#dreamsmp analysis

[schlattburity]

Okay this is a copy and paste from somewhere else so forgive me if it’s like, not the most coherent. I wrote it yesterday after the stream to get my thoughts out and I might write a more coherent/in depth version of the future but this thought has been in my mind for ages way before the lore stream. Just the lore stream felt like it completely canonized my thoughts on it in my humble onion.

I’ll also write my general thoughts on the finale later at some point I promie. (Edited: changed the formatting a bit :])

CW Wilbur Finale Spoilers

It’s All Projection

Everything Wilbur did was projection onto other people things he thought/feared about himself. Villainize the other to distant it from himself

“Don’t trust those american dogs”

Don’t trust me, I’m a liar

“I defeated Eret”

Please don’t notice my other failures as a leader and a person

“I put you in the role of President out of spite”

because I didn’t want to be President of something I would destroy

“I don’t want you to pity me”

I am pitiable

Every rivalry, every conflict, every moment he spent spiting at others it was always at himself

His apologies, his fighting for Tommy, Defending him, him admitting he was scared and sad, him admitting he’s a bloody fucking American

It was him being honest with himself for the first time and not deflecting

He’s the Traitorous, American Dog who was sad and scared and lonely and never truly meant to be a leader

And That’s how it ended, he couldn’t stay because he wasn’t the man to protect people. He never was

He wasn’t a leader or protector or anything of the sort.

He was just a Gas Station employee inspired by his adopted younger brother to build something new and beautiful.

#dsmp #c!wilbursoot #c!wilbur disscussion #wilbur lore #wilbur lore disscussion #dsmp analysis #dreamsmp analysis #c!wilbur analysis #wilbur analysis #thera posts

[draconixiaa]

dream's mask and symbolism

recently (or rather, some time ago, at this point) i saw a post on the symbolism over dreams mask but i felt awkward just putting my own opinions on a reblog so my spiel will appear here:

the purpose of a mask is to hide and/protect someone's face, whether it be about identity, physical image, or safety during a pandemic. thus, a person using a mask has something to protect: usually one of the three aforementioned concepts.

the mask: whole

cdream, his skin, obviously does not have a mask, but the characterization of him having a mask originates from cc!dream's facelessness. the popularity of that concept made it so that it is popularly accepted that cdream dons a mask wherever he goes, and the fact that his skin does not change much throughout the majority of the server also helps in the wide acceptance of this theme.

therefore, we establish that cdream wears a mask throughout the majority of the dsmp, up to ctommy unmasking dream during his disc confrontation and cquackity doing the same in prison, and then also after the prison arc until the very final lore stream.

physical image

cdream hiding his face means that he has something to hide & protect, and in literal terms, this would be his physical image. when someone wears a full face mask, no one would be able to know what they truly look like, and this gives them an element of mysteriousness, and in cdream's case with the simplicity of his mask, allows him to be even more terrifying. this also leads to my second point: by hiding his physical image, no one would be able to see how his appearance changes over the course of the storyline.

characterization

cdream's character changes drastically throughout the storyline of not just the disc saga but also with l'manburg/manburg/pogtopia/etc and the prison arc. he begins with pure intentions, ends with the same intentions, but all throughout, his method of reaching his ultimate goal changes: from manipulation, to war, destruction, and self-sacrifice, etc, etc. he becomes more and more desperate, more and more willing to do whatever he can to achieve his goal. he also initially refutes that he is a villain, but then changes to embrace that role more and more.

meanwhile, cdream is wearing a mask. his physical appearance does not change much; people are able to keep on easily believing that cdream is a powerful and ruthless character without much emotions. oh right, masks also hides someone's faces. literally and figuratively, as he further embraces his role as a villain, cdream dons a physical mask and a verbal one to distance himself from the server to be seen as such an evil character.

this image of a powerful and evil character is what the masks does for cdream. he (or this image of him) is everlasting, almost like a higher being, and a malicious one at that.

