the kind of art i used to post here. this is not an invitation to say "it is interesting!".
we are friends!
if we have not been in direct, mutual conversations i highly doubt that. i'm sorry if that hurts anyone's feelings.
why did you delete all your self ship art?
people seem to enjoy my self ship art a lot, which is very flattering, but i don't want people to be looking at them any more. i realize that they are still rebloggable and are still circulating around, which is nobody's fault but my own, but i would prefer they were not shared any more. i can't really do anything about it and i also don't blame anyone for reblogging those posts since it's obviously not something they would know, but yeah.
i saw your art on pinterest!
i did not and do not consent to my works being put on pinterest. the art from "vilz" has not been uploaded by me to any other website besides tumblr. if someone is posting my art from here on a different platform, they are doing so without permission.
i saw you on magma!
i still join magma boards sometimes lol. it's a fun site.
what about your ocs?
they are still my ocs. sometimes i still draw them. currently, i do not have any plans of posting my oc art online ever again. i would prefer that people did not reblog the oc art i have posted to this blog.
what about your fics?
all of my fics are still up on ao3 anonymously. they are: small mercies obscura floriography baying of lambs scrape bitch, bastard, bullshit almost human a dream, recurring countdown i'm very flattered and happy that people have left kind comments on these. thank you very much for reading the words of an amateur and for sharing an experience with me.
are you going to finish your uncompleted fics?
i would really like to say yes, because i care a great deal about aspects of them, but it's looking pretty unlikely. i lost all my files (and my calmlywriter key !!! always save your emails and receipts, everyone!!!) and also it's hard to feel motivated about them now. i guess i will leave this up in the air just to soothe my own feelings but in reality the answer is Probably Not.
are you going to post new fics?
i might, because i've been in a writing mood lately, but please don't expect anything. if i do, they will be anonymous on ao3. i will not post about them here or on any other blog.
i really liked your posts and blog!
thank you. i'm glad that people could feel that way about the things i made and thought about stuff i care about. irregardless, i would prefer that people did not share my old posts from this blog.
i will do it anyway.
i cannot stop you, so there isn't really any point in pleading. i just thought i'd make a little info post for people who are inquiring. after this, there won't be any "posts" from me. if there are relevant questions or messages i might reply to them or just update this post.
thank you for reading and for enjoying my blog. goodbye !!!
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punkitt-is-here · 7 months
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Actually fucked up that you'll put people's vent posts (which didn't even mention you) in front of your thousands of followers but won't even bother to give a response to their good faith explanation of why they're uncomfortable with certain terms. If a post isn't rebloggable maybe it's for a reason??
Well if you'll notice I didn't clarify who it was for a reason, genius.
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wanderinginksplot · 1 year
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Reblogs are important
I know, that isn't a shock. But I wanted to share something that might help people who are new to Tumblr understand why everyone says that.
Tumblr used to have something called Reblog Graphs, and they're working on bringing them back. (You can find them in Tumblr Labs if you're interested.) Reblog Graphs are a great way of visualizing how posts spread through the site.
I chose two of my most popular posts for this experiment - one with a lot of likes and relatively fewer reblogs and one with a ratio that was closer to being even.
[For sake of clarity, the posts are part of the same fandom, but the like-heavy post is a fic while the reblog-heavy post is not. That does have an impact on what gets reblogged versus liked, but my point still stands.]
Here is the like-heavy post:
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The post was reblogged by people in my immediate sphere. Approximately three of the rebloggers' followers also reblogged and three more reblogged those reblogs.
Okay, now the reblog-heavy post:
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See the difference? My original post is in the bottom right and was reblogged by people in my immediate sphere. But more of their followers reblogged and their followers did the same. Infinitely more people saw this post, though it has 328 fewer notes than the like-heavy post.
In conclusion, if you want to see more from people (ESPECIALLY artists, writers, and others who create time-consuming content), you NEED to reblog. It makes a difference in how much meaningful interaction people get, and meaningful interaction (which is often interaction other than likes) is what sparks creativity.
