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yall-hate-kids-tourney · 2 months

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Loser Round 4: Damian Wayne (DC) vs. Jason Todd (DC)

A rematch? It's so funny how the bracket turned out this way.

Propaganda under the cut.

Damian Wayne (9-14):

Damian is a kid who was raised as an assassin and because of that when he first appears he has some really messed up ideas of how to prove himself to his father by being aggressive with the criminals they capture and attacking his brother. Because of this people act like he is the most evil character ever and refuse to give him any grace. They make him out to be this awful irredeemable monster who just wants to kill his brother and hurt people. If the fandom isn’t making his out to be The Worst(tm) then they are ignoring his existence all-together. He is a really interesting character who has done some not so great things but he’s grown and learned a lot through various character arcs (as much of an arc as a comic book character can have) and he deserves to be acknowledged for himself and not just as a villain so that people can woobify his brother.

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HES JUST A LITTLE BABY GUY!!!!! Little baby man raised as an assassin and learning how to be a real person <3. But because he was kind of a dick and also a little stabby early-on, especially to the fandom's main "so sad uwu depressed baby" blorbo (and also he's not white), people treat him like he's satan incarnate

Jason Todd (~12):

Most of the Tumblr fandom likes this guy but if you step outside this website then wham so many people say he got what he deserved as a kid and Batman can't be cool if he's a dad so it's important for Batman to trash-talk his dead child constantly so we can all agree what a bad idea it was. Also wanna highlight that a lot of the records we have from fans at the time were clear they disliked Robin for BEING a child. Like a lot of the little dude characters in this tournament are treated too harshly for making an ugly choice and the fans aren't being understanding or sympathetic that the choice is made by a child character who is immature and not developed and strong enough to make a good choice and stuff. But THIS little dude was specifically hated FOR being a child. People wanted tough loner guy Batman not Batdad and his little buddy. The first Robin would drive back from college and guest star sometimes and be advertised as the Teen Wonder and people were like yeah okay but then Batman actually starts being a single parent for a child with needs and people were like UGH not the BOY Wonder. Today pretty much everywhere you see Batman fans saying Batman is better solo, no kid, it's not realistic to have a kid, a kid shouldn't be in the movies blah. Even if the comics they always find a way to send away the new kid so that Batman never has to parent. So all the Robins are being excluded from the narrative but I think this one is THE symbol of Batman fans hating a child character just for being a child.

Robin, Jason Todd, THE hated child character. In the 1980s, Batman comics had become increasingly dark and gritty. According to editor O'Neil himself, the courted audience wasn't kids but 19-40 year old men with disposable income. Batman's child sidekick, Robin, was offensively campy and childish. Fans called him wimpy, annoying, dumb, bratty, etc. Also people complained that Batman acting like an affectionate dad was unmanly and gay. Robin acts violent and emotional and people are like "ew he's so childish and emotional"—and then Batman literally acts just as murderously and emotionally within literally the same exact story and people are like "wow he's so dark and tortured". So in 1988 (after brutalizing Batgirl to get rid of her for being too bright and nice and kid-friendly), DC held a paid poll for fans to vote for Robin to live or die. O'Neil claims he heard a fan (a grown man with a dayjob as a lawyer) programmed a phone to spam kill votes. One fanguy claimed that he sold his Mercedes to buy kill votes (probably an exaggeration but still). By less than 1% margin, the vote decided to kill Robin in a spectacularly violent way. Anyway the 1989 Batman movie brought in a huge wave of new child comicbook fans who liked the new Robin (a very cool teenage high school Robin with a driver's license and a girlfriend), and DC started a separate Robin-less Batman series called Legends of the Dark Knight to make the anti-Robin writers and fans happy. But to this day, many fans agree it was a good idea to kill off the other Robin so that his foolish death reminds other characters to never be childish and stupid again. Bonus: the current Robin (usually a traumatized 10-year-old) has also been facing some pretty loud hatred for over 15 years.

#yall hate kids tourney #loser round 4 #dc #dc comics #batman #batfamily #dc robin #batman comics #batman and robin #damian wayne #jason todd #cw child death

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badass-queer-couples-battle · 5 months

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Gay wrongs tournament, round one of the losers bracket

Propaganda:

For Jonathan and Martin:

Season Five is so funny for this. Jon is like nooooo I can't kill these people I'm enjoying it what does that say about me and Martin is like FUCK EM UP. I think they end up killing like three or four people as part of that. Very swag of them

they go around an apocalyptic london smiting people but only if jon feels like it

One of them is an avatar of an eldricht god of fear, the other one serves a lonely god at some point. They try to be good but they actually did some terrible things. Jon ate some people's fear, re-opening their trauma. Martin is all about murdering the people who hurt them, once the apocalypse rolls around. They're canonically in love.

They literally bring the end of the world about, and Jon is the human embodiment of the fear of being watched. They also both have no concept of private property or privacy in general (they have broken into so many places). They also both share an affection for cows. They were living their best cottagecore life as the entire world was being thrown into a fear filled apocalypse that they caused.

For Edward Nygma and Oswald Cobblepot :

they ARE evil and they DO actually murder people together. and sometimes they try to kill each other. literally bonded over being murders when they first met. have done innumerable crimes since. gotham's worst on/off-couple.

The epitome of "the couple that kills together stays together" except that they are also often trying to kill each other. But that's just how love is sometimes. But yeah, Oswald confesses his love for Ed, except he also murdered Ed's girlfriend a little, then Ed tries to kill him, but then he hallucinates Oswald's ghost singing seductively to him because he's also definitely in love with him. They both do so much murder and they are both so in love with each other in such a messed up but ultimately devoted way; I genuinely think they are the most murderous and husbandly murder husbands out there. Plus they have all the delightful campy themed flair of Batman villains!

Goth x nerd couple except they're campy supervillains who like to spice their gay drama up with murder and they have soooo many issues. The spicing it up with murder includes both killing the other's partner out of jealousy and just trying to kill each other many MANY times. I wish the memory of this show was fresh enough in my mind to give you a breakdown of their relationship but alas. Anyway, these two are like the most iconic thing in this show for me, not only for their relationship but their personalities individually

#losers bracket round 1 #gotham series #gotham tv #the magnus archives #tma #martin blackwood #jonathan sims #jonmartin #edward nygma #oswald cobblepot #riddlebird

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horrorvillaintourney · 8 months

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Round 1A, Match Ten: Mrs. Loomis (Scream 2) vs. Stu Macher (Scream)

PROPAGANDA FOR MRS. LOOMIS:

"I know you said youd prefer no sequels but the reveal being that the bitchy reporter hounding Gayle is Billy's MOM?? I screamed. So many stupid red herrings in this one and it's not that good tbh but Laurie Metcalf really goes off the rails. She eats, she serves, it's such a funny campy performance and she's the baddie who took out my beloved Randy. An icon, truly"

PROPAGANDA FOR STU:

"Stu Macher gave us "you hit me with the phone, dick" AND "my mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me" which are bar none two of the best and funniest horror villain lines of literally all time. Matthew Lillard is gay and homophobic and even he had no idea what he was doing but it WORKS. He's a nasty little freak who deserves to move on because Billy did it for revenge but Stu just did it for like.... fun? Chicks? His only stated motive is he falls prey to peer pressure, I want to study him like a bug"

#homophobia mention #scream #scream franchise #scream 2 #stu macher #mrs loomis #horror villain tourney

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biosurvive · 10 months

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random documented death island thoughts under the cut!

