#esp the anti ones

[satellitesunset]

hi I'm aware I have not been here in ages. life is insane. but I'd like to say it's hysterically endearing to me that like old-ish posts of mine r gaining traction bc it's forcing to have like self reflection moments.

#why r my GLEE posts getting likes #esp the anti ones #its comedic im glad to know my hater era is getting appreciated ok #god i will say its like diabolical to see how committed i was to being a menace of glee blog #the takes?? rancid. 10/10. commitment to bit at its finest i had nothing but free time and spite #anyways ok sry for yapping. #ive like recently got into DC on a whole new level #which like least shocking thing ever #might rebrand idk. might continue my disappearance. #myle mummers #ALSO goddamn i have an insane tumblr digitalprint esp compared to other platform

[chaos-in-one]

Shout out to that time I got accused of faking OSDD-1 because I didn't "specify what subtype I have"

Like girlie 1a and 1b are community terms, they aren't in the DSM, they aren't a diagnosis. Not using them and instead using the base diagnostic term is not a sign of faking 😭

#that one is still really funny to me #esp with how many people I've seen fakeclaim over people using OSDD-1b and OSDD-1a for themselves #like okay people are fakers for using the community terms but I'm also a faker for NOT using them???? #make it make sense #OSDD #osdid #system issues #system stuff #plural #actually plural #actually osdd #actually dissociative #fakeclaiming #anti fakeclaiming

[somesoups]

imma be completely honest, i just checked out the watchertv website and i can absolutely see why they were so excited for it - without context, it looks so cool and i would be SO proud of them cos that's huge you know? and i can absolutely see how this has been something they've been aiming for (i remember both ryan & shane talking about how it's been their dream to create high-quality, tv-level productions at various points in time).

but as many have said, a huge issue was perhaps in the execution. assuming this was a set-in-stone end goal for them, much could still have been done to transition the audience gradually to this new platform. ofc, i acknowledge that hindsight is 20/20 but, well. i have to admit that some aspects of how this was executed were indeed quite tone-deaf.

THAT BEING SAID, while i absolutely understand that this tone-deafness could have been extremely hurtful, using this situation as an opportunity to be racist, to attack steven's religion, or to harrass their partners on their socials is completely out of line. this whole fiasco has revealed a startling & upsetting amount of toxicity that is colouring the entire fandom in a really bad light.

also, while i understand that steven being the sole CEO position does make him more responsible over such business decisions, i truly do not think that the "steven is the only villian, he's threatening R&S with a gun" narrative is warranted. as mentioned above, R&S have both expressed their dreams of making high-quality productions (nothing wrong with that btw) and they're also both still the co-founders & main faces of the platform. there's a much higher likelihood that they were both on board with this, and pinning all the blame on steven like this to protect and coddle your 'faves' is frankly a little embarrassing.

#watcher #watcher entertainment #shane madej #ryan bergara #steven lim #esp ppl who coddle shane - i adored him too but to say that he couldnt have been part of this bc he was always vehemently anti-capitalist? #please be fr hes a grown ass man and hes one of the key players in this company #also frankly it's virtually impossible to be truly anti-capitalist if you're running a company in today's economy #mine

[itsgivingfaggot]

One thing I find really exhausting about being transmasc is how often people just sort of like. Assume we dont experience something regarding transphobia, like, collectively, none of us do? That somehow the world treats every transmasc with love and care and respect.

Like recently saw someone talk about how nonbinary transfems have to be really feminine to have the transfem part respected, their pronouns respected, instead of being treated as "basically a cis guy". I was all on board and excited to see someone talk about this phenomenon until it had the added attitude towards the end of "this is a transfem issue specifically. People only do this to transfems"

I typed out a paragraph right here showing examples of this happening to transmascs as well including irl experience of this shit from fucking last month but you know what? Fuck that. If you really wanna act like this doesnt exist then either you dont interact with any transmascs, in which case you're not gonna see this anyways. And if you do interact with us you've most likely seen plenty of examples of this and just chosen to ignore it, in which case me listing some more of this shit wouldnt change that anyways.