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maochira · 1 month
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Let me get serious for a moment. I've been pushing away these thoughts for a long time because I stuck to the "I write and post on Tumblr for myself not for others!!!" mentality (which isn't bad in itself) and pushed away the part of me, that so desperately wishes for what I originally came here for: interaction, community, bonding and fun.
One of the reasons why I've been getting inactive is because the interactions on my posts have been going down so much. While I've never cared much for having the biggest numbers and never will care much about that, I just wish for meaningful interactions like nice tags in reblogs or whatever. But I only ever get reblogs without tags or the blog's reblog tag or fandom tag.
It just takes away the fun. I remember Spring-Summer 2023 I used to get so many fun reblog tags and I often went back to reading them,, but now there's just. None.
It defeats the entire meaning of why I became so active on Tumblr last year. I didn't have any friends who enjoyed the same stuff in the same way I do and then I was so happy to find people who enjoyed big brother!characters as well.
I no longer get fun tags about that and it's just. Meh. I feel on my own with it again. Sure, I have my qp partner who enjoys those headcanons as well and I can talk to them about that but it isn't the same as feeling a sense of community here on Tumblr like I did last year.
I admit, I've never been much of a reblogger either and I will reblog whatever I like with fun tags more from now on. Because if that's what I wish for to happen to me, I want to do the same for others.
Another thing that's always been a bother is how some people don't even have the decency of reading my request rules or pinned post. With each fem!reader or Itoshi brothers request I just get more frustrated because. What the fuck guys
Anyways. That's all I have to say right now. I will return to writing soon
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yoonia · 1 month
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https://www.tumblr.com/darkwitchgardener/746072202665967616/why-are-some-tumblr-writers-so-fucking-entitled
as a writer do you have an opinion on that? personally i think it’s rude but most people under that post seem to agree but i bet they never post anything
Okay, let's talk about this. I personally do think that this post is not only a weird take, but also rude and disrespectful. let me dissect every part of their nonsense and share my thoughts in this
why are some tumblr writers becoming so fucking entitled?💀 like why are basically forcing people to reblog your work?
Let's look at these tumblr writers, shall we?
Most of us here have real life outside of this site and outside of fanfics. Some of us are struggling to finish school, college, some are even on their way to achieve their PhD titles and yet they still spare their precious time to sit down and write fanfics for free between writing down their thesis and studying for exams. Some others have 9 to 5 jobs, or maybe freelance jobs that don't have a steady working hours (meaning they could have been working 36 hours nonstop without sleep, aka just like me), while also dealing with a spouse or children to take care of in between jobs and they are still writing fanfics for YOU to read for free (ps. when I say YOU here doesn't mean I'm talking to you, sweet anon. I'm directing this to the OG poster and whoever is agreeing with their take)
I feel like looking at this alone, if a writer wants to be entitled to have their work promoted through reblogs, to be circulated around by their readers, and to have any kind of feedback, then they are allowed to. After all that hard work put on a free content, the many hours we spent and the lack of sleep we all get to finish a fic, whether it's 100 words or 100k words, the least a reader could do is show a bit of support or any form of appreciation
(I'm not saying that readers should treat us writers like Gods and celebs either, or for us to be placed on top of a pedestal, by the way. This is an entirely different kind of writers entitlement that I'd love to talk about in a different post, but this isn't the kind of 'entitlement' that's being talked about here, so...)
Why do writers ASK readers to reblog our fics?
