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lover-of-mine · 6 months
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Taykay: i love you 😊
Buck: eww 😬
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matan4il · 10 months
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It's not even that any other LI can't compete. It's also that the writers don't even make them contenders. Hopefully, this comes out right. But intentional or not, they make Buddifer and Buddie time sacred, and nothing interprets it.
Like Natalia running off and preggo Kam just sits down and eats. It was funny, really. Even all the date interruptions were funny, including Taylor.
When Buddie are together nothing interrupts their space and you sort of just know nothing would. Like neither would allow it. If Natalia came not knocking on the door while cookie making with Chris you just know Buck would have sent her away. And not because he's being responsible but because you don't get in the way of his family time.
Hopefully that word salad made sense.
Hi Nonnie, thank you for the ask!
TBH, I think we're at the point where it's a chicken and egg thing. No other LI can compete, so the show isn't even trying anymore. And when the show isn't trying, obviously no other LI can compete with what Buddie have...
I agree, in s2 we already got the foundation for Buddifer, but since s3, it has become so important to the characters AND the show, and no matter what Buck and Eddie are going through, no matter where they are in their romantic lives, they always come together, we always see them being there for each other and the kid they're co-parenting. We saw that in s5, for example! Buck is dating Taylor, but when Chris calls, Buck will ALWAYS pick up. He will always rush out if his kid and his baby daddy Eddie need him, we don't even see him taking leave or explaining to Taylor what's going on. As far as 911 has shown us, he stormed out that door immediately 'coz his family needs him.
You made perfect sense, thank you again and I hope that you have a great day! As always, my ask tag. xoxox
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sevensoulmates · 2 months
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so both buck and eddie are gonna go on dates with the wrong people in the same episode....what a coincidence i must say. Tommy for Buck and Marisol for Eddie. Both the wrong people. Buck's date with Tommy will probably be about him getting comfortable with the idea of being with a man and Marisol's date with Eddie will be about Eddie finding out about her....and then breaking up with her when he finds out about her. Marisol is so bones.
Okay, first of all I just want to start off by saying we don't actually KNOW Buck is going on a date with Tommy. We don't really know anything about how/why Tommy will be utilized as a character, so while it's fun to speculate, I just want to make sure we're all on the same page that this isn't founded in anything concrete that we have proof of right now. We don't even know if Tommy's going to interact with Buck, specifically, at all. Just want to get that out of the way first and foremost so that people aren't taking what I'm saying (or anyone else in the fandom) as law, when it very much isn't.
I'm just having fun speculating like everyone else! Now, if Tommy and Buck did go on a date? Not gonna lie, I'd be thrilled. Not because of them, but because of Bi Buck and the implications for Buddie. I don't watch The Rookie but I saw some people were talking about how it would be cool if there was a buddie double date scene in a similar vein as chenford.
I also just think the implications of having buck and eddie's dating lives crash into each other so much would be interesting (even if Buck was still with Natalia or another woman). The only time we've really ever seen Buck and Eddie interacting with each other's girlfriends/SO's was that one scene with Taylor over at the Diaz house for dinner (awkward as fuck) and Buck saying hi to Ana in s5 when she visits the firehouse for a second. But otherwise they've never really integrated their dates/gfs with each other in any real concrete significant way before. So It would be interesting to see how both of them handle this sudden shift in dynamic.
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chronicowboy · 2 years
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buck and taylor in the middle of an argument about the whole jonah news report thing and taylor's being all defensive and buck's phone buzzes with a text from eddie saying he and chris just got home and buck just looks up at taylor and says "we're over, keep the loft until u find a new place" and runs over to see his two favourite people in the world <3
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stagefoureddiediaz · 2 years
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Its way the buck was describing his/eddie relationship without even realising ti and then ravi literally desrive it and buck agreed. Its inteersting how buck doesnt see it and I wonder why, is because its eddie(and he doesnt want to lose him etc) or because he has just accidently built it.
Hey Nonnie
Honestly - watching Buck describe his relationship with Eddie while talking to Maddie and him still not grasping that its Eddie he's talking about is both peak oblivious Buck but also a little heartbreaking - it was compelling viewing, and it still is!!