#transmasc #transsexual #transgender #nonbinary transmasc #transandrophobia #anti transmasculinity #as if people dont fucking constantly joke online abt misgendering transmascs esp nonbinary ones for like. millions of things #including the fucking neutral state of our chests

[themoonking]

finally finished the priory of the orange tree after putting it off for like a year, and putting aside the fact that it's insanely boring, way too long, and the romance is lackluster, it certainly was a choice to, in a book at least in part about finding common ground and coming together, basically go "religion a is correct and good and its believers can continue on their merry lives, but religion b is a 100% incorrect wrong bad lie founded by a wrong bad misogynistic lying liar, and everyone who believes in it should convert and in fact we're going to end the book by heavily implying that the recently-converted queen is going to slowly but surely pressure the entire country to convert because their faith is wrong and bad". like that was certainly a decision that samantha shannon made.

#idk i don't love an entire religion being painted as objectively inherently bad and wrong #especially since none of the six virtue's actual teachings are that bad like #and also esp since the only other thing we learn about galian berethnet is that he was fucking r/ped by his own mother #and was so distraught upon learning this that he killed himself #the fact that aside from that its just like 'he was a lying liar who lies and hated women' just didn't sit right with me... #the priory of the orange tree #priory of the orange tree #the roots of chaos #anti booktok #samantha shannon #like the entire time before this was revealed i was like #'ah its so obvious - both faiths are going to end up being a little bit wrong and a little bit right' #'of course it will be revealed that cleolind and galian actually worked together to defeat the nameless one' #'and learning this will really press into the characters that they themselves need to work together to defeat him again' #but instead like???? #and like even with the kalyba stuff it would have been so easy you can say like: #cleolind and galian worked together but kalyba (canonically posessive and jealous and willing to do horrible things to keep galian w/ her) #uses her magic to make cleolind believe that galian betrayed her which she then goes and tells her priory #+ in an effort to keep as low a profile as possible for herself while disguised as cleolind she makes galian believe that he did everything #and when her disguise falls he's so distraught that he kills himself and so the only one who knows the truth is kalyba #who certainly has no motivation to reveal the truth

[winteryapothecaries]

The specific breed of anti zutaras for "anti colonial" purposes are the oddest lot. U are not and never will be an activist for disliking a fictional ship. This comes after me dealing with harassment and stalkerish behavior from one person just for posting a few pro zutara tiktoks. Decolonial theory was developed from a place of empathy, healing and the desire to enact justice in the world- this absolutely alludes them. Not a smidge of kindness in these ppl.

#I'm talking about the rabid ones #Zutara #Katara #Zuko #Go to therapy please #Esp those who run anti accounts

[significant-ace-nnoyance]

besides the byler of it all, can we talk about how powerful it would be for milkdud not to be endgame in s5?

like the idea that a woman's happy ending doesn't have to include her ending up with the guy? the message that it is okay to love and care about someone without the pressure to be in a romantic relationship with them? the healthiness of setting boundaries and exploring who you are, especially as a teenager (not to mention one who grew up in a literal lab and never had the chance to be a person before a relationship was thrust on her)?? just the IMPACT it would have to see the main female lead be allowed to come into her own and find support in friends and familial love and for that to be the end??? for her to be happy that this is where her story ends??

that is what we should be teaching the children.