Because tumblr's reblog system is the main reason why we chose to post our fics on Tumblr in the first place. Reblogging helps our post to be circulated around, while keeping our copyright safe/still belong to us instead of being reposted by others, and each time anyone finds our fic in their dash, these new people will be directed back to us without any reblogger/reader having to get into any amount of trouble of having to link you back to us or credit us (like reposters on wattpad barely do)
Likes and kudos may help boost our fics if it had been in any other platforms, but the same can't apply here on Tumblr. Because liking a post only helps YOU, a reader, to keep the post that you like to be 'bookmarked' on your 'liked' list. Not anyone will be able to see those liked posts unless you make them public or if these other people would spend more time perusing your blog
I personally don't mind if readers can only leave a like, even if I can't tell if it means you're actually loving the story or you're only bookmarking it to read later. At least, a like on my circulating fic indicates that you've seen my work and that's already enough for me. And I can also tell you that I, as many other writers, will always appreciate deeply those who take their time to at least leave a comment whether it's on reply or an ask if they can't help reblog the fic. Which means, if you can't reblog it, we can't really force you to do it, but we WILL love it if anyone do it
Talking about "Only likes will be blocked"
I have never once seen any of my writer friends saying this on their posts. Do I agree with this? No, not really. But I also don't agree when the OG poster said something about a writer adding this on their disclaimer because the writer thinks they have 'a power over other people's blog'. Like...this is another weird take.
Because for me, the only power that this disclaimer gives a writer is the power to curate their own blog and their audience.
I may not agree with a writer putting said disclaimer (especially when it leads to people clumping them with a bunch of us who don't think this is necessary to do) but I can't fault them by adding this disclaimer on their blog. Maybe this writer has a problem with silent readers or is fed up with the imbalance between likes and reblogs that don't do much in helping boost their fics?
We'll never know what's the reason behind this disclaimer but, I'm going to turn this one back around to the OG poster and their supporters and say, who are YOU to think you have the power to decide how a writer should be running their blog?
I've seen other writers doing things that I don't agree with, but it's their business and it's not my problem how they're handling their blog and their audience. If you can't agree with one writer's way in how they are running their blog, then perhaps you can turn away and support other writers instead? some of us don't bite and aren't rude to others. some don't even care what you do, as long as you're not stealing their work. some others don't have enough energy to do either one of the above and are only here to post fics and have fun (like me lol)
just don't post your shit at this point lmaooo 😭😭
This one is the part that makes me smh the most. Let me ask you this, which one would hurt a fandom community more: when writers or content creators suddenly feel like they have enough of entitled readers and choose to stop posting, delete everything, leaving nothing behind for other people in the fandom community to enjoy, or a loss of followers?
Content enjoyers and readers come and go, we all know this, we've all experienced this, but not everyone is willing to spare their time to write or create content for other people to enjoy. Fandom community will keep growing. New audience will keep on coming. But if nobody is creating anything, what happens to the community? What is there to enjoy?
I agree with you, anon. I don't think this person knows anything about what kind of hard work goes behind a fic or a content. Because if they'd known even just a sliver of what goes behind the scene and how these contents they are enjoying here in this site came to be, they would have never said any crap on what a creator does in order to feel appreciated and supported by their audience
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muselin · 11 months
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Muse's ultimate, top-tier, legacy-level fic recs 2023
A love letter to the inspiring and hardworking kpop smut writers
I realised too late last year that I just don't do enough to promote those authors and fics who truly inspire me and become entirely embedded in my brain as favourites. I did a 2022 fic rec list (linked in my pinned post) but too late which is why it's so short, but I have sworn to myself that I will do better this year. Whenever I add a fic to this list, I will reblog the list as well as the fic.
For those who might not know, I throw around the term "legacy fic" a lot. Here is the definition of what that means to me:
A favourite fic of all time. One that is infinitely re-readable and rebloggable, one that stays with you even years after you've read it. One that you have tried or can see yourself trying to save or dig up or from the depths of the Internet years after reading it just to experience how it made you feel again.
Lastly before the epic list, all recommendations here are all smut. Some hard and some soft but they're all smut and not for kids. I am a smut author and reader and that is what my blog centers around, so this list was made with that in mind. Without further ado:
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Ten x f!reader - Play Date by @yutaholic (comments by me: f2l, AU, angst galooooore but it's all worth it)
Jaehyun x f!reader, Yuta x f!reader and finally Jaehyun x f!reader x Yuta - Home by @smileysuh (comments by me: post-college AU, the plot is spectacular. slow burn in a way as it is a very long fic, but also not slow at all.
