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clan--of3 · 17 days
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BobaCobb WIP - season 2 episode 1 Mandolorian deleted scene, a case of mistaken identity
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Cobb had laid the beskar'gam out, as he'd learned from watching Boba treat the armor.
"You knew the man who wore this armor before you?" The Mandalorian asked.
Cobb nodded.
"Did you-" Mando's helmet turned from the pile of beskar'gam to Cobb's blaster still at his hip.
"No - Kriff, no. Fett died in a fight with a Jedi," Cobb raised his hands away from his blaster, shaking his head, "He was a bounty hunter, like you, just got mixed up with the wrong side of things. He's been dead a long time.
The Mandalorian nodded, he had heard of Jango Fett - the traitor Mando'ad who had fathered the clones and who had been killed by the Jetti before the fall of Mandalore. The Armorer had made their clans stance on the Buir Tat'adat quite clear, "How did you come across his armor?"
"Jawas had it, no idea where they got it - don't even think they knew what they had. Traded a crate of silicax for it, feel like it was worth a helluva lot more than that," Cobb huffed a half laugh.
Mando was quiet for a while after that, laid out on his back with the kid tucked under his arm. He'd made no move to take off his armor, not even his gloves as Boba had on their first few evenings together. And just as Cobb had thought he'd fallen asleep, he spoke quietly, "Would you consider taking the Creed?"
Cobb blinked, the Mandalorian didn't need to elaborate beyond that - Cobb knew what he meant, "No offense, but I was told you were all dead…"
Mando made a soft noise, somewhere between a laugh and a sigh, his vocoder muffling the sound.
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I get that there were books that people valued but honestly mando clones always felt so shoehorned. Jango was adopted, so genetics don’t really apply. Sure in legends he trained the clones, but they don’t have beskar armor passed down, they don’t have many cultural touchstones. Like I adore the Jedi, but if you gave me a story about non-force sensitives with no lightsabers trained by the Jedi and said they were Jedi I’d be disappointed to not get a Jedi story and that they wasted a cool concept
This has got to be my new record for how long it's taken me to answer an ask xD
I mean, in the movies/shows it's not even particularly obvious that Jango was the Clones' main instructor. In TCW there are mercenaries that were hired for that, and the Jedi send Shaak Ti to oversee the process, but there's no mention of this being a radical difference between the newer generations and the Clone 'veterans.' For all we know, mercenaries could have been involved from the start.
From what little we get in AotC, Jango really could just have been chilling on Kamino because it's safe and remote, and so the Kaminoans could have easy access to his DNA if need be. If he was regularly taking jobs for Dooku, like Padmé's assassination attempts, maybe he wasn't even on planet that consistently. I do think he was somewhat involved in the training, but a lot of it was probably automatized too (we see the Cadets training on computers) - and one dude alone obviously couldn't have been personally involved with all of the Clones' training. At the very least, it's not realistic to imagine that all three hundred thousand first gen Clones had regular interactions with him.
I wouldn't mind so much the case you described, but... that's not even what happened with the Clones. Nothing in the movies or the shows said "yeah, they're kinda Mandos," that was all supplemental material - because in the movies Jango himself wasn't actually supposed to be Mando. Mando armor wasn't that sacred cultural heritage yet, just some really good armor a skilled bounty hunter would be eager to get his hands on. But really, it's not even for any of these reasons that I mind the Mando!Clones fanon - I'm cool with Jango being in charge of their training and with being Mandalorian himself, by adoption or otherwise. What does annoy me is that Mando!Clones is made out to be a huge part of their identity when they were never written this way.
Rex and Boil had Mando symbols on their helmets as holdover from the early days of TCW when the writers were working a bit with the EU authors and drawing ideas from the EU. It never went beyond that and it all got scrapped by season 2 anyway, when they rewrote Mandalore entirely and TCW started to distance itself from the EU a lot more. Nothing else connects the Clones with the Mandos. I used to love the headcanon! But it's a headcanon, not something at the core of their characters. It's fanon, even.
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my-sun-m00n-and-stars · 11 months
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Finally - Jango x FemaleOC
Smut oneshot
This is an excerpt from my fic on AO3, but I thought I'd post this scene as a one-shot for all of the Jango girlies out there. OC is a bounty hunter doing undercover work in Death Watch for Jango.
Here's the link if you want to read the full series.
Kiara walked briskly through the darkness to the cave where Slave One  resided. She had to deliver the information while the images were still fresh in her mind. It had been easy to slip out of the camp at night. The real challenge had been extracting herself from Gar Saxon’s arms; he had had her in a vice grip.
The night chill did nothing to cool the blood pumping throughout her body or quell the heat that still resided between her legs. Saxon had been good, but not the best she had ever had. Her body burned for more.
She resolved to dissipate her arousal by maintaining a brisk pace through the forest. If she was quick she could deliver the information and be back in Saxon’s bed before the sun rose. 
She reached the cave a little over a half an hour later. To her dismay Bane was outside working on the ship’s hull. She was suddenly very conscious of the fact that she was wearing thin linen pajamas. It didn’t help either that she was still terribly horny.
“I have information,” she announced. He gave her an appraising look, taking in her appearance. He opened his mouth to respond but for some reason hesitated.
He tasted the air with his tongue. Her whole body went flush. The squint of his red eyes from under his hat stated plainly that he knew what she had been up to.
“Don’ tell it t’me. He’s inside,” Bane said dismissively. Eager to escape his scrutiny, Kiara eagerly climbed up the ramp into Slave One.
“Jango?” She called out.
She had never seen a ship's interior like it. Almost everything she saw was modified, down to the internal lighting systems. She could hardly even call it a Firespray class craft anymore.
I gotta tell the mandos to spruce the Dragonsbreath up a bit.
A door down the short hallway to the left slid open, and Jango stepped out, steam unfurling behind him. He was shirtless, with nothing but a towel wrapped around his waist. He must just taken a shower.
“You called?” He replied casually, rubbing his hair with a smaller towel, messing it. Kiara bit her lip.
“I–yes, I learned some information about the prisoners.” She cleared her throat. He nodded and swallowed, his throat bobbing up and down. She could have sworn that he looked her figure up and down. She did her best not to return the favor.
“Follow me.”
He turned and led her down a hallway deeper into the bowels of the ship. His bare back was exposed to her. It was broad, and well-muscled with pale scars littering his otherwise brown skin. He paused in front of a door and opened it for her, allowing her to enter the room first. 
She nearly stopped in her tracks. It was his private quarters. They were spartan, but unmistakably his. His armor rested on a display in the corner. Weapons and trinkets were everywhere, but it was all orderly and neat. A small holophoto sat on a cabinet next to his cot, a small boy with a very familiar face. 
“Your son,” she realized aloud. 
“Yes,” Jango chuckled in reply.
Kiara studied the picture, studied the boy's face.
“He looks just like you. You must be proud.”
“I am.”
Kiara looked away from the photo and smiled at Jango, who smiled back. But damn  it, he was still in that towel. She sharply inhaled and looked away from him. She pressed her thighs together. She needed to focus on business.
“Death Watch dealt with a zygerrian man by the name of Ashar Romar. But apparently the deal went sour. I was told that the man stole the prisoners away from Death Watch,” she detailed. Jango stroked his chin and sat on his cot, reclining against the wall. 
“Ashar Romar… never heard of him. But the prisoners being stolen away from Death Watch checks out. Despite their questionable tactics, Death Watch are still mandalorians, and I couldn’t see them selling their own people out,” he said. “Did you learn anything more?”
“Yes. I know what Romar looks like, I saw his face.” Kiara closed her eyes and imagined it again. 
“Excellent. How did you obtain this information?” He asked. Kiara opened her eyes and gave him a sly look.
“Let’s just say I took a bit of your advice, and a bit of Aurra’s.” 
“Maker help you, then.”
“It wasn’t so bad.” Kiara laughed. 
Jango smirked, and he looked over her attire a second time. She crossed her arms. “Getting cold there?” She asked with raised brows, nodding at his bare chest.
“I’m hot, actually,” he rebuffed. “Why? Does it make you uncomfortable?” He asked softly, standing up from his cot and approaching her. Her mouth ran dry. Her nipples stood pert against the constraints of her pajama shirt. She looked anywhere but at the behemoth of bare muscle before her.
“Not at all,” she croaked. She took a few paces backwards to put distance between them. He enclosed it again, and took it a step further by taking her chin between his thick fingers, forcing her to look at him. The heat in her body was nearly unbearable, sweat beginning to form on her brow and down her back. 
Jango had no shame or subtlety when he looked at her this time. His eyes locked onto her lips, before traveling south to take in the sight of her breasts bulging against the too-tight and too-thin shirt.
What the hell is happening?
“You seem a bit hot yourself in that stuffy clothing,” Jango commented, idly trailing his finger down from her chin to the collar of her shirt.
Alarms of every kind blared in Kiara’s mind. What about Zam? What about what Aurra told you? He’s your employer! 
The arousal between her legs was unbearable. Coherent thought became impossible. She looked up at him demurely through her lashes. It was all happening so fast.
It was his final straw. He took her by the shoulders and kissed her, hard. She met his lips earnestly, wrapping her arms around his neck. They didn’t waste time with soft kisses; within seconds their tongues were entwined, tasting each other’s mouth. He pushed her up against the wall, his arms dropping from her shoulders to her waist, pulling her tight against him, sandwiching her between his hot body and the cold metal wall.
Their lips broke apart and he began planting kisses along her jaw and down her neck, leaving a trail of fire behind him. She yelped and giggled when he nibbled at the sensitive spot just behind her ear. His hands roved up and down, back and forth across her waist and stomach, feeling the taut muscle.
“I’ve been waiting for this, cyar’ika,” he whispered into her ear.
“I know,” she replied with a breathy smile.
His hands traveled to the small of her back, and then lower as they continued to kiss again. He gripped her ass with his hands, feeling and kneading the squishy flesh through her linen pants, occasionally traveling even lower to grip her thighs. He groaned in appreciation into her lips. She fumbled with the tie just above her pelvis before dropping her pants to the ground, leaving her in only her shirt and underwear. 
His hands immediately gravitated to her crotch, but seemed to think better of it and instead gripped her hips. He grinded against the outside of her thigh, his erection barely contained by the loosening towel around his waist. She teased her fingers just around the top of the towel, tracing the V framing his pelvis, enjoying the feeling of his abdominals tightening in reflex. 
She took time to massage and feel every muscle on his body as she had longed to for so long. She had spent so many months imagining what was under the armor, and now she was finding out.
He broke apart from her again, and dug his fingers into the hem of her shirt. He looked into her eyes, breaths heavy, waiting. She nodded, and he wasted no time in pulling the shirt swiftly over her head. Her breasts bounced at liberty in their new freedom, and Jango took a moment to admire them, panting lightly.
