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dailybrandonrogers · 18 days
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A Summary of Bryce Tankthrust's Timelines within the BRCU
The intention of this post is to review all major events involving/centred on Bryce Tankthrust across the BRCU timelines. Following the conclusion of BRYCE, a lot of considerable changes have been made to the overall nature of the pre-BRYCE Timeline theory that have immense and confusing implications. This will be a hopefully more concise attempt at deciphering the current state of the Timeline by only investigating one character, albiet a very significant and important one, and how her personal life as played out so far to our understandings.
As always, here's my BRCU Timeline reference!
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Before the list commences, there's a few things that need to be explored.
Bryce Tankthrust's Birthday
Utilising her the publication date of the first video she featured in, her fanon birthday has been declared January 12th. Her birth year however, isn't as a clear anymore. The previous widely accepted assumption was 1971. This was initially inferred in Blame the Hero where in Episode 3, Bobby Worst mentions he is 7 years old. Later, there is a jumpcut that informs 40 years have passed, implying he is now 47 years old in the year 2033. However, the 1971 assumption operates under the impression that Bobby is 47 in the 2018, not 2033, throwing another spanner into the works. Otherwise, he'd be born in 1986.
Approaching this from a newer angle, Bryce is at least 10 when she meets Bobby, and 20 when she begins working for CallCo Phones. Utilising this logic, she has to be 20 or older by Episode 3, in which we see a 1990 NYE party being celebrated
The Current Timeline
Late 1960s
Bryce Tankthrust is born.
Bobby Worst is born.
Late 1970s
Bryce Tankthrust begins learning the Double Diva Diversion.
Bryce Tankthrust meets Bobby Worst at school. She cuts out her heart for him, and after a seemingly random and unprecedented interruption by Abraham Lincoln and Adolf Hitler, she grabs a dropped book about dictatorship and decides to run away with Bobby. Initially discarding the heart in a trash can, she retrieves it 20 minutes later.
Bobby Worst becomes an orphan after his father disowns him, and gets thrown into an orphanage.
Late 1980s
Bobby Worst is released from the orphanage at age 18.
Even Later 1980s
Bryce Tankthrust meets Donovan.
Bryce Tankthrust and Donovan begin seeing eachother.
Donovan dies after falling off a cliff.
Tammy Tankthrust is arrested and thrown in jail.
Bryce Tankthrust begins working at CallCo Phones
Bryce Tankthrust's heart (her own, that had been surgically reimplemented at age 10) fails. Gloria transplants an experimental mechanic heart into her; it is successful.
Bryce Tankthrust and Bobby Worst Reunite.
Bryce Tankthrust commissions Gloria to make a robotic reconstruction of Donovan.
After he was fatally injured by X, Bryce Tankthrust gives her heart to Donovan, so that he can perform surgery and give her his murder victim's heart.
Bryce Tankthrust murders the CEO of CallCo and his wife, and assumes his position as CEO of the company, now revamping it into Thankthrust Tellies.
1990
Bryce's heart (the one she got from the Accountant) fails, and she suffers cardiac arrest on New Years Eve.
Bryce Tankthrust moves offices.
Bobby Worst murders Delorio and the majority of Tankthrust Tellies' workforce and harvests their hearts to create a stockpile for Bryce. In the process, he undergoes a metamorphosis of sorts.
1990 - 1995
Bryce meets with the Angel Investment Firm, and declines their offer to take on 50% of her company.
Bryce Tankthrust rekindles with Gloria Goopty.
Bryce Tankthrust meets with the Angel Investment Firm again, and this time signs the contract with them.
Bryce Tankthrust moves offices again.
1996
Tammy Tankthrust is released from prison. Bryce and her mother also rekindle.
1996 - 2016
Bryce Tankthrust kidnaps the son of previous Tankthrust Enterprises employee Donna Phitts, and preserves his youth to make countless clones with hearts readily available for harvesting and utilising.
2020
Joe Biden wins the 2020 presidential election, and Bryce Tankthrust finishes her tenure as president of the United States of America.
2021
Joe Biden is inaugurated into office, and Bryce Tankthrust undermines the course of the election by initiating a capitol riot on January 6th.
News gets out that Bryce Tankthrust staged the incarceration of Bobby Worst when footage of the two of them conspiring is hacked and released to the public. As a result, all the stocks for her company plummet, and she is rendered bankrupt.
Queen Elizabeth II, who still holds a vendetta against Bryce, kidnaps Bobby Worst knowing it'll cause her significant grief and heartache.
Bryce Tankthrust and Donovan team up with the Mingeworthies to save Donovan, and defeat Queen Elizabeth II.
A heart begins growing inside of Bryce.
Bryce Tankthrust revitalises her company endeavours and continues business as per usual.
Bryce Tankthrust and Bobby Worst get married.
2023
The Angel Investment Firm terminate Bryce's contract upon learning she is no longer heartless. This also entails killing her directly consequently.