First of all, as a whole I enjoyed it, it was a campy mess and I'm always down to clown with that. I also enjoyed seeing all five of those characters together, I love them.

My biggest issues? The implications that Jill doesn't know who Piers was. The idea that Jill didn't know the man Chris was partnered with for YEARS is INSANE to me and I refuse to acknowledge that. Jill is his person, he talks to her about everything and she would have known Piers.

I also am not too fond of Chris having to explain sacrifice to Jill when she tackled Wesker out a window to save him. Though I'm also not too upset about it, because Chris loves to get on his soapbox about speeches so that is pretty IC for him. He's dense at times, we allow this.

The fact that they mentioned Piers at all has my heart SOARING. it wasn't a lot, but the sad music in the bg and Kevin Dorman's voice acting just makes me even more positive that Chris is queer.

Rebecca and Claire's moments were lowkey my favorite part? Love them.

Chris and Claire did seem a little... stifled together. I blame it on the writing, but there were parts of them that I loved. Chris calling her name when they were in the cells, his hand on her back when they both got infected. Those are my Redfield siblings and I love any and all interactions with them no matter how awkward.

The main villain was so gay for that one soldier he had to kill. "Friend" Yeah right FIUYDHJKF

Jill was spicy, glad she got a lot of moments to shine and I hope this is a sign she'll be the main protagonist of the next game.

Hearing classic Hunnigan was a nice touch.

Maria Gomez is camp and I need her in Marvel vs Capcom 5

Chris was looking REAL SUPER THICC in this movie and I appreciate that. Love my big boy.

CHRIS AND JILL'S FIST BUMP AT THE END MADE ANYTHING THAT SUCKED ABOUT THIS MOVIE WORTH IT. Further cementing that these two are BEST FRIENDS, PLATONIC SOULMATES, PARTNERS. I will never hear anything else about it, the love they have for one another is real and it is not romantic.

Anyways, RE9 is gonna be about Jill and Sheva taking down the BSAA with Chris as support and Chris is gonna find Piers in a lab and he's gonna retire with him and help train Baby Rose and he'll live happily ever after. Thanks!

Also Chris and Leon putting that gun together was both camp and hilarious. I think they fucked after this movie.

Funniest part was Claire's very angry "WHAT?!" when Leon called her name over the battle. She sounded so done with today UYSGHFJ she's so real.

Dylan just posting a call out post about Leon/Chris/Claire/Jill but verbally is really funny. He really got their asses huh UHYDGFJK

#☆ out of herbs ☆ (ooc)#:) hi #death island spoilers

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consumeronionbulletin · 7 months

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My Lovely Liar (2023)

This drama was soo good, right up until it wasn't...

Sometimes a great drama runs out of energy right at the finish line. And it's more disappointing than a drama that just plods along the whole way.

What Worked

The premise is simple and amazing: Sol-Hui has a gift / curse that she can always tell when someone lies. It's made her lots of money and no friends. Suddenly, this reclusive neighbor with a mysterious past moves in and everything changes.

At its best, the show was funny and thrilling and cute and romantic, and I loved the first 11-12 episodes.

What Didn't Work

Then they took us on a small town murder mystery, and dragged the story around without advancing the plot, and the big reveal was (*spoilers**spoilers**spoilers*) the closeted gay producer accidentally (?) did the murder and got away with it while accidentally (??) framing his best friend / secret love interest (*end spoilers*). At least the made him feel sorry for what he did, but really it should have been (*spoiler*) the father (*spoiler*) in my opinion. That man deserved to go to jail in any case.

The Performances

Kim So-hyun as ("Liar Hunter") Mok Sol-hui. Amazing to watch. She knew when to lean into the campy parts, and when to be serious, but mostly she knew how to make the premise (which could be ridiculous at times) completely believable.

Hwang Min-hyun as ("Naive Composer") Kim Do-ha. I got frustrated with the choices they had him make. He was too naive and probably should have been killed multiple times, and yet they just let him go on being oblivious. That was mostly on the writers, but still it made me want to throw things. You can't trust crazy guys with knives who want to murder you! You can't trust cops! You really can't trust cops that used to date your current girlfriend! Not even once!! On the other hand, his chemistry with Kim So-hyun was very good.

Seo Ji-hoon as ("Mr. Policeman") Lee Kang-min. On a different kind of show, this guy would have been a secondary villain. Instead he was the second male lead with a sad backstory. He had a few good moments, but the writing made him very vanilla, and Seo Ji-hoon didn't really add anything to him.

Lee Si-woo as ("Crazy Ex-pop star") Syaon. I loved to hate her through most of this, which shows that Lee Si-woo did a good job with the material. It was like a Makjang pop-princess wandered in from another show and started messing with the plot and I enjoyed that. Then they had to clean up her act for the obligatory happy ending, and she was less interesting.

Yoon Ji-on as ("Mr. CEO") Cho Deuk-chan. This was the worst case of character assassination in favor of a lame mystery that I've seen in awhile. The actor made it kind of work, but this was just a poor writing decision. It may have been okay, if they'd let us know the character better and peeled back the layers the way they did with Choi Eom-ji, but it would definitely have changed the tone of the show. They could have had a light hearted show, or they could have had a good mystery, but these writers at least weren't able to do both.

Nam Hyun-woo as ("The worst little bro") Cho Jae-chan. I really despised this guy throughout most of the show (so a good acting job, really), then they turned him into a patsy in service of the stupid mystery and toned the character down a bit, and it just made him less interesting. Decent performance with what he was given.

Park Kyung-hye as Cassandra. It's always great seeing Park Kyung-hye at work, and I loved the dynamic between her character and the rest of the Liar Hunter gang. They could have ditched some of the other b-plots and given us more with her and I would have been happy, but I still liked what I got.

