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#then again so have the dany stans
thesilverlady Β· 1 year
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Bitches are simping for Aemond of all people then few seconds later begin writing 1000 Dany anti meta πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€
I mean, people can simp for whoever they want but I've never seen a single valid reason in any anti Dany metΓ  πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™€οΈ
it's definitely hypocritical, so I get your point. The "reasons" people hate Dany are the same reasons they stan characters like the green
I think generally lots of characters have suffered from the latest seasons and writing of Game of Thrones (Dany, Sansa, Jon, Arya, Tyrion etc). They were so butchered by the end that now lots of people not only choose to think the show version is what their book selves are supposed to be about but they also make them into a sort of category to fit other characters, like the ones from hotd.
For instance, young Rhaneyra is "Arya type", young Alicent is "Sansa type", Aemond is "older Daenerys type" and I can't even blame much of the fandom for this because even the people behind the show had this type of categories when designing the characters for the adaptation.
So if the people who are meant to bring characters from the pages to our screen don't even understand them, how can a casual viewer do it?
I get angry sometimes over some really delulu takes i see daily but I gotta remember that a) sadly lots of people don't seperated books from shows
b) lots of people aren't the same level of nerd as me to actually care for themes and that's okay
c) more often than not its more beneficial to scroll past a ridiculous take/reply/comment than to engage with it
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hotxcheeto Β· 4 months
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Hi, can u write a domestic, fluffy, sweet headcannon about things ellie would do with the reader after coming back from work? I would love that<3
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Ellie loves her job, she does
She just hates working
She'd rather be at home, with you, her game controller and whatever takeout you both picked for that night
And so when the end of the day rolls around, she gets in her car and drives home
Sometimes she'll surprise you with food if she knows you're having a rough day, or sometimes she'll just get it to get it
Then she's showing up with a bag in hand and a tired face and you know she's ready to eat and sleep
On regular days though, she loves coming home and walking in to you making dinner for the both of you
The smell of coming from the kitchen mixed with your humming?
She's down baddddddd
Astronomically
To the moon and back
She always did want to be an astronaut
But she'll walk in, and you'll know because she throws her shit more than half the time before picking it back up with a sigh
Then she wanders over to you despite definitely needing a shower but you never mind because she'll wrap her arms around your waist and hide her face in your neck
But the moment she cements this, it's impossible to get her off
Like I mean impossible
Sometimes she'll ramble at this stage of the night because she has a lot to say about her day and she doesn't want to forget before she tells you
So she'll just unload, all of it, while you're stirring soup or something
Oh and you love her but this girl can YAP
certified yapper
But you don't mind cause you haven't seen her all day so you just let her go
Then when she decides she's had enough, she'll try to cuddle on you again while you're cooking and you have to make her go and shower
It's sweet until you realize she's sweaty so off you make her go
You can hear her mumbling to herself as she walks away if you listen
More often than not she showers hella fast and is back out in the same koala position as before if the food isn't done
But she doesn't talk anymore
Silence besides your humming or your talking
And she very much prefers it that way because she loves the sound of your voice
And when you both sit down to eat she sits across from you when she's in a chatty mood and next to you when she's that tired she can barely keep her head up
She has those days when she stays up way too late despite you yelling at her
Take her phone, she'll be mad for five minutes then be fine after
the og ipad kid
Anyhow... after y'all eat, depending on how tired you both are, it's couch time
That's when you lay there and contemplate life together <3
It's TV show and movie timeeeeeeee
She's a game of thrones nerd
hated the ending too
Dany stan fr fr
Cause she's hot
Y'all are stuck to that couch until bed time
She cuddles bad, ur practically glued together for the entirety of the night
When it's skincare time she watches you
Same if you wear make up, she stares
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It's just cause she finds you mesmerizing, until you make her wash her face too and put 48938490238 more products after
Then she pouts as you put them on her cause she wants to go to bed
But she gets happier once you're laying down and she's wrapped so far around you, you're sure she could be a contortionist if she decided to quit her day job
But she's a sweetie <3
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la-pheacienne Β· 26 days
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Oh I love Dany! The show butchered her character for real. Don't listen to these stupid youtubers/dudebros/show fans, Dany was never meant to go mad. Dany is our girl! Don't listen to her stans either, they are delusional, trust me when i say this cause I am neutral and I truly get *the themes*. Oh yeah she's never becoming queen, the iron throne is a symbol of how absolute power corrupts anyone, and by anyone I specifically mean her entire house and only her house. Oh yeah this only concerns the Targaryens and the iron throne and not any other position of feudal power that I desire for my faves, I don't have faves since I'm neutral. Dany will probably sacrifice herself to save Westeros, that's so sad :( It's important to keep reblogging Dany fanart/official art/major quotes though because feminism and because I have an asoiaf blog and, again, I *love* Dany *so much*.
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abrideofdrogons Β· 5 months
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the discourse for today is "dany stans" are making up that daenerys is magical
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when literally
daenerys is azor ahai. ( When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone. The bleeding star has come and gone, and Dragonstone is the place of smoke and salt. ) daenerys hatches dragons for the first time in centuries & this rebirth is quickly followed shierak qiya, the red comet.
george said it himself: "The whole point of the scene in A Game of Thrones where Daenerys hatches the dragons is that she makes the magic up as she goes along; she is someone who really might do anything."
she spends the first novel having dragon dreams that result in the resurrection of dragons
the warlocks in the house of the undying want to cannibalize her & her magic to become stronger themselves
this entire passage btw:
"Half a year gone, that man could scarcely wake fire from dragonglass. He had some small skill with powders and wildfire, sufficient to entrance a crowd while his cutpurses did their work. He could walk across hot coals and make burning roses bloom in the air, but he could no more aspire to climb the fiery ladder than a common fisherman could hope to catch a kraken in his nets." Dany looked uneasily at where the ladder had stood. Even the smoke was gone now, and the crowd was breaking up, each man going about his business. In a moment more than a few would find their purses flat and empty. "And now?" "And now his powers grow, Khaleesi. And you are the cause of it." "Me?" She laughed. "How could that be?" The woman stepped closer and lay two fingers on Dany's wrist. "You are the Mother of Dragons, are you not?" (ACOK, Daenerys III)
ALSO claiming daenerys is male gaze is so whack when you know damn well she's a genre breaking character
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certified-ni-ki-lover Β· 4 months
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Winter Wear
ENHYPEN Ni-ki Oneshot
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While rushing out of your house since you were late for school you forgot to check the weather or grab something to keep you warm, so when someone offers you theirs you gladly accept it without realizing who gave it.
Word count: 2517
Warnings: Cursing, mentions of food, kissing (let me know if there's anything else)
This is purely a work of fiction & I do not have anything against the idols used as "bullies" in here (I only use idols from groups I stan btw so I love all the idols in this)
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You were rushing around in your kitchen with a waffle stuffed in your mouth & a brush stuck in your hair. You were trying to get your backpack together & brush your hair at the same time. You had fallen asleep while studying last night & forgot to set your alarm & since your parents were out of town for two weeks no one was there to wake you up.
Quickly swallowing your food & gulping down a glass of orange juice, you finished brushing your hair, grabbed your backpack & the first pair of shoes you could get & rushed out the door.
Only once you were outside did you realize that it was snowing & you didn't have your winter coat or a scarf or anything & to make matters worse the shoes you grabbed were a pair of heels. It was too late to go back up to your rooms grab your winter wear & find a more suitable pair of shoes so you just sighed & decided to bear with it for today. At least they went with your outfit you thought trying to make this situation positive, & thank goodness these were block heels & not the stilettoes you wear during your nights out & at least they weren't too tall. But it still made walking in the snow a struggle & the fact that you were practically FREEZING didn't help either.