characterization II

but, in all truth, cdream is very vulnerable. for as much as he claims that he has destroyed his attachments, these very feelings of protection and homeliness are what drives him to do what he says and does, especially as revealed during the dsmp finale. he changes so much behind that mask.

the mask: destroyed

as mentioned above, this occurs arguably on two occasions: the disc confrontation or also in prison. both have similar but also different implications.

disc confrontation

it is at this finale that ctommy gets his moment; he shines by breaking away cdream's protective shell and getting his rightful vengeance by killing him twice before sending him to prison. he pressures cdream with the presence of the server to take off all of his armor, and proceeds to kill him. for some fans, the armor represents cdream's mask-- particularly the helmet-- since he is always seen with his armor on in the server. as is with almost every other pvp-oriented person on the server, but ive digressed. taking off the armor is part of taking off that which is hiding what is inside cdream: his physical body, and his well-being. perhaps in the scene where he is compelled to throw his armor into the hole is part of him letting go of his image of a tyrant, but personally, i'd disagree, since the disc confrontation was all planned and organized by cdream; the armor, perhaps, is just the first layer.

the confrontation was all supposed to be under control-- his control. the armor and hole scene, cdream probably would've predicted; he went along with ctommys commands without much resistance, and honestly, this moment is just as symbolic to ctommy as cdream. just as cdream is pretending to let go of his image, or his powerful image is forcefully shoved off of him: ctommy is doing to cdream what he did to ctommy. this is the retribution of the golden rule: treat others how you'd want them to treat you. just as how cdream stripped ctommy bare of all his friends and protection in exile, thus also ctommy to cdream of his items and the power that he held from having them, including both the advantage in pvp and his frightening image. dream probably knew this was going to happen, since thats what you do when you want to kill someone. but, after the armor and the hole scene, ctommy kills cdream-- once, which was alright, fine, he also knew this was going to happen, and then twice. by the time he came back after his first death, cdream was screaming for mercy.

the cdream deaths are also widely interpreted as him losing his mask. or at the very least, it cracks. maybe ctommy was merciful enough to leave the last bit on, or maybe it was all shaken off as cdream begged and pleaded to be let to live-- and then the reveal of the revive book in his hands. but before that, when cdream was being killed: this is the physical shaking off of his very precious lives, the two extra chances he has at living, something preciously irreplaceable. thus, cdream realizes that the situation is spiraling out of control. he has to time this very well, between satisfying ctommy's anger and the reveal of the revive book, as well as his life. this is a gamble on his life. at that moment, cdream is showing his own true desperation, freed from his mask out of fear of death, freed from his mask by ctommy (the very person he sought to control, and the very person seeking to destroy him). look at the irony!

prison & cquackity

perhaps the mask also represents the control the cdream believes that he has over his surroundings. in the prison, cdream is either maskless (going with the above scenario), or half-masked (for cquackity to finish destroying).

either way, cdream's maskless-ness represents how he has no protection, no outer image, nil, none. this protection manifests itself in cdreams mind as the perceived control he has over situations because of the image he believes he has created for himself, because with this villainy, he can control the movements and actions of others. in the prison, though, when he is fully unmasked, he is all open for his visitors to see and tear open and look for themselves: who cdream truly is. maybe this is a good thing, that people will be able to see his true self-- not a villain, but a man with hopes and dreams. thus, when cquackity comes around, what he does is tear cdream, already unmasked, further apart. there is no more armor to protect him, and inside the prison, all thats left of cdream is his real body, and his real mind. and by real i mean unmasked, and not faked.

i like the other interpretation better though: that cdream goes into the prison half-masked. he still has a semblance of control, because he has punz, and technoblade, right? he planned for himself to go to prison... but what he didn't plan for was cquackity's deal with the warden. this is when he loses the rest of his mask, because this is when he loses complete control over not just the situation, but what happens to his own body, and he also can no longer influence other people, because he has no more power. he's being starved, tortured, and confined in a box with no escape nor contact with anything outside the prison; when cquackity comes, csam shuts down the ability for anyone else other than cquackity to visit cdream. so this, the point when he loses the rest of his physical mask is the same as the point when loses the rest of anything, any thing else that he could possibly have control over.