Jin Kyung as ("The Worst Mother") Cha Hyang-suk. Again, another Makjang character let loose on an unsuspecting population, and I enjoyed every minute of it. Well until they decided to try and fix her messy relationship with Sol-hui's father, but that was still kind of okay.

Seo Jeong-yeon as ("Bad Politician Mother") Jung Yeon-mi. I liked how terrible this character was. I just wish they'd had the courage to let her be terrible. I feel like there was this need to undercut her ambitious nature that they wouldn't have bothered to do with a similar male character, and that was frustrating, but the performance was still pretty good overall.

Song Ji-hyun as ("Crazy Dead Girlfriend") Choi Eom-ji. I liked how complex they made her. One of the strong points for the show was how this young woman (and her death) touched different characters lives both good and bad. There was something about her arc at the end of the show that left a bad taste, but the performance overall was good.

Kwon Dong-ho as ("Walking Assault Case") Choi Eom-ho. This was another example of a Makjang character let loose, but I think they needed to reign him in just a little bit. Just did way too much assault, fraud, and general criminal behavior without any consequences and it frustrated me.

Seo Hyun-chul as ("Real Folk Blues") Jang Joong-gyu. Honorable mention to the guy that ran the jazz club, just because he was fun to watch and I really liked his interactions with the other characters.

The Other Village People. I kind of didn't care about the other business owners in Yonso-dong. Sometimes it was amusing, but mostly it was just okay. It was kind of fun watching the bakery owner dump flour all over the shifty real-estate people's office.

Everyone else. The bodyguard was fun at times, but overall not that interesting. The subplot with the up and coming wanna-be pop stars was lame. The stuff with the terrible dance coach who went after Syaon was frustrating and a little lame. Also, the cop stuff was kind of cute, but I still don't like cops. At least the crooked cop that got paid off by Bad Politician Mom was somewhat realistic. Mostly with the apathy, low pay, and general lack of accountability.

TL; DR:

Overall a good show that kind of limped into the finish line. The cute romantic stuff was very cute, the lie detector hijinks were very amusing, and the trauma bonding over terrible parents was also fun to watch. Just wish they'd made a few different choices.

#my kdrama notes #my lovely liar #weird mystery stuff

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crimsun-n-clover · 11 months

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i get kin assigned characters constantly

“you remind me of crowley goodomens”

“you’re sooo like eddie strangerthings”

“has anyone ever told you that you remind them of jon magnusarchives?”

“you look like dream sandmancomics haha”

“southpark goth kid”

fuckin etc etc with anyone who’s a gay edgelord loser.

you wanna know who i REALLY relate to??

—zuul / vince clortho ghostbusters - evil demon dog muppet thing that’s really horny for sigourney weaver. breathes like it also has POTS and lives in a fridge sometimes. fucks around and finds out. inconvenienced? turns to stone.

—lego batman - loser but funny and deadpan enough for it to be passable. miserable and likes objectively bad music. fuckin bats. lives in the dark and is nocturnal. will adopt some random sad kid that crosses my path as my own and take them to sketchy places because hey, we’re here for a good fucking time kid.

—luke skywalker - gay hillbilly who befriends insane old people. too much like his father. just wants to drive around in his shitty little car and move out. pretty girl says something and he just goes okay that’s my purpose now. will steal shit if necessary. gets bored and overthrows the empire. will make deals at a bar with some rando criminal and suddenly whoops ride or die bestie

—samwise gamgee - so meow meow. so dyke. so hopelessly devoted. loves plants and some light drinking. holds serious fucking grudges. thinks the weird pretty little brunette is hot, snoops on him a little, suddenly is taking the ring to mordor because he knows too much. yeah sounds about right. not to get into his actual character or anything but DAMN that shit gets too real sometimes.

—daria mtvdaria - bitch with one friend. music nerd and total asshole, but in an autistic way. everyone around her either thinks she’s weird or almost admires her ability to just be so indifferent to social norms. parents push her in the wrong direction in an attempt to better her.

list to be continued.

now let me give some counter arguments.

—crowley goodomens - i may be a sunglasses indoors, all black wearing queer, who presents as any and all genders whenever, is kinda evil but in a campy disney villain way, raises bitchy kids, is very attached to their car, drives too fast, is a queen / velvet underground superfan, fucking WHATEVER. my polar opposite oldest best friend i was in love with hates my fucking guts. so SUCK IT. i WIN. and also i’m temporarily banned (self imposed, no one controls me but ME) from the velvet underground and queen because that shit gets too real when you’re gay and heartbroken. don’t fucking look at me right now man i can’t do this shit

—eddie strangerthings - really?? the cult of vecna??? temple of elemental evil is where it’s AT. he may have kiddos like me but he doesn’t LOVE THEM LIKE ME. i simply cannot see him taking sweet sweet lucas sinclair (who has done nothing wrong ever. in his entire life.) to waffle house. i do also have a rivalry with the basketball captain and therefore the whole team, but they only tried to hunt me down once and i intimidated them by chugging condiments. i play bass like a REAL sexy metalhead. and megadeth is better than metallica i don’t fucking CARE what you think. my battle jacket is way more kickass and i would love the smack the shit out of him for making dungeons and dragons “ohh!! that’s the stranger things game!!! the eddie game!!!!” and also people assume i’m talking about him when i bring up EVH. no. NO.

—jon magnusarchives - yeah okay maybe. skeptical asshole who’s that way to cope. you can’t explain it? i sure can. there’s something wrong with you. i’d at least like to think that i’m less of a dick and more sympathetic than him. also georgie is SO my type i would NOT be able to live with her as a fugitive like it’s nothing. rough exterior, cat loving and book nerd interior. but at least i’d be a hunt avatar. put fear into people the way i’ve felt it. the eye is kinda lame unless you’re an avatar and can just know shit. and when i find an author i like i immediately eat up everything they’ve ever written i don’t fucking care i love seeing common themes. also i would never talk shit about poetry it’s so fun

—dream sandmancomics - this one is mostly based on appearance and i haven’t finished the comics so like idk man but i feel like i’m better than him. just because.