Jeno x reader x Jaemin - Just So You Know by @sluttyten (comments by me: becoming a true poly throuple)
Just Between Us by @mrkis - Part 1 Yuta x reader x Mark, Part 2 Yuta x reader x Mark x Winwin, Part 3 planned but not yet posted by author. (comments by me: poly relationship)
Stray Kids
own me by @multifandomfantasies - Changbin x reader. (comments by me: i love anal 🥺)
making out with skz headcanon by @multifandomfantasies (comments by me: this one is rare in a list from me that isn't explicit smut but some of these are so heavily suggestive that they feel as if they're smut lol)
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aftokrator-official · 7 months
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Screenshotting because it's not rebloggable anymore (omitting OP's name for that reason) but this post - more specifically the replies to it - have been bothering me since I saw it a day or so ago and I finally decided to come back and engage lmao. (Source link from OP)
OP's totally right. OpenAI is a garbage company with garbage business practices but this is not the way to do this, people. I'm glad y'all have so much faith in the legal system here, but I don't, and if this goes through it's not going to harm the entities you want it to harm. believe me.
(i am not against AI when used ethically but i think that is a moot point here bc i do not believe OpenAI is an ethical developer of AI tech. anyway)
Here's the "rebuttal" that has been irritating me so much I couldn't leave it alone:
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THIS IS NOT REMOTELY TRUE.
First of all, unless I've missed something big, OpenAI has never disclosed the contents of the proprietary dataset they use to train their LLMs. We have no idea whether ChatGPT was trained on George RR Martin's books or not. Presumably, neither does George RR Martin. So all we have to go on is that ChatGPT "knows" characters and details from ASOIAF. Okay.
The problem is that ASOIAF is a massively popular series with some massively popular multimedia adaptations and spinoffs, and processing the text of the novels is far from the only way ChatGPT could have learned to produce those details.
Let's try a little experiment.
GPT-2 is an open source model released by OpenAI when they were just starting out. It works more or less the same way as ChatGPT and its ilk, just on a vastly smaller scale. It's much, much more limited, but the underlying algorithms work on the same concepts. So, what would GPT-2 give us if we ask it for a summary of a hypothetical GRRM novel?
I typed up the first paragraph here, and GPT-2 gave me the rest. (GPT-2 isn't a chatbot, but works more like autocomplete, so I didn't prompt it directly.)
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Okay, I have a feeling that plot doesn't make much sense as a prequel, but hey, it's AI (and an elderly one at that), it's not going to be particularly good at this left to its own devices. And look, it DID pull out a few details specific to ASOIAF - Jon Snow, the Night Watch, the Wildlings. So case closed, right? GPT-2 must have had ASOIAF novels in its training data too, just like its nasty little great-grandchild.
Except we know what was in GPT-2's dataset - it was trained on a 40GB corpus of data scraped from publicly-available web pages, specifically pages linked from Reddit. We don't have all the exact texts that were used, but we DO have the top 1000 domains contained in the dataset. All of which is a hell of a lot more information than we have on ChatGPT.
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What websites are ranked #75 and #160 in the list of 1000 domains? Why, it's Fanfiction.net and AO3. Hmm, I wonder where it learned about the very popular fictional characters from George RR Martin's novels! (Certainly not just from fanfiction, either - sites like IMDB and Wikia were ranked much higher in the list of sources, and entertainment news and fan wiki articles would also contain a lot of text about ASOIAF/GoT.)
You can certainly argue that using these websites as training data is also unethical or should be illegal - but that's not what's being argued in this lawsuit. As far as I know, ChatGPT has never spat out a perfect recreation (or even a vaguely paraphrased recreation) of any of GRRM's writing, so the only evidence for violation of his copyright in this case is the generation of what is essentially a machine-created derivative work. That is really, really worrying, even if you don't think the machine should be allowed to do that. I'm not a lawyer, just a fanfic writer and software developer, so I have no idea how legitimate the legal argument here is... but it's going down a road that is very dangerous for fandom, whether you believe it is or not.