Agonizingly slow, he took them into his hands and palmed them gently, flicking her sensitive nipples with his thumbs. It was too much for her; she blushed furiously, the red color traveling all the way to her chest.
Without warning he put one into his mouth, extracting a soft moan from her lips. As he swirled his tongue around her nipple he gave her other breast equal attention with his hand. Kiara leaned against the wall for support, relishing in the metal’s cooling effect.
In her hazy mind she found the initiative to pull the towel away from his waist, allowing it to fall to the floor. She couldn’t see his cock from her angle as his head was in the way, still focusing all of his attentions on her breasts. She opted instead to roam her hands down his back, giving his buttocks a faint squeeze as he sucked at her tits in earnest.
Finally he pulled himself away, and she was able to see his cock in its full glory. It was a bit longer than average, but thick. It pointed straight at her, pre cum dripping from the tip.
She sank to her knees before him. He smiled at her, and she smiled back, before taking him into her mouth. She took him in all the way to the hilt, eager to please. He hissed and braced himself with his arm on the wall behind her. She formed a suction with her lips, and then released him, excruciatingly slowly.
“Kriff,” he cursed. She repeated the movement several times, teasing him. “Have mercy on me, cyar’ika,” he laughed breathlessly, digging his fingers into her hair but not pushing. She hummed in amusement around his cock, earning another moan from him.
She began to bob her head more quickly, maintaining the suction seal around his member with her lips and swirling her tongue along the underside of his shaft before circling it around his tip, repeating the pattern. His grip in her hair tightened, and she braced herself against his thighs with her hands.
“Fuck, that’s it Kiara, use your mouth just like that,” he instructed, his voice becoming ragged. She obeyed, picking up the pace even faster, focusing on not activating her gag reflex as his tip brushed the back of her throat over and over.
I’m going to make you cum, Fett.
She could feel the muscles around his pelvis tightening, his breaths becoming shallower. With a grunt, he ripped himself from her mouth, leaving a trail of saliva between his tip and her mouth. He wiped it away.
“Don’t want the party to end before it starts, gorgeous,” he murmured huskily, tucking a strand of hair behind her ear. Kiara nodded, and took the hand he offered her to stand back up. She laughed as he pulled her straight up into the air into a bridal-style carry, setting her down on his cot a few paces away. He clambered over her immediately, his form hulking. He settled his gaze on her panties. To her embarrassment they were already clearly soaked-through. 
“Are you sure you want this?” He asked gently, thumbing over the waistband.
“I just had your cock in my mouth Jango, I think we’re past asking those questions.”
“I suppose I should return the favor then, eh?” He laughed in reply, before tugging her underwear down over her hips. She kicked them off. 
I’m so glad I shaved for Saxon.
He planted kisses on her face, before trailing them down her body, going down on her. He planted a kiss on her pelvis, before pulling her legs apart, baring her to him.
He licked a stripe all the way from her slit up to her clitoris. She bit her lip, propping herself up on her elbows to watch. He winked at her, before diving into her pussy mouth-first. 
She cried out as he attacked her clit with his tongue, circling it and flicking it from side to side. At the same time he sunk his index finger inside her, curling it back and forth against her G-spot. He continued different combinations of different moves, watching her form and her reactions closely.
Her whole body jolted at a particular moment where both his fingers and his tongue found just the right angles, pleasure shooting up her body.
“Just like that,” she moaned. He groaned in response into her cunt and continued his ministrations exactly as before, building a rhythm. A hot coil began to tighten in the pit of her stomach, slowly growing tighter and tighter. She balled the sheets in her fists, her knuckles white. He continued to maintain his movements, his eyes locked onto her face. Her breaths grew shallower, more rapid, a flush taking over her entire body, her toes curled and back arching—
Kiara cried out as she came, throwing her head back into the pillow. Jango lapped up her new juices eagerly in long strokes of his tongue. She came down from her high, twitching and jolting at his every touch of her sensitive sex.
Wiping his mouth on the back of his hand, he came to hover over her. She looked up at him, panting, sweat beading on her forehead. 
“You all right, Kiara?” He asked, stroking her locks of blonde hair. The way he said her name made her melt into the sheets. She ran her hands up his forearms, settling them on his biceps.
“I’m impatient, that’s what I am,” she breathed. He chuckled, and sat back on his haunches, directing his attention to their nether regions. He settled himself between her legs and threw each of them over his shoulders, planting a quick kiss on the inside of her calf. Cock in hand, he aligned himself with her entrance.
He rubbed the tip up and down her wet slit. She whined in anticipation, bucking her hips towards him. He pushed her hips down firmly, putting her in her place. 
“Behave now, cyar’ika.”
He pushed himself inside. Kiara gasped, adjusting rapidly to his girth. He growled in pleasure, hilting himself within her and resting for a few moments, steeling himself. He began to thrust, starting slow, allowing her to accustom to him, before picking up the pace. The angle with her legs on his shoulders was deeper than Kiara was used to. She bit her lip as he grew more vigorous, stretching her walls over and over again. 
He grasped her ample tits in his hands once more, holding on to them as they bounced with the movement. Her arms fell beside her head, becoming limp. 
For several minutes there was nothing but the sound of skin slapping skin and Kiara’s moans as Jango set a punishing pace, breathing hard, his gaze flitting between her face, her breasts, and the place where his cock met her pussy.
He leaned forward, her legs folding back and deepening the angle extremely as he settled onto his forearms, pressing into her body. Kiara grit her teeth as he hit a new place deep inside her that was both pleasurable and painful. He quickened his pace, pistoning in and out of her, chasing his high. He was moaning too now, a deep, lustful sound.
The sound triggered something within Kiara, and she could feel another orgasm building. She wrapped her legs around his waist and her arms around his neck, drawing him closer, deeper. He hit the same spot inside her over and over again, building the pressure within her.
It burst forth like a damn. She dug her nails into his back, stifling her scream in his shoulder. He spasmed and twitched as he pulled out just in time, his cum unfurling in spurts on her stomach. He let out one last groan as he did so, his head lolling down.
They breathed hard in silence, recovering. She grabbed him gently by the face and kissed him again. 
“That was a long time coming,” he sighed.
“It was,” she replied with a twinkle in her eye. Aurra be damned. Bane be damned.
“I’ll get you a towel,” he offered, extracting himself from her to retrieve one. She was sorry to have him leave her arms so soon, but cold hard realities were starting to crash in again
“I need to get back before sunrise, or I’ll be missed,” she stated, waiting patiently for his towel. She held out her hand for it when he returned, but he completed the job himself, wiping her clean. She sat up next to him on the cot, planting another kiss on his cheek.
Jango pulled her into his lap carefully, wrapping his arms around her waist a final time. They kissed passionately, but briefly.
“Until next time,” he promised her. She beamed at him, before starting to gather her clothes for her return back to camp.
Next time.
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Time is a social construct pt. 20
Mandalorian Time Travel AU
Summary: Din is trying his best, ok? But between trying to find a teacher for his magic kid and learning there were other Mandalorians who follow a different creed, Din is very confused and lost. So when he ends up on a plant that his HUD says is Manda’yaim and encounters two teens on the run from a group of dar’mandas called Death Watch, Din figures he may as well help them. He never meant to adopt them. Or become Mand’alor.
A/N: Italicized text is spoken in Mando'a.  
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           Din wasn’t one for politics- he lacked the patience for annoying people and had more of a ‘shot first, talk later’ policy. So Din was justifiably confused when, the day after Fett woke up, one of the advisors approached him in between meetings with Jango, Satine, and her new council. She was one of the younger advisors, probably about Jangos’ age, and she had a brave face on when walking up to Din.
         “Hi?” Din said, more question in the word than he meant to have.
         “Hello,” the girl greeted cheerfully. “My name is Ashon, and I was hoping you would be willing to help me.”
         Din was fairly certain Ashon was a New Mandalorian; there was not a hint of armor on the girl. So she probably wasn’t going to try to hire him for a job. “Uh, sure.”
         “Great!”  Ashon held her hand out, giving Din a datastick. Tentatively, Din took it. “I was hoping you’d look over my suggestions on integrating the True and New Mandalorians in our education systems. I would appreciate your feedback on how you think we should work with the more traditionalist groups!” Din was nodding along even though his confusion hadn’t gone away. “You can take your time; I shouldn’t need it before the end of the week.”
         Ashon was gone before Din could question her on why she thought Din would know anything about what should be taught in schools.
         Someone cleared their throat at the end of the hall, and Din snapped his head over to see Jinn standing serenely. The man had a slight smirk on his face. “Making a move into politics, Mando?”
         “No?” Din looked down at the datastick in his hand before putting it in his belt, resolving to look at it later. “No. Just helping.”
         Jinn hummed. “You do have a way with younger individuals. The Duchess and her sister do look up to you.”
         Din shrugged sheepishly. “I don’t do anything special.”
         “A natural talent, then,” Jinn concluded. “However, I would like to discuss something with you.”
         “Ok?”
         Jinn folded his hands in his incredibly impracticable cloak. “It won’t take much of your time.” Jinn swept an arm towards one of the empty meeting rooms.
         Din followed the man in, sitting across from Jinn at the table. Din awkwardly fiddled with his hands before resting them on his thighs. Jinn was still smiling, but he looked more serious.
         “Obi-wan speaks highly of you, and I cannot express my gratitude enough to you for being with him and the Duchess when I could not be. You had no incentive to help them as you did and continue to do.”
         “They were alone, being attacked, and couldn’t fully defend themselves. Any good Mandalorian would’ve helped,” Din countered. The way Jinn was speaking made Din sound like some selfless hero. Din was just a Mandalorian bounty hunter that was trying to get his magic kid a teacher and had ended up way out of his depth.
         “The galaxy could use more people with that line of thinking,” Jinn said with a tone of finality. This wasn’t what the Jedi had wanted to talk to Din about. So Din hummed, waiting for Jinn to continue. “Regardless, as you probably already know, there is something else I wish to speak to you about.”
         Din wished he had Grogu or another one of the kids here with him. Any excuse to get out of this conversation.
         Jinn cleared his throat, resting his hands on the table before him. “What do you know of the Jedi code?”
         Din tipped his head to the side as he remembered some of the things he’d been told. “You use the Force, and you help people. Uh, Obi-wan mentioned something about emotions with his meditation.”