I can't get over how well they've intertwined all the relationships on 911 in that one scene, because that description Buck gives isn't just describing BUck and Eddies relationship, but Bobby and Anthena's relationship, Hen and Karens, Chim and Maddies and even Michael and Athenas post divorce relationship as well as Michael and Davids relationship. to be able to do that in that way, and in a way that really really highlights how all Bucks other relationships (and actually all the other failed relationships we've seen on the show for all the mains) have been a million miles away from what he's actually looking for. its just a fantastic scene with so many layers!
As to why Buck doesn't yet see that he already has it with Eddie - there are a couple of reasons - the Taylor of it all and the energy he's put into that relationship is the big and obvious one, but there is also the upbringing Buck had - the lack of parental love etc that he received that has made Buck emotionally immature and stunted (Maddies relationship with Doug also plays into this) but also I genuinely don't think its actually occurred to him that he's been steadily building what he wants with Eddie because Buck is the person who tends to follow rather than lead when it comes to his personal life. I find it really interesting that Buck told Taylor that he's sick of being the one doing the chasing - that he's going to not do that anymore, when the reality is far far less black and white than that.
the show has gone out o its way to make it seem like Buck has done the chasing when you look at it superficially, however the reverse is actually the case - Buck is the one being chased in all his relationships with women! Abby chased Buck. Ali also chased Buck. Taylor did chase Buck (in both season 2 and 4/5 and I'll come back to this) and we can even add Lucy into this equation (and its another reason why Lucy is not ever going to be Bucks endgame!). So Buck has a warped perspective when it comes to the chasing and being chased which actually makes things interesting.
So we have Abby who is the one to innitiate contact with Buck (in a highly illegal and immoral way but I'm not getting into that), she is the one to keep pushing that contact, and in a way that leads to Buck (with all his mental trauma and baggage at this point) chasing her for more - she is (in a overly simplified way) teasing and leading him along.
Ali is also the one to make first contact with Buck after the earthquake, she is the one to ask for a date and in that relationship (the little of it we see) shows her leading the direction of everything.
Taylor is the one who plays Buck during the time she's following the 118 - she is using Buck in pursuit of her story. Then she is the one to send the drink over to Buck in the bar, and then she is the one to initiate the news van hook up etc. then in season 4 she strings him along and is the one controlling the 'narrative' until Buck decides to move along - then she is the one taking advantage of his vulnerable state (where have we seen this before!) and through the whole of S5 we see her in control and Buck chasing (including to Oklahoma!)
And of course we see Lucy in the bar being the one to initiate the flirting and the kissing.
It's all so compelling when it come to Buddie and why Buck is oblivious at this moment in time. For me it ties in to Eddies relationship storyline perfectly because, where Buck has been chased, Eddie has been the one doing the chasing.
We obviously don't know exactly how Eddie and Shannon got together initially, but what we know of Eddies childhood and family dynamic, theres a pretty good chance he asked her out back then. Eddie came to LA to try to reconnect with Shannon and he continued to pursue that relationship with her despite his reservations about her and her being back in his (and Christophers) life. Then with Ana, Eddie is (pushed) the one who asks Ana out and then just floats along in a relationship he's not really sure about because its expected - he chases then settles!
the reason I've gone into a detail here is that I wanted to illustrate the patterns of behaviour for both Buck and Eddie the writers have established because I think its significant for Buddie and how we get there and that ties into Bucks current state of obliviousness! I think when we get there, it will be Buck doing the chasing of Eddie. I think Buck will remain largely oblivious until there is a catalyst which leads him to leave obliviousness behind and realise he wants Eddie and that Eddie is everything he's been looking for and is the love of his life.
I think that catalyst may very well be Eddies continued unrepression in 6a which will culminate in a queer awakening that Buck is present for in some way (whether he's the first person Eddie tells or what I don't know). From there, I don't think it will take Buck long to figure everything out and then choose to pursue Eddie - to be the one doing the chasing, which will mean that Eddie is the one being chased for the first time in his life. the fact that this will then be the opposite way to their previous experiences automatically sets Buddie as being different for both of them and thus setting that relationship up for success!
Anyway I've rambled a lot and this is just my thoughts on the reasoning behind the writers leaving Buck in the dark for the moment - because for me it feels very deliberate to have set both Buck and Eddies previous relationships up in the way they have if they don't intend to 'break the cycle' in that way!!
sorry it took so long to get to this ask!