Bryce Tankthrust, Tammy Tankthrust, and Gloria Goopty initiate their contingency plan, and murder all the Angel Investors in a scheme involving Bobby Worst and Donovan.
Current Day.
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dailybrandonrogers · 11 months
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The BRCU Timelines - A Summary of the Core Overarching Plotline
Pre-BtH Timeline - "Old/Original Timline"
The British Timeline
The Elmer Revolution Timeline
Post-BtH Timeline - "New/Current Timeline"
(Coloured-coded in rainbow order to help remember the timeline occurring order; as in red comes before green, and so does the corresponding timelines, hope this helps!)
1920s - Donna Phitts is born
1971 - Bryce Tankthrust and Bobby Worst are born
2011 - Sebastian Hernandez is born
2018 - Sebastian Hernandez gets a gang sign tattooed on his left arm by the Eldest Elmer in order to continue hiding in his tattoo shop after running away from Helen Brownstein at the beach.
2033 - Blame (Sebastian Hernandez) buys a time machine off of Craigslist in order to travel back in time and tell his past self to change a gang sign tattoo he got as a seven year old. He loses the time machine upon arrival at the beach and after exchanging ownership several times the time machine ends up in the possession of Lord & Lady Mingeworthy, who travel back in time to the year 1865. In 1865, the Mingeworthies are forced to give the time machine to Lucious Cowpussy and Vivian Delongprix, trapping them in 1865. Lucious and Vivian use the time machine to return to 2018, where after exchanging further bouts of ownership returns to Blame, who finally tells his seven year old self to not get the gang sign. Thinking his plan has been a success, Blame returns to 2033 only to find that the displacement of the Mingeworthies from 2018 to 1865 has created a new timeline due to their interferance with historical events; the British timeline.
2033, 1865, 2018 - Blame goes on a fetch-quest through time and space that eventually prevents the Mingeworthies from possessing the time machine in the first place, whilst still allowing the Eldest Elmer (then, known as Tattoo Shop Elmer) to temporarily access the time machine and scheme with Hitler to create the Elmer Revolution timeline.
2018 - The original (non-main character) Blame who travelled back to 2018 to get his tattoo changed decides to hand over his time machine, and stay in 2018. This prompts the events of Stuff & Sam several months later.
2018/2019 - Stuff & Sam takes place in what is technically The Elmer Revolution timeline. However, The Elmer Revolution is not triggered until 15 years later in 2033 when Blame arrives back, allowing the Eldest Elmer to enact his nuke.
1942 - The new timeline is created after the death of Elmer in 1942. Thanks to "lime-a-dozen," whose reveal name is revealed to be Donna Phitts, Blame's life is spared after a near-fatal injury and he is subsequently given a new identity as a man named George. George remembers nothing of his past identity and goes on to live with severe cognitive impairment for the rest of his life.
1971 - Bryce Tankthrust and Bobby Worst were born.
1981 - Bryce Tankthrust meets and falls in love with Bobby Worst at school. Not wanting to be upstaged by another couple at school, she cuts out her heart as a love devotion to him. Abraham Lincoln and Hitler get into fight after being transported foward in time which prompts the revelation of Hitler being Bobby's grandfather. While this heart is later sewn back into her chest by her mortician neighbour, it's given a low chance of long-term viability and becomes a ticking time bomb.
1981 - Bobby Worst is thrown into an orphanage by Bryce's mother after being abandoned by his father, Coach Best, upon the publicisation that Bobby & Coach Best are direct descendants of Adolf Hitler.
1991 - Tammy Tankthrust is arrested and imprisoned for her crimes after calling her victim ugly.
1991 - Finally liberated from her mother, Bryce Tankthrust begins working at CallCo Phones after her involvement in the accidental death of her boyfriend, Donovan, who previously worked there.
1991 - Bryce Tankthrust reunites with Bobby Worst, who is working as an assistant for her boss's wife.
1991 - Bryce's heart transplant finally fails, and her colleague Gloria, a cellphone technician with a secret passion for cardiology, offers to test out a prototype robotic heart as a replacement on her.
1991 - Bryce Tankthrust convinces Gloria to build a robotic replica of her ex-boyfriend, Donovan, in order to temporarily carry out the Double Diva Diversion scheme and make some quick money before promising herself to stay on a legitimate money making career path.
1991 - Donovan murders a man while attempting to help Bryce with a scheme, leading another robot to identify him as dangerous and kill him. Bryce gives him her robotic heart to resurrect him, and leaves him cardiology books to perform a heart transplant on her using the stolen heart of the man Donovan initially killed.
1991 - After so much shit goes down at work, Bryce Tankthrust decides to give in and pursue a life of crime with the help of her robotic assistant Donovan.
2016 - A Day At The Park takes place.
2016 - Queen Elizabeth II ends her deal with Bryce Tankthrust. Previously, Bryce was paying her five million dollars a month to recieve orphan hearts to fulfil her need to frequent heart transplants. This results in a personal feud, prompting Bryce Tankthrust to run for President.