the mask: re-made

after prison, what does cdream do?

cdream gets his armor again, and he puts his mask back on. this mask physically and symbolically hides the effects of the prison on his being: the scars of both the body and the mind. he goes back to being powerful, being a big bad end-game boss, hiding in his mighty prison of which no longer traps him but is his safe place (a whole analysis post on the prison can be made holy) but also to others, the evil villain's lair... cdream resumes his status quo from before the prison. but, he is Not Alright underneath the mask-- but who can tell? who would want to tell, and try to see underneath the mask?

because on the server, there aren't many people who are willing to uncover the mask that cdream has laid over himself, the act that he puts on to be a villain in order to achieve his goals. part of the reason why cdream's 'mask' never gets 'taken off' is because no one cares enough about the true him-- and funnily enough, the only four/five people on the server are: cpunz, ctechnoblade, ctommy, and cquackity. and chbomb lmao. but thats besides the point: half of the people care about his "true self" because they are friends and close allies, while the other half want to reveal it to be able to hurt and destroy him. everyone else only think too shallowly about him: to them, cdream is an evil character harboring evil intentions, and thus the reasons behind said intentions are also similarly evil-- because they need a face to despise.

but its important to note that it isnt just cdream aiming to make himself a villain; it is everyone else as much as he. it's like a negative feedback loop, and i also want to point out that it was all started by cwilbur, who was the first to antagonize cdream as a major villain.

so, both during and after the prison, this feedback loop is why the villainous image of cdream persists. during the disc confrontation, all that happened was that the people were shown that cdream is not strong but weak. yet, just because he's now weak and defeated doesn't mean that the shadow of his villainy won't haunt him or the other uninvolved server members.

the mask: the end

at the very last stream, what is known as the dsmp finale between cdream and ctommy: something shifts. at the very end of the stream, after they argue and argue and argue, trying to get the moral upper hand, tommy trying to gain sympathy, displaying to the world all their differences and oppositions as if they can never, ever agree... ctommy gets killed in the heat of the argument. he gets revived. and he undergoes a revelation.

here, ctommy is very crucial to the moment because he gets dream to take off his helmet, which, in that moment, likely represents cdream's mask. because it is only after that moment that cdream starts talking about the real reasons why he's doing stuff, that he wants everyone to be a happy family, just like how he did privately to punz on the night after the butcher army. here, cdream starts being genuine; he asks: "is it not too late?" to his greatest nemesis.

here, the mask represents all the false narratives that he put forth, and perhaps all the sins that came along with them, and it reveals him: he who did evil for the sake of good, he who sold his soul for the world, he who told his friends, showed his friends, that he is evil-- for the sake of all of his friends and their friendship. it reveals him, as a man, his true face and physical appearance, taking off a bit of the armor that protects him.

this moment where cdream takes off his mask and starts asking if its possible for change is a culmination of cdream and ctommy's character: mutual understanding and hope.

the mask is like a wall that prevents cdream from seeing eye-to-eye with anyone, from reaching mutual understanding from anyone (except for cpunz ig, who supports him no matter how evil he is). by getting cdream to taking off the mask, he gets cdream to reveal the truth, but also understand that there is hope for the future. a better future.

(we dont talk about the nuke)

cdream personally taking off his mask during this time also directly contrasts with how ctommy and cquackity forcibly takes it off of him. there, they are removing the illusion of control cdream has-- to the people of dsmp, and then to cdream himself; yet, despite having everything taken away from him, he still holds close to his heart his ultimate goals. but, at the nuke finale, it is cdream deciding to reveal his thoughts and feelings himself, and this is crucial to his character's growth. even with all his armor on and cpunz is with him, he takes off his mask, his emotional barrier of sorts, to be able to tell the truth: his truth.