#FUCK OFF TUMBLR

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batmanego · 2 years

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ferris can you tell me about the riddler. not specifically the new one i like the old one where he looks a little bit strange with the bowler hat and unitard. how did he get here (gay). whats wrong with him

so many riddlers have bowler hats (mostly modern ones, actually) but i'll assume because of your inclusion of Unitard that you mean either golden/silver age riddler or Jim Carrey Riddler.

edward nigma (aka, the riddler of earth-1, aka, the riddler of the beginning of batman comics to 1986) does not have all that much going on if i'm being honest with you. he does riddle crimes. interestingly, he would always cheat to solve the riddle crimes because he was more obsessed with winning. he was briefly nicknamed The Wizard Of Quiz, which is hysterical. he's best described as having a "lengthy but not particularly distinguished career". he definitely had his moments but like a lot of campy batman villains what he sacrificed in Sheer Visual Hilarity he made up for in "gaining a backstory and more interesting traits" after crisis on infinite earths.

jim carrey's riddler has.... substantially more going on.

we don't get any real backstory for him regarding his childhood or anything, but the Basic Gist of him is he is a disgruntled former wayne tech employee who created a device called The Box that lets him transmit his thoughts into other peoples minds. it also allows him to absorb other people's intelligence, making him Smarter. unfortunately it also makes him batshit insane (and eventually progresses to him being able to read minds? batman forever is a really wild movie you should watch it).

#batman

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doctorjohcoy · 3 years

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grimdark eddie is just an eddie thats crossed his personal event horizon and thats no fun at all

#all serious and shit #like eddie??? killing people willy nilly?? having an 'evil alternate personality'??? fuck off man #thats like. crane and twofaces thing man #its SO boring #i mean eddie can be serious and dangerous and heartless but wheres the PANACHE #wheres the STYLE #u cant just slap any boring normal bitchass villain in a green suit and call them the riddler is all im saying #thats why im super picky about harley too #like a mindless vapid harley or a suuuper serious harley who has no inner code at all? a harley thats grimdark edgy sexey gurl jokers gf? f #....i rly like it when the serious villains and batman are all >:| and the fun villains are all >:]!!#yknow?#lets get fucking campy and kitschy man #thats why gotham (tv) is boring to me theres no fun #the actors are good but hot damn. if ur into gritty realism watch gotham (tv)#this is a complaint post. edward nygma is a gay dramatic smug little brat and should be depicted as such #even in grimdark shit #i hope hes lije that a little in 2021 :<

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crazyw3irdo · 2 years

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I see you’re also a Riddler fan. I gotta ask, how do you feel about his portrayal in the upcoming pattinson batman movie?

anon my beloved thank you so much for giving me this opportunity because i have ranted about this to multiple people irl but i don’t think i’ve fully lost it on this blog yet. long angry rant under the cut.

TLDR: i hate it

first of all, i can’t talk about what they’ve done to my beloved puzzle doofus without addressing the larger problem that dc movies have as a whole: the “dark and edgy” factor. i’ve done a bit of a rant on this in my tags recently here but that was really just a side point to what i was talking about at that moment. basically, fans want characters to be happy. movie makers continue to not understand that. i’d thought the dceu was moving more towards the actual fun stuff lately- shazam, birds of prey, and the suicide squad were all amazing- but as much as i love robert pattinson and think he’ll do a great job it’s not. it’s not looking good. i don’t want another grimdark movie. i want fun.

when i first heard that ed was gonna be the main villain i was just. very concerned. like. i would love to see him in a movie. i would love my good riddle boy getting to be funny and over the top but i just wasn’t sure if they were going in that direction and just… it’s clear that’s not it. and it’s not even in a direction i could understand?? like i knew in my core they wouldn’t let him be camp, but to jump so far into. whatever the hell that outfit is was just entirely unexpected.

i know comics can change canon characterization around from comic to comic and that combined with various fanon interpretations that how everyone looks at specific characters can be different, so i’d like to quickly take a moment to express my ideal form of the riddler that might just include a lot of projecting:

he’s a guy who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else. he’s a guy who wishes he had someone on his level. he just wants attention. he does like batman, he respects him, he thinks that since batman can solve his riddles that maybe he isn’t as lonely as he thinks, but batman still locks him in arkham and as smart as he is he doesn’t understand why. he’s like a child acting out because it’s the only way he knows how to get attention. he’s a gifted kid with burnout. he struggles so much socially that he tries to reject society by focusing on riddles and intelligence but still wants that social attention. he’s a campy theatre kid that loves showing off. he’s a smug little bastard trying his best. he pouts when he doesn’t get what he wants. he’s autistic. he’s gay but nobody wants him. he and oswald are divorced.

i know i likely won’t ever get my ideal riddler, but really just what hurts me the most is there are so many ways to make him edgy and just out of character enough that would still work so much better than whatever this is. make him a snobbish asshole in a clean pressed suit sneering at those below him, make him a rejected loner who wants to prove the world wrong through any means necessary, make him a jigsaw-like character with deadly escape rooms, hell make him an r/iamverysmart “you say you want to improve society and yet you still live in it? checkmate. i am very intelligent.” and it’d still be better than whatever the fuck this is.

and good god the costume. the fucking costume. edward has fucking standards. what the absolute fuck were they thinking? i get if you don’t want him looking like the jim carrey version or the early comics where he had that amazingly terrible skintight bright green spandex, i don’t expect him to wear that, but in almost every other version of the riddler he wears a suit. that’s his thing.

look at the arkham & telltale games versions. look at how good these are. he’s not even wearing a suit in arkham knight, but it still works

yeah they’re not live action, but you know what riddler looked fucking amazing in live action?

i have very mixed feelings about the gotham tv show, especially for someone who never watched it, but just look at his fucking suits. it’s amazing. they’re iconic. they’re beautiful.

what the fuck is this. who is this and what did they do to my little riddle lad. i hate this. it’d be better if he was in secondhand party city onceler cosplay.

#dc #edward nygma #look at how they massacred my boy

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badass-queer-couples-battle · 7 months

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Gay wrongs tournament, round 1, major bracket

Propaganda:

For Misa Amane and Rem:

Rem sacrifices everything she can for misa, knowing what will happen if she saves her from death once again. She came to misa at the beginning after watching gelus die from helping her, wanting to know more why gelus liked her. She ended up becoming infatuated with her, and trying to keep her safe from kira but it didn't work. Though in the end they both cared for each other to no end.

Rem is a death god that gives Misa the power to supernaturally serial kill people, falls in love with her, and murders additional people for her

For Edward Nygma and Oswald Cobblepot :

#gay wrongs tournament round 1 #death note #gotham tv #gotham #misa amane #rem #oswald cobblepot #edward nygma #remisa #riddlebird

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a-flickering-soul · 3 years

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Someone reblogged one of my Hux posts and referred to him as a "human ransom note" and honestly it was funny at the time but the more I think about it the more I realize that's also a shockingly good way to refer to him??

