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tolkien-obsessed · 10 months
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@lotrladiessource ➡ LOTR LADIES WEEK DAY FOUR: WOMEN (part 2/2)
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ass-deep-in-demons · 2 months
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I love Domhall Gleeson so much, you have no idea!!! 😱😍😭❤️ I was already super interested in your wonderfully conceived Derufin before, and now I'm even more determined to bring him into my AU with a significant role! With your permission, of course!
I know he's technically canon, but the character is one of those blank slates that makes him practically an OC (in my view, anyway). When you have the time, could you please give me an info dump of everything you've created for him, as much as you are comfortable sharing? If you don't mind! :)
And speaking of fancasting, is his father Duinhir played by Brendan Gleeson by any chance? 😂
PS. Have fun with BG3! I haven't played it myself, but my sister spent a solid amount of time being lost to that game too. So I understand the fixation. 😂
Thank you so much for sending this ask @sotwk! And thank you for your infinite patience, unfortunately my new job has been hectic so I've had to delay forming a replay, but HERE WE GO!
The second I read your idea about Brendan Gleeson being Duinhir it immediately became my canon also <3.
There are some things about the Derufin/Morwen/Boromir triangle that I've cut out from Under Our Darkening Skies.
"When Lady Morwen had first arrived in Minas Tirith, she had wasted no time to approach Boromir and subtly prodded him on his designs regarding marriage. He was, after all, the most sought after bachelor in Gondor. A bachelor still, in his late thirties, to his father’s eternal chagrin. In response, the Steward’s Heir equally gently had let slip that he had not been planning to take a wife, and she had quickly pranced off to the greener pastures that the City offered."
Because of Morwen initially setting her sights on Boromir (I mean duh), Derufin is still to this day reluctant to make his feelings for her known. He thinks Morwen still prefers Boromir. In reality Morwen's making a pass on Boromir back then had been dictated more by her youthful ambition than any real feelings for him or even any genuine regard. So, Derufin, grow a pair and just ask her out already!!!
Some more trivia:
Derufin's older brother Duilin is prone to brooding and melancholy while Derufin is the funny, carefree one.
Derufin's love for Lady Morwen is rivalled only by his love for his finely made and custom-decorated yew longbow - a gift from Lord Steward given for Derufin's knighting. He has, of course, named the bow after the Lady. Boromir groans loudly whenever he's reminded of it. Derufin is so so so cringe about his bow but also INSANELY good at archery.
Derufin is one of the few people who know about Boromir's fling with the Archivist. He found out accidentally (and has been wishing to erase the image from his brain ever since).
Derufin is actually not the only member of Boromir and Faramir's friend group from their youth. The "pack", aside from Boromir, Faramir, Derufin and Duilin, also included Hirluin the Fair (nicknamed Pretty Boy by Derufin). Faramir befriended Hirluin when he squired in under Hador, the Lord of Pinnath Gelin. Hirluin (who has as of 3018 TE succeeded his late father) is a ladies man and a party animal, so his friendship with Faramir is an unlikely one. However, their bond is strong because of the shared memories from their youth.
I dread what will become of these babies during the Battle of Pelennor. Just know that I am out od my mind and I can promise nothing :D
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warrioreowynofrohan · 8 months
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Favourite Female Tolkien Character Poll - Round 2, Match 15
Éowyn
Come on, you all know who Éowyn is. Shieldmaiden of Rohan, kills the Witch-king of Angmar, healed of the Black Breath by Aragorn and of despair by Faramir, marries Faramir.
Morwen Steelsheen
The mother of Théoden, and of two daughters (one older than him and one younger); Eowyn's grandmother. She was from Lossarnach in Gondor, and was seventeen years younger than her husband Thengel.
Éowyn was slender and tall, with a grace and pride that came to her out of the South from Morwen of Lossarnach, whom the Rohirrim had called Steelsheen.
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almostlookedhuman · 6 months
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rohirric-hunter · 11 months
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I can definitely deliver your message to Arlach in Arnach. It's a pretty quick trip... not at all what you'd call a far track.
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sirioniel · 1 year
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Morwen of Lossarnach, also called Steelsheen, descended from the Princes of Dol Amroth and became Queen Consort to King Thengel of Rohan. Unfortunately Tolkien doesn't say much about her.
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Besides this quote Tolkien writes that Éowyn bears a resemblence to her grandmother Morwen and their shared Gondorian ancestry.
J.R.R. Tolkien: The Lord of the Rings, Appendix A, the House of Eol.
Illustration by W. Heath Robinson.
Published in: The Poems of Edgar Allan Poe. London/ New York 1900.
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g-m-kaye · 3 months
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"Éowyn was slender and tall, with a grace and pride that came to her out of the South from Morwen of Lossarnach, whom the Rohirrim had called Steelsheen."