Conclusion

cdream's mask has been crucial to his characterization throughout the different arcs and storylines. while in physical depictions, it is an object that hides and protects one's physical appearance, it also affects the image of his character by providing an element of mystery and notoriety.

through the disc confrontation with ctommy and the torture cdream experienced by the hands of cquackity and csam, we can see them forcibly remove cdream's mask and do away with whatever semblance of power and control cdream has-- both over the people of the server, as well as cdream himself.

when cdream returns from the prison, it's as if nothing had changed; this is because of how established his image already is, and this emphasizes his loneliness (with the exception of cpunz) and continues to cast shadows on the rest of the smp.

finally, in the dsmp nuke finale, cdream ultimately decides to take of his mask on his own and reveals his intentions, displaying strong character development and hope.

tldr: the mask protects cdream, assists in his spiral to evil, and is also a tool used to represent changes in his characterization and his situation.

#cdream #cdream analysis #drac thinks #this is 2500 words wtf #dreamwastaken #writing #dsmp #dreamsmp #this is kinda my first time writing a full length analysis essay on something not school help #oh well hope it makes sense

[bleue-flora]

All of these hot takes are really making me feel left out lol. So um hot take:

c!Dream is autistic and the consequential misunderstanding and miscommunication is a root of all the problems and conflicts.

(Note: I say this as someone who is autistic and after being diagnosed at the age of 20, discovered that at the heart of 90% of my conflicts, now and in the past, is a failure in communication from being misjudged and misunderstood.)

#pardon if my wording here is poor I am as always happy to go into it further :) …. but like I figured I’d keep it short? #I don’t know I am interested if anyone else sees this or if I’m just projecting lol :) #c!dream #dsmp #dreblr #dream smp #dsmp theory #dsmp analysis #did someone order an essay? #cuz look I’m ready to write one… challenge me I dare you lol XD <3 <3 #dreamsmp #dream smp dream #dsmp dream #hot take #cdream #I don’t know does that count as a hot take?….. #autistic characters #autistic headcanon #autistic c!dream #this is fine

[lilyminer]

Thinking about how all throughout his time housing c!Tommy in the second half of his exile c!Techno was routinely running into c!Dream, but hiding Tommy from him. Techno kept secrets from one of the only people who was usually on his side, not working with him nearly at all. But it was worth it to Techno cuz in his eyes him and Tommy were finally on the same side against a common enemy(Tubbo)!

But then after a single, quick reunion, Tommy turned his back on him, stood with Tubbo again against everything Techno knew about Tommy’s experiences (not much, but that ain’t his fault). And once again Techno was the feared enemy surrounded by people who hated him, even the kid he had given so much to protect.

While I’m sure the story would’ve been different if Techno knew the full extent of Tommy’s exile, it makes perfect sense to me that Techno would go back to Dream. He had already gone through the execution, seen the effects of Wilbur’s death, lived through Manburg, L’manburgs influence still plagued his life and threatened his security. He was retreating back to those he could trust and knew would look out for him, not look at him like a monster or a weapon.

Sorry guys I know it’s been a long time since I brought up this morality debate but I still think man’s was so valid.

#I recognize I’m probably misremembering a lot of this #and possibly mischaracterizing cuz of my crazy headcanon matrix #but whatever I wanna talk about c!techno again nature is healing #dsmp #dreamsmp #dream smp #mcyt technoblade #dsmp technoblade #mcyt techno #dsmp techno #c!techno #c!technoblade #c!technoblade apologist #c!techno character analysis #technoblade #technoblade character analysis #character analysis

[nocinovae]

I have many feelings on the situation around abuse and power dynamics and assault that are coming to light at the moment. For the most part I feel that other peoples rage and statements are worded better. Though I had some thoughts and as someone who enjoyed psychoanalyzing fictional characters I have some realizations about c!Wilbur that I think some people will appreciate. Other than that Support and Listen to Victim. Don’t Put Streamers on Pedestals.

I hate how much I and so many people loved c!Wilbur for being a morally flawed traumatized mentally ill character.

The type of villain to enjoy in media but in a “I like them as a bad person. They fill the role they were written for very well.”

We took them as a “this is a bad person to enjoy through media” character. He showed the experience of how trauma and mental illness can effect relationship and morals.