Hux is a weird phenomenon because so many people had hands in the creation of his character and, him being such a minor character overall, there was very little set characterization that an author had to stick to. For the most part, he was minor enough that, as long as an author wrote a vaguely Hux-ish vibe, it was good enough. But, much as there are multiple iterations of Hux in my brain, each author brought their own little flavor to this character and didn't really care about consistency with the rest of the universe, creating slightly different versions of Hux that all coalesce into one incredibly complex, inexplicable, multidimensional character that barely exists and yet is so real and three-dimensional in the weirdest fucking way.

Chuck Wendig wrote a terrified child with something broken and insidious inside him. Delilah S. Dawson wrote a campy, smug, overdramatic gay man who had just committed patricide and was still riding that high. Tom Taylor wrote a man who had clawed his way up to power using every resource he had and was absolutely willing to kill and manipulate and slaver for more. Alan Dean Forester wrote a bland, cool-headed control freak who had something subtly wrong with him. Jason Fry wrote a smug, slightly-rabid man with a superiority complex. Rae Carson wrote an unhinged, obsessed homosexual villain who watched the empire he built slip through his fingers. Every single LEGO Star Wars writer wrote a little block man fruit. Domhnall Gleeson played him as a madman and hated every second of his role except for when he was being beat up for comic relief. I'm not even addressing what the movies interpreted him beyond what Mr. Gleeson did as because frankly they couldn't even interpret the main characters so who really cares what they did with a minor one.

All of these different interpretations of the same character with 8 total minutes of main movie screentime just come together to form, purely through the virtue of inconsistent writing, the most complex and odd and inexplicable little man. He's just so odd. There truly is a Hux for everyone--there's a gay Hux (well, all Huxes are gay, but), there's a rabid Hux, there's a Hux that's just there to be a punching bag, there's a calm and collected and controlled Hux. . .

The only reason he is this multidimensional and complex and weird and fun to delve into is because he was created by accident. There was no way the mouse would ever purposefully create a mad engineer who personally killed every person who abused him as a child and was homoerotically obsessed with the one man he could never truly hope to beat. There's just too much potential there. He was just too much for the mouse to handle.

#huxposting #star wars #flickerthoughts #armitage hux #general hux #i'm absolutely going bonkers he's a 3-dimensional character BY ACCIDENT!!!!#with steph i mean steph was literally all just me like i singlehandedly conjured her up out of nothing bc emh hates women #but hux. HUX. hux really i didn't do much at all. he was just. he sprang fully formed from 20 different people.#almost tempted to add the costume designers + hair&makeup SW team bc they gave him a personality thru their work too but #flicker's meta

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aperture-of-bullshit · 2 years

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ninjago. tell me the things about ninjago.

SCREAMING AND CRYING

BLORBO (favorite character, character I think about the most): like. here's the thing. Cole is definitely my favorite but I think abt Nya WAYYYYY more. something something a girlboss literally Will carry on the legacy of those who came before her regardless of her own personal safety and hapiness.

SCRUNKLY (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped): COLE NINJAGO MY BELOVED. MY BOY BESTIE EVEN. HES MY LITTLE GUY. MY BUDDY. (also to a lesser extent zane but that's like 50% because of castiel supernatural)

SCRIMBLO BIMBLO (underrated/underappreciated fave): Pythor 😔😔😔 idk maybe i just havent been around ninjago fandom enough to see a lot of pythor content but I think the mean gay snake who is also english inexplicably deserves some rights. PEAK campy gay ninjago villain imo

GLUP SHITTO (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week): literally all the paperkids. they show up like once every other season in the new series and they're just little kids tryna make it in the capitalist hellscape of a city that gets torn to shreds regularly

POOR LITTLE MEOW MEOW (“problematic”/unpopular/controversial/otherwise pathetic fave): JAY LMAO. Like I'm aware he is actually a very popular character but EYE. EYE enjoy my own personal interpretation of him as a weirdo loser who somehow gets mad bitches (literally all the other ninja). I feel like he activates a "oh my god he would such a good housewife" in everyone he meets. Look me in the eye and tell me you couldn't see him getting into PTA drama. HES THE DEFINITIVE NINJAGO MALEWIFE

HORSE PLINKO (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason): DARRETH. His main character trait is guy who sucks and has somehow constantly managed to fail upwards. I'd like to put him in the pear wiggler and shake it vigorously.

EEBY DEEBY (character I would send to superhell): Master Chen. Just as a concept i hate him. please never appear on screen ever again oh my GOD. the only good thing that came from him as a character was skylar.

send me a fandom and I’ll tell you [ask game]

#ninjago #aa babbles #ask game

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ordinaryschmuck · 3 years

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Starkid Musicals Ranked from Worst to Best

Salutations to you, random people on the internet who most certainly won’t read this. I am an Ordinary Schmuck. I write stories and reviews and draw comics and cartoons.

Welp. I finally did it. I've watched the entire Starkid musical library, and I must say, most of these plays fit my writing style perfectly:

Humor that is cynical yet random

Leaning in with comedy while sprinkling in some well-executed drama

An understanding that any type of story works as long as the cast of varying personalities of characters is dynamic enough to result in some phenomenal chemistry.

This is in almost all of their plays, excelled through fantastic writing and stellar performances driving the overall quality. And it inspired me not only to review each musical, but also ranking them all from worst to best. Or, more accurately, least good to most good. Because even at their "worst," Starkid still provides a funny, enjoyable experience that will keep you laughing with its comedy and your toes tapping with its catchy music. So strap in as I go in-depth into how Starkid proves how they are the masters of humor and melody.

(I'll also provide links to each musical, which is all for free on YouTube, so you can check them out yourselves. Just know that their early work is impossible to enjoy without subtitles, so you might want to have Closed Captions on when watching.)

#12-Holy Musical B@man-Everything about this play makes it seem like it's the weakest to me. The jokes, songs, and characters in Holy Musical B@tman just don't hit as hard as Starkid's other plays. It's still good, but compared to their best, the cracks show a lot more. That is, except for the ending. Not only is there a great speech that shows what makes superheroes so beloved, but "Super Friends" might just be my favorite finale song Starkid has ever put out. Holy Musical B@tman may not be the best, but it's at least worth the time.

#11-Firebringer-This was stupid. Really stupid. Funny as f**k, but still pretty stupid. Although I will give credit to one of the central pairings being LGBTQA+...Even though it makes little to no sense based on the characters' previous interactions. But in fairness, Starkid really sucks at writing good romantic relationships, so at least Firebringer has the benefit of being gay. And as we all know: The gayer, the better. The play is still stupid, though.