Suddenly you felt more warm. You realize someone had placed their coat on you. When you looked behind you saw an incredibly tall boy, perhaps your age or a year older. His hair was dyed to a dirty blonde & he had a mole under his eye but you couldn't see the rest of his face clearly since it was covered by his scarf. "Take it," was all he said before he continued walking. You thanked the boy, but you were doubtful if he even heard your cause of his earmuffs.
On the rest of the walk to school, you couldn't help but think that the boy who lent you his jacket seemed familiar. You couldn't make out his voice either since it was muffled by his scarf but you just hoped you would run into him again.
Once you reached school you walked towards your locker. You noticed a few girls staring at you & whispering but you didn't think much of it & just headed to class. Since you were late you couldn't walk to school with your best friend, Danielle, like how you usually do.
"Y/NIEEEE" She yelled when you walked in hugging you. She thought you wouldn't be coming today so she was glad when she saw you. "Hey Dani, sorry I couldn't walk with you today, woke up late," you explained hugging her back. "No worries, I was worried though. Thought you were sick or something," she explained & you just smiled at her. You & Danielle have been best friends since you were seven years old. You loved to death & so did she. "Girl, what's with your shoes?" she asked laughing slightly. You just rolled your eyes & replied, "Ugh, don't even get me started. I had to rush this morning & these were the first pair I had grabbed plus I had also forgotten my winter coat when it's literally freezing outside," you grumbled but before Dani could ask more questions the teacher walked in & you two decided to talk more during lunch.
Now, stuffing your faces full of ramen you, explained to Danielle what had happened to you that morning. "Woahhh! You're literally so lucky! A super cute tall boy gave you his jacket!" she gushed "It's just like a K-drama omg!" you just laughed at her.
But just then you were interrupted. "Why the fuck were you wearing Ni-ki's jacket this morning?" someone yelled slamming her hand on your lunch table. It was Leeseo. She was one of the popular girls in your school. She was known for her pretty looks &also for the fact that her mom owned a share of your school. This meant she could do whatever she wanted since no one in the school could do anything about it & her parents were too busy working to care, which she didn't mind either.
The boy she was talking about was Nishimura Riki or Ni-ki which is what he preferred to be called by. He's the star player of your school's basketball team. Everyone on the basketball team was super popular & incredibly good-looking, including Ni-ki. He was the tallest on the team. Girls would leave flowers, chocolates & letters for him after every game but he would never mind them. It wasn't a rare sight to see a girl with flowers in her hands looking heartbroken from confessing to Ni-ki. He never accepted anyone's confession. You would be lying if you said you didn't have a crush on the said boy. How could you not? But from the scenes you witness you grew a fear of ever confessing. Leeseo's family was friends with the Nishimura family. Even though Ni-ki barely even speaks to her as well, Leeseo is the only girl who had the closest "connection" with Ni-ki. Of course like the other girls Leeseo had a crush on him as well, but she had more confidence in being able to be with him than the others. But just to be safe Leeseo would try & keep as many girls as she can from confessing to him.
Leeseo never liked you. You don't know what you did to her but all you can remember is that at any given opportunity she would try & make your life as miserable as possible. Things only got worse when she found out about your crush on Ni-ki. She would always get so infuriated about any little interactions you had with him.
But right now you didn't even know what she was talking about. That is until you remembered about the boy from that morning who gave you his jacket. That's why he was so familiar to you. Cause it was Ni-ki. That also explained the stares & whispers you got when you entered the building. "Um he gave it to me..?" you replied. You could see the anger rise on Leeseo's face & the confusion on her friends. "He never shares his clothes. Why would ever give his jacket to you?" she asked glaring at you. "I don't know. Why don't you ask him since you're so "close" to him," you replied back. "Fine!" she replied back before storming out of the cafeteria.
Danielle looked at you with wide eyes, "Ni-ki gave you his jacket???" she asked. "It seems like it," you replied, your cheeks slightly pink. But you knew Leeseo would pull a stunt now & you weren't ready for whatever she was planning.
***Next day***
You woke up at the right time today & were dressed more appropriately. Unfortunately, you couldn't walk with Danielle again today since she had some work to do at her journalism club so she headed to school earlier.
When you entered the school everyone was staring at you & whispering again. "She's so lucky!" "I'm literally so envious of her!" You were confused by all this & went to find Danielle, just then you saw her running over to you. "GIRL YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED" she yelled pulling you into her office in the journalism club. You were confused by what was going on so you asked her to which she just handed you her phone telling you to watch the video that was playing.
The video was probably taken yesterday after school cause it showed Ni-ki's basketball team practicing. A few seconds later you saw Leeseo approaching him. For some odd reason, you felt your heart beat faster. "Ni-ki!" she cutely yelled in the video, to which he turned. "I heard that you gave your jacket to Y/N L/N," she said. "Yea," he replied shortly continuing to warm up with one of his teammates, Lee Heeseung. "Um why?" she asked. "I saw her rushing this morning. Seems like she forgot it & was cold," he said shrugging. "But you never share your clothes. You don't even lend me your jacket," she said pouting, emphasizing the "me". You cringed wanting to stop watching, "Bear with it & just keep watching, trust me," Danielle spoke. "Cause she's my girlfriend," Ni-ki spoke shortly walking away from Leeseo to grab his bag & head out. "WHAT?? Wait Ni-ki where are you going?? Come back! Do your parents know about this?? You know they've always wanted us to be together right...." Leeseo's screaming trailed off as she followed Ni-ki & the video ended. "WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!" you screamed. "GIRL YOU'VE GOT TO ASK NI-KI ABOUT THIS!" Dani shouted as the bell rang. Since you had class now you decided to wait after school to ask him about this during his practice.
***Time Skip***
The final bell had rung, indicating that school was over for the day. Your classmates were packing their things & talking to their friends about their weekend plans. You packed your stuff & thought to head to the journalism room first so you could go to the basketball court with Danielle. There was no way you were going to talk to Ni-ki alone.
Arms linked with Dani, you both headed to the basketball court. You saw that practice had already begun. The players were doing warm-ups while the couch went over a few things with the assistant couch. You spotted a few girls sitting on the bleachers. Some of them were a few player's girlfriends while the others were fans who had crushes on the rest. You found Leeseo & her group of friends sitting in the front row. She was obviously here for Ni-ki. You looked away when she spotted you. You made your way over to the drink cooler to wait so you could talk to Ni-ki during their break.
The coach blew the whistle indicating that it was their break time to rest & get refreshed for the rest of the practice. You noticed one of his teammates, Jake, another player on the team & one of Ni-ki's close friends, nudge Ni-ki whispering something to him while looking at you. Ni-ki took a glance at your direction & whispered something back to him. You saw Ni-ki approaching you so you took out the energy drink you got for him. Ni-ki took a seat next to you on the bench, "Here," you spoke softly offering him the drink, but before he could accept it, Leeseo came over, "Hi Ni-ki! You played so well! Here I got you a drink," she said giving him the drink. "Thanks but Y/N already got a drink for me," he said grabbing the drink you got for him & taking a sip. You could see Leeseo's expression shifting into annoyance, but she plastered on a fake smile. "Uh Ni-ki I wanted to talk to you about something," you started, "Sure," he replied, "You can tell me when we walk home together," he said before you could ask what he meant by that, the coach called him over since practice had begun again. So you waited for him again this time with your heart beating out of your chest.
"Let's go," NI-ki said picking up his bag. "NI-KI!" Leeso shouted, you could see Ni-ki roll his eyes at her, IT'S FRIDAY! WE HAVE FAMILY DINNER TOGETHER! WHY DON'T WE-" you couldn't finish hearing what she wanted to say cause Ni-ki had grabbed your hand & started walking out. "Hey! It looks like you have something important to do," you said. "I never go for those dinners. My parents have learned that by now," he said. "Oh," you replied, Leeseo had always bragged to you how every weekend Ni-ki & her would spend time together & how interested he was in her, looks like she had been lying this whole time. The realization gave you butterflies for some reason.
