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lingeringscars · 11 months
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Ben 🤝 akilah 🤝 mari
Surviving s2 death allegations
Hallucinating for months because of starvation
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eliza1911o1 · 2 months
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Resident Alien S3E3 reminding me why I loved this show
Not going to get into the issues, functional or superficial, I have with the show (post-s1, especially); that’s another post. Just wanted to note how 141 Seconds finally utilized some of the best parts of the show that have being going under appreciated
Obviously, one of those is focusing more on Harry himself. Subsequent seasons have really allowed supporting cast to grow, but this has come at the cost of Harry’s depth, at-times. It feels like it’s been a while since we’ve seen him truly wonder what he’s doing on Earth past chalking it up to affection for Asta or flippant interests such as his love for certain foods
The addition of the subplots wasn’t unwelcome, too. Rather than merely putting them through funny scenarios or highlighting some random meditation on humanity, the scenes truly added to the characters. For Dep. Liv, we gain insight to her lacking confidence as her grandmother bullies her for meaningless reasons; Sheriff Mike shows again his tactlessness for relationships, but is there to support Liv; Judy surprisingly gains context and is supported by D’arcy; Asta is guided to focusing on herself rather than keeping busy by others; and most focused on is the position of Ben and Kate, who is haunted by the ghost of a baby she supposedly never had. Though this plot feels more redundant than foreshadowed due to feeling too close to the scenes involving the Alien Tracker and his wife from last season, they are expanded this episode and strike an emotional chord that finally makes it feel worthwhile
It also highlighted that, even though he’s always saying it, Harry is an intelligent being with knowledge far beyond Earth’s limits. Though Harry has been expanding his repertoire of expression, most scenes have him coming off as immature and, at times irritatingly selfish. He’s typically the butt of a joke and substantially simpleminded, not bothering to understand the complexities behind his own emotions. I think the show has been struggling with the “show don’t tell,” so even though it was kind of a weak example, there was satisfaction in seeing Harry finally display his skills
Season 3 hasn’t felt as tight as it should for the shortened episode count (now at eight from twelve), but this episode managed to make the sitcom shift into more the drama it was during season 1. The anxious thought/hallucination Harry has of lava pouring out in the lobby was an especially nice touch, reminiscent of the zombie figures he saw when he was struggling with the guilt of killing his newfound human friends. The introduction of the Blue Avian at the end (who supposedly is Harry’s love interest, whose role I am skeptical about) is also nice as Harry’s trouble with the galactic laws reminds us (and him) he is, in fact, still an alien. No matter how human he is becoming or how much he wants to stay in this small town, that is not his full position. It’ll be interesting to see how this season pares out since the writing/plot has really been a hit or miss. However, if you’re just watching for laughs, there’s nothing to complain about
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random-french-girl · 2 years
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But isn't it sad, though? Fatin indirectly told Leah to be quiet, so she was quiet. She had no way of expressing all her thoughts and feelings about the island, so she literally started to hallucinate, so that she could. I reiterate, she started to hallucinate, because Fatin told her to shut up about her theories. I love them both, btw, but in s3 there's gotta be guilt, lots of talks, and forgiveness, 'cause whether Fatin wanted to or not, she added an additional toll on Leah.
Anon, you are correct, it is sad!
It’s sad because, to some extent, s2 explores how Fatin fails to help Leah. Starting in the very first episode: she lashes out at Leah in a desperate and frustrated effort to save her - and instead is the catalyst for Leah’s suicide attempt. She repeatedly tells Leah to stop 1) thinking about her theories, for her own sake, and 2) talking about them, for the sake of everyone else ; and so Leah is left with hallucination!Ben Folds. Fatin wants so badly to help her, and can’t, because, until the very end of the season, she’s simply not in a position to give Leah what she needs. Because Fatin, an extremely empathetic and caring person, is also rational & reasonable and thus cannot believe Leah. You’d have to be a lil bit nuts to believe Leah, for most of s2! You’d have to be Leah to believe Leah!
That’s why Leah’s story on the island is a bit of a tragedy, right: she’s doomed from the start. Nobody can believe her there. The island is a place where nothing she does matters in the end - she has no power in this realm, not against the godlike machinations of Gretchen & co. Bunker!Leah lives in a thriller, but Island!Leah is a tragic heroine. Tragicomic, actually : we laugh at her, and then she breaks our hearts.  
But then there’s an additional layer, which is that Fatin does help Leah. She’s the only one who’s able to get through to Leah about Jeff, for one. She makes it clear that Leah can’t get away with hurting others just because she’s so focused on her theories. It’s not a bad thing, I think, for Leah to learn to prioritize, to not let her obsessions make her selfish. And of course, at the end of the season, Fatin finally tells Leah exactly what she needed to hear, closing the wound from the first episode, in which she says the wrong thing. And don’t even get me started on bunker!Fatin.
In the end, Anon, I feel like you’re interested in the question of blame, and I agree: it’s a fascinating one. Can we blame Fatin for some of her choices in s2? Can Leah blame Fatin? Is Leah to blame, too? (After all, her lack of credibility on the island is partly of her own making, miss “little girl who cried wolf”.) I don’t know how the writers are going to resolve this in s3, but I know I want both the relief and satisfaction of finally having Leah and Fatin on the same page, and the delicious delicious angst (slash comfort!) of dealing with what happened between them on the island!
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motherofmabari · 11 months
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I'm having TMA and Yellowjackets brainrot rn so I'm thinking about which Entity each Yellowjacket is most aligned with, like individually. The show as a whole has big Hunt and Slaughter vibes, also Flesh, but I wanna break it down further so here goes -
First up, Tai's gotta be Stranger right? We've got other Tai going on, plus the Man with No Eyes feels Stranger aligned, and even specifically Eye opposed considering the lack of them imo.
I'm gonna say Laura Lee is the Vast, what with the little plane and her death in the sky and then her final resting place underwater.
Lottie is Spiral, no questions. What is reality, what isn't, that's her whole schtick.
Misty is the Web, she manipulates and collects information and positions herself to get what she wants, though I don't think she'd get along with Annabelle.
Shauna is ofc the Flesh, girl is their butcher and the first cannibal among them, this one's a no brainer. I mean, she gave birth! Tell me growing a other human inside your own body isn't the most Flesh aligned thing ever
Van is pure Hunt, she's been both prey and predator and is the most bloodthirsty among them imo.
Natalie took me awhile, I initially leaned towards Hunt for her too but I actually think I'm gonna go with the Buried for her, and here's my reasoning - Natalie is buried in guilt from episode one, over her father's death. The guilt continues to pile on through her entire life, and she even attempts to bury her trauma with drugs. Idk, I think it fits.
For Jackie I lean towards The End. She's the definition of Doomed by the Narrative, and her death signals the end of the Yellowjackets retaining any real normalcy.
Getting into the girls we don't know as well - with Mari I'm thinking maybe Slaughter? She keeps hearing the dripping which we can now assume is blood dripping, what with her bleeding wall hallucination, and she's a strong contender for Pit Girl.
For Akilah I'm gonna go with the Lonely, I mean she hallucinated a whole little mouse friend for herself, seems pretty Lonely.
As for Crystal/Kristen, Gen, and Melissa, I honestly know so little about them that I just don't know.
Bonus Boys -
Coach Ben is officially Desolation aligned after the season 2 finale if you ask me, the Spiral might've been playing with him earlier but the Lightless Flame has him now
Javi feels like a mix of Lonely and Buried for me - he spent so much time presumably alone and underground, so in a literal sense it works, and he's also the outsider in this group, the baby brother who's in the way. The ring Travis dug up for him also feels Buried aligned tbh.
