#dsmp theory

[idkwatthehec]

Yall I just realized something.

So you all know about how Eret’s planned ending was the reveal that the Dsmp was actually like a weird sort of time loop thing and that’s why Karl’s Tales were always so similar.

Do you guys remember the underwater city. Where all the main people of the smp had a room. Everyone except one person.

Wilbur didn’t have a room.

Wilbur left the smp before the nuke.

WILBUR LEFT. BEFORE THE CYCLE WAS RENEWED.

THAT MEANS HES NO LONGER A PART OF THE CYCLE.

And that’s why he never ever appeared in a Tales. Not once.

#wilbur soot #dsmp #dream smp #fuck #c!wilbur #goo goobie #dsmp fanfic #dsmp theory #dsmp lore #dsmp wilbur #tales from the smp #karl jacobs #eret

[bc-jpeg]

so uh- I didn't see if this theory already exists in the fandom, or no one really touched on it, but after a long time in both fandoms, one funny pattern is noticeable. I’m so obsessed with watchers lore so much, which is why I started to go beyond only one universe, and this gave the result. so the theory is that dreamxd is a watcher. after digging into the dsmp lore, I found several points that may indicate this. dxd’s nature may differ from the canonical nature of the watchers that we see in evo smp and in the life-seasons in martyn’s lore, but we also already have a watcher!grian, whose watcher's nature also differs in its own way from that very canon, he has his own lore, so this will also work here.

now this will be only my personal version of watcher!dxd lore, there may still be holes in it, but this is only as a possible base:

presumably dreamxd is an ex-manhunt!dream, who could not get out of the world and stuck in the spectator mode of the game, becoming a watcher. in the initial attempts to escape from such a fate and get out (I don't think dream would just accept such a fate), he was crippled either by other watchers or by himself, having lost his "eye". this explains the basic visual interpretation of the dxd, where the place where the eyes should have been is now a familiar cross pattern.

isolating himself from other watchers, dxd created a time loop from the existing world, from which he initially could not get out, closing access to the end dimension for players, preventing both the players themselves from escaping, and the possibility of capturing these players to other watchers for their own time loops. the world with the manhunt seed was restarted, defaulting almost everything to zero, which eventually became the dsmp server. all interactions between players and server events began to give dxd so much energy and power that eventually the essence of the watcher completely absorbed him, dxd himself began to provoke events, interact directly with players, and all for the sake of energy, emotions, deaths that made him only stronger. dsmp became an excellent loop-feeder for him only, in which he completely lost his original humanity, becoming a monster, creating only chaos.

one of the risky but effective dxd’s moves of was giving the revival book and the book of death to players inside the time loop, which in a peculiar way gave them access to part of dxd’s powers. he realized how unpredictable players can be in their decisions and actions, which gave a ton of events possibilities. he wouldn't have to provoke events himself, when players can do everything for him, giving the same amount of energy.

so in the final of the dsmp, after that nuclear explosion, dxd simply restarted the entire time loop, as it was shown. the players don't remember anything that happened, they don't remember each other, the whole world was defaulted to zero, where they started all over again.

it’s also interesting that the concepts of limbo and dreams/illusions exist both in the dsmp lore and in watchers lore in life-seasons. limbo is the space where players end up with the loss of all their canonical lives, and there is no return from there, only at the whim of mystical powers (dsmp — the revival book, as part of the dxd’s powers, life-seasons — the watchers, more specifically watcher!grian).

both concepts somehow intersect with each other:

> in the dsmp, they intersected in the c!george’s lore, he had partial access to limbo through his own dreams, where dxd himself was also often present. someone also had the opportunity to watch server events from limbo.

> in life-seasons, according to cc!martyn, limbo is the space where all players get to after the final death and are there between seasons in a state of sleep, in which they see their own smps/universes.

again, this is just a possible version of how exactly this theory/head-cannon can work, there are a lot of things that I could not explain yet, because there is too much information from different dsmp povs. some things I remember, some not at all, but I left a hint of their possible intersection visually in the diagram. the theory of the smps-multiverse is here simply by default, all the other main points are indicated in this diagram. all of this will be easily editable at any future time, my job is just to throw in the base for this theory :D

#mcyt #mcyt fandom #trafficblr #dsmpblr #dsmp #dream smp #dsmp theory #traffic life smp #life series #traffic life series theory #life series theory #the watchers #dream xd #watcher grian #evo smp #the watchers lore #eyesandears

[bleue-flora]

All of these hot takes are really making me feel left out lol. So um hot take:

c!Dream is autistic and the consequential misunderstanding and miscommunication is a root of all the problems and conflicts.