"So what did you want to talk about?" he asked. "Uh well there's been a rumor going around that you gave me your jacket that day cause I'm your girlfriend," you said. "Yea," he responded casually, "Yea?" you asked confused, "Is there anything wrong with that?" he asked "I know you like me Y/N," he said. You looked at him with wide eyes, your heart hammering out of your chest. "What?" you asked him, "I had heard Leeseo's confronting you about it," he replied. "So that whole video was like some joke or something you planned?" you asked looking down trying to hold in your tears. "Y/N," he said stopping & turning towards you. He softly held your chin making you look up at him, he held your face in his hands, his thumb softly caressing your cheek, "I don't know how you've never noticed the way I look at you. I've liked you for such a long time. I didn't know how to tell you cause I wasn't sure if you also liked me. But when I heard you & Leeseo talking about it, I found you did like me. Now I just had to figure out how to tell you, but I never found the perfect opportunity. That's why I gave you my jacket the other day, you're the only person I wouldn't mind wearing my clothes & When Leeseo asked me about it, I figured that was the perfect opportunity, not only would I get to confess to you but it would also keep any of the other guys from trying to ask you out. Plus I also figured if she knew I liked you back, she would stop giving you a hard time about your feelings & would also leave me alone." he confessed looking into your eyes. You didn't know what to say. You were left speechless at his confession. So instead you tiptoed & placed a soft kiss on his lips. You felt his arms fall around your waist while you put your arms around his neck. You could feel him kiss you back with the same amount of love & passion you had for him, if not even more. A few seconds later you broke the kiss, "I love you Riki," you said looking up at him. "I love you too Y/N," he said, placing a sweet kiss on your forehead before hugging you. "Oh yeah here," you said breaking the hug & handing him a bag. He looked at you confused, "What is this," he asked taking the bag, "It's your jacket. I figured you would want it back," you said smiling at him. "Keep it. I don't want my girlfriend to freeze to death," he said. "Oh so I'm your girlfriend now?" you asked him, teasing him. "Obviously," he said rolling his eyes. "If you thought I was just going to leave you like that then you thought wrong sweetheart," he said pulling you into another sweet kiss.
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a/n: This was left incomplete in my drafts for SO LONG😭😭Hope you guys liked it!
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decadentbutterflies Β· 15 days
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No, it's about the brain rot of Sansa stans calling Dany evil and a colonizer etc. Or erasing/diminishing Sansa bullying Arya when we bring that up that she's not exactly kind, only when she wants to be.
Acting like Sansa is a perfect fit for a queen instead because she's kind and "everyone she touches becomes kinder" while she slowly poisons a child, her own cousin (she was even warned about how it hurts the boy) and then going "me and father have more important things to worry about", who's mother was murdered by the man she covers. Being classist...
You could argue that she does it out of fear (which I agree with except the feasts and classist behavior ofc). She is not "kind" like an average person would be. She isn't evil, but calling her kind and then acting like Dany isn't and calling Daenerys a tyrant is mind blowing. Dany personally feeds refugees and genuinely does her best to help people, while Miss Sansa throws feasts while the common folk is starving.
And the argument is... She killed slavers.. Oh noo, how dare she.
Also Sansa's bullying is another reason why people don't see her as kind (validly), but again people love to erase that and diminish it.
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Or do even THIS lmao. I just knew there's going to be something "Arya is mean, Arya is bad" in the comments.
Yes, because Arya bullied her so much, like throwing peach on her after Sansa was her classist self (this was Arya's reply to Sansa saying "once she's the queen Arya will have to bow down to her" btw. she ain't becoming a follower like some fans wish for her to be).
She was bullied so much that she has trauma that she doesn't even believe when others tell her she's pretty. Sansa felt sooo out of place in Winterfell and lonely (not like she had any friends that followed with the bullying..) :'((
But thankfully we have Jon who's going to save her and marry her because he just LOVES the "waiting for someone to save her" type of girl! He can't stop talking about that kind of woman lmao.
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Ofc. A Jonsa and Catelyn fan account lmao.
I can't make this sht up. That show should've never been made, I'm sorry, but it brought so many morons combining the show into the books and completely changed how fanon sees many of the characters.
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pessimisticpigeonsworld Β· 3 months
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What's with this obsession of wanting the series to end with Aegon III and Jaehaera getting married? "It's the most neutral ending" Don't tell me that nonsense, nobody wants a neutral ending, they think jaehaera is a more important ending than aegon iii reuniting with his brother, the only green that I can see having relevance in the end is Alicent, she being depressed and paranoid and the only one left of the greens, always thinking about how all that left her with nothing until she died
TG stans are fundamentally contradictory given how almost all of them are Targaryen antis. They condemn and hate all Targaryens (especially Dany), yet stan the worst group of Targaryens and want their line to continue to their most hated Targaryen in ASOIAF (again, Dany).
They go on and on about how Rhaegar and Dany are evil and deserved to die, but are rooting for their favs to be their ancestors. So basically they want their favs' bloodline to continue but also be wiped out. The only time they want the line to continue is if they're jonsa shippers who want R+L=J.
Because TG stans want to win the war against Rhaenyra so badly, they behave as nonsensical hypocrites (even more than they already do). Jaehaera surviving and marrying Aegon III is the only way the greens could still "win". The only reason it's seen as a neutral outcome is because of people painting the Blacks and Greens as equally wrong. If Rhaenyra and Aegon are both in the wrong and dead, their child joining the houses seems like a good idea. Except there's a clear right side. GRRM killing off all Alicent's bloodline is karmic retribution for her actions and those of the rest of the Greens.
It's a tragedy that Jaehaera died, but it's a tragedy of her family's own making. If Alicent hadn't plotted to undermine Rhaenyra since Aegon's birth, her family would still be alive and well. If Aegon had bent the knee when Rhaenyra offered him mercy, he, his siblings, and his children would be safe and sound. If Aemond hadn't killed Luke, Rhaenyra and her faction would have been more merciful. GRRM has set a precedent of wiping out the bloodlines of traitors and usurpers, the Greens are no different. Anyone who rejects this fact is missing the point of the Dance.
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fromtheseventhhell Β· 9 months
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It's a fact that Dany's story is riddled with violence against women of color and that she's the perpetrator in several cases, so mentioning her race is actually necessary (Sansa being white has no bearing on her story because again, she never hurt or killed any woc). Besides burning Mirri, r*ping Irri and torturing the wineseller's daughter, she also slaps Eroeh in the face. She looted one city, destroyed another to gain an army of slaves, took over another one for a trial run at ruling and plans to abandon it to invade and destroy a continent that she (and the thousands of warlords she's bringing with her) has never been to to demand fealty from people who don't want her as their queen. Why don't you at least acknowledge that Dany is written as a villain and that your hatred of Sansa is, by comparison, irrational?
It's ironic that the biggest criticism of how George writes characters of color is that he uses them in service of white characters' arcs and that's exactly what you've decided to do in my inbox. Nothing about liking these characters, wanting to see more of their stories, or wanting better for them. Nothing about wanting to start a conversation about the racism in George's writing. Nope. Just you using these characters of color and their suffering, which you supposedly care about, as props because you feel a "pure", white character is being unfairly hated. I have to laugh. The only "hate" I've given to Sansa is disliking her annoying stans and pointing out how she's written in the books but apparently, that's enough to have you clutching your pearls.