2016 - Adrian Gelson assaults Queen Elizabeth II, leaving her permanently disfigured, at a national park and steals her ring in order to use it to propose to his girlfriend, Everly Darling. After getting married, Adrian & Everly move to Clamville under the alter egos of Mr. & Mrs. Gallager to settle down and start a normal life. However, they are tracked down by a bounty hunter of Queen Elizabeth II and coerced into returning the ring. After murdering the bounty hunter and attempting to escape Clamville, they're kidnapped by Mrs. Frontbottom, the Queen's head of security, and forced to take on the British alter egos of Lord & Lady Mingeworthy while carrying out a mission to obtain the ring left in Clamville and return it to her majesty. However, despite successfully completing this mission, they are forced into keeping the British alter egos and carrying out a life of servitude to the Queen in Clamville as an alternative to death.
November 4th 2016 - Bryce Tankthrust is Elected President.
2020 - Bryce Tankthrust stages the incarceration and escape of horny terrorist Bobby Worst.
November 4th 2020 - Bryce Tankthrust loses the presidential election.
2021 - Footage of Bryce Tankthrust staging the incarceration and escape of Bobby Worst is leaked to the public, which severely damages Bryce's reputation, and businesses. As a consequence, she loses her entire fortune and is left broke.
2021 - Bobby Worst is kidnapped by the Mingeworthies at the request of Queen Elizabeth II as an attack against Bryce Tankthrust.
2021 - Mrs. Frontbottom is revealed to be alive and overthrows Queen Elizabeth II as Queen of the UK.
2021 - Bryce Tankthrust and her assistant Donovan team up with the Mingeworthies to rescue Bobby Worst.
2021 - Bryce Tankthrust gets exonerated, restoring her reputation anf fortune, and her and Bobby Worst get married. Adrian & Everly decide to continue living life as the Mingeworthies, despite being freed from their contract
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dailybrandonrogers · 7 months
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Analysing How Bryce's Creation of Elmer Clones Differs Across Timelines and The Implications it has on Pre-established Events
In the Finale of BRYCE, Bryce recalls a period of her life where she "Made clones of a baby I stole so I could harvest hearts ethically," alongside miscellaneous footage of herself from Stuff & Sam. Then, "but when I was thwarted, I took it out on the country by running for president," and footage from the Epilogue of S&S where the Eldest Elmer kidnapped her in order to torture and hold her captive.
At the end of this theory, I proposed two unanswered questions that I am now hoping to resolve with the information revealed in the Finale of BRYCE.
The chronological disreprency of the S&S Epilogue.
How Stuff & Sam occurs in The Current Timeline.
Here is a reference of the Timelines I mention:
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The first thing to investigate is the order of events in The New Timeline as recounted by Bryce Tankthrust, which will be assumed as a factual objective. Temporarily ignoring the existence of anything that happened The Old Timline, the events are as follows:
In 1990, Bobby Worst murders an abundance of people and harvests their hearts for Bryce's use. These are stored in a cooler, and Bryce uses them as needed until she runs out in the mid-nineties. We know this because footage of the empty cooler is shown before Bobby informs Bryce of her mother's release, scheduled for around 1995.
After dealing with her mother's return, Bryce kidnaps "a baby" (Elmer Phitts) and clones it in order to harvest their hearts without murdering anyone. She wants to obtain her supply ethically.
Bryce and this operation of hers gets "thwarted." Based on the events of S&S, this would mean Sam and Donna murder Bryce in their own home by enticing Baby Elmer to shoot her. Then, after obtaining the Creator's Book from Sam, the Eldest Elmer kidnaps Bryce and resurrects her. He then holds her captive, and tortures her indefinitely as payback for how she exploited the Elmers.
The next event Bryce mentions is her presidential election campaign. Before this, it be must be assumed that the events of Blame the Hero occur, as that's how she was previously depicted being freed from captivity.
I'm going to pause here to explain the initial theory I had constructed pre-BRYCE for some clarification.
In a previous post, I asserted that the version of Stuff & Sam we the audience watches takes place in The Elmer Revolution Timeline. This is because the action of Main Character Blame, and Original Blame quarrelling over the time machine in BtH's 5th episode "A Botched Beach" within The Lincoln Lives Timeline is the catalysing factor for Tattoo Shop Elmer (who is the Eldest Elmer) to travel back in time and create the Elmer Apocalypse nuke. The moment Elmer returns to the ABB scene, the timeline has shifted from Abraham Lincoln Lives to Elmer Revolution. For the remainder of BtH, the Timeline stays in The Elmer Revolution until thr climax in "The Best Ending" where Hitler and Elmer die in their respective ways, ensuring that time travel is never invented, but more importantly that Elmer never makes his apocalyptic nuke. Their deaths created The New Timline, which the BRCU has remained in ever since.