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scattered-winter · 10 months
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i genuinely do not see how bucktaylor was a "dysfunctional destructive relationship" :0 i know many people love to say it, even throwing the word "toxic" and "abusive" into the room because they're the new overused trend words but damn... are y'all fr or is that mostly just the buddie shippers blindly hating on the ship and taylor? i have not seen any good receipts for these accusations either, they are just mentioned as if it's a fact and everybody must accept that interpretation. i feel like i've watched a completely different show sdkjslks somebody pls tell me exactly when and where they were supposedly acting so badly that this is considered canon
it's been a while since I've seen the episodes when they've been together so take ALL of this for a grain because I don't know how well I'm remembering but:
there was very much an imbalance for supporting each other and generally Being There For Each Other tbh. like of course they cared about each other but an instance I remember specifically is when buck is having a rough time because of deep-seated traumas from his childhood and taylor says something like "you're so needy" and vice versa when buck wouldn't support taylor's career despite knowing how important it was to her. idk idk those are the only examples I remember outright but I definitely remember being fascinated by how dysfunctional they were my first time watching the show so idk.
I definitely wouldn't say it was abusive or toxic because I think those are fairly strong words that are often taken out of context. I think it was just a classic example of their personalities and morals not really lining up and thus causing conflict that kinda enforces each other's worst traits. idk
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kitkatpancakestack · 2 years
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I'm glad you mentioned Buzzfeed quizzes, we all know it's true science. Buck is going to take a "tell me how you like to eat your eggs and we'll tell you if your relationship is going to last" test and when the answer is no, he'll think, that's it, time to pack it up and move on.
Buck: hey, Taylor, do you consider yourself a scrambled egg kind of girl, or are you more of a sunny-side up kind of person?
Taylor: actually I don't even like eggs, why?
Buck, discreetly boxing up his belongings: no reason
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lovecolibri · 1 year
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SaL anon here bestie and I'm afraid it's time. It was bound to happen at some point during the hiatus, but I feel like now that it's here we should rip the bandaid off and talk about all the reasons the sperm donor arc is some if the stupidest shit I've ever seen. So let's start with what really pissed me off this week which is KR's comments about this storyline. Can't remember the exact quote but something like "Buck needs to be happy with himself, figure out what he wants, it's important to
do that before being happy in a relationship, blah, blah, blah" to which I thought "Why indeed KR this is true which is exactly why WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN LAST YEAR WITH THE WHOLE TAYLOR RELATIONSHIP!!" This is exactly how that story was set up, constantly showing Buck's misery, his half-hearted ily, the chance to realize he needs more than just a person that doesn't leave to be happy. And absolutely nothing came of it. We spent a whole season with this BS only to have it end with no growth for Buck. And NOW you think it's time to address this 🙄🙄🙄??!! Also this leads into my second bitchy observation. Part of the appeal of having a break up growth arc was it was relatable. Maybe we haven't all experienced it but I'd argue most people can relate to the idea of leaving (or being left) a relationship that isn't bad but isn't what you want. Eddie's breakdown arc last season was relatable, not because we all know what PTSD like but we can all appreciate the idea of bottling up hurt and pain because we don't want to face it or keep a brave face for those we love. What exactly am I supposed to be connecting to with this donor BS?? We all don't have an innate desire to have kids, or do a big favor for a sorta friend we once knew. I have a complete emotional disconnect from this storyline and don't see that changing. So next let's talk about how fucking illogical every part of this story is (on a side note I laughed at the fans out-googling the 911 writers on so many things, reminds me of my science RNM  science sin compilations). Anyway, just why would anyone approach their friend they barely keep contact with to do this particular favor (maybe they explained but honestly I've blocked so many of those scenes from my long term memory)?? Why not a close friend (or relative even)? If you're going for emotional distance why not just an anonymous donor? The whole premise feels so contrived. Probably gotta leave it here for now since I'm getting sleepy. But i'm not close to being done (i'm not even done with this one point) so i hope ypu're ready for more of an inbox full later. Feel free to respond to what I do have because honestly bestie, this may take awhile.
My friend, as always your thoughts are perfectly on point! First, YES that growth was what SHOULD have come out of Buck having a relationship where he recognized he was clinging to something that wasn’t fulfilling for him and being the one to call it quits. But with the cheating added into the mix and then the Jonah mess, Buck didn’t end the relationship on “his” terms, he was pushed by her actions and needing to protect his friends. And ya know what? It might have worked if they had it end in 5a, and then spent 5b with Buck figuring out how to be happy with himself and what he wants. Also, what TF was 5x18 if not TWO instances of it being stated what Buck wants?! First with the Maddie “isn’t that what love is?” conversation and then the firefam “someone to have your back” conversation. 
