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andreal831 · 2 months
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The Depiction of the Werewolves in TO
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Once again, I made a quick, I thought funny, tiktok, which has upset some people because of my, you could say, lack of sympathy for the wolves in TO. But don't blame me, blame the writers.
If you know anything about me, you know Hayley Marshall is a top favorite character for me. I love her growth and the journey she went on to find her family. Which is why, when she did find them (excluding the whole betraying Tyler thing), I was upset by how they treated her. You have Jackson telling her he was disappointed in their interaction, you have Oliver taking advantage of her hospitality and betraying her, and then the rest of her family doesn't even greet her/talk to her. She is supposed to be this "princess who is promised," and yet they can't even take a second to get to know her. I get, they have been cursed and are just trying to enjoy their human moments while they can, but it just didn't give me anything to bond with.
Except Eve. I loved Eve. She welcomed Hayley, not as some long lost royal, but as family. Eve is the first, and really only, werewolf/family that we, as the audience, get to see Hayley bond with. We see her helping Hayley prepare for her baby as well as teaching her about their culture. It's implied others are helping as well, but we never get to see it. It all happens off screen. I just know, if Eve had been alive, she would have been by Hayley's side after she "lost" Hope.
Which makes it so much worse when Oliver kills Eve. And all for power. This is where my dislike for the New Orleans werewolves comes in. Any other time we meet wolves, there is a strong sense of loyalty. You hear, Tyler and Jules and even Hayley talk about the packs they have been with and you see them working together to avoid/fight off Klaus. But then we get to the Crescent wolves and learn that they have been trying to kill each other for power. Not just in the past, we actively see Oliver get his own pack members killed and then kill Eve with zero consequences. Yes, Oliver does die, but not because of that. He is still given a proper burial, something we don't even get to see for Eve.
Now, an argument people use a lot with the wolves is that they are the oppressed. But this argument, to me, comes more from the historical portrayal of werewolves and less from the sources material we are discussing. Throughout much media, the wolves are meant to represent the oppressed -- the poor and downtrodden -- who have been taken advantage of by the blood-sucking aristocrats, the vampires. But in TO, Jackson tells us that the werewolves were at the top of the food chain until in-fighting got the better of them.
And we see this in flashbacks to 1919. Lana Lebonair is working with the Mikaelsons and they are able to create peace in the city with the witches. After the Mikaelsons flee, we don't know exactly what happened, but we know leading up to the 1990s there had been enough in-fighting that the Lebonairs and Kenners had set up an arranged marriage in hopes to quell the civil war that had broken out.
Unlike in other depictions of werewolves, the wolves were not inherently oppressed. The first werewolf we ever meet is Tyler Lockwood, who was by no means strapped for cash. In 1919, the Crescents were living in the Quarter, partying right alongside everyone else. It wasn't until their own members made power grabs did they have issues.
In hindsight, we are told these power grabs are due to the Hollow and someone implied that Marcel should have investigated the werewolves civil war before cursing all of them. First, I don't necessarily support Marcel in everything he does. To me, in Season 1, he was very much like Klaus and it was not my favorite version of him. Should he have cursed an entire pack for the actions of a handful, probably not. But the way Marcel talks about it, it was not just a handful, the entire pack was at war with itself. And the curse only applied to those who had triggered the curse or did trigger the curse, so no children. Again, was there a better solution, maybe, but was it up to Marcel to realize a ancient spirit had possessed one of their leaders when not even his wife had realized? That may be asking too much. Especially after he was watching them try to butcher a baby.
Due to this curse, the werewolves do end up isolated in the bayou. The curse lasts for about 20 years so many of the young members miss out on much of their early adulthood. This is something the show should have gone in on more. In my story, I try to explore this idea that, because of the curse, the werewolves are really disenfranchised. However, in the show, we don't get that. The only wolves we deal with are the leaders who are essentially using their pack as a power play. Aiden is the only leader who seems to be aware that these decisions are impacting the entire pack, and he gets reprimanded for speaking out. Aiden is so desperate to save his pack that he goes to his enemies (Elijah and Marcel) to protect the children from the decisions of his own pack members.
To me, the beauty of the werewolves comes from their loyalty, from how they work together and support each other. The depiction of the Crescent wolves flies in the face of everything I typically love about packs. The leaders abandon each other, have little respect for each other, and for some reason they have a monarchy. Hayley and Aiden are the only leaders we truly see fighting for the pack, and they are often disrespected by the very members they are trying to help.
