#indie music??? idk

[this-is-where-i-hide-my-bullshit]

It's been years and I'm still obsessed with this video of this guy playing a banjo with a violin bow and it breaks my heart that there isn't more of this because I LOVE the sound!!!

Thank you Julian Koster, you strange and brilliant man.

#julian koster #the orbiting human circus (of the air) #idk what to tag #indie music??? idk #music recs #Youtube

[potato-lord-but-not]

when when when….. Jhariah…..

#gonna have him sign this at the show….. cus I’m silly like that #artists on tumblr #traditional art #jhariah #jhariah clare #jhariah fanart #indie artist #indie rock #alternative music #idk idk Jhariah fans SWARM

[sage-nebula]

"Suffer No Fools" - Shiver vs. Marina Analysis

It's been a few days since "Suffer No Fools" released, but I wanted to go ahead and release my analysis of Shiver's and Marina's verse since that's the one that has caused the most discussion within the fandom. I've seen a lot of debate over Marina's section in particular, with people unsure whether she was being sincere or sarcastic, and I think the actual answer is a little more complicated than one or the other, at least with regards to the first couplet of lines both she and Shiver sing. Of course, people are free to interpret this song however they wish, but after seeing numerous interpretations I personally didn't vibe with, I just wanted to put my own out there, breaking it down line by line.

So! Here we go.

Exchange 1:

Shiver: "Your haunting voice -- there's no escape. How nice it must be for your fans." Marina: "You're far too kind! I love your vibe. I can learn so much from your style."

Analyzing from dialogue only:

Shiver is insulting Marina's voice by calling it haunting and saying there is no escape, insinuating she wishes there was one. She says how nice it must be for Marina's fans, again implying that she isn't one.

Marina says that she loves Shiver's vibe, which on the surface could be a compliment, but given the context (a music battle) it could also be a Mean Girl "ooh I love your [thing] :)" passive-aggressive drawing-attention-to-something-ugly insult. More direct though, is the "I can learn so much from your style"; you can learn what not to do from someone just as much as you can learn what to do from someone. Marina's engaging in plausible deniability here.

HOWEVER. Lyrics are NOT the only thing that need to be analyzed from this first verse, which is arguably the MOST important exchange between these two. Instead, we need to look at how these lines are delivered.

Shiver is singing in a traditional Japanese folk singing style, specifically a style based on Shima-uta, which her voice actress has a background singing in. Unfortunately, I don't know the actual term for this style of singing, only that it's not kakegoe, something Shiver also does that is different from this. Anyway, in these lines specifically Shiver is singing in her Shima-uta style, a style that she has presumably been practicing since she was a small child, a style that is probably culturally significant to the Hohojiro clan. Singing in this style is not something that just anyone can do. It's completely different from singing in a (for lack of a better word) "western" style. The way you breathe is completely different. The way you incorporate your voice into your breathing is completely different. So by singing in this style, which Shiver has been doing practically her whole life and which, presumably, only she of the four there can do, Shiver is FLEXING on Marina regardless of what lyrics she chooses to sing.

But then Marina, who grew up under the domes in Inkadia, who presumably has never heard Shima-uta before she started listening to Deep Cut and heard Shiver sing, who presumably has had absolutely no training whatsoever on this style of song . . . mimics it perfectly and flexes on Shiver right back.

Could Marina's words to Shiver be interpreted as passive-aggressive in turn? Yes. But does it matter? No, not really. Because in this first verse, Marina's ACTUAL comeback is to take the style of singing that Shiver has been perfecting her entire life and throw it right back in her face despite having never (as far as we or Shiver know) practiced it herself. Shiver was flexing by presumably doing something Marina couldn't do, only for Marina to do it flawlessly, being every bit as divine with a voice so fine as Pearl said she was previously. Marina says "I love your vibe" so she takes it. Marina says "I have so much to learn from you" but does she really, when she can already do exactly what Shiver can, and has, just now, right in front of her?