And last we have Travis - I'm thinking Flesh. This works both with his latest act of eating his brother's heart, and with the earlier obsession with his body as both a sexual object and literal meat, when the girls hunt him as the 'stag'. Even his cruel nickname, Flex, comes from a scar on his body and the lie about why he got surgery (removing ribs is very Jared Hopworth too).
Is this anything? Idk but it's fun to play with
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annual-amerikate · 1 year
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i can not handle season 2 episode 2 of yellowjackets.
this contains heavy spoilers as well as my complete review and thoughts on the episode.
all tws are (hopefully) tagged.
its the most disturbing, by far.
shauna dealing with jackie makes me almost vomit. the way shauna acts, in every single way, that jackie is alive. i was terrified by the sight.
tai's sleepwalking also getting progressively worse and worse plays into so much more of the episode. she is even able to cut herself free from the rope she and van tie around each other and almost stumbles off a cliff trying to follow the man with no eyes.
lottie having to reveal the way travis died to nat, i was throughly in tears at this point. nat's reaction and travis's trauma makes me want more of their interactions.
as well as that, laura lee's ghost, which is essentially the anti jackie. instead of being there to remind shauna of what she has done, laura lee is there as an omen of death and rebirth.
nat and travis' hunting expedition also made me cry like a bitch, but i got quite upset at nat. they split up in opposite directions. nat to hunt and travis to find javi. nat fakes finding one of javi's jackets bloody to get travis some closure. it's sweet in a genuinely fucked up way.
but, that gesture eventually leads to them having sex, which nat has a perfectly fun time doing. but travis imagines lottie walking him through the whole thing. the entire time as he has sex with nat, lottie guides him. which leads into jackie's cremation failure, which i will get to.
lottie knows what shauna and jackie are doing in the shed, well mostly shauna, jackie can't do much. shauna is losing everything she has out there i cant even explain how sick to my stomach i felt watching her burn jackie.
"jackie, i'll never have another friend like you. i don't even know where you end and i begin. i'm sorry. and i love you." - shauna to jackie as she cremated her.
along with jackie they also cremate javi's jacket.
callie, sweet callie. she is going through it. she broke up with kyle. so her and her bestie go to a bar, eventually callie meets this guy and spills it all about shauna cheating on jeff.
turns out the guy is kevin's partner, you know nat's old detective friend, that is on adam (shauna's mistress's) case. it's a moment. kevin even comes to question shauna.
now modern day tai is going through it. she hallucinates sammy coming to her house, and then after she calls her ex wife, they find out that sammy has been at school for 2 hours. tai later gets in a car crash with simone in the car.
anyways, back to our old 1996 crew. jackie's cremation doesn't go through. some weird force sets out the fire right as she is perfectly cooked. so all the crew eat her. they imagine they are in ancient greece, feasting on foods of the past, the gorge themselves on jackie's corpse. like wild animals.
the only one who doesn't is coach ben, and he is terrified. that man, i worry for him. genuinely.
and that is how we wrap up season 2 episode 2 of yellowjackets.
it was an amazing episode, and it felt like a season premiere more than the last one. the pacing was great, and the cinematography had me in shambles. i felt sick to my stomach, yet entranced the whole time. nothing could have prepared me for it.
10/10
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drewsaturday · 11 months
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ik i said i'd lessen my yj bitching but.... another thought actually <3
i feel like something the "you just got too into theorizing and got attached to a show that doesn't exist" crowd mocking s2 disappointments is not recognizing that a huge chunk of the most exciting promo scenes all turned out to be hallucinations.
like, even pushing the tonal inconsistency between the season 1 finale lottie setups and what lottie actually turned out to be aside, we very much were baited into thinking certain things would happen that very much did not happen.
yeah some people probably did go off the deep end with [spins wheel] javi is actually NUGGET kinds of theories or whatever, but... we didn't JUST get here because we spent too much time theorizing in a media illiterate echo chamber. we got here because the show set things up that did not pay off.
i don't think the hallucination bait and switches necessarily implied such huge plot elements as the lottie inconsistencies did. i fully acknowledge it was smaller things like gen frothing at the mouth and attacking ben or mari frantically backing up against a wall (due to what we now know was a hallucination) adult!lottie's hands covered in blood, or teen!nat wiping blood off her face looking ashamed. but it certainly did not help that so many of the seeds sewn to go "look how UNHINGED this season is!!!!!" turned out to... not be real. i mean sure, it's a great look into the girls' mental declines, but... it's not the same as those things physically happening proportionally to the hallucinations.
i also should acknowledge that some of the other hallucinations we saw in promos were lottie looking into a plane and descending down into tunnels (this was an episode-specific promo, i believe.) we did actually get some underground tunnels! so i'm not like, intensely disappointed about that, even though it would've been really cool to get the sort of ladder shaft she was specifically climbing down. and the plane window thing wasn't much on its own. you could also argue that with what i mentioned above, we did see adult lottie cut her hand open--even though that's very different than a murdery covered in blood look--and we did see actual cannibalism like nat's blood-covered mouth implied.
some of the other hallucinations were more obvious like antler queen walking through the burning plane or a dirtied up teen lottie walking through a mall, and i have to wonder almost if getting obvious hallucinations made me expect some of the other scenes to not be hallucinations. i also have to wonder if any of this was purposely misleading because of spoiler culture these days--always having to go in a direction the audience won't expect even if it doesn't make sense.
idk, maybe some of us DID go too insane over analyzing every little trailer detail, but... they include those things for the sole purpose of hyping people up. as much as i've grown to appreciate some spoilers being given to us by showrunners to make sure we do stay on track in our theorizing (like confirming they wouldn't eat the baby, or that adam Probably is just some dude), they still very much did include the most exciting scenes possible to get people to watch more.
and while to an extent some theorizing does go off the rails, most of us are perfectly capable of going "hey, this theory didn't pan out, but what happened instead made SO much sense with what the show already set up and it was SO enjoyable!"
but ngl our theories were usually so grounded in knowing the actual show so deeply that we're the perfect ones to say if something didn't meet the expectations the show itself put forth. and a lot of season 2 did not pass the vibe check.
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brynfelan · 2 years
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umbrella academy season 3 was weird, and i have Thoughts. (spoilers!)
honestly, i liked viktor’s coming-out. i’m glad it happened early, and i’m glad it was so much of a non-issue. i loved luther’s reaction (actually, he was the most enjoyable he’s ever been this season), and i’m really glad that the show went this route rather than having elliott page having to play a woman for the rest of the show. UA gets major props from me for doing that.
that being said, what the fuck is up with alison this season? i think her having an evil arc is good. i love an unhinged woman. but also, i don’t think it was well-done at all - i’d have liked them to show more pushback against her (particularly from luther - especially after the rumour scene). she’s traumatised, let her be unhinged, but i think luther in particular forgave her too easily.
reggie continues to be a very consistently well-written character. i know this guy, he’s a backstabbing son of a bitch that is incredibly charming at times. i rate doped-up reggie, would love to sit and watch trash tv with him.
himbo luther has my heart. i love that he made a mixtape. i wish that would have come up later (maybe when sloane was accusing him of using her? i think that could have been a really cute scene).
i regret that the sparrow academy were full of kinda nothing-characters. i don’t have many thoughts on any of them. aside i would have liked for ben to have a little more development through the season, but really that can be said for all of them. sloane felt kinda nothing-y too, but i’m glad she was the catalyst for Dumb Himbo Luther.
diego and lila are NOT a valid straight couple, but i’m still rooting for them. also yeah, lila’s pregnant and eating sushi (which isn’t recommended in the UK) - but also it’s the end of the fucking universe, let the woman eat the fish. 
reggie put klaus best, he is marvellously deranged. and i love him! i also very much enjoyed his scene running from the amish. 100% not where i expected that to go, but i had a good time with it. also, i think his father-son bonding time was excellent.
there are a few plot threads left hanging that i wish they’d delved into more - alison’s hallucinations, what the fuck the jennifer incident is, why chris is a cube to name a few. i wish viktor had played violin at least once this season. maybe when he went to ben’s room, instead he could have found that violin that’s somewhere in the house (if it exists in that version of the universe). i also wish he’d called ben out on the jennifer incident while he was there, since ben had drawings of jennifer all over.
overall, i think this is the worst season so far. i think the writing has fallen off a bit, but it’s still a fun show. i’ll be happy if they renew it, since i’m still invested enough in the plot and the characters to carry on with it for maybe 2 more seasons at most, but i hope the writing improves next season.
