#i even agree w the shippers on some things!

[ultratradmalewife]

Different anon here replying to one of your other anons. One thing I want to emphasize is that BuckTommy fans TRIED to be friendly with Buddies. We really did. In fact, all we did was post celebratory posts about Buck's bisexuality, talk about how much we loved him with Tommy, discussed what headcanons we had, in addition to the hopes we had for the future of their relationship. The large majority of BuckTommy fans were and still are fans of Eddie. The large majority of us LOVE Buck's relationship with Eddie, even if many of us only see it as platonic. We've never seen Eddie as a threat, nor have we set out to vilify and attack Buddie fans for not liking Tommy or wanting him to be with Buck. But the same CANNOT be said about Buddies. It became very clear, very fast, that Buddies were threatened by Buck's relationship with Tommy, and because of that, they quickly began antagonizing BuckTommy shippers. Calling us horrific racial slurs, being disgustingly homophobic and biphobic, accusing us of fetishizing Buck with Tommy because "we're slaves to white men" and "love calling white men massa" (real fucking quotes said many times by Buddies), intentionally posting what initially seem like positive posts in our tag, only to throw us a curveball at the end by basically saying "Psych!" with something extremely rude and anti-BuckTommy. They even post fanfiction that is presented as being all about BuckTommy, only to kill Tommy off at the end or have Buck break up with him and then have Buck get with Eddie. And they laugh about all of that, over and over, in the BuckTommy tag. All this to say, it can get deeply, deeply frustrating when people, especially so-called decent Buddie fans (because they can't tell me they don't witness the shit their fellow Buddie members pull on the daily), try to "both sides" this situation and accuse BuckTommy fans of being just as problematic and incapable of civility as Buddies. No, no, no. BuckTommy fans have been nothing like Buddies, and to try portraying us as an equal part of the problem feels like an extremely bad faith take meant to downplay the toxicity of Buddie shippers while vilifying BuckTommy fans for, God forbid, calling Buddies out on their abhorrent behavior. Because that's what the large majority of BuckTommy's anger consists of--defending our IDENTITIES against disgusting personal attacks, and, again, God forbid, daring to call Buddies out when they relentlessly, CONSTANTLY twist their head canons into "fact", misrepresent the truth over and over again, and then try to portray anyone who disagrees with them as stupid and beneath them. That's toxic ass behavior, and BuckTommy fans shouldn't have to sing "Kumbaya" for the sake of civility so some of you guys can feel comfortable, not when Buddies are committed to being cruel and disgusting at every turn. And I haven't even touched on the fact that BuckTommy fans are not the ones harassing the showrunner and actors, and trying to get an actor FIRED by misrepresenting what he said and trying to twist it into something actually really gross and fucked up, just so they can try to get what they want. So some of you guys can positively miss me with the "both sides" attempt. The only thing I WILL say about BuckTommy fans is that we do need to make a bigger attempt at ignoring Buddies. We can get a little TOO caught up in what the Buddies are saying and doing to us. But on the other hand, BuckTommy fans have a right to defend ourselves, especially when the attacks are constantly real fucking personal and don't even have anything to DO with shipping.

I agree with all of what you said. I know how things happened. I had even said there’s no reason for the Bucktommy side of the fandom to start a ship war, it all started with die hard Buddies, and I don’t usually see the ones who play both sides because I blocked them. There’s no reason in talking to them because they’re either just as scared of Buddies or don’t want confrontation. I also know people who want to play both sides are just people telling BuckTommy fans how to react, and they’re never telling Buddies how to act. I agree with you 100% on that and those are the people I block.

I’ve also been told I’m racist because I hate Eddie and Mexicans (I don’t), by people who either don’t know or don’t care that I’m Mexican (100% both parents born there and so was I).

I made a whole post explaining how Buddies have been homophobic when they tried to downplay their homophobia to simply cropping Lou from pictures. I know the slang and words that they tried to attach to him and the community. Those people are also blocked.

Now, like I told last anon I’m not trying to bridge that gap. You can see some of my own past posts how petty I can be to the die hard buddies. I am one person and I’m not going to change a whole fandom of toxicity. All I can do is block and search for those who can make my experience here a peaceful and fun one.

So far I haven’t made any friends here. There’s no DMs and it’s just been likes and comments on posts. I try reaching out to Buddie shippers who I think could be pals, and they never respond, or if I mention Tommy it’s dead silent afterwards (ironically the thing they claim to hate that Tommy did to Chimney is what they do to me), and I don’t try again. Most of the buddie shippers who I briefly talk to are ones who have seen how crazy their side of the fandom have started acting. Some of them have even “jumped ship” because of that.

I’m not here to make this whole group thing happen. I came from a fandom where these type of things don’t happen. This is new to me. I only left because the source material is too long and I know I don’t have the dedication or time to consume it fully, and people there respect the source material. I didn’t want to feel like I didn’t belong there, so I left.

I was able to consume the entire source material here. I even enjoyed myself doing it. 911 is one of my top 3 favorite shows ever. I entered this fandom having high hopes of fitting into a community, but as we can see that didn’t happen. I’m not trying to have all of us love each other or even talk to each other, all I’m trying to do is find that small few who can be part of a peaceful community for this one show.

I’m also not asking for any black person or person of color to forgive, only you have the power to do that for yourself.

I really want to find my peace in this fandom. I have blocked so many people, and don’t even try to reach out to others because I know it’s a lost cause, this is just my attempt to find my place here. I hope you can understand that.

#thanks for the ask and sorry for how long it is #unlike some buddie shippers like that Samantha girl I’m not trying to be a symbol #I’m just trying to be a person #911 abc #bucktommy #evan buckley #tommy kinard #eddie diaz #buddie

[shaunashipman]

Have you seen how the buddie shippers are claiming either that Tim didn’t even watch the fan edit because “it was too long and not good” or that he posted is to throw people off and make them think everything is okay with bucktommy when they’ll actually breakup at the end of the season. 😂 Oh! And the newest evidence of bucktommy bones from the show is that buck didn’t mention tommy in the scene where eddie drops Chris at bucks. “If they really cared about developing this relationship they would’ve mentioned him instead of having Buck flirt with eddie about his perfume.” ….. have people never complimented their friend before? especially before a date? also buck seemed very excited for eddie to be going on this date with who he thought was Marisol and also spending the night with her. He literally tells him they won’t wait up. that doesn’t quite strike me as someone who’s so in love with his best friend, even unconsciously. I mean we literally saw how jealous buck gets even when he has an unconscious crush. And who was that crush on? Tommy! And who’s tommy? Buck’s boyfriend, in canon not fanon! Also the narrative purpose of the perfume line was def to show us that Eddie isn’t just trying to be friends with Kim. he’s doing little things like putting on the nice cologne, etc etc, bc he’s attracted to her and wants her to be into him.

ok well then by that first logic i'm gonna say that tim didn't even look that hard at the vertigo poster before he posted it and only realized oliver's name was there after someone pointed it 🤷‍♀️

and posting bucktommy to throw ppl off the scent of buddie? you mean like how he used buddie in ep4 to throw ppl off the scent of bucktommy? the thing that they can't seem to grasp even when tim spells it out in b&w? but they now think he's doing secretly?

someone else theorized that they shot 2 endings to ep6, cause they weren't sure of the reception, and probably still didn't know while filming ep7, that's why there's no mention of tommy. I don't know enough about the shooting schedule to know if that's a viable theory, but it makes some sense to me, cause they were taking a big risk, which seems to have paid off

hard agree on the perfume thing. I like to joke that it's because eddie likes to pour it on, cause i'm a perfume hater and think you shouldn't be able to smell it unless you're right next to the person, which buck wasn't. but yeah, it was to reinforce that dinner with kim was a date™, not somehow a platonic meet up where he's gonna confess that she looks just like his dead wife oh and also he's not single he has a serious girlfriend