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neechees · 5 months
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i've been looking through the site of that supposedly ai gen solidarity art of the dancers and i can't find anything referencing the artist using ai at all? i'm really not sure where that reblogger got that idea from. i also felt kind of weird about them saying that ai gen solidarity art would be just as bad as ai gen pro-genocide propaganda, i feel like one of those is a much bigger problem than the other. obviously it still sucks that the regalia is so incorrect though
Yeah like i agree that ai art is generally pretty shitty in a lot of ways, using it for genocide propaganda is like a whole other can of beans. I don't think that blogger necessarily meant to equate the two, but rather tried to point out that for some it would be seen as hypocrisy.
But yeah, I'll just briefly point out why I initially thought it was ai is that
The shawl kind of looks like it's merging with the skirt in some areas, or that the skirt itself is being used as a shawl (obvious for why this could be indication of ai, but if an artist actually drew it, I can see this being link an inking mistake or something a scanner couldn't pick up in their illustration)
Additionally, the shawl is like flopping and isn't pulled taut under the cape, which defeats the purpose of the cape. A fancy shawl dancer doesn't let the shawl droop under the cape and around their arms, and if you see this irl that's usually an indicator of a new dancer who doesn't know how to hold their shawl properly yet (or in this case, if it was ai generated, obviously that would be the fault of the generator)
Most war dancers do not wear a war bonnet as part of their regalia, most of the people who wear this were either a chief at one point or are currently, or is an elder & a buckskin dancer. (Again, this would be due to the racism because of the training in the ai if it was in fact ai)
But I'll just leave this here for people to come to their own conclusions
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The bots would be an actual concern if in the poll Starline was winning for a wide gap, which isn't happening. Let's do some math :D
Currently (At the moment of this ask), the poll is at 12,585 votes, with Starline winning by 54% and Scourge with %45
Turning that into actual numbers it would mean that 6,795 people have voted for Starline
Meanwhile, 5,663 have voted for Scourge
In the case of it being bots, Starline and Scourge would have a larger gap than just ~1000 people
Also, as Nintendoni has stated in the tags, they've been sharing the polls in Discord Server and so have I, as well as sharing it in my socials. I have 3k followers here on Tumblr and 18k of followers on Twitter, which could explain why the polls involving Starline has so much reach (and I'm pretty sure that my other Starline fans friends have been sharing the polls around as well)
Not only that, but with the passion that everyone is reblogging it to tell people to vote for Scourge, it also gives more visibility to the polls, giving more people the option to vote for any of their preferred characters regardless of what the OG reblogger is telling them to vote for. Polls with Starline tend to get pretty heated because people keep spreading them in order for people to vote for Starline's opponent, but reblogging it asking people to vote for the opponent doesn't guarantees that they're gonna vote for them, it only opens the possibility of more people voting with their own choice (Which can be Starline)
I hope this helps! o/
Thank you!! Honestly this helps a lot,, I was thinking the gap wasn't too high and usually its higher if they're there
I've been kinda nervous about the poll results/possibility of bots so this helped lol :]]
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a thing worth noting that with the examples the reblogger gave about "female obsessive characters" is that when it is a female character that's obsessed with boys or men it is almost always played as either a joke or meant to be seen as dangerous and creepy - usually both. All the "boycrazy" female characters in the example are meant to be seen as antagonists and/or comic relief, and we know the classic trope of the "maneater". Meanwhile when a male character is "girlcrazy" and behaves in a similar way as the girl characters more often than not he is meant to be seen as an underdog, an aspiration, a guy who is "maybe overdoing it a little" but who you are meant to root for anyways. Take for example the guy in Love, Actually whose only character trait is wanting to sleep with as many women as possible and whose sole goal in the movie was trying to get to US america bc "it is full of hot babes" and who you are clearly meant to root for when he immediately gets flirted with by not one but three "horny sex manic" women at the same time (all of whom he ends up sleeping with at the same time) as soon as he arrives there. The only times I can think of something like that happening to a "boycrazy" female character and being meant as a positive thing may be romance movies targeted at a female audience already, while male characters like that can be found in almost every movie or show there is
That is a good point - usually, the joke is that the woman is being "hysteric/insane/axe-crazy" like the character I think they mentioned from Fairly Odd Parents but not really someone you should sympathise with like we are expected to with the Big Bang Theory guys. Plus, there is also a lot of attractiveness-based dehumanisation happening there. (In fact, ironically, Barney Stinson even directly says this in an episode, describing women on an acceptable hot to crazy ratio)
Plus, I also think it's important to consider that a lot of the bias against women is expressed in a misogynistic, patriarchal framework, not an egalitarian one. Obviously, our point of view (I hope) would be to look at the action that was committed and evaluate the moral implication of that action, regardless of gender. To say: "This Action is bad and you shouldn't treat anyone like that, no matter what gender you are or they are". But 2000s sitcoms do NOT operate based on that standard of morality (hell no, that's kind of the issue here).