And Shiver noticed, hence:

Exchange 2:

Shiver: "You remind me of my neighbor's little daughter . . . What's that saying? 'Octo see, octo do.'" Marina: "Glad you approve -- your praise has left me moved. Thanks to your notes, I'll find my groove!"

Shiver drops the Shima-uta singing, because now there's no point. Marina can also sing in that style, so it's no longer a flex. Shiver lost ground on that one, so instead we're back to the same (again, for lack of a better word) "regular" style of singing that everyone else is using. For that reason, we can go back to analyzing purely based on the words alone.

Shiver is calling Marina a copycat, essentially, because Marina copied her Shima-uta singing style in the previous verse (hence why Shiver had to drop it, as previously noted). Marina then gives her "glad you approve -- your praise has left me moved" . . . basically noting that by Shiver accusing her of copying, Shiver is saying that Marina -- someone who just tried the singing style off the cuff right there on the stage for the first time -- was just as good as Shiver, someone who has trained in that style her whole life. The audience saw for themselves that Marina was able to emulate the style, but Shiver saying, "you copied me!" is basically admitting that Marina was just as good as her in Shiver's own eyes, and Shiver is a pro. That's Shiver's aggravation handing Marina the win and Marina smiling wide as she accepts it.

Exchange 3:

Shiver: "Oh, look at the time. Isn't it getting late?" Marina: "Not at all! I could go on like this all night long."

This one doesn't even really need an analysis. For all that she prides herself on being "so cool even sharks call her cold-blooded," Shiver is known for being easily irritated and riled when she's losing due to her competitive nature. Marina successfully got under her skin, and this is her trying to end the battle fast because she didn't have any further comebacks. Marina, meanwhile, gives the classic "I could go on all night" because she's not riled at all, and is instead perfectly comfortable in this environment, knows what she's doing, and has had the upper hand from the start.

It goes back to another post I made about Experience vs. Inexperience. Shiver and Frye are still new idols, whereas Pearl and Marina have been at this for a long while. And while off the stage Marina is a sweet, kind, gentle person who will go out of her way to help others, and can sometimes be a little spacey or naive, she's also a 23-year-old literal genius who has been in the music industry for years now and knows full well what a rap / music battle is and knows her way around a stage. Personally, I found it to be a little infantilizing to insinuate that she "didn't realize Shiver was insulting her," when not only do I think she knew full well, but also she was the one with the upper hand not because of sick burns (that's Pearl's department), but because of sheer innate musical talent.

But those are just my thoughts! Everyone else is free to have their own.

#splatoon #splatoon 3 #suffer no fools #off the hook #deep cut #shiver hohojiro #marina ida #keep in mind that Shiver is my favorite Deep Cut member please #i mean no disrespect to her in any of this #i really do just think it's her inexperience in the music industry etc #and Frye's as well #i think that in Splatoon 4 we'll see that Shiver and Frye have matured some & made some headway in their own careers #(and Big Man too ofc but tbh he's already there with the maturity imo) #(hence his collabing w/ Squid Sisters & non-hostility toward OtH) #then again maybe Deep Cut wants to stay indie. idk! we'll see

[panakoui]

#haha idk #chat is this cringe #maybe #but im freeeeee #also i think toshiro's music would be modern indie folk #laishuro #laios touden #toshiro nakamoto #shuro dungeon meshi #delicious in dungeon

[eggwishing]

wah... runs away

#the spot #johnathan ohnn #spiderverse #idk ever since i found out his voice actor made indie/alt music it hasnt really left my head ... #there's a nother one i drew but i feel like it's ough #like it doesnt look good soNobody else gets 2 see it except 4 my dear wife..^_^

[shaddydraws]

I may be cringe but I'm free *makes trollsona*

#probably an indie/alt troll or smth idk my music taste is all over the place #trolls #trolls 3 #trollsona #doodles #my art

[peeptheaesthetic]

Wish I could have experienced this.