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addictsitter · 6 months
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what is chambers even about
chambers is a supernatural/horror series on netflix that premiered in 2019, lasted one season and then was brutally cancelled two months after release.
the main character is sasha yazzie (and if i see anyone hate her i will fight them) a seventeen year old indigenous girl (this fact is important btw) who has a freak heart attack while trying to lose her virginity. through what is, over the course of the series, implied to be supernatural intervention, she manages to get to a hospital in time and gets a heart transplant from a girl who died twenty minutes away in the fictional (and in no way based on sedona) crystal valley. (this is set in arizona fyi.) the heart donor, a white girl named becky lefevre, is survived by her twin brother (elliot, my boy), her mother (nancy) and her father (ben). via what is definitely absolutely shady and questionably legal behavior, ben tracks sasha down and invite hers to dinner. no, it is not any less creepy in context.
after that dinner and that first night with the lefevres, sasha starts going to the weirdo rich kid school because of a scholarship from ben and nancy. (there is the overall vibe for most of the series that they're kind of using sasha as a becky substitute. this just gets worse and more blatant during the back half of the series.) at the same time, sasha starts seeing things. hallucinations that are written off as anxiety but are, of course, supernatural. she sees becky several places, hallucinates things that becky saw, manages to have several skills of becky's somehow, etc etc. (also she gets the twin thing with elliot, which is fun.) but the more that sasha sees, the more that becky comes through. suddenly, there's straight blond streaks in sasha's hair. suddenly the cut on her hand from a becky flashback is healed but surrounded by white skin.
long story very very very short, it turns out that the lefevres' weird rich person new age country club is actually a cult that may or may not be demon summoners who attempted to use becky as a host and becky killed herself because of it. because of this, becky is still sort of alive in sasha and trying to take sasha over to kill her. it is not any less unsettling in context, btw. there is an excellent scene that takes place ~in sasha's heart~ where becky's been getting rid of sasha's stuff and replacing it with all of hers. it's v obviously meant to be representative of what's going on with the battle for possession of sasha. skipping several spoilers, the series ends with the cult approaching sasha to be like "hey so obviously becky was the wrong choice but surprise we decided it's you" and left it on a sort of cliffhanger.
the series has some really obvious themes of cultural appropriation (just about everything in crystal valley/the cult) that are juxtaposed with the fact that, due to her upbringing, sasha's never been able to connect with her heritage and is unfamiliar with most of it. according to the showrunner, the plot with the lefevre parents using sasha as a becky replacement is also meant to be a Thing about colonialism that would have been addressed and explored more fully in the non-existent season two (rip)
the series has issues (i have a List of trigger warnings for it) and the writing has some, uh... moments. but everyone knocks it out of the park acting-wise, sivan alyra rose is absolutely incredible as sasha, everyone on this show is hella pretty even becky's ambiguously evil best friend. honestly, the fact that sivan didn't even get nominated for this series is a fucking crime.
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girltomboy · 11 months
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I finished Yellowjackets S2
Boy, the quality difference in these two seasons is unbelievable. I hate the term "prestige TV" but at times Yellowjackets does feel as such, like an insanely good TV show. And other times it borders on CW-levels of bad and strained. At least some of the questions I had after S1 were answered; although I am not impressed overall - everything this season felt rushed and forced.
It seemed to me like everyone was out of character, which is why I keep insisting it felt so forced. Like Natalie staying at Lottie's resort thing and actually getting into all of it instead of planning an escape, or accepting Misty's rescue offer. Misty doing the same, when she only went there to help Natalie (and ended up killing her EYEROLL). Shauna seemed to be the only one who hadn't completely transformed throughout the season, but her whole Randy cheating-set-up arc was so boring and weird. Like WE DON'T CARE!!
Then there was Taissa's family being completely abandoned and forgotten right when they all needed her the most, and then her visions/sleepwalking seemingly completely stopping once she visited Van and went to Lottie's with her. Not to mention her professional victory being just thrown to the side, like nbd just gotta make a quick several-day trip to my friend's cult camp after causing a car accident and putting my wife in a coma and hallucinating my kid in my house. And Van coming up with the idea of canceling the intervention and Taissa agreeing was kind of an ugly setup, even though the surprise intervention wasn't a brilliant one either. Like just don't feed into Lottie's homicidal instincts in the first place. Also, Lottie becoming a cult leader after being released from a mental institution was a choice, considering Natalie's death will most likely fall under her blame. And now she's just gonna go back to being held in a psychiatric institution because all her high school friends decided to visit her bee farm and it all ended up becoming a killing sacrifice.
The cop arc was so fucking insufferable I wanted to skip all the scenes with "Jay" (forgot his real name) and/or Kevin. They even made me hate Callie's parts, and I don't want to hate Callie at all, cause he was the creepy one! The same goes for Jeff, his whole role this season was just painfully pathetic. I hate the whole sidekick syndrome that characters in this show inevitably gradually start suffering from. Even Misty's boyfriend was more interesting than any of the Shauna vs cops chase.
Natalie's death was just completely ridiculous to me. And all of it tracing back to the night Nat was tripping on acid and saw Misty for a split second was just... what? Are you telling me she died a fucking goofy Tom & Jerry ass death at the hands of probably her best friend because she saw her that night and the acid somehow cursed her? Or is there a curse nestled deep inside Misty? Or deep inside Nat, considering all the shit she's been through. Idk but I cringed so hard I had to shelter my eyes a little when I saw how she died.
On the other hand, Kevin dying on the same night and a similar death as Natalie, and both of them completely unaware of what was going on with the other was just tragic. Regardless of the goofy ways they both died. I know Kevin wasn't a huge part of Natalie's life, and that their affair got cut short, but I expected him to be more protective of her. But ACAB even in Yellowjackets so it's not that big of a surprise.
Moreover, coach Ben not being in any of the present-time narratives makes me wonder not if but when and how they will find out that he burned down the cabin, and eat him too. I feel bad for him because I thought he was evil at first (when he was trying to play along with Misty's crush on him) but then we found out he was gay and was just humoring Misty to avoid hurting her feelings. He was also against the whole cannibalism thing from the start, which is ironic because that's probably how he will end up. We'll probably find out more about Javi's secret little cave, and find out who his "friend" is as well.
