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thyandrawrites · 1 year

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I was rereading chapter 44 for fic writing purposes and

Oh my god

Can't believe I never put the pieces together before

Shouto's internal monologue here is literally foreshadowing. Change the subject of his thoughts from Rei to Touya and all of it still perfectly applies. The narrative significance of Shouto facing an estranged family member that might still hold resentment for him; Shouto's wish to reconnect mixed with the fear that makes his hands shake on that door handle (not dissimilar to his uncertainty towards Touya after the first war); the way Shouto's made to feel like he's the one holding the family member back from healing, together with his dad, despite that being a false belief and solely Enji's fault; the way it's purely Shouto's resolve that bridges that distance; the stress on Shouto feeling responsible for the abuse Rei suffered and the uncertainty he feels as the 'source' of her unhappiness (and by extension, Touya's).

The use of the word "existence" in particular stands out as significant: in jp, the word used here is the same Touya uses when he says he couldn't figure out why he "existed". The line that was translated as "with all I got" in japanese specifically has him talking about his body, thus referring more outwardly to his baggage as the "masterpiece" than as the pep talk it appears to be here. Which works as another callback to Touya's hangups

And then of course there's the most blatant hint that this is indeed supposed to read as foreshadowing:

"even if she's not asking for it"

Which directly ties to the war arc and Deku's resolve (mirrored by Ochako and, indeed, Shouto), to extend a helping hand to the villains even if they don't want the heroes' help.

And then, as the cherry on top, Shouto's eventual success here is framed as the one challenge he needs to overcome to truly call himself a hero.

🤯🤯

He's not. just talking. about Rei. At least on a metatextual level. Blows my mind.

But of course you won't know that until you reread everything from the beginning.

Rei was the first step towards Shouto finding his path as a hero, but the way Touya's next is woven into the story as early as this, and it's set up as the eventual climax of Shouto's arc right from the start

Chapter 44, guys. Dabi was introduced a couple of chapters later. Take that, haters. Shouto saving his brother was always in the plans.

You can say many things about Horikoshi's writing and its ups and downs, but you gotta hand it to him, this is super neat

#I mean. I knew on some level rei was foreshadowing for touya #Like I knew eri was foreshadowing of saving tenko #But what blows my mind is that you can literally change the subject of Shouto's monologue here and it's a summary of this arc...#Bnha #Thyandra.txt #It's loving Shouto hours #Gosh I love this candy caned little kitten so much #Bnha might be shit but shouto and the villains carry the weight of it till the end uh

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epickiya722 · 1 year

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An izuocha shipper said this:

Bkdks are just so transparent and easy to read. The people who rant now and want "justice for iida" are the VERY SAME people who always call him irrelevant to the story, boring, annoying, talk down his friendship with izuku and still havent forgiven him being rude ONCE to izuku in the very beginning of the manga before he and izuku even were friends (ohhhhh but anti bakugou people have to forgive bakugou ABUSING izuku for 12 YEARS, right?) and unlike bakugou didnt need over a century to apologiez! Lets be real, there is maybe just 1% of bkdk shippers who are really mad that it wasnt iida. For the majority thats not what the real problem is. They arent mad, because iida was "swaped" with ochako in the opening, they are mad because it was ochako and NOT bakugou! NOT ONE OF THEM would complain if instead of ochako reaching her hand out for izuku, if it would have been bakugou! Despite that there is no such moment in the manga between them! Its all about their shipping agenda. The anime can be as inaccurate as possible, bkdks dont care as long as bones highlights izukus and bakugous relationship even if its not manga canon.

What do you think about it? I'm interested in your opinion

And I am happy to give my opinion!!

Once more it's just other shippers trying to take a stab at BkDks and for what? Because they can't let it go. They're just bored and can't help but be asses.

For one, a lot of BkDks I have seen NEVER said Iida is boring or that irrelevant in any way. When it comes to other characters, I have seen a lot of BkDks defend them, Iida being one, Uraraka being another.

Hell, ask a BkDk who their favorite female character and most likely you'll get Ochaco Uraraka aka Uravity as an answer

No one is upset that it wasn't Bakugou that held Midoriya's hand in the opening. We're upset because once more Uraraka is just being used to fuel that role that it seems she's being forced into, which she doesn't deserve. She doesn't deserve to be a girl who only seemed to have Deku on her mind. A lot of her actions aren't even influenced by him and it sucks that others don't get that. On top of that, Iida, who a lot of us love, myself included, hated seeing his big moment taken away like that.

That's what it's more about. When that chapter came out that the opening is alluding to, no BkDk shipper I saw get upset. Why?

Because Iida is another good friend of Midoriya’s, he's also a great character on his own and it was nice seeing him getting the spotlight in that moment. It's like with Kirishima, BkDks like Kirishima because he is also a great character. He just happens to be a friend of Bakugou's. Do BkDks hate that? No!

Also BkDks and Bakugou fans aren't asking for anti Bakugous to "forgive" Bakugou. No one cares how they feel about Bakugou.

At most, what is being asked is not being so annoying about it and leave that space alone that does like his character. They're constantly the same ones sending threats, purposely tagging their anti posts wrong, commenting under fics, reblogging posts, etc. Like hate Bakugou, that's your preference and no one is forcing for a change of heart.

But how in the fuck (excuse my language) are antis going to throw the "Bakugou is a bully" card (mind you, who at the end of the day is a fictional teenager) yet do trolling and bullying REAL PEOPLE?

And!

The anime actually CAN'T be inaccurate as possible because all it's doing is ruining what Horikoshi and his team has worked on in the manga. It's why it's highly encouraged to read the manga.

I'm not surprised an IzuOcha shipper said that because guess what the anime is doing? Making IzuOcha seem more important when there's other things they should be highlighting like Iida's importance. If anyone is easy to read it's some of them.

BkDk shippers love BkDk, yeah, but most I have seen are always excited for the other characters, analyzing scenes about other characters and themes, hell, some are even multishippers so they do like other Bakugou and Midoriya ships.

Honestly, BkDks and Bakugou fans are probably the sets of people that seem to actually care about the story as a whole the most.

Ashido got a scene cut? A BkDk shipper will point it out. Shigaraki didn't say that in the manga and it's out of character? Oh, look that Bakugou fan caught it! Uraraka being reduced to nothing more than a girl with a crush despite having other great qualities that should be highlighted on? BkDks and Bakugou fans are ENRAGED.

Overall, to summarize this (it is long and I apologize for that, I ramble) BkDks in general don't care that it should have been Bakugou who held Midoriya's hand, I know I don't. We care about Iida's and Bakugou's significance to one of the darkest times in Midoriya's life. We care that Uraraka is also treated with care as she should be. If the opening wanted to have an IzuOcha moment, they could have! Just why make it the moment that should have gone to the characters that was important in that vital moment? They've been doing original scenes and whatnot forever, why stop now? Why take something away from other characters that are just as important as the protagonist and main girl character?

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selene-19 · 1 year

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It's been a month since the cover of Volume #37 is released. I still remember when I first saw it and thought its a fan-art then screaming, crying and thrashing when I found it canon and really drawn by Horikoshi sensei

The bakudeku covers:

This is the bkdk covers so far. Oh, how fast the night changes. Their first cover having a black like crack between them signifying that their relationship is still unstable and broken. My favorite cover is volume #29. Katsuki reaching his hand to a small Izuku on the river really makes me have a warm and soft feeling. He really regretted not taking his hand back then. Not to mention Katsuki's expression is everything. Volume #37 is my 2nd favorite but I just can't handle the angst. My heart still breaks whenever I think about Deku's rage, him holding Kacchan's chest so tenderly and ready to protect him to anyone and of course Katsuki just laying in Izuku's arms 😭💔

Special mention to the back cover of volume #33. I love it so much. The rain, their colors in the background green and orange skies, Katsuki's soft and worried expression and you can see his eyes that he is not having enough sleep ever since Izuku left UA 🥹

Then if you notice the clear white space on the left of them which I think means emptiness and distance. Which means ever since Izuku left UA Katsuki must have felt empty and bleak.

