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dailybrandonrogers · 3 months
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Does Blame the Hero Still Occur in The Current Timeline?
In the most surmised form, the events of Blame the Hero can be summarised as followed: in 2033, Blame purchases and uses a time machine. A series of subsequent events occur, and the time machine ultimately ends up in the hands of Abraham Lincoln, who now resides in the late 1970s.
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The short answer is that I believe the events of BtH are doomed to occur over and over again in an infinite cycle WITHIN The Original Timeline. I believe that every single instance of The Original Timeline existing always leads to The Current Timeline. However, I do not believe the events of BtH occur in The Current Timeline. This may seem quite obvious at first, but there are some sub-events that make the situation quite nuanced. Here's an excerpt from this post that contains some initial thoughts of this idea.
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Firstly, let's account for the perspectives of the three iterations of Sebastian/Blame/Grandpa.
As I've established by now, I am a huge truther for Stuff & Sam occuring in The Elmer Revolution Timeline, just 15 years before the actual revolution begins in 2033. This is where the 2018 iteration of Blame comes in; yes he was initially from 2033, but he decides to stay in the year 2018 after encountering another version (Main Character Blame, who later becomes Grandpa) of his 2033 self. The important takeaway from this is that Current Blame is fully aware of time travel and it's implications, but decides against getting his tattoo changed in favour of re-living his life all over again in the year 2018, and gives his time machine to Main Character Blame. Current Blame is going to continue to age, and be 38 in the year 2033. He will have no incentive to repeat his past actions; meaning, he won't buy a time machine again and travel back in time and do those actions all over again.
Sebastian Hernandez on the other hand will grow up to be 22yros in 2033. Hold this thought for a second.
Remember: MC Blame (Grandpa) is from The Original Timeline, whereas Current Blame is from The Lincoln Lives Timeline.
So we know how MC Blame ends up in The Current Timeline as Grandpa, but how does Current Blame residing in The Elmer Revolution Timeline still end up also in The Current Timeline? Well, we've gotta remember that every single Timeline is operating off the Canon of the one that came immediately before it; they are NOT variations of The Old Timeline.
Let's also account for what happens to the time machines across the story too.
In ADATB and Episode 1 of BtH, Main Character Blame uses his time machine to travel back to 2018. Although it initially gets lost, eventually used by the Mingeworthies to travel to 1865, used by Delores Cowpussy to return to 2018, it ultimately finds its way back to him when he mugs Helen Brownstein and successfully convinces his younger self to get a different tattoo. In episode 5 of BtH, he loses the time machine again (this time in The Abraham Lincoln Lives Timeline) prompting that aforementioned cycle to also occur in this timeline too. He hopes to retrieve it from the Mingeworthies before they travel to 1865 this time, and although he's successful, that time machine is broken.
Current Blame, coming from The Abraham Lincoln Lives Timeline with his own time machine, drops it in the tattoo shop whilst brawling with MC Blame. This is what allows Tattoo Shop/Eldest Elmer to do his whole 1942 endeavour and create plans for The Elmer Revolution. Elmer returns the time machine to Blame, and this is the time machine that is utilised for the rest of the story until it ends up in the hands of a pensive Abraham Lincoln in The Current Timeline in the late 1970s.
Unfortunately, we're gonna need a very stark detour here but I promise it's necessary.
Starting chronologically in the year 1942, what changes to the framework of the canon occur in The Current Timeline?
Grandpa exists. He meets Clarissa, and has his daughter Kathy with her. He also meets Donna, and his son Elmer with her too.
Sometime in the late 1970s, Abraham Lincoln and Hitler randomly appear mid-brawl in an elementary school one day while Bryce Tankthrust is confessing her love to Bobby Best. Hitler drops a book, which Bryce retrieves, and decides to run away with Bobby and have a happily ever after with him. Yes, Bobby is sent to an orphanage for the rest of his adolescence, but the two of them eventually reunite in their early 20s. Bobby never goes to prison, never swears revenge against Bryce, and never has the motive to nuke the entire planet in the year 2033.