#10-Me and My Dick-The world in this musical makes little to no sense. Penises and vaginas are sentient and can communicate with their humans. And yet the penises and vaginas can also talk with each other, form relationships, leave their humans, and reinsert themselves into others--Yeah, it makes no sense...But, DAMN, is it funny! Every joke and innuendo Me and My Dick has about human anatomy works, and I could not stop laughing at each of them. Especially the names that were given to the vaginas, which are just...I mean, I'm laughing just by thinking about them. That should tell you how funny they are. This play might be illogical in every way, but if you turn your brain off and watch it for the humor, you'll definitely be in for something fun.

#9-ANI: A Parody-What's weird about ANI is that its best qualities are also weaknesses. A good chunk of the jokes are hilarious and expertly delivered. The issue is that most of them are about taking potshots at the Star Wars prequels, which might be the laziest jokes to make in a Star Wars parody. Then there's the soundtrack, having several songs that are a bop to listen to. The problem is that ANI suffers from the same issues as Tarzan and Brother Bear: Yes, technically, it is a musical, but it's one where none of the characters sing, and some people in the background do all the singing instead. It's all an odd balancing act of quality content made through questionable choices. ANI is still an entertaining play, but the force isn't as strong with this one.

#8-Black Friday-This might be the least funny play that Starkid has ever put out. Not just because it leans extra hard into drama, which was pretty effective during certain scenes. It's just when there are jokes in Black Friday, they tend to fall flatter more here than they did in other plays. Also, the plot of Black Friday might not be the best one to play straight. The serious moments work best when focusing on the characters and their personal struggles, but through the big bad that's supposed to be threatening? Not so much. Even if it was meant to be funny, well, I wasn't laughing. And believe it or not, I consider that to be the best judge of whether or not something is funny. That being said, while Black Friday isn't the most humorous Starkid musical, it's still pretty good. The characters are excellent, the songs are awesome, and the story is somewhat easy to follow. I would have appreciated a few more laughs, but I can respect these talented people wanting to challenge their strengths.

#7-Starship-This play feels very...Disney. It follows a familiar formula we've seen several times: The main character wants more than what he has in his crappy life, miraculously gets the exact thing he wants, falls in love with a girl in a short amount of time, faces off against a campy/over the top villain, realizes the hand he's been dealt isn't so bad, and in the end, gets what he wants anyway. Starship is still pretty entertaining through its jokes, characters, and songs, but it also feels weird that Starkid leans into these tropes when they would eventually make a much better play by making fun of them. The end result is not bad in the slightest, but it's also nowhere near their best.

#6-A Very Potter Musical-Starkid's first production, and boy, what a start to something wonderful. Every one of their gimmicks and motifs is present in A Very Potter Musical. The use of parody to playfully mock characters and stories they love, making songs that are as funny as they are emotional, and creating characters that work because of their lines and the actors' performances. Oh, and also, it's funny. And it’s not just through a parody angle, like making Cedric be a perfect boy who's always smiling. It's also funny through its jokes that work, even if you ignore the fact that it’s a parody altogether. Case in point, there are these two bits, one involving Voldemort and Beatrix with the other involving Ron and Hermoine, that are written and delivered so well that I was in tears much more than with any other Starkid play. When watching A Very Potter Musical, you'll not only understand how parody works, but you'll also gain an understanding of why Starkid turned out as successful as they did.

#5-The Trail to Oregon-What can I say? I'm a sucker for comedic dysfunctional families. And seeing a family of idiots make their way to Oregon via The Oregon Trail parody? Yeah, that's a win for me. The play may be another family road trip narrative, which some people might get sick of at this point. But because the dynamics and comedic chemistry everyone has with each other are on point, the end result proves that you don't need an original story to tell an entertaining one. Although I will say that out of all of Starkid's productions, The Trail to Oregon has by far the worst ending. Without giving anything away, the play spends way too much time on this one stupid joke that any of the characters could make. Comedy is defined by personalities, as are most things, so making the joke work for anyone is a bad move when this one, in particular, doesn't fit as well for some characters as it would for others. Plus, the finale song "Naked in a Lake" is a really poor choice to cap off this musical. It's catchy, but to me, a finale song should encapsulate everything about the story, characters, and themes. Not paying off a joke that I honestly wouldn't want the payoff for. So while the ending could have used a lot more polish, that doesn't change how The Trail to Oregon is a pretty funny play that I won't mind revisiting when I have the chance.

#4-A Very Potter Sequel-Hey, sometimes a sequel is better than the original. Sure some jokes don't land, and some story beats aren't as impactful as they thought they were (Serious Black's introduction, for example), but there are far more improvements to this play than the last one. The performances are stronger, the jokes are funnier, the music is catchier, and the characters are much more entertaining in this play than in A Very Potter Musical. Especially new additions like Lupin and Lucious Malfoy, who provide great comedy and sublime drama at times. And Umbridge. Sweet Mother of all that is holy, Umbridge. While A Very Potter Sequel never made me laugh to tears as the first play did, twice, Professor Umbridge carries the comedy so well that she surpasses all of that. Plus, on top of it all, this play nails its ending through a bittersweet note that really captures what makes Hogwarts so special to these characters. I always feel like Starkid's plays tend to lose steam during the last few minutes, but A Very Potter Sequel is one of the few instances that it just builds and builds to a perfect ending. A Very Potter Sequel might not always hit the right marks, but the results are just magical when it does get it right.

#3-The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals-This one is pretty clever. The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals is one of those stories that manages to be explicitly hilarious yet implicitly disturbing. For instance, people suddenly bursting into perfectly choreographed musical numbers in a world where songs are exclusively diegetic is pretty funny (especially through the characters' reactions to it). However, knowing what happens to these people and why they sing and dance so expertly helps make the whole situation pretty dire. It's an excellent balancing act that not many stories can accomplish. And while The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals leans one way or the other at times, it's still all handled really well. Oh, and also, you know how most people say the villain song is the best one in any musical? Well, technically speaking, nearly every song in The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals is the villain song. Including the finale, which is just too brilliant for me not to give a round of applause. If you're a person who unfortunately doesn't like musicals either, I'd say be more than willing to give this one a chance. It's funny, catchy, and if you think of the implications, pretty damn disturbing.

#2-A Very Potter Senior Year-...You know how Avengers: Endgame is a bit of a mess, yet people still love it for how much of a perfect (sort of) finale it is? It's the same regard with A Very Potter Senior Year in my eyes. It's far from a masterpiece, but the many, many solid scenes that cap off this series help make me willing to overlook the mistakes. The characters, callbacks, and overall message about how things end was done so expertly well that I physically can’t hate this one. I can understand how it's more of an ok play when compared to the rest of Starkid's productions, but sometimes, ok is wonderful.