I felt like I could take him as a caricature, an exaggerated form of many of my own insecurities and dark parts of myself.

BUT NO All c!Wilbur was was a self insert character of the writer’s desire for control and power over the people around him. Same with any of his other “characters” that we all thought were meant to be satire dark comedy of disgusting men in the world.

And he let us all believe this. It’s ironic the way he literally had his self insert pity oc kill himself after not having his apology accepted for all the harm he caused. How he was so distraught with having to actually work for redeeming himself more than just his words that his actions that he thought would resolved that was killing himself for a second time.

All the nuance and grey area I loved saw in c!Wilbur has been destroyed with the truth we all now see in William Gold. And that goes for so all of his artwork.

At least with this new lense on the artist we can take another view of his art and see deeper into the truth of What a Disgusting Piece of Shit this man is.

#suicide mention #tw suicide ment #believe victims #support victims #wilbur soot is an abuser #Wilbur soot #dsmp #dreamsmp #c!wilbur #William gold #dsmp media literacy #dsmp character analysis #media literacy #I’m sorry if I word any of this weird or rambly #I am mentally disabled and have brain fog so if there’s anything worded bad or insensitively I apologize #I do enjoy that there are people who have decided to OCify c! & q!Wilbur #just maybe be more critical of what parts you keep based on the new information on the writer’s character and probable intention #semi vent #I am angry

[lucemferto]

The more I'm hearing about the current state of the Dream SMP, the more I just come to realize that one of the big problem the creators are facing - aside from lacking communication, which is by FAR the biggest problem - is just a general lack of vision, cohesion and structure.

Throughout the entirety of the Dream SMP it seems like they never managed to nail down what they wanted to be. A big dramatic, structured series a la Game of Thrones? A collection of individual storylines that sometimes come together for big events a la the MCU? Just some silly Minecraft RP fun with no strings attached?

Dream SMP seemed to be every single one of these at any given time without ever committing to any thing. And you can have these things run parallel in a server, but that still requires a lot of communication and coordination behind the scenes in order to give each preferred "mode" of the SMP room to breathe and develop.

And they apparently just ... never did that. Ever since Wilbur's departure after November 16th, the SMP has just noticeably floundered with finding out its identity.

They floundered with the seasonal structure. Some ccs implied there was one, some were working alongside this seasonal structure and some just seemed completely detached from it.

And this non-committal approach to the SMP led to the big, planned-out storylines dragging, with long lore-draughts because there was no season in a production sense (or writing sense, evidently). They didn't sit down and said: "Here's Season 3, we're doing x, y and z until August."

They just kinda let it drift and stall - which in turn let to a draught in relaxed, casual streams as well, because you don't want to step on any big lore plans and some people aren't even streaming outside of big lore events.

And it led to small creators, which were seemingly added to revitalize the "brand" if you will, to also just left directionless, floundering and ultimately leaving as quickly as they came.

Because there is no "Big Lore" and there's no "Casual Lore" so what's even the point of sticking around if the SMP can't even make up its mind on what it wants from you, the creator.

#dream smp #cc critical #dream smp analysis #dsmp analysis #dsmp #dsmpblr #dreamsmp

[casawio]

c!crimeboys (forever, in every life) night in the woods / everything everywhere all at once / junepours / lang leav / nikita gill / unknown / wilbur's stream, 11/4/22 (clip) (clip)

#webweave #dsmp webweave #dreamsmp webweave #dsmp analysis #crimeboys analysis #crimeboys #cwilbur #ctommy #cwilbur analysis #ctommy analysis #casart

[transbeeduo]

Y’know the fact that it’s the anniversary of C!Tommy’s revival got me thinking, why was his limbo like that. (The original one not the one where he was forced to watch DNF clips that’s just hell I think)