(Appendix A "The House of Eorl")
Éowyn with Shadowfax in the lush meadows of Rohan @megarywrites @sotwk :)
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hobbitwrangler · 17 days
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WIP Wednesday
Thank you @emyn-arnens for tagging me!
Instead of making progress in my current WIPs I have once more been possessed by love for Dol Amroth (shocking, I know). So here's a little from Finduilas' funeral.
Ivriniel did not realise that she was standing, completely still, until a hand brushed her arm. “My lady?” It took her a long moment to recognise the man who stood beside her. About a head taller than her, broad-built and grey-eyed, Îrdir of Lossarnach had the traditional Gondorian look, with olive skin and an aquiline profile. There was concern in his eyes now as he asked, “Are you well, my lady?” My sister is dead. How can I possibly be well? But she did not say that. Instead she smiled slightly. The movement made her stomach twist. “It has been a while, Îrdir,” she said pleasantly. It shocked her how easy it was to fake normalcy. Maybe the wine was finally working. “I hope you and your family are well.” “We are,” said Îrdir gently. “But it seems wrong for me to speak of that in current circumstances.” “Oh please,” said Ivriniel, wondering just how painfully obvious her desperation was, “I’m drowning in sympathy.”
tagging @searchingforserendipity25 @sotwk @glorf1ndel @konartiste if you'd like to!
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tanoraqui · 1 year
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I COMPLETELY FORGOT A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF CROWNLESS (the Young Aragorn show that lives in my, and apparently many of your, hearts): Each season opens with the framing device of middle-aged Sam Gamgee sitting by the fire in Bag End, telling his kids stories about the King. If you don’t have a (historical inaccuracy-excusing) narrative frame in a Middle Earth story, wtf are you even doing?
Also, the theme song in my mind is "All That Is Gold Does Not Glitter" by Clamavi de Profundis, but I'm open to some other group doing their own arrangement of the poem.
so, key elements of season 3 (s1 and 2 here):
A couple times in s2, including notably in the season finale?, Rohirrim were involved…so at the very end of that season, King Thengel invited Aragorn to come serve in his court/armed forces. That’s right, it’s time for UNMITIGATED HORSE GIRL!ARAGORN HOURS!
(confession: I could be persuaded to combine s2 and s3, with some elements of s3 going into s4)
(and clarification: Aragorn isn't deliberately using a false name, but he's also not presenting himself as anything more than a random northern Dúnedain ranger, son of nobody in particular.)
The show starts to shift in this season: in addition to/in place of some monster of the week episodes, we get political drama of the week, and more ongoing plotlines. Also, I realized it’s as much ‘location of the week’ as ‘monster of the week’—that continues, centered around Rohan (which means we’ll retread some locations from s2)
First trip to Minas Tirith, on some diplomatic excursion!
fun canon LotR info: Thengel, Theoden's father, was a total Gondor stan - he lived there from his teens until he had to come home to take up the crown, he married a woman from Lossarnach, as King of Rohan he spoke Sindarin and Westernesse and not Rohirric...
so I'm gonna say that teenage Theoden is kind of resentful of that? He was born in Lossarnach, came to Rohan at age 5...but Rohan is his home and he loves it, and he wonders if his father is too enamored of Gondor to be the best king of Rohan. He's skeptical of Thengel recruiting this random Ranger to be a captain of the Riders. On the flip side, Aragorn is SO COOL, and superb with horses. and Theoden wants to be him when he grows up. It's hard, being a teenager and a prince, with 4 sisters. It's hard and nobody understands
Sauruman is there for an episode, being genuinely helpful but his vibes are faintly rancid. He's about to start building up Isengard as an armed power. If the season finale involves something like a proper battle again, he might pitch in.
Halbarad and Dúnawen might actually stay in Ithilien? Or they come along to Rohan but they just join the Riders without getting involved in court stuff at all. Aragorn is going to start doing more things on his own. They presumably have their own B/C-plot character arcs btw, I just don't know what
Roddis definitely stayed behind in Ithilien/Gondor. New in the cast, however, not from quite the start but maybe like ep7/22, or the midseason onward? Is a perfectly normal human woman with dark hair and grey eyes...
Arwen. It's Arwen.
