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pathetic-gamer · 1 year

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Fashion in Fódlan: a very long, non-comprehensive, and entirely unsolicited analysis

The fe3h writers did a pretty solid job of creating three nations with clear social, economic, and political differences. The fashion stands out to me as doing exceptionally well at expressing those differences, and, just like in the real world, it works as a sort of socioeconomic barometer that helps tell Fódlan's story.

In this post, I'll break down the key clothing trends in the three regions and provide some light interpretations, largely related to $$

Please note that I'm NOT using this post to discuss historical inspirations. Also, not everyone from every region is included. In particular, anyone whose outfit is too much of just a riff on a class uniform (like the Ashen Wolves or the various minsters in the empire) is left out.

There's a part 2 now lol (church of seiros time); part 3 as well!

1. Holy Kingdom of Faerghus: function IS fashion, baby!!

Fearghus, beloved land of ice and snow and spooky folktales about watering your fields with blood and ghosts living under the ground - you did not come to fuck around. You're here to protect the commoners and go back home to a stew that may, if you're lucky, actually have some meat in it. In this kingdom, you're going to dress warm and you're going to like it. Oh, you have some extra money? Gonna spend it on something for yourself? Better be using it for something useful, like keeping your plate armor in good condition. (Please note: Catherine, though being Faeghan, is excluded because she wears the uniform of the Knights of Seiros, not her own clothes.)

Trends:

High collars, long skirts - generally as little exposed skin as possible. (There is exactly one pair of bare hands in the entire kingdom. Mercie is getting a little bold 👀)

Fur cloaks/capes/gloves, or just fur around the cuffs and collars if they don't have a full fur cloak.

Armor - every single man is dressed in armor, as is Ingrid. Most of the men have full suits of plate armor, but Felix, Rodrigue, and Ashe are wearing only gambesons (note the quilting in Felix's sleeve - that's what gives it away, imo). The folks in plate armor would have gambesons on as well (you can see Ingrid's underneath her breastplate), acting as padding for the plate armor. I think Gilbert is wearing plate armor with a tunic over it (a realistic historical practice).

Fastening is accomplished with clasps and lacing, and there are relatively few buttons or adornments to be seen on the main garments - Annette is an exception, which will be addressed later.

Brief analysis:

Notice the economical use of fabric - their clothing tends to lie flat, with fabric being layered for warmth rather than pleated, gathered, or puffed. The folks in plate armor may spice it up a little with a sash of some kind if they aren't already wearing a cloak or cape. I'm assuming Gilbert's ~stylish tunic~ is keeping him warm well enough to not need a cloak or larger scarf. (Mercedes has a ruffles and puffier sleeves, plus a fuller skirt, but it's worth noting that she is currently part of a merchant house, and merchants tend to be wealthier and actually occupy a unique social class between nobles and commoners.)

Note the colors, too. Greens, browns, and yellows are the cheapest and easiest dyes to make and use. That bright sort of tawny color that Gilbert, Annette, and Jeralt all have is easy and cheap. Gilbert's grey tunic could feasibly just be undyed wool. A true blue is difficult, but you'll note that the blue the people wear up here leans towards grey and green - could be that the dye is faded, or that it was never very blue to begin with. The only true blue is on Dimitri.

All of this reinforces the idea that Faerghus is not a rich nation, and the nobility don't live too far off from the common folk. The vast majority of the cost we see is actually their armor (worn by Dimitri, Dedue, Sylvain, Gilbert, Jeralt, Matthias, Ingrid, and also if we're getting all the way into it, Gwendal, Miklan, Lonato, and Baron Dominic as well), which is would have been pretty expensive. You'll notice they mostly wear grey armor with very little extra decoration, keeping the costs low. Ingrid, the poorest of the nobles in armor, also has the least actual plate. Felix and Rodrigue both have full cloaks, which most other people don't have (just Dimitri), but they also aren't wearing plate, so clearly that's a calculated choice.

That being said, even within these more economical fashions, we can still see clear differences between classes. Most noticeably, Felix (rich) and Ashe (not rich) have very similar outfits, but Felix's tunic/gambeson is lined with fur, while Ashe's is not.