ANYWAY, fine, Buck still needs to learn what the key to happiness is, but please tell me why after how much we had to suffer through that BT mess, we are having yet another season of Buck clinging to something that isn’t right for him and won’t make him happy, just because he thinks doing something to make someone else happy is important even if it hurts him. If the WHOLE point of the BT mess was showing Buck being a “settler” and a “clinger” then why are we right back in the same place with him settling for being a donor not a dad, and clinging on to this couple like he’s going to be ‘fun uncle Buck”? You KNOW that couple isn’t going to want a constant reminder of how they “failed” to make a baby “on their own”, or risk their kid (or Buck) getting too attached. Not to mention how awkward it would be for them to explain their sperm donor just being around all the time. Also what was the point of Hen asking if he could have a child out there and walk away, if he can JUST be a donor and nothing more, if the storyline is showing him constantly acting like he’s going to be fulling involved in this kids life? How is ANY of this helping Buck figure out how to be happy with himself when he’s still putting himself and his needs behind other people’s who are using him for parts? What happened to him figuring out the right “couch” and how to be “at ease” and Lev’s death being something that hit him super hard and made him start thinking about his life? Because all of that got abandoned in favor of this soap opera level pointless “drama”. Thanks, I hate it.
As far as connecting to the storyline, I don’t even think it’s just about some people not wanting kids and therefore not being able to connect, it’s about the way this story is being told. Because you’re right, even people without war-related PTSD could relate or at least emotionally connect to Eddie’s arc. But with Buck, we aren’t given enough/consistent info about his thoughts and feelings to connect with! He seems unsure when he talks to Hen and that “donor not dad” line really seemed to throw him for a loop. So the audience was prepared to see him struggle with this decision a bit, maybe saying “let me think about it” and then an episode or 2 later (after some interactions with a call and/or Eddie/Chris, or Maddie (and maybe Jee) make him re-evaluate things), he tells them no, because he’s realized he can’t just donate and walk away. (Even weighty arcs like the lawsuit and Eddie’s fighting arc only lasted a couple episodes so this would be easy to wrap up within the confines of 6a) Instead he says “yes” immediately without talking to Eddie, Maddie, or Bobby or taking into real account what Hen said. Okay, fine, so he’s said yes, now it’s time for the family history to come into play or a talk with Eddie or Maddie or Bobby right?! Wrong! It’s time to forget about it for a month! Then, when it finally comes back, it’s got two conflicting things happening at once. Thing one: It’s all a big joke! Buck is telling Hen about his masturbation habits (which as everyone has pointed out is actually NOT what you should do which Buck would know if he was doing all that research on what to eat and everything, but that would require the WRITERS to do that research and OPP! Either they didn’t bother, or decided this was “funnier” than the facts 🙄). Buck is getting cock-blocked by the sperm bank! Buck’s firefam is eavesdropping on the reveal when Buck get’s accosted at work and they get caught staring! How funny is that?! (🙄🙄🙄 NOT actually funny but of course it’s never addressed) But then we have thing two. Which is the fact that despite the writing playing this off as a joke, they’re also making sure Buck isn’t telling anyone besides Hen, and makes it clear he doesn’t want her to tell anyone else. Why not? Why would Buck keep this a secret from his sister that he always goes to for a listening ear? From his best friend who isn’t afraid to give him tough talks when he needs them? From his father figure whose advice he respects? The answer if this was in an earlier season with better writing would be that he knows he’s not making the right choice and isn’t ready to confront the truth. But we don’t get any indication of that either! Just Buck desperate to do his donation, apologetic to the couple when he can’t get it done and doubling down on his commitment and excitement to do this for them, and a continued joy in the whole thing, with no indication that anyone is gearing up for a big talk with him. So why was Buck sooo desperate to not let anyone know? The audience is being given two different messages at the same time! Buck is super excited about doing this in his words, and Buck is also super concerned about the people closest to him finding out that he’s doing this in his actions. But since we don’t see him expressing that worry, and we don’t see the team expressing any worry behind his back about it, the audience doesn’t know how they are supposed to be emotionally connecting to this story. I know you’ve got another ask planed on how we’re past the point of being able to satisfyingly wrap up this arc now that a baby has been made so I’ll save some rant for that, but just focused on what we have seen, the arc doesn’t make any sense on what Buck is truly feeling and therefore what the audience should be connecting to within the storyline. 