         Jinn smiled, so Din figured he’d hit upon some point the man was looking for. “Ah yes, negative emotions like fear and hate negatively impact anyone, but a Force user is susceptible. Such emotions- and attachments- can lead to the-“
         “Dark side?” Din guessed, remembering his conversation with Ahsoka Tano. Din would admit he didn’t fully understand the whole thing; how could the fact that Grogu saw him as a father lead to terrible things? Sure, the kid had choked a few people when he thought Din was in danger, but wasn’t that all the more reason to teach Grogu not to do that? Jinn looked moderately surprised that Din knew what he was talking about. “Before we got here, I had found one of the last Jedi. She wouldn’t teach Grogu because, apparently, he was attached to me.” Din shrugged. “She said she knew someone whose anger had led to the dark side, and it wasn’t good.”
         “And yet you still searched for a teacher?” Jinn asked, a slight frown on his face.
         “I want Grogu to know how to protect himself,” Din explained. “Both physically and from your dark side.”
         “Yet you no longer are searching for someone to teach him to be a Jedi?”
         “From my understanding,” Din said dryly, “That’s not possible since I adopted him officially. Am I wrong?”
         Din didn’t know why Jinn looked so confused, but he was content to let the man puzzle out whatever he was thinking. Din didn’t need to justify his parenting- for someone who never intended to become a buir, much less one to a magic kid; Din thought he was doing pretty good.
         Eventually, Jinn nodded. “Yes, that is right.” Jinn shook his head lightly. “I am afraid I got off topic, apologizes. I did want to discuss attachments with you. But not in concerns to Grogu.” Din had a sinking feeling he knew where this was going. But he stayed quiet and motioned for Jinn to continue. “It had come to my intention that recently you, however unintentionally, have become something of a father figure to the Kryze sisters.” Din nodded in agreement, helmet hiding his bashfulness. “And perhaps, even for my Padawan.”
         Yeah, ok. Din was getting some type of shovel talk from Jinn. Great. Just what he wanted with his day. Still, Din nodded again.
         Jinn tried for a kind smile. “I am glad Obi-wan has found himself comfortable with you. It is something he has…struggled with in the past. And yet…”
         “You’re worried he’s going to get attached to me?” Din asked, tired of Jinn talking around his point. Jinn winced slightly, so Din decided to go in for the kill. “Because I’ve been teaching him Mando’a and Mandalorian culture. Because he tells me more than he tells you?”
         Din wasn’t stupid. He was, by nature and profession, very observant. He had seen Jinn trying to hide scowls when Obi-wan had gone to Din for advice. Seen the way Jinn hesitated to leave Obi-wan alone with Din and how the man had been coming up with more and more tasks to keep Obi-wan occupied.
         “You must understand, I am only worried for my Padawan,” Jinn said, sounding a little strained. “He has struggled with anger and attachment. I only want what is best for him.”
         “Have you told Obi-wan that?” Din asked, annoyance seeping into his voice. “Instead of trying to scare me off, potentially upsetting Obi-wan in the process, have you tried talking to Obi-wan about your concerns?” Jinn gapped, mouth moving, but no words came out. Din nodded with finality. “Great. Let me know how that goes. Now, I have a meeting to get to.”
         With that, Din got up and left the room, leaving Jinn behind. Din allowed himself a moment in the hallway to clear his thoughts before heading to the meeting room. Din wasn’t the first one back. Jango was in his seat, and Silas (who had been the man’s shadow) was nowhere to be seen. Din quietly took his seat. Thankfully, it wasn’t at the main table but instead off to the side of Satine’s seat. She’d refused to let Din stand the entire meeting.
            Din and Jango didn't speak for a few minutes. Jango looked content to stare up at the ceiling with a thoughtful look on his face. So Din was a little shocked when the man spoke. “ My buir was preparing me to take his place as ruler . But he was killed far before I was ready .” Jango turned to look at Din. “ And yet people insist on pulling me into politics I don’t understand.”
         “I know the feeling,” Din said, thinking of the datastick in his pocket.
         Jango sighed, looking away from Din. Quietly, he said, “I don’t hate Kr- Satine. I actually think she’s doing a good job, all things considered. I thought she was a radical New Mandalorian. That’s why I was rude. But she keeps asking me about the Resol’nare and its interpretations.”
         “When I met her, she was more radical,” Din said after a moment. “Her Coruscant education opened her up to these beliefs, but she was willing to learn and change.”
         Jango let out of soft breath. “Guess I should try that too, huh?”
         “It could help. I hear politics is about compromise.” Well, that was one of the kinder things about politics he’s heard. “Have you tried talking to Satine about it?” That seemed to be a theme for today. What is it with these people not talking to each other? Even Din, who isn’t known for his love of talking, could see that as the easy solution.
         “Tell that to Almec,” Jango muttered in basic. Din could understand the sentiment. The man, while loyal to Satine, got on his nerves.
         “You’re outnumbered,” Din said instead of his more unpleasant thoughts. “You and Silas are putting up a good fight, and Satine is a good mediator. But you need more people on your side. Maybe even more traditionalists. That way, you know everyone is heard.”
         Jango grimaced. “Can’t you be the traditionalist's voice? Bringing them in here will result in more yelling.”
         “I’m from the future,” Din helpfully reminded him. “Current affairs and concerns aren't something I know.”
         Jango sighed and agreed. “I’ll ask Silas-“
         The door to the room opened, and Silas and Satine entered. “Ask Silas what?”
         “If any of the older families would be interested in sending a representative.”
         Silas nodded. “I can think of a few. Wren, for starters.”
         Satine smiled. “That’s a good idea, Jango. Let me know who agrees, and I can arrange a place for them to stay if needed.”
         The conversation faded as more people re-entered the room. Satine had taken her seat but leaned over to whisper to Din. “Any reason I saw Master Jinn exiting a meeting room, looking shell-shocked?”
         Din shook his head and tried for an exasperated tone. “Jetii and their communication issues.”
         Satine smirked. “Too true. Just like you and your adoption issues. Which is-”
         “Something we should probably talk about. Yeah.” Din nodded. Satine smiled again, softer this time. Someone called for her attention, and Din let himself lean back slightly in his chair.
         The Kryze sisters had just lost their buir, and Din had no idea how they’d feel about Din accidentally taking that position. Bo-Katan had been silent at first meal, glancing at Din when she thought he wasn’t looking. Satine hadn’t made much mention of it since Din had admitted to her that ‘ade’ to him encompassed more than Bo-Katan. Din remembered after his parents died, he hadn’t called his buir ‘buir’ for months. There had never been a push for it, but Din had struggled with that trauma. On the flip side, Din knew kids entering the covert that took to their new buir like fire, even after losing their parents. Case by case situation if Din had to guess. Maybe he’d look it up. It couldn’t hurt to be prepared. Din’s to-do list was growing rapidly.
Talk to Obi-wan about the slave thing (and the Jinn thing too)
Read Ashon’s proposals
Look up how to parent traumatized kids
Stop the genocide of the Mandalorians and Jetii.
And preferably the Clone Wars too
         Easy enough. But he had to get through this meeting first, starting off strong with Almec trying to make a case for why architecture was a better purpose for beskar. Funnily enough, it was not a popular suggestion, even among some New Mandalorians.
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Anything you want to/can share about Kythaa? Her armour is really cool!
Okay so I've never actually shared any info on OCs before but I'm in love with Kythaa so..
*cracks knuckles*
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(art by my friend her design has changed slightly since then)
Kythaa Sapp was born in 59 BBY. Her biological parents were running some unfortunate business and had accrued a bounty and had been smuggling goods to Deathwatch. Enter Ariatt Senaar, Haat Mando'ad from Concord Dawn (in my mind dream cast as Karl Urban lol).
--aside: I've been working on Ariatt as an OC as well- his clan name Senaar comes from a family history in times past of falconry, hunting game through the farms and fields of Concord Dawn.
When Ariatt tracks down the Sapps to Hoth, he's disappointed to find them already dead, though their 3 yo child stands fiercely protecting their half frozen bodies in a deep cave, nestled between 2 tauntauns for warmth.
Kythaa becomes Ariatt's foundling. 2 years later, Jaster Mareel is betrayed and dies. Kythaa never really got to know him as Mand'alor, but her Buir is very loyal to Jango. Her training and eventual verd'goten took place under his leadership and Jango was one of the ones who shared a drink with her upon completion of her verd'goten. She's raised amongst the remaining True Mandalorians and works alongside them and her Buir as she grows into her own.
Then Galidraan happens. Though legally an adult, Ky is not there, instead on a hunt related to her biological parents. She refuses to accompany her Buir in support of Jango due to her tunnel vision on finding information on the Sapps. She and her Buir have a nasty fight regarding it before he leaves for Galidraan. He doesn't fully renounce her as a Mandalorian but he does mention that if she's not going to follow the resol'nare regarding coming to the call of the Mand'alor, then maybe he's dar'buir after all.
Kythaa never gets the chance to reconcile with him as every Mando aside from Jango dies at the hands of the Jedi. She doesn't realize that anyone survived. Disgusted with herself, she repaints her armor to the current colors of grey for loss of family, teal for healing, and white for a new start, with red to honor her fallen Buir as well as the Mand'alor she failed.
--another aside- Kythaa's knee armor is very specifically grey and red so that every time she kneels she is saying "Ni ceta" to her Buir and her Mand'alor.
When Jango calls for volunteers to become the cuy'val dar, Kythaa is shocked he still lives. She of course knew of someone calling themselves Jango Fett rising to be the top bounty hunter, but she refused to believe it was him. She tries to join them on Kamino, but Jango refuses her. He harshly says it's because she can't be trusted after failing to follow him to Galidraan, but actually it's that she reminds him of his greatest failure and he can't face his guilt at facing her every day regarding Ariatt's death.
So she continues her work as a disillusioned bounty hunter, wearing her armor but having a tough relationship with her identity as a Mandalorian. She doesn't get to reconcile with Jango either before his death on Geonosis and the start of the clone war. But then, damn, suddenly there's millions of little Jango's running around so that any time she crosses path with the GAR, she's reminded of her own failures. Doesn't help that all the little Jango's are reporting to Jedi which feels perverse and wrong.
Uhhhhh... This went longer than I anticipated lol. I've never written it all down before. I don't really have much planned for her remaining life, like her involvement in the clone war, besides her eventually meeting Kal Skirata and him helping her deal with all her trauma thru his sheer power of being a good dad. I imagine if she ever came across him in her life of hunting she'd probably have a very strained relationship with Boba as well.
But yeah, that's Kythaa. I'm excited to do more with her and her Buir. Probably going to be running a DND style campaign with her with a couple of my friends lol.
If anyone read all of this, wow, thank u hahahaha.
