Obviously a complicated subject to navigate but the theme of "a person's worth" in the canto is a very interesting adaptation of the book and I'm enjoying it very much.
Heathcliff's attitude towards and understanding of his own upbringing shapes how he acts with the second generation- it's a sort of experiment for him, as he sometimes likes describing it in scientific terms. Talking about the boys with Nelly he draws this distinction between Hareton and lil Linton, that Hareton is an incredibly smart child and very aware of his own situation and degradation- especially as he meets other people his age, namely the younger Cathy, for whom he quickly develops feelings for, and love becomes yet another thing he cannot be allowed to participate in.
While in game it's someone else who ends up saying these lines, what they're actually referring to + what they represent in the book is actually shown through Hindley, the degradation, relegation to servant and denial of education as well as the condemnation that to Hindley is the most cruel and most important: losing the worth "necessary" to be loved.
In the end book!Hindley's efforts go through in making Heathcliff a horrible person just like him, though neither his nor game!Hindley's plan ever manages to actually deprive Heathcliff of his sister's love (though they certainly work in making him believe that!), but book!Hindley's plans are further defied by Heathcliff becoming rich and educated, and book!Heathcliff's plans go off the rails even further as Hareton is not only smart, but also manages to become a legitimately good person- which is where I think it's very clear how game!Hindley is inspired by Heathcliff's book self. This line describes game!Hindley's behavior towards Heathcliff and Catherine just as much as it describes book!Heathcliff's towards Hareton and young Cathy.
But in the end the point is there's this awareness of being hurting and turning a person into something they're not, something worse.
I think it's also very important to note those first rate qualities he talks about are very heavily referencing Hareton's ability to learn. While Heathcliff doesn't talk about this when referring to himself by this point it's obvious his own learning abilities are something he's quite proud of, all through the book he's adapting and changing to what he's faced with (from his first appearance as a child, where he doesn't even speak the same language as the family, but learns soon after, to his final plan for his own burial) and by comparing himself to Hareton he's recognizing those same qualities in him. And I feel like with what we've seen of game!Heathcliff ever since the first chapter, and what we see of him in the different identities and mirror worlds, this is gonna be quite important in part 3- all the abuse has never deprived him of his ability to improve, to learn new things, to trust in new people, just as it's never deprived him of the love he no longer feels worthy of. So! Hope we'll get to see you realize that soon, Heathcliff!!!
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Fujii Kaze - 「Hedemo Ne-Yo」
野菜ばっかの生活しょんのに
腹が立つことちょっくらあんのは
カルシウムちと不足しとんじゃわ
おどれ、おどれ、おどれ、おどれ
Even though I been living a vegetarian lifestyle
There's still something that's pissin' me off
Maybe I got calcium deficiency or something
God damn it, God damn it, God damn it, God damn it
慎ましやかに生きていきょんのに
いつもなんかが邪魔をするんじゃわ
こんな時ゃ人目もはばからずに
踊れ、踊れ、踊れ、踊れ
I'm just tryna live a modest life here
But there's always something gettin' in my way
Times like this you gotta stop caring what other people think
And just dance, dance, dance, dance
かと思いきや正反対
とても平穏な新世界
願うはここへずっと居たい もう限界
神様 力をちょうだい
あんたがいれば無問題
変わらぬものにしがみついてたい
But it turns out I had everything all backwards
This is such a peaceful world
All I wanna do is stay here forever. I can't take it anymore
God, please give me strength
As long as you're by my side, then everything will be okay
For once in my life I just want to grab hold of something that isn't going to change
あんたの軽ぃキック へでもねーよ
あんたの軽ぃパンチ へでもねーよ
あんたの軽ぃブロウ へでもねーよ
へでもねーよ バカじゃねーよ
あんたの軽ぃディス へでもね��よ
あんたの軽ぃヘイト へでもねーよ
あんたの軽ぃマウント へでもねーよ
へでもねーよ それでえーの?
Your weak-ass kick / I couldn't care less!
Your weak-ass punch / I couldn't care less!
Your weak-ass blow / I couldn't care less!
I couldn't care less. I ain't a damn fool.
Your weak-ass diss / I couldn't care less!
Your weak-ass hate / I couldn't care less!
Your weak-ass flex / I couldn't care less!
I couldn't care less. We done here?