Priorly, it was accepted that S&S takes place in 2018/2019. This follows Original Blame, who was from 2033, choosing to stay in 2018 to have another chance at life. It is shown that several months later he is adopted by Sam and Donna during the events of S&S. The below screenshot is from the aforelinked theory; hopefully it explains how Original Blame remains in The Elmer Revolution Timeline, hence inundating S&S to also take place in that Timeline too.
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Even though The Elmer Revolution itself doesn't start in 2033, the Timeline still begins in 2018.
Here is where differences come into play. The BRCU is shown NOT to be a paradoxical time loop; the events of The New Timeline are very different from The Old Timeline. BRYCE in its entirety takes place in The New Timeline, including the scene where Bryce cuts out her heart for Bobby. While not shown explicitly in BRYCE, Abraham Lincoln and Hitler would have spawned in right before Bobby threw up, preventing his vomiting and the breaking of Bryce's heart. This key moment allows Bryce to grab Hitler's book about authority and decide to run away hand-in-hand with Bobby instead. From here, the BRYCE series continues as shown.
This does not necessarily mean that BtH takes place over and over again in a never-ending paradoxical loop, at least not in The New Timeline. My interpretation of this is that a paradoxical loop DOES happen infinitely in The Old Timeline, and every single time it ends the same way with formation of The New Timeline being the result. To paraphrase, these 5 different Timelines all take place in one singular Universe. But in every single Universe, BtH happens causing all the different Timelines to occur and finally end with The New Timeline. I'll save further elaboration of this for a future post, but my conclusion is that BtH does not necessarily need to happen in The New Timeline. Moreover, it's important to remember that each Timeline is replacing/building upon the one that came before it; they're not variations of The Original Timeline.
With this is mind, it could be proposed that the context surrounding The New Timeline version of Stuff & Sam proceeds as follows:
Donna Phitts, having returned to the USA from Germany after WWII (and the events of BtH's The Best Ending) eventually gives birth to her son, Elmer.
Bryce Tankthrust, now a successful CEO, kidnaps a baby Elmer Phitts sometime after 1995. She creates clones of him in order to harvest their hearts and fulfil her demand following the exhaustion of the previous collection she had given to her by Bobby Worse.
Sam, sometime before 2016, attempts to adopt a baby through Thrust Babies, and he and Donna uncover the Elmer cloning operation. They are able to rescue the original baby Elmer, but not before Bryce eventually tracks them down and gets murdered by the baby in question. Sam and Donna have a falling out after she regains her memory, which prompts Sam on a journey that eventually leads him to obtaining the Creator's Book, anr meeting the Eldest Elmer and The Secret Society of Elmers. Sam later manages to resolve his feud with Donna, but what's important is that the Eldest Elmer now possesses the Creator's Book, which he utilises to resurrect and kidnap Bryce Tankthrust in revenge.
Somehow, Bryce escapes. Without the baby Elmer, her cloning empire disintegrates, and she ends up making a deal with Queen Elizabeth II, where she pays five million dollars every month in exchange for orphan hearts. Eventually this deal disintegrates too, as seen in Normal British Series. However, Bryce no longer needs to harvest hearts as she has began to grow one of her own.
Now. Let's move onto the unfortunate clusterfuck of new unanswered questions, plotholes, and disreprencies this brings up.
The timeline of events in The New Timeline is so unbelievably messed up now. A majority of Bryce's videos are now implied to take place in the 1990s. There appears to be a twenty year period between 1995 - 2015 that is left pretty vague all things considered. BRYCE demonstrates that Bryce's ascendancy takes place primarily between 1990 - 1995, which is visually illustrated by her straight hair. Between 1995 and 2015, all that is mentioned is the Elmer Cloning operation. Her presidency, Normal British Series, and modern day lifestyle are all mentioned too, but these take place between 2015 - 2023.
One disreprency I think I can come up with a theory to explain though, is Bryce's age/birthyear.
We now know that at the absolute latest, Bryce began working at Callco Phones in 1989. She usurped Finchell as head of the company before 1990. Bryce was shown to be 20 at the time of her employment, suggesting she may have been born in 1969. Funny enough, here's a post from my drafts that I never ended up pursuing because 1) I did want to wait until the third episode came out, but 2) because I didn't think it held much weight.
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It's pretty irrefutable in my opinion that Bobby was born in 1971, however I am now inclined to believe that Bryce IS three years older than Bobby. A birthyear of 1968 also gives enough time for all the post-Donovan's death events to unfurl between 1988-1990. Moreover, this could be an explanation for why Bryce is slightly more mature than Bobby as a child. To surmise, I believe after some minor adjustment, the geneal dates of BRYCE series events still make sense. I can't say the same about the new 1995-2015 period, however.
The next step will be to focus on how certain Old Timeline events fit into The New Timeline in light of these order of events now partially clarified. This will also include how Bryce escapes from the Eldest Elmer, as well as what happens in BtH's place.