(Note: I say this as someone who is autistic and after being diagnosed at the age of 20, discovered that at the heart of 90% of my conflicts, now and in the past, is a failure in communication from being misjudged and misunderstood.)

#pardon if my wording here is poor I am as always happy to go into it further :) …. but like I figured I’d keep it short? #I don’t know I am interested if anyone else sees this or if I’m just projecting lol :) #c!dream #dsmp #dreblr #dream smp #dsmp theory #dsmp analysis #did someone order an essay? #cuz look I’m ready to write one… challenge me I dare you lol XD <3 <3 #dreamsmp #dream smp dream #dsmp dream #hot take #cdream #I don’t know does that count as a hot take?….. #autistic characters #autistic headcanon #autistic c!dream #this is fine

[wobooga]

C!Punz and C!Dream.

I've had this idea for months that in the end C!Dream will just be revived.

Why?

C!Punz.

NO ONE and I mean ABSOLUTELY NO ONE knows that Punz is on Dream's side. You see in the Dreamxd video Punz has done a LOT with Dream. They've done a lot of planning with the revive book, the finale, etc. They are in complete kahoots and have each other's back fully.

Now with Tommy's lore today that makes me think more. He mentioned Punz and how without Punz him and Tubbo would be in trouble. I feel like that is paralleling to Punz never having had betrayed Dream.

If C!Dream is killed, i don't think none of that server restart bullshit is going to happen. He's just going to come back and no one will know why. Seriously C!Punz and C!Dream are such a genius evil duo, NO ONE knows ANYTHING about their plans.

#cdream #cpunz #dsmp dream #dream #dreamwastaken #punz #dsmp punz #dsmp lore #dsmp theory #ctommy #tommyinnit #tommy #dsmp #dream smp #drunz #punzwastaken #ideas #lore #truthing #pandoras vault #prison #discduo #finale #ctechno #technoblade #philza #quackity #cquackity #cwilbur

[mentally-retired]

would anyone he interested in my qsmp tubbo is dsmp theory/headcanon or nah?

#tubbo qsmp #qsmp tubbo #q!tubbo #c!tubbo #tubbo #dsmp tubbo #dsmp theory #qsmp theory #dsmp headcanon #qsmp headcanons #qsmp hcs #qsmp #dsmp

[kay-then-i-guess]

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, but first, some info

I think considering that the dsmp is very much over, it's important to examine it retrospectively. I don't know if most people like to do this, but I love to dissect media that I really like: the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Now that emotions and connections aren't as high (even nostalgia is low), I think looking back and connecting why the dsmp worked so much, what was actually good and what wasn't, and how it affected the idea of a "roleplay" is important.

So, I think I'm going to do that, but first, I want to ask you guys some questions to try and get a feel for the other fans. Feel free to answer as many or as little as you want.

1. What do you think made you connect to the dsmp?

2. At the time when the series was still running, what was your favorite part about it? Least favortie?

3. Now, looking back, what's your favorite part about it? Least favorite?

4. Did you like the ending? Feel free to delve into the different characters endings and not just the main one.

5. Did it affect what you watched/enjoyed afterwards (e.i. the type of TV shows or games or whatnot you like)?

6. Did it affect your view on roleplay?

7. just for funsies, who's your favorite character? :D

#dsmp #dream smp #dsmp discourse #dsmp discussion #dsmp tumblr #dsmpblr #dsmp theory #mcyt tumblr #mcyt tag #mcytblr #mcyt #mcyt fandom #dsmp fandom #minecraft youtubers

[a-particular-quetzalcoatl]

Thinking about the finale of DSMP S1

What if Punz revived Dream in front of Tommy because he was simply sick of his shit?

It's established that Punz gets used as a buyable weapon by most of the server, and he uses it to dissuade suspicion. But I also deeply suspect he hates being seen as a weapon, not a person. Dream's the only one who even treats him as something resembling a companion, a partner in crime. Trusting him to follow the plan to the end.

So imagine this. Punz is at the end of his rope. He's getting sick of all the people assuming he's on their side with a little cash. And Tommy somehow thinks he's obligated to be on HIS side, when Punz has made it clear that money does not make him attached.

And you want to know the irony of it all? This isn't even the first time Tommy's done this. He did it with Technoblade, and it blew up in his face. And yet, at the end of it all, did Tommy learn from his mistakes? That people are not meant to be bought?

