*Chiyo walking into Sasori’s room*
Chiyo: Boy. Clean this room up, and then clean yourself up. We’re having visitors today.
Sasori, working on a puppet: “We”? You told me that the Tsuchikage of Iwagakure was coming to see you for medical advice. What does that have to do with me?
Chiyo: *sighs* None of your sass today, child. He’s bringing one of his students with him, for you to play with. He’s —
Sasori, disgustedly: Play?? What am I, an infant? I'm eleven years old, I’m too old to play. I’d rather keep on with my —
Chiyo: *slams her hand down on Sasori’s desk* You either cooperate with me or I’m lighting a fire and burning all of this to the ground. The choice is yours.
Sasori:
*later that afternoon*
Onoki: *bowing his head* Chiyo-san. It’s a pleasure to see you again. We thank you for allowing us into your home. *gestures to the boy beside him* This is my student Deidara. Deidara, this is Chiyo-sama and her grandson, Sasori.
Chiyo: Well aren’t you a handsome young man? Sasori, take Deidara to your room and entertain him while the Tsuchikage and I talk.
Sasori: Do I have —
Chiyo: *elbows Sasori sharply*
Sasori, sighing, putting on a fake smile: Come on, Deidara-chan! Let’s go play in my room!
*the two go into Sasori’s room and Deidara’s eyes widen at all the puppets*
Deidara: Wow … did you make all these??
Sasori: Yes.
Deidara: That’s really impressive!
Sasori: Yes, I know. *goes to sit at his desk and continues working on the puppet from the morning*
Deidara: … so I take it you don’t have a lot of friends, huh? Because if you did you’d know that you don’t just ignore a guest, hm.
Sasori: I’m not ignoring you. I’m responding to you when you talk, aren’t I? I’m simply focusing the brunt of my attention on my art.
Deidara: Art?! This isn’t art; you’re just playing with dolls, like a girl!
Sasori: *turns to face Deidara* You’re mistaken. I’m creating things of beauty and perfection, pieces that will last for an eternity. That’s art.
Deidara: No, it’s not, hm. *pulls a small piece of clay from his pocket and molds it into a butterfly* Watch … *he has it float around the room, and suddenly explodes it in a small shower* That. THAT is art. A burst of fire and sparks. Art is an —
Sasori: *laughs* Are you crazy?! How is that art?? You’re just making a mess and a lot of unnecessary noise! Tsk, stupid brat!
Deidara: Don’t you call me a brat! Onoki-san said you’re only like two years older than me!
Sasori: But I’m obviously a ton smarter! And you said that “playing with dolls” makes me a girl?! You LOOK like a girl! With your stupid long blonde hair and stupid long eyelashes! And are you wearing nail polish?? God, you may as well be in a dress!
Deidara: Oh, yeah?! Well —
*later, as Onoki and Deidara are walking home*
Onoki: Well, after that treatment, I feel much better. And what about you, child? Did you enjoy your time with young Sasori?
Deidara: That boy is rude, and annoying, and he’s a weirdo, and he has NO idea what art is, and one day he’ll probably grow up and turn the whole world into those creepy puppets of his!
Onoki, startled: O-oh? I had no idea he was so —
Deidara, dreamily: We’re coming back next week, right? I can’t wait to see him again ~
Onoki:
*meanwhile, back in Suna*
Chiyo: … Sasori? What are you doing?
Sasori, standing at the stove: Practicing. Deidara said that the best sweet is dango, I say it’s sweet buns. I’m going to make him the best sweet buns of his life the next time he comes to visit. T-to prove him wrong, of course.
Chiyo:
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My little niece said something so profound the other day. She said— with all her 13-year-old wisdom; that she can’t relate to any female character in Naruto. At all. You see, I’m not fifteen anymore, so all of my animosity towards the female characters in Naruto has relatively died down over the years, mainly because I stopped watching it after the manga has ended. watching the series now objectively is really weird to me. Like… really weird.
I think you sent all these messages to the wrong blog.
Just like many other Unpopular Opinions I hold... I am a stern believer of "Kishimoto is not a Misogynist. He is an In between (neither Feminist nor Misogynist)... His annoying Sakura & Hinata were off setted by Wonderful Tsunade, Granny Chiyo and Konan + Saori from Mario manga"
I have talked about this in 3 long posts Here, Here, Here.