The Mingeworthies lives are relatively similar in The Old Timeline vs The New Timeline until 2016. This time, Bryce Tankthrust is now president instead of Donald Trump between the years 2016 - 2020. They never end up adopting/stealing Cockwaddle from Jurgen Klausvonschwitz, who instead grows up normally with his father.
The point of denoting these changes relates to a simple question: would Sebastian Hernandez (then Blame) in the year 2033 want to get his tattoo changed? We know he still gets the gang sign.
Here are the two schools of thought:
Yes, Sebastian Hernandez in The Current Timeline decides to change his tattoo.
Sebastian would purchase the time machine off of Craigslist and travel back to the year 2018. He would lose it again, as that particular plotpoint has no reason not to still occur. Whether it would end up in the hands of the Mingeworthies is debatable, and I considered exploring the possibility that is does, but without Cockwaddle I don't believe they'd have any reason to be at the beach on August 3rd 2018. Moreover, Jurgen would have no incentive himself to want to travel back in time to figure out the kidnappers of his child, as Cockwaddle was never kidnapped. MOREOVER, Cockwaddle himself would not travel back in time now, because the whole "that date" situation relating to his kidnapping/being forcibly disabled no longer happens whatsoever. Therefore, the scientist would never be shot nor come to the beach on August 3rd whatsoever, meaning he doesn't take the time machine from Dick Flicker, which means the Mingeworthies have nobody to steal it from in the first place. I think it would be extremely funny if Dick Flicker DID actually "sell that piece of crap on eBay," but I'll get to that in a moment.
This particular theory, although semi-outlandish, does have a few pros.
It would explain why there's a Blame (22yros) in The Current Timeline in the year 2018 and onwards without demanding an explanation of how Current Blame in The Elmer Revolution Timeline translates over to The Current Timeline too.
Under the assumption that This Blame's time machine was sold on eBay, he is left stranded with no way to return home to 2033. However, it also means that Tattoo Shop/Eldest Elmer never learns about time travel, which means he never makes plans for The Elmer Revolution, so that never takes place either.
It provides some clean conclusions on certain events definitely not happening, essentially making The Current Timeline a fixed timeline. While I love this theory for this reason, the next one does have a bit more weight to it imo.
No, Sebastian Hernandez in The Current Timeline does not change his tattoo.
In Episode 7 of BtH, (also The New Timeline if you wanna keep track, albeit in an extremely newborn/beta version) Hitler is murdered by Bobby Worst in the late 1970s before Hitler gets the opportunity to even invent a time machine this time. Yes, Abraham Lincoln still has THE time machine, but it's arguable that Sebastian Hernandez in 2033 would never be able to buy a time machine off of Craigslist in the first place. There is the assumption that the time machine Lincoln has IS the one that eventually ends up on Craigslist though, in which case this is the catalyst for the above theory occuring; that's how Sebastian would obtain the time machine in the aforementioned theory. In this theory we do not have to worry about time travel being involved in ADATB in The Current Timeline at all, which makes things infinitely simpler. It still explains why the Elmer Revolution never occurs, but we'd still need an explanation for how Current Blame transfers to The Current Timeline.
My theory for this? TBD!
All of this to say that The Current Timeline essentially becomes a fixed timeline after the events of BtH. The events of BtH don't need to happen in this timeline, but they also physically cannot happen no matter what forces try to intervene.
So what implications does this have? I will go more in detail in a specific post, but it primarily relates to the events of Stuff & Sam in The Current Timeline, funny enough. The BRYCE finale gave us quite a bit to work with regarding the Elmer cloning hearts stuff, and also the factoid that S&S allegedly occurs BEFORE 2016 now... in this timeline. I will make a post in the future detailing a revised version of S&S that contains what I believe to happen in an amended canon compliant to the current timeline way.