Don't mind me having a brainrot of bkdk covers right now. I just miss them so much 😩🥺

The back cover can also be the apology that will be animated soon. Hope bones won't mess it up. It's one of the most important moments between them 🤧🧡💚

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stillness-in-green · 2 years

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Pair O' Green One Asks

For the purposes of this ask, I will, as requested, set aside my vast skepticism about if I'm going to like how Deku saves Shigaraki to simply say: Yes. Yes, of course Deku will save him. I don't doubt it for a single second. I'd say it boils down to two factors.

(Note that the second of these asks will see my Deku Negativity back in full force and hit the jump.)

1) Shonen Jump's tonal requirements:

One of SJ's three tentpole tenets is Victory, which means that, as his series' main character, Deku has to be Victorious in the end. It's not enough to beat a big villain in the second-to-last chapter; Deku's Victory has to be a win in his own context. His context, right now, is saving Shigaraki—in the broader sense, it's achieving the ideal of victory the series laid out all the way back in the Final Exams arc: Win By Saving, Save By Winning.

Regardless of what Gran Torino has to say about death as a form of salvation, I simply cannot see Deku having to kill Shigaraki as anything but a failure. I think we see the nod toward that, even, when Hawks gets up in front of a crowd of reporters and says that his killing Bubaigawara Jin "speaks to his lack of character."

Deku failing to save Shigaraki—whether because he is forced to kill him or because he stands by and lets Shigaraki sacrifice himself for some joint goal—is Deku failing to achieve Victory in BNHA's overarching thematic context, which means BNHA fails to meet one of the Big Three Shonen Jump Golden Rules.

I'm not going to say that it could never happen? I certainly don't read enough Shonen Jump manga to make a statement that sweeping. I will say, however, that the big example that leaps to mind of a Shonen Jump protagonist suffering defeat at the end of his manga is Death Note, and I think you could make a decent argument that Death Note actually does support the three Golden Rules by showing what happens when people fail to live up to them. Light drops the ball on Friendship, and, having done so, is unable to achieve Victory despite all his Hard Work.

I don't see that happening in BNHA.

2) BNHA's genre inspirations:

Classically speaking, American superheroes don't kill their villains. You see it happen sometimes, when the medium is in its edgier phases, but not for no reason is one of the long-standing Amecomi questions, "Why doesn't Batman kill the Joker?" Because of the roles those comics fix their characters in and the ethics they purport to uphold, people called "superheroes" cannot be casually meting out death outside the justice system.

This is why Hawks' killing of Twice is such a massive deal: because it cuts against the grain of everything his society believes about heroes. If killing villains is the answer here, then Hawks will have beat Deku to that punch long before the end of the manga rolls around, and that's simply incompatible with the opening chapter's promise that Deku will become The Greatest Hero.

Further, Shigaraki is not positioned simply as the villain to defeat, but also as a victim to be saved. Superhero media might sometimes have Significant Failures—especially when it comes to the famously low life expectancies of your average Superhero Comic Love Interest—but failures like that serve to motivate heroes or change them in some drastic way that will shift how they approach heroism going forward in their story.

Looking at Horikoshi's favorite, Spider-Man fails to save people like Uncle Ben or Gwen Stacy at the beginning of his story, not at the climax of it.(*) If Deku dramatically fails to save the person he has dedicated himself to saving, that's the kind of thing that would mark BNHA as either a prequel or a tragedy, when plainly neither of those is the case.

Horikoshi has explicitly described Shigaraki as Deku's greatest challenge. How can Deku ever become the greatest hero if he fails?

As to how it's going to happen? What specifically is Deku going to do? That, I couldn't really speculate about without diving right back into negativity (see e.g. the ask reply beneath this), and also I'm just not big into trying to seriously predict my media. I'd much rather dig into what it offers than try to guess where it's going!

* Insomuch as cape comics have permanent climaxes, of course. But just for reference, Gwen Stacy was killed ten years into what is now Spider-Man's sixty year publication history.

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I’ve got a fandom friend (hi, Nal) that’s been saying this about Deku for a while now, so you’re definitely not alone in the sentiment! Personally, I wish that fandom had ever come up with a snappy way to talk about Canon Sues, because while I’m very sympathetic to the view that there’s a lot of unexamined sexism in the way fandom used/uses accusations of Sueism against female characters in ways it much more seldom wields against male characters, I do also think Canon Sue main characters are phenomena worth examining.

As regards Deku, I could have given him the benefit of the doubt for a long time for how many of his fights had mixed results (Muscular; Shigaraki at Jakku) or required outside help (Stain; Overhaul), but since the Edgy Deku material, Deku’s Sue qualities have been on the rise in a very bad way, especially since one of the big indicators of Sueishness is to what degree a character makes the entire world seem to rotate around them, with the narrative’s ability to sympathize with other characters given a hard limit by how receptive those characters are to befriending the prospective Sue.

Also too, of course, “His flaw is that he tries too hard,” has always been way, way up there on the ranking of Mary Sue Test Flaws That Aren’t Actually Flaws. It’s not an impossible flaw to write well (Steven Universe’s does so fantastically via its titular character), and certainly there are lots of ways the Edgy Deku arc could have gone that would have done a far better job of selling it. In the story as we have it, though, Deku gets consistently bailed out from having to face the consequences of his over-exertion and would-be-martyrdom, and having flaws you don’t suffer the logical consequences of is a defining Sue trait.

And yeah, there’s plenty of room to talk about what traits you want to put in a character who’s intended to be Aspirational instead of #Relatable; it’s kind of the defining difference between e.g. Superman and Spider-Man! An aspirational character can get away with not having a catalogue of faults and weaknesses, because they’re intended as paragons, as larger-than-life figures readers can admire and emulate, but it’s not some awful crime if readers sometimes don’t get all the way there, because with aspirational characters, it’s about the journey, not the destination. All Might, as he presented himself in-universe, was an aspirational figure.

Deku, however, was plainly intended as a relatable character instead. Setting aside Horikoshi’s self-admitted fondness for Spider-Man, Deku was The Everyman, the one who didn’t have a power to start with because the readers don't have powers. Deku was more emotional; there were aspects of his behavior one could point to as real blind spots and self-destructive patterns that the narrative was on track to address. He had to struggle more, he was young and green and he couldn’t do all this stuff on his own.

He couldn’t before. Unfortunately, now, it seems that he can do it all on his own just fine, but that screws the established teamwork narratives—as well as the series’ long-running interrogations of its own constructed society—which is why God Mode Deku feels like such a stinging let-down. That’s on top of being unfathomably boring because of the issues about him never facing real consequences. Hell, these days, I’d be hard-pressed to say he even faces real challenges!

Deku didn't have to be a Canon Sue, but god knows it's where he's wound up.

Thanks for the asks, anons!

#bnha #no. 2 green #deku critical #bnha critical #bnha endgame #stillness has salt #stillness answers

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haleigh-sloth · 1 year

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Do you see particular order in which the villians will be reached? My prediction is Toga < Kurogir/Shirakumo < Touya < Shigaraki lastly. The first 3 are kind of a debate in which order it can happen in, but I definitely feel sure that Shigaraki will be the last villian to be reach at the end.

I actually am thinking that everything is going to happen at the same time.

That's how the events are currently playing out right now. We're seeing different battlefields at different times, but it seems that everything is pretty concurrent.