#cleo gets mail #anonymous #911 #911 critical #bucktommy #anti buddie

[ladystoneboobs]

y’know, whatever the true parentage of aegon vi aka young griff, in a way he is more like rhaegar than jon snow is. by which i mean their attempts to force themselves into archetypal roles, rhaegar as the prophesied hero against supernatural dark forces and yg as the hidden-prince-in-exile come to save the country and restore peace and harmony by taking the throne.

rhaegar’s very existence is owed to a prophecy, when the ghost of high heart said the ptwp would come of aerys/rhaella’s line they were forced to get married by their father. his destiny was decided and agreed before he was born, as just a hypothetical male prince. bc ofc this promised prince must be a son born with a cock, right? no one ever looked for or expected a princess for this. and when he was born during the mysterious tragedy at summerhall, what could be more of a sign that the prophecy was fulfilled? no need to keep waiting for any more kids, anyone further down the line, this baby had such a dramatic entrance he has got to be the specialest boy of all. rhaegar likely knew all of this from a very young age. grandpa jaehaerys ii believed enough to force his kids to marry, so he wouldn’t want this important planning to go to waste by taking it to his grave, now, would he? was rhaegar reading all the time bc his favorite genre was old prophecy scrolls or was he always doing homework to become the hero he knew he already was? does it really matter when either way he never really had much choice in his role in life? one day he finally goes to train with the master-at-arms only bc he realized from his reading that he “must” be a warrior. he became as great at that as he was at anything else, according to ser barry, but he never enjoyed knighthood. 

to me that’s all a far cry from jon, who grew up idolizing daeron the young dragon and dreaming of glory and conquest. jon, who spent most of his waking hours training in the yard even when injured at the end of asos, just bc he didn’t know what else to do and it helped him blow off steam. jon, who had a nostalgic “hunger” in him when hearing the sound of swords in the yard as lc. the same guy who as of acok still couldn’t get why sam would consider old books and crumbling scolls to be treasure. jon, who has nothing but doubts once he does rise to power and herodom as lord commander and can’t conquer them. and most importantly, jon, the hero who chanced into his role as shield guarding the realms of men only bc ned won the fight at the toj after rhaegar died and took him to be raised in the north. if/when jon does return to life and take his place as a heroic head of the dragon, that role can only be his own choice, not one he was raised for his entire life, just as his membership in the night’s watch was ultimately his own choice based on his northern childhood. (jon’s conception may have also been prophecy-related, but beyond that, his path and rhaegar’s sharply diverged.)

know who was shaped for a royal destiny “since before he could walk”, though? that’s right, aegon in essos aka young griff. his destiny was already chosen for him by the schemes of illyrio/varys just as rhaegar’s was by grampy jae ii and other dragon prophecy nerds before him. he studied his scrolls and trained with the royal master-at-arms just as aegon studied in the routines of his entourages and was trained by knights of the golden company.

and, at some point, we know rhaegar realized he wasn’t the ptwp and decided it was his first son, aegon, instead. mostly bc a comet was seen the night of aegon’s conception. i remember seeing a post years ago saying rhaegar must have spotted the comet that night, run naked straight to elia, and declared they had to get babymaking asap bc the comet was a sign too significant to be ignored. a joke post, prob, but i feel like there’s prob a lot of truth to the idea of rhaegar desparetely forcing the signs to add up, concieving a child on that night after he’d already seen the comet rather than just happening to have sex with elia on the same night there just happened to be a comet sighting. i believe this bc why would it all just be lucky coincidence if aegon vi was not the ptwp? lbr now, whether he indeed got his head smashed in by the mountain or was switched out and sent to essos, rhaegar’s elder son was/is not the promised hero. (just like rhaegar himself could not be the pwtp, after all.) a previously-thought-dead-for-16-years newbie with shaky parentage credentials introduced this late in the game is not going to steal both jon’s and dany’s thunder like that, c’mon. so a comet appearing just for his conception feels about as likely as red rahloo actually killing 3 kings just for the sake of frickin’ stannis. it’s even possible that rhaegar later decided aegon might not be the ptwp either and put more stock in dragon head #3 bc of the whole ice and fire union aspect with lyanna. we just don’t have enough info about that part of the story to know for sure. but there’s no suggestion he was unhappy with elia beforehand or that either of them thought she could not bear more children until the maesters actually said so after aegon’s birth. and even if he was “right” about lyanna’s child being the most important one (ew), he was still counting on both aegon and rhaenys to be the other two heads of the dragon, and presumably planned to raise all 3 of them for their destiny together in kl as he had been. in which case his plans utterly failed, because that is just not at all what happened with any of those kids.

in that sense, death is what jon and his bio dad most have in common as they both walked fairly boldly and blindly into their doom. but the circumstances are still a bit different as jon was murdered in a mutiny rather than killed in battle, not to mention his likely resurrection as an actual hero of prophecy. despite being around 10 years older than either jon or aegon is presently, i’d say rhaegar was even more naively overconfident in his plans than jon was in his final moments. to go that quickly and without any known hesitation through each change of plans from simply being ptwp himself to becoming a warrior as well as a weirdo nerd to fathering 3 heads of the dragon to truly fulfill prophecy to organizing a political coup at harrenhal to honoring lyanna instead to eloping with her after aegon’s birth to make her wife #2 and mother of dragon head #3 to riding off to one definitve battle against cousin robert after hiding in his lovenest with lyanna for months, idk, that does not read to me as someone suffering the same questions and doubts jon did in the nw. rhaegar told jaime “when this battle’s done” not “if i return in victory” in their farewell. he had no back-up plans in case of his defeat, leaving elia with aerys and lyanna in the toj, no plans for how to protect either wife or any of his all-important prophesied progeny in the event of his loss, just as he had no immediate plans to deal with aerys yet. (compare that to idealistic young king robb stark, thought to be recklessly honorable and accused of thinking himself invincible in his youth, yet he still managed to make plans for his succession should he die childless in battle, and planned to put his wife and mother in strongholds held by trustworthy (sane) allies who could defend their positions for some time in his absence.) all that only makes sense to me if he always thought he’d still have time for all that later, never truly envisioning the possibility of house targ being overthrown so soon when all his hero kids were still babies. 

after all, whether he was the ptwp himself or only meant to raise the 3 promised dragon heads as heroes, surely their destiny was already written years before and he couldn’t go out in such a mundane way, right? i’d say aegon/yg shows the same kind of overconfidence in going along with all the gc’s changes in planning, from whatever varys/illyrio originally wanted with viserys iii alive to finding dany and marrying her after the birth of her dragons to leaving for an invasion of westeros first to conquer the stormlands himself before wedding dany as equals. he never imagined she could refuse him until tyrion told him so, and imo is still not grasping that his female relation could prove more important than him in westeros with her 3 dragons. rhaegar may have known he was doomed since his tragic birth among so much death and later knew he wasn’t the pwtp, but he likely still expected a higher doom, one as dramatic and magical as his birth at summerhall. he couldn’t imagine his chest being caved in by lyanna’s dumbass ex, his boorish cousin robert, just as aegon/yg can’t know what doom could be in store for him in westeros either. 

#valyrianscrolls #asoiaf #asoiaf meta #Rhaegar Targaryen #aegon vi targaryen #jon snow #young griff #jonathan snowflake starkgaryen #i know ive said i stay in my lane but i dont think targnation owns a monopoly either and this isn't really rhaegar hate #i even agree w the shippers on some things! #its just that idt he should be credited as right abt everything when 1/3 of his kids became a hero in a way he never expected #imo thats a bit like saying mel switching from stannis to jon would mean she was right all along #dreams of dragons #(c)lsb #happy figures of prophecy on flying firebreathers friday!