(in fact, a lot of media still doesn't do this, that's why movies constantly have those scenes about women slapping their boyfriends which make me want to rip my own hair out. Which is a good example of why this isn't simply a dynamic of 'women are allowed stuff and men aren't': It's a complex interplay of various aspects of heteronormative culture and patriarchal tradition. Most of these movies are made by men. And these men certainly are not some dedicated feminists, otherwise they wouldn't portray (and treat) women like they do. Hollywood certainly doesn't historically or culturally come from a feminist perspective of "abuse is abuse, regardless of gender" and they are certainly not those evul, conniving misandrist manhaters that the right likes to imagine going: "I think physical abuse is okay when a woman does it, so I will portray her slapping around men" (in fact, the right rarely takes offence to these things UNLESS it is to silence conversations about misogyny in media)
The truth is: A lot of writers who write these tropes simply do not consider it abuse. We talked about why they excuse it in men like Barney Stinson (usually by focusing on the men's side of things and using the female characters as props) but that's not how it works for female characters. In fact, the men getting slapped around ARE characters whose interior workings the movie or show addresses. And we are not supposed to find either more or less sympathetic for this. If these writers came from the perspective "this action is bad, regardless of who does it", why would they make light of their lead characters suffering physical domestic abuse? Why would they still treat the woman like a viable love-interest (and her action as justified when they would never portray it vice-versa?) Even make it a punchline? - The reason is that they come from a place where a) women are by nature ineffective creatures for better or worse and b) that a manly Man-Man(TM) cannot be hurt by a woman through the same action through which he might hurt a woman. Because of Man Strong and Woman Weak. A male character who genuinely reacts to being slapped is portrayed as being whiny and weak.)
And I think if we look at the issue in that context, we realise there is in fact (back to the original point of my post) a lot of predatory (or perceived as predatory) behaviour that female characters are criticised for by the narrative that don't really play a role for a male character - BUT: It's usually not about getting The Sex.
The patriarchal, heteronormative narrative is that a) "men always want sex" and b) sex is a resource that women possess and must be "convinced" to give to men (and the more Manly Points you have, the more easily women will drop that sex-loot for you.) - that, on top of the 'women are ineffective' theme is why there are so few shows genuinely judging male and female characters the same just based on their actions. That is the reason why a lot of the time when a (conventionally attractive! of course!) female character commits what is basically sexual assault against a male character, that man is portrayed as happy about it in the end (especially when it's about scenes where he loses his "virginity") - it's because the patriarchal reading of this situation, fucked up as it is, is "she gave him a gift". (She is only treated as predatory if he finds out that he doesn't consider her attractive later) This is also the reason why a lot of men feel more attacked by something like the Barbie movie than all those classic sitcom tropes of men being slapped by their girlfriends - because for them, one of those upholds their worldview of Man = Strong / Woman = Weak and one challenges it. And the one that challenges that view is not the one where a woman slaps a man).