帰れ うちへ帰れ
黙れ しばし黙れ
騒げ よそで騒げ
騒げ、騒げ、騒げ、騒げ
帰れ うちへ帰れ
黙れ しばし黙れ
騒げ よそで騒げ
騒げ、騒げ、騒げ、騒げ
Go home, just get outta here
Shut up, just shut up for a while
Go wild, but do it somewhere else
Go wild, go wild, go wild, go wild
Go home, just get outta here
Shut up, just shut up for a while
Go wild, but do it somewhere else
Go wild, go wild, go wild, go wild
かと思いきや急展開
自分次第で別世界
作り変えられるみたい 信じたい
神様 力をちょうだい
一人じゃ何も出来ない
確かなものにしがみついてたい
But then everything suddenly changed
This is a brand new world, everything's up to you
You can turn it into whatever you want. That's what it seems like. That's what I wanna believe in
God, please give me strength
I can't do anything on my own
For once in my life I just want to grab hold of something I’m sure of
あんたの軽ぃキック へでもねーよ
あんたの軽ぃパンチ へでもねーよ
あんたの軽ぃブロウ へでもねーよ
へでもねーよ バカじゃねーよ
あんたの軽ぃディス へでもねーよ
あんたの軽ぃヘイト へでもねーよ
あんたの軽ぃマウント へでもねーよ
へでもねーよ それでえーの?
Your weak-ass kick / I couldn't care less!
Your weak-ass punch / I couldn't care less!
Your weak-ass blow / I couldn't care less!
I couldn't care less. I ain't a damn fool.
Your weak-ass diss / I couldn't care less!
Your weak-ass hate / I couldn't care less!
Your weak-ass flex / I couldn't care less!
I couldn't care less. We done here?
あんたの軽ぃキック
あんたの軽ぃパンチ
あんたの軽ぃブロウ
あんたの軽ぃディス
あんたの軽ぃヘイト
あんたの軽ぃマウント
へでもねーよ
Your weak-ass kick
Your weak-ass punch
Your weak-ass blow
Your weak-ass diss
Your weak-ass hate
Your weak-ass flex
I couldn't care less
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really long quasi -spiritual post below cut
i just got this sharp, weird, specific ache in my chest seeing a cute little art about good days... wtf....i always get these weird flashes of this place that feels very familiar and bittersweet, but idk where it's from. and i think i just unlocked a different flash after like 6-8 months. i think what i'm seeing flashes of are images of the life i idealized for myself; from an amalgamation of daydreams and things i saw elsewhere that were beautiful and sweet to me.
idk what the images mean. i still don't know where they're from. one is just me standing in a snowy street in the middle of the night. there's huge trees lining each side of the road. i think maybe it's from a memory in Asheville as a child? on our way back home.
tonight what the new one was a flash from inside a car, that was driving through a historic/brick town district in the snow. the wipers were going to get the snow off the windshield. idk why, but i instantly felt so....sad. in the image i felt like things were calm for me. like there was a life there that i'd always dreamed of, where everything came easily and things were always beautiful. and then i snapped back to real life and felt so, so sad.
i'm not ever going to have these memories or flashes in time back to myself. i can hardly remember them anyway. but it feels like at some point, my life took a very sharp turn away from the things i had dreamt about. and that some ghost of me, in some alternate universe, might still be living life on that pathway. and they get to experience the version of my life that wasn't so traumatic. idk. as much as the images are so beautiful, and interesting. they hurt just as bad or worse when i realize that they're never going to come back for me.
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What do you think of Jamie Bell's version of Tintin in the 2011 movie? I personally find Jamie's delievery of his lines and the facial expressions he makes to be satisfying and attractive so I love it. However, I do recognize some differences in the way movie Tintin acts compared to the comic version.
In the comics Tintin has an easygoing personality and is rarely annoyed. He's very patient yknow. While the movie Tintin looks very done with everyone lol. He's patient too, except that it's the bitch-im-this-close-to-snap kind of patience lol. I don't have a problem with it, I think it adds great comedy, plus it's a realistic & relatable reaction considering how the guy is surrounded by airheaded/distracted characters.