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Does Blame the Hero Still Occur in The Current Timeline?
In the most surmised form, the events of Blame the Hero can be summarised as followed: in 2033, Blame purchases and uses a time machine. A series of subsequent events occur, and the time machine ultimately ends up in the hands of Abraham Lincoln, who now resides in the late 1970s.
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The short answer is that I believe the events of BtH are doomed to occur over and over again in an infinite cycle WITHIN The Original Timeline. I believe that every single instance of The Original Timeline existing always leads to The Current Timeline. However, I do not believe the events of BtH occur in The Current Timeline. This may seem quite obvious at first, but there are some sub-events that make the situation quite nuanced. Here's an excerpt from this post that contains some initial thoughts of this idea.
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Firstly, let's account for the perspectives of the three iterations of Sebastian/Blame/Grandpa.
As I've established by now, I am a huge truther for Stuff & Sam occuring in The Elmer Revolution Timeline, just 15 years before the actual revolution begins in 2033. This is where the 2018 iteration of Blame comes in; yes he was initially from 2033, but he decides to stay in the year 2018 after encountering another version (Main Character Blame, who later becomes Grandpa) of his 2033 self. The important takeaway from this is that Current Blame is fully aware of time travel and it's implications, but decides against getting his tattoo changed in favour of re-living his life all over again in the year 2018, and gives his time machine to Main Character Blame. Current Blame is going to continue to age, and be 38 in the year 2033. He will have no incentive to repeat his past actions; meaning, he won't buy a time machine again and travel back in time and do those actions all over again.
Sebastian Hernandez on the other hand will grow up to be 22yros in 2033. Hold this thought for a second.
Remember: MC Blame (Grandpa) is from The Original Timeline, whereas Current Blame is from The Lincoln Lives Timeline.
So we know how MC Blame ends up in The Current Timeline as Grandpa, but how does Current Blame residing in The Elmer Revolution Timeline still end up also in The Current Timeline? Well, we've gotta remember that every single Timeline is operating off the Canon of the one that came immediately before it; they are NOT variations of The Old Timeline.
Let's also account for what happens to the time machines across the story too.
In ADATB and Episode 1 of BtH, Main Character Blame uses his time machine to travel back to 2018. Although it initially gets lost, eventually used by the Mingeworthies to travel to 1865, used by Delores Cowpussy to return to 2018, it ultimately finds its way back to him when he mugs Helen Brownstein and successfully convinces his younger self to get a different tattoo. In episode 5 of BtH, he loses the time machine again (this time in The Abraham Lincoln Lives Timeline) prompting that aforementioned cycle to also occur in this timeline too. He hopes to retrieve it from the Mingeworthies before they travel to 1865 this time, and although he's successful, that time machine is broken.
Current Blame, coming from The Abraham Lincoln Lives Timeline with his own time machine, drops it in the tattoo shop whilst brawling with MC Blame. This is what allows Tattoo Shop/Eldest Elmer to do his whole 1942 endeavour and create plans for The Elmer Revolution. Elmer returns the time machine to Blame, and this is the time machine that is utilised for the rest of the story until it ends up in the hands of a pensive Abraham Lincoln in The Current Timeline in the late 1970s.
Unfortunately, we're gonna need a very stark detour here but I promise it's necessary.
Starting chronologically in the year 1942, what changes to the framework of the canon occur in The Current Timeline?
Grandpa exists. He meets Clarissa, and has his daughter Kathy with her. He also meets Donna, and his son Elmer with her too.
Sometime in the late 1970s, Abraham Lincoln and Hitler randomly appear mid-brawl in an elementary school one day while Bryce Tankthrust is confessing her love to Bobby Best. Hitler drops a book, which Bryce retrieves, and decides to run away with Bobby and have a happily ever after with him. Yes, Bobby is sent to an orphanage for the rest of his adolescence, but the two of them eventually reunite in their early 20s. Bobby never goes to prison, never swears revenge against Bryce, and never has the motive to nuke the entire planet in the year 2033.
The Mingeworthies lives are relatively similar in The Old Timeline vs The New Timeline until 2016. This time, Bryce Tankthrust is now president instead of Donald Trump between the years 2016 - 2020. They never end up adopting/stealing Cockwaddle from Jurgen Klausvonschwitz, who instead grows up normally with his father.
The point of denoting these changes relates to a simple question: would Sebastian Hernandez (then Blame) in the year 2033 want to get his tattoo changed? We know he still gets the gang sign.
Here are the two schools of thought:
Yes, Sebastian Hernandez in The Current Timeline decides to change his tattoo.