#indie sleaze #indie sleeze #indie sleaze aesthetic #indie sleaze moodboard #aesthetic #y2k nostalgia #early 2010s fashion #2010s #2010s nostalgia #early 2000s #2014 tumblr #2014 aesthetic #music moodboard #idk what else to tag #please add to this #idk what else to put in the tags #lorde #lorde aesthetic #Spotify

[stuckinapril]

started listening to emotional oranges because of you & THEYRE SO GOOD?????? in love w their music fr

No they’re literally so good. Usually male-female duos don’t do it for me, bc the harmonization falls right below the mark & you just feel a certain synergy missing. That’s absolutely not the case w Azad Right and Vali Porter. Their chemistry in every song is literally insane. This is an actual case where the talent is off the charts & yet they’re criminally underrated 🥲

#And usually I’d be like whatever some indie bands thrive bc they don’t feel the pressure to cater to commercial music #But w Emotional Oranges they’re not just indie #They’re UNDERGROUND underground #I feel like they should at the very least be selling out venues but idk. #Azard Right was an audio engineer for Drake & Vali Porter was Adele’s vocal coach of all people #So you’d think they’d have the connections to be popping off?? Idk but they deserve sm more #ask

[confused-n-sinning]

I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW THE AMAZING DEVIL CONTENTTT- I KNOW IT'LL BE A WHILE BUT I'M SO GLAD THEY'RE WORKING ON ITTTT ABDJBDBDJ

If you didn't know Madeline and Joey made a post on the TAD instagram that they were working on smth 🤭

#tad ruin #the amazing devil #joey batey #madeline hyland #madeleine hyland #idk the spelling #indie folk #indie music #the horror and the wild #inkpot gods #confusedmarsh

[stinkypeanutbutter]

I’d like to headcanon that some of the squad have shared playlists , and one giant one for them all . They check out each others Spotify or Amazon or YouTube idk what they use anyway they check it out and if it pairs similar to their own , they join together and create one to play when they are chilling or showing to the others . The BIG one is them all together , meaning lots and lots and lots of bickering over what song gets put in and what doesn’t . Usually , it’s just Aiden complaining about the songs he can’t add ( VERY mixed style , some songs are a little too goofy . But don’t worry , he’ll add them on when no one’s looking )

#I imagine of course Ben and Tyler #kinda like from there one doodle post red made of them listening to music together #Taylor and Aiden . Listen just listen . Taylor . . #but she listens to rock and metal . HEAR ME OUTT !!!! #i want to share my playlist with Taylor pslsplsls I would do Aiden cause I love him but my playlist isn’t that far out enough to fit him 💔 #Or is that not how it works isk #Aiden and Taylor absolutely jamming OUT to MONSTARRR ( I love that song sosoosos much 🫶🫶 ) #Ashlyn and uhhh Logan because I can just imagine it #Logan would probably put on instrumental astrology music #Is that a thing ?? Idk #Also ashlyn and Tyler #It makes sense to me idk #Taylor and and Logan because she also really likes soft music #Or softer music idk how to put it but pop music and indie music cause I like it #Logan and Ben cause they chill like that :33 #Aiden kept on trying to put EMO BOY on the playlist ( I would too ) #They allowed slipknot cause Taylor likes them too 🫶 #Do these make sense at all idk #SO GO AND TEL YOUR FRIENDS THAT IM A FRAKING MONSTAR #I want to draw that so bad ngl #why am I typing on this so much #Logan grabbing aiden by the shoulders absolutely begging him not to ever put on his playlist in front of his grandparents #It’s that insane sometimes 💥💥 #Okay bye 🦶 #school bus graveyard #sbg #sbg (webtoon) #school bus graveyard webtoon

[cannibalovers]

ok yall once again, cuz idk if to keep posting the hannibal song of the day stuff i do where i take songs mainly from my playlists and analyse their meaning and write why i think they apply to hannibal,

not like i have much time anyway cuz of exams and school but still,, quite fun to do from time to time when i do have motivation, just dk how easy it is to understand what I write and how enjoyable it is

also suggestions for other names other than "hannibal song of the day" would be very appreciated and welcome cuz i am def not posting daily LMAO but i had no other ideas for a memorable name