No. He didn't.

So he lashes out at Tommy, because he's the closest person to lash out at. Tommy is just a symbol of the server's disregard. He's sick of pretending that Dream isn't someone he cares about in his own way, and a small part of him wants to see the curtain lift, wants Tommy to see what his hubris has brought. He is a part of the Stage Duo, not a bystander, and wants Tommy to despair maybe just as much as Dream does.

He wants to lift the curtain, and with whatever plot they have ahead, they can work around it.

So my hot take? Punz is not an apologist, nor is he truly passive. He doesn't apologize for Dream, because they are in it together. Punz is a villain in this story, and he wants people to see it, see him.

For it is better to be seen as a villain than as nothing but an object.

#myct #dsmp #dsmp finale #c!punz #c!dream #staged duo #c!tommy #dream smp #people really treating punz as a maiden #when he could just be evil #dsmp theory #thematic parallels go brrrr

[altair214]

I cannot get over how c!Ranboo saw Mexican Dream coming towards him in a boat and saw the green skin, thought it was c!Dream and immediately said “have you come to take me back? is it time?” 

Like I knew they were working together, but it was always subtle implications. This was solid evidence. c!Ranboo is waiting on c!Dream to bring him back for something specific. Perhaps a particular step in The Plan that will be the season 1 finale? 

#they make me insane #c!ranboo #ranboo #c!dream #dreamwastaken #c!endersmile #dream smp #dsmp #dream smp lore #dsmp lore #dream smp theory #dsmp theory #dreblr #mcyt

[cmyknoise]

So, yippblr correct me if I’m wrong, but c!Fundy has had recurring dreams of the L’manburg van in this barren dessert. 

I think, in the book we just read the mentions of a desert primarily tie into the story of Ozymandias, however, I think pulling from information we know about limbo, the afterlife, Wilbur, and XD, and stuff about Fundy, you can easily tie them together. This is my sort of idea on how. 

Wilbur Soot was in limbo for 13 years, and others who have been dead and remain dead have been there for longer. From everything we’ve heard each limbo is essentially hellish and designed to make the dead suffer. 

XD implied that this is how he gets his energy and power. He consumes suffering and chaos and it in turn gives him power. He implies that he is responsible for limbo and it being the way it does. I think it could be safe to assume that, similar to George’s dreams, he controls limbo and uses it to feed and power himself. He purposefully makes limbo hellish to make people suffer, so that he can feed from it. 

Because limbo isn’t an after life, it’s the in-between. In almost every origin for limbo ever it’s the in-between of life and death. It’s where people go if there’s no set place for them to go, or it’s a waiting place so they can be brought to whatever their afterlife may be. It’s supposed to be temporary. But, so far... it isn’t. 

Wilbur talks about what he thinks the afterlife is, what he wants it to be, which is so interesting coming from one of the only people who could speak on limbo, and he doesn’t think that’s the afterlife, or at least he hopes it isn’t. 

He thinks the afterlife is a large desert where he and all the people who want to be there, who want to join him, where they can start over. Where they can start over right and happy and create home again without the hardship they all faced before. 

L’manburg is their home, it started with a van. If they were to start over... it’d make sense if they started over again with just a van. Poetic, maybe. 

And then that brings up Fundy’s dreams. He has dreamt of a barren waste of a desert with just a van, and no one else there, it’s vacant and alone.  I think one could argue they could be symbolic dreams, of Fundy’s fears or worries or stress, but Fundy’s other dreams have been near prophetic. 

What if this was too? Or... almost. Rather than seeing the future or something, he’s seeing another place. He’s seeing the afterlife (i mean, if you consider things like his potential lineage with his grandparents that could help). He’s seeing the afterlife at that given moment except... it’s empty. 

It’s empty because no one is there. There should be, but there isn’t, because no one is allowed to pass on. No one is allowed to be there. 

Maybe, if things were different, he’d see his dead father rebuilding, he’d see an oasis of life in a desert. He’d see Tommy briefly, he’d see the start of something, he’d see something... peaceful. But it’s not, it’s barren and cold and empty. 

Fundy is seeing the afterlife, devoid of life, and doesn’t know what to make of it, what it is. 

This could mean something, it could not. 

Maybe he’d see something different if people had been allowed to pass on, if they ever are in the future. 

Maye it was supposed to mean something, he was supposed to see something, but the pieces never fell into place how they were supposed to so he never did. 