My guess is that we'll SEE Toga having the first change of heart and mind, because we've yet to see her at all, but we got a big update on the state of things over there by seeing Twice appear and it seems he was holding one of Tsu's goggles. So obviously shit hit the fan there. But we still have yet to see it.

That, plus the comments Horikoshi has made about Toga and Ochacko lead me to believe that he has something big planned for them. Big as in, impactful on readers. So I think we'll see Toga change it up first. But, I'm guessing that timeline wise it will be concluding at the same time as the other battlefields.

Because I mean, god this battle has to end at some point. The manga is trying to end, you can tell. And I fail to see how there is really room for SO MUCH MORE STUFF after we see the first villain switch sides. So that's my thinking for now.

Touya and Shigaraki I honestly don't know who we'll see first. Again, I expect it all to go down at the same time, because there is more in store foreshadowed for the Todorokis' involvement in ending the conflict than just Touya calming down and deciding to fight with his family. The citizens at the shelter where their family is, is what I'm referring to.

So because of that...honestly Touya might be the last one we see? It would be a smooth transition to go from the father and two sons conflict concluding, and then shifting to needing to go save the rest of their family together, as a family. But idk, maybe that's my preference talking. But also, Touya's salvation is more clouded and hidden from us than Toga and Shigaraki. It's...quite painfully obvious for them. It's obvious what has to happen with them and it's really easy to see how those things can happen. Touya, we know what he needs, but we gotta see how it will happen and what that will look like. His conflict is unique to the plot because his family in itself has its own entire subplot somewhat separated from the rest. So I do expect some sort of special attention paid to Touya when his conflict starts to shift in a more positive direction.

Timeline-wise I think everything will happen at the same time and then everyone will join the fray to defeat AFO by helping fight whoever is left over fighting for him still, and leaving Deku, Shigaraki, Bakugo, ShiraGiri, and Aizawa to fight AFO himself---all at the same time. At least that's one way I can see it going down. But again, idk. I have things I wanna see, and while some of them are definitely foreshadowed to happen some way or another, some of them are just me thinking of possibilities.

#bnha #bnha asks #anonymous #bnha predictions

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kacchanbiased · 9 months

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It’s funny reading mha critical tumblr posts where people claim that “removing bakugou as a character” will “fix” MHA when nothing about removing Bakugou would fix the fact that horikoshi is not the best writer. Especially when you consider his character writing for bakugou is arguably some of the best in the entire story 😭 lol

This same person claimed that making todoroki female would also “fix” MHA but mind you horikoshi cant write female characters to save his life. Fem todoroki would be sidelined hardcore. Natsuo would save the family not todoroki lol.

Hating Bakugou wont change the fact that he’s one of the only characters to receive a full satisfying character arc. Deku courtesy of being a static MC doesn’t really get one because he technically doesn’t need one — which is totally fine… and while i wont knock on you for enjoying that, the set up of someone changing throughout the story, then receiving their flowers for that change, TO ME, is very satisfying.

And don’t get me wrong like Horikoshi has fumbled bakugou’s character. At the beginning (which he’s admitted to himself) and where we are currently in the story. But if you track the overall trajectory of his growth as a character, its steady, really satisfying, and shows an ability to depict a complex three dimensionality that doesn’t totally exist in every single one of his more relevant characters.

I’ve seen someone else say this too, but Horikoshi’s writing thrives when he can write about interpersonal conflict and it goes without saying but bakugou’s arc largely revolves around that. So it’s seriously no surprise that its so well done.

#Off the top of my head like the most interesting character arcs hes written for mha #Are like bakugou endeavor and twice #He like refuses to tap into dekus full potential as an MC #Because he very well could stop being so static #But i dont think thats what the story has in store for him

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greenhappyseed · 2 years

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BnHA Ch. 347 - Review, parallels, and comparisons

“Inflation” was a short chapter at 13 pages, and there’s another official chapter coming in 5 days (a Friday release). But damn, when the art is this good, does it matter if the chapter is short???

Soooo….how do you solve a problem like Midoriya? Apparently you shout his name a lot, then tell him he’s on his own because Shigaraki’s just one blink away from decaying UA. (I like that the heroes who knew him as a student call him Midoriya, not OFA or Deku.)

I love Horikoshi reminding us that Monoma continues to be a rock star, plus the little notes saying THIS IS MONOMA. (I guess Hori thought we wouldn’t recognize him without his bangs? Hmm, perhaps there will be a chapter extra page on this when the volume comes out!)

This chapter was also brought to you by the word “whoa.” Bakugo’s left gauntlet shatters from Shigaraki’s hands (whoa!), Aizawa realizes Midoriya needs a warp but they can’t do it (WHOAA!), and Midoriya has Toga come flying at him (WHOA!) It’s an oddly cute way to tie together these characters realizing that they’re in over their heads.

I’ll skip talking about the singularity here bc I have another post planned on that (I meant to finish it Friday but it didn’t happen!). All I’ll say is that the heroes continually underestimate Shigaraki’s non-quirk strength…. [Insert “I can’t believe it’s not quirks!” snark here.]

However! I will say it’s odd that Shigaraki’s face is changing and his eyes are disappearing and reappearing rapidly. Compare feral war Shig, when AFO just starts to exert control, to this chapter.

Since AFO’s face is covered by his mask right now, and we know he used to have white hair and red eyes, I wonder if his mask will eventually come off and we’ll see he has the same face as “perfected” Shigaraki. As Shigaraki and AFO have merged, it’s getting much harder to tell “who” is speaking, because it’s both. For example, yelling about heroes “sweeping things under the rug” and “couldn’t possibly comprehend” sounds very Shigaraki. But lecturing heroes on the singularity and how he’s so much smarter than the heroes? That’s AFO.

Ok, it’s TOGA TIME Y’ALL! I quite enjoy Horikoshi putting his twist on romance tropes. Red string of fate? Check. Confessing at the end of the world? Check. Toga goes all out to yank Izuku to her so she can confess her love and, hopefully, save his life. See, Toga doesn’t want Izuku to go to UA because she fears the destruction that awaits. Shigaraki promised her that he wouldn’t destroy what she loves, but the Shigaraki she knew is gone. And AFO wants Izuku even more than she does. If she really does love Izuku — and in her own way, she does — then she can’t let him go because she might not see him again.

I know people are upset that Danger Sense is used in this chapter as a shortcut for the “hard work” of getting to know Toga, or truly building an understanding with villains. But, to be honest, it doesn’t bother me. (There’s no right or wrong here, I’m just making my bias clear.) I personally don’t mind handwaving inconsistencies in quirk powers because powers always serve the story’s needs; e.g., we all know we’re gonna get “awakenings” and new moves during important battles. Though perhaps Danger Sense itself is a misunderstood and poorly named power. Wouldn’t be the first time a quirk wasn’t aptly named or known by its wielder.

Anyway. A few chapters back, Horikoshi introduced the idea that both Ochako and Izuku (and Shoto!) view the villains as humans. While that’s a big first step, it turns out to be … not very useful in actually making change happen. Humans are complex creatures motivated by many different things. Ochako recognized that what’s obvious to her isn’t obvious to Toga, but can’t put her finger on what IS obvious to Toga. Once that breakthrough happens, they can start to relate. Toga has said outright that she loves Izuku and Ochako, but Ochako couldn’t believe that because Toga’s always trying to stab them. Now, between Danger Sense and Ochako’s observations, I think both Izuku and Ochako are grasping how Toga sees the world.

…..Okay, before we go on….this final sentence isn’t 100% true. Toga will carve someone up out of love, yes, but she will also kill in self-defense, to avoid getting caught by authorities, and out of rage/revenge in extreme circumstances. Sometimes she kills when she needs someone’s blood to transform (the woman during Toya’s war fight with Ochako) and sometimes she doesn’t (Camie, Rock Lock, Aizawa).

