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Going back through my recordings and realized I captured a movie scene during one of my rides
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theweeklydiscourse · 3 months
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Tbh I’ve never really viewed Han’s death as an insurmountable moral obstacle in Kylo’s redemption arc. This could be because I personally don’t have many strong or passionate feelings about him as a character, but I also think that from a story perspective, it’s because his death has a relevant narrative function for Kylo’s character arc.
The fact that the movies take the time to show the viewer his guilt and turmoil over the event, telling Rey that he didn’t hate Han, Snoke berating him for being so shaken by it, these are clear examples of his progression towards redemption. Especially considering that Han had already forgiven his son for killing him and his death acted as a symbolic gesture to give him a push in the right direction. Because it was precisely Han’s death that was the catalyst for Ben’s development in the subsequent movies. I guess I just don’t really see it as a huge deal, Han died loving his son and what better way to honour his sacrifice than for it to eventually culminate in his son returning back to the light?
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juliebmlog · 3 months
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Disney I'm BEGGING you to bring back Hans for Frozen 3, AND THIS TIME WITH A REDEMPTION ARC
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kittyandco · 8 months
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breathes in
okay. i have literally never seen anyone advocate for hans' potential redemption because he "never did anything wrong," or solely because he was abused and therefore free of all blame (and yes, his abuse is CANON), or ESPECIALLY because he's hot. ever.
what fans are saying is that they want someone who's been hurt by the people who should have been protecting him and raising him and loving him finally achieving some kind of freedom from such deeply ingrained trauma, beginning by making amends with the people he hurt. his reasons are inarguably linked to his past; he didn't decide to commit attempted regicide and treason out of nowhere, and we know that. he saw it as an out. a desperate, last-ditch effort.
we want to see him move on. because, decidedly, he was not dealing with what he went through in any meaningful way. he was pursuing something that he thought would free him from constant inadequacy, but it was only reinforcing the same hierarchy that, in part, pushed him to this point. he wanted to achieve some semblance of freedom by escaping the southern isles, and he felt that this was his only way... but in many ways he would be living in the shadow of his family. he'd be proving that power & status is all that matters, no matter the cost, like his family (especially his father) taught him.
he's been treated as nothing more than a servant, a doormat, an easy target. why would he suddenly stop believing these things about himself the moment he became king? that's just it: if he takes the steps to redeem himself in some way, he may be able to break free of this self-image. he can be better than his family, and especially his father, who he doesn't want to become but whom he is dangerously close to becoming.
and in a film like frozen, where "letting go" and acknowledging your pain head-on, seeing hans actively not do these things, rather painting over it all with power and status, hurts a little. if you relate to any of the characters in any capacity, then you probably understand the hurt that comes with denying your feelings, your experiences that got you here, all your traumas and fears, and how quickly it can spiral. how it can turn you into a different person entirely, often a person that you don't like being.
that's what hans represents for so many people. for many, he's what we could become (hence why he's symbolic of the evil mirror from the original tale). but he also represents protection in an unsafe situation that you feel that you cannot escape. he blends in easily with any situation; he had to learn this for his survival. all we want is to see a reality where he doesn't have to do any of this anymore, just like we wanted to see elsa free of the fears of herself and her surroundings that held her back, and it begins with him being honest about what he did and trying to make amends.
i could go on and on about the ways i personally relate to him. but these are just a few examples and how redemption plays a role.
this is not "apologia." (i know it's coming.) this is simply an explanation as to why people might connect with someone like hans and would want to see him heal. in a film about healing relationships with oneself, a redemption arc would fit right in, and would show people that it's never too late. elsa & anna don't have to forgive him, but the fact that he might be able to try to seek forgiveness and a brighter fate is enough.
you don't have to sympathize with him, or even empathize with him. you can say he belongs in the trash can forever for all i care. but don't misrepresent our wish to see someone we connect with improve meaningfully and the reasons why we would want it.
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BEST LONG-TIME PINING SHIPS: REDEMPTION ROUND R1 M8
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Reasons to vote for each ship under the cut!
Nozomizo: Nozomizo essay linked here!!!
Yoohankim: okay okay so. kim dokja reads about yoo joonghyuk’s life for 10 years (he’s the main character of a webnovel kdj’s been reading). han sooyoung waits for 50 years in an alternate universe she’s stuck in. han sooyoung and yoo joonghyuk wait together for 3 years for kim dokja to return after he died (once). yoo joonghyuk and han sooyoung regress (die and go back in time to start over) and live through another apocalypse to get to kim dokja. it’s revealed han sooyoung was the one writing that webnovel kim dokja read for 10 years (she wanted to keep him alive). it’s also revealed yoo joonghyuk regressed 1863 times (so at least 1863 years) to find kim dokja. yoo joonghyuk goes into space for a long long while in hopes of getting kim dokja back. han sooyoung waits for both of them. it’s complicated but i can say with full certainty that combined they have pined for each other for 17 million years
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princess-ibri · 6 days
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tiredcowgirls · 6 months
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Bi Han headcannons!
Growing up he was distant and rarely spoke but he was still very kind and gentle to his brothers. It wasn’t until after he started killing and his mothers death that any of the kindness in him died.
Although Kuai Liang and Tomas also grew up under their fathers strict training. Bi Han had it worse to the point of abuse. Letting his father die was easy for him and something his brothers would never understand.
Doesn’t care about his appearance or health as long as it doesn’t get in the way of training or fighting.
Eats very little. Just enough.
When they took Tomas in he was very young and obviously hurt he required a lot of attention which only made bi han resent him as he thought he had it easy compared to him having to almost die for someone to notice.
Black and white thinking. You’re either a weak nobody or someone strong worthy of his respect.