BTW I'm of the opinion that the Fraldariuses are the richest people in the kingdom other than the royal family, and I believe that specifically of their fancy cloaks lol

so luxurious~

2. Adrestian Empire: look at my money bitch

Ah, the land of beauty and excess! I love to live in the capital and visit the cultural icon that is the opera and pretend that I'm not in Wealth Inequality Central. (Please note: Petra is not included, since she dresses according to Brigid's fashions. Also note: I fuck w these styles so hard, dude.)

Trends:

Short skirts (above the knee - Dorothea has a draped over-skirt thing, but her main skirt is shorter, and Manuela has leg slits instead of a short hem), low or square necklines, open backs. In general, we're looking at a lot of exposed skin. Forgot to include Cornelia in the pics, but she has this too.

Tailored jackets with just SO many buttons. Hanneman fits into the tailored jacket category, but isn't included in the highlights by virtue of Not Enough Buttons. (Some concept art is included here to drive the point home.)

Finally, there's this specific very specific double-breasted neckline thing (baby edelgard is separate bc i forgot to include her when i made the first image shhhh)

Brief analysis:

Adrestian fashion is all about displaying status and wealth, in this case through ornamentation, rich colors, uniforms denoting class/role, and also a fair amount of excess fabric.

Historically, fabric itself was one of the major indicators of wealth - in fact, certain historical styles very explicitly showed off just who was rich enough to afford, for example, a whole gown made from the same length of fabric, or even just an entire skirt panel with no piecing. In the Adrestian Empire, We've got excess fabric galore, tucked away into all those beautiful ruffles and bell sleeves, layered skirts, unnecessary capes, double collars, and puffy pants - and it's all in much more luxurious colors, too. In fact, I'm pretty sure the largest single piece of fabric on anyone in the game is Edelgard's cape, which is then also adorned with dozens of buttons and extra bits of fabric. It's almost definitely fully silk, both the outer layer and the lining. (And it's badass.)

Look at all that fluff! Dimitri's cloak probably rivals hers in the size of the actual fabric itself, but his is likely a heavy wool (unlined, maybe?), plus has a lot of fur.

"Oh, but pg, there are capes in Faerghus, too!" yes, but in Faerghus, they live in the arctic /hj. Note the vast expanses of exposed skin down here in the empire - clearly, cold is not an issue. You'll also note that the cloaks in Faerghus were heavy and lined with fur; that's not the case here. Given the prevalence of tailored jackets and the dual colors on Ferdinand's cape, I'm guessing they're either a comparatively lightweight wool with a silk lining (typical for tailored suit jackets, nothing particularly noteworthy about that), or just fully silk. (Bernie's shawl is just cotton though, prove me wrong...) Hanneman and Manuela are exceptions, since they both have fur, but they live at Garreg Mach, not in Enbarr.

The jackets themselves, by the way, could be silk OR wool. Ferdinand's in particular (especially thropes) reminds me of early 18th c. waistcoats, which would have been full silk.

We also have much richer colors down here in the land of art and song. Red, purple, and black were all very difficult colors to maintain, and very expensive. The most expensive colors, in fact. Not gonna lie, as far as price per yardage goes, I think Hubert's outfit might rival Edelgard’s in expense.

A notable exception to the excess fabric bit is Bernadetta. However, her dress is in what is arguably the most expensive color, and is heavily decorated, so that's a reasonable trade-off, and I don't blame her. I, too, would go for a smaller amount of pretty purple silk embroidered with bright, beautiful gold and yellow instead of a bigger, more impressive-looking option. It's about the little things.

I do want to take look at Caspar, in particular. He's unique in that he's dressed in a full suit of armor. But, given that he's the second son and not set to inherit anything, unlike all his waistcoat-wearing friends, he isn't being held to some particular uniform, and even if he were, it's the ministry of military affairs. Of course they wear real armor. What's interesting is that his armor is a sort of rosy grey/brass, rather than silver, and he has a lot more decoration and flair than the folks with full armor in Faerghus, in both his throuses and thropes outfits.

