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just-antithings · 6 months
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this are actually green flags
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oooh some fascist dog whistling in there at the end too!
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prokopetz · 2 years
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Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but I’m genuinely extremely confused. I’m intrigued by all the stuff you and others post about Glitch/Nobilis, but I’m so bewildered by the publication history of the whole thing. I literally don’t know what book I should be buying to understand the first thing about the setting. Or is there, like, a wiki or something? Can you suggest an end of the ball of yarn?
Okay, so.
The Editions
Nobilis has had three major editions to date, plus a couple of spin-offs.
Nobilis 1st Edition (1999; also known as the Pharos Press or "little pink book" edition): Produced as a digest-size limited edition hardcover, this version of the game has never been made available in any digital format, and is now considered a collector's item.
Nobilis 2nd Edition (2002; also known as the Hogshead or "great white book" edition): Produced as an 11"x11" coffee table art book, which was an eccentric format for a tabletop RPG even at the time – the author basically looked at the game’s budding reputation for being insufferably artsy and said “okay, you know what?”, and it shows!
This edition’s first printing proved to be immensely popular, and is where most older fans were first introduced to the game; the second printing was lost and presumed destroyed due to fraud and criminal negligence on the part of its distributor, and no digital edition could be made available due to licensing problems with the illustrations. The latter issue was finally cleared up in the mid 2010s, allowing the author to self-publish a digital version which can be obtained here.
Nobilis 3rd Edition (2011; also known as "Nobilis: The Essentials"): A crowdfunded edition with a new publisher, this edition was plagued with problems right from the start; shortly before publication, several pieces of art commissioned by the publisher turned out to be traced Touhou fanart, forcing the author to have the offending pieces replaced at the last minute and at her own expense.
It was subsequently withdrawn from sale entirely, after the publisher was caught misappropriating Kickstarter funds for personal use and vanished from the face of the Internet. Fortunately, the author retained ownership of the text, and was eventually able to put forth a self-published digital version with completely new art and layout here.
Chuubo’s Marvelous Wish-Granting Engine (2014): A spin-off game set in a post-apocalyptic alternative timeline, using a different set of mechanics which are not compatible with the core game. Owing to their shared setting history up until the point where their respective timelines diverge, you’ll often see folks citing material from Chuubo’s in the context of Nobilis discussions, and vice versa, but they’re very much separate beasts.
The publishing history of Chuubo’s is a big gnarly mess in its own right, both because it’s split across about a million different books, and because it switched publishers mid-production owing to the aforementioned crowdfunding malfeasance – going into it is well beyond the scope of this post; suffice it to say that the author’s self-published version can be obtained here.
Glitch (2020): Another spin-off game, this one taking place in the same setting and timeline as Nobilis, but focusing on one of the core game's villainous factions. The system is a prototype toward an eventual Nobilis 4th Edition, however, so it's of interest to those who keenly follow the game's development.
This is the first version of the game to be entirely self-published, the author having evidently come to the reasonable conclusion that if you want something done right, you've gotta do it yourself! Available here.
Which One You Should Get
Broadly speaking, all versions of Nobilis fall into the category of “diceless god-games”. You play as conditionally omnipotent avatars of various aspects of reality, charged with defending the borders of the cosmos from the world-devouring god-monsters who dwell in the Lands Beyond. The latter have a notable tendency to take the form of anime pretty boys dressed up like fascist mall goths, for reasons that are far too complicated to explain here. The spin-off games change this formula up a little.
The first and second editions are mostly compatible rules-wise, differing mainly in terms the breadth of their setting lore and the content of their examples of play. There’s no reason to chase down the little pink book unless you’re trying to complete a collection. (And if you are, good luck!)
The second edition, though considered a classic, is no longer widely played, partly because it was stuck in publishing hell for over a decade, but also because the mechanics have some fairly specific baked-in assumptions about the shape of play that a lot of folks don’t vibe with – it basically wants player characters to act like corrupt politicians who spend most of their time wrangling with dysfunctional family drama and bullshitting their monstrously evil superiors rather than going out and having adventures. (And if that’s what you’re into, more power to you!) The setting is also very much a product of 1990s grimdark, which can be a plus or a minus depending on your tastes.