There’s lots of what-ifs and potentials with this, I guess.

#dsmp #dream smp #wilbur soot #fundy #theory #analysis #dsmp analysis #dsmp theory #dsmp spoilers #lemon's stuff

[the-blaze-empress]

and another something about the differences between c!eternalduo when it comes to history.

eret who is building a museum, collecting every single little thing they can and displaying them with the same importance as the tattered flags or the genuine walls of lmanburg. eret who is going as far as he possibly can to make sure nothing and no one is forgotten, everything is documented and remembered and nothing is too small or inconsequential to be included

and foolish, who burnt an entire chest of historical artifacts. foolish who tore down a monument and destroyed its remains, who looked on without a trace of regret. foolish who declared that “some things don’t need to be remembered”. foolish who acknowledged how important the items were but burnt them regardless

what has eret lost that she works so hard to preserve everything? and what is foolish unable to forget that he’ll throw history away so readily? are they the same thing?

#eret #c!eret #foolish #foolish gamers #dsmp #dsmp theory #i have so many brainrot over this #and ngl im kinda tempted to actually tag eret #idk i feel like ive got nothing to lose lmao #i just. brainrot #original thoughts in their natural habitat #dsm5 i meant dsm5

[memegirl-14]

WAIT.

OK SO I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WHO DRAW C!TOMMY AS A RACCOON AND AFTER A FEW MINUTES OF RESEARCH I REALIZED SOMETHING

He's not a raccoon.

He's a tanuki.

According to Japan house, tanuki are shape-shifting raccoon-dogs who shapeshift into humans to play tricks on other humans because they enjoy tricking them. Tanuki are considered unclever and very humorous when it comes to their tricks. Tanuki became associated with benevolence, prosperity, and fun. There are stories of tanuki shape-shifting into humans to drink, play games, and party with humans.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm almost positive that c!tommy is a tanuki.

#dsmp tommyinnit #dsmp theory #tommyinnit #dsmp #tommy mcyt

[idkwatthehec]

I think I might actually make a big post/essay about my time loop theory, because the more I rewatch and rediscover, specifically Tales and some of Erets stuff, the more I realize how deep it really goes. Like, I think they were planning for this to actually be the ending, but it was cut short because of what You Know Who did.

Either way, it sort of fixes the disastrous ending we did get, or at least the weird reset that happened, not any of the shit Tommy was spewing that was definitely spoon fed to him by You Know Who.

#dsmp #dream smp #c!wilbur #technoblade #wilbur soot #fuck #dsmp fanfic #goo goobie #tommyinnit #dsmp tommy #c!tommy #c!techno #c!tubbo #dsmp theory #dsmp lore #now the real question is #should it be a text post or a video? #or both?

[elmhat]

Let's just pretend for a second that this is canon.

We know Foolish built Quackity a panic bunker, and we know they have both used it in the past, thanks to LN5. The nuke sirens from Tommy's finale were really loud. Maybe even loud enough to be heard all the way in Las Nevadas. It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume they were able to make it to the bunker in time.

If we take Fundy's words at face value that he left Las Nevadas some time before the finale, that means...

Quackity and Foolish are the only two people alive.

In the entire world.

That is the single most terrifying thought in the server's history.

#at that point it's better to just let the nuke take you #dsmp #dsmp analysis #dsmp theory #lore thoughts #c!quackity #c!foolish #las nevadas

[transbeeduo]

RECENT EGG LORE SPOILERS

I am having MANY thoughts about the fact that Egg Velvet was seemingly CANONIZED during today's Egg Lore stream. And I was thinking about how THE EGG LITERALLY F__KING HATCHING would affect things. For starters, if The Egg is played by Velvet, how would it tie into C!Antfrost???? Would they have some sort of odd romance, despite their character's history, or what would happen???? Would Velvet be his own entity, with the ability to have rational thoughts besides The Egg's current thoughts of growing and control and murder, or would he be like some kind of horrible vessel. (Think Hawthorn from Wings of Fire). Would he still be able to control others? Would he still have the telepathy, the vines, the spores, the everything??? Would Skeppy and Puffy still be obeying his orders?? Also, how will he tie into Season 2??? I have a feeling this is a way to announce Velvet being whitelisted into the SMP, with the fact that he was the only one in the lore stream that wasn't whitelisted on the DSMP. It'd make sense for him to be whitelisted too, considering he's friends with a LOT of people currently on the server. (also I think it'd be funny if in Season 2, he just COMPLETELY subverts everyone's expectations and is just the same as he always is. Bad and Skeppy try to do serious lore with him and he's just "omg skephalo 😩.... Big Daddy... 😳" and just being his normal Velvet self [affectionate])