Aragorn: Why are you here? Arwen: I am the daughter of Elrond Half-Elven. My grandparents include the Evening Star, White-Winged Elwing, and Galadriel, student of Melian who on separate occasions told both Fëanor and Eonwë to fuck off. Everyone who met her agrees that I look just like my great-great-grandmother Lúthien Tinúviel. The distant echo of the Doom of the Exiles runs in my veins, as do the Songs of Lúthien and the Light of a Silmaril. I know the weight of Fate when it settles on my shoulders like a mantle, as it did when you called me 'Tinúviel' beneath Imladris's twilit trees—but the Choice of the Peredhel remains mine and mine alone. So I have come, Elessar, Isildur's heir, to see if I actually like you. Arwen: Curiosity. Aragorn: [vividly remembering how in s1 his mom said, "She's way out of your league" and Elrond said, "You won't get married until you're king." (Aragorn: "...married to your daughter?" Elrond: "To anyone. Period.")] Aragorn: Cool. Curiosity is cool. I'm gonna be so normal about this.
(Spoilers: he was not entirely normal about this.)
(Spoilers: they super do like each other, though)
Idk what the backup rangers are doing overall, but I do want Aragorn and Dúnawen to still have some sort of romantic Thing in s2, maybe off and on again, as Aragorn thought Arwen wasn't interested and was trying not to just be moping about it... Then Arwen arrives and Aragorn is So Conflicted for like 1 episode, before Dúnawen comes to him like, "Aragorn, I love you as a friend and comrade-in-arms and I love you as my chieftain and king-to-be, and I could probably love you as a wife if we really tried...but you clearly have not just a crush but some sort of Destiny thing with Lady Arwen, so I'm going to go back to Ithilien for a bit, maybe get drunk and laid with a handsome barmaid, and get over you. While I'm gone, you should try, like, talking to her."
A thing that Aragorn and Arwen...do bond over, but more it's there to demonstrate their compatibility to the audience, is: ...So, we (the writers/producers) don't have the rights to The Silmarillion, right, just The Lord of the Rings and its Appendices, and The Hobbit. These do periodically namedrop people, however, with dashes of elaboration mostly in the Appendices...and Aragorn is established from the start to be a bit of a history nerd, because that's what happens when you're raised by Elrond...so periodically, Aragorn and his friends will be in a Situation and Aragorn will whisper, like, "This is just like when [Fëanor/Túrin/Tar-Minastir/etc...]—" and Halbarad or Dúnawen hisses, "Does that actually help us right now?" and Aragorn will say, "Sure!" and start doing something that Silmarillion nerds can recognize is inspired by whatever the person in question did in a similar situation (note: sometimes Aragorn deliberately does the opposite of what the historical figure did, and it works much better.) The writers very carefully do not explicitly reference anything not explicitly in the permitted texts. If they need/get to elaborate on a historical figure, they'll toe a careful line of Silmarillion canon and blatantly made-up things.
That happened more in s1, when the show needed to make good with the old fans, but also in s2. Aragorn remains the only one referencing this stuff. Then in s3, he and Arwen are...let's say captured by bandits, and Arwen murmurs in his ear, "I have an idea. You know in the Lay of Lúthien..." Aragorn's eyes widen. "Beren and Lúthien or Beren and Finrod?" Arwen: "Finrod." Aragorn nods, and they proceed to bullshit their way out of being captive with flawless teamwork and yes-and-ing (and maybe fight a wolf on their way out, just to be thorough).
No idea what this season finale is. Like I said, you could probably weave parts of most of this season into s2 and s4? But that would ruin the "a different significant geographical area every season" thing we've got going on.
[s4 here!]
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ceescedasticity · 2 months
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More normal OC question: what does an average day look like for Zuste in Minas Tirith? If her life there was a tv show, would it be more political drama or office/personal life sitcom, and what would be an A plot, a B plot and a C plot?
Hmmm… I think to some extent Zuste is the comically serious secondary character in the royal retainers' collective office sitcom?
Like, her first episode has the TV Guide blurb— The Queen brings back a strange Dunlending as her new retainer, making [regular handmaiden character] unsure about her future. [Regular secretary character] realizes he ordered far too much ink.
The heiress of Lossarnach arrives at the Citadel. [Stablemaster regular] looks for a horse which is not scared of Zuste.
[Two regulars] compete for a rumored promotion. [Handmaiden] asks Zuste to teach her to use a knife.
[Doofy guard regular] thinks he saw an assassin, but only Zuste the Dunlending will listen to him.
[Secretary regular] is afraid he has found Denethor's secret papers. Zuste finds out about the guards' bet and reacts unexpectedly.
A Rohirric merchant claims Zuste is a goblin and threatens to tell everyone, and the gang must stop him.
Sorry, this doesn't really answer the question, I just got stuck on episode summaries…
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anthropomorphique · 1 month
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So time and the hopeless journey wore away. Upon the fourth day from the Cross-roads and the sixth from Minas Tirith they came at last to the end of the living lands, and began to pass into the desolation that lay before the gates of the Pass of Cirith Gorgor; and they could descry the marshes and the desert that stretched north and west to the Emyn Muil. So desolate were those places and so deep the horror that lay on them that some of the host were unmanned, and they could neither walk nor ride further north.