#let el slay by herself #with friends!! with family!! with superpowers if she still wants them #but WITHOUT needing to conform to the social protocol of a boy-meets-girl relationship!! #esp a really unhealthy one at that LMAO #i feel like thats one reason why there arent a ton a milkduds #like yes is the GA heteronormative and sort of going along w and expecting mjolnir? ofc #but no one w common sense is actually out there actively supporting this train wreck of a relationship 💀 #from your local (possibly aro) ace who understands that romantic relationships do not equal happiness <3 #anyways #also the byler of it all #hehe #anti m*leven #byler #time for el's independent girlboss slay queen era #eleven

[emblazons]

Me trying to stay neutral when someone tags any of my gifsets with mlvn and/or any “he’s so in love with El” commentary b/c they’ve breached containment:

#like I get gifs are free range for anyone. and I would never in my life enter the tags of a gif set I know was made my a mlvn with Byler #despite knowing some of my fave gif makers are in the mlvn side of the fandom #and honestly I love that! your creative/editing ability shouldn’t be cornered based on sharing a ship! #but…lmaooo why would you make me see this #I can’t write ‘gay Mike truther and borderline ElMike anti’ in bold on my posts but #I really do wish people would just. enjoy the work without making it about a ship it’s not. ESP my gen Mike sets lmao #or the byler in law (?!?) ones #also this is as close to a hater post as I get but lmao it’s happened FOUR TIMES today 😭 #the me tag

[lewishamiltonstuff]

Had a guy tell me that boycotting isn't gonna help at all, I'm illiterate and it's baffling that I've passed one of the most difficult exams ever, my boycott hasn't stopped the genocide, IDF is still getting funds, why didn't I think of the poor man who opened a franchise of fucking Baskin Robins before I decided to boycott, reports showing how badly giants like Starbucks and McDonalds are suffering mean nothing and that he can write a report too, if i had checked the degrees of the people before believing their reports, I should break my phone and stop using my car, and when I told him that his laugh reacts to all my messages aren't helping, he told me just like your boycott, my laugh reacts have no impact.

ANNNNND when I stopped replying to his messages, the mf had the nerve to send me a message saying that he wants to offer me constructive criticism that I'm very rigid in my opinions and I should learn to be flexible when he didn't, for a second, move from his rigid pov.

And then people ask why we need feminism and why it's hard being a woman.

#free palestine #and fucking free us women #i'm so done #so damn tired #it's hard being a woman esp in a south asian society that's the epitome of patriarchy and sexism and misogyny #the boycott works people. please don't let anyone tell you otherwise esp when the people in question is a 24 yo man who can't grow a beard #i am a feminist and I'll be one forever #personal rant #non f1 #feminism #anti sexism #anti men #men are shit #boycott israel #boycott starbucks #boycott mcdonalds #keep boycotting #men are so fucking stupid #the nerve #oh my god

[padfootastic]

yeah so it’s not like my codependent james & sirius don’t love or care for other people. it’s that, when it comes down to it, their default is the other and sorry if u don’t think that’s different but it is.

they’re not putting the people in their life on a twisted graded hierarchy, they’re just?? each others?? most important person?? like bro why is it that the most common tropes on fucking earth are a problem when it’s prongsfoot????

#if u couldn’t tell already #i keep going onto the anti pf side of things #and ykno what i’m gonna do it. i’m gonna take the plunge. do what i dislike. and block. #(no but i’ll try to. really) #lEt tHeM bE bRoS #dOnT cHeApEn tHeiR fRieNdShIp #yah and while we’re at this it let’s also let the history books say they were friends #because we don’t have enough male friendships so we need representation 😀 #(sometimes??? do they realise??? they’re regurgitating older homophobic phrases or???) #like bro. ur not the only one w life exp. #‘sometimes i think these people don’t/can’t—‘ shut up shut UP #i hate romance irl. can’t do it will never do it don’t like it. #but that’s not my fictional consumption now is it? #and won’t be either #j&s occupy a space more than friends OR lovers #also don’t know why some people r seeking realism?? in this universe?? esp considering what they’re writing usually?? #like. some self awareness pls? #if y’all can’t tell. i’m annoyed lmao #i’m just sick of seeing j/s treated like. idk. it’s the first or only ship to romanticise friendships or wtv #WHILE and this bit is imp WHILE loudly shipping w*l farar and j*gulus like??? #just say u like those ships and go?? #but also. that last point is just me being frustrated. i get the bitching bc i do the same w those two ships #so like. yeah. respect their right to rant. but won’t respect the rant lol #also…this isn’t @ like anyone in particular . it’s just many people on the anti pf mwpp side i’ve seen who have similar arguments #and they’re always the stupidest #which i wouldn’t care for so much it if they didn’t constantly bring up ‘real life! realistic! not how it works!’ etc etc #yah #that’s it for now #i’m sure i’ll come back later lmao #pen’s whining