Worth noting, btw, that we have exactly zero examples of actual commoners in Adrestia, other than generic NPCs. Dorothea belongs to that peculiar niche that is opera and acting, so she is expected to dress and act like a noble, despite not having a title or property of any sort.

Adrestia - and Enbarr in particular - leads the slow march of fashion across Fódlan, given that it's a cultural hub and is so much wealthier, while Fearghus slowly picks things up over time. Thus, we have Annette, who lives closer to the empire and has disposable income, having some decorative buttons and tassels and a mock low neckline.

It's not nearly as much as the actual Adrestians, but she's picking it up!

3. Leicester Alliance: the beeeest of both worlds~

Oh, Alliance, you messy bitch. What we see here is a mix of everything, where some of them are influenced by Faerghus, and others by Adrestia (just like how some of them have kingdom-style names and some have empire-style names), and a few fit neither camp. There are clear reasons for similarities where they exist, though, so let's take a look! (Please note: Claude is not included, since his clothes are heavily influenced by Almyra.)

Hilda and Lysithea have the frills, puffy sleeves/skirt, short hems, low/square necklines, and expensive colors of the empire (plus, Lysithea gets a decorative veil in dark purple. How ~fancy~). This reinforces the idea that Adrestia sets the standards for fashion: Hilda cares about fashion and keeps up with the times. Lysithea lives on the border and was briefly under the control of the empire, and thus is influenced by it. Mostly, though, I think it's about how she tries to seem older and tends to see Hilda as a model of maturity (lol), so she's following that example.

Holst's armor is quite decorative, similar to Caspar's, but what stands out to me is the fringe in particular. We see the exact same fringe on Caspar, Hubert, and Edelgard, but not anywhere else.

Lorenz and Erwin are a bit of a border case, tbh! They both wear practical, full plate armor with little in the way of extra decor (other than Lorenz's rose and Erwin's little cape thing), but Jesus christ how much does it cost to keep it all so purple like that??? That's a blatant display of wealth that would impress any empire noble.

Marianne, on the other hand, would fit right in in Faerghus, with the old fashioned long skirt, high collar, capelet, and lack of extra decoration other than some pretty trim. Makes sense, since her territory is so close to the kingdom and she's clearly not interested in trying to stay fashionable.

Judith is dressed very practically, has some fun puffy sleeves and bright but inexpensive colors, has a short cape and gambeson (a short vest one, though). I want to say leans toward Faerghus, which makes sense since it's on the border and the house did at one point split off, with part going back to the kingdom.

Now we get to the only real, honest-to-god, never-owned-land-or-property, born-as-and-remain-now peasants/commoners: Leonie and Cyril. (Raphael was born into the merchant class and was able to support himself and Maya by selling his estate, so while we can consider him a real commoner at this point, it's not nearly to the same degree.)

Their economic status is obvious from their outfits: both have very practical clothes with no extra decoration, in cheap and easily accessible colors. Leonie's cloak wrapped around her waist is purely functional - she can use it when the weather calls for it, but it's out of the way of her arrows when she doesn't need it - and looks to be pretty soft, so likely is lightweight. She has a hint of some light protective wear (note the quilted sleeve) and the same front clasps as Felix and Ashe, so i think she's also meant to be wearing a gambeson, but it's shorter and less protective. Cyril doesn't seem to have any armor at all except for the shoulder protection - we can tell from the lack of center-front closures on his shirt and the shape of the cuffs of the sleeves that he's actually just wearing a tunic (or rather, two tunics on top of each other).

Raphael also has a very practical outfit, but notice that his is so much more protective, probably because he has a little more money than the other two. He has very limited, sparsely placed plate armor, but he is covered head-to-toe in quilted cloth armor. He's ready to get some punching done, baby!

Our real outlier, however, is Ignatz... But you bet your bottom dollar I've got an explanation for that one, too!!!!! Mans is an artist and he has rich(?) merchant parents, he can do whatever he wants.

