#dying at 39

[frevandrest]

Did SJ r-word Thérèse? And if so did he really love her? Or is it simply, one-sided. I have looked and found there to be "ah yes SJ was vvvv upset about getting taken away from her" but then, to me it also seems like he used her in a sense. Cuz he was like (based on your post) "oh a woman has a crush on me time to take her without consent" and she just went with it because of her feelings towards him, and I assume the slander of those times for r-word victims.

Tbh, I cannot find anything else if he like r-worded her. Do you have any other articles I could read about the whole thing? or is there just that one source you once linked in the post

The post was an excerpt from a fictional story by Guy Breton. It is not based on a historical source. Well, some things are true: SJ and Thérèse Gellé were godparents to a baby in December 1785, and it is likely that they were a teenage couple. But there are no indications of anything shady or non-consensual whatsoever.

I believe they loved each other as teenagers (and might have continued a relationship later?) SJ moved to Blérancourt when he was 9. Thérèse was 10. It was a small village, and it is likely that they knew each other since that age. It seems that they began a relationship as teenagers; in fact, some historians assume that this was why they were both picked by a local family to be godparents to their newborn. There are also indications that SJ wanted to marry Thérèse.

But! He was very young (not even 19), still in school, still without a job, and also not particularly wealthy. Thérèse's father didn't see SJ as a good option for his daughter, so while SJ was away in the boarding school, he married Thérèse to another man (on 25th July 1786).

A few weeks later, SJ returned from school and was shocked and devastated to learn of Thérèse's marriage. This is what reportedly prompted him to fight with his mother, and it ultimately ended up in SJ taking that silver and escaping to Paris.

There are also rumours about SJ continuing a relationship with Thérèse later, but no solid proof. However, what we know is that she left her husband on the 7th anniversary of their marriage (July 1793) and ran away to Paris. She rented a room in a hotel that was very close to where SJ lived. The village blamed SJ and even talked that he kidnapped her, which he denied in a letter to his friend. Therese proceeded to get a divorce, which became legal on 10 July 1794. And 18 days later, SJ was dead.

We don't know if there was indeed a relationship between them in Paris; historians generally negate it, because SJ denied to had kidnapped Thérèse in a letter. So, there is no proof that they continued a relationship at that point. There is a weird "story" about lovers meeting and having an argument/misunderstanding that SJ wrote in one of his notebooks (in fact, that was the last entry in the notebook found on him on Thermidor, so it was probably written close to it), but there is no proof of the identity of the lover in the story. (There is no proof that it's autobiographical at all, except that I can't imagine it being fiction.)

That being said, some (Thermidorized) people did try to use Thérèse leaving her husband against SJ. I know at least one author who insists that SJ kidnapped her and made her be with him, in the exchange of having her father and husband released from prison. But it's bullshit, because while it's true that her father and husband were later imprisoned as royalists, this was months after she left her husband and when the divorce was already decided. She left her husband while he was free. What IS true, though, is that her father and husband were (surprisingly?) released from prison in March/April 1794. Some historians argue that SJ was behind it, and that he ordered them to be released because Thérèse begged for their lives. However, this is not proven (except that they were released, and I think there are indicators or at least speculations that it was under SJ's orders. But that's not proven).

So tl;dr: We don't know much about Thérèse or her relationship with SJ, but what we know points out at a consensual relationship with no shady elements of that kind.

#ask #anonymous #frev #french revolution #saint-just #therese gelle #man i love talking about therese #we don't know much about her at all #so i am interested in any piece of info #her life was not easy #born illegitimate #getting dragged into frev mess between her royalist father and revolutionary (ex?) boyfriend #being shunned by the village it seems #for leaving her husband #fighting with her older sister for their father's inheritance #dying at 39

[fairydrowning]

"Before I die, I want to be somebody’s favorite hiding place, the place they can put everything they know they need to survive, every secret, every solitude, every nervous prayer, and be absolutely certain I will keep it safe. I will keep it safe."