Also, speaking of Javi, are we going to just forget about Crystal? I mean, I remember how quickly they abandoned even the memory of Javi when he was missing in S1, but at this point they got to taste human flesh and survive thanks to it, I thought they'd be more eager to find her frozen body instead of going through the hassle to pick and chase a whole other person to sacrifice. Digging through the snow would've been easier than all that, but then again, she could have been eaten by something else, and then the trouble of digging for her would have been useless. At least the chase got them something.
AND speaking of Crystal, I kinda thought the new girls they snuck in at the beginning of the season were going to be sacrificed and eaten right away. I like the roles they were given, especially Akilah's and Gia's (I think that's her name?) but I still think it was corny af to just add more girls to the team and pretend they were there the whole time.
Overall I think most of the present-time scenes this season could have been skipped and overlooked because for me personally all they did was interrupt the wilderness parts which were far more interesting and more important. I did LOVE adult Lottie's character but they did her so wrong by taking her back to the institution. Her cult thing was a bit weird but I don't think there was anything sketchy or dangerous about it. I also liked adult Van and can confidently say the criticism I saw about her not being "butch enough" was stupid and weird. I'm willing to bet her cancer will be confirmed to have disappeared next season because of how Lottie looked at her and said "You'll see". In fairness, their lives will probably go back on track now thanks to the sacrifice, and Lottie will end up being right.
I wish they had focused more on the relationships and dynamics of the kids in the wilderness. Like, Nat and Travis for starters, Travis and Javi, Taissa and Van, Shauna and Taissa, Lottie and pretty much everyone else. I felt like this season leaned more into their adult lives which was a complete waste. I don't care about Shauna's fake affair with strawberry lotion in a condom, or her daughter going bowling with a creepy fake cop, I want to see more of how they slip into insanity in the middle of nowhere, especially since Shauna JUST gave birth to the dead child (where is it? When will they eat it?) of her best friend's boyfriend, after she JUST ate her best friend, who froze to death and then got an accidental cremation. Like, are you kidding? Why would they not explore all that instead of putting me through whatever the hell all of that was?
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variousqueerthings · 2 years
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Survivors of Yellowjackets
Just a musing on who I think might be still alive and whomst I think is more likely dead (and who I really want to survive!) the 19 months in the wilderness.
I’m only going to go for characters who (as of time of writing) have had bearing on the plot. There are obviously a fair few background characters who haven’t had a lot to do yet, and I wonder if they’ll be given more space as other characters have now died… and of course, there’s the girl from the opening episode who was being chased through the woods…
Confirmed survivors (unless it’s secretly a drea- gets sniped by the over-complicating things bureau): Shawna, Nathalie, Taissa, Misty, Travis (RIP Travis)
Confirmed dead: Jackie, Laura Lee
Possible survivors:
Lottie
Arguments for surviving: I think it’s pretty much certain that Lottie is alive at this point, probably still running the cult begun in the forest.
Arguments for dying: I don’t know. If someone stole her name? Honourary title? I’m just making shit up for the sake of entertaining the notion, I feel like it’s basically canon that she’s alive.  
Conclusion: She’s basically alive.
Coach Ben Scott
Arguments for dying: He is truly the last line between reason and madness, he can’t run anywhere and he’s eventually going to be surrounded by a bunch of cannibals who have some interesting notions about the roles of men in their survivalist society, also Misty could very possibly divert her energy from “loving” him to hating him and wanting to destroy him.
Arguments for surviving: It’d be kind of badass you know? Guy down one leg making it out + in a broader sense, having a gay disabled guy making it out to possibly try to get his life back would just be cool. There are ways he could survive if not every Yellowjacket succumbs to Lottie’s cult, and there could be an interesting narrative to tell about how people balance the worth of life in desperate situations. There are also potential stories one could tell about him in the present day narrative, a man who was closeted in 1996, who had this tragedy give him a chance to be defiant about that where he couldn’t be in so-called “normal” society… does he get that chance in 2021? Or is he as trapped by that crash as the girls, cut off from the potential joy of his queerness, and just as cut off from heterosexual society, because of his trauma? (Both?) I'm generally not a fan of "happens to be gay" plotlines, because it matters! And in this storyline it's been shown to matter in more ways than one, so I'd like that to not become "just" another death.
Conclusion: It’ll depend on the tone moving forwards. So far it doesn’t seem to be an entirely nihilistic depiction of violent breakdown of social norms (and has even critiqued some of those norms), and it’s dealt with death as a form of tragedy that desperately wants to be avoided for the most part. I think his death or survival has a good chance of cementing said tone as either relentlessly bleak or with a glimmer of hope. In my soul I want him to live, but there are versions of his death that could be done well, if we’re exploring tragedy through a purposefully queer lens (when it comes to him). Not everything is Bury Your Gays, but if you have a gay character like this, in this setting, that has to influence your writing, not just as a matter of sensitivity, but also just because it makes for better writing. Again, he could die and could die well! But he has to matter.
Van
Arguments for surviving: Speaking of queerness… it’s interesting that Taissa’s flashbacks and hallucinations appear very centred around the wolf-incident, which as we all know technically didn’t kill Van. I think if Van had died then Taissa miiiiight have had her narrative more centred around that instead (although, we do know Taissa is excellent at repression). The wolf-incident did however all but cement her belief in Lottie, so I think it's highly likely that she’s alive and the next seasons will continue to see crash!her and Taissa splitting apart as she chooses Lottie’s ways over their relationship – that is Taissa’s big loss and shame: She’s the one who suggested trying to find help, who got Van hurt (not really, but in her mind), who drove her to Lottie. Also I am so going to write another over-thinky post about the way queerness exists in this world in constant different forms of overt tension, but that is not this post!
Arguments for dying: Anyone could die I guess? Currently I don’t see a lot of narrative reason for it, especially considering she kind of already did, but that’s not to say that reasons couldn’t be forthcoming further down the line.
Conclusion: I think it’s highly likely that she’s still alive unless new evidence presents itself in the show. That being said, if she does die, everything that applies to coach applies here, with a dose of Lesbian Death Trope. It's a narrative with death, one cannot escape that, but a narrative has to bear in mind these lazy clichés.
Javi
Arguments for dying: Okay, so I realised as I was thinking about him that we never see any kind of funeral or anything for Travis. We also don’t see anyone trying to reach out to Javi to be like “heyyyy you ok?” Javi could easily be a sacrificial lamb in all this. As with coach being the last line between reason and madness – he’s the last line between innocence and evil, what with being the youngest and the one you’d most likely want to protect. So far Javi hasn’t functioned as subject of the story, so much as an object for Travis’ progression (it’s interesting then that we know for sure that Travis is the one who’s dead), and it’s very common to kill off that kind of a character for some thematic sads. It would definitely explain why Travis went completely off the deep end, although I’d argue the crash and following events make that make a lot of narrative sense already and it doesn't need compounding.
Arguments for surviving: There’s no narrative reason for him to survive… yet. That doesn’t mean it couldn’t appear, especially if Javi starts to become more of his own actual character. Getting to know his internal life could also be a hint that he’s being set up for slaughter to make us even sadder when it happens of course, writing is tricky like that. The biggest reason for survival is potential – his character could provide further emotional depth to present!Travis’ death, especially if they both made it out only for Travis to become an addict and pull away from him, leaving Javi floundering, and he could be an interesting POV for everything that’s going on both in the past and in the present.
Conclusion: If he remains in more of a thematic role, that boy is going for the chop. However I also wouldn’t be surprised if season two introduces adult Javi without any kind of fanfare. It’s too early to tell, but my gut leans slightly towards survival, especially as there are other background character who could be brought forward in season 2-onwards to kill instead of him, once a body count is needed... that being said someone has to die.