[fiovske]

liking star wars is partly crying over obi-wan as a neat little study in grief and partly dodging obi/kin shippers as a form of extreme sport

#I didn't even know this... thing existed until jack told me wbt it a couple of weeks ago #like seeing hayden and ewan as like. older dudes. i get why ppl ship it. #i don't like it and i dont agree. but its two good looking men and shippers are predictable as hell. #so i see where its coming from. #but on god obi wan sees anakin as his brother. he says so himself. #he raised anakin all by himself and obi wan was in his 20s when anakin was a 9 year old or smth #its so weird to ship them like. the man raised anakin. he is his older brother. #why are u guys such weirdos that you have to ship it like it makes no sense to me #bc caring for someone as your own brother. it sickens me to dilute something as strong as #a familial bond. something sort of a complicated sibling relationship even in adopted terms doesn't make it any less significant #it just does Not sit right with me pals. #and it feels weird to me.. when its seen through this shallow lens of shipping #love doesn't always have to be romantic to be some 'higher form' of love yall are just cowards #obi wan and anakin's relationship is the foundation of love and betrayal and grief and anger and everything in between #and being platonic doesn't make it any less intense. #tldr: obi/kin is gross and dont interact w me if u ship it end of #anti obikin #do not even LOOK at me if ur into that padawan x master bullshit

[fuumiku]

Chilcille huh... ngl I was a little suspicious. like why would you do that, huh... hope youre not mischaracterizing anyone in your weird and wacky ship. a little weird. but then you said they both had flat asses and you know what? I salute you and your perfect characterization

The fact you seem to think you managed to not make this ask insulting is baffling. What the hell. Fuck off.

If you actually care to be open minded about the ship, I talk about marchil on my sideblog 24/7. Funnily enough I’m currently 4k words deep into an analysis of their character arc together in canon, but that’ll take some more days to get done. Some notable posts:

Of course without counting the analyses of Chilchuck on his own I’ve made, like my masterpost on his family situation. Or better yet you could also read my fics for them, see how weird and wacky they are here.

Wanna talk about mischaracterisation? They’re literally a comedic duo who interacts 24/7. Marchil is crazy bc ppl are like "did those shipper read with their eyes CLOSED?? They have no chemistry!" Meanwhile canon is like: "She’s obsessed with knowing everything she can about him and she reads him like a book." In her eyes he’s like that extra rare and hard and shiny unlockable dating sim character, that brooding mysterious character trope that’s thrilling to crack open and typically is at the center of the plot. The wife roleplay???? "Hey, did you know his type is blondes. Hey did you know he likes his women pretty and blonde. Hey did you know he likes her hair. Hey did you know that he teases her 24/7 and it’s one of the few things that consistently gets him grinning because he finds her reactions cute." Like a schoolyard bully pulling on the pigtails of the girl he likes.

It’s not like they have any thematic narratives or relevance. It’s not like she’ll live to 1000 and has existential dread about it while he’s logically gonna be her next friend to die at 50 and wether it’s romantic or platonic it’ll terrify her to lose him. It’s not like it’s fear of death x fear of rejection so they’re both obsessed with the thought of loss looming, past and ongoing. It’s not like it’s half-elf x half-foot and there’s an inherent journey that was and still is to dispel prejudices and truly come to see each other. It’s not like he’s painfully real and raw and flawed but still a good man, that he’s not the figure of prince charming that she’s always dreamed of while still being virtuous and worth fighting for. Or you know, her hair being golden and it being the epitome of beauty to him, and his hair turning silver and it being Marcille’s worst nightmare.

Just a weird wacky ship who means nothing but shallow things to people who have weirdo reasons for liking it. Like can you not. If you’re not imaginative enough to think of reasons why this ship may have an appealing dynamic that’s not my issue. But yes, yes, they’re both flat asses to me, thanks.

#Dungeon meshi #Ask #Spoilers #dungeon meshi manga spoilers #Marcille donato #chilchuck tims #Marchil #You me the parking lot after i finish and post my arc analysis #Sobbing……… we’re 20 over here in the rarepair pit come on. Like do u not see how obsessed i am. Do u think they like. Mean nothing to me #Do u think it’s all incidental and i slipped and the 10 thousands of words I write for them had no thought or feelings behind them or #Their arc is so beautifuuuuul they come to see each other and her standards become more real while he allows hope and openness #Into his heart again 😭😭 not the way two of their scenes lowkey read as a proposal… #Anyways I hope this makes it clear I’ll fight to my dying breath for them. #I don’t want trouble and i imagine you don’t either so just don’t come shitting on my doorstep #In positive news my fic Grind Me Down Sweetly recently reached 100 likes and 1k hits <3 it can also be read as just platonic so if you like #Them as a duo even as friends give it a shot #Every time I see someone shitting on marchil I start making marchil content faster btw #Not art

[strayoblivion]

shut up (and kiss me) (f.l.)

➵ pairing: felix lee x reader / idol!skz / non.idol!you ➵ 1,194 words / fluff 🌸 / reader calls felix ‘lix’, felix calls the reader ‘buttercup’ / chan is still the biggest shipper ➵ your first kiss with felix went a little something like this... [masterlist ❣️]

the night had played out to be exactly the way he had hoped. after months of harbouring his emotions in secret, to finally coming out to tell you about it, having you reciprocate them and agree to going on a date with him... and another, and another–soon, he’s able to call you his for weeks now. yet, he has yet to feel how soft your lips would be on his; would he be able to feel your smile against his own? today was the day he would get that answer (fingers crossed).

felix wanted the moment to be perfect. spoiler: it wasn’t.

dinner was eaten ages ago; the dorm was empty with numerous supportive messages from the boys (and some downright slandering his name for possibly failing before he had tried–screw you, han!). there’s no better moment than now. the movie playing in front of the both of you seems to be fading from felix’s mind. the voices of the actors zoom out and he only focuses on the way you take calm intakes of air, pressed lightly against his side.

it seems like you notice he was staring when you peek up from leaning against him, offering a small smile, “you okay there, lix?”

he clears his throat and nods, despite his eyes shakily looking away from you.

“y-yeah, buttercup. i’m fine.”

you chuckle and sit up, leaning away just a bit too far for his liking and eye him up and down, raising a brow as you fold your arms in front of your chest, “you don’t look fine...” not even the way you try to joke with him can get him to loosen up, “i mean, you do like fine, if you know what i mean, but you don’t look like you’re actually fine.”

he laughs, albeit seemingly forced as his lips press together to a thin line. at the way he’s not looking at you, unable to meet with your gaze and how his body stiffens with the arm around your shoulders is what makes you more sensitive to how he’s acting. it’s been an amazing few weeks since you agreed to be his; since he’s officially yours to claim but... today feels a little off.

he’s not as carefree as he usually was. a bit tighter and restricted. it makes you wonder if it’s due to the change of your relationship dynamic from platonic to romantic. if... something, someway, somehow, things weren’t the same anymore. it only makes you move your arms to hug yourself, swallowing the lump in your throat to ask him softly: “i-is there something wrong?”

felix robotically turns his head to look at you, only now noticing the way your eyes seem sad–oh no. no no no–he removes his arm from your shoulders so he can turn to face you properly. he licks his lips and shakes his head, gaping when it was now your turn to not be able to meet with his gaze.

“you’re usually more chatty around me but today you’ve gone quiet,” he hates the way your voice cracks in between your syllables, how you’re trying to create the distance between your bodies, “i... is it me?” felix wants you to stop talking–please stop talking, it’s not what you think–”is there something you want to tell me?”

at the opportunity, felix jumps to answer: “yes.”

in your mind, this is where it ends.

in felix’s, this is where it begins.

“i... i uh...” he clasps his hands on his lap, fiddling with his fingers, “i... wanna kiss you.”

at your silence, he unlocks his hands so he can use one to rub the back of his neck, meekly peeking up to see your reaction. at the way you’re gaping at him, in utter surprise makes him snort.

“w-what? why’re you looking at me like that?”