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(my own very rough ref sheet for Kythaa)
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tonkialert · 2 years
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(Djarin, for example, is a foundling who was adopted and raised into Mandalorian culture.) As the first person to wear what is now recognized as Mandalorian armor in “Star Wars,” Boba Fett ran ahead of the franchise’s establishment of Mandalorian culture - and, complicating matters further, Jango’s changing back stories have gone back and forth over the years as to whether he’s actually Mandalorian. Sometime after surviving his close encounter with the sarlacc pit, Fett approaches Mandalorian Din Djarin (Pedro Pascal) to reclaim his armor, which he inherited from his father, during the second season of “The Mandalorian.”ĭuring his adventure with Mando, Fett clears up one key detail fans have long wondered: Is he Mandalorian, or does he just wear Mandalorian armor?Īccording to Fett, his father Jango was given his armor by Mandalorians, raising the question of whether that makes Jango, and by extension Boba, Mandalorian or not. While details remain sparse, it’s shown that he goes back to being a bounty hunter once he’s free. After he fails, he is captured and sent to a detention facility. He’s seen cradling his father’s helmet in the aftermath.īoba’s story was expanded further in a handful of episodes of the animated “Star Wars: The Clone Wars.” After joining up with a crew of bounty hunters, a young Boba infiltrates a Republic vessel in the guise of a young clone cadet in order to avenge his father. He was created in exchange for the donated genetic material, for Jango to raise as his own.īut bounty hunting is a dangerous life, and young Boba (Daniel Logan) watched his father be killed by Jedi master Mace Windu during a battle that led to the Clone Wars. It turns out Boba is an unaltered Jango clone - meaning the scientists who created him did not modify him in any way, unlike the clone soldiers who were created with different enhancements. “The Mandalorian” follows in the “Star Wars” franchise’s grand tradition: The premiere is action-packed and predictable in equal measure.Īlthough Fett’s mystery was part of the bounty hunter’s original appeal, Fett’s official back story was revealed during the prequel trilogy in 2002’s “Attack of the Clones.” The second installment of the prequel trilogy introduces Boba’s father, Jango Fett (Morrison), a bounty hunter who was used as the template for the clone soldiers of the then-Republic’s army. Television Review: ‘The Mandalorian’ is ‘Star Wars’ to the core: a safe, entertaining blockbuster His appearance in “The Mandalorian” proves otherwise. When Luke comes to Han’s rescue, Fett is (accidentally) knocked into the giant mouth of a sarlacc in a sand pit and is assumed to have perished. (“Empire Strikes Back” assistant film editor Duwayne Dunham was the person under the Fett armor in the parade.)Īfter “The Empire Strikes Back,” the bounty hunter returned briefly in “Return of the Jedi,” where he is still in Jabba’s circle. The short sees a much chattier Fett befriend Luke Skywalker after saving him and his droids, only to be revealed as working for Darth Vader.īut Fett’s first public appearance came shortly before this, when the character walked in a local parade in San Anselmo, Calif., with Darth Vader, in September 1978. Budgetary constraints led Lucas to reconceptualize the character as a lone bounty hunter, and the original all-white version of his iconic armor was transformed into the one we recognize today.įett’s public debut came a couple of years before he was seen in “The Empire Strikes Back.” His first onscreen appearance was on television in an animated segment that aired as part of the notorious “ Star Wars Holiday Special” on Nov. Fett’s cult status means that much of the lore around his conception and introduction is as well-known among “Star Wars” fans as the character’s in-universe back story.Ĭonceived by “Star Wars” mastermind George Lucas as new type of super trooper to be introduced in “Empire Strikes Back,” Fett was designed by the film’s art director (and future filmmaker) Joe Johnston and concept artist Ralph McQuarrie.
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cienie-isengardu · 6 years
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Satine Kryze and Pre Vizsla: political & social position
Puttings aside for now morality of characters, I would like to talk about similarities and difference between Satine Kryze and Pre Vizsla and how they could be seen by New Mandalorian society at the climax of their respective arcs.
First thing though: I want to clarify something: as much as TCW may never outright said anything about  Dral'Han (Annihilation) / Mandalorian Excision that happened ~700 years prior to Clone Wars era, this event played a major role in shaping current mandalorian society - or more precisely: two societies: the pacifist and warlike. The Republic occupation and influence still held power over Mandalore, to the point that when Duchess cemented neutrality for her people, soon after that trade routes were closed around Mandalore system - even though the war did not come there yet(?) - what was mentioned in “Corruption” [s03e05]: “Desperate times on Mandalore! Having won neutrality for the Mandalorian system, Duchess Satine now finds herself an outsider with little aid to her people. Supplies are impossible to come by, except on the black market. As a result, the Duchess faces a world consumed by greed.” So, TCW may not discuss in direct way how Republic screwed up Mandalore in the past nor how it mixed into matters of “independent” government now, but it doesn’t make  Republic occupation and its effect on characters any less real.
Saying that, there is the first detail about Satine and Pre I want to talk: political & social position.
The Legends Mandalorian had visible social groups including: Mandalore(s), veterans, warriors, blacksmiths, farmers [and in the case of ancient Taungs, shamans], yet the division between “classes” was not rigid. Mandalorian could be both farmer and great warrior. The title Mandalore was reserved for the best, most skilled, most charismatic and/or the most supported by society person. The status of Mandalorian was either given by birth or by adoption, person could be disavow and/or became dar’manda (no longer Mandalorian) and reclaim the right to mandalorian culture later. People could belong to one of the oldest clans (Vizsla, Ordo, Fett) or be not associated with any family and there wasn’t social class difference between them because all have the same rights (f.e. challenging Mandalore/leader if they did not agree with their decisions) & duties (Resol’nare). In reality, how great of Mandalorian someone was never depended on birth rights or personal connection, but what kind of person he/she/them are.
In other words, Legends Mandalorian did not have aristocracy similar to the ones of Core Worlds (as in: the highest class in society, especially those holding hereditary titles or offices).
The New Mandalorians apparently are closer to Core Worlders / Republic than to the old traditions since Satine is titled the Duchess, Tal Merrik is called Prince [s02e13] and both were born on Kalevala (according to TCW Character Encyclopedia). The animated series made it pretty clear that Satine’s power is similar to the king/queen-like:
on Sundari - the capital city of Mandalore - Duchess has palace that was presented to some extent on the screen and mentioned in the show (“I told senator Amidala that Mandalore was not part of the War, yet here I find a battle in my own palace” [s03e05])
in said palace there is Throne Room where she occupies a central place (throne) even in the present of close allies & friends
she is constantly called “Lady”, “your Grace” and “your Highness” which emphasizes her aristocratic connection/roots and
has power over Ruling Council (“Corruption” episode showed Satine on her throne above seats of Ministers, including Almec, silencing them for good and calling the meeting adjourned.)
There is of course Prime Minister (that according to “The Academy” episode is one of “two people in charge” of Mandalore albeit I’m not sure if we saw Almec making any important political decision without Duchess’ contest - beside the whole illegal business & coup, of course and ignoring Satine’s angry rant about corruption) and mentioned Ruling Council to support Duchess with their advices. Unfortunately, during the Clone Wars, there is little use of Council due to corruption, apathy and bickering between Ministers / leaders of Mandalore. The only real decision / action that Ruling Council did worth to mention was asking Obi-Wan Kenobi (Republic) to provide protection for Duchess during “Voyage of Temptation”.
The Death Watch Manifesto (from Bounty Hunter Code ) - a pro-DW propaganda source, mind you - claims that Mandalorian clans became divided after Mandalorian Excision to the point that even the oldest clans had their members on both sides of cultural conflict. That concerns Kryze family as well Vizsla clan.
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The politically / culturally conflict overlaps with clan rivalry that has been going on for a long time. In short, the situation of Mandalorians is complicated and far from reconciliation, even in the face of threat from the Republic & Jedi.
The source did not explain in much details how the power was passed down through the generations but since the “Faithless” rulers of New Mandalorians are accused of being a puppet government headed by Republic, there is a chance that those families who are now treated as nobility may got the aristocratic titles (and wealth) from Republic itself - as a reward for joining “the right” political system. Then again, the same source claims that Satine’s father was a warlord who actually sent her off-world:
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According to TCW Character Encyclopedia, Satine was born on Kalevala, a planet known for expensive wines, ships and rich cloth and so far a place the most related to New Mandalorian’s nobility. We may only guess if the union (possible marriage) between warlord and Satine’s mother was a political move to connect two influential and wealthy clans or was that dictated by purely romantic motives. Nevertheless, only Satine’s father is described as mighty mandalorian warrior - and that rises some questions. We aren’t told why he sent his child offword… or what offword we are talking here, really. Satine’s homeworld was Kalevala, but she was on Mandalore while being protected by Jedi, does that means her father sent her there? Was he somehow forced to do so? And if yes, by whom? Satine’s mother? Republic? Other mandalorian warlords who wanted more power for themselves? And if Satine’s father, as one of Faithful Mandalorian maybe, wanted independence for Mandalore system - thus became a threat to Republic - Jedi arrival on Mandalore to protect (take away) Satine may not be motivated by her own safety but to secure A) the submission of the current ruler (with daughter as “hostage” in Game of Thrones style, similar to how Eddard Stark took young Theon Greyjoy as his ward) and B)  loyalty of the successor to the throne. I know that sound awful but to be fair, Jedi rarely integrate into internal government matters if there is no profit for the Republic.
I’m not sure if Satine talked in more detailed way about the year on the run under Jedi protection (beside mention of venom-mites on Draboon that seems to be a whole different planet in Mandalore sector). So let’s see what Obi-Wan told us about their time together:
An extended mission when i was younger. Master Qui-Gon and I spent a year on Mandalore protecting the Duchess from insurgents who had threatened her world. They sent Bounty Hunters after us. We were always on the run, living hand-to-mouth, never sure what the next day would bring [...] A civil war killed most of Satine's people, hence her aversion to violence. When she returned, she took rebuilding her world alone.
Satine was born on Kalevala, so…by “her world” does Obi-Wan meant a whole Mandalore system or Kalevala or Mandalore on which they were at that time? Also, since BHC confirmed that there was Civil War in which Faithful warriors (DW) wanted to take control over Mandalore, I don’t really understand why insurgents - the warriors - would hire bounty hunters? I mean, I know they were outnumbered and all, but frankly, we aren’t even told if the bounty hunters were to kill Satine or just to take her away from Jedi (the oppressors).
Nevertheless, we learn that Civil War killed most of Satine's people - what once again is pretty ambiguous, because did Obi-Wan mean Satine’s family and/or people from homeworld or did he mean Mandalorians as a whole? Because if the letter, that presents Satine as a hereditary ruler. Especially with the line “When she returned, she took rebuilding her world alone”. BHC mentioned that her father died during Civil War and if she was the oldest child, should inherit the throne. Since there is no info if she needed to fight for the title of Duchess of Mandalore (she returned and started rebuilding her world without asking anyone about opinion apparently), for me it seems Satine was born not only in aristocratic (wealthy) family but was designed to rule Mandalore sometime in future. Frankly, the same can be said for her nephew, Korkie, who is already in Royal Academy that is to educate future government leaders.