The third edition is the one you’re most likely to run into in online discussions – if no edition is specified, assuming folks mean 3E is a good bet. It reconfigures the mechanics to be more flexible (i.e., more amenable to Scooby-Doo bullshit) and presents a considerably more whimsical take on the setting.
Reactions to the mechanical revisions have been almost universally positive. Reactions to the setting revisions have been more split, with many players feeling that it errs too much on the side of whimsy. It’s sometimes jokingly been described as “Nobilis: Anime Edition”, which can be either criticism or praise depending on context.
(One facet that it’s generally agreed is a step back from the second edition is the near-total lack of worked examples of play, which can make the rules harder to puzzle out.)
The premise of Chuubo’s Marvelous Wish-Granting Engine is that the bad guys in Nobilis won and destroyed reality, but also accidentally destroyed their own realm in the process. The game is a pastoral fantasy about teenage gods growing up and coming into their power in a Ghibli-esque small town that’s all that remains of the former cosmos; what’s left of the game’s formerly antagonistic factions co-exist there in relative peace because, well, it’s not like they’ve got much choice!
The mechanics broadly gesture toward Nobilis 3rd Edition, but are not compatible, being more concerned with rigorous, fine-grained mechanical modelling of plot beats and story arcs and such than with resolving fights. There’s a lot of stuff in Chuubo’s that it straight up wouldn’t occur to nearly any other game to have mechanics for at all.
In spite of the system being both diceless and very nearly mathless, character creation in Chuubo’s is so complicated that most folks use the pre-generated PCs included in the campaign books. If you’re inclined to roll your own characters, you may wish to look elsewhere.
Finally, Glitch flips the script, retaining the same setting and continuity as the core game, but it has you playing as the aforementioned world-devouring god-monsters – or, more specifically, as a heretical splinter faction that’s retired from the War On Reality for various personal reasons. In practice, you’re mostly a support group for terminally ill anti-gods that sometimes solves crimes.
Glitch splits the difference between the second edition’s grimdark and the third edition’s whimsy, though a big part of that change in focus is due to who you’re playing as – the text pretty pointedly implies that a hypothetical game about Creation’s gods would be a lot lighter in tone.
As mentioned above, the rules can be considered a preview of Nobilis 4th Edition, though they currently lack the specific bits and bobs you’d need to play as anything other than the baddies, unless you’re willing to do a lot of homebrewing.
Any questions?
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saltminerising · 5 months
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angry message from your local korean, stop fucking making skins with rising sun designs i'm going to rip my own hair out why the fuck does staff let these get approved!!! it's LITERALLY a fascist symbol holy fucking shit. im so glad im seeing asks about this on smr so i know im not the only one bursting a blood vessel in rage about this im in hell this is hell
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moa-broke-me · 7 months
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Nico was supposed to die. Every single step of the way.
He nearly died several times, he played dead like a possum to survive the jar. His body started to flicker and fade when he'd exhausted himself. For a while, he wanted to die. At the very least, to bring his sister back, to bring an end to his grief. He's not from this time, he was trapped in a time dilation zone for half of his childhood and if he hadn't been, he likely would've died from some disease now easily cured. His memories were erased, he was dead to the world. Zeus wanted him, his sister, his mother, all dead. He got his mother, decades later his sister followed suit. He was born from death, his dna intertwined with it from the very moment he was conceived. And let's not forget that he was born in Italy, a country which, at the time, wanted to kill him and all those like him, all those disabled, queer, or in his case, both.
And yet, he's survived. Through everything.
Because there's no way he's giving them what they want. Not Zeus, not the fascists, not the monsters that attempt to eat him alive.
He will live. And he will be happy.
Even if it's just to prove those fuckers wrong.
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gatsby-system-folks · 4 months
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I'm remembering that post the other day that was like. "Dear diary, today I got called a fascist for saying that drinking water is a good idea", and i got thinking.
A lot of the time (not all the time, the "gentle remimder" genre of advice posts lol), advice (even very, very good advice, like drinking water) is offered as either an unrealistic cure-all ("You're not depressed/autistic/disabled, you just don't drink enough water!"), or presented in a way that's so mean ("you gen z babies don't know how to drink enough water!"), and then "advice" becomes synonymous with denial, bullying, and generally being unhelpful.