Where does Toga’s confession leave us??? Well, I’m really glad we get a new chapter early, and it’s pretty much guaranteed to continue the Toga storyline since Ochako and Izuku are on the magazine cover. But, speaking of things that are not obvious… I have NO idea how Horikoshi will handle this. I hope Izuku and Ochako can gently talk Toga down (while battling Moonfish and the Nomu, hehe). If Toga truly loves them, and if she truly wants them to live a good, long life with her, then she can’t keep trying to stab them. But maybe Izuku and Ochako can voluntarily give Toga a vial of blood and show her it’s not the love or the blood that’s the problem; it’s really the random stabbing.

Like many other fans, I do hope this doesn’t turn into Toga and Ochako fighting over Izuku’s love, or immediately turning into a romance for Izuku and Ochako. I also don’t want Izuku and his powers to overshadow what Ochako can do. In fact, if IzuOcha will be canon, I’d like this to be a chance for Izuku to see Ochako help Toga. Like he understands what’s happening because of his Danger Sense insight, but he’s not equipped to help Toga the way Ochako is, so she takes the lead. Seeing Ochako be a hero, and save a villain in a way he hasn’t yet been able to, would be a good way for Ochako to inspire Izuku. And if Izuku decides he needs to be a bit more like Ochako as he approaches Shigaraki, then there’s something meaningful connecting the two (plus, thematically, it ties back to inspiration vs imitation). That said, I don’t think BnHA needs any endgame romantic pairs for the story to be complete, and I’d rather there be no romantic pairs than some last minute shoehorned pairings. But I’m still along for the ride no matter what because dammit I love these characters.

#bnha spoilers #mha spoilers #bnha 347 #mha 347 #mha #bnha #my hero academia #boku no hero academia #izuku midoriya #ochako uraraka #himiko toga #tomura shigaraki #bnha meta #mha meta #toga time #izuocha

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shotorozu · 3 years

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heyy! i'd like to request headcanons of bakugo, deku, and kirishima with s/o who has a powerful quirk but its power is derived from her emotions? kinda like,, the more she suppresses her emotions, the more powerful she gets? so as a result, she's always completely calm and smiling like 😊😌😀 even when there's complete chaos going on. i'd like for the boys to encourage her to open up about her feelings tho because suppressing your emotions is unhealthy ;((

this idea has been living in my mind rent free for a very long time now,, so sorry if it's a long request (?)

i love your writing btw 🥺💓 hope you take care <3

s/o that’s emotion deprived

character(s) : bakugou katsuki, midoriya izuku, kirishima eijirou

legend : [Y/N = your name] f!reader at the request of anon, quirk description is mentioned above— but for this alone; we’re gonna call it deprivation

note(s) : i made Y/N kinda like a kuudere in here?? i know kuudere is a different thing but it sounds similar. and the calm and smiling part lowkey reminds me of shinobu from kny

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bakugou katsuki

my little heart divider thing isn’t working fsr, so please discard that for now

anyways, your quirk sounds like an honest nightmare to him— he can’t imagine not being able to show his emotions.

you could be in the loudest room that had to exist, and you’d still be like 😀 “so what’s next?”

like.. he’ll never admit this, but props to you for being able to deal with this quirk for the majority of your life.

but at first, he was really irritated. because you were just :) or :| the entire time he was there.

and before you guys were dating, he always tried to get you to react— but it never worked because your skin’s thick

little did he know, your calmness was what he needed the entire time

but even after you guys get together, he wishes you’d at least retort back to him

katsuki was still really annoyed by it, until he realizes that you’re surpressing your emotions

like yeah.. you’re powerful. he’ll give you that— but he doesn’t want you to surpress your emotions or anything.

so he’ll talk to you one day, probably when you guys are just chilling. he’s not gonna make the intervention fancy or anything

he’ll spit it out, telling you it’s fine to loosen up a little from time to time.

but you’re like.. “but i’ll become weak if i don’t hold back my feelings?”

he’ll just scoff, rolling his eyes in fake annoyance as he pinches your cheek, saying “it won’t be the end of the world if you suddenly become weak”

because he’ll be there, right?

katsuki will try to do things differently. he’ll be nicer, and he’ll try to tease you to get you laughing or at least irritated.

just anything

so when he sees you express your emotions openly, he’s just like :)) “damn right i did that”

midoriya izuku

he was really unsure on how to approach you at first like.. are you mad? what are you thinking right now?

then he’s like “oh. that’s their quirk.”

your quirk is really interesting, so this causes him to start writing pages upon pages of your quirk in his notebook.

and despite your exterior, you’re really nice. you just don’t express your emotions

which is a real shame because.. you’re such a good person??

he’ll eventually be worried (like the sweetheart he is) because yes

deprivation is powerful as heck, as it feeds off your lack of emotion. but it’s not the healthiest mentally

so he checks up on you a lot, and he gets especially worried when your face goes neutral out of the sudden

he doesn’t know what you’re thinking!!

his constant worry of you caused him to develop feelings for you, because he’s always thinking about you

this doesn’t change when you guys get together, and he can only worry about you more.

so this causes him to go into a dilenma, actively trying to make you laugh— anything. even making the all might face

but you’re just like :) and he’s so sad whdnwns

he gets real defensive whenever someone calls you a robot like?? you’re not! you’re the sweetest person alive

unlike bakugou, his intervention is a lot more planned— izuku will take you to the park and he’ll tell you there

“Y/N, please don’t be afraid to express your feelings, suppressing your emotions isn’t healthy!”

he’s so sad sndnwndn

but luckily, the intervention goes well— because you can genuinely tell that he cares a lot

so he’s over the moon when you start laughing, or when you cried from watching a sad movie for the first time.

you don’t care that you feel weak at that moment, because izuku will hold you closer to him— almost protecting you from the world.

kirishima eijirou

he wasn’t afraid to approach you, because you seemed very laxed and calm all the time

even when mineta is bothering you, even when denki and bakugou are being very loud— to the point even the calmest people are irritated

you’re still there like :) very calm and level headed

like woah.. that’s so manly.

your quirk seems really difficult to deal with, and sometimes he finds himself wondering if you’re okay.

he’s always nice to you, even with the lack of reactions and emotions to the things he says

the first one to always say hello, and if you wanted to train with him.

you’re such a good listener to him, allowing him to rant about whatever problems you have.

but when it comes to your problems.. crickets.

was he kinda surprised when the both of you guys confess your feelings at the same time? yes.

he didn’t think it would happen!

okay but into the relationship, he started thinking about your lack of emotions. not in a bad way like he’s reconsidering things!

like.. “is Y/N really okay? i know deprivation is really strong and all but.. i’m worried that she’s supressing her feelings all this time.”

kirishima gets it, because in middle school, he too had trouble expressing himself often— sometimes even in the present he struggles a bit

but due to your calm demeanor, you’ve listened to his problems— and you allowed him to let it all out.

so he wants to do the same to you, telling you one day when you guys are snuggled up, watching a movie.

so you hug him, promising that you’ll be more expressive from then on

it feels like the weight on his shoulders were relieved when you started expressing yourself.

and he loves seeing you be this expressive and carefree. but just so you know, he’ll never allow you to be in dangered— so being vunerable to bad situations is very unlikely.

——

likes and reblogs are appreciated, thanks for reading!

i do not own bnha/mha and it’s characters. boku no hero academia/my hero academia belongs to horikoshi kohei. i only own the writing.

do not plagiarize my work :))

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innovativestruggles · 3 years

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Yo guys I just saw the mha ch 315 leaks all over and I..... SNIPERHAUL! okay hear me out again...