We may not know much about Satine Kryze’s past, but The Clone Wars animated series and tie-in sources present her as wealthy nobility with royal-like power over Mandalore (and maybe Kalevala). She wears rich clothes that emphasize her high status, has own palace with Throne Room and uses luxury spaceliner. She is the person that made decision to turn New Mandalorians into extreme(?) pacifists due to her personal childhood trauma & aversion to violence. Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t see her as someone who was democratically elected leader.
In short, Satine Kryze had a high social rank and political position for majority of TCW storyline.
Pre Vizsla’s history is no less covered by mystery.
We know he held the office of governor on Concordia while some members of the Vizsla clan were known to be part of Death Watch. Including Tor Vizsla, a previous leader of said group who spent some years fighting against Mereel’s (and later, Jango Fett’s) True Mandalorians. For all we know, Tor and Pre may actively working at the same time for a few years (albeit not for too long, since Tor died two years after Battle of Galidraan / Mandalore Civil War and +/- two decades before Clone Wars)
Satine have seen Pre as a close ally and maybe even a friend, who the same as her choose pacifistic ideology over violent past. Who was supposed to help her hunt down the remnants of Death Watch / the opposition of her reign. We know it never was a case.
But there is more questionable matters to talk. The Mandalore’s Moon was described as “Province with its own governor” and starwars.com added that Concordia is independent of Mandalore’s government:
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In other words, Pre as governor of Concordia was NOT under the authority of the Duchess. What makes them more or less equal on political ground. BUT! TCW Character Encyclopedia and Visual Guide: New Battlefronts both stated that Pre was born on Mandalore. Which raises a question, how he ended as a leader of independent from Mandalore province? Duchess Satine couldn’t nominate him as her representative nor force Concordian people to vote for / accept Pre, could she? I’m not be specialist of such matters, but shouldn’t governor actually have a citizenship to be even elected to office?
Of course, Pre may simple moved to Concordia at some point, but frankly, wouldn’t be that a bit suspicious? Almec said once “All of our warriors were exiled to our moon, Concordia. They died out years ago”  and with that statement it’s easy to imagine that from the perspective of the pacifist society, the Mandalore’s Moon is marked as a bad place (natural prison and/or graveyard full of angry, bitter “barbarians”) and with Pre’s family connection to Tor & Death Watch, I think a sudden desire to move there could arouse unwanted interest in him and thus undermine the whole infiltration mission.
There is a different option:
BHC too mentioned that “some of [DW] warriors were exiled to the moon Concordia”. Some slipped away, but I don’t think that happened to Pre, per se. Basing on Legends sources, Mandalore Civil War started in the same year as Battle of Galidraan (44 BBY). From my calculation  it seems Obi-Wan would be 13 years old at that time. There is no information about age of Satine & Pre, but we know Duchess couldn’t be that older than Kenobi. Similar, Pre as the successor of Tor most likely is around the same age as Satine & Obi-Wan. Maybe a bit older, maybe a bit younger, but enough close to be seen as ‘innocent” in the conflict.
If young Pre took part in the fight and were imprisoned, it’s easy to blame Vizsla clan for forcing a child into war zone. If Pre was exiled on Concordia, he could pass later as converted man who after years understood the error of his youth & madness of Death Watch’s ideology.
If Pre did not participate in war (due to young age), but his family did and get caught, he most likely was exiled to Concordia with them. Because what else New Mandalorians could do in such situation? Keep a child from parents (clan) and try reeducated him into pacifist society? Put in orphanage for difficult youth? How many of other kids could be in similar situation? How much more Death Watch / exiled warriors would fight harder to get back their children, to tear them out of New Mandalorian hands? The society under Satine’s new rule may not mean any harm to the children forcibly taken away from their family, but if there is one thing that mandalorian warriors hate, really hate, is when someone dare to threaten their kids. This is like asking for absolute war like nothing else.
There is also one more major factor why I think this scenario is plausible, regardless of whether Pre was exiled for a fight or not. It gives him a good “tragic story” that create a common ground between him and Satine and explain why a man born on Mandalore ended as governor of independent province (though I still not sure how New Mandalorians could exile warriors from Mandalore to Concordia, if they seem to not have jurisdiction over the Moon. Unless Concordia is a really new province, built by exiled there people?)
The “tragic story” most likely include things that Satine can relate to, like childhood trauma, growing up in dangerous times (uncertainty of tomorrow), the loss of family & the pressure to rebuild things anew. The similar experiences of how senseless violence destroyed life, how much one suffered because of war for sure could bring Satine & Pre closer to each other. Or more precisely: makes Satine to trust a “converted man” like Pre Vizsla whose ambition was to clean the name of his clan - just not in the way Satine’s imagined.
There is also one more aspect to think about exiled Mandalorians. If only warriors were sent there, I think Satine’s government could have worse relationship with Concordia. The anger at taking away their children would last for long. But if after Civil War the population sent there also included children (and disabled and elderly people), for their own sake alone some family members would be forced to change their lifestyle. After all, children need to be fed, provide with medical care, access to education and safety to grown up. Maybe at some point exiled people managed to either build their own city and establish commercial and political relations with Mandalore or get involved with indigenous people (farmers and miners?) and adopted to their (less violent) customs.
Of course, this is just one of possible explanations. We aren’t told how and when Satine met Pre or why she had him in so high esteem for so long - beside that he was helping her in catching remnants of Death Watch (the opposition of her rule). We only know that both were leaders of their respectively governments that worked independently, albeit thanks to their (supposed) friendship, Mandalore and Concordia seemed to cooperate with each other over the years.
At the same time, only Satine holds aristocratic title and most likely inherited the right to rule of Mandalore either from father or mother; what may explain why Jedi were sent to protect her in the first place. While according to TCW Visual Guide: New Battlefronts, Pre somehow earned his position.
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Frankly, as a member of Vizsla clan, Pre probably met with some resistance or suspicion from both sides. From pacifists due to what Tor Vizsla did over the years and from Mandalorians adhering to the old rules (who at the earliest stages of rebuilding DW could not know what Pre’s true intention really is) for betraying them. Thinking about it, one of Jango Fett’s (in-universe) commentary written on DW Manifesto actually makes clear that Jango not only was aware of Pre Vizsla’s existence but also knew or maybe even heard some of his (political?) speeches:
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From picture: I wonder if Vizsla really wrote this. He was a thug. Sounds more like Priest or Reau. Maybe the younger Vizsla. That one likes speeches. [Jango]
(In all fairness, I agree with Jango, the Death Watch Manifesto doesn’t sound like something Tor Vizsla would write. It fits more Pre, really. But it is interesting that Jango had access at some point of time to DW secret book yet did not act against Pre as far as we know. And Jango had a long list of reasons to hate Death Watch. Then again, Priest and Reau were recruited by Fett to train clone troopers yet they share similar ideology to DW… so maybe Jango just get to the point he didn’t care anymore about Mandalore and its politics?)
Sorry, I digress.
Backing to the main topic, Satine and Pre both have high position in Mandalorian society. Both are burdened with responsibilities for their people (and ideology). The main difference is that, Pre most likely was forced to earn his leader position - the political and in Death Watch while Satine presumably was meant from the birth to be either ruler of Mandalore (or Kalevala) or one of its influential leaders (similar like Korkie is destined to grow up as one of future leaders by Royal Academy teaching program). The other more visible difference is that Duchess’ politics affect hundreds of worlds that also want to remain neutral in current military conflict while Pre’s political activities are focused primarily on internal affairs of Mandalore system (“hunting down Satine’s opposition / DW”, bringing Mandalorian back to their warrior roots). Also, I dare to say Satine’s political position was more certain due to having powerful allies & friends in Republic Senate (Padme Amidala, most likely Bail Organa)  and Jedi Order (Obi-Wan Kenobi who actually is one of Council members), while the current leader of Death Watch by long time couldn’t openly act, and later his cooperation with Dooku/Separatist turned out to be one big fiasco.
And yet, the more time passed, Satine’s political & social position was undermined by widespread corruption on Mandalore while society’s perception of Pre and his Death Watch changed for better at the same time.
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kybervisions · 3 years
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from a past life [boba]
summary: boba fett reminds a former jedi knight of old friends.   
author’s note: ifjkdfms,ds idea popped into my brain and thought it’d be a nice and short angsty one shot,, this for all my clones simps,, basically reader fought in the clone wars and fell in love with a clone and seeing boba makes her emotional 
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When Boba Fett removed the hood and demanded the armor Din had taken from Cobb Vanth, it triggered memories of a different time. A much simpler time. Oh, how you longed for it. Memories flooded back in your mind and caused you to freeze. The “simple man making his way through the galaxy” had the face of an old friend. 
During the fight with the troopers, you could barely focus. Seeing Boba’s face made you feel like you had seen a ghost. You were once again fighting alongside a familiar face — like you were taken back to the Clone Wars. It terrifies you how much you longed for that era. 
You and Din boarded Boba’s ship, Slave I. 
And when Boba spoke, stars, he sounded exactly like your clone commander. You had heard his voice a thousand times before. It was all so confusing, and you were transfixed on him. 
While in hyperspace, Boba began repainting his armor. Fennec decided to get some sleep, and Din attempted to do the same. 
Your eyes filled with tears as memories of the Purge resurfaced. Your legion turned against you. The men you had grown to care for during the war, who attended your knighting ceremony, attempted to kill you. They were filled with pure hatred and you were forced to kill them. 
“You fought during the Clone Wars.” Boba had not asked a question. He simply stated a fact and focused entirely on getting the red markings on the helmet perfect. As you watched Boba, you remembered when Rex would scratch marks on his helmet after a battle. 
“And you look like them.” You replied. There was no malice in your voice. Just heartbreak. 
“Someone in particular?” Boba asked. 
“A commander. We had grown up together. Kind of. I never really understood how those Kaminoans structured the age acceleration.” 
“I hated the Jedi.” 
“Most clones did after the order was given.” During your travels, before meeting Din, you had encountered Ahsoka — the young padawan that was wrongly convicted of treason and exiled from the Order. It was before the completion of the first Death Star. When she told you of Rex’s survival, your heart filled with pure joy. 
“I am not a —” Boba stopped himself. For a brief moment, he had revered back to an old childhood defense. “The Kaminoans didn’t modify my genes. Jango Fett was my father.” He asserted. Jango called him a son. He had raised Boba, until the purple saber wielding Jedi killed him.