In Season 1, Hayley is torn between the people who took her in and the pack that she always wanted to find. She ends up in the middle of the conflict and the pack (Oliver) often throws that in her face and uses her as a pawn to try and manipulate the Mikaelsons while also disrespecting her over and over again. But the thing is, they didn't need a pawn. They never tried to open discussions. Hayley marches into a faction meeting angry that the werewolves were not included in the discussion, but they had never asked to be included. As Elijah points out, the meeting was to divide up the Quarter and the wolves do not live in the Quarter. If you are familiar with New Orleans, you know the nearest bayou is about an hour drive away. But when Hayley asked (demanded) to be in the conversation, she was immediately included. She then signed a treaty saying the wolves would help create peace, only for her to go back to the bayou to discover Jackson and Oliver were both working behind her back to make a side deal with Klaus for more power. Instead of building peace, they were again lobbying for power. The very thing that got them cursed in the first place.
Someone argued, 'of course they are trying to get power, they don't want to be cursed again.' And sure, but even when they get their power from Hayley, it doesn't stop them from being cursed by Dahlia. But maybe if they had made friends with the witches, they would have been able to get help from Davina earlier than they did.
It's easy to look at each faction and point out how they've been wronged, but as Hayley points out, they've all harmed each other. If they all wanted reparations for that harm, it would never end. The wolves seem to get the short end of the stick a lot, because, as Jackson says, they were never unified. The witches were and the vampires were. It's not up to the other factions to cut them a break because they couldn't get it together. At the end of it all, they needed to move forward and worry about the future of their people. Which is what Hayley and Lana do leading up to Season 5, when New Orleans was able to actually achieve peace. Not surprising it took women being in charge before the pack found unity.
I would also like to point out that in my post I had also called out Klaus and Marcel. I am not solely blaming the werewolves for the war in New Orleans. But it is incorrect to say the werewolves were innocent bystanders in it. Their history is just as bloody as the other factions. The only faction that was innocent was the human faction who truly did not get a seat at the table. And of course, in any war, the people who ended up paying for these power moves were good people like Sophie and Eve.
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simply-ellas-stuff · 1 year
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Do we ever see a guy with the crescent birthmark??
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Can't stop thinking about how Ithan has spent all this time looking/hoping for an alternative to lead the wolves, when the whole time, of course, of course! It had to be Ithan. Who else could it be! He was the one that was there, that was doing the work, who led his pack to the human districts during the spring attack, who ran straight there again after the second attack. Because he cares about people! He cares about the wolves. He cares about where they are and where they're headed.
Even after they treat him so terribly, spit on him, reject him, disown him. He never stops caring. He never stops dreaming of a better future for them. He never stops believing that they can be better then what they've become. He never stops hoping for an alternative future for them. And I know he doesn't think he's worthy, or that people will follow him or respect him. But he's what a leader should be. Kind, caring, Brave, selfless. Someone who looks out for people who are weaker then himself. And he makes mistakes along the way. But he takes ownership of them, and does his best to try and right them. And he has his down moments, but he never gives up and he never stops dreaming. And who better to lead the wolves then someone who is a dreamer
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anyaboz · 10 months
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Crescent Moon Wolf Room Guardian
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bennettmaximoff · 7 months
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The Crescent Princess ☽
↳ Hope Mikaelson + werewolf eyes
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crazychicke · 9 months
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moodboards: Hope Mikaelson/wolf pack Inspired by: [Youngblood/EKNH/A&F]
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helion-ism · 2 months
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petition for book stores to show exactly how books look like (including the spine) for idiots (me) who don’t remember to check if they need the us or uk cover to fit better into their bookshelf
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aleks-art · 11 months
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Howling Wolves
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Hi, do you like wolves? ;)
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howlingcrispy · 9 months
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Crescent Moonlight - 12/FINAL
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shallyne · 2 years
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Did you realize that every SJM main character has a connection to a wolf/wolves
Aelin has Fenrys
Bryce got called a wolf twice by the prime
Feyre and her water wolves
Hmmmm 🤔
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andreal831 · 2 months
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Hello, just a fellow The Originals fan here. Do you think Jackson could have been a better character if the writers decided to make him part of Hayley's biological family, instead of a love interest?
I think as a brother, or even as a cousin, he would have worked better. He being so protective of her as a wolf in season 1 would make more sense, he would want to protect his long lost sister and unborn niece, instead of following her just because she's his fiancée.
Jackson would care more for Hope as he did her stepfather, maybe seeing her as a second chance, after not being able to protect Hayley in the past. Having lost his entire family as a child, he would relate to Hayley losing her child in some kind of way and definitly would not abandon her. After Hope's return, I could see him working with Elijah to make the wolves of the bayou their personal army (to avoid the wedding plot, maybe Davina o Freya could find a loophole and resolve the situation as such).