Sebastian would purchase the time machine off of Craigslist and travel back to the year 2018. He would lose it again, as that particular plotpoint has no reason not to still occur. Whether it would end up in the hands of the Mingeworthies is debatable, and I considered exploring the possibility that is does, but without Cockwaddle I don't believe they'd have any reason to be at the beach on August 3rd 2018. Moreover, Jurgen would have no incentive himself to want to travel back in time to figure out the kidnappers of his child, as Cockwaddle was never kidnapped. MOREOVER, Cockwaddle himself would not travel back in time now, because the whole "that date" situation relating to his kidnapping/being forcibly disabled no longer happens whatsoever. Therefore, the scientist would never be shot nor come to the beach on August 3rd whatsoever, meaning he doesn't take the time machine from Dick Flicker, which means the Mingeworthies have nobody to steal it from in the first place. I think it would be extremely funny if Dick Flicker DID actually "sell that piece of crap on eBay," but I'll get to that in a moment.
This particular theory, although semi-outlandish, does have a few pros.
It would explain why there's a Blame (22yros) in The Current Timeline in the year 2018 and onwards without demanding an explanation of how Current Blame in The Elmer Revolution Timeline translates over to The Current Timeline too.
Under the assumption that This Blame's time machine was sold on eBay, he is left stranded with no way to return home to 2033. However, it also means that Tattoo Shop/Eldest Elmer never learns about time travel, which means he never makes plans for The Elmer Revolution, so that never takes place either.
It provides some clean conclusions on certain events definitely not happening, essentially making The Current Timeline a fixed timeline. While I love this theory for this reason, the next one does have a bit more weight to it imo.
No, Sebastian Hernandez in The Current Timeline does not change his tattoo.
In Episode 7 of BtH, (also The New Timeline if you wanna keep track, albeit in an extremely newborn/beta version) Hitler is murdered by Bobby Worst in the late 1970s before Hitler gets the opportunity to even invent a time machine this time. Yes, Abraham Lincoln still has THE time machine, but it's arguable that Sebastian Hernandez in 2033 would never be able to buy a time machine off of Craigslist in the first place. There is the assumption that the time machine Lincoln has IS the one that eventually ends up on Craigslist though, in which case this is the catalyst for the above theory occuring; that's how Sebastian would obtain the time machine in the aforementioned theory. In this theory we do not have to worry about time travel being involved in ADATB in The Current Timeline at all, which makes things infinitely simpler. It still explains why the Elmer Revolution never occurs, but we'd still need an explanation for how Current Blame transfers to The Current Timeline.
My theory for this? TBD!
All of this to say that The Current Timeline essentially becomes a fixed timeline after the events of BtH. The events of BtH don't need to happen in this timeline, but they also physically cannot happen no matter what forces try to intervene.
So what implications does this have? I will go more in detail in a specific post, but it primarily relates to the events of Stuff & Sam in The Current Timeline, funny enough. The BRYCE finale gave us quite a bit to work with regarding the Elmer cloning hearts stuff, and also the factoid that S&S allegedly occurs BEFORE 2016 now... in this timeline. I will make a post in the future detailing a revised version of S&S that contains what I believe to happen in an amended canon compliant to the current timeline way.
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BRCU Timeline Ramble - How does ADATB impact where and when Stuff & Sam occurs?
In my BRCU timeline masterlist, I included this dotpoint as an extremely surmised overview of when Stuff & Sam takes place:
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This theory came to me on a whim, however I think it holds pretty significant weight and I'd like to elaborate on it in this post.
As always, here's my timelines guide:
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What we know about Donna from Stuff & Sam and other "old-timeline" videos:
Donna & George "Grandpa" Hernandez have a history together.
Donna has a son to an unnamed father called Elmer, who would be "well into its 40s by now" during the events of Stuff & Sam.
What we know about Sam from Stuff & Sam and other "old-timeline" videos:
He is 38 in a video released in 2016.
He was an orphan, and remained in an orphanage until he was 17 due to his distrust and hatred for fathers. At 17, he was adopted by Donna, who was likely seeking to fill the void in her heart left behind from the abduction of her biological son (despite her concious efforts to distance herself from that connotation due to the painful memories.)
From some of these solid dates, we can infer that Sam was born around 1978. We can also infer that Elmer was born in the 1970s as well.
In Blame the Hero we see Donna Phitts depicted as a young adult in the year 1942. Legally, I'd say the absolute youngest she could be here is 18, estimating her birth year to be at the latest 1924. This would make her a minimum of 94 during the events of Stuff & Sam. Donna's age is something I'm happy to take hilarious liberties with as it's a meta running joke (eg; the disease and fossilisation jokes) and the storylines poke fun at the absurdity of this fact. This would put her in her late 40s/early 50s at Elmer's birth, which all things considered isn't *unfathomably* unrealistic anyway.
A Day At The Beach - 1.0 & 2.0 Explanation
The A Day At The Beach (ADATB) video was released on August 3rd 2018, which is also the explicitly canon date that video occurs as stated in Episode 5 of BtH.