– Andrea Gibson

#this reminds me of 39 Kdrama where one of their friend was dying and other two made sure to do everything with her and for her #dark academia #light academia #excerpts #fragments #poetry #romanticism #dark academism #light academism #words #classic literature #literature #literature quotes #dark academia quotes #spilled love #spilled ink

[brainworms-all-night-long]

We're only at the begining of this one way dream🎵

Sort of inspired by @tornado1992's post from a while back.

Figured these two needed some comfort in between, uh, all that torment they're going through recently. Tails had a nightmare and Sonic can't sleep, so he busted out the good ol' guitar to put a smile on his brother's grumpy face.

Happy Wednesday y'all :]

#sonic the hedgehog #wholesome sonic and tails wednesday #sonic sings tails a lullaby and no one is dying 💯 #and Im lulling you into a false sense of security before I strike with angst >:) #for now this is a specifically aimed attack at you Marie #i hope you suffer severe fluff induced injury /j #but uh. before I can work on the other thing I need to get some well deserved 10h of sleep #how good that I wont be awake to see all the torture you guys have prepared for the silly brothers in real time #its 7:39 and the birds are chirping #see ya guys later #brainworms sining out ✌️ #miles tails prower #tails the fox #sonic #sonic and tails #unbreakable bond #theyre brothers your honor #wsatw #mah art #me does arts #actually finished doodl

[kyouka-supremacy]

Do you think atsushi has a black and white viewpoint? Can you show examples of that?

I mean, I guess? Why does this ask sound like a literature textbook reading comprehension exercise afvjtcarcnkyvarvkufsgb

I don't think the issue with Atsushi is him having a black and white view as much as it is him being superficial and quick to judge; he has a very high consideration of Dazai because when he first met him he looked extraordinary and good to him, and nothing about Dazai Atsushi finds out is going to change the positive opinion he has of him. He first saw Akutagawa and Fitzgerald as ruthless evil people when he first met them, and that's everything they're ever going to be to him. The issue with Atsushi is that he won't change his mind easily; but I don't think that necessarily means he sticks to black and white views. He loves Kyouka despite he's seen the most ruthless side of her in more than one occasion. He understands where Lucy comes from. He admires Dazai despite knowing he's committed crimes in the past. He even came to forgive his abuser the orphanage director, to an extent. In Dead Apple, he says “a boy always uses the claws of a tiger in order to live”– that does sound like he contemplates there's no true good or evil, and you could hardly expect any less from the Bungou Stray Dogs protagonist.

#Chapter 39 is fucked up‚ but really it's nothing more than an expression of bsd's fucked up morals. #That being said‚ the fact that Atsushi forgave the orphanage director despite everything he had done to him once he died makes me think. #It makes me think if his opinion of Akutagawa will finally change after he saw him die in front of his eyes. #Maybe dying was really the only thing Akutagawa could do to redeem himself. #atsushi nakajima #bsd #bungou stray dogs #people asks me stuff

[commander-revan]

Horikoshi has gifted us with more Touya!

#He looks so pretty #Im dying #dabi #my hero academia #touya todoroki #league of villains #bnha volume 39 #mha vol 39 #Bnha #shoto todoroki

[thesamoanqueen]

Talk your shit from your closet Ro! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@jazzy-tzw

#im dying 😂😂😂 #this man is a menace #his face #roman reigns #the tribal chief #head of the table #wwe #wrestlemania 39 #elimination chamber

[tchotchkez]

the service is today and I am coping Normally (:

#didn't have my uncle dying suddenly and unexpectedly right after the birth of his first child on my family trauma bingo card #but here we are i guess #literally just cannot compute any emotions right now #my grandpa is a shell of the man i know right now and it's fucking devastating to see #having to bury his only son who was only 39 years old #while he's having to go through chemo again for his liver #life feels like a joke rn tbh

[neptunite-stars]

i need to. die < has a not new obsession thats been brought up again

#IM BEGGING YALL if u like greek myth and musicals PLEASE listen to epic the saga. the guy that made it is so creative and im fuckign dying #over here. he has 39/40 songs 'released' (clips / snippets of songs) and 8 of them actually are released. im going insane. i love this musi #al so muchhh #rambles