I mean like, everyone else’s limbo seems to be reflecting at least some aspect of their life, with Wilbur’s being a train station and Ranboo’s being an isolated island in the middle of the ocean. But Tommy’s was just a void. A empty nothingness. Which honestly seems scarier than any of the other limbos, due to it being just a depravation of ANY senses. What did he do to deserve a limbo like that?? It seems more like a punishment than any of the other limbos, besides maybe Ranboo’s. Was it just like reflecting how he felt as he was dying?? Alone and isolated and empty?? The fact that Wilbur was also there makes me wonder if Tommy somehow went to Wilbur’s limbo, and just wasn’t able to register it the same, due to the train station not being relevant to HIM, only to Wilbur. There’s definite proof limbo’s r connected, with Glatt’s gym and Mexican Dream visiting Ranboo in limbo. So it’s not too farfetched to think two people could be sent to the same limbo. Maybe limbo changed based on whoever’s perceiving it?

#i might be forgetting stuff i have very bad memory #i am just thinking about him today #c!tommy #tommyinnit #dsmp #dreamsmp #dream smp #dsmp analysis #dsmpblr #mcyt #mcytblr #crunch’s bites

[bsders]

DreamXD is a Dreamon

/dsmp /rp /c!

blahblah blah dreamons its old who cares blaj blahHHEAR ME OUT

dreamon ritual

the first time we see dreamXD is during the dreamon lore era

tubbo says dream was a transmuted dreamon which means he swaps between the two entities when triggered

dreamxd shows up after tubbo and fundy "free dream" from the dreamon and starts punching tubbo and seconds later both tubbo and fundy log off

2. times he shows up after this ritual

the next time we see dreamXD is when techno and phil find the stronghold and the end portal dreamXD logs on and destroys it and rebuilds it wrong

the third time is when he helps george and bad build a mcdonalds (💀) this is surprisingly where u see how twisted dreamXD is, when george and quackity get into an argument dreamXD claims that he is going to help george spawn trap quackity with obsidian and lava but ends up betraying george, upon seeing how upset george got abt it he immediately says that he did it to trick quackity and even tried to kill badboyhalo to comfort george (it works 😭??????)

we see how dreamXD has no issue in swapping sides just for his own entertainment and how death is his main entertainment

the forth time we see dreamXD is when bad is leading george and niki to the egg (also anyone else thinks the egg is a dreamon) and dreamXD logs on, after killing bad (poor bad lmao) he hangs out with george and he starts acting strange and revealing important things

his voice switches into a more demonic voice to an echo-y voice to finally a normal no sound effect voice

the change to the demonic voice seem to happen when he is upset example: when george asks him for stuff because he views it as george using him (tbf he is)

the change to the echo-y voice probably happens when he is upset? possessive? angry? example: george saying he would rather be with bad than with him, dreamXD starts chasing george claiming he is not going to hurt him

and then lastly the normal voice, its dream calling out to george "george its me dream!" but dreamXD brushes it off immediately saying "hm he is gone"

which is interesting cause later he says that he isnt dream but he is a part of him and he also says that he was hunted (tbf this line holds the whole theory together)

they try to prank bad and niki but it didnt go as george planned, even sending niki to hell and bringing her back

maybe its because dreamXD does not understand the concept of jokes so he shares his entertainment and what makes him laugh with george not realizing its not normal

3. the books arefor dreamXD´s entertainment

dreamXD is the creator of both the revival book and the death book

we know that if u revive someone thats not dead or if u kill someone that doesnt exist it summons dreamXD

the first time we see this happen is in the prison, when dream and techno try to revive someone thats not dead, he shows up and its the first time dream sees dreamXD

techno asks "how come god looks exactly like you?" (really nice quote)

dreamXD gives techno a bell and leaves.

the second time we see this is when sapnap kills someone who doesnt exist and he is summoned, dreamXD says its interesting and that he didnt expect sapnap to get the book

"listen up this is a ME thing not a YOU thing okay? IM in charge"

"you cant kill the owner of the revival book, you just cant!" "what is this like some game to you?" "actually it is a game! i watched death note i thought it was good and i thought yeah it will be fun!"

dreamXD wants dream alive, even as a ghost, maybe cause if one of them dies they both die ?

dreamXD would prefer if dream and sapnap were partners, he wants infinite deaths "you kill he revives you kill he revives YOU KILL HE REVIVES OOOOHHH ITS SO PERFECT!"