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The Batkids all dress up as different Brandon Rogers characters for Halloween/a con.
Dick: Cathy
Jason: Grandpa
Steph: Bobby Worst
Tim: Bryce Tankthrust
Duke: Sam
Cass: Donna Phitts
Damian: Elmer
They convince Bruce and Selina to go as Lord and Lady Mingeworthy.
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bejeweled-wahlberg · 7 months
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⚠️cuss warning and Güñ warning⚠️
Idefk why I made this
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gaebrial · 2 months
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thinking about gabriel plopped into helluva boss and how much they’d get along with moxxie 🥺🥺🥺
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momonica05 · 1 year
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ATTENTION: ALL BRANDON ROGERS FANS!
I'm making a series retrospective of all his main content! So far I've written the first video and I'm very happy with the result! So, if you want a retrospective before the Bryce series or if you want to show his content I hope this video will help you!
This first one will be focused on A Day at the Park, so it will go since his first video (the "Meet Grandpa =)") to the special. I will post it here once I'm done
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clarelikesitall · 2 years
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Can we talk about how Blame is legit Cathy’s dad? And how Elmer is possibly Blames son too? Think about the ramifications.
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polgara6 · 6 months
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BRCU ships as Fairy Tales
Including Stoliz because I’m trash
Worstthrust- The Princess and the Frog (my sister depressed me by saying Donovan is Ray)
Blaisely- Rapunzel (Although if I were to write this, I would use the Tangled plot line. Blame is so Flynn Rider coded except you know more BRCU)
Caroluxy-Beauty and the Beast (which is which unclear!)
Stoliz-Cinderella (which is which is again unclear, I mean the Blitzø Stolas parallels are obvious but also Stolas sending birds to pluck out Stella and Andrealphus’s eyes is incredible)
Bladuke- The Snow Queen (not frozen! Although that also wouldn’t be half bad, here’s a link to a YouTube vid that sums up the story fairly well https://youtu.be/GJPwgGkGqAc?si=ogm794JHfJ0zGE83)
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Donna/George- Anastasia (come on amnesia! I know I know it’s more of a folktale than a fairytale, but come on)
Luxy/Flint (idk their ship name)- The Road to El Dorado (I know that’s a DreamWorks movie not a fairytale, but come on) no but seriously, Hansel and Gretel (little shit swindling their way out of dying is very them coded)
Mingworthy’s(or Adrian and Everly really)- The Little Mermaid (Adrian is Ariel)
Feel free to offer up more!
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mycatismyfriend · 2 years
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Because love is the most powerful thing exists.
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dailybrandonrogers · 1 year
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BRCU Timeline Ramble
I'm creating this as a reference point for any of the major events we have canon dates/time-frames for. I apologise that this will be very disjointed so I'd like to make an offical list eventually too.
Just for clarification, these are the timelines I'll be mentioning.
Pre-BtH Timeline - "Old/Original Timline"
The British Timeline
The Elmer Revolution Timeline
Post-BtH Timeline - "Current/New Timeline"
Bryce Tankthrust's Presidency
In the Post-BtH Timeline, we know that Bryce Tankthrust became president in the 2016 election (in BtH, a subtitle states that it was 2020, however this has been retconned and I stand firm with it being 2016 instead.) In the 2020 election, Bryce Tankthrust lost to Joe Biden, and the events of Madam Ex President ensue. From this, we know that Madam Ex President takes place after November 2020. Episode 3 of Normal British Series also corroborates that Bobby Worst was kidnapped after Bryce lost the election, meaning it's a safe assumption that Episode 5 and the non-flashback segments of Episode 4 take place in 2021.
In Normal British Series, we also find out that the Mingeworthies stole Queen Elizabeth II's ring in 2016, and Episodes 1 through to 3 before the 4-year timeskip all take place in 2016. Moreover, we can actually narrow this down to the Mingeworthies being well and truly British in Episode 1 by November 2020, as Bryce's election campaign advertisement specifically mentions "voting for me (Bryce) this November."