1. The fact that overhaul is so soft and vulnerable here, and confiding his past (re; deku ruining his plans) and frustrations to lady nagant. And now we know he has been saying something else other than ‘father’

2. It’s CANON! That lady nagant:

a) undressed overhaul

b) picked out some new clothes for him

c) dressed him

d) I am wondering whether she put new bandages on him too or if they were already there? I HC SHE CHANGED THEM

e) we saw some new pants on overhaul in previous chapters. they not showing it here but we can definitely make an educated guess that lady nagant changed his pants as well 😏 GUYS! I’M LOVING ALL THESE SUBTLE TEASING OF THESE TWO! ❤️

f) In that very top panel where lady nagant is holding a shirt. I am very certain that is the shirt she would be putting on overhaul ajshghdsghkdg

3. Okay even though overhaul has his motives, he is still willing to help out lady nagant by giving her information. I am loving the sassy ‘teamwork’ going on

4. Everyone....I’m obviously repeating myself but come on...the tender conversation between these two. Talking about hero society, being emotional, and vulnerable....(especially overhaul)....akjgdklsjgkldjgklsjglkd MY HEART

5. Just look at lady nagant’s expression! She obviously isn’t being snide, or mocking, or condescending of overhaul. She is listening to him, empathising with him, it’s all in the expression. Especially in the panel where overhaul is so broken about his failures, and how he is apologising to his father. Lady Nagant can see how much the father means to him.....

6. DID THEY RAID A CLOTHES STORE?! HAHAHAHAHAHA

7. Why the fuck is overhaul so hot? Like just look at them guns, damn he so fine

8. I just thought of something whilst writing this..so lady nagant would obviously be undressing and dressing overhaul...I’m wondering how many times she got to touch that fine body out of necessity 😏 SOMEONE HC WHAT IS GOING THROUGH LADY NAGANT’S MIND WHEN SHE IS DOING THIS!

9. I don’t know about everyone else, but I feel like the interaction between them here is on its purest level. If you look back at overhaul’s personality, you would never once even think that he would be this open and vulnerable - ever. I mean, it’s taken this much to destroy him (which is a lot considering his plans were legit his entire life goal), but lady nagant is a total stranger, yet instead of being wary, he put his trust in her to tell her and be vulnerable in front of her. He may be so beyond broken he just doesn’t care anymore, or that he simply has nothing to lose. But hey...makes for a great..... meet cute story right?

10. And finally..Fuck off Horikoshi for destroying an amazing female character in less than 3 chapters 😑 Redeem yourself by bringing back overhaul’s quirk so he can save her and the two can be an amazing power couple, get married and have gorgeous babies

#i got way too exciting seeing the latest chapter leaks #i mean i still don't have much of a clue what's going on considering i don't read the manga #omg i can't wait for this to be animated #YAAAASSSS #the more i see these two the more i love them #ahhhhhhhh #now i am awaiting on more fanfics and hc #sniperhaul #chisaki kai #overhaul #lady nagant #mha

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kiisaes · 3 years

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I don't know if you posted anything about the latest manga chapter but I just read chapter 322 and HHHHHHHHHHHH- EMOTIONS- I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS AND IT WAS /NOT/ DISAPPOINTING AHHHHH

HHHHHHHHHFHJHGJG I KNOW RIGHT

i made a quick post about it, but i'm still in utter shock that horikoshi managed to shove EVERY popular bkdk fic trope into one chapter. bakugou calls deku "izuku", bakugou apologizes for everything, bkdk change from past to present as a means of visual storytelling, bakugou reveals the real reason why he was so cruel to deku, deku falling into bakugou's arms and bakugou catching him without thinking twice,,,,, LIKE WHAT IS THIS. WHAT IS GOING ON

i suppose we should have all expected this but NOT THIS BLATANTLY U KNOW? we all kind of just expected some sort of apology but the moment horikoshi made it real we all flipped our shits because we never once thought that horikoshi would pinpoint every little cliche we had in mind. lol what is wrong with us

but anyway i'm really happy this last chapter existed in its final form - it's just awesome to know that bakugou has finally verbally apologized and truly, almost desperately means it. he really does care about deku that much; all this paired with chapter 284, 298, and 318 is like continuous birthdays where u get presents every day LMFAO i really have no idea how else to describe my joy! i'm obsessed with bakugou atoning and putting his all into helping deku when, for so long, he tried fighting that inherent desire with everything he had. i literally can't get enough of canon soft/understanding bakugou

i'd personally love to see them actually talk about what happened in 322, like actually sit down and have a conversation about it - deku looked like he had stuff to say too - but i'll have to cross my fingers on it. we've been getting so many great bkdk things lately that i can't afford to jinx myself [knocks on wood] but other than that i'm just really excited to see where their relationship goes from here :) i really want to see them be close friends, but like friends, u know? like genuine, "i'm hanging out with u because i like hanging out with u and for no other reason like training or ofa talks" friends. but we'll just have to wait and see :')

#asks for becki #bakudeku #bkdk #bnha manga spoilers #mha spoilers

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venomremmy777 · 3 years

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-sigh-

A lot of you did not understand my last post, so let me explain

I KNOW THAT SAYING A SHIP IS CANON IS MEMEING

Hell, I do the very same thing MYSELF. I know they’re just enjoying ships, but some people GENUINELY think the ship is canon. As usual, the MHA fandom took this too literally, and too generally, so let me walk you through this-

Horikoshi: Makes Deku play a big role in helping Todoroki from his trauma, and gives fanservice

The Fandom: OMG TODODEKU CANON

I know when people say TodoDeku is canon, if any, they’re joking. I originally wasn’t going to put TodoDeku, since it wouldn’t make much sense to put it. But I decided to anyways, but just as a lead. That’s all it was, a lead, into this-

Horikoshi: Has Uraraka get a crush on Deku

The Fandom: NO! IZUOCHA CANON NOW, NOT TODODEKU

Honestly this doesn’t have much importance either, I was just adding the TodoDeku vs IzuOcha stuff for relevance, and the fact I wanted to include as many mainstream ships as possible, without targeting one group.

Horikoshi: Writes an intimate and relationship between Momo and Jirou

The fandom: THEY’RE LESBIANS! 🥰

A lot of people GENUINELY think this. Jirou has been shown to blush or get shy around girls, and her Momo are often featured next to each other in Horikoshis sketch’s, BLUSHING. No, no- I’m not saying they’re canon, I’m just saying canon things. Take it as you will.

But…

Horikoshi: Makes Jirou the most important person to Kaminari

The fandom: IF THATS NOT ON THE ROAD TO CANON IDK WHAT IS! 😍

Okay so, now that Jirou is important to Kaminari, all of a sudden the MomoJirou stuff is irrelevant? KamiJirou is considered one of the most canon BNHA ships in the MHA fandom, because of this. But how come people considered MomoJirou a possibility, but they don’t now? And yes, I know, not everyone thinks that. Some people think KamiJirou is canon and others think MomoJirou is, I don’t really think anyone changed their minds on this one.

Idk if you’ve caught on, but I was mainly targeting a certain group, I just added other ships for fillers and meme- purposes. I also didn’t want to seem biased or like I was attacking, but I suppose I’ll have to since y’all did an r/whooosh

Horikoshi: Says he likes TodoMom-

The fandom: cOnFiRmEd

Again…we’re just going to brush off the MomoJirou progress? Or the fact Todoroki and Momo don’t have a lot of screentime. Yes, Horikoshi likes Todomomo. That does give it a high chance and I DO Love this ship! But a creator liking a ship doesn’t make it canon! Trust me, other fandoms, other experiences…

People genuinely think TodoMomo is canon too. Not like a funny “Haha Todoroki is looking at her in this background panel” No, I mean FULL ON, SERIOUS, ESSAY-LENGTH EXPLANATIONS and GENUINE beliefs

Horikoshi: Writes an arc about KiriBaku and their importance to each other, giving subtle hints and a shit ton of “coincidental” evidence

The fandom: GUYS LOOOOOK! MORE KRBK PROOF! KIRIBAKU CANON! 😍

Welp, here it is. The first of the three I was targeting, and my own fandom. I am, in fact, one of those delusional people, who thinks it’s actually canon. But I am well aware the LGBT does not have the upper hand in a Shounen genre, but I like to hope. Hope that maybe, just maybe, we can find peace here. I wasn’t really talking about the fact of Krbks calling KRBK canon, cause that would have been hypocritical of me. I meant the fact that at a certain point, Kirishima and Bakugo’s relationship was focused on so much in 2018, it basically became this trend. Where EVERYONE thought this ship had a chance. Because they seemed to ALWAYS BE NEXT TO EACH OTHER

You’re probably thinking,”What’s the point of this then?”