Akilah
Arguments for surviving: She’s pretty. And she’s got a good instinct. She feels like someone whose character we’ll likely explore more in the next season.
Arguments for dying: She’s not a main character, nor is she being set up for joining the cult (as of time of writing). She exists riiight in the sweet spot for death.
Conclusion: I lean just a little more towards dying… sorry, I love you.
Mari
Arguments for dying: Similar to Akilah, however I feel it even stronger for her, because she’s also not quite as capable in the wild. She’s not incapable like Jackie was, but I can see her being voted to be roasted.
Arguments for surviving: I think we’ll possibly explore her as well a little next season. She’s also a follower, so strong bet she’ll join cannibal cult if that’s the way the wind’s blowing.
Conclusion: Leaning a liiiittle harder on that “die” button than with Akilah.
Generally I don't see this as a show in the same vein as The Terror, in which the tragedy is that you know they all died, or GoT/The Walking Dead (later seasons) style "eVeRYoNe CaN DiE" lazy type storytelling, where they use death as an easy story device when a quick bit of pathos is needed.
It is a horror in the surface definition of it, but it's also very much a character drama and for that to happen the characters need to... not die all the time. That being said, of course more characters will die and quite likely at least one major named season 1 character (I say "quite likely" it's not definite, especially if the show wants to surprise us). If I had to choose one major season 1 character... oof, it's not looking good for Ben or for Javi.
What is interesting though is that when you look at major/secondary characters of season 1 there aren't a whole lot that aren't people we know make it out and two of those are dead. I think it's more likely that some background characters will come to the fore who are more vulnerable to death, than that current characters will go (at least in the 1996 setting).
Again, the character drama needs characters and it can't just keep bringing in new ones, because otherwise why did we care about the previous ones?
Conclusion: So far! Death matters. Apart from the initial dramatic crash (which only killed minor characters) and Adam (who I have a feeling will matter a lot in season 2) all the deaths have been central to the characters emotional journeys.
It's about the illusion of "everyone can die" while also allowing one to build journeys with the Main main characters. The only Main main character to actually die in the 1996 storyline of season 1 is Jackie.
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okay i gotta get real with all this jay & voight stuff happening right now.
i just want to share my opinion, mostly because i feel like my thoughts don’t align with most fans on this site. and i like hearing other peoples perspectives, so sometimes i hallucinate and think maybe others want to hear mine too 😂(also i completely believe in having civil conversations about differing opinions, so if you disagree, feel free to send me a message, just be kind)
i love jay as much as the next person, i think he’s great. but he is not the perfect see no evil do no evil detective most are making him out to be right now…
i’m in the middle of a chicago pd rewatch with my mom rn, and i literally have made a list of evidence against jay, where he’s went along/helped voight when he crossed the line. and i’m only on episode 7.
if we’re gonna talk about people who have consistently went against voight’s way… the only answer, the only person is antonio.
in the early seasons antonio constantly challenged voight’s way of policing when the rest of the unit went along with it. antonio still protects voight (and justin in s1) but is always checking hank and opposing the crossed lines. jay only does it once in season 1 ep 14 after antonio tells him too. season 1-4 is literally all about burying cases and blackmailing with IA.
eventually antonio goes down another path and we see him make mistakes, and in s6 jay sort of takes on the role antonio used to play.
and the role that lindsay played in jay’s change also really needs to be mentioned. jay really only starts actively opposing voight after s4 when lindsay leaves. because she’s his girlfriend and she’s always on voight’s side he kind of automatically is too. his high road really only started after s4 when lindsay left. then he kind of becomes the moral compass of the group.
jay has not always lived up to this gold standard that he’s being held to right now. two great examples are in s1 with the ben corsen situation, and in s5 with the camila situation. jay has also crossed the line, maybe not as blatantly as voight, but there have been times where he could have lost his job. (i mean the guy covered up a war crime for goodness sakes)
adam, olinsky and hailey are beloved characters who have done similar voight-ish things but they aren’t held accountable by fans the way voight is.
and that’s probably because voight has been “bad” from the beginning. but that’s exactly the point. a lot of people forget that voight has always been an anti-hero/vigilante character. dick wolf decided to start chicago pd because he loved jason beghe as voight so much.
in my opinion, characters like voight are needed for cop shows, especially now, because they’re demonstrating the changes that need to be made in real police departments.
police reform unfortunately only really started in the past two years, and they’ve started introducing the reform in pd in seasons 7,8 & 9. and i think that them portraying voight going through these changes is extremely interesting. he’s having to fundamentally change his ways of policing. we’re witnessing a character arch. of course he’s going to have slip ups, change doesn’t happen overnight, but he is trying.
almost every cop show ever created has a character that breaks and bends the rules, and not all of them are including reform in their recent seasons. i think we should be kinda proud of our show runners for at least attempting to mention this issue.
another thing that i think is worth mentioning, is that voight crossing the line almost always (i won’t say always cause i don’t wanna get quoted) in favour of the greater good. his techniques are outdated and violent, but he uses them in order to put awful people away.
i think the real issue with voight could come when his actions are unethical for reasons not related to the greater protection of others.
after watching this show 3 times over, i’ve grown a little bit of a soft spot for voight, and i will always love jay, but the comparisons between the two bother me.
that’s all i guess 🤷🏽‍♀️😂
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what did cody said about klave?
Omg Anon okay so, twitter user umbrellaacademy invited Cody to do a twitter space with them which they did yesterday (8PM Friday EST) and Cody stayed for OVER TWO AND A HALF HOURS answering fan questions and saying SO MANY things about Dave and Klave and I am still so overwhelmed. I have recorded it and I’ve sent the video to the host and they’ve said they’ll release it soon (although the file is massive so I suspect they’ll have a bit of trouble wrangling it like I did so it might take longer). In the meantime, some highlights under the cut:
- Dave’s favourite thing about Klaus is his openness. He’s charismatic because he’s unafraid to be himself. Cody also finds it endearing that Klaus marches to the beat of his own drum.
- He likes the idea that the briefcase brought Klaus to Dave because of fate/destiny. Dave is the missing piece of Klaus, he fills a void in Klaus. He’s as interested as we are to find out if the timeline loops back in season 3
- Dave is soft spoken. There are qualities of Dave that have grounded and soothed Klaus but also Klaus has pulled Dave out of his shell. Klaus’ openness was like an invitation to Dave to open up and be goofy and strange, and this was a vibe Cody got from Robert as well in the bar scene, but then the dynamic shifted later and he felt that Dave was the one who was opening up first.
- Dave would go with Klaus to be with his family. He would want Klaus to take the reigns and would trust Klaus re- what kind of life they could have together post Vietnam. Although there would be no hesitation from Dave about his love for Klaus, there might be hesitation about planning a life together because of the time period they were in. There’s a sense of peace and wanting to settle from Klaus. Cody just basically being solidly on the Klaus bringing Dave back to 2019 to meet his family train.
-  There is a sensitivity and self awareness to Dave, Cody thinks he accepted his sexuality but just was careful about advertising it because of the time period. He also says that his Dave in season 1 didn’t have the experience we saw in season 2 with his uncle and that might have made him more open (I am staring directly at my reverse George McFly theory).
- Dave’s love for Klaus is unconditional, he loves him for exactly who he is. Dave’s unconditional love is a foil for the conditional love Klaus gets from his family. Klaus doesn’t really know what love is and then he gets fired this laser beam of love from Dave.