A lot of the time, when movies and shows conceived in this patriarchal framework actually want to portray women as predatory, they (unsurprisingly) also conceive predatory behaviour (in women) in the same patriarchal framework - or rather, their patriarchal framework informs them of what kind of behaviour is predatory in women - something that is usually informed by real-life misogynistic stereotypes and narratives - like the femme fatale, the succubus, the maneater, the vampire).
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orange-orchard-system · 7 months
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This is a general observation on discourse (not about anything in particular, don't start accusing me of commenting on some drama or other), but I think people use "support" in a way that is... maybe too vague.
Like, when people use it for celebrities like JKR and the Harry Potter franchise, you know what they mean. If you're buying HP merch, you're financially supporting her. If you talk positively about HP (even if you don't "support" her in the form of personally approving of what she does), she sees that as support for her actions, and uses it as motivation to continue harming others. So, if someone engages with HP in this day and age (with the exception of critiques, which I'm decently sure cannot be misconstrued as support even by the bitch herself), it's understandable that people would see that as supporting JKR, especially with how knowledge of these actions counts as supporting her is spreading – it's not often something one can do unintentionally, not on Tumblr at least. In other spaces, one may be more likely to be out of the loop, but I've still seen information spread on other social medias and even irl about what exactly people mean by "supporting JKR", and what that entails.
This does not really translate to online discourse, with bloggers instead of celebrities. Unless a person is remarkably horrible, you're not going to know all their bad takes and behavior unless you dig for them. And most people don't dig for them! Why would they?! There's no obvious reason they should! A lot of people barely check DNIs!! Add to that the fact that when it comes to many strands of discourse, people will have tags or words filtered out, and will thus see only that someone is speaking on a topic, but not their actual opinions, and have no reason or desire to look at discussion on something they've purposefully tried to avoid just to find out what that someone is saying. So you've got a situation where people will accuse others of "supporting" someone they would have no good reason to know the bad takes or behavior of, and it's a miracle if the person making the accusation actually elaborates.
Moreover, "showing support" for bloggers isn't the same as famous people. Reblogging a post on one topic does not mean showing support for the OP's opinion on a separate topic (assuming the reblogger even knows of it, which can be very unlikely, given how posts can spread far from their blog of origin). And you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't think many bloggers assume support based on things like that. When you've seen people follow your blog even though they have a label or community you're part of in their DNI, you learn quick that engagement with your blog means shit all when it comes to people's opinions of you. I have no reason to see likes or reblogs as support for every word out of my mouth, only the specific ones that people are leaving notes on.
Circling back around to an earlier point I made, "support" in and of itself is a very vague concept. I think many folks using this term actually mean "approve", as in, "Do you approve of X's problematic actions?", but this hidden meaning makes such accusations even more ridiculous, especially when they're being leveled at a person just for a reblog or comment on another's post. Must you personally approve of everything a person has ever done in life to interact with them or treat them civilly? Must a person offer up for critique everything they have ever done in life so strangers can decide whether they deserve to be interacted with or treated civilly? This is a ridiculous demand to make of either side of an interaction, online or offline.
I know there's situations where this kind of questioning is warranted. I'm pretty sure a lot of users on here have found out they reblogged some innocuous looking post from someone they later found out was an asshole, and that put the reblogged post in a new light. But I don't see a lot of that with these accusations of "support". Instead, I often see people who others have simply decided are Bad, for one reason or another, and thus anyone who interacts with them must either denounce that interaction as soon as possible or be labeled as Bad too, even if they're not told why the OP is Bad. There's a difference between "hey, that person you reblogged from is an active asshole and bigot, just thought you might want to know" and "why do you personally approve of all these problematic actions that I will not elaborate on but assume you know about and support the continuation of (never mind if they were one-off occurrences or actually continued offenses) because you reblogged a post on the reblogging posts website. Answer quickly."