And the thing about racism is that, for Dany to be capable of being racist, it would mean that race HAS to be a factor in their society. That would mean that Sansa, as a white woman, would subsequently benefit from her white identity. Which is why I found that so funny from the first ask you sent. You can't just decide that race is only a factor in a single character's story. I get it though, you haven't actually thought any of this through because your only motivation is to put down Dany and prop up Sansa. This is how I know you don't care at all about racism and you're just copying talking points you've heard instead of thinking for yourself.
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thebeesareback Β· 10 months
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There's something which bothers me about asoiaf.
The night's watch, we've heard, was established after the long night, about 8000 years ago. Jon is (supposedly) the 998th Lord Commander, which approximately tracks.
We're led to believe that the vows have not changed at all during this time. I ask you to find the oldest book you can. For me, in the UK, that's probably Shakespeare, who was writing late 1500s/early 1600s. I have an English degree and i struggle with some of the language. Words fall in and out of fashion, understanding of concepts like, hm, marriage, change over time (Measure for Measure, I'm looking at you), and invasions will impact linguistics.
Therefore, a vow written by Shakespeare 500-ish years ago would have totally different connotations to a contemporary person vs a modern one, and someone with little/no formal education (like most of the nights' watch) probably wouldn't understand most of it. And that's 500 years! The nights' watch vow is 8000 years old! If someone handed me a peice of writing from 8000 years ago, which is technically the stone age, i wouldn't even know if I was holding it the right way up. Those vows aren't just dated: they're complete jibberish.
To add to this: Westerosi history generally seems pretty strange. We're supposed to understand that the maesters carefully destroyed lots of information about dragons, which helped contribute to their extinction. Yet, somehow, Asha Greyjoy knows about Kingsmoots, when the last one happened 5000 years ago? Again, a UK based example: stonehenge is about 5000 years old. Nobody knows what it's for. There are theories, there are people who worship there, but mostly it's a bunch of cool rocks. So it doesn't make sense that all of the information about dragons is lost over about 200 years from the Dance to Dany asking her handmaidens for info, but Asha, who comes from a culture where learning and reading aren't exactly celebrated, suddenly has access to all of this ancient information.
We do, of course, love, respect and stan one (1) Rodrick the Reader for his contributions to Asha's education and understanding of history, but one person isn't enough to keep history/culture/customs alive for 5000 years.
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Others MC after gaining knowledge of the loop without memories of the past routes but keeping the new ones if the loop restarts. : Having a panic attack about existence *did anything matter? Did my chooses have no weight? What about the other versions of me? I'm the original or just another countless version lost in time? *
Trying to found a way out of the loop.
My shithead Mc : haha nice, *make a list of things to do, some are just things that never have time to do other are either are dangerous or inmoral*
Having the time of their life.
The list (NSFW included)
Beat the shit out the Stans with a bat
Go to parties with Angie
Try skating with Dani
Take Elena to a party with angie/ beat the shit out of all the annoying patrons.
Try Cinder unholy creation of drink
Tell alcina that she is an humongous bitch with the maternal abilities of a coconut.
Burn alcina secret artsy room. (Blame someone else if possible if not laugh at her face and square up)
Kidnap Bela and Cassandra so they and Dani could have a sister day.(Threaten to burn down the theater and the student council)
Tell Cassandra how a bitch she have been with her sisters.
Make Bela ditch her student council responsibilities. (kidnapping is in the table)
Try every single club
Steal a car
Steal all the technology that you always wanted.
Vandalism in all the walls of the school
Be gentleman with Cassandra and court her. Show support and help her to sleep more.
Kill the Stans the fuckers deserve it
Tell alcina that good parents keep their children away from dangerous cults, you stupid bitch. Burn alcina art room again
Help Bela so she can rest more.
Help Bela get back her heart what the fuck is going on here?
Hang out with Daniela and tell her that she is amazing and deserving of love.
Help Daniela break her curse, again what the fuck is wrong with alcina.
Pass time with alcina to know what the fuck is wrong with her.
WHAT THE FUCK ALCINA.
Kidnap that annoying pink head bitch and Burn alcina art room, with her inside.
Give some gifts to Daniela as apology for fucking her Mom in the past loop.
Hang out more with Angie to recover sanity.
Flirt with Angie aunt.
Beat the shit out of the annoying patrons of the flower shop.
Discover the killer. Okay, what the fuck is going on this school.
Flirt with donna, she kill you to protect Angie so try to forgive her.
Date donna, she is cute. Do your best to make her happy. Forgive her
Fuck her brains out, make her your precious doll. Now you can forgive her.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE HEADMISTRESS DOING
Investigate Miranda
Be patient
Tear up her clothes, throw all the shit in her desk and Fuck her hard on the motherfucking desk until she is crying and then fuck her more. Run away from the scene
High Five mia in your way out.
Hide and hang out with Mia. Dumb ways to die so many dumb ways to die.
Avoid the headmistress.
See if you can convince (NSFW) :
Bela of fucking in the study council room. Treat her like a horny whore hiding behind the miss perfect mask. Praise her too. Make her cockwarm while she is working, edging her and the fuck her until she is overstimulated.
Donna of fucking In the front of her flower shop. Put her above the counter were anyone could see her come like a dirty whore, under the counter eating her out while she try to tell the clients that whatever they want will be deliver it tomorrow.
Run away from the school. TO THE HELL WITH EVERYTHING
Use Miranda as a fuck doll/ cumslut because she is the cause of everything. She wants you? Fine let's see if she can handle it.
Make know to all the student body that their headmistress is just a whore. Shame her, forget all about the rules for bdsm, forget about your morals. Be the worst version of you every time she triggers the loop.
Go to cat cafΓ©.
Convince Daniela of burning down her mother art room. It will be cathartic. Angie can tag in too.
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Harlowchella
First Lady of Private Garden Instagram AU
Requested by: the treacherous twin @harlowsbby πŸ’–
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y/ninsta: guess where we're on our way to? πŸ‘€
saweetie: the matching bracelets have me MELTING 😭
y/ninsta: saweetie hubby got them for all five of us
jackharlow: two of my favorite girls. daddy loves you both
y/ninsta: jackharlow lmao shut up
jackharlow: y/ninsta Ivy, Axel, and Autumn weren't the only ones calling me daddy last night, don't act brand new smh
quiiso: here they asses fucking go
urbanwyatt: quiiso same shit, different day lmao
y/ninsta: jackharlow can you be serious for once in your life please? smh
jackharlow: I can literally count on one hand how many times I've been serious, when I asked you to be my girlfriend, when I asked you to marry me, when we got married, and when you made me a father. other than that... nope.
y/ninsta: yall see what I have to deal with? smh
jessicakelce: and I can vouch for that, jackharlow been wild since high school and following y/ninsta around like a lost puppy
jackharlow: jessicakelce and?!? yall not going to get on me for simping over my wife
druski2funny: where yall goin?!?
y/ninsta: I'm going going back back to Cali Cali
allthingsy/n: aww to support her mans as he performs at coachella! we love a supportive couple
jackandy/naremyparents: can't wait until y/n starts performing again, we miss her!
jackharlowsource: jackandy/naremyparents agreed! and the only time we got a little performance was her diss track to dani and drama and that was months ago
allthingsy/n: oh I forgot about those lying ass bitches smh like she really cut them both off and doesn't mention anything about them which I get because I can imagine that it still hurts. her and dani were inseparable
jackandy/naremyparents: but moving on! still can't believe that their someone else's parents other than mine 😭😭😭
jackharlowsource: I wonder if Jack will bring her out on stage, he needs to do it for the Harlow stans because we are DESPERATE to see her
jackharlow: πŸ‘€
jackharlowsource: what those eyes mean sir? you planning something? SPILL IT!