Aragorn looked at them, and there was pity in his eyes rather than wrath; for these were young men from Rohan, from Westfold far away, or husbandmen from Lossarnach, and to them Mordor had been from childhood a name of evil, and yet unreal, a legend that had no part in their simple life; and now they walked like men in a hideous dream made true, and
they understood not this war nor why fate should lead them to such a pass.
'Go!' said Aragorn. 'But keep what honour you may, and do not run! And there is a task which you may attempt and so be not wholly shamed. Take your way south-west till you come to Cair Andros, and if that is still held by enemies, as I think, then re-take it, if you can; and hold it to the last in defence of Gondor and Rohan!'
Then some being shamed by his mercy overcame their fear and went on, and the others took new hope, hearing of a manful deed within their measure that they could turn to, and they departed. And so, since many men had already been left at the Cross-roads, it was with less than six thousands that the Captains of the West came at last to challenge the Black Gate and the might of Mordor.
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ettelenethelien · 2 months
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Gondorian folklore
Part 2 (part 1 here)
Naming superstitions!
Most of the coastal regions believe in naming kids for virtues/blessings you hope will grace their life. So meanings like "joyful daughter", "mercy", "brave warrior", "one who is loyal" etc... Those regions also tend to be notably short in Túrins.
Lossarnach and Lamedon have a thing that's almost the inverse - a special prohibition against naming children for laughter which is believed to be almost tempting fate. "The child that's named for laughter will sorrow know thereafter" or "A girl that's named for laughing ways will know but tears for all her days" are popular sayings on the subject
This is actual canon, but: tales of mortal sailors who found their way onto the straight path into the West. Most of these are of the "yes, but how on earth would we learn of that?" variety (or "it came to me in a dream" but that is a valid source in Middle-Earth), but some describe people who sailed onto the star-path by accident and safely returned to mortal seas. There is... debate on whether any of the stories are to be believed.
Once in a while a rumour arises that some sailor somewhere found the isle that was the Meneltarma, sometimes in conjunction with the aforementioned.
The veracity of these claims is unverifiable.
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ithilienns · 17 days
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For your writers truth & dare ask game, I send you:
🥤- recommend a fanfic or author you love
🛼- describe your latest wip with five emojis
Enjoy! 😁
Sorry I didn’t get to this sooner!!! Thank you so much for the ask 😊
For 🥤: it really depends on the fandom!
Most of my following is for Tolkien related content, in which case MedeaSmyke’s A Consolation of Princes Part I & II on AO3. It’s the Thengel / Morwen of Lossarnach fic(s) you never knew you needed, the dynamic is vaguely reminiscent of Emma and it’s really reminding me of how much my love for Théoden grows every day.
For the ASOIAF / HOTD fans, I’m deep in the HOTD trenches at the moment, so I would say any fic from sweetestsorrows, ginvael, amazingangie or luthien-under-bough for that fandom (all are specifically Daemyra, sorry my Rhaenicent fam I love you too). In particular sweetestsorrows has some fantastic stuff.
For 🛼 : 🐉💍💖🩸🤯
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tsnbrainrot · 10 months
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Aragorn looked at them, and there was pity in his eyes rather than wrath; for these were young men from Rohan, from westfold far away, or husbandmen from Lossarnach, and to them Mordor had been from childhood a name of evil, and yet unreal, a legend that had no part in their simple life; and now they walked like men in a hideous dream made true, and they understood not this war nor why fate should lead them to such a pass. 'Go!' said Aragorn. 'But keep what honour you may, and do not run! And there is a task which you may attempt and so not be wholly shamed. Take your way south-west till you come to Cair Andros, and if that is still held by enemies, as I think, then re-take it, if you can; and hold it to the last in defence of Gondor and Rohan!' Then some being shamed by his mercy overcame their fear and went on, and the others took new hope, hearing of a manful deed within their measure that they could turn to, and they departed.
The Return of the King | JRR Tolkien
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warrioreowynofrohan · 9 months
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Favourite Female Tolkien Character Poll - Round 1, Match 27
Morwen Steelsheen
The mother of Théoden, and of two daughters (one older than him and one younger). She was from Lossarnach in Gondor, and was seventeen years younger than her husband Thengel.
Éowyn was slender and tall, with a grace and pride that came to her out of the South from Morwen of Lossarnach, whom the Rohirrim had called Steelsheen.
Théodwyn
The youngest daughter of Morwen Steelsheen and Thengel, Théodwyn was the mother of Éomer and Éowyn; she died of illness when they were children, not long after her husband Éomund was killed in battle.
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