As for why they asked Buck, his buddy said it was because Buck was a good, kind, selfless person and you can’t tell that from a genetics facts sheet at the sperm bank. Which is....a) grossly manipulative, especially for someone like Buck which dude HAD to know, and b) isn’t even a tiny bit factually true! Yes kids have their own personalities and what they like and enjoy may not always line up with what their parents do, but your child being a good and kind person is sorta down to you teaching them to be good and kind. It isn’t going to just *happen* because of “genetics”. My guess is they approached him because he IS good and kind and they figured he would say yes, with the added bonus of him being a physically healthy person with on the surface level, probably “good” genetics.
Anyway, I tried to give this storyline a chance, just like I did with the impending BT breakup, but just like last season, it’s reached a point where pretty much whatever they do is going to result in Buck being the “victim” again and being the one to be “left behind” instead of being able to make the choice himself to leave a situation that isn’t good for him, meaning again, no real growth, and more of Buck being stuck having scenes and arcs entirely outside the firefam/his job. And as we saw with 4x14 and 99.9% of s5 and the BT relationship, KR doesn’t like anyone in the firefam being involved in Buck’s personal arcs. (Probably because if they WERE, he might actually learn something and be able to grow a little and we just can’t have that.)
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wikiangela · 11 months
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would you rather have taylor kelly come back full time or have buck quit firefighting and realize his true destiny is to become a stuntman in c-list movies
ooh, this is a hard one lol
okay, just because I love firefighter Buck and this is his destiny, lol, and this is gonna be an unpopular opinion for sure - despite all her faults, taylor was entertaining (and I'll never pass on an opportunity to have a gorgeous woman on my screen to stare at sns lmao)
so, my answer is taylor sns 😬 (as long as they don't put her in any romantic situationship with Buck again, friends at most 😂)
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trashendence · 2 years
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How to explain someone that watches the show casually the cheating storyline? Someone that doesn't analyze Buck? Just watches the show every Monday
I personally didn't like it. I still see a lot of plot holes. At first I thought Taylor knew about Lucy, they I thought maybe she doesn't? (There's no way to know for sure since they didn't explicitly said it, we can only guess)
So what was the point of having her talk to Lucy? If they never brought it again. I get that she was clinging too, but if she knew, why won't she said it when they were breaking up? When there was nothing left to cling? I know old Taylor would've said something.
If they were going to create a cheating arc, do it right. Commit to it, dont do it halfway through. They were going to break up anyway, might as well make that scene as messy as possible (since she talked about the mess) the scene in question was a big let down for me. Eddiana's>>>BT 100%
I personally wanted to see Buck acknowledging his mistakes. Instead I saw him making fun of the situation.
I'm rambling sorry lol
hello!
(sorry it took me so long but i was at pride so i’m justified i think🌈)
i understand what you’re saying but i don’t agree and here are my two cents on it (under the cut to save everyone’s day):
i don’t think the cheating storyline has to be explained, that’s one thing i really like about it. it shows and doesn’t tell (not the real root cause of why it happened, anyway). the casual viewer can akcnowledge it as bt not being strong as they thought they were, buck having so many mixed feelings about his relationship he kisses someone else one night and asks his girlfriend to move in the next, and taylor and buck being on two completely different tracks. leaving out those who demonize buck for cheating (i get not supporting the act of cheating, but perfect characters are imperfect), i think the casual viewer would be absolutely correct in this thought process.
from those of us who are Normal about the show, instead, i expect a more informed and nuanced opinion. which, as i said multiple times, can obviously be that the cheating bit was unnecessary - i fully respect that, especially if it’s backed up by some reasoning.
regarding taylor knowing/not knowing about lucy, i think it was very heteronormative of her to assume buck’s new colleague is the one she should worry about. but it still showed she knows buck up to a certain level and then still manages to miss the point entirely. it was neat, it was taylor defending her territory and fighting windmills while buck and eddie quietly talked in the bg - storm and calm, and buck choosing a safe space in the post-fire at dispatch situation.
here the interesting bits the cheating arc brought to us that we may would have missed otherwise:
buck opening his confession by saying ‘i kissed someone’ and adding only a moment later that this ‘someone’ is a woman. imo, that was Interesting.