[bookofwambs]

will byers can’t have a characteristic or a trait all to himself. he was always always labeled as the artist in the show (even dustin said how they needed will when max drew her vecna vision) and obviously he can’t have that bc milevens decided that el has to be artist as well. mike is will’s muse confirmed but again will can’t have that bc no mike needs to be el’s muse as well. it’s just really annoying how milevens are stealing will’s characteristics and traits and trying to shove them into el bc they’re so threatened by will? like what did he do to for you to try and take away from his character?

el can be artistic, she can have mike as her muse. but she was only given those traits once it was established that will had them. and the fact that mike loves will’s art and actually cherishes it, milevens had to make sure el was artistic as well.

it’s weird. if you’re so confident about your ship and your favourite character, why are you trying to take away from another’s???

#also lol el is not really artistic in the same way will is and even joyce confirmed that #when joyce was shown a stick figure drawing and was like NOPE THAT’S NOT WILL’S… #like have your headcanons and whatever but why do you have to steal it from a character esp one you hate? #anti mileven #honestly some of you milevens make me so mad #esp when you impled that maybe the painting could have came from el…6 months after the season aired #byler #will byers

[mumpsetc]

I, Like Every Brony in the Modern Day It Seems, Really Like Vylet Pony But IMO Her Work Lacks That Same Punch Shit Like Cats Millionaire or SGaP Had. It's Not That Its More Fandom Based, Plenty of SGaP and Cats Millie Was That Too But It Just Feels More Disconnected From the Characters AND Specific Fandom Interpretations, It's Too General to Really Hook Me the Same Way

#Like OK What About Fluttershy Makes You Interpret Her as a Scene Kid Gir Hoodie Pony? Why are Maud and Derpy in Love? #Why is Pinkie Specifically the Lesbian Pony W/ a Chainsaw? (I Know The Answer to This One Im Just Whining) #Antonymph Esp Bothers Me in a Stupid Way. DGMW I Do Love the Song a Lot But Its Too GENERAL to Be Narrowed in on Fluttershy #And I Get It Isnt Technically About Her Its About Me the Listener But Its a Hurdle I Cant Just Easily Jump! #I Do Need to Listen to More Ive Only Listened to Cutiemarks and the Things That Bind Us and Tales From Equestria #Ive Heard Great Things About Carousel #And I Do Think Cutiemarks is a Good Ass Album I Do Love the Titletrack and Think the Exploration of Cutiemarks as a Concept in That Album #Are Really Good #I Just Love Pony Music When It Feels Like an Encapsulation of the Character or Concept and VP Just Feels Too Disconnected for That to Me #I Will Say Though the Production on Her Work is a Lot Easier to Just Toss On and Listen To. When I Got Sgap or Cats Millie On I Am in a MOD #And VP I Can Enjoy Basically Anytime So Her Accessibility is Definintely a Bonus Too #IDK Dont Listen to Me Im Just Somepony With Too Many Opinions on This. Sgap Was My Third Most Listened to Artist According to Spotify #Anyways if Antonymph Was Gonna Be a General Anti-Cringe Song It Shouldve Used a BG Pony and If It Was Gonna Be a Character Song #It Shouldve Been About Twilight #Also Rarity is Really OOC in Cutiemarks I Do Not Like Syndicate and Nonexistant Meet Cute is Good But #BUT... #Eh Whatever The Tags are Like Triple the Fuckin Post #Dreamy.txt

[troonwolf]

Do you have any legit reason for calling it a cult? Or do you just dislike them

Here I've basically answered this before but I do have a lot more to say so buckle in because you literally asked for it.