Well, here’s the point-

Horikoshi: Drops them to focus on Bakugo and Deku’s redemption and relationship building

Fandom: Oop- GUESS BKDK IS CANON NOW 😄🤭 So sad, I wanted KiriBaku/ IzuOcha oh well 😔

Okay here’s the thing, with the KRBK vs BKDK, I meant it more of a platonic or general sense. People seem to think that just because Kirishima and Bakugo haven’t interacted in a hundred chapters they’re suddenly irrelevant to each other?! As if they aren’t at least friends anymore?!?! I’ve seen people say “Kirishima was used for Bakugo’s redemption so he could get along better with Deku, so now there’s no need for him anymore” Um…no? KiriBakus development is a WHOLE OTHER THING FROM BKDK DEVELOPMENT. And all of you fellow Krbks- Stop crying a river because they haven’t interacted for 100 chapters! Bakugo and Deku redeeming their friendship is important!! LET THE BKDKS HAVE THIS! It’s what they wanted. Just because Deku and Bakugo are becoming friends, doesn’t mean Kirishima and Bakugo aren’t. So, just stop. Please. You don’t become best friends with each other and then all of a sudden say “Hey dude, your important to me n’ all, but there’s this other guy who I used to be friends with, but I kinda bullied him, so…Kinda gotta fix my relationship with him. Anyways lmao bye sEe yA nEVEr-“ I’m preeetttyyy sure that’s not how it works.

A lot of you might say, “No one says that” Oh, Ho, Really?

Now, finally, the last serious one…

Horikoshi: Gives Kirishima and Mina a chapter

The fandom: KiRiMinA cOnfiRmEd

This one I am being DEADASS serious. Horikoshi decided to finally introduce the arc where Kirishima gets over what happened in middle school, and Minas importance or lack thereof, whatever, to him. He saved her, and Mina did a new move “Acid Man” inspired by “UNBREAKABLE”. And apparently, this was leading to the road of being endgame. HELL- Even some Krbks were pouting like, “Yeah, but with the way the manga is going KiriMina is going to be endgame” OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS. Again! Just fuck the Krbk development right?! Just fuck it all! Because apparently, they can’t have other relationships of them focused on, without you thinking THATS going to be canon instead. Before you call me biased and delusional, MORE PROOF 👇

The last “IiDaDeKu” one was clearly just a meme, a funny, trending note to end on.

Please oh please understand the purpose of this!! It’s too make those of you doing this award of how guillable you’re being- and that NO SHIPS ARE CANON UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY ARE, FOR NOW ITS JUST POTENTIAL

And as a joke!! So we can LAUGH together about how much of a MESS this fandom is!

I mean- Fuck- I just had to explain a joke to you!!!

Also I’m sorry about my attitude but the replies made me pissed- Y’all made me sound like an Anti or a dude bro

WHO I HATE WITH EVERY SINGLE FIBER IN MY BEING

So don’t compare me to them again!!

I have a feeling- A STRONG feeling, some of y’all will think I’m just being rude and stupid, and I have no right to be mad, and STILL won’t get the purpose or joke of my last post, but if you do…

THANK YOU

BONUS:

Yes I do understand enjoying ships actually. Shipping is my whole life, I more than understand the difference between shipping for fun and shipping for a purpose. I get that some people ship as a comfort and others a hobby. I know it’s both platonic and romantic. I understand it’s not only to pair people together but to explore different possibilities. I know the difference between wanting your ship to be canon and genuinely thinking it is. I know shipping is for enjoyment, and it’s not about which becomes canon. I KNOW people are joking when they say it’s canon, but in the case with some of these they aren’t. And yeah, I know it’s a minority, but it’s an annoying, LOUD minority. No shit Sherlock people say certain ships are canon as a joke when they get crumbs

NO FUCKING DUH

#I’m sorry #but what the hell #imagine being me #a diehard shipper #accused of being a dudebro #I’m appalled and offended #y’all did an r/whooooshh #I actually thought some people would agree with me #and realize Hey yeah maybe this fandom does get too worked up over ships sometimes #maybe we do think every huge interaction is a nod to them being canon #but no #again MHA fandom you have proven to me once again you are the land of the ignorants #kiribaku #mha #anime #shitpost #canon #KiriMina #TodoDeku #BakuDeku #KamiJirou #momojirou #I was JOKING #But at the same time trying to raise self awareness #didn’t work I guess #not that I’m surprised #if parts of other fandoms are separated by gates than this one’s is separated by the GREAT WALL OF CHINA #Am I the only one having to deal with and noticing how ignorant oblivious and guillable this fAnBaSe is like #we all agree this fandom is toxic #but am I the only one who realizes how STUPID we can be?!

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Any predictions for My Hero Academia. Somehow I don't see it as heroes beat the bad guys and lock them up yes Tartarus is gone but surely there are other places. Afo will be destroyed hopefully, he deserves to pay for what he's done and being killed by the little child he mainupilted would be poetic justice. I'd like for Shoto and Dabi to accept each other cause they are 2 of my favorites along with Miruko, Deku and Shigaraki who better live.

My overall predictions for the ending haven't changed! I don't make specific plot predictions, but overall: Dabi, Toga, and Shigaraki will be saved and help defeat AFO in the final battle; hence, they will be forgiven by society and welcomed back. Realistic or not (as in our world standards), I don't really see any other ending for them.

Specifically:

Shigaraki will probably destroy AFO in the end. The central question of his arc is what he stated in the most recent chapter: "Who am I?" Unfortunately the answer is probably going to be "a hero" instead of "Shimura Tenko" (with imo the latter being more thematically powerful but less likely as the story seems to be backtracking on its criticisms of heroes).

I also do think Touya will reconcile with his family and sit around a table with the Todorokis.... including Endeavor. As much as I don’t like it, the narrative caters to Endeavor. The idea that Endeavor won’t have that complete family around a table in the end, as much as I wouldn’t mind it or would be happy with a more tenuous "we'll work on things" openish ending, just doesn’t seem to jive with how the story is framing the Todofam. Plus at this point Horikoshi seems to be focusing Dabi's internal conflict on the Todorokis.

Toga... well she's a great character but much like Ochaco her endgame is probably helping a male character and ending up with Shigaraki and with friends. (Ending up with Shigaraki does not mean romantically--just that they'll be together and close some way in the end).

#ask hamliet #bnha #bnha theory #lov #shigaraki tomuar #shimura tenko #todoroki touya #dabi #toga himiko

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ignitification · 3 years

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Two Sides of the Same Coin.

So, I actually hinted at this in my Yoichi Shigaraki's post - but as I found myself thinking about it, it becomes even more clear that the parallels between Deku/Bakugou and Yoichi/2nd User are way too many to be ignored (and that at the same time, they can be applied to Deku and Shigaraki).

Now, I'd have to consider in this post that the 1st and 2nd movie are, if not canon, an alternative universe which directly links back to the main story (as we saw with the Compression Gauntlet made by Melissa in the 1st movie, and which Izuku sports in Ch. 309).