- Cody that been in a play where his character was in a relationship with a guy but he thinks Rob hadn’t done that before. The director set the tone that the kiss scene was an intimate and tender scene. He feels like there was a reassurance from Dave to Klaus in that moment.
- Dave was holding 4 shot glasses in the scene where he’s holding them with both hands. 
- Cody describing Dave in 4 words - kind, sensitive, empathetic, soft. Dave would describe Klaus as free spirited, open, unfiltered, unexpected (he also put forward chaotic but didn’t stick with it and replaced it with unexpected).
- Dave’s first thought when he woke up and saw Klaus was “Is this a dream... We’re not sleeping much so this could be a dream, I wouldn’t put it past my brain” Also “The dream coming to reality but maybe not necessarily looking like what he thought.”
- He thinks Klaus probably took the dogtags off Dave after he died as a way to remember him rather than them exchanging them
- He wants Klaus and Dave’s storyline to end with love prevailing. He also floats the idea of Dave taking a dark turn and Klaus has to be the redemptive person to bring Dave back.
In preparation for playing Dave he watched the Ken Burns Vietnam War documentary series on Netflix and also looked up online about the Vietnam war. He also listened to music he thought Dave would be into from 1965-1968: He mentions Motown and Stones (Cody said he himself likes Motown)
- Cody’s favourite thing about Dave is the quality of how he loves Klaus. He describes it as pure and unconditional and simple and he talks about he thinks people need to love each other fearlessly - not just romantically but in friendships as well, especially with what’s happening now (and this sort of clarifies to me why he was talking about love over fear so passionately in the clever klaus q&a and what he meant by that)
- Cody is a fantasy nerd
- He would love to see Dave giving Klaus some agency
- He thinks that Klaus has some guilt about Dave’s death
- He would like to play a Commission agent (Commission Dave rights!!)
- Robert is very open and unassuming and funny and it was easy to have an immediate rapport with him. Cody also talked with Tom Hopper (about their mutual friend Bradley James). He also briefly met Colm and Robin and he also remembered he met Aidan (who here had a theory about a deleted scene with Aidan in the attic?)
- He doesn’t know how time works in the afterlife or how Klaus’ power works but Dave would have waited 50 years for Klaus
- Calem joined the space and they said that they hadn't interacted before but they had a bit of a chat. Calem said that his filming in season 2 was 4 days but about 1 month apart. Calem’s internet kept cutting out and then he disappeared.
- If Dave was one of the 43 children his power could be the care bear love blast and he could fire hot beams of love out of the hole in his chest. He would give Dave a more passive power to round out the more active powers the other Hargreeves have, like a healer
- The scene in the tent was filmed at the studio. The scene on the bus was shot outside. The scene in the trench was partly shot outside but some of it was shot in the studio as well (I wonder if he’s confusing that trench scene with the hallucination at the Rave though?)
- He said the scenes were beautifully lit (I beg to differ, Cody!)
- Klaus helped unlock that part of him (I think he means Dave’s sexuality) and he also says that Klaus was a very specific target to Dave’s love. Klaus seems like one in a million. When you love someone there’s something specific about them that pulls that out of you.
- Calem returns! He was in his room where the internet crapped out on him but then he went downstairs. Cody asked what it was like for Calem to come in and play an established character. Calem said he purposely didn’t talk with Cody about the character before playing him because he’d done the audition without knowing anything about the character so he didn’t want to risk doing something too different from what he’d done in the audition, but he did watch season 1. He also said he was a bit anxious about what the audience would think of him playing the character, and Cody went into acting mentor mode and said that he doesn’t think the job is about appeasing the fans but about trying to be as true as possible. He also said that Calem did a good job and he shouldn’t be hard on himself but Calem then said that he quickly got over it and he wasn’t thinking about it on set, just afterwards. Calem mentioned that he creeped Cody’s IMDB and he said that his dad was a camera operator on Lizzie Borden Chronicles this Cody guest starred in an episode of.
- Dave loves music like Cody. He mentioned Four Tops as another band and then Motown again. He thinks the bar scene shows Dave’s love of music but he wasn’t thinking about that at the time.
- Dave would be overstimulated at first if he came to the future because we’re bombarded with a lot more stimulus than in the 60s. The internet and iPhones would blow his mind. He let’s a “we’ll see” slip, which he then quickly corrects to “we would see”
- The kiss in the bar was definitely the first kiss and he thinks it happened a couple months into the tour. He thinks the feelings were mutual quite early, but that it would have taken some time to act on them and to be able to gauge if each other were really giving off the signals that they like each other.
- He’s appreciative of the fan love and he tries to make a connection with everyone he can
- Dave is an optimistic force who thinks that love will prevail so he would have wanted to do something to make it work despite the obstacles they faced
- Cody doesn’t know how close to the vest Klaus kept the stuff about his powers and the time travel etc but he did see Klaus appear so he does know there’s something strange about him. Dave trusted Klaus and even if it wasn’t explicitly talked about there was enough trust to go “wherever you go I’ll follow, wherever that leads.” When Klaus conjures Dave, Dave is excited to see him but isn’t really surprised or put off by any of the circumstances that Klaus is in.
- He thinks that Dave is more the listener of the relationship, but he could certainly see Dave telling Klaus about Dune and Klaus indulging him.
- Rob is very genuine, very unassuming, very immediately open, very funny, definitely puts you at ease, incredibly thoughtful, very considerate, good dude (wow it’s the complimenting Rob speed run! 8 in a row!)
- The aspect of Dave that Cody connects to most is his non-judgemental quality
- Dave would connect with Vanya’s softness and Luther’s moral compass (he said Diego’s moral compass in the cleverklaus q&a so not sure if he just mixed them up). He thinks Dave might be a bit too sincere for Five and Ben would appreciate being able to unload Klaus on Dave.
- He thinks Dave is not a tattoo guy but Klaus is impulsive so getting a tattoo really aligns with his personality. He thinks that Dave’s actions speak louder than words written on him
- He connects to the fractured family theme of the show on a personal level
- Dave being jewish was something he only learned about through looking at the dogtags, it wasn’t in the script or anything
- Dave might have studied Philosophy if he’d gone to college instead of joining the military, he feels like there’s a dreamer quality to Dave
- Even though Dave was pressured into joining the military, he thinks that Dave believed he was going the right thing by enlisting
- Colm is a Canadian Hall of Fame actor and Reginald is such an intense character so Cody would love to do a scene with him. He would also love to do a scene with Elliot.
- Cody remembered waiting on set to film the scene in the club and he, Rob and Tom were in an 80s hotel with a heart shaped jacuzzi (??? oh was this the set with the Handler and Agnes maybe?)
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Season 2, episode 6: Breslauer Hallucination Station
Spoiler alert!!! This is a rewatch recap of Snowpiercer s2e6: Many Miles from Snowpiercer. Naturally, it is full of spoilers for that episode. However, it also contains spoilers for some other episodes of season 1 and season 2. You have been warned!
Melanie does the opening monologue today, discussing how she’s worried that Wilford will crush the people’s hope for a warmer planet. She zooms through snow on the volt sled, until she hits something and the engine gives out. She’s not far from the station, so she walks the rest of the way there with just one bag of supplies. When she begins to clear the way to the research station door, she uncovers a dead body with a bullet wound in its head. This is probably my least favourite episode of the whole show.
The opening credits sound slightly different, again! Have they all been different? I’m starting to wonder if I’ve missed some? Anyway, we open on Melanie inside the research station, getting the place all set up. She wanders around in the dark, and my screen doesn’t get bright enough to show most of what’s going on. Also, @train-pirate gets a cameo!