Even when you do get an explanation, it's often either a bunch of little things that aren't a big deal (which is like. Congrats, you found proof this person wasn't born perfect. Do you want a medal for your service?), or something blown out of proportion. Sometimes, yes, these little things piss me off enough to block the blog in question, but that's on a case-by-case basis based on my own feelings on the matter, not some kind of "three strikes you're out" policy. There's not a limit to how many times you can fuck up before people decide you no longer get to grow as a person. That's – and I'm not exaggerating, since I've seen similar concepts in actual books about this – something dystopian. "Yeah but they did A and B and C and D and –" and?? Are people never allowed to make mistakes or have unpopular opinions?? Do you think everything in the world must line up with how you personally feel it should?? Who the fuck are you to decide they've worded one post too many poorly and are thus A Bad Person??
And like. What's the point of it? What's the point of asking if someone "supports x blogger"? So you can label them as Bad By Association? So you can shame more and more people for interacting with people you've decided to other? That's called being an asshole at best and a bully (abuser, really, since bullying is also known as peer abuse) trying to make sure their victim has no positive relationships at worst. "I've decided I don't like this person and that they are Bad Now And Forever, so I'm going to tell everyone that they should never talk to this person ever, framing these actions in the worst possible light as I do so. And if they continue talking to this person and don't immediately accept my demands, they are also Bad Now And Forever, and all of them deserve to be othered, possibly even harassed depending on my feelings on the matter." That's fucking ridiculous.
All of this to say; accusing someone of "supporting x blogger", especially for something like reblogging a post from them, is ridiculous, and just reads as bait. You're not spreading awareness, you're not helping people keep themselves safe, you're just stirring up drama.
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it's really upsetting me so to get it off my chest i'm gonna confess that the positivity posts i saw yesterday really hurt. i didn't realise that was a thing in this fandom, and i wish it wasn't because those things inevitably leave people feeling left out and like their presence isn't worth anything to the fandom (plus readers, rebloggers and commenters are integral to fandom community but don't usually get a shoutout). i'm already struggling because of this horrible trend towards using threads in discord which renders most of the servers inaccessible to me, i feel extremely isolated and alone and unwanted, but i was doing okay muddling along churning out fic and a few silly polls and posts now and then until yesterday. the fic i posted today just made me feel so sad after i posted it. it was a lovely fic :( but like what is the point. if i'm worth so little i might as well not be here. why put the effort into making things if no one notices. i already feel so lonely it's like i'm being torn in two, posting things now and then brought me comfort but idk what i have now
#i'm in a deleting everything kinda mood#no one remembered me? oh. okay :(#fuckin hurts so much#i want to finish the johnny stuff but i feel so unbearably miserable now and i don't want to spend hogmanay like that#but i also can't bear to leave it unfinished#i wish i'd never scrolled my dash yesterday then i'd never have known about those posts#it brought me so much joy to write and share those fic#absolutely crushing to discover i don't inspire the same joy in the fandom#i was kinda impressed with having written so much i thought it was kinda cool#maybe it's just really fucking annoying idk#sorry just so lonely and upset and the places i find sanctuary are falling to pieces and i'd actually like to die now thanks#so much shit is going on irl you have no idea and i don't have a support network it's terrifying#nothing i do is worth anything#no one wants me#did u no my mother discarded all the photos that had me in them? kid me just. discarded. she took everyone else and threw me out#shit like that hurts i wish i had a new family or friends to chat to as a distraction when shit gets bad#i mean i get discord dm notifications (not server mentions) if anyone dms me but lol guess how often that happens#i get tumblr dm notifications it's been the only place i've talked to anyone for ages so shoutout to those two wonderful people#god i just. want to be included?#i tried#i failed#fuck.#maybe this is goodbye idk i had stuff to finish up/share#and a million more fics i wanted to write#i don't even know if i can face doing tomorrow's johnny fic#i wanted to do the 12 days of christmas too :(#but the fact now exists that i just... wasn't good enough for this fandom :'(#also i can't face the notifications tab#if it's not a Direct Message i won't see it#god there was SO MUCH i wanted to share! there were gifs i was gonna make to share the suffering and gift fic and silly posts
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