Absurdly unnecessary lengths of (probably not very expensive) cloth? Sure. Fancy feathers that literally no one else gets? Why not! A billion buttons, half of which arent even keeping anything closed? Curly and intricate cloak fasteners probably made of some kind of cording? Sashes and tassels and a decorative sword??? Fuck it, we ball. I love this so much, it's easily my favorite outfit in the entire game and I would ABSOLUTELY wear it irl. I already have the right haircut and glasses and boots, I'm ready

4. In conclusion

These designs really are Fódlan in a nutshell. From the quiet wealth and functionality in Felix's fur-lined gambeson to the audacious luxury of Ferdinand's waistcoat to the unrepentant anarchism of Ignatz's entire vibe, we can see the history - and future - of the continent outlined right before our eyes:

Faerghus is cold, practical, focused on survival, and probably has the most even distribution of wealth. Leicester is a mix of remnants of the empire and kingdom, with clear wealth disparity but also a relatively high amount of social mobility and communal support systems. Adrestia has significantly wealth disparity, with nobles very disconnected from their people and instead busy politicking about.

Side note I know I said I wouldn't go into the historical inspirations, BUT I do think it's interesting that the men's clothing in Adrestia - particularly the tailoring - is similar to much later styles than the men's clothing in Faerghus, and the reverse is true of the women's sleeves and necklines.

Okay that's all, thanks for reading!

#fire emblem three houses #fe3h analysis #holy kingdom of faerghus #adrestian empire #leicester alliance #golden deer #black eagles #blue lions #fodlan's fashion icons #(not actually part of the series but it's topical ok)#this is why i cant do cosplay btw #i see an outfit i like and i immediately am like ok how do you make that irl? get me seven yards of cotton muslin we're doing a mockup #like why would i make Felix’s outfit if I'm not going all in on actual quilted armor yk?#i dont want Ignatz's pants if theyre going to just hang lazily and bunch at the ankle it needs BODY it needs STRUCTURE #yk?#anyway its super late im going to bed now bye #fashion in fodlan

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cynthrey · 2 months

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You know i cant let past the opportunity to do angst with this man

#empires s1 #empires smp #empires mythical sausage #empires gem #empires fwhip #empires katherine #empires pearl #champion of exor au #wither rose alliance #my art #mythicalsausage #geminitay #fwhip #katherine elizabeth #pearlescentmoon #holy shit thats a lot of tags #also this is the first time sausage is with the whole wra since coming to this world #before this he'd just see one or two of them together at best #pearl specially he has barely talked too

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ciderbird · 2 months

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Sophie de Choiseul-Gouffier in her memoirs is pretty much fangirling over Tsar Alexander and what a cutie-patootie he is, but I just got to a part where they’re discussing Napoleon, and Alexander is complaining about his character or something, to which she says “Well not every sovereign can be as perfect as Your Majesty”, and this 36 year old man apparently “blushed hiding his face in his hands and said with the most cordial smile: Please, no more compliments”

How is he like this??

#what is he so cute for???! I’m trying to be mad at him for the holy alliance!!#also take a shot every time the countess calls him an angel in this book #tsar alexander i #alexander i of russia #napoleon bonaparte #napoleonic wars #sophie de choiseul-gouffier

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dykedvonte · 1 month

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The Khans - My Introspective

I don't like the Military and I don't support a lot of the actions the NCR does to the Mojave in New Vegas but in terms of the Khans I feel like the fandom infantilizes or diminishes the fact that they are or at least one of the most violent raider groups in the Mojave.

What happened at Bitter Springs was a tragedy, innocent lives were lost and the fact that the NCR swept it under the rug and continued to hunt down Khans that are truly trying to back down and resettle is horrendous, but there is a history to the NCR's aggression towards them.

The Khans first appear in Fallout 1, the main faction of raiders in the game besides the mentioned Vipers (who don't actually appear if I remember correctly). They came from Vault 15 along with the members that would form rival groups; The Vipers, The Jackals, and Shady Sands. They are a very large and foreboding raiding party, known for burning towns and encampments they attack and taking survivors as their slaves or slaves to sell. They are a big reason why the Jackals and Vipers are actually so small in New Vegas, they wiped them out.

Their main targets where Shady Sands and Junker town, the former of the two would be what became The New California Republic. This explains a big part of their animosity towards the Khans, only furthered by the fact the Khans kidnapped Tandi as a young girl, the girl that would go to offically found the NCR out of Shady Sands. When the dweller saved her and killed much of the Khans, this allowed the NCR to develop into what it currently is as they no longer needed to focus on fighting off constant raids.