taylor being ready to forgive and forget as long as she was sure it meant nothing, as long as it was a ‘random girl in a bar’ and not someone buck actually cared about. which was interesting to see play out right after taylor realized it was lucy buck kissed - someone in the 118 - and still tried to prove that she (taylor) was the one who knew him best. that she was the one who came right after his circle of meaningful relationships, not lucy.
taylor making buck promise there wouldn’t be any more lies between them just to explicitly lie to him, what, three episodes later? different priorities, different goals, too different people.
buck and taylor living together. arguably, buck asked taylor to live with him out of guilt and fear that arose because of the kiss. this sets a precise way of looking at them living together right away. it also served the jonah storyline perfectly, cutting times and scenes where there was, admittedly, no space to look more into how exactly taylor’s betrayal started taking shape.
lucy, as much as some people may not like to hear this, is here to stay. this means that the kiss was 50% a way to introduce her character and, thankfully, portray more than the usual LI mary sue.
i also think that taylor not bringing up the kiss during the breakup was actually smart; the last crack wasn’t the kiss. think of the kiss as a symptom and the fundamental differences between these two people as the cause. ‘it’s our first argument all over again’, aka this is why we’re breaking up. i genuinely think taylor forgave buck for cheating and his loyalty was never doubted again. taylor chose their relationship despite the cheating. so it speaks volumes that buck couldn’t return the favor, could not bring himself to forgive and choose their relationship despite what she did.
i was never a big fan of ‘having a messy bt breakup’, simply because buck needed to make a mature choice and he also needed for his relationship to end on his own terms (for once). the relief we can see on his face when taylor leaves is worth a thousand screams, it’s really the beginning of a clean slate. that’s where the levity you probably didn’t like (rightfully so!) came from. it’s just how it’s always been; buck talking about his relationship problems with taylor with a big smile on, it’s nothing new and it happened before the kiss with lucy, too.
(the majesty that was the eddiana breakup is something that has its own long list of implications but, ultimately, i wouldn’t compare them. they’re relevant and you can certainly find some parallels, but they’re not the same.)
thank you for the questions and for being respectful!💕
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matan4il · 1 year
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One thing I have been ever grateful for is we didn't see boyfriend Buck for Ally or Taylor like he was for Abby. Like I may have had a huge disdain for how Abby treated him, but I loved him in that mode. I can't wait to see him just charm and overwhelm Eddie who so deserves to be daily swooned. Like I want Chim getting annoyed because Maddie is like "why don't you write love notes in my lunch".
Anyways so married gifts... In my head I feel like Buck is the husband that buys the cute stuff you don't need. Like every Sunday he buys Eddie flowers. Eddie of course rolls his eyes and complains flowers just die Buck. But he waters it every mid-week to keep them alive and his morning coffee with them every day to stare at them fondly. And Eddie is true practical husband. Like when he hops in the jeep he always fills up the gas tank for Buck, or if he noticed he needed gardening gloves suddenly they are just there with no fan fare.
What's your opinion on their husbandly love languages?
Nonnie, I could not agree with you more! It was lovely to see Buck so invested in a relationship, even though Abby's treatment of him made it (especially in re-watches) quite heartbreaking. I'm glad we never had to see him doing the same for women who were clearly always going to be a fleeting chapter in his life, as significant as learning from these relationships is for Buck.
And I'm with you, I can't wait to see that side of him once again when he's with Eddie! I agree with you. Buck is the guy who smiles softly to himself when he sees a way to spoil Eddie and make his life more pleasant even when, especially when, it's not needed from a practical POV. Those nice things are the ones that Eddie has been denying himself for years, and Buck making these gestures would add so much needed softness to his life, and would mean so much more because it's such a statement of love. Meanwhile, Eddie would be the one whose love is expressed through paying attention to what Buck needs and isn't always good at getting for himself. In fact, I'm so convinced of this, I even wrote a small drabble about this once, Forever Hold Your Peace.
Thank you so much for sharing these insights and headcanons with us, lovely! I hope you have a great day. As always, my ask tag. xoxox
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loveyourownsmiilee · 2 years
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I just want Buck to put his entire heart and soul into this fucking breakup. I want him red in the face, angry tears falling down his face, screaming at how she never changed. I want the messiest fucking breakup so bad. I think it’ll be truly therapeutic for both Buck and us 😌
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littlerosetrove · 2 years
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Taylor to Lucy: "But to Buck, they are his family."