So when genuinely good advice is presented in an actually kind, helpful way, like that person was doing the other day ("in addition to other resources for helping you feel better, such as therapy, mobility aids, medication, etc, little things like getting enough sleep and drinking plenty of water can help you stay healthy!" was basically what I got from it), due to that harmful association, gets treated the same way, as a dismission of a problem, as bullying almost.
This doesn't seem to be a very common phenomenon, but it does happen, so it's probably good to be aware of. Like,, read over the post you're replying to before you make a mean comment, and make sure you've understood *their* meaning and not just your own interpretation.
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rraskolnikov · 5 months
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something about the “if the election was between hitler and mussolini i would be very concerned if you didn’t vote mussolini” tweet that is so unflinchingly honest i can’t get it out of my head. really laying bare the fact that you see voting (the only political act that liberals allow themselves to take) as an expression of individual morality and virtuousness rather than a collective act of self-determination. that the most fearsome and indeed the only material consequence you can imagine for such an act is an omniscient presence looking on, concerned
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nicollodollanganger · 8 months
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Spotify is like ah I see you listen to metal sometimes can I interest you in fifty bands with nazi imagery as album covers?
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drumlincountry · 1 year
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There's this beautiful radiant white haired woman in my writers group & she's a retired art therapist who is now a full time carer of her mother & we've spoken a lot about the agonies of having very broken family members including young men u love (her son & nephews, my brother & cousins) becoming drawn towards neonazi ideologies when you can literally REMEMBER when they were gentle young boys who loved the world ....... & today I randomly ran into her and her son in a coffee shop and somehow I agreed to going with him to a "helping refugees learn English through casual conversation" event tomorrow. Help.
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silver-ace-of-spades · 2 months
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I'm sorry if this meme is offensive, but I had to make it because I realized that my search history probably looks really suspicious now, and making memes is the only way I can think of right now to cope with this absolute shitshow
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Jesus fucking Christ there's a lot of similarities. I was completely expecting this but it still caught me off guard.
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deathlygristly · 4 months
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The spousal person and I thought about going to the city's New Year's thing downtown. All public transit is free tonight including the light rail, which is a good idea I think.
But in the end we decided not to because neither of us were very excited about it, and instead we're going to order pizza and watch some kdrama.
Speaking of which, it's weird trying to find discussion about Gyeongsang Creature. We're two episodes in and watching a third tonight. Maybe fourth, since we're both off tomorrow.
It's set a few months before the end of WWII. Like I always say, I read every book the local library had on the Holocaust when I was 9. I am very familiar with the Germany side of the war. I've only been getting into the Asian side of it within the last couple of years of kdrama watching.
So far the articles I found that bring up Unit 731 and the real history the show is based on seem to not know much about kdramas, and then the kdrama people seem to not know much about the history.
Unit 731 wasn't located in Korea, but there were Koreans imprisoned and used for experiments and killed there - well, all the prisoners were killed at the end of the war, just like in the first episode where the soldiers shoot everyone in the cells.
I don't know. Just saw a take like "there's plenty of story available in that time period, they didn't need the creature" and it's like yeah, but everything shown is real and really did happen except the creature and it's very easy to interpret the creature as the Korean emotion of han made into a brain drinker tentacled thing. At least the creature offers some catharsis of impaling soldiers on her tentacles and drinking their brains.
I feel like I've been expressing a fair bit of frustration lately with some of what I see in the kdrama community, and I guess yeah, I am frustrated. I need to look for people who have more detailed discussions and who are more familiar with different types of stories and who are interested in understanding the history and culture that the dramas come from.
Anyway, yeah, just like with some of the Nazis, the US gave the Japanese officials immunity in return for the information gathered through their experiments.
What is it with fascists and wanting to hurt others so bad? I guess it's their fetish for wanting to compensate for their base weakness and appear strong to themselves by hurting other living beings they project their own weakness into. Was thinking of a statement I found from a doctor who watched some of the Unit 731 experiments and how detached the doctor sounded during a scene in the show in which a prisoner told the Japanese artist who was employed to draw the experiments that he'd get used to it after a while, that everyone there did.
Sigh.
Anyway let's think about happy things like how the spousal person just left to pick up the pizza.
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Using my knowledge of the fascist cult of death to play my moral scrupulousity ocd against my suicide ideation
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just-antithings · 5 months
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Yeah I’ll take blatant facist rhetoric for 20
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salomeslashes · 1 year
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book ask game book ask game
10 the worst book u have ever read? 20 do u prefer audio books or e-books? 30 give any 3 book recs to ur followers!