First, excerpts from private essays alters in here have written -

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"Many cults and fringe spiritual communities have sprouted from Western religious fundamentalism, based on the idea that symptoms of mental illness aren’t really mental illness, that medicine and psychology can’t be trusted, and that what mentally ill people need is to somehow ascend passed their illness.

We see this in Scientology for instance, which when you look at it, actually holds similar ideas to endogenic spirituality: symptoms of mental illness are attributed to alien ghosts plaguing the body, psychiatry is completely rejected, and the only way to treat mental illness is to ascend to higher consciousness.

Obviously, Scientology isn’t the only cult that believes such things, just the most recognisable. If you look through the history of Western cults and fundamentalism, you’ll find an on-going theme of rejecting psychiatry, rejecting medicine, and telling people their mental illness is either a gift from god or a curse they have to overcome. 

Endogenics hold the exact same position: symptoms of a mental health issue (dissociation, identity disturbance, internal voices) aren’t symptoms of a mental health issue. They’re a natural part of you- in fact they make you a better person than if you were singlet. They treat “pluralty” as if it’s a higher state of being, and many of them come from faith backgrounds which most now reject, but have replaced by spiritualising mental health."

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"+ Link to a whole article denying DID systems personhood. They’re telling mentally ill people that to be considered worthy of personhood, they have to assimilate into this belief system. I also know many systems who have had this done to them when they were in “mixed origin” spaces, and have experienced this for myself. It’s even worse in private spaces, where they can’t be held accountable for their actions."

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Also to break this down / add to it:

They have a niche belief system that rejects our known understanding of the world while placing all their faith on an ideology with no proof behind it and no support from respected institutions, either spiritual or scientific.

They actively target mentally ill and vulnerable people to assimilate into their belief system and instil a fear in them towards seeking treatment or of being seen as mentally ill, as well as an overall distrust in the field of psychiatry as a whole. (Not just criticism towards the institution for its many disgraces during its development, but an outright rejection of it as an idea.)

They go as far as to spread guides on how you can force dissociation or hallucinations- this is literally cult programming.

They further other forms of cult programming, such as system hopping which is inherently a tactic of abuse and control.

Anyone who denounces the cult is othered using language that would be incomprehensible to someone not in the cult - traumascum, sysmed, etc.

They treat their ideology and "plurality" as a higher state of being and use that as a method of recruiting others, telling singlets it's just better to be plural, and constantly challenging DID systems that they may be endogenic.

Their ideology causes the same harm towards mentally ill and vulnerable people that other similar cults do. People deny themselves treatment and worsen their symptoms, either purposely or through that denial.

We used to be pro endo. We were surrounded by endogenic systems. The things we saw them say in private spaces are even worse than what they get away with in public. Alters with loose grasps on reality were told they can't be a real person because they're just a symptom, and that if they felt like they were a "real person", then they HAD to be a "endogenic headmate" or a "soulbond".

Anyway as you can probably guess, this led to a denial of trauma, a denial there was anything wrong with them, an increase in dissociation and I remember one of them insisted he was "actually tethered to the body, not inside it". Bizarrely enough it even led to a complete denial of the system in some instances. (???? boy was smoking that snoop dogg shit ig)

Obviously the consequences of all this to the system as a whole were not good even if I'm able to joke about it now.

It's almost as if I dislike endos because I've seen the ramifications of their belief system first hand or something. Weird.

And before someone goes "WELL YOU SHOULDN'T BE COMPARING IT TO A CULT ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU'RE INVALIDATING CULT SURVIVORS BY-" I'm a cult survivor. I was raised in a cult. The whole reason some alters were susceptible towards the endogenic thing was because they were already pre-programmed to be influenced by those things. Over the years all these experiences have led to us being good at recognising cult programming. Also shut up.