[polyg-lotte]

i hauve. covid. not going to do any productivity or 30 dop challenge posting rn i am Sick

#im. dying squirtle #im actually reasonably ok today #yesterday i had a fever of 39 degrees tho

[sherlock-is-ace]

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#i found only one good thing about being on death's door sick #between all the not eating and the throwing up when i do manage to eat something #i lost 2.5kg in like a week #like sure i am dying with 39° fever every day and my throat and sides hurt from puking #and i destroyed my face knee and wrist when i fainted and fell face first to the floor #but hey! at least i'm not gaining weight since i've had no energy to continue with my excersise lol #¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #i also have to keep working cause that's the one bad thing about working from home... if doesn't fucking matter if you're dying #you can still be misserable at your computer instead of on your bed :/ #angel talks #personal

[milo-is-rambling]

Just realized that I accidentally locked myself into a caring about my life contract (or at least not killing myself contract) bc now I have a pet bird that can live up to like 20 years

#can I see myself being 39 with a pet bird. yes. can I see myself not dying either on purpose or on accident…. no. #the idea of living that long makes me wanna throw up low key terrifying actually

[panvani]

It’s still really funny that Break is not even forty at the time of PH

#logxx #Technically he has no stated age but it's strongly implied that he's 39. #AND THEY TREAT HIM LIKE HE'S ONE MILLION YEARS OLD AND DYING #HE'S LITERALLY CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT HOW OLD HE IS #MORE THAN THE CHARACTERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN THEIR 70S

[hexados-on-a-string]

okay ik that they needed to do like character redemption on gus by making him go from "power >>>>>> friendship" to "okay actually friendship is power or something" and ik gus isnt a good person, however did they have to make nv episode 39 so brutal. christ alive that episode fucks me up every time i watch it.

#i rewatch episode 39 a lot and like #its one of my absolute favourite episodes #and it does a very good job of showing that gus has a heart #and how evil zenoheld is #and like idk is rlly good w like. gus' running theme of loyalty by showing how his bakugan are loyal to him too #and that he doesn't only care abt spectra (altho thats rlly obvs if u pay attention like at all throughout nv) #but good lord jesus christ having two of his bakugan die in front of him?? one of which he's had from the beginning of the season???? #VULCAN PROTECTING GUS DESPITE HIS ARMOUR BREAKING AND CRACKING????? #hexados taking a hit for vulcan even tho he wasnt even out on the field??? that especially fucks me up tbh #episode 39 also known as gus learning that other ppl are loyal to him as well but only finds out by them dying for him #AND DESPITE EVERYTHING BOTH HE AND VULCAN GOES THROUGH IN EPISODE 39 #THEY STILL REFUSE TO BE DEFEATED RIGHT AS THEY STARE DEATH IN THE FACE #i mean they dont die in the end but god bless we all thought they did #anyway im insane about gus grav and vulcan hghgjhdkfienf #time to go watch this fucking episode again

[greeksprings]

Fluffernutter is life. Fluffernutter is love.

#gs personal #I was dying during episode 39 #the plan that Nott and Jester come up with for Fluffernutter is just pure genius #and the whole bit when they were pitching it was amazing #I’m just…. really loving this arc and the mighty nein #it’s been really great

[neon-angels-system]

me, patiently explaining that 59 of my credits are trapped in externals and that a good 7 credits are just being processed: I am on track and doing fine

teacher/parent, seeing that I only have 14 credits in term 3:

#context: need 60 credits to pass n 80 to do well #and I only have 39 potential internal credits #with 9 of those currently being assessed + 6 that won't be assessed until later this term + 10* credits being processed #(*3 of those will be Not Achieved) #like..... it is literally impossible for me to have 20 credits right now!! #unless they start marking shit quicker! #I am not failing or dying I'm just taking external-heavy courses!! #(note: external assessments are end-of-year exams. internal assessments are in-class assessments)

[martha-dobie]

i cannot stand surprise twists that make one loser stronger than 5 people with powers 😭

#alex is running 39 fever and dying #we don't have time for that