Aah, thank you, friend!! (This ask game.)
10 the worst book u have ever read?
I don't typically finish books I hate, and I hate to say this about a book I haven't finished, so I'm gonna have to go with the time that I read Fifty Shades of Grey so that I could "form my own opinion" about it. Godawful waste of time, frankly. A dreadful book, and honestly dangerous for those of us who are, like, actually involved in the kink community.
20 do u prefer audio books or e-books?
Though there is a time and a place for both, I LOVE audiobooks. I can listen to them while I drive! Or while I clean! Or while I knit! It's the best! (Also, in case it isn't clear from this answer, audiobook reading is absolutely reading and I'm not sure why I have to keep reasserting this to people [not you].)
30 give any 3 book recs to ur followers!
Here are three I've loved lately:
The Honeys by Ryan LaSala (YA Horror. A genderfluid teen goes to a very strictly binary-ed summer camp to try and figure out what caused their twin sister's death. Peak daytime horror.)
The Getaway by Lamar Giles (YA Horror again. Essentially what would happen if Disney World were an Amazon-scale company town during the sudden onset of the apocalypse. Gripping. It had my every waking thought for the three days I was reading it and the following week or so.)
Tell Me I'm Worthless by Alison Rumfitt (Adult Horror. TW for absolutely everything I can think of honestly, but I found it very worthwhile. A haunted house story where the ghost is fascism, viewed through a very trans lens. There is an author-penned TW at the beginning of the book which I highly recommend you pay attention to, but if you can stomach it, it will change you on a molecular level. Made me want to tear out a Nazi's heart with my teeth and lay it still-warm at the author's feet like an awed housecat.)
Enjoy!
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There's something to be said about the risk of turning activism into 'how to be a good consumer' and that's certainly something that routinely needs to be addressed. But at the same time, things like the situation with Hogwarts Legacy can bring up questions of how likely you are of being a reliable accomplice in liberation and activism, and how ready you are for sacrifices of convenience and privilege going forward.
It reminds me a little of the climate crisis and the relation it has with personal choices, you know avoiding plastic, reducing meat, that kinda thing. None of that is materially gonna do jackshit from a wider perspective. You're still participating in the capitalist system that's causing much of that exploitation and destruction, and most plastic pollution doesn't occur at the personal level of the consumer.
But getting into the habit of making certain sacrifices could make it much easier for the individual once we do begin to live in a sustainable society. In such a society, we're not gonna be able to have nearly as many conveniences as we have now, because a sustainable society needs us to produce less, requires us to sew up old clothes, reuse items etc. I'm not gonna get into it, there's plenty of resources that can explain further, but hopefully you get my drift.
Buying Hogwarts Legacy and engaging with the Wizarding World is gonna lead to many trans and Jewish folk in particular distrusting your commitment to their liberation, no matter how much material damage you're actually causing. That's your choice, and those are the consequences you have to own.
Until you're an antifascist who writes to prisoners, sets up mutual aid groups, covers up fascist stickers, emails venues about white supremacist groups they've booked, starts anarchist comedy nights in squatted buildings you've helped clean up with trans commies, occupies a Uni accommodation going on rent strike, graffitis a statue, feeds a homeless encampment, or blockades logging companies from accessing a forest, then maybe folks won't mind so much if you pirate the wizard game.
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specters · 2 years
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whenever gender cr*ticals defend themselves over holding hands with fascists they’re like “well, you wouldn’t stop believing the sky is blue if a bigot said it was, would you? you wouldn’t turn into a flat earther if a bigot said the earth was round, right?” but the difference here is that “sky is blue” is not an inherent belief system. believing the earth to be flat, though, IS an anti-science, conspiratorial belief system (and GC’s have much more in common with them than anyone else). 
my behaviors, the way i think, & my goals are not intertwined with the fact that the earth is round or the sky is blue. my thoughts, behaviors, and goals are connected to my beliefs around trans rights and the health and safety of all trans people. GC’s have a belief SYSTEM in common with self-proclaimed fascists. an ideological similarity towards a shared goal in the erasure (socially, legally, physically) of trans people. wanting trans women eradicated is not the same as believing the sky to be blue, but i’m positive they know that.  
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snobgoblin · 1 year
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