“He was a special specimen.” You stated confidently, and Boba chuckled. “The men cloned from him were excellent men. The GAR...they were family. I trusted them with my life.” The humor Boba found in your awkward statement disappeared. “And for the record, I hated Master Windu,” 
Boba chuckled, “Oh, yeah?” 
“Sometimes it felt like his allegiance was to the Galactic Republic, and not the Jedi Order. His lessons were extreme to say the least. I remember there was once an assassination attempt on the master, and the padawans joked about it succeeding.”
“Demented little fuckers.” Boba found himself smiling once again. Perhaps he would one day reveal that he was in fact responsible for the attempt on Windu’s life. Boba had posed as a clone cadet and rigged the Jedi’s quarters to explode.
“Yeah, well, we were soldiers.” 
The ship landed and within minutes, Din had collected the newly appointed marshall. 
“Quite the team you’ve assembled, Mando.” Cara commented upon meeting Boba and Fennec. 
“It won’t be enough.” You had stated. “The troopers that took the kid looked extremely advanced.”
“Maybe if you used the force it’ll give us a fighting chance.” Cara shot back. Her animosity toward you was no longer hidden. She hated you for not joining the Alliance to Restore the Republic.
“It doesn’t work like that.” You informed her. “I cut my connection years before Alderaan was destroyed. It’s not like flipping a switch. It takes training, and I haven’t had that in decades.” 
After the Purge, you severed your connection to the force to hide. It made it impossible for the Inquisitors to find you. Instead of joining the Alliance, you utilized your skills gained from the war to become a bounty hunter. 
“She knows her way around a staff.” Din stated. “Jedi or not, Y/N is a good fighter.” You befriended the lonesome bounty hunter not long after Karga hired you. 
On the way to pick of a New Republic prisoner, you found yourself alone with Boba. He was finishing the paint job on his helmet and admired his work. 
“You loved them.” He stated. At first, Boba thought the idea was outrageous. Clones were created to be cannon fodder. They were soldiers, expected to follow orders and die when asked. How could a Jedi, forbidden from any attachment, love a clone? 
A small chuckle escaped your lips. “Before the war ended, I began advocating for the creation of a division that would help clones transition from soldier to civilian.” You spent days speaking with senators Amidala and Organa about the idea. “I realized there was no intention on helping them because they were just instruments of the Sith.” 
Boba saw you cared deeply about his father’s clones. It must pain you to look at his face. It pained him. The reflection that stared back at him looked older than Jango was; the scars he gained from the pit made Boba look less and less like his father. 
“Your face is strangely comforting.” 
“Haven’t heard that one before,” Boba chuckled. 
Your eyes met his and a smile formed on your lips. 
He looked beautiful. 
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How Mandalorian is Boba Fett?
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Hey y’all! Your local Star Wars nerd here, looking to weigh in on the discussion surrounding Boba Fett and his relative “Mandalorian-ness,” as questioned by both Din and Bo-katan in The Mandalorian. Thanks to the animosity between Boba and Bo-Katan as shown in the Season 2 Finale, there’ve been a lot of conflicting takes on the question, ranging from, “Bo-Katan is right, he’s not Mandalorian at all!” to “Bo-Katan is dead wrong, Boba Fett’s as Mando as they come!” Though we likely won’t get solid confirmation in the new canon for some time yet, I’d like to offer some insight about how Boba’s relationship to his Mandalorian heritage was portrayed in Star Wars: Legends/the Expanded Universe, which may shed light on what direction his character arc will take in new canon, including The Book of Boba Fett.
To start off, let’s begin with Jango Fett, Boba Fett’s father. In The Mandalorian, Boba states that his father was a foundling who served in the Mandalorian Civil War. This statement seems to canonize Jango’s backstory as it existed in the Expanded Universe: as a young child on Concord Dawn, his parents were killed and his sister enslaved by Death Watch, a Mandalorian splinter group. The young Jango was then found and adopted into a group of True Mandalorians led by Jaster Mereel, who stood in opposition to Death Watch, making Jango a foundling. He would grow up to fight alongside the True Mandalorians against Death Watch, even being named Mand’alor for a short time—until a tragic misunderstanding on the planet Galidraan would lead a contingent of Jedi to wipe out the True Mandalorians with Jango as the sole survivor. Now orphaned for a second time, Jango was handed over by the Jedi to the planetary government, who promptly sold the young man into slavery.
Jango would eventually escape slavery and become the bounty hunter we see in Episode II. Though he would still occasionally face off against remnants of Death Watch, his horrific experiences left him increasingly isolated and paranoid, and thus distant from other Mandalorians and their culture. Even so, he raised Boba with Mandalorian sensibilities of honor, strength, and family, plus aspects of their martial training. If you ask me, Boba Fett was raised Mandalorian—maybe not as rigorously as Din or Bo-Katan were, but in a way many children of immigrants or religious minorities living in diaspora would recognize.
However, one important thing to recognize about Mandalorian culture, at least in the Expanded Universe, is that a child, foundling or otherwise, is not considered a full-fledged adult Mandalorian until the age of 13. At that age, Mandalorian children were expected to take part in a rite of passage known as their verd’goten that would test their skills and honor. Only upon completing this trial would the child be considered an adult and an equal in Mandalorian society.
Except... Boba never got that opportunity. When Boba was ten years old, his father was killed and with him, Boba’s only connection to his heritage. In both Legends and in new canon, Boba spent the intervening years of his childhood as a fugitive and criminal, with no further Mandalorian education. Though the Expanded Universe shows him making some attempt to remain connected to his heritage (such as reading Mandalorian martial texts, joining the Journeyman Protectors, and marking his armor with a mythosaur emblem), he grew increasingly distant from Mandalorian culture and other people in general as he became older. Having never completed his verd’goten, even if he did try to claim Mandalorian status, he may have still been considered at least partially a pretender by other, stricter peers.
This brings us to the adult Boba Fett we see in both the Expanded Universe and in The Mandalorian: a man who makes no explicit claim to being Mandalorian, yet who clings to certain traditions all the same—his armor, his chain code, and the culture’s symbiology. So what does this mean for Boba Fett’s “Mandalorian-ness?” Is he a Mandalorian or not? As you can see, it’s a pretty complex question and it doesn’t have a clear yes-or-no answer. My own take: Boba Fett is more Mandalorian than Bo-Katan gives him credit for. He was raised by a Mandalorian, and Mandalorian culture has strongly influenced his identity, from his notions of honor to the way he dresses to the way he fights. That said, most Mandalorians would be unlikely to accept him as one of their own. He hasn’t completed his verd’goten, does not live with or seek out other Mandalorians, and explicitly refuses to swear loyalty to the Mandalorian cause or homeworld. Fett himself doesn’t try to claim status as a Mandalorian, as, ironically, his cultural Mandalorian background would give him full knowledge that he doesn’t officially “count.”
If you ask me, due to his Mandalorian upbringing and background, Boba has every right to wear Mandalorian armor and symbols, especially as his separation from his culture was not by choice, but enacted by two generations of compounding tragedy and, in Jango’s case, literal genocide. However, hopefully this post will also illuminate some of the reasons other Mandalorians might not accept Boba and why Boba himself might express ambivalence about his heritage. 
It should be noted that in the Expanded Universe, Boba does, through (sometimes literal) found family shenanigans, draw closer to his Mandalorian side, even becoming Mand’alor, albeit reluctantly. We can only wait and see whether The Book of Boba Fett and perhaps future Star Wars properties also further develop his shaky status as a Mandalorian.
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kenobihater · 3 years
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I keep thinking about the moment when Boba shows his chain code to Din, who comments on his father Jango being a foundling. This serves the narrative purpose of confirming Boba’s identity in Din’s eyes, but I can’t help but think about the parallels between Jango Fett’s life and Din Djarin’s life (now, disclaimer that Open Seasons hasn’t been recanonized, but it’s what I’m using as a reference for Jango’s past). People have talked about Boba and Din’s similarities, but I have yet to see an analysis of Jango and Din’s connections. 
Jango’s status as a foundling is the most obvious link the two characters share, but it goes deeper than that. They’re not only both foundlings - they’re war orphans, who were swept up into a conflict that had nothing to do with them and rescued by Mandalorians. The two of them were each raised by a traditionalist Mandalorian sect, and later joined that sect’s fighting force - Din with the Children of the Watch’s Fighting Corps, and Jango with the True Mandalorians’ strike team. Both Din and Jango survived the massacres of their people, becoming the last (or perhaps one of the last, in Din’s case) of their kind. Din and Jango were targeted by the galaxy at large for their armor following the fall of their peoples, and both are aesthetically similar with their unpainted beskar - a bold statement when every other mando we��ve seen adorns their armor. Notably, both are bounty hunters by trade, ones who haven’t always made the morally right decision when faced with a dilemma. Jango and Din are also both attentive fathers who dote on their children and acknowledge them as members of their clan.
Finally, one of the most interesting parallels in my mind is the fact that they both have a claim to the title of Mand’alor. Jango inherits the title from his adoptive father Mand’alor Jaster Mereel, and Din wins the darksaber in combat, granting him power and legitimacy through ancient right. Not only do they both have a valid claim to the throne, neither of them are overly ambitious when it comes to acting on this claim. Jango does hold the title for a number of years, but after the massacre at Galidraan, he’s sold into slavery and abandons any attempts to rebuild the True Mandalorians after he escapes, instead focusing on enacting revenge. By abandoning the title and attempting to become “just a simple man, trying to make his way through the universe”, Jango effectively clears the way for the New Mandalorians to cement themselves as the ruling political faction, and Satine Kryze takes the throne as Duchess. Din, on the other hand, just doesn’t want the power. Unlike Jango, he really is a nobody with no link to Mandalorian politics, and has this power thrust upon him unwillingly. If Din does somehow manage to shirk this responsibility and follow in Jango’s footsteps, history will repeat itself with a Kryze instead stepping in to become the ruler of the Mandalorian people.
I doubt any of these, aside from maybe the foundling connection, is an intentional parallel. Din is a lot less morally gray than Jango, and something tells me the mouse wouldn’t want to draw similarities between the hero of their hit show and a villain from the prequels. Regardless, I’m going to pretend like this was intentional and continue to think about it for the next decade.
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mydetheturk · 3 years
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more bobadin soulmate au?
from the other half, where Boba is Introspective about his armor
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Boba ran his hands through his armor, taking in the scrapes and damage he would have to fix once he got aboard the Slave 1. The color was still there, which was shocking. It was battered, damaged, but still there and honestly better off than Boba had expected. The Sarlacc had done a number on it, and Boba could have gotten it back from Vanth over in Mos Pelgo at any point, but the man was doing good work with it.
Even if he didn't know how to take care of beskar'gam.
Boba was expecting his armor to be much worse off than it was.