“i... i could’ve sworn you were trying to break up with me,”

his eyes widen, to the point it looks like he’s confused.

“are you crazy?” his voice squeaks up in the end; as it always does when he’s surprised. based on how you’re still in disbelief, it makes him rethink. he doesn’t have to think, though, when you fill out the answers in his mind.

“you’ve been a bit distant lately so i thought... i was preparing myself for you to break up with me and–”your voice is all jumbled up, stuck in your throat with the words that disappear when you finally process what’s going on. a hand on your cheek to keep you still, another hand rooting you down by the shoulder as felix’s soft lips press against yours. from being slightly open midway, your lips melt into the shape of his as you succumb into the kiss. 

it starts off a bit rushed, awkwardly finding the pace between urgency and excitement. then, it slows when felix finds his breath along yours; him smiling when he feels you smiling that it breaks the kiss naturally because you two were smiling too hard to continue kissing.

with a shaky breath, felix leans his forehead against yours, eyes opening after he realises he had them closed. he meets with your eyes; how the sadness was washed away, replaced with this warmth that makes his heart swell at the sight. he always, always like that he’s able to see his reflection in your eyes if he stares long enough.

“sorry, i wanted to ask before i did it but,” he exhales, shaking his head, “that’s what i’ve been wanting to do for the longest time now.”

you chuckle and carefully put your arms around his neck and he shifts closer, lining his nose along yours. your voice breathes the life back into his lungs when your hesitance earlier dissolves into the familiar humour you had, “not break up with me?”

“you’re really an idiot if you thought i was going to break up with you,” he deadpans, in a tone so serious that it makes you laugh even more. it feels silly now, but it feels perfect.

“can i...” his voice is delicate, precious, “can i kiss you again?”

“you don’t have to ask, lix.”

with that, the hand felix had cupped your cheek with slides down to gently hold your chin so he can lean in to kiss you again.

felix wanted the moment to be perfect. spoiler: it wasn’t. update: it would always be perfect as long as it was with you.

//

[bang bang 🔫] | 10:21PM: AS YOUR BIGGEST SHIPPER, JUST A CRUMB OF UPDATE, PLS

[chang binnie 🐷] | 10:24PM: he’s been trying since an hour ago lol pls reply back so he doesn’t explode in this group chat

[felix 🐣] | 10:30PM: ✅✅✅

[bang bang 🔫] | 10:31PM: OH MY GOD

[bang bang 🔫] | 10:31PM: IT

[bang bang 🔫] | 10:32PM: YOU FUCKING DID IT IM SO PROUD

[chang binnie 🐷] | 10:32PM: can we come home now pls

[felix 🐣] | 10:33PM: oh we left, ya’ll can come home

[bang bang 🔫] | 10:34PM: WHERE DID YOU GO???

[han quokka 🐿] | 10:35PM: hyung pls leave them alone

[bang bang 🔫] | 10:35PM: WHY IS YOUR LOCATION OFF???

#legend says chan is still bugging him for answers until this day LOL #felix scenarios #felix lee #felix x reader #lee felix #felix lee x reader #felix fluff #felix x you #lee felix x you #lee felix x y/n #stray kids scenarios #stray kids fanfics #stray kids reactions #skz drabbles #skz #skz reactions #skz scenarios

[milburnandnyman]

SEX EDUCATION S4 *SPOILERS AHEAD*

Because I just binged the whole thing and I indeed cannot get past not commenting on it.

Spoilers begin from here on…

Let me just say that… I am disappointed with this season. And kinda in general (the entire Cavendish part felt so forced, I really missed seeing more of the old characters and the old setting and I wish other endings were happier, too), but obviously as a Jeankob shipper, that Jean storyline left me with a knot in my stomach.

I know things definitely didn’t seem promising from whatever glimpse we could get beforehand, but this was just so loose and forced and empty I could cry.

I immediately assumed they maybe could not get Mikael Persbrandt to do S4, because this storyline just makes absolutely no sense to me otherwise. If this was intended all along as is, then it is complete bullshit.

They literally built up this couple from S1 onward and made them struggle so much, while simultaneously letting us know how much they love one another, I was 100% convinced that in the very end they would get their happy ending no matter what. Love just had to win for once. And what actually happened seemed as if they just picked up all there ever was and dismissed it completely, tearing it apart.

This only makes sense to me if they had to “fix it” last minute and write Jakob out, because Mikael would not be there to do it. Because explain to me three seasons of chemistry and growth, explain to me all the S3 moments (especially the S3!), everyone indicating that Jean and Jakob love one another, the therapist, Maureen’s “Jakob adores you”, Ruby’s “you’re a good loking couple”, then the treehouse (I cannot believe they had the nerve to shit on that this season, calling it “creepy”), I thought the “you didn’t finish the treehouse” bit was there almost as a guarantee that he will indeed finish it in the future along with his promise to Otis “I’m not going anywhere”. The way Ola named the baby Joy, the Jean Jakob Joy - are you kidding me? The way Jean was so sure about Jakob being the father from the VERY beginning - “but he’s had a vasectomy”, “it seemed fated”, agreeing to the dna test without a single question, being surprised when reading the actual result, probably being able to CALCULATE as a smart woman and also, I think she literally kept the baby, because it was meant to be her and Jakob’s, because she loved the man, I’m sure she wouldn’t keep it if she doubted it was his, oh and also… I assume she definitely used protection with all her one night stands as a sex therapist, but I always assumed she stopped using it with Jakob, because they were an exclusive couple and she trusted the vasectomy. It seems literally impossible to me that she would not doubt it even once.

So, I was certain there would be some games around this paternity plot, maybe make us believe Jakob is not the father, but then something would happen and it would be revealed as a mistake or something. Then Jean and Jakob would both have “done wrong” in some way, she cheated in the past and then he left her over the dna test - they’d finally be kinda “equal” in hurting one another. And maybe realize that despite it all, they still love one another deeply and they have to leave the past behind and make it work.

And I cannot believe that instead of that we just got a very loose storyline about the baby daddy, no real explanation, just some brief crap “95% sure” and that ending of “a part of me always knew it wasn’t his, but” - I am sorry, but the Jean I knew from previous seasons would never even go to Jakob if she had even a glimpse of a doubt. She struggled telling him in the first place. So, making Dan the baby daddy in the end just felt so forced and disappointing, while mentioning Jakob only briefly + the way Jean was already unhappy for the majority of her screen time, it was sad to watch. I enjoyed some parts with Jean and her sister and getting to know more about their past etc., but all in all, her story this season was just depressing and this to me is anything but a happy ending. It’s not “finishing strong and hard”. It’s “I’m gonna pretend there’s no S4”.

I will however forever be grateful to the creator for giving us this couple, I have rooted for them from the very beginning and it is crushing to know that this is it, I am deeply sad about this ending and I think I’m going to need some happy fanfics to make it better or some past season rewatches. Because I cannot accept this. It feels like we’ve been left with absolutely nothing, robbed of it all.

So, to conclude: in my head, SexEd ends with S3 and Jeankob’s story wraps up with Jakob attending the therapy and deciding to trust again, being there for Jean at birth, Jean surviving the birth, there’s no fucking DNA test, just both of them reuniting afterwards, talking it through and forgiving one another and they make. it. work. Because they deserve it. And they live out their love, while raising their daughter.

So, with all due respect… today is a very bittersweet day. And I wish it were different.