#1-Twisted: An Untold Story of a Royal Vizier-...It's Twisted. Everyone loves Twisted! And how could they not? Everything about this play just screams Starkid at their best. The comedy is uproarious, added with the fantastic delivery of the actors and the characters' personalities. Everyone feels as though they have one step in reality and the other in insanity. This, to me, seems like the best type of character work when going for the parody angle. Parody is about giving slight yet snide remarks toward the work you're mocking, which I feel works best when characters drop the suspension of disbelief audiences have when enjoying such a story. And Twisted definitely nails its satire in not only poking fun at Aladdin but also making jokes towards Disney as a brand. From their movies to their inside jokes to their formulas to even their corporate dealings with Pixar, nothing about Disney is sacred in Twisted. But on top of being funny, Twisted might just be the most successful Starkid has been with telling some really compelling drama. The jokes allow themselves to take a back seat to let serious moments play out, and even comedy is added, it provides more for the experience rather than taking anything away. You see this not only through the actors giving it their all but even through some really gorgeous and heart wrenching musical numbers. Oh, and also, Twisted has the best Starkid soundtrack, featuring songs that are epic, funny, and, as I said, heartbreaking. You cannot get better than this and, if you want to get a friend interested in Starkid as a whole, this might be the play for them. Scheherazade may have a thousand tales, but his one is a tale I wouldn't mind hearing for a thousand nights.

And that's about how I feel about Starkid and each and every one of their plays. Odds are your ranking would be much different from mine, and I'm all for that differing opinions. Feel free to make your own ranking if you want because I'm honestly curious where fans would place these plays above or below others. I'm relatively new to enjoying their work, so I have no idea what the consensus is. I do know one thing, though: If Starkid can still be incredibly entertaining through over ten years of content, then I am excited to see what they can accomplish next in another ten years.

#starkid #holy musical b@man #firebringer #me and my dick #ani: a parody #black friday #a very potter trilogy #the trail to oregon #the guy who didn't like musicals #twisted: the untold story of a royal vizier

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Die if you want to, you innocent papaya!

I’ve just watched Jesus Christ Superstar (2000). I’m on my marry way to check all versions of this musical and since I’ve been a little bit down today (and as of late, in general) I thought that watching what is apparently considered to be the most ridiculous version would be a good idea. It was. There’s a reason why I keep reading that this fandom thinks of it as something so bad that it’s actually good. It’s absolutely horrible... I LOVED IT!

My spontaneous remarks:

I honestly think that they simply decided that 2000 fashion was great enough to be left as it is so most of Jesus’ fam looks like 2000 fashion trademarks with Simon being the peak of ‘00s with his bleached sticky hair and dot-like beard-thing under his bottom lip

Jesus in baggy ‘00s cargo trousers... XD

Why are there like tons of graffiti from all possible times, like hippie signs, antifascist slogans, slogan of french revolution... it’s just too much, it’s an absurd, like they could not decide which one should it be so they put them all there

CAMP is everywhere!

overacting is strong with this one... Oh, so strong!

Judas and Herod are just the worst singers I’ve ever heard in JCS... THE WORST... I mean, I keep thinking that Jesus has the blank, leave-me-alone-Judas face not cause Judas complains all the time, but because it hurts his ears to hear him singing like... for Someone’s sake, shut up, already! And it's the same way with Herod who, btw, reminds me of some Tim Burton's villain from 90s.

BTW, Judas is weird mix of being Very Gay & Jealous and being Violent & Pervy Little Shit... What the hell was that about when Mary kissed Jesus while he was sleeping (btw, consent, no?) and she looked up and there he was: the Pervy Stalker Judas and he tried to kiss her to be a Mean Shit (consent, again? Come on, guys!)? I don’t actually like the way he treats Mary in this version. Really, he gets handsy and violent and I hate it

And also... like in the last song, the Superstar, he’s like devil-style and looks far too happy making it hard for Jesus to carry that cross... and also why is he still there after Jesus is crucified? Dude, you are dead, I get the Superstar cause that’s the narrative thingy, but this?

Gethsemane was not half as bad as I expected

Jesus singing that Judas would be sorry when he’s gone and then fainting dramatically like a golden diva he is 🤣

Why the Temple is full of the Orientalism shit?

Pilate was so damn weird with his... camp Nazi clothes and gay dreams (yeah, that dream, dear ppl, was played out pretty gay here)

Pilate: Die if you want to, you innocent papaya! - I LOVED IT! Hahahaha! 😅

the creators really do love the slow motion, don’t they?

Caiaphas, Annas and the Gang are in... the Death Star?

Caiaphas voice is frighteningly low... and so damn slow? And then he has a vision I think cause he overacts wildly to my utter amusement!

And this one guy during Jesus Must Die who realised he had left his stove on...

The emphasis they put on Jesus loosing control over his fam is quite interesting to watch, like in the Simon song, Simon is giving people guns and Jesus is really confused and angry about it all. Usually the loosing control thing is a little bit less obvious... Actually, I don’t know if it’s a good or a bad thing in JCS 2000... too literal, perhaps?

Jesus face when they sing Hey, J.C., J.C., won’t you die for me?’ being like: O.O A whaaaaaaaaat?

Jesus and Judas chasing one another around the table during the Last Supper made me laugh so hard... and then after this: Look at all my trials <sob> and <sob_sob> tribulations <sob>... They really ruined the family dinner, didn’t they?

Judas crawling across the table to get Caiaphas and the Gang and they are all like... <panicking> Back off, gentleman, Judas went bonkers!

I’m out of quick remarks, I think? Head empty. But even though it was so odd and just badly done it was campy, funny and made me laugh so hard I almost forgot I’m feeling down so, yeah, as weird as it sounds, this musical can be an odd ‘00 comedy. Probably it shouldn’t, but well... I’m not complaining.

#jesus christ superstar #jcs #jesus christ superstar 2000 #musicals #andrew lloyd webber #tai comments

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ainosk8 · 3 years

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not an adam fan omfg....society is doomed. i can’t imagine being a fan of a predator personally

hi! 🤡

lol yes there are a handful of us adam likers! I assume when you say pr*dator you mean of the s*xual variety and not a beast of prey, in which case I disagree with your reading of the character. I also would not want to be a fan of a pr*dator!

TBH I do think there was a little mishandling of the way Adam’s fixation on Langa is portrayed in the show, because while I do not read him as being s*xually interested in Langa, I think it is an easy conclusion to come to. I don’t want to necessarily invalidate your reading, because I’m a firm believer that art is subjective and whatever the art moved in you is just as important as the intention of the artists. But I will offer my own perspective.

