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companyissuedbicpen · 13 hours
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Absolutely AMAZING response by Watcher imo.
They acknowledged that they made a mistake, made the wider context more clear, and addressed basically all of the criticisms brought forward by the community as far as I know.
Anyone who already subscribed to the streaming service who no longer wants it gets a refund.
Patrons get a free subscription to the streaming service.
The service now only offers early, ad-free episodes that will still be released on YouTube.
They acknowledged the insensitivity of the original pitch and how the price is not something that everyone can afford.
THIS is how you respond to backlash, especially this widespread. Take time to collect your thoughts, take the criticism into account, and change your actions going forward.
Great job Watcher 👏
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montessori-grad · 12 hours
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Watchergate: 4/19-4/22
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morsmoon · 17 hours
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You know what? good for him
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nessa007 · 13 hours
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ryan, shane and steven 7 seconds into their update video
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samwwise · 13 hours
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you know shit went down when it’s three ex buzzfeed employees apologizing on a couch
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emxritus · 13 hours
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I think two statements with this whole thing can cexist;
They listened. Apologized. Were very accountable. Fixed the issue. Admitted to how insensitive and tone deaf what they said and did was. Etc.
And.
They are still rich. The comments and stuff they did were very insensitive, tone deaf, and outright cruel and not okay at all, and many people will never trust them again as they once did, many won't even ever watch again. Many people, while being able to accept the apology, will still want nothing to do with them after that, especially for us who genuinely are struggling in life with money. It was highly insulting and it makes you look at people differently after that.
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nitelines · 23 hours
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Was reading comments on instagram. And the stark difference between the comments under Steven’s and Shane and Ryan’s posts is crazy. The way people are putting ALL the blame on Steven and babying Ryan and Shane is mindblowing. They might not be the CEOs but they are cofounders of the company. Ain’t no way they didn’t have ANY say in the matter and it’s 100% Steven’s decision.
“Is Steven holding you guys hostage?” “We will support you if you(Ryan) and Shane go off and do something of your own” “this isn’t you” etc
At the end of the day Shane and Ryan are strangers to us, what we see and know about them is what they want us to see. Get a grip and realise that, thanks.
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suetrim · 12 hours
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They can put their clip back in the green
Remaking a meme I made this weekend after the Watcher apology
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morsmoon · 11 hours
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the ex buzzfeed employee to 3 sad looking guys on a grey couch pipeline is absolutely hysterical
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hanniballz-lecter · 12 hours
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*john mulaney voice* the youtubers listened to the fans and genuinely apologized?.... i didnt know they knew how to do that
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hxnnibxi · 12 hours
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im sorry people calling watchers response "too late" are incredibly wrong. they took two days. the original announcement was posted on friday and then they posted their response to backlash the following monday. that's a perfectly normal respone time. they took the weekend to gauge the opinion of the fans, reformed their plan and then posted an update admitting fault. im not saying i think their response was good or bad but it was definitely quick.
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celestialmar · 10 hours
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“So you forgive them, just like that?”
i’ve never felt that it was a matter of forgiveness, more of if you accept to continue watching the content and creators even if you disagreed strongly with a business move and they way they presented it. if you can move past it. forgiveness would be more personal, and imply a relationship.. which isn’t the case. i think shane and ryan are great content creators, and i find their content very entertaining, they’ve taken accountability and changed the issues i had with the streamer. why wouldn’t i come back?
“they’re still money hungry, they revealed their true colors!”
they’re a business, and they have 25 employees that rely on them. of course they’re looking for profit, and expand the business. that’s what businesses do
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blossomingrose · 18 hours
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Imagine reading these comments while eating gold leaf-
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noctqrnxl · 11 hours
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my thoughts on the watcher update:
i am happy with this apology.
i will not let my guard down
i GENUINELY hope they learn to manage their finances better in the future
if they read through the comments then i hope they saw the thousands of people talking about how ryan and shane's banter >>> high quality content
i hope they get a little less out of touch??? and understand their audience??? and do some research before taking such a big decision????
i definitely hope that they find a balance between the high-quality content they want to create, doing so within understandable budget restraints, and the content WE want (which is mostly banter/talking. i used to hate anything horror-related but i loved bfu supernatural because SHANE AND RYAN MADE IT LESS SCARY!! I HAVE MADE POSTS ABOUT THIS BEFORE AS WELL!!)
contrary to what most people were saying, i actually liked steven the most at some point. when i'd watch too many spirits episodes it was steven's chaos (and eventually him and ricky's banter) that i looked forward to. i liked dish granted as well! yes i love shane and ryan, honestly who doesn't atp, but i always had a soft spot for steven. (i haven't seen a single worth it ep btw. the most i've seen of steven has been on watcher.) that's why the backlash against him specifically has been... tough to see. i acknowledge what people are saying and i also agree with it, but still. ykwim.
they look WRECKED. either they are very good actors all of a sudden or this was a more terrible weekend for them than i thought. (not to mention the bullying and harassment a lot of fans have done.)
as a lot of people have been pointing out, isn't WatcherTV basically Patreon??? i haven't signed up for either because, well, i'm an international fan 🙊 but still, it feels weird to have both??? idk
i still think WatcherTV is a bad idea but hey, at least we will see the content on yt as well, right?
i hope one day we'll all joke about this. (i don't mean to say i want us to feel good about it, because i don't think we ever will. but still...)
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memes-wearhouse · 10 hours
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My favorite comment from the Watcher apology video.
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YouTube comments that amused me pt. 2
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