Taylor does get Buck. She knows his family is the 118. She's telling that to Lucy because, seasoned firefighter or not, Lucy is new to the 118 dynamics. That's literally referenced in this ep when Buck asks why is Bobby going in and Eddie replies, "May's still inside." Buck is worried—both for May and his dad Cap—and Lucy watches the exchange, not getting why this person named May being inside warrants so much worrying. Bobby's the captain so he can handle himself, right? But then Eddie tells her she's missing family history: Bobby's relation to fire + kids (also i doubt Lucy knows May is Bobby's kid), Bobby's radiation scare + what it could mean today if something happens, etc.
Basically, Taylor knows Buck. She says something like, "When the 118 falls apart, Buck does too," and that's not just something you can guess. She would have had to be present for these breakdowns and then care enough to connect the dots. He's a firefighter, the job's not easy, of course he's going to fall apart sometimes, but Taylor noticed a pattern and she's telling Lucy about it.
I get why people hate Taylor. It's because of that first episode where she came and was ready to jeopardize the 118's lives just for the sake of some views on her news. But the thing is, she's developed as a character too. People simply refuse to see it. She's not a 2D character anymore, we know more about her, but people hate her so much already they won't let go of their pre-conceived notions. But like, she's trying to be better. To be good. She saw Lucy and Buck standing together and she didn't go all "gotta make sure she stays away from my man", instead she went all "gotta make sure she doesn't fuck up the 118 dynamics because buck's not ready for it." Because she watched them come out too—the 118 full team shot + May she was having filmed? Yeah, that included Lucy too, and she was the only one that didn't make sense because she's a new addition. But the show creators didn't crop her out, they kept her in. And Taylor saw that, the way Lucy was with the 118 and she knows the dynamics are changing again. So I guess, this was Taylor's way of telling her to simply stick to her lane. Which, okay, did serve two purposes.
I’ll be honest, I started replying to this message, but it was taking too long to fully get my thoughts out and so I’m going to try to keep it brief. Therefore, I know not everything will be fully clear, but here we are.
Taylor gets Buck to a degree, but that’s it. Generally speaking she has never nor will ever 100% understand Buck. Neither one fully understands each other because they fundamentally do not work together. This fact cannot be argued.
There was a lot of nuance and multiple meanings happening with the entire Lucy and Taylor scene, especially with Taylor’s speech.
Taylor is currently and clearly feeling insecure, unsure, and even a bit angry with Buck and their relationship. Taylor feels threatened, and I don’t think Taylor fully understands where the threat is coming from. Taylor may have some grasp on how important Eddie (and Chris) is to Buck, but I think right now TK is dismissive of Eddie being the actual threat because TK has a very heteronormative mindset. Instead, a close option for Taylor to direct her insecurities is at an innocent Lucy, a woman. Check out this post originally by fiona-fififi that explains how Lucy is a red herring in the show.
Taylor is a strange character. Is she barely a character the way Ana was? No, but I still wouldn’t ever call Taylor a fully developed character, cause she’s not. She’s inconsistent. And given what we know now, the show has never tried to redeem Taylor’s character. Even when she “tries to do good” it’s often a misstep, especially when it comes to Buck.
Taylor had multiple reasons for confronting Lucy the way she did, one of them absolutely being in a “stay away from Buck because that’s my man.” Sure, Taylor may be trying to protect Buck to a degree, but you can’t convince me that was her biggest reason for saying and doing what she did.
Look, your message came across as if you’re trying to get me to see the good in Taylor? I’m not trying to be aggressive here, I promise, but I don’t know what to tell you beyond I’m never going to like Taylor Kelly. Do I think she’s Super Bad Evil? No. But I don’t think she’s a good person either. I preferred her being a one off villain in 2x6. Even with the “development” she’s had up through 5x16, she’s still unlikeable to me and uninteresting. I will not miss her when she’s finally gone.