#jean milburn #jakob nyman #gillian anderson #mikael persbrandt #sex education #jean x jakob #jeankob #sex education season 4

[burst-of-iridescent]

so sorry you've been getting these anons ana :( i thought as a native i could give my two cents on the fire lady katara trope? ill admit im more of a casual zutara shipper, so i havent seen a good chunk of the fandom, but ill give it my thoughts. for me personally, i am not a fan of fire lady katara- it's not particularly to do with the trope itself, but the execution often done by the fandom. ive discussed this with other natives before, but sometimes in the fire lady trope, it is often that katara moves to the fire nation, that she wears fire nation clothes and is surrounded by fire nation culture. obviously, that isn't wrong! the sharing of culture is a beautiful thing, but there is a good majority of fics where it feels like her water tribe culture is forgotten, that she is made to move permanently to the fire nation in favour of zuko. specifically in a post war climate, where a good majority of the people in the fire nation would still hold onto imperialist and racist beliefs, the idea of katara living there permanently is uncomfortable. i moved out of my mostly native village into a nearly fully white uni, and it's scary, and so when i apply those thoughts to katara living in the fire nation, its uncomfortable. and as for the rest, it's mainly just how sometimes it feels like the fandom doesn't value her culture as much as zukos, even unconsciously- it often feels like the fandom values the perceived glamour and power of the fire nation royalty, and finds fire nation culture more understandable than anything water tribe, and so prefer to have katara in a setting that is more 'easy' for them. in hand with this, is often the fandom perception that the water tribe is less progressive than the fire nation, that they are sexist and that zuko is giving katara a better life (i will say that this is not something i have not seen often, especially recently, but it is something i have discussed w people so i thought id mention it, especially since its usually not intentional). sorry this got so long, i went on a bit of a ramble but obviously this isn't the be all end all. like you said, there are lots of people who are fine, or enjoy fire lady katara because they perceive or write it differently, and that is fine! everyone perceives media differently, just like some people will be uncomfortable with zutara, some might not be. i just thought id send this as a reason why some of us do dislike the trope, and things to keep in mind when ppl are writing it

hi anon, thank you so much for sharing this with me! i really appreciate you taking the time to write out your thoughts and offer your perspective on this.

i definitely agree that the fire lady katara trope can be executed in some exceedingly problematic ways. there are many zutara fics that i've clicked out of for the reasons that you've mentioned, especially older ones that were written around when the show aired or shortly after. i won't deny at all that there are ways people write the zutara relationship that make me profoundly uncomfortable. my problem arises when someone assumes that the trope itself is inherently racist or wrong, instead of understanding that it can be written in a variety of ways by a variety of people, who bring their own perspectives - and prejudices - to their individual portrayals.

what you said about moving from your mostly native village to a fully white university really struck a chord with me because (although it's not the same, and can never be) i can really sympathize with those feelings of alienation and sudden lack of belonging. i'm part of the desi diaspora myself, and i've grown up in a country where i've always been the minority, and had to deal with racism and ignorance, so your experience really spoke to me. i hope that doesn't come across like i'm trying to co-opt your struggle or anything like that, because that was not my intention at all. i just wanted to let you know that i can understand what a scary feeling it is, even if not exactly in the same way.

that being said, personally if i could choose between spending my life in india or growing up overseas, i would still choose to do the latter even if it meant living through the bigotry and ostracization i've experienced again. i love the life i've built here, though it's a more difficult one than what i could've led back home.

in the context of atla, i agree that katara would most likely face racism and discrimination in the fire nation, at least in the immediate years following the war. but personally i also find a very empowering narrative in seeing her confront and dismantle the prejudices within the fire nation system, just as she did with the sexism of the northern water tribe. katara wouldn't abide bigotry in any form, and i think fighting inequality is a battle that she would want to take on, and would willingly choose to take on whether she ended up with zuko or not. that's why i take issue with the insistence that her becoming queen of the fire nation inherently equates to her victimization, because it can also very much be a power fantasy, and i know many woc who do see it as such.

(of course, that is just my own perspective, and i completely understand why others see it differently and might not be comfortable with it. their feelings are just as valid and legitimate.)

ultimately, i think correctly executing the fire lady katara trope isn't just about katara herself valuing her culture, but zuko doing it as well. i love seeing explorations of the trope (and the zutara relationship in general) where zuko takes an active interest in katara's heritage, incorporates her traditions and practices into his own life and home, and involves himself in her culture just as much as she involves herself in his. zutara is a ship that has always been about equality to me, and that's something that can and should carry over to how they blend their cultures together. like you said, there is nothing wrong in katara wearing fire nation clothes, or being surrounded by fire nation culture - so long as she isn't the only one in the relationship taking an interest in her partner's heritage. thankfully, in most zutara content i've seen, she isn't.

in my own personal view of katara becoming fire lady, it happens only years after the war ends. she spends her time postwar travelling the world and kicking ass, empowering women in the north to learn waterbending, rebuilding the southern water tribe, meeting and learning from everyone she can. when she becomes fire lady, she continues to travel often - home, of course, but also to the other nations when necessary, using her skill of inspiring and motivating others, and her desire to help the less fortunate, in matters of international diplomacy. when she returns, her husband is in blue, and her children wear whalebone beads in their hair, and there are fire flakes next to stewed sea prunes on her dining table. there are hard times, but there is also love and respect, and so she changes the world as she damn well deserved to in canon.

#zutara #fire lady katara

[dailytwsttweets]

My most hated characterization has to be when people make Malleus as this Gary sue and pit him against Ace for the sole purpose that the author obviously dislikes Ace and thinks Mallyuu is morally superior to AceYuu. And also ppl making Ace to be a bigger pick than he is by either, a.) Making him a two faced cunt who would immediately switch sides in replaced Yuu aus (which is another thing I super fucking dislike!!) and b.) Makes him super fucking stupid for some weird reason (I do understand why ppl would think he would not catch immediately if Yuu is afab or not bc why would he? NRC is a all-boys school but I think people are forgetting he immediately understood what was going on w Trey and Riddle and immediately called him out on it??? Also he had a GIRLFRIEND FFS I think he would immediately know is they were a girl!! Same goes for Deuce as well!!! You really think he wouldn't when he's a mama's boy of all things????) or even c.) Make him a cheating bastard who would ditch Yuu for all the wrong reasons. (he would leave Yuu, but he'd never cheat on them. Is what I firmly believe.)

Ace haters are so weird I agree with all of this and I’m not even the biggest Aceyuu shipper (you technically don’t have to be to agree how odd it is to make him like this). Calling Ace an asshole is literally odd and acting like he’d get upset at Yuu for liking Malleus. Same with Malleus like why are we pitting them against each other? I don’t have the words atm I apologize

#🪐 #twisted wonderland #twst #ace trappola #malleus draconia #why am I getting so many asks #not complaining

[percyssunlithope]

Question. do you think Percy should have stayed Single? Or ended up with somebody other than Annabeth? I Really think he should have stayed Single. Because I personally don't Like Percabeth, I don't Ship Percabeth and I don't Like Annabeth at all because of the way the Shippers act, or The way the characters themselves in Canon Act, like how Percy just does whatever Annabeth says, or how Percy is scared of Annabeth, Or how fans make it seem like Percy would become an Emo Edge Lord if something happened to Annabeth, Or How much she Belittles and Degrades him (I hate the nickname Seaweed brain), Especially since she acts like Percy cant do anything without her That moment when She and Reyna were talking about how ("Percy Couldn't find his way out of a Paper Bag without you")Made me SO mad it made me Dislike Annabeth even more and Dislike the Percabeth Ship as a Whole, I even hated when she Pretty much Restricted percy of using his powers You Know? "The sea doesn't like to be Restrained" well here it is.. being restrained...Exactly what it hates, and I hate how the Fandom makes Percabeth a Godly Ship saying they are the "It Couple" which they aren't and how They treat anyone who doesn't like Percabeth or Ships Percy with someone else other then Annabeth, but the one thing I HATE the most is how they make EVERYTHING percy Does Romantic for Annabeth like she's the only person who matters to him (Percy Only Remembering Annabeth (a Girl he's Known for only a couple years) Instead of The woman Who RAISED him by a goddess who isn't even the goddess of Love Made me SO MAD and Even when Annabeth made Percy remember when he was in the River Styx when it should have been his Mom made me mad) which is why I mostly believe that Percy Should have just stayed Single (I'm all for an Aromantic Percy) or At least Give him a Love interest who he can be Comfortable around and doesn't have to Constantly walk on Eggshells around her (I wished he Dated Rachel) or Hell Even make him Gay i've saw characters who have Better chemistry with Percy then Annabeth IMO but this all just my opinion.