#DSMP Spoilers #Egg lore #Egglore #Eggpire #Egg Velvet #Velvetiscake #C!Antfrost #Antfrost #C!Ant #dsmp theory #DSMP #Dreamsmp #Dream SMP #MCYT #MCYTBLR #velvetisfrost #velvetfrost #C!velvetfrost #fantheory #theory #crunch’s bites

[b3-with-you]

dsmp season 2 theories: where the hell is punz?

if the whole server was blown up or at least the majority of it has been, it would mean that most people would have lost a canon life from the nukes and that everyone who only had one life left is most likely dead. but here also comes the question of where the hell is punz? punz is canonically dead since he was down to one life after he was revived from the book, but he wasn’t in the “new world.” tubbo, tommy, and dream were there, and jack had two lives left so i’m assuming that he’s probably still in the old world, but punz was no where to be seen. and since they are dead, they’re most likely in a limbo of some sort.

but the idea of limbo gets kind of iffy regarding how different characters have described and experienced it. we know limbo changes depending on how you die, but there are certain limbos where you’re alone, certain ones where there are others with you, and certain ones where you have to live out your personal hell. for example, we have ghostbur who’s alone in a train and then we have ranboo who was in the middle of the ocean until mexican dream came along and then tommy’s first limbo in which he was schlatt, wilbur, and mexican dream. there are so many questions and i can’t tell if they’re plot holes or if they’re gonna be answered some time in the future.

but with that, i believe that punz is in his own personal hell and because of that, he’ll end up being one of the main villains of season 2. starting with the conversation between tommy and dream, punz could tell that tommy was winning dream over. he literally put himseld in between dream and tommy and said that he was dream’s friend. that he’s dream’s only friend.

i used to think that punz genuinely cared about dream even if it was just a little, i mean how could you not? they spent so much time together, they killed each other, they watched each other die, punz probably had to take of dream after he escaped prison—you can’t go through all of that without at least feeling something for the other person. but above everything, punz’s main goal has always been power and dream was able to give him that. but not vulnerable, sappy, innocent dream. punz needed the ruthless, cold monster that dream became. that was who he cared about.

by the end of it, dream finally caved in and started putting his trust in tommy. if the nukes had never hit, dream would have 100% changed. he wouldn’t have killed tommy, i think he would have let him go and punz would have hated that. dream and tommy died with hope, with understanding. even tubbo, he died on the bench, he died thinking about tommy and all the moments they had. punz, however, died not wanting to die—not wanting to lose. he was never gonna change, he would always be after power. that’s the biggest difference between punz and dream—dream did everything because he cared, he just got too carried away with the power, but all punz cared about was the power.

a/n: not proofread, hope this made sense

#dsmp lore #dsmp spoilers #c!dream #c!punz #dsmp season 2 #dsmp theory #dsmp theories #c!drunz #staged duo #punz lore #b3-with-you loremode #dream tommy and tubbo are gonna be best friends and fight punz #new dream team fr

[lockthespirits87]

I have so many feelings about the past two streams.

Like, it is GLARINGLY obvious that someone is gonna die, right? Probably knowing cc!Tommy's lore, I would not be surprised if c!Tubbo died. I mean, he has barely anything left to lose.

c!Tubbo lost his brother (adopted brother, still a brother), and didn't even know he was leaving. He lost his husband, once in front of his eyes, and then his husband lost his other life via stabbing and c!tubbo couldn't do anything about it. He has his child, sure, but does he visit him? Like at all?

The only thing c!tubbo has is c!tommy at this point. And c!tommy only has c!tubbo. If c!Dream and c!punz want to hurt them the most, it would be killing one of the two. Probably c!tubbo, since c!Dream has ALWAYS been more focused on fucking with c!tommy.

That being said, if c!tommy dies, the server would basically be sparked up to kill c!dream. And that could be a whole season right there, since c!punz has a revival book and I don't think he's on his last life. So it could turn into a server wide manhunt, with c!tubbo leading all of them with a fucking bomb under his belt.

I'm not ready for the following streams. I am terrified /hj

#dream smp #dsmp lore #mcyt #dsmp theory #c!tommy #tommyinnit #c!tubbo #tubbolive #c!dream #c!punz