But at the same time, I am not going to mention of some implication which might be related to this post entailed the possibility of Heroes Rising and Bakugou or one of his ancestors being an OfA user because of two reasons: I. because I am not a fan of the theory and II. because as things stand now, it has little to no relevance for the post.

Now, onto the main part: if we think about it, it makes absolutely sense that a foreshadowing of the relationship between Izuku and one or both of his counterparts is shown through the Vestiges of OfA. As I already wrote in the past (and I am particularly referring to this post), the Vestiges are somehow an enclosed space where Izuku is free to explore the Consciousness of his own Quirk. At the same time, it allows him to have insight in himself and occasionally others from within the same environment. Point in case, this happens with Shigaraki - when after touching him through AfO's Quirks's wires, Shigaraki (possessed by AfO, that is) enters the Vestiges.

This narrates of the fact that, mostly - appearances are not everything. I guess, this is also why the Vestiges look like a piece of crumbled building; not only because they managed to fully shape after the power evolved - which means through Toshinori towards Izuku - but also that the Vestiges are a kind metaphor for the people inhabiting the Vestiges. If the Vestiges are a shared consciousness formed due to the embers of an identity left in it and embed with a personality before being passed, it means that there is a sort of personalisation of OfA. Well, that should have been clear when Horikoshi made Izuku develop Shoot Style, and manifest OfA in different ways from All Might - freeing Izuku form the shackles that is his admiration for the hero. But most importantly it also means that this personalisation comes from within, while the power and that is, the core and the shared value of these people, stays fundamentally the same. Which is then represented by the Vestiges. But, the fact that this Quirk Personalization makes its way through the cracks on a shared identity, is evident in the fact that every user if free to decide whether to acknowledge the other (and foremost Izuku) and what to think of the situation. As the 2nd User speaks, he is still not entirely convinced that Izuku's is the way to go (I wonder, whether the fact that Izuku cannot properly speak also depends on the fact that User 2 and 3 haven't fully accepted Izuku yet).

This brings us forward to the notion of Hero, of Saving and the 'Room'. As it is clear by the panels above, 2nd User and Izuku play the role of Saviours, offering a help which is thought maybe not needed, but it is offered all the same. It is also at the beginning of a life-long journey, even if Izuku and Bakugou's comes way much after. Yoichi considers 2nd his hero, and the initiator of the story. Bakugou considers Izuku not his hero, but at the same time - Izuku, time after time, 'saves' Bakugou and offers him a hand to get out of the room full of himself in which society closed him in. But, these consideration, in my opinion, fit more the Shigaraki and Izuku storyline.

First of all, notwithstanding everything, Shigaraki is the main 'antagonist' of the story. He's the leader of the LOV, and while not the brain of the operation, he is still the one who puts in practice. He is the one actually influenced by AfO. He is the one, again, to be closed off from the world by AfO. Same as for Yoichi - as a form of absolute control. AfO encloses in a definite space, both mentally and physically Yoichi and Tomura both. He wants from them to be dependent of him. Wants them to be grateful to him for what he has done. Because he is the one who saved them, who gave them the necessary power and helped them survive in this world. It is not a case, that looking-wise Yoichi and Tomura are so similar, especially after the 'Hibernation' Tomura went through. And this scenario also brings to mind the way Shigaraki's body gets hijacked by AfO's consciousness, and Shigaraki tries to fight it - but instead, he is put to 'sleep' and rest, as to recover - because of the amount of energy used during the battle against the heroes.

As for the Hero part played by the 2nd User in the original scenario, Izuku is the one most likely to represent it in the upcoming occasions. Lately, there has been a lot of speculations about Izuku saving or not Shigaraki (the whole Vestige talk is after all, about Shigaraki and Izuku), but in the end, as said countless times: the set up talks clearly. Izuku is dead set on offering the tentative hand to Tomura, because in the Vestiges he saw that Shigaraki Tomura is nothing else than an identity created by AfO out of spite, hatred and manipulation. It's a mask, which Tomura executes as its best capabilities.

And if Izuku, who is the one who actually puts the seed of ‘But after all, maybe, there IS something to save, if you can understand what made villains the way the are’ is, despite the double expressed by Ni-sama, the hero of this scenario - on a very evident side that Shigaraki, or rather, Shimura Tenko, is the one who embodies the concept of Salvation and Destruction (Restoration), that is at the core of the entire manga series (and of course, of the ideology brought forward by the OfA users). Izuku Midoriya is, after all, walking the same steps of the 2nd user: going to save someone tossed aside and in AfO’s control, giving birth to a new stage of society and consequently reality. It’s a change in tide. The beginning of something new, and the end of something long overdue. It’s the beginning of a new, reformed society which does not see murder as a way of salvation, but rather understands that Heroes can show and bring forward another way, while working on themselves and working to save the villains. And it’s, at the same time, the End of an era holding Heroes in the highest regard, and glorifying power and strength (All Might’s Quirk. Endeavour, even the criteria of the UA entrance tests). An Era which held All Might accountable for everyone else, too - and made him bear the burden. An Era which made society lazy and uninvolved with the villains and the ugly side of themselves (which I already explored in this take). As Yoichi puts it, it’s thanks to him that the OfA’s story begins - and it may be because of Izuku that it ends, as it will fulfil its greatest mission: to free the world from AfO and to save Shigaraki Tomura.

This is why, the parallels between becoming a hero, and offering a hand to someone who probably never even consider the possibility of needing it, is a foreshadowing for what is likely to go down between Izuku and Tomura.

But as always, parallels, even when everything, still might be just a perception of the real situation. A perception of a situation which is where different, also similar because, as we all know - history is a fickle thing and it has a terrible habit of always repeating itself.

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I'm terrified about Shigaraki getting the Madara/Kaguya ending. Yk he dying because it's the final boss's turn to shine

I don't think that's the case, anon.

If anything, AFO is the one who's gonna die or get defeated in the end and Shigaraki is going to have a second chance or he's going to get redeemed through some other way, but not death.

First of all, because Naruto and Boku No Hero Academia have very different themes, even when bnha has Naruto inspiration.

Naruto is set on a world in constant war. It shows because the manga is way more cruel than bnha, more explicit, more extensive. Naruto has a wider focus. The story show us an entire world with different nations and the different levels of relationships in such world.

Boku No Hero Academia has its focus on one country, on an specific period of time, and it's theme is more focused on the problems of violence generated by a lack of communication. Its story is more innocent, more light-hearted, and it's based on the interactions within one society.

If you compare the number of deaths in Naruto with the number of deaths in bnha, it's easy to see what I mean. Also you can compare the number of tragic backstories, the number of over specific backstories, the many intricate rituals of the ninja world with the more relaxed form of the hero world, etc.

Shigaraki Tomura has the more detailed backstory in the bnha narrative, followed by the Todorokis. We know his grandparents, parents, sister, childhood, the figures that surrounded him in his teen years, hobbies, ideals, and we have seen his evolution from up close.

His arc is specifically well written, with consistent themes like death, sorrow, lose of identity, being demonized, etc. The symbolism around him are also well used, the color schemes, the recurrent poses and graphic images like the moth motive, etc. You can track the changes in his character and speech and it'll prove continuous, even.

It means there has been a great effort from Horikoshi when it comes to creating and evolving Shigaraki Tomura. Even now, in the final chapters of the manga, Horikoshi has dedicated a chapter to the villains, making the big meeting of Stars and Stripes and Shigaraki the focus of the chapter.

With that in mind, and how tied is Shigaraki to the whole thread (he has close connections to heroes and villains and civilians equally), I think is highly improbable for Horikoshi to kill Shigaraki Tomura. There are far more reasons and far more clues pointing out at a sort of redemption.