The 22-minute ADATB video begins in the Old Timeline, and ends in the British Timeline due to the mishandling of the time machine, and historical interference by the Mingeworthies in 1865. This prompts the beginning of Blame the Hero in the British Timeline once he takes back the time machine from Helen Brownstein, convinces his 7yro self not to get a agang sign tattoo, and returns to 2033. As a side note, Blame's precessor debut video "Thugs Got Secrets" takes place in 2033 in the Old Timeline.
In Episode 5 of Blame the Hero, Blame is able to murder the Mingeworthies in 1865 before they manipulate Abraham Lincoln and rise to power. This action alone prevents the British Timeline from occurring from this moment forward. HOWEVER, we have not yet entered the Elmer Revolution Timeline. I have decided to establish this as another timeline: The Abraham Lincoln Lives Timeline. This is because Abraham Lincoln encourages Blame to stop the Mingeworthies from arriving in 1865 in the first place, which would also prevent Lincoln's survival of his assassination (and the people "winding up with civil rights" as he says.)
So now in the Abraham Lincoln Lives Timeline, Blame arrives in a normal 2018. His new actions this time ensures the Mingeworthies never make it to 1865 as they destroy the time machine he arrived in 2018 with. However, this also prevents Blame from returning home to 2033.
Now here's the important bit:
Main Character Blame's order of events across ADATB and BtH looks like this:
Buy a time machine off of craigslist
Travel back to 2018, the year where he, as a 7 year old, got a gang sign tattoo, and convince his 7 year old self to get a different tattoo.
Lose the time machine in the sand upon arrival in 2018.
Later find the time machine after it exchanged many hands in the possession of Helen Brownstein who tells him where his past self is ("the boy in the picture you're looking for") [[🌟🌟🌟]]
Successfully deter 7 year old self from getting a gang sign tattoo, but get a "disney channel bullshit" tattoo as a replacement due to Sam being the adult to sign off on it.
Create and enter the British Timeline upon returning to 2033 due to the mishandling of the time machine during the period he'd lost it for in 2018
Terrorist Bobby Worst's nuclear apocalypse occurs as the military has been eradicated by the United States of Britian's Government.
Be recruited by the Secret Society of Elmers to prevent the apocalypse by preventing the Mingeworthies from rising to power.
After preventing the aforementioned, be instructed by Abraham Lincoln to prevent the Mingeworthies from using the time machine in the first place.
Travel to 2018 and prevent the Mingeworthies use of time travel, but lose his time machine in the process.
Now at this point Phone Elmer (aka Eldest & Tattoo Shop Elmer) instructs Blame to steal the time machine from "the original you who came here to change his tattoo." Original Blame in this context is Main Character Blame at the point in the prior list order marked with [[🌟🌟🌟]].
The crucial difference is this:
Main Character Blame came from the Old Timeline in 2033, arrived in the Old Timeline in 2018, left 2018 in the British Timeline and arrived in 2033 in the British Timeline.
^ I call that Beach 1.0
Original Blame came from the Abraham Lincoln Lives Timeline in 2033, arrived in the Abraham Lincoln Lives Timeline in 2018, and then stays in the Elmer Revolution Timeline in 2018 (the physical altercation between Main Character Blame and Original Blame allows Tattoo Shop Elmer to access the time machine, leave the Abraham Lincoln Lives Timeline in 2018, learn about its origins, create plans with Hitler to invent a nuke that makes everyone look like Elmer, and return to 2018 in the newly created Elmer Revolution timeline.)
^ I call that Beach 2.0
The key thing to remember here is that the Elmer Revolution timeline starts the moment Tattoo Shop Elmer returns to 2018 to give the time machine back to the Blames, even though the Elmer Revolution and its nuclear apocalypse doesn't start until 2033.
Now because Original Blame chose to give up his time machine to Main Character Blame and stay in 2018, this is the iteration we see of Blame several months later in Stuff & Sam. As I've mentioned in previous posts, Stuff & Sam takes place in the latter half of 2018 and the first half of 2019 for this reason. I strongly believe the version of Stuff & Sam we watch takes place in the Elmer Revolution Timeline for this reason.
This also means Elmer goes from looking like this:
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To looking like this:
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In a matter of a couple months which is very funny to me.
I am going to make a follow up to this theory addressing some subsequent plotholes that relate to this arc and these order of events.
In the epilogue of Episode 20 of Stuff & Sam, Bryce Tankthrust is kidnapped by the Eldest Elmer who holds her captive and tortures her indefinitely. In a chronological meta video release order, the later Episode 1 of Blame the Hero reveals she once again broke the legs of the Eldest Elmer, but is still being held captive nonetheless. This is a plothole because at the time of Episode 1 of BtH, Stuff & Sam is nowhere near occurring, and won't occur until BtH events are finished. So... how... did... any of this happen...
What happens to the Elmer Revolution Timeline after The Eldest Elmer (his conciousness in an Elmer Drone Body anyway) is killed in 1942 and the New Timeline comes into effect. Does Stuff & Sam still take place in the New Timeline?