When the Khans became the New Khans in Fallout 2, they barely resembled the Khans as they were led by Darion, Garl Death-Hand's son (former leader of the Khans). They were smaller and refortified vault 15, still planning to take down the NCR (at this time nowhere near as imperialist as they are in FNV) as mostly a revenge/power ploy. They manipulate The Squat, a group of y'know squatters, that lived in the upper levels, promising and lying about repairing the vault and offering them ransacked caravan resources if they kept the NCR away. Being their only life line The Squat had no choice. Still the chosen one got rid of them and they left New California for the untapped Mojave.

The Great Khans, the most current iteration, continued in the path as the original Khans, regrouping and gaining information from the Followers who hoped they'd use their new medical knowledge to heal themselves. They gained more members and a substantial part of Vegas territory before they were run out by the three families. They were pushed to Bitter Springs where they first and foremost continued to pick off and attack NCR settlements, most of which consisted of caravans, towns, and camps as they saw them as easy like in their old days. It was the killing of four influential Republic members (non-military) that brought on Bitter Springs.

Bitter Springs was the result of years of hatred and animosity and likely the goal to send a final message to the Khans. It does not excuse the fact that innocent men, women, and children were slaughtered with few survivors. It does not excuse the fact that the NCR has yet to make amends for this and continues to try and persecute the Khans even in moments of surrender.

This post is not to defend what happened but to give a quick rundown of the Khan's history and their history with the NCR. It's to remind people that the NCR is not just their military power but an actual group/settlement of people that were also attacked indiscriminately by the Khans. It's to point out that the Khans were not a band of indigenous people (no matter the comparisons) driven from their homes but raiders who fed into the brutal cultures of the west coast wasteland and were in turn treated to the same things.

My frustration comes from the fact that FNV has so many comparisons to indigenous struggles but the groups it chooses are not comparable at all. Their oppression hinges on not being familiar with their past, which explains why they have the reputation they do in canon. The "tribes" are often not even groups of minorities or have goals/desires out of acquisitions of power and I feel like it is important to both acknowledge that this is bad indigenous rep because it is not supposed to be. It is supposed to be a comparison of the in-game groups and how they all do the same things and justify it in their own fucked up ways, some better at it than others.

FNV of all the Fallout games (in light of it being heavily Western based) distastefully uses indigenous imagery and theming for groups that are sad mimicries of American indigenous cultures at best and outright offensive at worst.

#this is also to say the NCR is barely different but they imply New California is a city and safe and that once the NCR military leaves #they will properly try to settle and revitalize the area unlike the goals of almost every other group #the issues arise from the tensions of the hoover dam battles the legion and the corrupt leaders chosen in what is a terse time #but the khans are interesting to me and I like the named khans we have in FNV but they are treated to be almost innocent at points due to #all the Ls they keep taking despite admitting to their raider roots and being PROUD #they partnered with the Legion and before i hear they didnt know they were slavers at a point too and likely didnt care if they believed it #would not affec their own. the Mojave is an unforgivnig place and sometimes you make unforgivable alliances since they alienated all their #other options through their continued and consistent behaviors #like i could go on how bad the native rep is but I would not use any of the tribes cause they barely count the only difference from the NCR #is they organize themself differtently like id use the tribes in Honest Hearts cause holy shit is it bad and racist like at least the Mojav #tribes are just white dickheads brutalizing each other and not the characatures of native people the Sorrows Dead Horse and White legs are #like yikes I hated playing white savior the dlc #this is also semi personal because i dont see a lot of POC people in the fandom talking about the Khans and so I dont know if the proper #perspectives can be added because just because something can represent a culture or group doesn't mean it does or that it was the primary #thing they were trying to get across #like feel free to ask and talk to me more about it cause grrr #fallout #fallout new vegas #the great khans #the khans #new california republic #the ncr #fallout 1 #fallout 2 #papa khan

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from-the-clouds · 1 year

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smut of kendall making the reader say "yes kendall, thank you kendall" while he's railing the reader. saw him say that in the last episode and its been in my mind ever since..