So, Please Block me (???) So that my posts won't hurt your opinion. And please take this post as more of questioning your own words from my POV rather than me bashing or offending you. Since your ask is pretty nice and I have no reason to offend you.
You said,
"When reading fiction, the authors values come through their work"
I wonder how far is this true??? Will you be saying the same lines for all the fiction??
Even Fan Fictions???
There are so many SNS fanfictions which has Over the Top Romance as the base. Does it means all those Authors are Extremely Romantic in real life???
Or Can we say all the Smut fan fiction writers are overtly Horny 24/7???
Or Can we say all the Eastern doujinkas who wrote smut dj between Itachi and Sasuke are practicing Incest in real life???
I guess the Answer is fairly simple and obvious.
The Answer is What the Author writes/draws has nothing to do with what they are in real life.
Then how is it that this claim of 'Kishimoto is a Misogynist because he did dirty to Sakura and Hinata' holds absolute truth???
There is this wonderful movie called Kill Bill which was directed by Quentin Tarantino. I swear it's one of the best commercial movie which passes the Bechdel Test with flying colours. Theres literally 5 women characters who were written with such a care and flair.
Among them, O Ren Ishii is my All time Favorite woman Character in the entire media. Like I am devoted her to the point of building a Worshipping hall for her. And none of women fight for getting an affection from a Dick. All of them were given such a vibrant personality with 80% of the screentime.
With the way this movie was written, you can even say Quentin Tarantino is a Feminist.
But do you know what he did to his Co Star Uma Thurman in real life???
He quite literally forced her to perform a difficult stunt that could take her life if not careful. And as it happens, she got crashed into a tree that almost killed her.
So, A director who made a movie about woman empowerment has no concern for a woman in real life and was even willing to let her die if that could get his job right????
So Tarantino is not a Feminist that he projected through his movie... At best, He is a wonderful creative artist.
Why just slandering Kishimoto but not those Smutty novel writers or doujinkas????
You know it's bad when your main female characters' goal is based around trying to build a romantic relation with a main male character
What about Naruto???
Like that dude had a wonderful dream of becoming an Hokage. But all he did was screaming, "Sasuke!!! Sasuke Sasuke!!!".
Will you actually repeat your same lines for Naruto, "You know it's bad when your Main characters' goal is based around trying to build an unexplainable relation with a Deuteragonist" ???
Do you know who says these lines in relation to Naruto???
Dudebros...
Like they literally hate the fact that Naruto was going behind Sasuke by leaving his Hokage goals behind.
If you liked Naruto going behind Sasuke, then why not Sakura though???
I find this quite hypocritic, tbh.
My point is Kishimoto always keeps one character's development to be revolved around another character. Naruto around Sasuke, Sasuke around Itachi, Obito around Rin... That's his way of writing. Gender has nothing to do here.
If you have to blame one, please blame all.
"During Tsukuyomi portion, Tsunade has her ultimate dream of making her dead husband to become an Hokage instead of her"
Anon, I think you are forgetting the basic facts here. Tsunade's original dream was to revolutionize the medical system in Konoha... And she did it successfully. And Tsunade literally carried Dan's and her brother Nawaki's dream to become an Hokage... So, it's very logical for her to see her boyfriend finally becoming an Hokage in a Tsukuyomi Dream.
Wasn't it enough for you that Kishimoto actually made Tsunade as a Hokage for 80% of the series??? Not just a simple Hokage, but a strongest Kage who took literal stabs from Madara and she was the only kage who saved all other kages by lending her chakra (eventhough her body was sliced into half) after Madara knocked them all out???
"The fact that Kushina ended up as a Housewife is such a dirty move"
It was established from the first chapter that fourth Hokage saved the village from Kyuubi and he has some connection with Naruto....
If all the 4 Hokages' faces were carved onto that rock in as early as 1st chapter, I wonder how can the Author make Kushina into another Hokage??? Like how???
And what's wrong with being an Housewife anyway??? Isn't this discriminatory towards a certain section of women???
Tsunade is the Woman Hokage.... Mei is the Woman Mizukage who was shown to reform Kirigakure into a respectable nation... Granny Chiyo, a married woman was fighting A Robotic Monster at a ripe old age of 85...
I mean, No.... Some Women were given leadership position in this Manga... And Some prefer to be Housewife on their own choice... Kushina becoming Hokage has no base anywhere.