The colors weren't repairing themselves right before his eyes but it felt damn near - dinks and scuffs were smaller whenever he got done working on the inside of the plates, small spots fading away completely.
It wouldn't be completely repaired by morning, but it would be damn near close.
"Who had you?" he murmured, running his hand over his chest plate.
Boba paused, staring at his helmet with a dawning sort of horror.
The armor, when it had been his Dad's, had been a dulled grey, clear of any colors aside from the blue strip on Jango's faceplate. Boba thought that it was because non-Mandos thought uncolored beskar was unsettling, but one of the Cuyval Dar - Skirata, he thought, but it'd been over thirty years - said his dad was mourning.
The blue strip hadn't been a true Color, but paint.
Boba had learned as a child that his dad's other half was gone, marching far ahead. The blue had been as much of a representation of that bond as the lack of colors everywhere else.
But Boba's armor now had hints of black along the edges of his vambraces, shifting into a deep grey before hitting the green.
Already mourning and wanting justice.
Interesting.
Boba had a sneaking suspicion as to the identity of who had their hands all over his armor and didn’t want to think about the consequences of that.
If only because he’d seen the unfettered and un Colored, pure beskar armor.
It was possible he’d done that to the Bounty Hunter, given the way the Colors were repairing themselves.
No. The Mando had likely lost his other half during the Purges, and that was where Boba was fervently laying his thoughts. It woludn’t do to linger on what ifs and maybes. He was going to help the Hunter find his child.
That was all.
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clonewarslover55 · 3 years
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can I request a fic where the reader is in Bo Katan’s gang but sticks up for Boba? and maybe they also conflictingly wants to be the one fighting him so they can feel his power?
Sure!!
Fighting Boba Fett and defending him from the racist 
Notes: Thank you for giving me a reason to insult Bo! Also I prefer Legends over canon so some of that is involved, sorta. 
Warnings: Canon violence, Bo Katan being a clone racist bitch, Boba being a fucking KING and defending his father, Mandalorian episode whatever spoilers in season two
“You are a disgrace to your armor.” Bo sneers. Your eyebrows shot to your hairline at her statement. You look her Death Watch colored armor up and down, yours not matching mainly for that purpose exactly. You had a lot to say to Bo alreadly.
“This armor belonged to my father.” Boba speaks, his voice not changing from it’s gruff tone. 
“Don’t you mean...your donor?” Bo spat. You glared at her from your spot at the table. She had no reason to be so rude to the son of Jango. If Jango was alive he’d already have skinned her. 
“Careful, princess.” Boba nearly purred out the words, stepping closer to Bo. 
“You’re a clone,” Bo smirked, “I’ve heard your voice thousands of times.” 
“Mine might be the last one you hear.” 
They were in each other's faces now. Koska snarled, stepping forward. “No,” you grab her arm. “I got him.” You wanted to feel his power. You mouthed, “sorry” at the man then moved. 
You threw a punch at the man, Boba dodging easily. Boba grabbed you by the shoulder, tossing you easily into the nearest table. You stood up, sneering. Boba shot a steel wire from his wrist gauntlet, wrapping it around your wrist. 
You pulled against him, groaning with effort. You yanked him forward when his weight shifted, making it easier for you to pull him towards you. Boba used this momentum to run at you. You narrowly avoided him by grabbing his neck, ramming your armored knee into his gut. 
You’d be a liar if you said those grunts he made weren’t doing something to you. 
You went to use your jetpack so you could flip him, but Boba moved quicker than that. He flipped you instead, breaking the table that had your helmet on it. You groaned, Boba stepping forward. “Enough!” Bo shouted, “Both of you!” 
You glared at her, “I only fought him so he wouldn’t fucking kill you.” You stood up, your chest nearly pressed to Fett’s. “I hope you know I don’t agree with her claims at all. She has no reason to insult you over your father.” You spoke, your eyes locked with his visor. Boba cocked his head a bit. 
You glared back at Bo, “Jango Fett used to be our Mand’alor, don’t be rude just because he was a better ruler than you.” Bo stared at you, a sneer on her face. 
The Mandalorian in silver looked at Boba, the man in green simply waving him off. You smirked at the famous bounty hunter in green, walking to the table so you could pick up your helmet. 
You were excited to get to know him. His power was insane, and incredibly hot. Hopefully you’d get to know him very well in the future.
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twilightofthe · 3 years
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Lol ok I’ll do it I’ll stir the pot
Now that Boba Fett has confirmed that his father Jango was a foundling and Mandalorian, everyone’s wondering: why did Mandalore’s Prime Minister Almec say Boba was nothing but a common bounty hunter in TCW S2?
I know a lot of people are immediately going all “SATINE AND THE NEW MANDOS WERE TRYING TO ETHNIC CLEANSE AND THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN FOUNDLINGS AND BLAH BLAH—” and like, ok yeah, that’s definitely a possibility
But I don’t think that’s why Almec said that. I think the Mandalorians rejected Jango Fett specifically for a very specific reason. Was it a good reason? Nah, it’s a majorly fucking rude reason lol, but it’s a solidly political reason— not them just being cruel mindless bigots who wanna take away all the root’em toot’em shoot’em people’s armor and their significance.
I think Satine— or to a lesser extent, her government, one of Satine’s major flaws we see is that she genuinely believes the best of her government and has no idea just how fucking corrupt it is, I can see them telling her “hey we’ve handled it” and her trusting that they did something right —and the New Mandalorians didn’t want to be part of the new civil war tearing the galaxy apart.
Mandalore is trying to maintain a neutral position in this war.
It’s kind of REALLY hard for Mandalore to maintain that position if one side of the war’s army representing it consists of entirely clones of a Mandalorian.
So I think what Satine wanted was to probably just to say “hey Jango Fett never spoke for or in any way represented the New Mandalorian government, any involvement of his clones with the Republic does not have anything to do with Mandalore or its neutrality; we don’t take responsibility or alignment with any of that.”
But then we have Satine likely giving this task to Almec. Almec, from what little we see of his character, consists entirely of maintaining power by punching down at others. He makes himself look good by making others look bad. When he’s caught giving poison to children because of his red tape cutting and shady deals, he tries to spin it so SATINE is the one doing a horrible job, she pushed him to this, the Republic sucks, blah blah, he needs to take over. Once again when Maul springs him from prison and needs Almec to be his puppet ruler, Almec does this by once more lying and spinning the story around to make Satine seem like the bad guy. She killed Vizsla, she betrayed the people, Almec just wants to help. Even again when Bo Katan arrives to take back Sundari, Almec tries to invalidate her: you’re a terrorist, you’re not a leader like your sister, you’re nothing
Almec’s ENTIRE SCHTICK is spinning lies so the situation makes someone else look bad and he and his can come out on top. Of course if Satine gave him orders to make it so New Mandalore wasn’t associated with Jango Fett, Almec’s response would likely be to launch a total smear campaign on Jango. After all the guy’s dead, it’s not like he can even defend himself. Now Jango is just a bounty hunter who stole armor and has no honor and of COURSE has nothing to do with Mandalore, boom, done. That’s exactly up Almec’s alley.
And while I think that Satine definitely can be at fault for not noticing the venomous snakes in her own government, I do think that what Almec told Obi Wan about the Fetts in TCW was his agenda— and his agenda alone.
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Interview with Dave Filoni and George Lucas’s views on the Mandalorians in Canon. [TCWS]
IGN TV: You've got a big event starting off this Friday. Can you talk a bit about bringing the Mandalorians into the fold?
"If you're a Star Wars fan, you'll know what the Mandalorians are. If you are a casual fan, you'll just kinda think they look like a bunch of Boba Fetts. But it's a big deal to the fans who get into the lore. And it's something that's been much debated and written about in the [Expanded Universe], and up until now, really, I don't think George [Lucas] has ever really revealed his visual history of it or what really makes this Mandalorian culture tick. So that's what we're gonna see Friday. We're gonna see the planet; we're gonna see the people; we're gonna get a part of the history of where famous looking "T" visor helmet and armor comes from, which gives a little bit of insight into the bigger history of a very niche Star Wars area."
~ Dave Filoni, IGN Interview - The Clone Wars - The Mandolorians in Lucas Canon, 2010 https://www.ign.com/articles/2010/01/28/star-wars-are-you-ready-for-the-mandalorians
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"This is how George has always envisioned the Mandalorians," says Supervising Director Dave Filoni. "Of course, people immediately think of the iconic Fett armor, because that's all we've had to go on for so many years; it's mysterious, and we've built up that mystique as fans. But Boba and Jango Fett aren't necessarily what I would consider accurate representatives of the Mando culture. They're bounty hunters and outlaws -totally rogue. If you go way back to the original concepts, the Mandalorians were a group of supercommando troops; it's only now that George is really bringing that to the screen. They're in the series because he wanted to define their culture, to explore the foundations of this warrior faction."
According to Filoni, the introduction of Mandalorians was something that had been discussed as early as thefirst season of The Clone Wars - although Lucas held off on approving the story arc until the series' second season, once the larger conflict had been more firmly established.
"This was a running joke among the crew early in the production," says Filoni. "A lot of people on the crew wanted to see the Mandalorians - especially our head writer, Henry Gilroy - but they were off-limits to us at the time. George definitely has a sense of pace, and of a natural order for Star Wars storytelling; plus, it's his universe, so we had to set aside our Mando ideas for the time being. Ultimately, though, he came back around and gave us his blueprint for how he wanted to see the Mandalorian culture represented, which is great because they bring so much to the conflict.""
- Dave Filoni, TCW Supervising Director, Jan. 2010 - "At Long Last, The Mysterious Mandalorians Are Revealed in an All-New Episode of STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS", iesb.net
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IGN: The Clone Wars's Mandalorians look very similar to Jango Fett, with the blue outfits. Did you debate a lot about their appearance? As you mentioned, the EU has done a lot of different interpretations.
"Mandalore is one of those cases where I really wanted a lot of input from George and was lucky that he was willing to give it. Doing a Mandalorian arc was George's idea, so when it came down to what the Mandalorians look like, we had talked about making them white like the original supercommando Mandalorians were going to be in The Empire Strikes Back, but because of the clones we couldn't do that. It would be too confusing for the viewer. It was George who told us to make them silver, black and blue, much like Jango, so it kind of inferred that Jango's supercommando armor is pretty similar to the ones seen worn by the guys at almost the same time. We couldn't do the white paint scheme that was originally intended for them back in the 70's because of the clones."
~ Dave Filoni, IGN Interview - The Clone Wars - The Mandolorians in Lucas Canon, 2010 https://www.ign.com/articles/2010/01/28/star-wars-are-you-ready-for-the-mandalorians
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IGN: Is it exciting for you, daunting, or maybe a mixture of both when you know you're going to introduce something that is definitely going to get a lot of people paying attention inside the fandom?