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jessicakelce: she said I could say something about it so here goes! here supporting our baby at her first performance since becoming a momma to three beautiful angels. we are so so proud of you and can't wait to see you kill it on stage tomorrow πŸ’•
jackandy/naremyparents: THEY'RE BOTH PERFORMING!?!?!?
allthingsy/n: I'm so excited that I'M ABOUT TO THROW UP
jackharlowsource: IT'S HAPPENING! THIS IS NOT A FUCKING DRILL! I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A FUCKING DRILL! JACK AND Y/N ARE BOTH PERFORMING AT COACHELLA!!!!
y/ninsta: thank yall for being here with me, just like in high school some things never change. been the realest since day one and I'm so happy we're reunited again.
blancahood: y/ninsta wouldn't have it any other way, you know we always got your back, but for now... SHOTS!
y/ninsta: blancahood jackharlow has the babies soooo pass them my way!
jackharlow: yall better not get my wife drunk
jessicakelce: jackharlow you worry too much! we'll bring her back in one piece! we know better because we cannot leave you in charge with three babies by yourself so I know privategarden is there at the hotel helping your ass. you would fall apart without your wife
jackharlow: jessicakelce I'm tired of you always calling me out
urbanwyatt: of course we're here and jackharlow is trying not to lose his mind without her. I'm getting flashbacks from when she went on that girls trip
yungskylark: urbanwyatt DO NOT BRING UP DARK TIMES
neelamthadhani: yeah because I thought we were all going to die
quiiso: and the fact that neelamthadhani bought jack a plane ticket and was like please go see your wife so you can stop getting on everyone else's nerves 😭
shloob_: oh shit and remember when y/ninsta spotted him at the beach house?!? jack was like 'hey babe! funny running into you here'
2forwoyne: lmaooo her ass was PISSED
normani: we were all thoroughly confused lmao and y/n was just looking at him in disbelief before he proceeded to take her upstairs and fuck her brains out.
theestallion: typical Harlow behavior
jackharlow: that was in the past and yall need to let it go smh
2forwoyne: jackharlow but how you're acting tonight isn't because once again we feel like we're about to die and she's only 20 minutes away
y/ninsta: aww do my babies miss me?
jackharlow: YES I MISS YOU, HURRY UP AND COME BACK
y/ninsta: jackharlow not you, the triplets!
jackharlow: y/ninsta YOUR BIG BABY MISSES YOU AND I NEED SOME ATTENTION
jessicakelce: jackharlow YOU GET HER ALL THE TIME, CAN'T WE HAVE HER FOR ONE DAMN NIGHT?!
jackharlow: jessicakelce no.
jessicakelce: πŸ™„
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y/ninsta: yall ready for Harlowchella? Because me and hubby jackharlow ready to step on yall fucking necks
jackharlowsource: WE'RE READY SIS! I GOT MY SNACKS AND I'M READY TO SHAKE MY ASS!
jackharlow: my favorite position to have you in to fuck that throat of yours
y/ninsta: JACKMAN, PLEASE 😭
jackharlow: y/ninsta what I say?!? wait until both of our sets are over so you can get this work
urbanwyatt: so that means I'll be on babysitting duty again tonight smh
jackharlow: urbanwyatt for just a few hours and then we'll come and get them
y/ninsta: jackharlow I literally cannot take your fucking ass anywhere because you don't know how to act
2forwoyne: I second this
urbanwyatt: he hasn't known how to act around her since we were fourteen
claybornharlow: y/ninsta little baby has arrived
jackharlow: claybornharlow good, we got another baby sitter so I can hit the back of her throat for a longer period of time
sza: jack please lmaoooooo
y/ninsta: claybornharlow hiiii little baby, Autumn was missing you. she saw your picture and all she kept trying to say for the rest of the day was your name. it came out as Tay, but I obviously knew what she meant lol
claybornharlow: y/ninsta my little babies miss me jackharlow how your kids love me more than you tho?
jackharlow: claybornharlow imma kick your ass but who is currently cuddled up on me? AUTUMN. she not thinking about you
claybornharlow: jackharlow once she sees me, you'll be an afterthought
jackharlow: y/ninsta get him before I do
y/ninsta: jackharlow claybornharlow will you two behave?!
druski2funny: this man doesn't let up but ummm y/ninsta I can take you off his hands any time
y/ninsta: druski2funny aren't yall life partners? at least you were convinced that you two were
jackharlow: no me and druski broke up, jaysontatum is my life partner now
druski2funny: jackharlow but you were the one out here cheating!
jackharlow: druski2funny with who?! my actual wife who has my last name? make it make sense
lilnasx: druski2funny give it up already
dualipa: come sit on my face please
jackharlow: dualipa only face she's sitting on is mine, you know better
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jackharlow: Harlowchella Part 1 with yours truly
y/ninsta: absolutely killed it baby, so proud of you! and so were our babies! they saw you and couldn't stop smiling. love you smush.
jackandy/naremyparents: WHO CUTTING ONIONS UP IN HERE?! 😭
saweetie: okay little brother, I see you
jackharlow: y/ninsta love you more than you know
y/ninsta: jackharlow but not more than I love you
2forwoyne: OKAY ENOUGH, WE GET IT. YALL LOVE EACH OTHER.
y/ninsta: 2fo is just mad because I didn't get a chance to make him a pound cake last weekend
urbanwyatt: y/ninsta because jackharlow was too busy eating your cakes
urbandjack24: lmaoooo AYE YO!
y/ninsta: urbanwyatt and what about it?!
jackharlow: Bon Appetit 😏😏😏😏
softtcurse: y/ninsta you better watch it before he impregnates you again lmao
y/ninsta: softtcurse HE BETTER NOT
jackharlow: y/ninsta imma put 5 in you this time so we can get to 8 and then we're done
y/ninsta: jackharlow WHO THE FUCK IS CARRYING FIVE AT ONE TIME? I CARRIED THREE AND THAT WAS ENOUGH. GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT. (but if you get someone else pregnant imma hurt you)
jackharlow: you'll look so gorgeous though and you know I'm not getting anyone else pregnant but you
y/ninsta: jackharlow and won't be able to walk. absolutely not. I could barely get around with three. I'm good.
jackharlow: y/ninsta fine, how about twins this time?
y/ninsta: jackharlow NO MULTIPLES
normani: you said that last time and ended up having triplets, make it make sense
jackandy/naremyparents: she was a baddie pregnant though, not that she wasn't already but pregnant y/n will forever have me in a chokehold
dualipa: make me a step mommy again
y/ninsta: WHY THE HELL DO YALL WANT ME TO HAVE ANOTHER BIG HEADED CHILD THAT LOOKS LIKE JACK AGAIN?! I JUST HAD THREE! ARE YALL HOES NOT ENTERTAINED ENOUGH?
jackharlow: outta pocket wifey and my head is not that big, I'll show you a big head
jessicakelce: y/ninsta but Ivy looks like you, Axel is a mix of both of you and Autumn looks like Jack but acts like you and I am definitely down to be an aunt again
blancahood: BRB planning the baby shower
y/ninsta: NO NO AND NO
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y/ninsta: full circle moment and I just have to say how proud that I am of myself. the little girl from the southside of atlanta made it to coachella. I never thought in a milliion years that this would be my life, but here we are. fine ass husband, three adorable babies, the greatest parents on the face of this earth, and best friends who always want to see me win. to my beautiful fans, thank you, thank you, thank you, now let me finish before I start to cry πŸ’–
Your girl has now officially returned
saweetie: not your ass having me up here getting teary eyed
saweetie: I love you so very much and it was only right for me to give you your flowers. I am always going to be here for you and I always want to see you win. my best friend is the SHIT!
y/ninsta: saweetie and here come the tears 😭😭😭
jackharlow: my baby girl, killing it like always. proud to be your husband.
y/ninsta: jackharlow proud to be your wife.