i have so many WIPs right now that i literally cannot take this on. HOWEVER i am posting it here for all the other kengirlies (gender neutral) to see because WILL be on my mind for the rest of the night, week, month, etc...

ugh ugh ugh i'm unstable

#“no one is allowed to say no” holy shitttttt #someone else from the kendall x reader writer alliance please write this the kengirls are starving and i am too busy to feed them #kendall roy #succession #writing #asks #kendall roy x reader

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beepborpdoodledorp · 6 months

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y'all

the new alliance stinks

#we got new relics and we FINALLY got a donate all option but holy shit the new alliance is so baaaad #crk #cookie run #cookie run kingdom

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dolokhoded · 5 months

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in order to like john the beloved you have to hate him first and then love him for who he is which is the world's most annoying freak

#🧅#maybe only second to judas. affectionate.#it's john judas mary beth. the holy trinity of fucking. weird ass disciples who are a little too into jesus #wrote he's god's favorite in the holy texts. insufferable little man #god i HAVE to have mary beth and john interact. i feel like they'd like each other since judas doesn't like either of them.#they're forming an alliance.#it's okay judas can team up with martha #and also zee. who has knives. but he legally has to stay neutral because he's besties with james and john is his brother so.#no knives for judas.#which is probably for the best.#he shouldn't have the zealot on his side he's too petty .#not that john isn't

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ben-the-hyena · 11 months

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SPEAKING OF POST MORTEM POWERS... as said, only Scarab is the known living character to have patron god-related powers, and his are even quite different from the others (not mummified, no talisman around his neck or anywhere, again a different transformation that looks more painful and a animalistic making him rip his robes and looking like he is growing into it rather than a magical-girl transformation like the others, doesn't need to say "WITH THE STRENTH OF RA" to activate it just his own thoughts, doesn't discharge nor need to recharge and can transform and detransform indefinetely, no magic weapon, and again PERHAPS the presence of the beetle tatoo/mark on his back), meaning his powers are probably coming from another source whenever that was which we will never know since the show was cancelled. And Kimas, the only minor mummy, after resurrecting is impressed by the others' powers who tell him all mummies have those and teach him how to use his, meaning Scarab aside it is obvious as day and night it is a mummy thing in that universe

Later in the show we see Ja-Kal was killed (and possibly Rath, Nefertina and Armon too) by the hand of his evil brother Arakh, who, jealous, had offered his services to Scarab, who accepted but told him he needed (in my own words) some more upgrades. After that we see him kill Ja-Kal with his scorpion powers he has as a mummy in present days

But something that bothered me... is he already had grey skin. The same grey skin he later has and all mummies are drawn with

So either it is a just an animation error and they did not bother recolor him right

Or, since his powers seemed to work like the others and not like Scarab's,

ARAKH WAS SO INSANE AND JEALOUS HE AGREED TO BE KILLED AND MUMMIFIED THEN RESURRECTED BY SCARAB TO BE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO KILL HIS BROTHER

AND SINCE WE SEE HE DOES NOT CARE FOR HIS 12 YEARS OLD SON KIMAS AND ONLY RAISED HIM TO BE YET ANOTHER WEAPON AGAINST JA-KAL AND AND KIMAS IS A MUMMY IT MEANS HE PROBABLY HAD HIM KILLED WITH HIM WHETHER HE WANTED OR NOT TO "REACH HIS POTENTIAL" THE DAY HE WOULD COME BACK TO LIFE

THAT GUY IS CRAZY

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empirearchives · 1 year

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Some of the Napoleonic reforms undone by the Pope was vaccination against smallpox and street lighting.

Source: Richard J. Evans, The Pursuit of Power: Europe 1815-1914

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religion-is-a-mental-illness · 2 years

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“Religion

The belief that an unseen, all-powerful entity made everything in the universe just for you and that your special, ancient, and often rewritten texts are the right ones and all those other religions are completely wrong.

Makes perfect sense.”