@famousblazeperfection

A little bit of context on whether I do or don't ship Percabeth:

when I read the book for the first time, I was fourteen and knew nothing about healthy and unhealthy relationships, so I shipped them. Percabeth shippers influenced everything I found cute about Percabeth on the internet. I was horrified when I found out that Percabeth was toxic, but it was relatively easy to believe. Because I always had this nagging feeling about it, and it felt like I was forcing myself to like something that was mainstream even though I subconsciously did not like it.

I'm gonna cut the post here!

And I agree with all of those points you made about Percabeth in your question.

“(Percy Only Remembering Annabeth (a Girl he's Known for only a couple years) Instead of The woman Who RAISED him by a goddess who isn't even the goddess of Love Made me SO MAD and Even when Annabeth made Percy remember when he was in the River Styx when it should have been his Mom made me mad)”

YES! However, I saw a specific post that argued that Hera only made Percy remember Annabeth to manipulate him. So this point is weird for me. But I do agree with your side. And the River Styx thing—preach. You're so right about that. It should have been His mom that was his mortal spot. Because she was mortal and the first person who consistently cared for him.

So back to the original question, this is a talk I had with my friend in real life. She believed that Percabeth was one of those couples that get together but break up. And I agree with it.

I feel like some couples get together for the heck of it—even if they're not compatible. But then they break up because they are not what the other needs. And Percabeth falls under this category. I feel like Perachel had a much more logical reason to get together. In this context, Percy would take a while to realize that it is toxic (I doubt Rick would even make him realize that because of how popular Percabeth is).

Why Perachel?

Percy is a demigod. Rachel is a mortal. They do give each other what they need (and there's a lot of potential for angst, but I digress).

Percy never wanted to be a demigod. He's always wanted to be safe and happy. He didn't want to go on any more quests. He just wanted to stay with his mom and not worry about the world ending. And I think if he wanted to get into a relationship, he’d want to get together with someone who is not overly involved with the demigod side of him. Right before the Titan War, Rachel provided that escape from the demigod side. And he thought about her a lot, too. He thought she looked like a million drachmas, and he felt at ease talking to her. Percy gives her a way to find her purpose and introduces her to the demigod world which reassures her that she isn't going insane.

Next point:

If he did not find someone who is disconnected from the demigod world—either because people are too scared to approach him because of his intimidating aura, or he couldn't get with Rachel because she was the oracle (which is bullshit because why the fuck should an oracle, not date anyone?), or they are scared of what getting involved with him would entail—and has to end up finding someone in the demigod world,

For that situation, I'd argue that Nico would be a very good potential partner (and angs—WHO’S TALKING?). Nico liked him (a lot) and didn't get scared of him when he was at his scariest when he saw it (the kidnapping thing in TLO). Nico didn't try to stop him either (but then again, he could have been too shocked to react, but I don't think he would've stopped Percy even if he wasn't shocked). And Percy cares about him a lot, too. I don't think I need to underline what Percy did for Nico over PJO (but tell me if you need it because I know (a) pretty good post(s) about it, albeit I need to search for it). Although, I would argue that they'd get together when they're older.

I don't know what bullshit that HoO made them into because it's very ooc for Percy not to care and trust Nico and for Nico to go, “You're not my type.” (Percy was very ooc for the entirety of HoO except in a few select places and CotG; I should have realized that when I couldn't connect to the series as consistently I did with PJO; that's a topic for another day).

To conclude, Percy should have either gotten together with Rachel/Nico or Percabeth is the type of relationship that doesn't last long.

#asksered #anti percabeth #perachel #pernico

[celaenaeiln]

Batgirl/Nightwing Barbara Gordon and Dick Grayson is literally the worst. Even worse that there are people who ship both Oracle/Nightwing and Batgirl/Nightwing when like their personalities are completely different, it feels like people are willing to ship them together just because they are Dick and Babs.

Honestly I feel like it’s unfair to talk about Batgirl/Nightwing because I feel like the majority of people agree that Oracle/Nightwing is better but I wouldn’t say I like it much either. There are some good panels between them but honestly it always felt more friendly like the thing that always irked me about them is that there will we or won’t we is so tiring, especially when you have so many other couples who have valid reasons for being star crossed, their arguments and fears always felt juvenile and annoying and then when they are together there is something that just feels off in their dialogue or tone of the ways things are written for both characters. There’s also this thing that shippers do where they make both characters finding a home in each other or being each others safety net which doesn’t really feel true to their characters because their are so many other characters that played a bigger role in Dick’s and Barbara’s life compared to what role Dick and Barbara had in each others lives (this is why I also hate the retcon that they were childhood friends because they weren’t! They didn’t grow up together!) And I don’t care about the age gap, like people can meet as adults and develop feelings for each other but like it makes no sense to me what they would see in each other that makes those feelings go from friendship to romance other then it just does. Like all the skills they can do other characters can also do and a lot of their character traits that they have other characters have as well, like what makes these two characters look at each other and desire the other. That chemistry and desire has always been lacking for me when they are together. Like it feels like just two Barbie dolls being smashed together with writing telling me I have to like them together meanwhile I’m just scratching my head.

You talked a lot about Dick but honestly there are many things that he has done that makes me wonder why Babs would want him.

It’s sad because Dick and Babs are such cool characters but when they are together I’m so bored!!!! Barbara deserves an interesting love interest and a love interest that can be just as complicated and messy as she!

"it feels like just two Barbie dolls being smashed together with writing telling me I have to like them together meanwhile I’m just scratching my head."

OMG LITERALLY I'VE SAID THE EXACT THING ALMOST WORD FOR WORD IN ANOTHER POST.

Honestly everything you said is so true.

There's physically no possible way to like both Oracle and Batgirl and still respect the Dick and Barbara. I'm not a big fan of Oracle/Nightwing either but I like them much, much more than Batgirl/Nighwing.

The safety net thing is the biggest crutch for Dickbabs. DC is trying to push them as if they'll always catch each other but that's only true in the physical sense like literally grab the other out of mid-air. Emotionally the wishy-washy behavior is tiring and emotionally draining and neither of them come out of it happy.

It makes me mad when DC has Dick claim that Barbara is Dick's best friend

Wally's stewing moodily on Dick's couch when he heard. He'll probably be like "I made you best man at my wedding and you calling her your best friend?"

The Flash (1987) Issue #142

Dick'll be like "W

Wally...I swear-"

Wally: "I made you best man! TWICE!!"

Not to mention, Dick and Barbara before the retcon didn't even know each other's superhero identities! I think it might've been the Legends of the Dark Knight comic but Dick's hanging out with his friends when he runs away to the bathroom with Congresswoman Gordon enters the place because "Robin and Dick Grayson can't be seen in the same place!" Barbara also says something in her point of view when they're fighting crime.

EXACTLY!! They do their best work separately. But together their personalities are an awful combo and it really makes me mad.

Yeah, I know I'm biased towards Dick but the reason I took Dick's side is because while Dick may have done things to Barbara, the majority of the transgressions are against him in their relationship. I don't know DC writers constantly nerf him when they're together or why they write Barbara so awful in a relationship when she's fine otherwise. The only thing I know that was wrong from her perspective is during that Devin Grayson scene. But that's just one of the worst writings of his character that I've seen (post).

Barbara deserves someone like Jason Bard

Batgirl (2016) Issue #42

Someone she can save and whose skillset won't be overlapping. Someone she can be strong with and will let themselves be commanded without it weakening them. Someone she doesn't have to feel like she's fighting the world over to call hers.