dreamXD is also connected to dreams (haha) he sees peoples dreams and gives people nightmares maybe fundys lore is also tied in here who knows

maybe thats why they are halled dreamons

dreamXD also rules the end so like maybe there is a connection there???

idk but i find it really interesting

#dreamxd #cdream #c!dream #dsmp lore #dsmp #dreamsmp #dreamon #analysis #theory #dreblr

[anakirui]

can we talk about how sad c!tommys relationship with c!skeppy is

c!tommy literally idolizes that man way too much he is so bad. like why did you say c!skeppy was ur best friend when u were on probation when all he’s done before that is threaten to kill you, push you into starting a war, tell you your best friend will leave you, and admit to c!dream that he wants complete power over you and the server. in fact, skeppys first fucking action on the entire server was griefing tommys house and stealing one of his discs to burn it in front of his face, an action NOBODY else has fucking done. (and yes he gave him a dono after doing that, but the fact is that being their first interaction is not a good basis for a friendship of any sorts.)

it gets even worse when c!skeppy ends up killing friend, like c!tommy is mad for a few seconds only to go and use “skep verb” right after and act like he doesnt care. then c!skeppy literally ends up stealing multiple stacks of diamonds from him and an entire set of netherite without his permission, and c!tommy gets offended when everyone around him insinuates that c!skeppys actions werent right, insisting that c!skeppy isn’t a “wrongun.” every time c!skeppy has ever made him mad, he just brushes it off as if it isn’t important, as if it doesn’t truly hurt him in the same way that it would if anyone else did.

and yet he has no idea how ecstatic c!skeppy was when c!bad suggested blowing up c!tommys hotel, he has no idea how much c!skeppy giggled when he and c!bad realized they could manipulate him, he has no idea how c!skeppy gossiped behind c!tommys back with c!dream for being an “annoying child”, he has no idea that the person he looks up to so much loathes him and expects the absolute worst from him

and yet he hates c!bad. c!bad, who has done the same or maybe even less torment gets hated as he should, but not c!skeppy. he SHOULD hate c!skeppy, but he won’t, still insisting that they’re friends even when c!skeppy himself says that they aren’t at all. even when c!skeppy tells him to his face that he’s a bad friend.

... i wonder if c!tommy wants some sort of acknowledgement from c!skeppy, and that’s why he chooses to stick in denial. maybe it’s because of that one time c!skeppy did praise him for his pvp on c!quackitys first day on the server. i don’t know too much about c!tommy outside of general knowledge, so if anyone wants to add onto this and maybe explain why c!tommy is so attached to this concept of c!skeppy being a close friend to him, please do so

#c!tommy #c!tommyinnit #c!skeppy #dreamsmp #dsmp #dsmp analysis #tw toxic relationship #tw manipulation ?

[nexcemo]

Okey I've been thinking of some things they said after the Final Sam Bucket lore stream but there is one that I AM GOING MAD FOR IT. After the stream, Sam and Bad said some thing that was imporntant leak things and left me with a lot theories. But they also said that during the lore stream there was a cameo from someone else that would be important in the future. I've been loking all the stream again and I can't find anyone else 😭

I thought it may be foolish or skeppy though bc both have a really difficult and strong relationship with the egg. Anyone have any ideas?

#the egg #dream smp theory #dsmp lore #dreamsmp #eggpire #bbh #sam bucket #dsmp foolish #dream smp analysis

[nebitri]

Hey guys. I don’t know how more clearly to say this, but the DreamSMP is not over. And those that are treating miscommunication, lack of interest, cc burnout and dips in lore like it’s the end of all things are used to receiving their content through Netflix productions and feature films. IT TAKES MONTHS AND SOMETIMES YEARS TO MAKE A TV SHOW. Yet you receive a new ep every week because that’s how things get released. This is Minecraft roleplay. Things get jumbled. Things get rescheduled. Streamers get busy because look! They are doing what they LOVE! Creating the content that they love and we know about it because we love their silly Minecraft roleplay! They know. The ccs know we love the DSMP and it will come back. So sit on your hands and hang out with your friends while you wait.