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Melanie finds whatever machine that she’s been looking for, then finds another frozen corpse. It sends her into…
Flashback#1: baby Alex
It’s just a couple of seconds of them in their old house, nothing exciting.
Melanie logs her initial findings - namely the dead bodies - then makes plans her next day: she’ll get the solar panels working, then go back to fetch the luggage that she left on the volt sled.
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… or not!
She was able to sort out the solar panels (and discovered a third corpse next to one of them - missing an arm), so she’s got plenty of power. But unfortunately there was a bit of an avalanche, so her volt sled and remaining supplies - including most of her food - are gone. Uh oh.
Next, there’s a mid-episode monologue! There are some pretty shots of Chicago while Melanie reminisces about pre-freeze life, and what it was like to have aspirations and dreams about the future. It brings us to...
Flashback #2: pre-freeze Snowpiercer
We’ve previously heard Melanie claim that she built the train (Wilford just sold tickets), and Wilford claim that Snowpiercer is his creation. But it seems like the reality is somewhere in between:
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After that, we discover that the engine eternal isn’t actually eternal. But they don’t dwell on it, because Melanie is excited to drive the train!
Back in the present, Melanie counts out the few rations that made it to the station. There’s nowhere near enough. She raids the cupboards, but comes up empty, which leads to...
Flashbacks #3 & 4: more baby Alex
Again, they’re just short flashbacks of the two of them in their old house. Alex says she’s hungry.
When Melanie finishes checking the cupboards, she tries the fridge. She discovers the missing arm from the body outside, which triggers...
Hallucination #1: Wilford (1)
He’s smoking a joint (because, of course he is!) and teasing her about her lack of food. He thinks she should eat the arm, but she doesn’t want to.
Melanie draws a calendar on the dry-erase board. Those pens usually can’t survive three days in an average classroom, so I don’t know how the fuck she managed to find one that’s still working after the apocalypse!
After some more shuffling around the research station, Melanie boots up one of the computers. It displays a picture of the dead scientist’s family, which sets off...
Hallucination #2: Wilford (2)
Hallucination!Wilford taunts Melanie about the dead scientists, and their dead child. She tries to ignore him, so instead of engaging with him she explains her data collection process to the viewers. Hallucination!Wilford then belittles Ben and “That Spaniard.”
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Does Javi use they/he pronouns? Cool!
Hallucination!Wilford then tells Melanie that jousting together is nice, because it keeps her mind off how hungry she is. She eats part of a biscuit, then connects to the first balloon! Yay!
A while later, Melanie is staring at an empty plate. The biscuit is gone. She didn’t eat it. She knows she didn’t But she must have? Hallucination!Wilford suggests that Melanie is cracking up, and she plunges into…
Flashback #5: pre-freeze Nightcar
Melanie is annoyed that Wilford is working on his brothel. He corrects her - it’s a Nightcar. Melanie insists that the train is now an ark, not for Wilford’s personal indulgences. Wilford thinks it can be both, and explains that the Nightcar is a release valve, to keep everyone under control. Melanie points out that the resources being used for the Nightcar could sustain twenty more people, and then asks Wilford why half of her geneticists were removed from the passenger list. Is it for more security? Wilford doesn’t need security, because there won’t be any guns on the train. But the Jackboots are needed to keep order - three thousand people aren’t going to get along the entire time.
Melanie fires back that if they’re going to save humankind, they need people who know how to save humankind! Wilford and Melanie haggle for places for geneticists and Jackboots for a while, until Wilford finally says the most Wilford thing possible.
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He then threatens that if Melanie won’t accept that Snowpiercer runs on his order, then her family will lose their tickets.
Next, there’s another mid-episode monologue. Melanie tells us that she’s been at the station for ten days, and she’s pretty much out of food. She hopes she can survive for long enough to get the climate model finished. She clears the snow from the solar panels, then heads back inside to lick her ration packets, which makes her see…
Hallucination #3: Layton (1)
HalluciLayton is enjoying the fact that Melanie is getting a taste (intentional pun?) of what she put the tail through. He tries to encourage her to eat the frozen bodies, but she’s intent on surviving without them.
I’m really questioning Melanie’s ethics and priorities now. She’ll torture and murder, but can’t handle a bit of survival cannibalism? It doesn’t make sense!
The hallucination is interrupted by a noise, and then Melanie sees a rat! She pops outside to hack off a bit of arm meat to set a trap, and then…
Hallucination #4: Layton (2)
While Melanie engineers a rat trap, HalluciLayton reminds her that nothing should still be alive after seven years. She knows it’s crazy, but also she totally saw a rat, and her biscuit disappeared that time! The trap seems to work, and Melanie tries to high-five HalluciLayton - but he doesn’t exist.
After a bit more snow clearing and hanging around, Melanie conjures up another hallucination to entertain herself…
Hallucination #5: Wilford (3)
Hallucination!Wilford is speculating over the details of how the previous scientists died.
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After that, it’s straight on to…
Flashback #6: departure day (1)
Melanie and Bennett are listening to calls for reinforcements. Bennett wonders how people found out departure time, and Melanie doesn’t think they necessarily did - where else would they go, near the end? Melanie then receives a call from whoever is transporting her family. She wants to know as soon as they arrive.
Wilford enters the engine, angry about the chaos downtrain. He told Melanie and Bennett that he needed more security! Melanie gets Grey a quick cameo, and Wilford tells Grey to unleash hell, and use all necessary force to prevent people sneaking onto the train. Melanie and Bennett share a concerned glance, but don’t speak up. Wilford wants to get moving, but Melanie’s family haven’t arrived yet. Bennett adds that they need thirty minutes to finish cycling up the engine, and Melanie’s expression suggests that he’s lying. Then, they’re interrupted by commotion outside - Jackboots are facing off with a small group of ticketed scientists.
Back in the present, Melanie has caught a rat! It’s real! And it brings on…
Hallucination #6: Layton (3)
HalluciLayton plays with the rat and suggests a recipe - but Melanie has a better idea!
Melanie paints the rat. No, really!
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It’s not because she’s completely lost it, living all alone on the brink of starvation. Melanie painst the rat so that she can follow its painty little pawprints to figure out where it lives, and eat its whole family! She follows the rat until it disappears, and then breaks through the highly insulated wall without putting on her coldsuit (WTF?) and finds…
Hallucination #7: Alex (1)
Hallucination!Alex tells Melanie that she’s found a geothermal vent. Melanie thinks it’s a miracle. She roasts up a rat, and Hallucination!Alex says encouraging things about the warm vent and rats increasing Melanie’s chances. Then she asks how Melanie is going to get back, without the voltsled. Melanie has a plan: she’s going to walk! If she takes a battery with her, she has enough power to make it there and back if she has to (hmmmm… I wonder why she would need to tell us that?)
Hallucination!Alex then tells Melanie that she understands why Melanie left her. Yep - Melanie is hallucinating her daughter’s forgiveness. I can’t even try to unpack that, and apparently neither can Melanie because it sends her into…
Flashback #7: departure day (2)
The flashback continues where the previous one left off - Jackboots and scientists facing off outside the engine. The scientists have chips! In their hands, I assume? Or is Jackboot Tyson just really excited about snacks?
Melanie reveals that the scientists are “her geneticists”. Wilford needs six Jackboots more than he needs six geneticists. Melanie says they don’t have time to discuss it, so they should just let everyone on! Wilford agrees that there’s no time, then orders “terminate them.” Melanie watches the scientists get shot down, while Wilford tells her to never forget that the train runs on his order.