2forwoyne: our queen has OFFICIALLY returned!
urbandjack24: TRIPLETS WHERE?!? YALL SEE THAT BODY?!
jackandy/naremyparents: SHE FUCKING ATE AND LEFT NO GOT DAMN CRUMBS YASSSS MRS. HARLOW FUCK.IT.UPPPPPP!!
lilnasx: my baby did that!
allthingsy/n: HARLOWCHELLA!!!!!!!!!!!
druski2funny: soooo you gonna twerk on me like that?
jackharlow: druski2funny you just had to say something outta pocket. cut the fucking shit now.
claybornharlow: so proud of you!!
jessicakelce: AHHHHHHH YOU DID THAT MAMAS!
saweetie: and for people who keep asking why some of her closest friends call her Latto or Big Latto is because she always talked about winning at everything in her life and her angel number is 777 which she has a tattoo of. it's short for lottery and she definitely hits the jackpot with everything that she does. like I still remember when we first met and me and jackharlow trying to convince her to release her music, and now look at her!
urbanwyatt: go best friend!! yall better put some respect on her name
2forwoyne: watched her prepare for this for awhile and still get blown away every time I see her perform
yungskylark: and to think that she only wanted to write music, and now look
y/ninsta: PG, my day ones, I love yall bad and yall can always make my heart go boom. so blessed to have yall in my life and don't want to have it any other way. all jokes aside, thank you for being amazing friends to me and always helping to see what's important in life and protecting me.
shloob_: damn, y/n is usually always the one to cry, but now it might be me
blancahood: you kill it every damn time
y/ninsta: saweetie I love you so much bestie and thank you for always being there for me even if I get on your nerves sometimes lmaoooo
saweetie: y/ninsta never leaving your side. we in this shit for life 😘
urbanwyatt: you know we're going to protect you until the end of time
quiiso: we have no hesitations to beat someone's ass over you lmao
y/ninsta: quiiso and that goes both ways lol
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jackharlow: so proud of my wife. you killed it baby πŸ₯Ί
She was so nervous and didn't think she was ready, but I assured her that she was. I could tell how much she missed performing and I know how much it meant to her. so what better way for the queen to come back then on the coachella stage?
bottom line: my wife a baddie
Harlowchella was a success
y/ninsta: POOKIE, I LOVE YOU 😭
jackharlow: y/ninsta love you more than anything mamas
jackandy/naremyparents: we love a supportive husband. we stan, we stan, WE STAN
urbanwyatt: and she pushed herself harder than ever to prepare for it and it definitely paid off
jackharlow: she made everyone in the damn house go vegan for three months smh
2forwoyne: oh. what I was eating was vegan?
quiiso: 2forwoyne we know your dumbass don't care what it is as long as she makes it for you
saweetie: and jackharlow was calling me complaining about how he needed for me to sneak real food into the house because he was hungry smh and urbanwyatt too lmao
blancahood: saweetie LMAOOOO my mans was going through it!
jackharlow: saweetie your best friend was starving me smh
y/ninsta: jackharlow I was not! weren't you the one to say eating pussy every day keeps the doctor away? YOU GOT FED PLENTY
sza: well shit
normani: his dumbass would say some shit like that
jackharlow: I plead the fifth
dualipa: feed me next, please. but on a serious note, I'm very proud of you and all that you've accomplished in such a short time.
jackharlow: dualipa she's not feeding you a got damn thing smh
urbanwyatt: yeahhhh vegan isn't for me and I learned the hard way with being her test taster for everything smh
2forwoyne: urbanwyatt then stop being so damn greedy smh
jackharlow: 2forwoyne I KNOW FOR A FACT YOUR ASS ISN'T TALKING SMH you worse than my damn kids. you hear a package opening and your ass SPRINTS to the kitchen on some usain bolt type shit.
yungskylark: I was about to say the same thing lmao
2forwoyne: no 2fo slander will be tolerated smh
y/ninsta: jackharlow look now. I cannot have your big ass head on my chest along with two of your spawns while you hold the other one. YALL ARE HEAVY.
jackharlow: y/ninsta look they wanted you so I had to come through for my babies and we are NOT heavy!
normani: jackharlow I know you've seen how big your head is in the mirror, stop playing
jackharlow: normani CUT IT OUT
y/ninsta: jackharlow I know otherwise, but I vote you to be the one to wake them up so we can get ready for our flight later... at 3 am.
jackharlow: y/ninsta WHAT BY MYSELF?
y/ninsta: jackharlow urbanwyatt will help you. I carried them for 33 weeks, it's literally the least you can do. I'm sleepy.
urbanwyatt: now why am I in it?
jessicakelce: lmaoooo the definition of get somebody else to do it
jackharlow: y/ninsta imma get you back for that, just watchπŸ™„
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neos-schlond-poofa Β· 1 month
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rl donna beneviento hcs
because @scuba-gragas (your acc is NOT linking for some reason) freaked out over one of my edit captions and im like. why not share more sad stuff about donna! and also silly stuff in here too.
AND NO IM NOT PUTTING "ATTEMPTED BEFORE" IN HERE THIS IS NOT SOME SAD SOME RANDOM
repeating this from the edit but due to her tendency to remember numerous timelines, donna has even more of a SEVERE fear of being abandoned by mc and lacks a lot of self confidence in the relationship. she remembers mc being happy with the others, what if they did a better job than her? what if mc goes to them? or perhaps, what if the loop occurs and mc goes to someone else, and donna sees them just act happier? was she easily replacable?
however, sometimes donna DOES express her relationship anxieties and mc always does help out; its not all torment for donna, dont worry. as time goes on she always tries to be more open with mc about her feelings
okay back to sad. i imagine this happens to everyone but in their own way, but donna is a sleep hugger. so when she wakes up the day after the loop, shes hugging a pillow instead of mc and she just sits there for a bit. sometimes, she doesnt really get it, other times, she instantly knows what happened. she hates the feeling of waking up that morning and thinking she has someone in her arms, only to have an empty spot in her bed.
really good at claw machines. when angie was younger, she loved going to the arcade, and so donna mastered the art of claw machines to get angie a bunch of prizes (and sometimes herself).
invested in noise cancelling headphones / earbuds once she got with mc. she wears them a lot everywhere and even went to her first concert with them, it helps her not be overstimulated.
she hates herself for this, but part of her prays that mc stays with miranda after she has to wipe belas memories. she cant stand the thought of hurting her niece again in another loop.
would probably get a sims addiction, but specifically making sims.
plays relaxing video game soundtracks in the store (dani, angie, and mc often update the playlists)
she sells those fake flowers on april fools that shoot water at peoples faces.
loves to watch operas and ballets.
im struggling with wording this but like. when donna realizes the loop has occured she always just takes a bunch of time to prepare herself for whatever is going to happen, but ESPECIALLY knowing she has to murder someone for angie again. shes basically doomed to do this forever until mc gets with miranda; and i KNOW angie sometimes isnt a doll but. lets forget about that!! i just imagine shes always a doll anyways, it makes more sense that way, and either way, a loop where angie is fully human is just a temporary break for one of donna's many problems.
ethel cain stan
hates hospital shows for MANY reasons. she doesnt like seeing the hospitals first of all, she doesnt like seeing when the people die, and she hates the medical inconsistencies.
in loops where bela and mc have a family (sigh), she can't help but literally try to keep her distance. they won't have their family for long, and she cant bear to tell them that (although bela is most definitely aware) or even get attached to their baby, she doesn't want to lose someone close again (although bela does not catch onto this; she tries to get donna involved as opposed to alcina)
owns a typewriter
constantly has a tab of solitaire open on her laptop.
theres a picture of markiplier hidden in her room and she doesnt know it. angie hid it there and has been waiting for donna to find it. thing is? she hid it before the loop started. so it is permanently there for every loop.
always has really cutesy and simplistic halloween costumes she wears in her flower shop for the holiday. her favorite costume is a bee.
loves build-a-bear. it obviously takes her some time to get ready to go there (she often plans out their least busy times), but she loves to make her own plushes for her collection and buy them new clothes. eventually takes mc there for a date and they adopt a bear together.
but outside of that? she really hates getting new ones there during the loops. she gets really attached to them and she hates knowing they're only there for a short time.
kanoodle master.
hates the smell of nail polish
great hugger, even if she doesn't give them out that often.
owns a bunch of retro game consoles and likes to collect them, although she doesn't get much time to play them.
hates the bee movie; angie loves it
while mc obviously does open her eyes, donna still struggles with the concept of even trying to get better because she knows its all just going to loop. yes, she will work on things and they will improve, but certain things will revert back to normal after the loop anyways.
once tried to dance in the rain for fun and ended up getting a cold instead.
alright i think thats it... i might share more in the future but i tried to balance this with silly and sad.