#dsmp #dream smp #dsmp lore #Twitter is uncontrollable rn #it’s embarrassing #analysis #dreamsmp

[azurecake16]

C!Dream is my evil blorbo. He’s very menacing and I love him for that

#not a dream apologist tho #like c!Dream could die #and I would laugh #azures ramblings #dreamsmp #dsmp analysis #kinda #dream #dsmp

[cardcatcardboard]

Frozen Heart reminds me of c!Techno

Yes, the song from Frozen (Underrated BANGER I tell you go listen to it)

I've been addicted to the movie recently for some reason, so obviously I have to combine it with my current interest, and I was listening to Frozen Heart while watching a Techno-related thing and then boom they combined.

Anyways, onto why I think this

"Born of cold and winter air" Makes me think of the Antarctic Empire and Commune and how c!Techno has lived in a cold area often

"This icy force both foul and fair" c!Techno can be seen as cold and unkind at first, but at the same time he's a very fair character. He has his ideals and he sticks to them.

"Strike for love (and strike for fear)" We'll seen it a couple times before that c!Techno would lay his life down for certain people. Like on January 5th, he was willing to fight a 1 v 20 just for c!Tommy. He would fight armies for c!Phil and we all know it. He will strike anybody down for those he loves and cares for. "Those that have treated me with kindness, and I will repay that kindness tenfold."

"Beautiful! Powerful! Dangerous! Cold!" Idk about you guys but c!Techno has one of the prettiest character designs of the DSMP. Like that man is gorgeous. And I know I'm comparing this to c!Techno but in almost any fanfic I've read where Techno fights, he's always described and dancing or doing it like art. Speaking of fighting, c!Techno is a strong, powerful character, not to be trifled with. You will lose a battle with him, don't test it. He is also very dangerous, you never know what his next move is. "And those that treat me with injustice [...] I shall repay that injustice 1000 times over"

"Stronger than one! Stronger than ten! Stronger than a hundred men!" c!Techno could take down armies single-handedly. We've heard about it in lore, he's won wars, he's strong asf and we know it. He could take a hundred men, Technoblade Never Dies.

I am word vomiting because this is seriously one of my favorite songs in the ever Frozen soundtrack people don't talk about it enough, and when I got this idea I needed to write it down. I tried to word stuff the best I could with the lines in the song, sorry if it's confusing lol.

Technoblade pog

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[hadesbullshit]

ok so c!Wilbur in all his resent lore streams Wilbur been putting a block down and standing on it to make himself taller. i have two theory's as to why

he doesn't feel like hes in crontoll anymore. even his own life and death is out of his controll. Wilbur killed him self. he ended itl. that was his final hurrah. and then dream brought him back. and yes Wilbur worships dream like a hero, dream also took away Wilbur's choice. in the end he chose to die no matter how horrible limbo was. he didn't chose to come back.

so he stands on the blocks above people to make himself feel important. he only value as a human being was the tital as presentment or revolutionary so he feels like eh need to be fiscally above people to be listened to and respected

/dsmp /rp

#or hes just short #c!wilbur analysis #dsmp #wilbur soot #c!wilbur #dream smp #dreamsmp #c!wilbur apologist #c!wilbur critical #wilbur lore

[gameriggy]

DREAM SMP SPOILERS

I’m gonna remind y’all that at the final disc war confrontation: C!Dream learned that C!Tommy wouldn’t sacrifice people for the discs. That he valued C!Tubbo more.

He learned that he was wrong about their importance.

I even talked about the disc’s symbolism and value here ( https://gameriggy.tumblr.com/post/669867446467002368/so-on-the-subject-of-the-discs-and-their )

And there’s one point from that post I think could be important here. From my point of view:

“So I have a strong feeling that if a similar situation arose, where they needed a bargaining chip against Dream, Tommy wouldn’t waste his breath on using the discs again. Dream wouldn’t want them. He’d want Tommy.”

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