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likeshipsonthesea · 2 years
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does anyone else find taylor’s character to just be like.. horribly inconsistent? like not even determining whether or not she’s “good” or “bad” or whatever, but like.. we’ve gotten such weird mixed motivations from her?
like the whole thing with her dad and “the truth is everything” and her wanting to expose the truth because she never got the truth about that situation, but instead of doing it in like a private-eye kind of way, she wants to expose the truth to the masses in the exact way that cost her her normalcy growing up, like the reporters and everyone knowing who she was was horrible and yet that’s the avenue to truth she pursued?
and then with the whole “you didn’t need to tell me” thing about buck’s infidelity, like. how is the woman who literally ten episodes ago said “the truth is everything” going to be like i didn’t need to know the truth?
and now with the jonah storyline, her immediate defense when buck asks what she’s doing is “it’s fascinating” (which, like. chilling honestly) which doesn’t sound to me like “i need to put the truth out there to protect people” it seems like “this is a story that could fast forward my career bc it’s interesting.” which is imo in line with season 2 taylor, using the helicopter crash and the 118 story to put her face out there, but seems very inconsistent with the image of “i just want to share the truth” they’ve been peddling this season
idk i don’t mean any of this as criticism of the actress or even taylor really, it’s just that the way they’ve written her character this season just seems so haphazard and confused? like, is she the career-driven independent woman who will stop at almost nothing to advance her career, or is she the woman just looking for truth because she never got closure herself, or is she purposefully unmasking mystery to the masses in some kind of weird vengeance for how her own story was made public and ruined her life?
i would just like some consistency idk
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stagefoureddiediaz · 2 years
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It's the fact she not only broke her promise(though I think she say she promised not to tun before his arrest etc) but she actively still lying and working on it because she wouldn't get his photo etc that quick but also rather then be for buck for fmwily wre nearly mrudered she deiced to report on it as they were going to hospital.
Oh Nonnie
the more I think on Taylor the more I hate her and everything she stands for - and I really didn't think my hate for her had space left to grow and its making me somewhat inarticulate!
She is just truly so unlikeable - not one redeeming feature and I will remain eternally baffled that Buck ever saw anything in her! Poor Buck - so messed up from his childhood and never feeling wanted that he has sacrificed nearly his whole self to her and to a relationship that is slowly destroying him piece by piece. Buck is going to blame himself for all of the fallout for this - Bobby said the line in this episode about Jonah 'I let him into my house' but Buck will be thinking and feeling the same thing - he trusted her, and he let her into his life, into the firefam's life, he defended her and she betrayed him in the way that would hurt him the most - she is cold and calculating and knew exactly what she was doing. She claims to love him - you don't treat someone you love that way - ever!
Season 6 is going to be Buck's breakdown - one that has been a long time coming and he is going to have to rebuild himself. It's going to be brutal to watch, but so good for him. And he will have Eddie, Maddie and the firefam to help. Hell maybe we'll see Buck and Bobby supporting each other through their respective recoveries - it would be beautiful to see them heal together - really reenforce the father -son bond they have going on!
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Hi T question for you, did you interpret Buck telling Lucy "I'm just glad you weren't with him" as romantic, I've seen some recappers say that was a very weird and confusing line because it if was romantic it was not earned and based on what we've seen of BL they are the farthest thing from romantic and barely even friends but that was the moment Taylor witnessed which made her go psycho. Do you think that's the point that what Taylor is witnessing is not the truth?
Yes!
The line itself isn’t inherently romantic unless you’ve got your het brain activated. “I’m just glad you weren’t with him.” was Buck’s relief that a second member of the 118, a member of his family (because regardless of what any of us think about L’s place with the team, we know how Buck feels - he’d risk his life for any one of them), wasn’t trapped in the debris.
And we can simplify it even further if you want:
If she was trapped under there with Bobby and May, would anyone have found them? Buck’s words were an acknowledgment that L was able to make the mayday call because she “wasn’t with him”.
The thing we need to remember about TayKay is that she was observing their interaction from a distance. She couldn’t have heard what Buck said. All she saw was her boyfriend allowing himself to be reassured by his coworker and not her. Because that coworker is now part of his family.
As hard as TayKay tries to build a future with Buck and insert herself into small moments with the 118, she’s never been one of them, has she? She has continually been on the outside looking in (ha) because first responders don’t like news reporters sticking their noses where they don’t belong. The two worlds are not compatible unless both sides put in the effort required to make it work. Some might say TayKay is doing her best considering she’s never been a commitment type of gal, but is Buck? 🤔 [Hint: NO!]
Even if the BL scenes remained, Buck was always going to have to admit that L (or any other woman) isn’t the problem. He was always going to have to admit that he knew he didn’t want to stay with her long before he cheated.
TayKay wants to believe L is the person standing in the way of her happiness, but she’s wrong. Buck is.
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