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rise-my-angel Β· 2 months
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Really weird topic to bring up but have you seen the Robb/Daenerys shippers. They are hard core convince that Robb would become her loyal dog and give her the seven kingdoms. Like are we talking about the same Robb that fought for the North independence. I just find it kinda funny. Just wanted to know your opinion on this ship.
Robb and - thE DISRESPECT???? HELLO??
First of all, none of these people care about any character that isn't Dany. They literally just see Robb as loyal arm candy as much as they see Jon as her arm candy. Its pathetic. They aren't characters to them they are only accesories to Dany.
Second, DANY WOULD HAVE LINED ROBB UP RIGHT BESIDE THE TARLYS TO BURN ALIVE.
The show didnt go into detail, but part of why Dany I suspect, didn't take Jons claim as King in the North seriously is unironically because hes a bastard. Danys claim for the Iron Throne is depending on her highborn bloodright. Targaryeans already see themselves as superior people, and thus she definitely did not see Jon as a threat as much because to her, hes a bastard with a false claim to a Northern Kingdom she intends to force into subjegation anyways.
Robb though? Robb is a massive threat. Robb is Eddard Starks eldest trueborn son. He was the first King in the North since before her family invaded Westeros. He fought for Northern Independence tooth and nail. Robb would never bend the knee, its why he didn't have any treaty with Stannis despite their families close ties to each other. Stannis wanted Robb to bend the knee and so he refused. Robb would never give up Northern Independence. Never. Robb is also a charming man who is smart, a good battle commander and very well liked by the people and worshipped by his men. And he is a trueborn Stark.
Robb is a huge threat to her. Now so is Jon, but again, Dany does not consider Jons claim to be valid. Its why she doesn't mention Robb to him, shes trying to frame it like Jon has no right to rule. She could never say that to Robb, because he is the King the North the people chose after 300 years of forced subjegation.
Dany would absoutely consider Robb Stark her enemy, and Robb would hate her for the exact same reasons he hates the Lannisters. Robb would protect the North against her, and Dany would rather burn Robb alive because the North will never side with her as long as he lives.
WHY ARE JON AND ROBB NOTHING MORE THEN ARM CANDY TO DANY STANS I DONT GET IT
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lemonhemlock Β· 2 months
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I saw a comment that really hit the nail on the head regarding a lot of the fandom in both ASOIAF/HOTD spaces. Basically, this comment said that a lot of Dany/Rhaenyra/Targ stans don't understand that targ women can both be oppressed and also oppressors. They literally view Westeros in this lens that the Worst Thing That Can Ever Happen to someone is misogyny, and yes GRRM's ahistorical levels of misogyny imbued in his work don't help here, and that nothing else can come close lol. They don't really get class dynamics, lesser nobles, etc. When you're the crown princess of the realm you have immense power, but also responsibility which, yes, includes not openly cuckolding your spouse and having obvious bastards you try to put into the succession lol. They very much think that every targ women could do whatever she wanted with her immensely privileged and pampered position as a royal and if anyone says anything, well, it's misogyny. It's a deeply unannounced, ahistorical way to look at this series.
Your comment in one of your other anons where you said 'are you really sexually liberated if you are causing pain to others in your vicinity' was funny to me because targ stans unironically would say 'yes.' They are stuck in this modern sensibility that romantic/sexual freedom is the number one civil liberty and anything a character does in pursuit of it is fine, even at the expense of others, and if anything bad happens as a result, well that's just the Patriarchy's fault. It's a fundamental difference in thinking that I don't think can ever be bridged because they are incapable of not projecting modern values. They truly believe that targ women can be privileged, pampered, politically and socially powerful, yet not be beholden to any of the traditions, duties, or responsibilities even with the most, like, basic decorum expected of royal and any calling out of this behavior is just misogyny lmao.
It's just so stupid lmao. Imagine if people had said that Queen Elizabeth II, one of the most rich, powerful, and privileged women in the world for literal decades was 'oppressed' because she couldn't have obvious affairs or take official mistresses or boytoys and have bastard children like her male forefathers did and blame that on misogyny lmao. It's literally the same thought process but these people cannot put two and two together if their lives depended on it.
^^^^ you did it, anon. you condensed targ stans to their essence πŸ˜…
some of them act as if being monarch should mean doing exactly what you want at all times and any kind of suggestion that immense privilege comes at the price of great responsibility automatically translates to misogyny. god forbid we put some restriction on "absolute power" and make it less absolute.
also in regards to sexual freedom and their inability to imagine a life without it. you live in the 21st century!! not only that you have recognised rights enshrined by law, but you also have modern medicine!! you have antibiotics, contraceptives, safe abortion, emergency services, surgeons, you can book an appointment with a doctor if you're feeling unwell etc. look me in the eye and tell me that if all of those were taken away overnight you'd continue to be your sexually liberated self and risk dying painfully of an STD in the name of love.
of course there are religious and sexist dimensions to restricting women's sexuality, there is no point in pretending otherwise, but who would really want their spouse to risk infecting them with whatnot in the name of sexual freedom? it's equally unhelpful in pretending there's not an aspect of public health in encouraging behaviours like chastity, monogamy and being faithful to your spouse.
again, this is not to say that it was all good and proper to be like that and what a time of pure morals we left behind in the olden days. it's to say that those times truly sucked for a lot of people, sometimes because of reasons they had no control over, and that they often had to choose between options that all sucked in some way
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thelustybraavosimaid Β· 3 months
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Bro you just killed my Kid Cudi listening sesh for this. How many times are we going to go over this with you people for fuck's sake
Rhaelya stans hate Sansa because...
Let me stop you right there. I am a Rhaelya, a Jonrya, and a Jon stan. I don't think about Sansa unless I'm forced to. My hyperfixation is on certain characters. Sansa isn't on my radar enough for me to hate her. Like Jon, I feel little else but indifference for her.
Sansa being a hostage makes Lyanna...look like she was a hostage...because there are parallels in both their situations.
But it's *not* a parallel, and here's exactly why.
Rhaegar is not like Joffrey.
Rhaegar actually died with Lyanna's name on his lips, as was confirmed in the official World of Ice and Fire App.
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He was also described as a "love-struck prince" by the author himself:
At last I was able to ask him the question I had sent for the tombola. I have always been fascinated by how ASOIAF embodies the theories put forward by Acemoglu and Robinson about countries with extractive institutions (which hamper development). So my question was: Why do you think the political institutions in the Seven Kingdoms are so weak? His answer: the Kingdom was unified with dragons, so the Targaryen's[sic] flaw was to create an absolute monarchy highly dependent on them, with the small council not designed to be a real check and balance. So, without dragons it took a sneeze, a wildly incompetent and megalomaniac king, a love struck prince, a brutal civil war, a dissolute king that didn't really know what to do with the throne and then chaos. Interesting answer.