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BRCU Timeline Ramble
I'm creating this as a reference point for any of the major events we have canon dates/time-frames for. I apologise that this will be very disjointed so I'd like to make an offical list eventually too.
Just for clarification, these are the timelines I'll be mentioning.
Pre-BtH Timeline - "Old/Original Timline"
The British Timeline
The Elmer Revolution Timeline
Post-BtH Timeline - "Current/New Timeline"
Bryce Tankthrust's Presidency
In the Post-BtH Timeline, we know that Bryce Tankthrust became president in the 2016 election (in BtH, a subtitle states that it was 2020, however this has been retconned and I stand firm with it being 2016 instead.) In the 2020 election, Bryce Tankthrust lost to Joe Biden, and the events of Madam Ex President ensue. From this, we know that Madam Ex President takes place after November 2020. Episode 3 of Normal British Series also corroborates that Bobby Worst was kidnapped after Bryce lost the election, meaning it's a safe assumption that Episode 5 and the non-flashback segments of Episode 4 take place in 2021.
In Normal British Series, we also find out that the Mingeworthies stole Queen Elizabeth II's ring in 2016, and Episodes 1 through to 3 before the 4-year timeskip all take place in 2016. Moreover, we can actually narrow this down to the Mingeworthies being well and truly British in Episode 1 by November 2020, as Bryce's election campaign advertisement specifically mentions "voting for me (Bryce) this November."
A Day At The Beach
We know A Day At The Beach takes place August 3rd, 2018 in the pre-BtH timeline, which is also mentioned in episode 5 of BtH (A Botched Beach (ABB)). Ep5 of BtH is the second time we see the events of ADATB, this time in "the British timeline" even though Blame technically arrived before the Mingeworthies could obtain the time machine, go back to 1865, and initiate the British timeline in the first place. This is gonna get really confusing, but now I'm going to talk about how this impacts all of Blame's iterations. To avoid further confusion, I'm going to refer to the collective setting of ADATB and ABB as simply "The Beach" and unless otherwise specified I'll be specifically referring to the depiction of the Beach in ABB.
Firstly, we have a good reference point to keep track of the two Blames seen at the beach:
The "main character" Blame who we've been following in BtH up until ABB has the colourful Jesus tattoo, while the "original" Blame who showed up to remove his tattoo still has the gang sign. Moreover, the "original Blame wears a chunky gold chain. I'll be referring to them as MC Blame and Original Blame respectively.
However, we also two versions of the time machine too: MC Blame's time machine, and Original Blame's time machine. The MC time machine gets smashed to bits by Lord Mingeworthy in ABB, forcing MC Blame to steal Original Blame's time machine. After ABB, the only time machine left in existence in the Original one.
In ABB, after some persuasion, the Original Blame comes to the conclusion that MC Blame needs the time machine more than he does, and decides to stay in 2018 to "get a second chance at life." This is the Blame that we see in Stuff & Sam, which occurs (chronologically) after the events Blame the Hero, as well as in any subsequent Brandon Rogers videos. At this point in ABB, MC Blame has already prevented the British timeline from occurring, and has allowed Tattoo Shop Elmer to become educated on the time machine's lore. This means that even before the Eldest Elmer has physically initiated the Elmer Revolution via nuclear b0mb in 2033, the "Elmer Revolution" timeline has already began. (Also note, Tattoo Shop Elmer and the Eldest Elmer are the same person in the most literal way possible.) I'm gonna go over everything to do with the Elmers in another post (likely after the next episode of BRYCE which will hopefully reveal some context and implications about what became of the Elmers in the post-BtH timeline) because figuring out how Stuff & Sam takes place after Blame the Hero despite it having explicitly pre-BtH events is gonna take a lot of brainpower.
We know that Sebastian Hernandez is the "real/correct" iteration of Blame that is meant to exist in 2018. He is canonically 7 in 2018, which means he was born in 2011. This also matches up with Blame's age, who is 22 in 2033. Due to the time travel Debacle, the Original Blame is also 22 in 2018. MC Blame is the one who goes on to become Grandpa, as MC Blame is ALSO 22 in 1942 (as indicated by the title cards in episode 6 of BtH). It is Donna (in WW2) that gives Blame the new identity of George (aka Grandpa) after serving his extensive head trauma. Physically, Grandpa would be 96 in ATATB in 2018. However, now we unfortunately need an explanation for how he was around in pre-BtH timeline. The same could technically be said for the depiction of Blame in "Thug got Secrets," however there's nothing in that video that disproves it taking place in 2033, right before Blame purchases the time machine. This is definitely a headcanon for the sake of simplicity, but I think it make enough sense as an easy explanation. At this point, MC and Original Blame would essentially be one in the same person, but if you wanted to be very specific, you could say TGS Blame is MC Blame.
Thank you so much if you read all that, let me know if there's something I left out an alternative explanation for anything! I love to hear other perspectives on the timelines.
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