Shigaraki Tomura shares with Deku the whole "persevering and winning in the end" narrative. Since Tomura was introduced, we've been told he is growing still and he's gonna win in the end. But winning is something subjective, and breaking free from AFO and finally winning a life for himself can be the final reward for his persistent actions.

Besides, only the greatest heroes can save and not kill the greatest villains. In this case, Tomura is far closer to the figure of Sasuke, who Naruto insist in saving even when the rest tells him is not going to work, than to the figure of some villain. For Deku, Tomura is the kid he's failed to save, but he plans to change that. And in the narrative there is well present the idea of Tomura wanting for someone to truly believe in him as a hero, for someone to reach for his hand.

There are also more similarities between Naruto and Sasuke and Izuku and Tomura.

For example, the same way Sasuke and Naruto were taken in the end as two parts of a same thing, and therefore bringing balance together, Tomura and Deku symbolize death and life and are the two parts of a cycle, counterparts that complete each other.

While Tomura wants to sacrifice the world to avoid sacrificing himself, Deku tries to sacrifice himself to save the world. Both their determinations are wrong, for there's no need to destroy one thing or the other. They need to learn together how to take care on themselves while taking care of others.

So, in order for them to survive the final battle, they'd need to fight together, just like Sasuke and Naruto when facing the whole Kaguya thing. They're going to rebuild (not literally, but more like symbolic) the hero society to make it a better place for everyone: people with or without quirks, mutants, victims, civilians, etc.

So anon, if while comparing Naruto to bnha you feel anxious or worried about what's going to happen in the end with Shigaraki, take all the things I've just pointed out and examine them closer.

I could be wrong, of course. But the same way I could be wrong, I could be right, and you should find enough comfort in that.

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Why do you think the time travel theory is more plausible?

Just to say first, that I’m not at all a fan of this theory (I’ve seen way too many stories falling apart with badly executed time-travel), so I try to look at all the clues with VERY critical eyes. Still, as someone who discusses the possible endgame of Bakugou’s arc, I feel that there are more and more little narrative clues that point in this direction.

It’s pretty telling that Bakugou’s Origin chapter (unlike the other Origin chapters) ends with Deku in the centerpiece, using and augmenting Bakugou’s power.

I think that this was an early pointer that Horikoshi planned for Bakugou’s endgame to be some kind of power-sharing with Deku. And this was confirmed in Heroes Rising, which used the originally planned ending with Bakugou and Deku sharing OFA to defeat Nine (who was the Shigaraki-proxy of the movie).

The movie was announced in early 2019, so at least a couple of months before that, they had to already make the main decisions about it, having Horikoshi’s permission to use that ending, and for him to try to set up a new endgame that fits with the earlier clues. So keep this timing in mind:

The very Bakugou-esque silhouette appeared in the story for the first time in August 2018, so in time to set up the new ending.

The hair, the collar, the shape of the gauntlets - it’s uncanny.

This is not conclusive in itself of course, but like really quite on the nose repeated from different angles just to be sure.

But then, Horikoshi didn’t stop dropping clues with the shadow figures. A few chapters later, Bakugou starts to take interest in OFA and soon becomes a full member of Team OFA, tying Bakugou into this plot, rather than giving him his own separate arc.

He immediately displays a good understanding of the power and becomes one of the main drivers of the attempt to find out more about its history.

Horikoshi also gives us these little panelling hints - they are the equivalent of *wink* - when All Might’s dialogue is displayed over Katsuki’s head whenever the second and third users come up.

Ch: 202

and again in Ch: 257

The current arc kind of brought forward some things - like Bakugou’s sacrifice play and atonement - that could have been also endgame material consistent with his arc. He still - alone of the mains - has no villain counterpart, which suggests that he’s going to share with Deku the endgame boss. But at the same time, this arc is also giving us a sneak peek of Deku’s endgame power-levels and unless Bakugou gets some extraordinary power-up, it’s kind of hard to see them go side-by-side into the final fight. (The power-up is not impossible either - Bakugou being hit by the quirk activating tentacles could have triggered something inside him).

So with no clear endgame role and endgame villain, his hero name arc set to be revealed soon - it seems more and more likely that Bakugou’s arc will focus on his atonement (protecting Deku) and getting deeper into OFA’s nature. Interestingly, Bakugou alone sees it as a cursed power, which is a pretty unique view on it since both All Might and Deku have looked on it as a blessing up until now.

But in this arc, we have seen that OFA may be a power that is willing to break its users to fulfill its mission and Bakugou is set up now as someone who advocates for Deku’s interests even against the will of All Might (and OFA).

The seeds have been sewn for an investigation into No. 4... which will probably reveal something about the power itself.

All these little clues make me think that Bakugou is that No. 2. or if he isn’t yet, he will be.

The how is not very clear yet. It could be Eri’s quirk or one that hasn’t been introduced yet. It could be a power held within OFA itself (e.g. the power of No. 4), but it seems like it will involve probably time-travel shenanigans.

The why is also unclear for now. It could be that a maxed out OFA won’t be enough for a victory against the power AFO amassed. After all, it seems that the past holders’ quirk are more utility than destructive in nature.

And if we are talking of a top-notch quirk that Deku is intimately acquainted with - well...

But it could be a different reason. Maybe AFO gets hold of a time-travelling quirk himself and there is a threat that he’d change the past.

Or maybe time-travel becomes necessary to figure out a way of stopping quirk singularity destroying the world.

Or perhaps, Bakugou figures out why OFA is cursed and in order to save Deku from being consumed by it, he sets out to change the parameters of the quirk.

In any case, from the current narrative beats, it seems to me that Bak-u-go is very much on the cards as a possible ending - which would be incredible bitter-sweet.

It would allow Bakugou to lead the narrative in the uncovering of the origins of OFA and grow into the greatest hero in his own right in the past, to make a sacrifice without ending his life, to be Deku’s final ally in the endgame fight - standing with him inside OFA in the vestige plane, where I think the very last confrontation will take place. Like think about the visual of Deku being down and then vestige!Bakugou stepping out of the black mist of the last secret holder and helping Deku up and saying - no you don’t need to fight alone or something and BKDK + vestige!All Might charging in for a last time....

But all this, could be coming at the price of being permanently separated from his friends, unless they can travel him back into real time (assuming a closed-loop time travel, which then starts its own paradox) in which case, Bakugou could come back to the present too - but with Deku having his power through OFA, his aspirations as no. 1. are pretty doomed... And if he passed his quirk on in the past - would he still even have it? Quirkless Bakugou would be kind of a full circle ending, and we know Horikoshi loves his full circles.

So anyways, this is what I have for now...

#bnha meta #bnha speculation #bakugou katsuki #ofa #time travel theory #bak-u-go

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idk if you agree but I feel like Izuku is 100% neurodivergent im curious of what you think of this hc! anyway I love him so much and as a MC he's really original I've never seen a mc like him in shonen jump

i think its a really fitting hc! by the way other people have described and written about neurodivergent izuku (since i havent done so myself), it does really seem to suit him and some mannerisms he has displayed, so it is a hc i can hop on board with.

he actually reminds me a bit not of just myself but someone i knew back years ago who was also neurodivergent, and i know people who write and hc him as such find comfort in doing so, so all the more power to it tbh

and yea i love him sm... and the thing is as well, deku still has many traits that the regular shonen protag has... like being stubborn and a bit hardheaded when he has his mind set, and being hard working, but horikoshi really has a way with taking those usual tropes and changing them up. it makes mha as a whole very great imo, since while deku shares traits hes also his own unique character. hes emotional with a big heart, and the selflessness he possesses which is usually portrayed as good in other series, is actually shown to be harmful to izuku himself. its not always painted as being a completely good trait.

#asks #anonymous

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