A Day At The Beach
We know A Day At The Beach takes place August 3rd, 2018 in the pre-BtH timeline, which is also mentioned in episode 5 of BtH (A Botched Beach (ABB)). Ep5 of BtH is the second time we see the events of ADATB, this time in "the British timeline" even though Blame technically arrived before the Mingeworthies could obtain the time machine, go back to 1865, and initiate the British timeline in the first place. This is gonna get really confusing, but now I'm going to talk about how this impacts all of Blame's iterations. To avoid further confusion, I'm going to refer to the collective setting of ADATB and ABB as simply "The Beach" and unless otherwise specified I'll be specifically referring to the depiction of the Beach in ABB.
Firstly, we have a good reference point to keep track of the two Blames seen at the beach:
The "main character" Blame who we've been following in BtH up until ABB has the colourful Jesus tattoo, while the "original" Blame who showed up to remove his tattoo still has the gang sign. Moreover, the "original Blame wears a chunky gold chain. I'll be referring to them as MC Blame and Original Blame respectively.
However, we also two versions of the time machine too: MC Blame's time machine, and Original Blame's time machine. The MC time machine gets smashed to bits by Lord Mingeworthy in ABB, forcing MC Blame to steal Original Blame's time machine. After ABB, the only time machine left in existence in the Original one.
In ABB, after some persuasion, the Original Blame comes to the conclusion that MC Blame needs the time machine more than he does, and decides to stay in 2018 to "get a second chance at life." This is the Blame that we see in Stuff & Sam, which occurs (chronologically) after the events Blame the Hero, as well as in any subsequent Brandon Rogers videos. At this point in ABB, MC Blame has already prevented the British timeline from occurring, and has allowed Tattoo Shop Elmer to become educated on the time machine's lore. This means that even before the Eldest Elmer has physically initiated the Elmer Revolution via nuclear b0mb in 2033, the "Elmer Revolution" timeline has already began. (Also note, Tattoo Shop Elmer and the Eldest Elmer are the same person in the most literal way possible.) I'm gonna go over everything to do with the Elmers in another post (likely after the next episode of BRYCE which will hopefully reveal some context and implications about what became of the Elmers in the post-BtH timeline) because figuring out how Stuff & Sam takes place after Blame the Hero despite it having explicitly pre-BtH events is gonna take a lot of brainpower.
We know that Sebastian Hernandez is the "real/correct" iteration of Blame that is meant to exist in 2018. He is canonically 7 in 2018, which means he was born in 2011. This also matches up with Blame's age, who is 22 in 2033. Due to the time travel Debacle, the Original Blame is also 22 in 2018. MC Blame is the one who goes on to become Grandpa, as MC Blame is ALSO 22 in 1942 (as indicated by the title cards in episode 6 of BtH). It is Donna (in WW2) that gives Blame the new identity of George (aka Grandpa) after serving his extensive head trauma. Physically, Grandpa would be 96 in ATATB in 2018. However, now we unfortunately need an explanation for how he was around in pre-BtH timeline. The same could technically be said for the depiction of Blame in "Thug got Secrets," however there's nothing in that video that disproves it taking place in 2033, right before Blame purchases the time machine. This is definitely a headcanon for the sake of simplicity, but I think it make enough sense as an easy explanation. At this point, MC and Original Blame would essentially be one in the same person, but if you wanted to be very specific, you could say TGS Blame is MC Blame.
Thank you so much if you read all that, let me know if there's something I left out an alternative explanation for anything! I love to hear other perspectives on the timelines.
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ineffableelogann · 2 years
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I wonder what would’ve happened if Helen had the brain to go back to the fight between Her and George, when she had the time machine, and made sure she’d win..