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Joffrey had no real love for Sansa. He saw her as an object to mistreat and misuse. He had no empathy and a deep lack of consideration for other people. He had her beaten because it gave him momentary gratification, because he was a psychopath. How is this comparable in any way to Lyanna at the tower of joy?
In fact, the whole point of what we are finding out about Rhaegar through Dany's chapters is to prove that Rhaegar is literally not the monster Robert has been making him out to be. That all Robert has said was due of his blind hatred of him and little more. So again, how is Lyanna's experiences in the tower of joy comparable to Sansa being beaten and harmed as a hostage in King's Landing?
How could this be a parallel, and can you back your claim with anything other than headcanons that have no basis in the books?
There is a reason why the tale of the winter rose was told to Jon specifically β€” because Bael the Bard and the Stark maiden is analogous to Rhaegar and Lyanna.
George says this about romance:
It's interesting, to get back to this issue of romance that you raised earlier. When I was in Spain a few years ago, I had dinner with a woman β€” a Spanish academic β€” and a big fan of both science fiction and romance, and she had read a lot of my stuff because people said I was a very romantic writer. And she sort of launched at me and said, "What are you talking about?! You are not a romantic writer, you know. Nobody ever lives happily ever after in your books!"
I was defending it, saying, "Well, but that's a different tradition of romance. I don't β€” I'm a romantic writer in the tradition of The Great Gatsby and Romeo and Juliet, and, you know, the Beauty and the Beast. These things don't necessarily have happy endings, but aren't the most powerful romances the unfulfilled romances β€” the romances where people go their separate ways, but they'll always have Paris, like in Casablanca, one of the films I showed here. You know, they go separate at the end, but they'll always have Paris." And she basically said, "No, you're wrong. They have to be happily ever after together for it to be romance, otherwise it's just sad."
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This traditional telling of romance is shown quite clearly with both Bael the Bard with the Winter Rose and Rhaegar with Lyanna. Bael the Bard's tale was briefly happy:
No. They had been in Winterfell all the time, hiding with the dead beneath the castle. The maid loved Bael so dearly she bore him a son, the song says...though if truth be told, all the maids love Bael in them songs he wrote.
But also ended in tragedy:
"The song ends when they find the babe, but there is a darker end to the story. Thirty years later, when Bael was King-beyond-the-Wall and led the free folk south, it was young Lord Stark who met him at the Frozen Ford...and killed him, for Bael would not harm his own son when they met sword to sword."
"So the son slew the father instead," said Jon.
"Aye," she said, "but the gods hate kinslayers, even when they kill unknowing. When Lord Stark returned from the battle and his mother saw Bael's head upon his spear, she threw herself from a tower in her grief. Her son did not long outlive her. One o' his lords peeled the skin off him and wore him for a cloak." (Jon VI, ACoK)
Rhaegar left to fight in the War of the Usurper, lost and died. Lyanna died giving birth to Jon. And Jon died trying to save "Arya" from Ramsay.
This is what George means by a romantic love story.
And they also love Arya, because...Arya...looks like Lyanna
Or maybe we just like Arya because she's a fantastic character. Idk OP, could be that.
and isn't as hyper feminine as Sansa
This ties in quite well to the misogyny some "fans" of the series have to women like Arya. It's not because Sansa is "hyper feminine" that I don't care for her. I'm just indifferent to her. Femininity has absolutely nothing to do with it. I don't know if you know, but women can and do express themselves in different ways.
therefore her fans think she aligns with Rhaegar
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because they...hate Sansa and pretend its a love story
That is 100% the way George is taking R+L's story. This is quite literally his preferred telling of a romantic story. One where they share a brief affection for one another despite the eventual consequences, but end up separated, or worse.
Even though the point of Lyanna Stark is that her untold narrative is comparative to both Sansa and Arya
How is Lyanna's narrative comparative to Sansa? The only thing you've given was a non-parallel of being in the Red Keep/tower of joy, but there's nothing to suggest that Lyanna was trapped, beaten, or harmed there.
The king frowned. "A knife, perhaps. A good sharp one, and a bold man to wield it."
Ned did not feign surprise; Robert's hatred of the Targaryens was a madness in him. (Eddard II, AGoT)
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For the first time in years, he found himself remembering Rhaegar Targaryen. He wondered if Rhaegar had frequented brothels; somehow he thought not. (Eddard IX, AGoT)
You do not find it strange that the brother of the woman who was supposedly trapped and imprisoned at the tower of joy has no ill words to say about the man who supposedly committed such heinous crimes?
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I swear if I see one more mind numbing stan post about 'active' and 'passive' women in asoiaf fandom I am going to scream. Like all the 'active' favorites *cough SIs coughs* only get that privilege through the indulgence of a powerful male relative (See Arya or Lyanna learning swordplay) or straight having access to a deus ex machina (see Rhaenyra or Dany), but without one or the other the patriarchy still catches you (see Helaena or any of Jaehaerys's daughters) or it kills you (see every violent death by childbirth like Alyssa, Aemma, or Lyanna).
FRIEND. YES. MY GOD. ITS THE DUMBEST SHIT.
For one thing, a character can fall from active to passive or move from passive to active on the flip of a dime. Lyanna goes from being an active participant in her life to dying alone in a tower of sepsis. Cersei goes from actively politicking in King's Landing and being one of the faces of the War of Five Kings to beaten down and passively accepting what's happening to her (...for now) after her walk of atonement. Arya sends quite a bit of her time at Harrenhal very passive, simply trying to live from day to day before taking action to get herself, Gendry, and Hot Pie out of Harrenhal. Sometimes, a woman is simply put in a dangerous situation where the best thing for her to do is essentially play dead - if she's not actively and literally dying, that is.
Beyond that, the definitions people have of "active" and "passive" is like, just the dumbest shit imaginable. Helaena is often called a "passive" character despite having a relatively active role in keeping King's Landing calm and under control while Aegon is king until B&C, where she becomes quite passive due to, you know, extreme trauma. Sansa is seen as "passive" despite taking an active role in her own escape from King's Landing, from plotting with Dontos to making an alliance with the Tyrells. She is "actively" trying to sabatoge Littlefinger and Joffrey by undercutting their comments, saving people they don't want saved, and drawing attention to herself and her identity but none of that is seen as active because [incomprehensible gibberish]. Similarly, Rhaenyra is seen as an "active" character despite her "active" actions being...really similar to both Cersei and Sansa ie being in charge of "passive" activities like ruling on the Small Council, sending messages instead of fighting herself, planning her own escape, fighting for her own ability to marry who she chooses, etc. Like, people will look at Rhaenyra fighting against her marriage to Laenor and call that "active" but when Sansa refuses to kneel for Tyrion that's "passive" because...*cue fandom wank* Rhaenyra never not once fights in the books nor do we see her actually physically fighting in the show yet she's an active character while other women who rely on playing politics over commanding armies are considered "passive."
It's just the dumbest sort of discourse that is applied in the most lopsided, clearly angling to keep fandom wank going instead of actually engaging with the text imaginable. I am once again directing people to Brienne and Catelyn and asking why only certain types of power are celebrated, why only certain actions are considered "active", and why only certain types of women's stories are allowed to be told, in a series teaming with all sorts of varied women's stories.
"Brienne, I have taken many wellborn ladies into my service over the years, but never one like you. I am no battle commander.” β€œNo, but you have courage. Not battle courage perhaps but … I don’t know … a kind of woman’s courage."
"Fighting is better than this waiting," Brienne said. "You don't feel so helpless when you fight. You have a sword and a horse, sometimes an axe. When you're armored it's hard for anyone to hurt you. "Knights die in battle," Catelyn reminded her. Brienne looked at her with those blue and beautiful eyes. "As ladies die in childbed. No one sings songs about them."
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