But Still
He made Kushina into a working Jounin along with Minato in Road to Ninja movie, A movie whose story was conceived and composed by Kishi himself.
If he could make Kushina as a working woman, Minato into a Dishwashing husband in a movie.... Where is Misogyny here????
As for all your other asks, I've already covered in my attached posts... Not gonna repeat here.
But I have this question
Why do you badly want Hinata to have more scenes in a Gay Manga???? Like how does that helps SNS???? Gay media means A media that portrays Love and Relationship between 2 male characters... Kishimoto will do anything if that means that could prop up Naruto and Sasuke... Because this story is about them.
He created Sakura to compare and contrast Naruto's similar feelings towards Sasuke...
He created Hinata to compare and contrast Sasuke's similar feelings towards Naruto...
He created Obito to show how Naruto would've turned out had he lost Iruka and Sasuke...
He created Hashirama and Madara to compare and contrast their similarities and differences with Naruto and Sasuke.
Like everything Kishi does, he does it to serve only Naruto and Sasuke... But why do you want Hinata to change her clan and have prominent role in a manga filled with Gay characters??? Would you be okay if I make strong Male characters in a Lesbian novel and make it all about men??? Why is this insistence that Women needs to be inserted in all the places???
Does Broke back mountain has a strong woman character???
But Claymore, A shounen manga has more strong woman characters than any other Manga... But why nobody is talking about it???
Mario, a manga which was written by Kishimoto himself. He literally made Saori into the MVP of that manga... Like the story won't move if there is no Saori (AKA A female version of Sasuke)... But why nobody is appreciating his work???
Why everything has to be about Hinata and Sakura??? Because they are associated with the Main Characters??? So, A Woman gains her importance only through A Man... I just don't get this Logic.
Here's why I don't think Kishimoto is a Misogynistic Monster, this fandom portrays him to be.
1. He wrote Tsunade, a secondary side character to have a dream that has nothing to do with a Man... Fulfilled it successfully like a boss... Then carried his loved one's dream and truly became an Hokage. While Tsunade was fulfilling a dream after another, Jiraiya was wandering aimlessly... Kakashi explicitly told he doesn't have a dream.
A character to have her own arc... A character to have a solo fight with 2 main villains of this series... (Million times better written than Sakura and Hinata)
2. He wrote Konan, a secondary side character... Only woman Akatsuki member... Had a notable fight with the main villain of this series and almost killed him... (If only he wasn't an Uchiha... he would be dead already)... (She did more than what Hinata did in the entire series)
3. HE WROTE SAORI, A FEM VERSION OF SASUKE.
4. He never sexualized little girls... However he sexualized Sasuke and Sai though.
5. He never idolized Hinata as the ideal woman as the Dudebros wanks for her to be. However, he idolized Saori kind of woman in his works. Which shows he likes women to be strong.
6. His portrayal of women characters in Road to Ninja and Mario is worthy to be noted. Other than Hinata and Sakura, his portrayal of women characters in Naruto is pretty decent.
7. If Kishi made Sakura to feel inferior with Hinata's boobs... Then he also made Naruto to feel inferior with his short ding dong...
8. If Kishi made Kurenai's dad to instruct his daughter to bore him a Grandson, then he also made Hashirama to instruct his clansmen to promise on their Grandsons that they won't kill Madara. Meaning, It's a Pro Natalist comment irrespective of Gender.
9. A culture which promotes Marriage and to have kids... Tsunade remained single.
10. He literally made Shikamaru to have a draw with Temari in Chunin Exams... He made Temari to protect Shikamaru's ass in the Sasuke retrieval arc... Meaning, Shikamaru and Temari are equals. So, you are calling an Author as a misogynist who created Hetero Couples who are equals... Like DanTsunade, ShikaTema, Mario/Saori, Minato/Kushina (in RTN movie)????
If you want me to say Kishi is a Misogynist, then all the above 10 points shouldn't exist...
Kishimoto could've easily wrote Hinata to have more scenes like changing her clan and whatnot + A Big boobed bimbo + An Ideal Waifu whose only job is to satisfy Naruto + Naruto living happily with his beautiful but a bimbo wife... This version of Hinata's portrayal would have made me tag this author as a shitty misogynist...
But that's not the case...
Considering his positives cancels out the negatives... He should be deemed as a neutral instead of tagging him as Negative.
And hence, Kishimoto is an In Between.
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