#hannibal song of the day #lmao i already asked the server this and they said yes but still dk #i got like 100 notes on the post where i asked if ppl would be interested and get like 3 notes on the actual song posts 😭😭 #I AM MAINLY DOING THIS FOR ME I SWEAR but would be fun to see ppls opinions yk #maybe not choosing popular enough songs #but overall i could literally just do it in my journal or somewhere instead of here #but eh #nbc hannibal #hannibal #hannigram #music #rock music #alternative music #electronic rock #synth pop #metal music #alternative metal #indietronica #indie rock #girl idk what else i listen to UHHHHH #will graham #hannibal lecter #text post #poll #my post #rumaiq rambles #is it cringe? yes. yes it is. but idc❤️

[lunarcat982]

Intro post :D

welcome one and all to this sad little gay mess of a blog

I will vent alot prob, sry. I love art and music and I support everyone :) unless ur a dick or weirdo. I'll prob post art like atleast once a week? (it won't be that good lol)

Feel free to message me! I'm nice i promise lol, if u js wanna chat or u need to vent.

I'm transfem : she/her :), polyamourous and pansexual <33

anywayyyy these r some fandoms im part of and stuff i like, so message me if u wanna talk abt them lol, or don't idm

Anything by Alice Oseman

heartstopper

Hazbin hotel

Portal 1 and 2

Half life 1 and 2

anything gay

Jack stauber

mother mother

Noah Finnce

Cavetown

minecraft

Gravity Falls

Murder drones

Ramshackle

Penelope Scott

Olivia Rodrigo

anyway sry if i post too much depressing shit and i'll prob block u if ur an ignorant asshole

also also ihave aventing blog :) so if u need to vent or something go there! @mentallystable982

also also I have a cat :3 (and they’re better then dogs) I still love doggos tho <333

anywayanyway hope i don't bore u and have funnn :D

#gravity falls #osemanverse #jack stauber #portal #lgbtqia #intro post #art #blog intro #noah finnce #portal 2 #valve games #penelope Scott #indie animation #hazbin hotel #trans #transgender #transfem #pansexual #polyamourous #idk how to tag this #funny #lol #idk #alice oseman #drawings #my art #music #music>sleep #music my love

[unmovingwindchimes]

ME WHEN THE BASEBALL IS MODERN OH MY GOD

#modern baseball #indie #?? #music #idk why I’m tagging this #I don’t particularly want anyone to see it

[justabiii]

who is tally and why are they in a hall

#gay #shitpost #gayshitpost #196 #r196 #r/196 #idk what to put here #trans #transshitpost #tally hall #indie music

[gnarlyimp]

intro post btw. if you even gaf

general

toby (short for october)

16

any prns besides she/her

gender is everything and nothing. sexuality is the same. i dont fucking care anymore

autistic + adhd + probably other undiagnosed problems

author and digital artist. working on the rough draft of my first novel and sorta kinda developing my second. idc about order. also number 1 character creator

furry. fursona is a panda ferret with white mitts and a pastel tie-dye pattern body named sweetart

special interests

donna tartt

the secret history

the goldfinch

character creation

my oc lav

general interests

smiling friends

bugsnax

clone high

my little pony

regular show

UNHhhh

peach pit (band)

ferrets

creative writing

the skeleton twins

etc!!

ummmm i guess thats it. i also really like making friends and am in desperate need of more so ….. shoot me a dm …….. add me on discord ……. ill be there INDUBITABLY.

theres also more stuff about me in my carrd. Be my mutual please byeeeeee ^-^

#i posted smth like this on one of my sideblogs but #idk i might as well #intro post #about myself #looking for mutuals #looking for moots #mutuals #moots #art moots #nonbinary #genderless #autism #adhd #smiling friends #peach pit band #indie music #furry community #furries #artists on tumblr #lets be friends #looking for friends #moots pls #lets be pals

[styxvii]

New song yayyy Also on YouTube + most other streaming platforms except amazon music bc I hate Amazon

#they suck and also I worked at Whole Foods so it’s personal #anyways tags #scenecore #drum & bass #electronic dance #hyperpop #idk what genre i am wahh 😭 #indie artist #independent artist #independent music #underground music #Spotify