#Atheist Alliance International #religion #religion is superstition #superstition #religious superstitions #which god #one true god #one true religion #religious text #holy book #holy books #religion is a mental illness

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welove-thedirection · 1 year

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next sunday our favorite pieces of shit return to us and I can feel my depression subsiding

#the rebel alliance #my babies #the father the son and the Holy Ghost #Kendall Roy #shiv Roy #siobhan roy #Roman Roy #succession #succession hbo #gg

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its-raining-cats · 7 months

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IT PAYS TO BE A FREAK THAT DOES EVERY SIDE QUEST IN FFXIV HOLY SHIT

#SPOILERS FOR THALEIA IN TAGS #SPOILERS IN TAGS #SPOILERS FOR 6.5 ALLIANCE RAID AHEAD #LAST WARNING SO IT DOESNT SHOW UP IN THE PREVIEW ON MOBILE #YOU CAN MEET NYMEIA AND ALTHYK IN THE ELPIS SIDE QUESTS #HOLY SHIT #HOLY FUCKING SHIT #THE PAYOFF #IM GOING INSANE #THEYRE THERE IN ELPIS #THERES A QUEST CHAIN WITH THEM #this is a bigger high than when I did the black rose quests in the fringes and then it became important in msq

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blaiddydbrokeit · 2 years

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Some thoughts I had about the Holy Kingdom, the Alliance, their naming conventions and some timeline things.

So we are familiar with the Empire's name format of First Name von Last Name, and that prior to the founding of the Kingdom, it was the likely standard to naming conventions within Fodlan nobility. Given that Loog I was called out as Loog von Blaiddyd, and that Kyphon was presumably descent from the Fraldarius lineage, it's safe to also assume that Kyphon would be Kyphon von Fraldarius. Following the founding of the Kingdom in Red Wolf Moon, Imperial Year 751 at the end of the War of the Eagle and Lion, it may be established that the naming convention continued to assume a similar format for the subsequent time. The Leicester Rebellion in 801 saw the breakaway of Leicester from Adrestia, and its following assimilation under the Kingdom banner as a protectorate. This would likely have been during the reign of the king after Loog I, or the potential following king who would become predecessor to the reign of Klaus I.

It can be assumed that Klaus I was responsible for implementing that first shift in naming convention within the Kingdom to further distinguish its identity from the Empire and assert sovereign loyalties from its noble houses. This likely makes Banfig, Krouffer and Kite part of the first generation using such a format, placing the beginning several decades before the Crescent Moon War in 881.

This also makes sense timeline wise, given that the Alliance portrays an incomplete switch from the Empire format to the Kingdom format. It suggests that such conventions were not yet standard in the Kingdom at the time of breakaway, that with the formation of the Alliance under their own banner, only some of the houses had already adopted it and would simply continue to use it, and others no longer saw need to conform to Kingdom practices when they were flying their own banner.

We get a bit of a skip in terms of what we are told from this point - nothing too major for about 200 years. However, this encompasses an estimate of 6 to 8 generations during which the convention becomes distinctly standard to the Kingdom, that even minor houses like the Barony of Dominic would conform - hence Gustave being canonically "Gustave Eddie Dominic". The early 1100s (think the first 2 decades or so) would be the reign of Lambert and Rufus' grandfather, and from the late 1130s onward, the reign of Lambert and Rufus' father during which he would serve as squire.

Given that Lambert doesn't become king until the later 1150s - inferred from his time at the Academy in the earlier part of the decade, and that his coronation must have come before Dimitri's birth in 1162, I think it holds up fairly well in the timeline we were presented. Gustave would have been well into his 30s during Lambert's reign, and in his 50s during Rufus' regency, he could definitely have been the one overseeing Dimitri's training and youth between the 1160s and 1170s. Rufus' regency in Houses always ends in 1181, whether by death or otherwise, and Gustave is in his early 60s during the war phase in 1185. Interestingly, Dimitri's own coronation in AM (the only route where he survives the war) being toward the tail end of 1185 is actually quite a gap (30+ years since Lambert's own coronation and almost 10 years since his death, since Rufus is regent rather than King) if we notice how often the monarchy of Faerghus changes hands at about a 20 year interval.

It's fascinating how strongly the timeline holds with a little bit of logical inference, isn't it?

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