Jason Bard was perfect, sweet, good-looking, and smart for her. He even described him as complicated as a trait she loves about him.

Barbara definitely needs someone who isn't Dick and Dick needs someone who isn't Barbara so that way both their skills and personalities can shine.

#dick grayson #nightwing #barbara gordon #batgirl

[texasbama]

Like I know it can be hit and miss with Tim for some aspects but on a positive note I am actually glad that he is back as showrunner at the moment because he knows how to balance storylines for all the characters and he actually LIKES Ryan/Eddie and Kenny/Chimney and by extension Madney…like KR had no idea what to do with them as characters. And as much as we keep our expectations low when it comes to Buddie atleast with Tim we are bringing the best friends aspect back because as much as KR denied it their dynamic was missing in season 6 to the point people were like “they’re supposed to be best friends?” So that is a positive I’m taking from all this is that with Tim back we can get those dynamics back and more balanced storytelling. And of course the other positive is that the ABC promo/PR team is rocking it to hype everyone up… FOX should be embarrassed.

Very much this, friend. Hard agree on all of it.

I believe Jack said this, but this show has some work to do in repairing the relationship with the audience. These past two seasons, season 6 especially, KR veered away from what makes this show stand out - the main characters.

Kenny even mentioned it in that EW video today! People come for the action but they stay for the ✨love✨. The heart of this show, what sets it apart from other procedurals, is the core relationships. Our firefam is why they have a devoted fanbase.

And one of the core relationships of the show is Buck and Eddie. Romance aside, their friendship and family unit w/Christopher is a huge part of both of these characters lives. So to lose that in such a apparent way is definitely something the audience is going to pick up on.

These relationships are something Tim prides himself on and he should. While it might not be exactly what shippers want, the one thing we know is that he respects the Buck and Eddie dynamic too much to just push them to the side like KR did. He knows what they mean to us. I think its why he made sure to mention right up front that he is giving us our favorite dynamic back.

#911 asks

[kookiecrush]

i’m a tkkr and on the low i do feel like tae feeds us. i don’t see it with ill intent as other people do (obviously jkkrs lol) but i think its more through him just naturally wanting to share and giving no fucks. like i think he knows he’s not giving enough for any actual confirmation so he doesn’t care as much to hide it and filter every tiny thing he says/does even if it makes shippers uproar a bit. and i think bc he gets tagged in so much tkk content it’s probably hard not to interact w it at all

Hmm, I think I'm going to have to disagree with some of what you've said, anon. First of all, I really hate the idea that Tae "feeds us." J*kookers use the phrase "feeding the shippers" to try and discredit Tae and dismiss his actions as calculated and manipulative. The way they now use it whenever they want to question his motives or make him look like an attention seeker is very insidious. They're trying to paint him as someone who is untrustworthy and insincere, as someone who can't be taken seriously.

I don't believe that Tae (or Jungkook) does anything intentionally to "feed" us. I don't think they have us in mind when they say or do certain things, as if they're performing for an audience. I feel like that implies a lack of authenticity about their actions. I think the things that they say and do are for each other, not anyone else. Do they like to..leave little hints at times? Possibly. I think they definitely know that we pick up on things between them, but I don't believe they cater to us or act a certain way just for our benefit.

I agree that Tae likes to share details about his life, and Jungkook just so happens to be a big part of it. It's natural to want to talk about the person you love, isn't it? Especially when you've not been able to for so long. It actually must be pretty hard to keep quiet about someone who you spend a lot of your time with. I think they mention each other because it comes naturally to them, and I think a lot of their moments are just parts of their relationship bleeding through for us to see. Because even though they do their best to keep things hidden, a bond and relationship like theirs is impossible to hide completely.

#ask #taekook #vkook

[dearweirdme]

https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/750269587124256768/httpswwwtumblrcomdearweirdme7502197055964446?source=share

Woah there!!! Please think before you so confidently throw accusations around. I had not sent any asks before this one. Just bcs I agreed with the prev asks, it makes me the same as them? What logic is that? And how am I a jikooker (this is for the person who commented)? Bcs I tried to think of things realistically? Where in my entire ask did I support or even try to say anything in favour of jikook?

I just tried reasoning with you all but seems like you and your commentors are too set on your ways to listen to anyone if it doesn't suit your narrative.

As for the person talking about the hickey thing, did you even read what I wrote before you got so defensive? I said that a hickey was implied, don't pretend it wasn't bcs that moment and "hickey" trended for a reason,so if someday someone spreads some sh*t about jikook, even their ship has a solid ground bcs of official content.

And fyi, I've been in this fandom for 9 years now, and in other k-pop fandoms for longer than that, so I've not only watched "ship" videos, I've watched everything unfold irt. As for taekook in the bg or being in e/os lives, only shippers notice these details ffs. This is what I was saying. It is visible to you, it is different for you.

I was not comparing the realness of the ships. Saying that jikook is safer for bh is not valid bcs of how much background it has. Did anyone go looking into taekook's relationship when taennie happened? If a rumour spreads, people aren't going to start comparing b/w the two to determine which one is more real.

I don't think we can understand each other though bcs you all get so defensive that you stop even trying to understand and start trying to come up with counter arguments on how taekook is different bcs they are always supportive of each other etc

-not a jikooker, not the og anon

Hi anon!

Apologies if you are in fact not the same anon.

Since you are not a shipper, and I think Tae and Jk might be in a relationship, we obviously won’t be agreeing on much. I’ve talked about my thoughts on everything concerning Jkk and Tkk extensively, so if you are interested feel free to look through my blog. I don’t think a conversation between us is possible unless you actually understand what my thoughts are. You clearly come into this conversation thinking this is all brand new information that none of us have ever considered, but not one argument against Tkk is actually new to us. Your ask is not the first ask to disagree with me, neither are the asks that other anon sent. My blog is an ongoing conversation about everything Taekook. I blog under the impression that people who follow me know my thoughts in general (because making disclaimers for everything is just undoable). So when you just drop in randomly under the impression that you know what every Tkkr must believe, you might be mistaken at times.

#taekook #fandom shenanigans #but in all honesty we will never agree because we see things differently

[antlerx-art]

GOOD OMENS 2 EPISODE 6 REACTION - CONTAINS SPOILERS‼️

THE EVERY IS IN THIS EPISODE. YES I’LL KEEP CALLING IT THAT UNTIL IT HAPPENS. IM GOING INSANE.

starting it 👍🏻

aziraphale you’re standing a little too dangerously in that circle remember last time

“you’re not welcome here” DEEP VOICE OOOOOH pity crowley isn’t here to hear it my guy would’ve fainted

HIS ANGEL OUTFIT 💀THE WAY HES RUNNING

yes maggie ROAST her 🙏

“i’ve spent my life being scared of things” 😭

“BRAVER THAN ANYONE I KNOW”YEEEAHHH MY LESBIANS

shax don’t hurt maggie don’t you even THINK of hurting maggie or nina

“my god you lot are pathetic” LOUDERRR GO MAGGIEEE GOOOOO

no wait why can they get in

MAGGIEEEEEEE WHAT HAVE YOU DONEEEE

hehe aziraphale is “perfectly prepared to take defensive action” 😼

“STAY BACK 😠” OHHHH WOW

“you can all leave now, and nobody will be hurt” SO BADASS YEAHHHHHH

rip eric

lol there’s no miracle apparently michael and uriel just can’t notice crowley

noooooo muriel is lonely :(

also crowley comparing angels to bees and aziraphale feeling lonely when he realized he’s an “angel that goes along with heaven as far as he can” in ep 2 is making heaven look like some sort of hivemind and it’s really cool, it also explains why aziraphale is a bit uncomfortable with not having someone to report to after becoming free

CROWLEY WAS AN IMPORTANT ANGELLLLLLL I KNEW IT OHHH MY GOD I THOUGHT IT WAS A STUPID THEORY BUT IT SEEMS TRUE?

aziraphale using the way he discorporated in s1 to discorporate other demons hehe silly

i was about to say that demons can’t possibly be that stupid but aziraphale is reading my mind i guess

AND HE DOESNT HAVE ANOTHER PLAN!