Actually actually- on a side note-note. I think a problem some people have with this is they can't comprehend that a cult can exist on the internet, but you just have to look around you. Q-Anon started on the internet. Anti-vaxx and Alex Jones were popularised by the internet. There's other lesser known cults that started on Facebook or internet forums. This isn't new.

And additionslly, another reason endos aren't seen as a cult is because they align themselves with the left and the LGBT+ community. Since we're misunderstood communities who are used to being invalidated, we don't like the idea of invalidating others. It's easy to convince a queer person that their MAGA-hat wearing drunken Q-Anon uncle is a member of a cult and obviously shouldn't be validated. It's a lot harder to convince them that their fellow queer or disabled person who is overall well-meaning towards people, could also fall victim to a cult and also shouldn't be validated.

But again if you look at how cults actually operate, this isn't new. They often latch onto already misunderstood communities because they're less scrutinised there. It's not even a conscious plan on their part, it's just "well these people also have beliefs and ideas that aren't accepted by normie society, so I'll hang out with them."

And finally for more examples of endos being culty you can look at my tag: endo cult, because I call things what they are.

#genuinely I don't usually like painting targets on ourselves like this #but it's very important to me you all begin to understand this is a cult #which is also one of the reasons I keep obliging questions like these #anti endo #syscourse #endo cult #also pls take note of the fact I gain literally nothing from talking about this #and the only thing I have ever got out of talking about this #is negative attention #or confused singlets asking questions because they have no idea wtf an endo even is #so don't try to present me as being in bad faith or ''just disliking someone'' #like please think realistically wtf would I be getting out of that #esp when most people disagree with me even if they are anti endo #but I've Experienced Things and Made Observations and this is my conclusion #pinning this now because it made a lot of people whine at me and invalidate my trauma <3 #ty for proving you did not read anything I actually said

[rotzaprachim]

soooo funny the way that the conservatives who used well WOMEN don’t get drafted take that WOMEN and the conservative us men who justified misogyny with while I’ll have to die in battle to protect the womenfolk - those people decided to spent the last 30 years unilaterally supporting the one state in the world that has a mandatory draft policy on girls and women and regularly puts teenage girls in the line of fire and by funny I mean very die/

#Obviously not the main reason to not support IL but it’s uh something #Esp brown teenage girls too. #Obvious the concept of a draft is inherently anti feminist because it’s the complete removal of bodily autonomy #No one esp no teenager should be forced to carry a fetus by their state and on the same line #No teenager should be forced to kill for their state #No teenager should be put into the position where they can die by their state

[ickypuppi3]

someone replied to that that post you rb'ed about "if you can forgive steve for his past actions, you can forgive jonathan" with "this is why i forgive steve, jonathan, and billy" and then OP starting going off on them about how billy is irredeemable compared to them so it's fucked up to like him and they are glad he died 💀 bro

reaching my limit with stranger things fans truly

#like i don’t have the energy anymore #always a byler at the scene of the crime #crazy innit #asks #fandom wank #doing all that while solely referring to lucas as ‘the black kid’ rather than .. you know .. his actual name #like it’s something i see antis do constantly #idk seems kinda insidious #esp when you’re using everyone else’s names #it’s giving using lucas as a gotcha #rather than actually caring about caleb or his character or actual racism #also #the double standards are crazy considering billy was the one who lived with his abusive bigoted father his whole life #vs steve who literally had no reason to act like he did except for being a shitty teenager #who got mad his girlfriend didn’t want him because she was sad her friend died #anyway #cw suicide ment #i guess

[robotpussy]

I think under capitalism everybody is selling and exploiting their bodies idk 🤷🏾‍♀️ as long as you're working you are exploiting your body

#just saw someone say smth anti sex worker and its like. nigga everybody who works a job esp a minimum wage one is 'selling their body' #like shut up