They got his curiosity/obsession and quick-thinking and some other tiny personality details right though. The movie Tintin doesn't feel far away from the original one, it just seems less "childish" and more relatable? Movie Tintin feels 25+ years old to me, meanwhile comic Tintin feels 15-20 years old because of how happy/energetic and "unbothered" he seems with many problems? (Although I think Tintin being 25+ makes more sense even though I know Herge thinks of him as 16-17, smth like that)
A scene I can think of where Jamie's Tintin acted so much like the comic version was when the captain asked him how much he knew about the unicorn and he replied with "Not a lot, that's why I'm asking you" he looked & sounded so cute and very comic Tintin-ish imo.
All in all I love Jamie's Tintin and ngl watching him makes me feel butterflies lol. But I can't help compare him to the comic Tintin and be reminded of their differences. I wonder if that's because of the script or just Jamie's way of portraying him?
Anyways, I wanted to know what you think. Maybe you can write a comparison post about Jamie Bell and Jean Pierre's portrayals of Tintin? Not like a "this one is better" comparison, just an analysis. Yeah just a suggestion.
Thanks for reading this far and I'm excited to read your thoughts on this topic!
sorry it took a little while for me to answer this! it was hard to organize my thoughts – which, it turns out, i have a lot of, so i’m putting this under a cut.
overall, i liked his performance, yeah! i think he’s a fine tintin. i think they did some things really well with him, like his curiosity and drive, as you mentioned, as well as his confidence and self-assuredness (the scene that comes to mind for these is the “we’ve got one bullet” scene). i know jamie bell is a dancer, too, which helped him nail the physical aspects of playing the character.
as for the differences, i think the main ones you listed – his impatience, annoyance, and less easygoing nature – just have to do with the stories they chose to adapt. in crab with the golden claws, tintin is indeed often shown losing his patience with the captain; in unicorn he gets cranky when barnaby and sakharine don’t stop pestering him, and when the woman hogs the phone booth in the rain. it wouldn’t be my personal go-to for a tintin portrayal to have these traits so forefront, but it provides more depth to his character/gives him more of a personality and makes him more well-rounded.
bc like. tintin in the comics is kind of bland LOL. which i'm pretty sure was mostly by design. we see him develop and gain more of a personality as the series progresses but for a lot of it he is kind of left blank. so the script writers had to fill in these gaps and round out the character in order to make the sort of protagonist that could carry a feature-length film. and i think they did a decent job! generally i think movie-tintin’s traits make sense and feel like a natural progression of the comics character. he is still recognizable as tintin, but just an older and more grown-up version of his comics counterpart, like you said.
that being said . there is just something about this version of tintin that is just a little bit off. and i cannot put my finger on it. this section will be more incoherent because i'm really struggling to put it into words lol. but he just doesn’t Feel like tintin to me... like. i think he’s a little too serious tbh . i wish they had let him get a little playful with it, but tonally i dont think it would have worked. and i think there’s just a lightness and a warmth that’s missing from this portrayal. not that i wanted him to be happy all the time or whatever, but he feels closed off in a way that tintin never has to me, so it feels just a little off to see him portrayed like this. like there’s a difference between closed off and reserved, and i think movie-tintin is closed off, whereas comics-tintin is just reserved. i don’t know if that makes any sense. at this point i'm just going off vibe rather than anything concrete that i can cite lol im sorry this is so nebulous
AND HONESTLY i think for me it also has to do with the fact that they made him do that posh english accent 😭😭😭 it just feels so wrong to me. like maybe i'm just too used to hearing him with a canadian accent (shoutout to the 90s cartoon) but. yeah. and i know that’s not jamie bell’s natural accent either, so it feels doubly weird
all this to say yes, i do like jamie bell as tintin and i think he did a wonderful job, and i think that this version of tintin makes sense, even though he doesn’t quite fully Feel like tintin to me
i don’t know that i'll write a comparison post, just because it seems kind of daunting and because i'm not super confident in my grasp of tintin as a character. which i know is ironic to say, given that i just wrote a bunch about tintin as a character, but this post is largely just opinion, and for something as “official” as a comparison analysis i’d definitely have to go back and reread/rewatch to be able to say anything with any confidence. it's certainly something i'd like to do at some point! i have a lot of thoughts about jean-pierre’s tintin as well and would love any excuse to talk about him. (spoiler alert: i think jean-pierre feels like tintin way more)
but anyway, thanks for your question!
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