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bejeweled-wahlberg · 6 months
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POV: Henry attacking Zach after Zach said “Wild Ratts”
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Henry-Blitzø
Zach-Grandpa
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officermaddie23 · 5 months
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Peepaw Afton at Christmas
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liulith · 1 month
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Helluva boss fanimatics, animations and parodies 🥰
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Backroads (Opening animatic) by Prim (Imp OC)
Basically Helluva Boss (animated recap) by Toffye
Blitzø being Brandon Rogers for 1 minute and 37 seconds by Danaconunaene
Blitz can't be honest by Valy
Blitz explains his business strategy by Dark Crowl, misspanica1, YunanReigan
Blitz "Hates" Love by Artdoer @artdoer93
Blitz lies to himself by _anko
Blitz's incredibly epic bachelor party by Ayvee
Blitzø VS Grandpa by Brandon Rogers
Caffeine by Art of Rhues (Fizz & Ozzie)
Cheating is fun! by Fiventie (animatic by Danaconunaene) (Blitz, Stolas & Stella)
Chocolate by NoriTheLord (Blitz, Fizz, Alastor)
Cursing (Blitz as Brandon Rogers) by Joshiro_19
EVERYBODY DO THE FLOP 🎵 by 사리면&Sari (I.M.P)
Fizzarozzie waltz by Valy
Fizznapped by Tomotasauce (s2e6 parody)
goodbye horses 🎵by dwinni (circus flashback)
Goodbye 🎵by Cinnamon (full cast)
Greg & Rose dance by DaniDrawsVids
Helluva Boss Bloopers by @artdoer93
HELLUVA BOSS VS MURDER DRONES by Morø Productions
Hotel Felicidad 🎵 (Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel animatic w/ English subtitles) by Athena Fandubs and Yakko
I AM A MAN by NoriTheLord (Blitz & Fizz)
"Just Listen to Me" by Dark Crowl + dub by Paranoid DJ (6 minutes animatic taking place right after Ozzie's)
Lilo & Stitch scene by Valy (S2e1)
Mammon's Ladies by Cinnamon
Mini Cream by Prim (Robo Fizz)
Moxxie is angry by EmositeCC
Moxxie sneeze by Ky Bullock
Nothing's working out 🎵 by 사리면&Sari
OFFICE ISSUES by AnimatedMau (I.M.P)
Patchwork Staccato 🎵 by 黑貓
"Perfect crime" by Dark Crowl + dub by KovutgeVA | v2: Blitzø marries Stolas dub by Devy-D
PLAYGROUND 🎵by Austin Kalista (Loona & Via)
Pregnant Meme by @robocatrc (I.M.P)
RE: Cutie Honey OP parody by Art of Rhues @artofrhues
Sassin' a Clown (Fizzarozzie & Mammon)
Say my name 🎵 by Ghost Animations (Fizz & Octavia Goetia)
second meeting with Striker by Dark Crowl
Seikaku warukute sumimasen 🎵 by 黑貓
She is... 🎵 by EmositeCC
SHIT 🎵 by Prim (Blitzø)
Since you've been gone 🎵 by Cinnamon (HB & Hazbin Hotel cast)
Stolitz date movie by Miles Cooper
Sway 🎵 by Dark Crowl (Stolitz)
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS when... by @robocatrc (Blitz & Loona)
THAT'S WHAT I WANT (opening) 🎵 by Foxby
The good place never felt worse by Prim (Blitz & Cash)
The important conversation by Dark Crowler (Stolas & Paimon)
The Towel (Moxxie & the mafia)
The whole being dead thing 🎵 by Danaconunaene (Fizzarolli)
Travel-sized Crimson by Cinnamon
UNHAPPY CAMPERS epilogue fan animatic by EmikaPika (M&M)
Your stupid face 🎵by CrystalCalico
Who is more powerful: Alastor or Stolas? Hunicast animatic by Leaffy Bun
You're still here? Check out my other rec lists: Vox animatics, Alastor animatics
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danganronpafakes · 6 months
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Maki: Can you tell Amber to stop alerting me? I don't care about these missing kids.
Source: Brandon Rogers ("Grandpa Needs Help")
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