So... Sorry for possible grammar mistakes, this is not my first language, and... well, I'm waiting for your response
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Hi love! Thanks for asking!
I absolutely wish we could have seen Hayley have actual family. She searched her whole life for her family and even sacrificed 12 of her friends for their location. Only to find them and essentially be rejected by them, except for when she has something to offer. I love found families, which is why I love her connection to the Mikaelsons, but I would have loved for her to build that connection with her pack. She began to have it with Eve, but after Eve was killed, we don't really see her build that bond with anyone else.
This is where the show failed to develop a love triangle. I don't like love triangles, but especially this one. Even when I don't like both ships, I can usually see why people are torn. But in order to make the audience torn, you have to make the character torn as well. We don't really see that from Hayley. She isn't torn between two men, rather torn between a man she loves and the simple life she wants. She likes the idea of marrying Jackson because he represents the life she could have had if her parents hadn't been murdered. And this is only after she is forced to even consider it in order to save her daughter. They didn't have to completely remove him as a love interest to make them have a better relationship. They simply needed to invest in the character/ relationship.
We can compare this to the other love triangle in this fandom. I liked early Stelena and can't stand Delena, but I can see why people ship them. People were shipping Delena since season 1, even when it seemed that Stelena was endgame. This is a successful love triangle. But people shipped them because we saw moments between Delena where he was vulnerable and she felt like she was the only one who could fix him. We could see them begin to develop feelings, even just familial ones. We don't get scenes like that with Jayley.
Every moment of vulnerability we see from Hayley is with Elijah or even Klaus. For Jayley to be a competitive ship, I needed to see moments where Hayley was opening up or Jackson was being vulnerable. I needed to see some connection between them other than just being from the same pack or being betrothed. I also needed to see Jackson understand that Hayley wasn't Andrea. He was so busy trying to "save" her from the Mikaelsons that he never realized how similar to them she was. They could have had her tell him about how she helped get 12 wolves killed and have him have to process/understand that, understand who she became because his grandfather killed her parents. They had a complex history and really could have been a complex ship. But we never get to see them share anything personal and develop that complexity.
Which brings me to your point. If Jackson had been related, it would have really changed the dynamic. Hayley would still feel torn between her family and the Mikaelsons but it wouldn't have been so difficult. We don't really see Hayley taking Jackson's romantic interest in her into consideration in season 1 at all. She really only mentions it to push Elijah to act. Other than that, we don't see any romantic connection. They basically were just family. But the real shift would be the hierarchy of the pack.
One thing I've mentioned that I hate about the Crescent pack is the confusing hierarchy. Part of this is due to the fact that the pack actually split in two and developed two different "royal" families. My other issue is the monarchy aspect. Packs are meant to be led by the strongest members, members who are chosen or earn it, it doesn't matter what family they come from. This is something they seemed to ignore in TO because they wanted to position Hayley and Klaus and King and Queen. I hated this. Hayley was always referred to as a queen, even having the pack kneel for her (ew), while Jackson is referred to as the alpha, not the king.
If they were related, theoretically, one of them would have a better claim to the pack rather than being from rival families. To me, Hayley or Aiden should have been alpha. We don't see Jackson ever step up for the pack the way we see Aiden and Hayley. In a normal pack, if the alpha runs off and someone else steps up, they would challenge that position. But here, Jackson just comes back and resumes his position. I would have liked to see a challenge. This is why monarchies are bad. They are allowed to rule no matter what they do, they don't have to improve or even try.
You're definitely right about the protective as a wolf thing though. I was always confused by what level of understanding the pack had as wolves. We are told in TVD that the wolves don't remember when they turn and don't have control. This is what makes hybrids different. But the Crescent Wolves seemed to remember their time as wolves and even control it. Maybe this is due to the curse or just one of many plot holes, who knows. But we already know that the wolves naturally are drawn to family. Ansel was drawn to Klaus as a child and then to Hope in his wolf form. That would have made sense for Jackson to be drawn to Hayley as his family and his wolf being protective. I don't think it would make sense to say his wolf was protective simply because of an arranged marriage.
It also would have shifted Jackson's motivations. To me, it felt like every interaction between Jackson and Hayley was motivated by Jackson's desire to fulfil his childhood dream of marrying his lost Andrea. It broke my heart for Hayley that the first chance she gets to meet her family, Jackson tells her he is disappointed by it and the rest of her family just ignores her. I would have loved Jackson to hold off on the obligations and just get to know Hayley. Maybe ask how she's feeling about being pregnant or offer her some stories about her (their) family. If he was biologically related to her, this would have been more of her focus. And to your point, he would have been more interested in the baby since it was his family. It would have been more impactful to see them bond over losing their family, of being forced out of their homes. They really did have a lot they could have bonded over but the show just didn't let them.