Doesn’t like music or alcohol or gambling. He thinks they are useless and just a distraction from his goals. He also considers people who consume said things to be stupid.
I think this kind of thinking is common with abuse victims when you have a more violent parent and a more passive one you look at the passive one as your savior or as the good one because technically they are not hurting you. Bi Han had this relationship with his mother.
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lament4piligrim · 3 months
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МК1 AU, where Hanzo Hasashi is not rebirthed
After Ahsoka's ending, I cried my eyes out all over and then thought of my AU.
[Hanzo Hasashi] What if Hanzo became a ghost again? But he was no longer seeking revenge, but peace?
It took him a long time to forgive Lin Kuei, yet even longer to forgive himself.
He quietly watched as Liu Kang restarted the timeline. As the universe breathed life, and with it came death. Thousands, millions of lives drifted away through the eons, and Hanzo realized for a moment that being human was much harder and more exciting. As much pain as he saw in the hearts of humans, he also saw boundless happiness.
He learned to rejoice in the little things and to have a deep understanding of those who had stepped on the path of evil. He learned how to curb anger and hatred.
But the hardest part was learning to let go of those he loved more than his own life.
After many more eons, he finally saw them.
Harumi was still as beautiful and majestic as ever. There was a goodness and strength in her soul that Hanzo could not have had in his lifetime. She cared for other people she didn't know in her previous life. But Hanzo couldn't blame these 'children', they weren't the ones who had hatred and dislike for Shirai Ryu. They were the ones who had created it.
Hanzo would have laughed at the ridiculousness of it. If his Kuai Liang had found out that his counterpart was now Scorpion, he would have definitely frozen with shock. If his Harumi found out that she was now married to someone else….. Hanzo didn't know how his beloved would react.
It all seemed unfair.
But on the other hand, if he wasn't with them, maybe they could have the happiness they deserved. They could give Satoshi a long life full of joy and adventure.
A lot had happened since they had defeated Shang Tsung, defeated Havik….. and made peace with Bi-Han. His worst enemy… and his sin. Watching this man who dreamed of becoming Grandmaster of a powerful clan manage to escape the clutches of darkness, avoid his fate of becoming Noob Saibot, was a true blessing. Bi Han was able to suppress his insatiable greed, learned patience and forgiveness, and restored his clan's honor, once again becoming the protector of the Earthrealm with Shirai Ryu.
Kuai Liang regardless of whether he was Sub-Zero or Scorpion, he was still the same Kuai Liang he had once known. Loved. And still does. He was brave and righteous, knew regret and pain, but unlike Hanzo he was able to muffle it all and not follow the path he himself had once walked. Kuai Liang deserved his title, bestowed upon him by the clan for his strength and heart. Just as he deserved to be Shirai Ryu's Grandmaster and, as bitter as it was, to be Harumi's husband. To be Satoshi's father. With him, his family has a chance to live happily ever after.
A chance they wouldn't have if he was with them.
Perhaps it was time for him to let go and forgive himself.
"You will not show yourself to them, my dear friend?" "They don't need to." "They miss you."
Liu Kang never lied. Not to friends, not to enemies.
The very thought that his loved ones, even without knowing much about him, still missed him warmed his dead heart.
"My place is in the old world, amidst the agony and pain we endured. I will keep them until my time comes." "When they remember, they will be miserable, Hanzo. They will look for you, all of them." "Then I entrust them to you, my friend. You will do the right thing." "That is cruel. But I respect your choice. Farewell, Hanzo Hasashi."
The two once allies bowed to each other.
Hanzo took one last look at the happy faces of his loved ones and disappeared with the falling fire petals of the Fire Garden.
He was at peace at last.
P.S. I'm crying Anakin is so😭
P.S.2 Now I need a fullstory for this AU, but I don't think I could handle this(
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that-frozen-queen · 4 months
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Hot take: Hans was a great villain, some of you cannot get over your crush on him to see that the villain twist not only makes sense, but is important for Anna’s character especially.
How oftentimes, growing up in sheltered environments makes people more susceptible to be manipulated… which Anna was. To show how her desperation of love could be used against her by people who don’t really give a shit about her.
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911 + Text Posts pt157/?
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walkawaytall · 1 year
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My new headcanon is that, the very first time Leia almost dies post-Death-Star-Rescue, Han is like, “You survived all of that and now you’re going to die in this inconsequential way? That’s so embarrassing for you. You should rethink that,” thereby encouraging Leia to live primarily out of spite, and whenever he almost dies next, she trots out the exact same Indictment of Lame Death Mortification, and this is how they stayed alive for like thirty years despite wildly varying odds.
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photsibutnot · 11 months
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so. apparently hans will appear in the upcoming short film “once upon a studio” that’ll be displayed before Wish in movie theaters??
and low and behold its another silly goofy haha moment that tortures him?,??,
WE ARE TIREDDDDDD DISNEY
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iambellarose1816 · 3 months
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Me wanting Santino and Idina to sing a duet for F3 🥰🥰🥰
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bluedaisy312 · 3 months
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˗ˏˋ my favourite characters ´ˎ˗
Red Dead Redemption 2:
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Arthur Morgan, John Marston, Mary - Beth Gaskill, Hosea Matthews
Harry Potter:
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Hermione Granger, Harry Potter, Blaise Zabini
Star Wars:
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Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader, Han Solo, Leia Organa
House of Dragon:
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Jacaerys Targaryen, Rhaenyra Targaryen, Alicent Hightower, Aemond Targaryen
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princess-ibri · 8 months
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Tada! Another couple practice comic pages, this time featuring Hans and Karen (and salamander friend) from my Frozen 3 concept
(Click for better quality)
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