“amen” okay??

gabriel saying nah???? to heaven winning?????

crowley is so doctor who right now

“ARMAGEDDON THE SEQUEL THATS A NAH” 😭 IS THIS WHAT HE WAS PUNISHED FOR??

aziraphale MENTIONING THE FIRE???????

NOOO IT’S TRAUMATIC FOR HIM ☹️

they had a TRIAL?

saraqael knows it’s crowley AND KNEW HIM AS AN ANGEL WHAAAT

“severe measures” no aziraphale you have to say extreme sanctions

“CROWLEY’S EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANGEL”

shax stop making fun of my angel

THE METATRON AT THE TRIAL

UHH why doesn’t gabriel give a fuck about this

“GUYS ENOUGH”? OH MY

“one prince of heaven cast into the outer darkness” DO YOU MEAN. DO YOU MEAN CROWLEY? WAS HE A PRINCE OF HEAVEN????????

junior recoding angel😭 HES ONE CLASS UNDER M U R I E L

crowley’s little punch on their shoulder HES A NICE GUYYY OH HES SO CBBSBDBBD

gabriel is so casual about the trial?? like he just got fired but he didn’t like the job anyway

aziraphale what are you doing

IS HE GOING TO BECOME BIBLICALLY ACCURATE?

THE HALOOOOOO

HE STARTED THE WAR

“YOU WOT?”

just kidding no war apparently

and why is the box full now?????

THE FLYYYYYY that’s what he was writing

BEELZEBUB INVOLVED I K N E W IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT

HEHEEHEHEHHEHE INEFFABLE BUREAUCRACY

yayyy memories are back

SEASON ONE???????

OH GOD THIS SHIP IS REAL?

arma bloody geddon

ahh and they’re too tired to fight so they agreed to just refuse to do it i guess?

and gabe then went to aziraphale’s bookshop because he was the first one to go against armageddon

A PROPOSAL TO MAKE

yes that’s what i thought

i can’t believe gabriel has a deal with beelzebub this fandom keeps winning this season truly is a shipper’s dream

THE SCENEEEEE from the trailer

he actually goes there just to look at the statue for hours💀

THEY WERE AT THE PUB!!! i keep predicting

romantic ineffable bureaucracy date if they *every* before aziracrow i’ll be dead on the floor laughing

GABE PUT THEIR SONG ON

FINGERS TOUCHING

“it’s bigger on the inside” CAN BRITISH PEOPLE STOP. BEING. BRITISH. (jk i love y’all keep making these silly shows🫶🏻)

ROOOOMANCEEEEEE THE WAY THEY LOOK AT EACH OTHER

HES BACK!

if they kiss istg

“SILLY SILLY ANGEL”

HANDS HOLDING???? WHY IS EVERYONE CONFESSING BEFORE AZIRACROW WAKE UPPPPPP

WHY DID IT TAKE YOU GUYS 6000 YEARS AND INEFFABLE BUREAUCRACY MADE IT IN?? SOME MONTHS?

“you will speak one at a time” yummmmy

ALPHA CENTAURY THEY ALWAYS WANTED TO GO THERE

still cant believe they’re canon

THATS THE METATRON

NINA AND MAGGIE TELLING CROWLEY TO CONFESS OOOOOH YESSSS

NINA CALLED MAGGIE ANGEL

ah i suppose the metatron offered aziraphale to be some sort of archangel but hes gonna decline because he wants to be with crowley

ITS ABOUT TO HAPPENNNNNN

no aziraphale HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND?????

yeah as i said

AZIRAPHALE HOW CAN YOU STILL THINK THIS I THOUGHT YOU HAD SOME BIGGER CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

CROWLEY’S CONFESSION IM NOT OKAY

“oh crowley nothing lasts forever” shut. up.

CROWLEY PUTTING THE GLASSES BACK ON AS A SHEILD

YOU GUYS WERE SUPPOSED TO DINE AT THE RITZ AZIRAPHALE YOURE RUINING EVERYTHING

“i need you!” THEN STAY YOU DUMBASS

NO NIGHTINGALE? STOP IM ABOUT TO THROW UP

WE COULD’VE BEEN US

THE EVERY

THE EVERY OH GOD

THE FUCKING EVERY HAPPENED OH MY GOD BUT ITS SO SAD WHYYYYYYYYY

THIS IS WHY I DIDNT WANT IT TO BE IN THE LAST EPISODE AND EVEN LESS IN THE LAST SCENE I NEED HELP

“I FORGIVE YOU” / “DONT BOTHER”

NEIL GAIMAN PAY MY THERAPY BILLS

aziraphale touching his lips.

GO AFTER HIMMMMMMMMMM YOU IDIOT

i hate this

i need a moment

SO.

i know that in cinema the middle part is usually the sad part so since this show is a three season thing i was already considering the possibility of a sad ending for s2

BUT IT DID NOT. HAVE TO BE THIS SAD.

i have to say it did feel quiet gentle and romantic compared to season one, BUT THIS ENDING. THS FUCKING ENDING???? THIS COULDVE BEEN SO PERFECT WHY DID THE METATRON SHOW UP WHY DID AZIRAPHALE ACCEPT

neil i’m in your walls IM UNDER YOUR BED

AND WHAT IF WE DONT GET A SEASON THREE?

good omens and ofmd both ending with them separated this is too much why can’t gay people be happy

and when i had seen the every i couldn’t wait to see the contentx BUT OHHH I ALREADY MISS THE TIME WHEN I WAS CLUELESS I DIDNT NEED THIS CONTEXT

crowley i’m with you btw aziraphale needs to do the apology dance a million times

alright i’m rambling bye everyone i’m gonna go stare at the wall for seven hours

tagging @neil-gaiman but this time it’s to send him my therapy bills not the reaction ❤️

#stede and aziraphale both abandoning their loved ones at the end you guys are such idiots #good omens #HUUUUUGE GOS2 SPOILERS #gos2 spoilers #gos2spoilers #gos2 #good omens season 2 #good omens 2 #good omens season two #good omens season two spoilers #good omens season 2 spoilers #good omens 2 reaction #gos2 reaction #spoilers #i can’t do it i can’t believe i have to wait for another season to see them happy

[missielynne]

I don't like polin either and am so glad you feel the same! I think the main issue for me is the gross lack of balance. Like no matter how hard polin shippers try to rationalize it or pretend that every time Colin's in the same room w/Penelope he's secretly in love with her, the truth is that their relationship is TOTALLY unrequited - not just initially, but for years and years! Even if she hadn't overheard Colin making those comments about how he'd never be romantically interested in her, he's always ACTED like he'd never be romantically interested in her while being infatuated with other women. I don't know, Colin just waking up after all those years and being like "oh, wait, turns out I'm totally in love with her after decades of not feeling a thing!" just doesn't feel authentic and believable to me. It didn't in the books and, based on the show's characterizations and writing so far, I can't imagine I'll buy into their story on screen either!

I definitely think that Pen could do better...and in all honesty, if it wasn't for the time in which she lived, I would totally advocate for Pen to be a super powerful independent lady.

As for the books, I'm okay about them. Like they're firmly in the middle for me but the story just feels very generic and I don't really like the Featheringtons (Pen not included, she's cool) so a whole book about them is like...no. I mean it's the kind of story where if it were a comedy, I'd like it more, but since it takes itself so seriously, I can't

I agree that I'm not looking forward to their season, but we can all hope that some other plot will overtake theirs just like the Featherington family plot took over Anthony and Kate's story. That would make it interesting.

#anti polin #missielynne's awesome anon