It would have made him take Hayley more seriously as a political leader of the pack, rather than just a potential wife. The pack was terrible at politics and part of this could have been because they lived most of their lives as wolves. They should have welcomed Hayley's experience and intelligence and even her connection to the Mikaelsons. Ironically, the pack had the arranged marriage because they understood it could help create peace between the warring packs. You would think they would understand Hayley's connection to the Mikaelsons could do the same thing. Hayley even bonds with Davina and could have gotten the witches on their side. They could have worked with the Mikaelsons and even the witches to come up with a better solution.
Another issue I have is that the unification ceremony gives the pack the power of the alphas, but why wouldn't Hayley just taking over the pack and them swearing their allegiance to her give them her power? The magic just felt so forced. There seemed to be a lot of better options.
Essentially, he didn't need another story line to be a better character. He needed better writing or more time.
Sorry this was so long but I hope I answered it all!
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lovclyjily · 2 years
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I don't know how to explain this but Ash Morgenstern, Will Herondale, Jace Herondale, James Herondale, Julian Blackthorn, Rhysand, Ruhn Danaan, Lidia Cervos, Dorian Havilliard, Aedion Ashryver, Damon Salvatore, and Severin Montagnet Alarie are all the same type of people.
Also the fact that Lidia Cervos is someone I'm attracted to as much as I'm to Rhys speaks volumes about her character. The real MVP.
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My eyeballs are slightly wet from thinking about how beautiful literally every single Ikepri wedding gacha illustration is. There's literally not a single one that's even slightly not-good.
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Buddy you tellin me I get to marry the other princes next year? And they're gonna have literally the most beautiful cards to complete the series of the most beautiful cards?
also i'm gonna go ahead and wager that gilbert's tux is going to be white. i'm also going to wager that i'm going to be wrong about that. this way, i cannot lose 😌(i'll draw him in a black tux if he gets white, and vice-versa)
i have the next several months to brainstorm how and where and why dalmatian spots will manifest on silvio's tux
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shapeshiftersandfire · 9 months
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what if i…..really leaned into norse mythology for the wolves…..
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anthonyspage · 1 year
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kennheir · 1 year
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BELLE MARSHALL-KENNER AND HER POTENTIAL FOR MAGIC: A META
(and lowkey a defense bc i don’t wanna get yelled at)
I’d like to start this off by stating for the record that i’m not just doing this to try and make Belle more ‘relevant’ or steal Hope’s thunder, i just Really love my daughter and it’d be a disservice to her character if i didn’t at least explore the possibility, especially when canon DOES go in our favor for once.
So what evidence does canon give us?
Inadu was an EXTREMELY powerful witch, practically from birth. She was able to cast a curse that created an ENTIRE NEW SUPERNATURAL SPECIES and have it still be going 4000+ years after her death
she was so powerful that the Ancestors had to LOCK HER AWAY because her thirst for power was too much for them and she was STILL able to break through the hold MULTIPLE times to influence various supernaturals in New Orleans to get rid of her bloodline
She created werewolves by cursing the members of her WITCH COVEN who had a hand in her death, who went on to create the 7 different wolf bloodlines, her own being the Crescent Pack with the Labonair bloodline being her direct descendants through her mother
And what does this tell us? That Inadu was a POWERFUL ass witch, that wolves are descended from the original seven cursed witches so  Literally EVERY werewolf in existence has magic running through their veins, and the Crescent Pack is descended from her bloodline, with the Labonairs being her DIRECT DESCENDANTS.
Conclusion? When you really think about, pretty much ALL wolves have the potential to awaken and access magic but SPECIFICALLY the Crescent Wolf Pack, ESPECIALLY those of Inadu’s direct bloodline - the Labonairs.
So where am i going with this?
SCENARIO 1:  Belle could gain access to her magic with the help of a strong enough witch but ONLY at the expense of completely giving up her wolf side as her Curse would be broken - Possible if done by a Mikaelson witch as the Curse is OLD and spite is a hell of a motivator, but not something Belle would do as she wouldn’t want to give up such an INTEGRAL part of herself.
SCENARIO 2: Belle could gain access to her innate magic through exposure to EXTREMELY powerful witches, like growing up with Hope and Freya with their power as firstborn Mikaelson witches , her encounter with the Hollow and the followers she’d gifted magic to as a kid during season 4, or even through Hope taking on the Hollow’s power for herself
OFFICIAL CONCLUSION? Scenario two seems more likely based on Belle’s character and wouldn’t mess with canon, i didn’t pull this out of my ass y’all!!
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