"It's always a little bit of both. Again, I'm very fortunate to have George there guiding the whole thing, so it's not like I'm sitting there making this up, saying this is what Dave Filoni thinks it should be. This is definitely what George Lucas thinks it should be, and I take all the appropriate information to him that's out there in the EU, and I say, "We should look at this, just so you're aware of it because we might contradict this if we do this." So we try to factor a lot of things in, but it can't restrict us from making the most complete vision of what he wanted possible. It's fun. Fans always react to everything we do differently. The Mandalorians are but one example of many, many different things that can be very micro or seem small to some people, but they're actually large. Just even the color of lightsaber blades. I treat all that stuff with respect, and I think we make a pretty good show at the end of the day."
~ Dave Filoni, IGN Interview - The Clone Wars - The Mandolorians in Lucas Canon, 2010 https://www.ign.com/articles/2010/01/28/star-wars-are-you-ready-for-the-mandalorians
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IGN: Well, speaking of lightsaber blades, that's an excellent segue for me, because we have an exclusive clip [see above!] running on IGN TV, featuring a very special lightsaber that is seen for the first time in Friday's episode.
"The Darksaber. That was a big deal. And again that was an idea that came straight from George. Originally what Pre Vizsla was carrying was something in the EU called a vibroblade; it's kind of an electric sword.George let me get away with it in the early phases of design and in the early shooting, but when the color came back and he was watching the lightsaber we want to have combating this vibroblade, he said there's no way that can happen; there's no way that a non-lightsaber could block a lightsaber. So he had us do away with the vibroblade in that episode really late in the game, and he created something called the Darksaber, which would be a black-bladed energy saber with a white edge. It has a crackle of electricity; it's kind of like a more ancient version of a lightsaber, and it's inferred in the episode that it's really one of a kind and that Pre Vizsla's ancestors stole it from the Jedi in the days of the Old Republic. So it's got all this neat history attached to it right away, and it sounds different.
Dave Acord and Matt Wood, we designed a special sound for it when it's fighting a lightsaber. It hums differently; it sings a little more, like a tuning fork. Also, a lightsaber if you look top down on it, it has a round blade all around; it's an energy beam. The Darksaber is flat like an actual sword, so it's thinner on one side and it's wider when you turn it. It's a really interesting thing that George created for the Mandalorian to carry in the episode."
~ Dave Filoni, IGN Interview - The Clone Wars - The Mandolorians in Lucas Canon, 2010
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https://www.ign.com/articles/2010/01/28/star-wars-are-you-ready-for-the-mandalorians
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IGN: And then another interesting introduction that you're doing in this storyline is Satine, who introduces a whole new side of Obi-Wan.
"Satine was an idea that was around for a while. We kicked it around in Season 1 a lot and [discussed] how can we introduce this very strong female character? In the end, it was George, again, that put her on Mandalore and decided to make her the Duchess of Mandalore and create this whole pacifistic plotline, where she's this really high official/leader. To my mind, I kinda riffed off of Cate Blanchett's Elizabeth for the performance of Satine and some of the design. I just loved the way she carried herself in that film, and it was a big inspiration for how to do this character because to have a female character that'… I wanted her to stand right there with Obi-Wan Kenobi and be every bit as smart. Stand toe to toe with him and even be a bit wiser perhaps, and I think she does that really nicely.
As the episodes go on, we reveal more and more about their history and just what is it all about that they seem to know each other from the past. So that's a fun thing. And one of the things that we didn't really touch upon in Season 1 - expanding so much on a character like Obi-Wan Kenobi. But it definitely addresses some of the issues where people seem to think they know everything about these characters and everything about them and everything that's going to happen to them. I think this is a case where you'll find out that's just not the case, that there actually was something quite new to learn about Obi-Wan Kenobi."
~ Dave Filoni, IGN Interview - The Clone Wars - The Mandolorians in Lucas Canon, 2010 https://www.ign.com/articles/2010/01/28/star-wars-are-you-ready-for-the-mandalorians
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IGN: A really cool inclusion there were the zombie Geonosians [introduced in "Legacy of Terror"]. Who came up with that idea, and was that something that anyone was a little nervous about, content-wise? Or did you just say, "Let's go for it"?
"Again, that was George. George came to us with all the Season 2 plots [Mandolorian story arc was in this season] . He wanted to do this and this, and he said, "This is a zombie episode." When you do a series, you're going to run into doing things you never thought of doing before, especially with something like Star Wars where people kinda put it into the hero's journey category of a myth, but there's so much more in a TV show you have to do to explore. It just became kind of, "Wow, this is really fun." And it's so interesting that George is the one propelling us forward in that direction. But he always does that. He never just rests on what Star Wars is or was. He's always pushing for what it can be and how good can we make it. Zombie bugs; who knew? [Laughs] There's a lot of that in Season 2, where I'm like, "Wow, who knew? But this really works." It was fun. It's fun to work with him."
~ Dave Filoni, IGN Interview - The Clone Wars - The Mandolorians in Lucas Canon, 2010 https://www.ign.com/articles/2010/01/28/star-wars-are-you-ready-for-the-mandalorians
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reluctant-mandalore · 3 years
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An Uncompleted List of Some Things I Want to See in The Book of Boba Fett:
I want him to adopt another pet eel and name it eel II. 
You know what, give him a whole tank of eels. He has a palace now, he has the room for them. 
Flash backs to times when he was younger when Jango was alive. 
Along with the above one, soft moments between the two. Like maybe Jango telling Boba a bedtime story or helping him to learn to shoot properly. Stuff like that. Just Dad and Son bonding time. 
Also, flash backs to his time after Jango’s death. Mostly want to see him learning and becoming a well known bounty hunter. But I also want to see what kind of adventures he got up to as a young bounty hunter.
NO romance between him and Fennec. I just want them to be friends. Pls.
He can smooch Din though. Mando boyfriends.
Lmao Boba meeting with Han, Leia, and Luke again. I just know the interaction would be good. like pls, han would def panic but try to play it cool and I want to see that lol
Possibly meets a very old clone?? Interacts and has a heart to heart. 
Boba takes a young bounty hunter under his wing and helps them get used to the work. Sort of becomes a father figure for them. 
Him making fun of Bo-Katan for not getting the darksaber (I just know he would have a laugh about it).
Boba having to deal with mundane palace bs. 
I want a flash back to him repainting his armor. I dunno I just cant get the image of Boba sitting there repainting it all calm and stuff out of my head lol. 
I want to see how he handles the change in the palace, and what kind of changes he makes as he takes over. 
I want to see Fennec being badass. I love my wife
also want to see a bit of Fennecs past brought up too. 
I’d like a scene with her and boba drinking and just like chatting about stuff that has happened to them. I think it would be a nice bonding moment for them.
I want to see him and Fen work together just in general too. It would be nice to see the kind of bond they have formed and how they interact some more. 
Maybe some flashbacks to him escaping the sarlacc pit and him travelling to get his armor back. 
Also want to see what he did during that time period. Like it took him a bit to get that armor. He must have done something else during that gap. 
Like what about his ship. How did he get that back? What kind of bs did he have to go through just to get everything in his life sorted again? What sort of people did he meet? Stuff like that. 
Let him address some of his trauma for fucks sake. Star wars Im so sick of ya just brushing characters trauma under the rug sdhjbfshjd
Pls let him get another pet eel.
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ceasarslegion · 3 years
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One of the little details i love in the Mandalorian is what happens with Boba Fett
The first time we see that armor again, it's on Tatooine with Cobb Vanth, who found it in the same sarlacc pit that vored our main man back in the 80s:
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You kinda just assume Boba's dead, right? Din takes it back in exchange for dealing with their sandworm problem because of the sacrilege of a non-Mando wearing Mando armor and goes on his merry way. But there's a bit of dramatic irony mixed with a red herring for the audience because we were all in the know and yelling at our TV like "no, he's DEAD! You're not gonna FIND the owner!!" And we don't really see it again until we get to chapter 14, when a heavily-scarred Boba Fett comes to collect, and makes all of us watching spill coffee in our laps:
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He protecc
He attacc
But most importantly,
He wan his armor bacc
Anyway, I think this character resurrection was fucking brilliant. "But Dames, don't you hate the character resurrection trope?" Yeah, because no one seems to know how to make it believable. But this one succeeds very well in my opinion, mostly because of how little we actually know about Boba Fett.
Think of him in the original trilogy. How many lines did he have, again? So how much about him does the main source material actually give you?
If you base it on the movies and his re-introduction scene alone because I'm gonna assume the vast majority of Star Wars fandom doesn't read the 50 billion EU novels, you would know that Boba Fett:
-is a bounty hunter
-is such a good bounty hunter that Vader hired him as his personal errand boy and went so far as to trust him and him alone to get the Han Solo job done
-was raised by Jango Fett, a man who was so good at what he did that he was contracted to donate his genetic code for a personal super-soldier army
-that he's also a clone of his father, and thus shares those skills if we go by in-universe logic
-doesn't actually follow a Mandalorian creed despite being ethnically Mandalorian, he just does what he's paid to do and doesn't ask questions or get caught up in moral qualms
-And... cool armor, I guess??
That's about all you'll get. Trying to discern any more about him from the movies alone will be like squeezing blood from a stone.
He's such a mysterious character, and that's what makes him so interesting. The wider fandom likes to joke about how the only reason there's so much Mandalorian lore now is because Boba's armor looked cool, but I'd actually argue it was the mystery behind the armor that made him so interesting from the beginning. In Star Wars, you KNOW character motivations. They always make it very clear where everyone stands, what side they're on, etc, but not Boba Fett. He was always the odd one out. Probably not intentional on Lucas's part because again, I'll never believe he's that smart, but that mistake served to make one of the most narratively interesting characters precisely because of how little we know about him and his motivations.
Which is what makes his character resurrection so much more believable and hitting than P*lpatine's. We don't know how much Boba Fett's capable of, because even his "death" was a freak accident that wasn't reflective of his skill. It's totally within the realm of possibility to us that he somehow managed to claw his way out of a sarlacc pit because we don't even know what his limits are, they've never been showed to us. So it just makes him that much more interesting that HE was the one who managed to survive and come looking for his armor, and totally lay out some stormtroopers in the process. ("I was aiming for the other one" is one of my favourite lines in this show lmfao)
TL;DR: Boba Fett's reappearance succeeds and feels natural because of how little we know about him, which is sometimes the best route to take with a character
Side note: I also really like the visual metaphors in his next appearance, when his armor's been fully restored:
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It's a little visual detail that I didn't really think about my first watch, but the new polished coat of paint really makes him look as refreshed as his character feels now.
Man, The Book of Boba Fett better be good if not I will still watch it
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