I truly feel like Utsumi wanted to show Adam as a character who has an unhealthy attachment to the idea of an “Eve”, finding someone on his level of skating to be his perfect partner and restore the one good relationship he ever had in his life (his friendship with Tadashi). Because of Adam’s deep seated issues around “love” stemming from his childhood abuse, he warps this desire for companionship into a quest for a romantic partner. It’s definitely something that is supposed to unsettle us as an audience (which is somewhat problematic in the tradition of campy gay villains in cinema), but I also think a close reading of the show betrays any notion of Adam sincerely being interested in Langa “that way”.

The final two episodes are the clearest example of this. Adam has been obsessed with the idea of skating with Langa all season. Then at the end of ep 11, Tadashi tells Adam he is dropping out of the race, so the final beef will be between Adam and Snow. Yay! He’s getting what he wants! He should be thrilled, right? Cue the blue-tinted shots of rain falling down his face like tears while Adam emphasizes his loneliness.

Adam is getting what he said he wanted, but it isn’t really what he wanted after all. For all his “courtship” with Langa, as soon as he has the chance to skate with him, he turns the “wedding” into a “funeral”. In ep 12 he exchanges his Matador of Love outfit for some Jack Skellington shit. Gone are all his little heart accents, leaving him with a broken heart and empty ribcage on his skateboard and the back of his costume which literally has the heart cut out of it.

I don’t think we are supposed to assume that Adam is just really into the Corpse Bride and this is all romantic for him. When Tadashi pulled out of the race, he felt devastated and abandoned for a second time. He’s heartbroken! Now that his own forced marriage is looming in the near future, the tournament is ending, and he knows he is going to suffer the consequences of the political collusion he was pressured into, he feels like he has nothing left. And on top of that, Tadashi won’t even skate with him.

In the race itself, it’s only when Langa reaches out to Adam in a way that reminds him of Tadashi that he begins to let his guard down, symbolized by the mask falling off.

This is the turning point for him. It was never about Langa, or wanting to marry him or whatever. This whole thing has been about Adam missing the connection he felt with someone while skating, having fun with someone who wants to have fun with him. When he’s racing Langa he’s remembering skating with Tadashi, and how good it felt to have something joyful and uncomplicated in his life. Not everything is about “winning” or succeeding, or bringing honor/prestige to his family name. Some things can just be for him, because he enjoys doing them. It’s the opposite of what his aunts drilled into him as a child, physically and emotionally, which is why it’s been so hard for him to understand.

In the end, he voices his change in perspective. Adam tells Tadashi that skating with Langa reminded him of what he felt when he was first learning to skate with him.

It all comes back to Tadashi for Adam.

My read on Adam in the beginning of the series is that he hadn’t been skating for a while (people at S point out that he hasn’t appeared for some time) and obviously his relationship with Tadashi was fractured around Tadashi not protecting him from having skating taken away, so he isn’t going to just ask Tadashi to skate with him. He sees Langa’s good ass skate skills but also how much fun he has doing it, and it reminds him of how he felt when he was first learning how to skate with Tadashi. Possibly his first (or even only??) happy memory. So naturally, he wants to skate with this new guy, who gives him Tadashi feelings but doesn’t have the baggage of Adam and Tadashi’s relationship history. And it just goes from there, ending up with Adam realizing that he wants Tadashi to be with him for life.

That all doesn’t make it less ~weird~ for Adam to shove roses in a teenager’s face, but it does point to the whole creep vibe he has towards Langa as being less an authentic representation of his feelings and more a contrivance by the writers to showcase his complicated feelings about love, skating, and ultimately Tadashi. It’s a narrative choice, and I do think it could have been executed in a way that left less room for misinterpretation. But I really do stand by this reading of the series.

So yeah! Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion. I’m not someone who wants to say mean things to people because they feel differently about a TV show than I do, though I may be in the minority lol.

Either way, I’m very open to discussion if you want to message me off anon :)

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Shore Leave the Character who Shouldn’t Work but Does

.In Venture Bros there is a buff campy gay man who dresses to have his chest exposed at all time, talks with a lisp, has a lot of “gay” gestures, whos only given name is Shore Leave, and was made to poke fun at how early GI Joe felt kinda gay. And if you’ve never watched the show you might be thinking “wow that’s the kind of shit I want to say in the 90s how could anyone like this character?” Well its all in the little things with Shore Leave.

The first thing I should say about Shore Leave is that he’s hyper competent at his job, and what is his job you might ask? Well he’s an international super spy fighting to protect others from various villains and nut jobs. Think like a mix of SHEILD, the FBI and GI Joe all rolled into. He does everything from infiltration, gun modifications and maintenance, recon and info gathering, proficient in hand to hand combat, weapons expert and all around bad assery. And he does it all with a smirk, a wink and catty quips. He feels no shame in being gay in fact its stated several times even by Shore Leave himself that he ups the camp so that their enemies underestimate him. Shore Leave knows what people assume about him and he uses that to his advantage.

Those who work with him know that under the jokes and silliness he takes his job seriously and will do what is needed to get it done. Like he could be your standard badass but where is the fun in that? Shore Leave is kinda like a different take on the secret bad ass trope except its not a secret he wears a military uniform, he works in the highest levels of his field, the only reason you would question if he could actually do this is because we have associated these mannerisms he displays as being incapable and cowardly.

He has one hell of a sibling bond with his coworkers. One of the greatest things with Shore Leave is his platonic relationships with other men. He is surrounded by incredibly attractive men and never does he pine over them. These are his brothers in arms and while he may make jokes about them being attractive they all know he does so in good fun. No member of his team is ever shown as uncomfortable around Shore Leave and regard him highly as a colleague and take his more annoying traits in stride, as he does with them.

(like i love this scene they got blasted by a stink bomb and trying to get the smell off in tomato juice and Shore Leave is just splashing him like a kid brother)

Which leads me to his romantic relationship. While Shore Leave loves to flirt he does not talk about having very many romances himself (unlike his work partner Brock), and with his appearance you might think he values attractiveness above all else but nope. He seems to prefer people he can just be at ease with and have fun around.

Enter the Alchemist, a short pudgy man, with a friars hair cut whom Shore Leave dates during the series. We see Al on his own first see his pragmatic nature but also desire to enjoy his life, see how he’s often there to assist his friends with levity or some perspective and when they get together it feels natural. Not just two gay characters hooking up.

Shore Leave was made as joke on GI Joe, he was made to be a one off gag, but the writers saw a chance to really have some fun and created one of my favorite characters ever (not just a gay one) Shore Leave has the kind of nuance lesser characters pretend they do and it’s all in this fun fit packaged who just makes you love him.

#venture bros #venture brothers #shore leave #character analysis #adult animation #queer characters #gay characters #osi

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