Wilford then asks for an update on their estimated departure time, to which Bennett stoically replies “28 minutes.” Wilford wants more blood, so he heads downtrain in his Jeep to open fire on the main gate. Melanie looks horrified.
In the present, Melanie is waiting for the twelfth balloon to ping. But, outside, a storm breaks the signal tower. It crashes down into a skylight, which Melanie quickly seals up (without gloves - WTF!) She heads outside to assess the damage, then comes back inside to hallucinate again...
Hallucination #8: Wilford (4)
Hallucination!Wilford tells Melanie that all the data has been lost. Why the fuck hasn’t she got a backup? She should have multiple backups! This shit is important! Anyway, because Melanie loves to hallucinate really rough shit, Hallucination!Wilford teases her about suicide. I don’t wanna write about that, so instead I’ll just say that the highlight of this scene is this:
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Hallucination!Wilford doesn’t think Melanie is much better than him, and wants some gratitude for saving Alex. Melanie throws her mug at him, and it hits the wall because he doesn’t exist (when is she gonna learn??)
Next, Melanie stops hallucinating for a while to pop outside and fix the tower. When it goes wrong and she falls over, she makes a snow angel for a while and has yet another flashback!
Flashback #8: departure day (3)
Melanie is desperately trying to find out whether her family are on board. Her daughter is eight (lol)! Melanie loses communication with whoever she was talking to, then laments to Bennett that she doesn’t think her family have arrived yet. Wilford radios in to say he’s lost communication with Grey, and he’s going to drive back up to the engine. Bennett tells him they’ll be ready to leave in six minutes.
But they can actually leave within one minute. Melanie tries to head outside, to look for Alex. But Bennett stops her - she needs to make the call to leave. He doesn’t want to leave her outside. And, most importantly:
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Melanie cries while she announces the departure, sets the train rolling, and asks nothing in particular for forgiveness.
In the present, Melanie gets up off the floor and continues to fix the tower. When she finishes, her data gets restored. She even connects to the twelfth balloon! Now, PLEASE BACK THE DATA UP!!!!!!
Melanie continues to eat rats, cross off days, and clear the solar panels. When it reaches the final day, Melanie is unable to communicate with Snowpiercer. Another two days go by without contact. So we know something is going to go wrong in the next few episodes! When Melanie still can’t contact the train, she hallucinates Alex again…
Hallucination #9: Alex (2)
Hallucination!Alex basically just exists for Melanie to try to forgive herself! They hug for a while (ish - Alex is still a hallucination), and Melanie cries.
Then, the room starts to rattle. Melanie touches the floor, and she can immediately sense that Snowpiercer is coming! She heads outside, dragging her sled. When she sees the train, she tries radioing to them again. They need to slow down! She reaches the tracks, but the train is zooming past way too fast. Alex makes it to the back window of Big Alice just in time for them to briefly see each other, and then the train is gone.
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Melanie falls to her knees in despair. It’s a good job she brought enough batteries to make it back to the station! I can’t wait to get back to normal episodes.
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One of the reasons why I hate season 5 (there's a laundry list) is because of the character regression they had Brian go through. I was so happy at the end of Season 4 after the Liberty Ride specifically and that wonderful scene where he hallucinates Justin yelling and cheering him on to keep going and finish the ride, coupled with Brian's cancer treatment. We saw him get to a point where after returning home he told Justin, that he had started to re-evaluate his life, and think about the people who were important to him and how he wanted to spend more time with them. He wanted a more active role in Gus's life as a father, showing that slowly but surely he had started to heal from his issues of being capable as a father himself after his own traumatic experience with his.
Asking Justin to move in with him in the most gorgeous way, forever a fave moment for me. So we end wonderfully with that, and then Season 5 smacks you in the face with Justin in LA and Brian all insecure and worried he won't return and has left him. Which is valid I understand, yes Brian would have these fears. But as the season progresses, Brian REGRESSES into the Season 1 fuckboy he was with the awful awful Brandon storyline. I get they were going with his fears of getting old as his friends were moving on in life, and growing eg getting married, having babies. But they failed miserably, he was cruel at times to Justin unnecessarily when he would try and bring up them not settling down, cos that's never been them. But at least having moved past the whole "relationships are gross, not for me thanks" part of Brian. Also they did turn Justin into someone who suddenly desperately wanted babies, a house and to be like Michael and Ben ???
Yes that has been a part of Justin but to have him say he thought they would be a proper couple, was wild to me because they WERE a couple that was the point to show even though it wasn't the traditional setup it didn't make them any less. Ultimately it hurts because during the cancer arc when Brian had kicked Justin out he tells Michael "He would've left sooner or later anyway, might aswell be now" parallel that with Michael telling him when Justin leaves him " He left because of you, who wouldn't". Reinforcing Brian's belief that people will ultimately leave him, because he's not worth loving or sticking around for (childhood trauma will do that to you).
So to end the show with Brian after seeing him in a solid place with the love of his life, a father to his son and dare I say it finally happy. They rip it all from under him by having one of his best friends leave with son, Justin leave and giving them a fcking open ending and again all alone in the loft where he started. It just feels like they wanted him to stay forever young Brian Kinney, and not the man we had watched him grow to become.
Damn the writers.
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s7 adoration
First off, one thing I love about it is the versatility of it. some of my favourite parts are the humour of it, and the balance to the horror of it. It does lean towards dark, and is certainly darker than the rest of the show, but that just makes the gravity of it all lift off so intense when there’s randomly then dick jokes and so forth. same goes for the characters in it with the themes.
I genuinely think that leviathans are one of the scariest and best villains on the show because of the reflection of psychological horror and the flip on the script of hunted/hunter.
That being said, I also think Dick Roman is a great villain for comedic reasons as well and genuinely find his dialogue memorable. So memorable, in fact, I made this uquiz.
I also think that it is the darkest season psychologically in supernatural, like it rings out nadir to me, yet at the same time, this is all canon dialogue. but also it is quite unseen, the depth of it, which is infuriating (and my main fix would it being from Sam’s perspective), but it makes it compelling to me too.
I actually really like having sodium borate being corrosive to leviathans
There’s a canonical bipolar main character who’s vital to the plot and who’s talented and who’s also part of the inner themed reflections of paranoia within without systems and being incapable of trust anything even your brain while still retaining that vitality.
The season starts out with perhaps one of my favourite arcs in the show, as well, which brings me great joy in all the dialogue while also introducing one of the other most compelling parts of the show (being godstiel then Sam’s PTSD hallucinations retrospectively).
Two of the three main writer’s I look to as the core of what I love about Supernatural are perhaps the strongest voices in the season (Sera Gamble and Ben Edlund) and I really actually love the addition of Robbie Thompson and think some of his episodes are top tier. I don’t like Adam Glass, Buckleming, or Robert Singer writing any of the episodes, and my fix to s7 would be deleting those episodes, and Dabb is on like, thin ice, but I do really like most of the writing and theming and all and am genuinely enjoying the individual episodes and think that tied with 2, 4, and 5 it’s got the best quality for being entertaining to me.
And when I was looking at favourite episodes in Kripke/Gamble era (which I generally vastly prefer), it had the most of top 30 (8), and 20% of the top 10. And of that, it would skew towards the top total.
While Hello Cruel World sets up the season’s intent extremely well, I think that Defending Your Life drives the points home about how this reflects onto Sam and Dean in regards of their own psychological issues and how it will then impact their actions, the conflict not at all then revolving around leviathans but the concept of monstrosity and mental illness. While the season is incredibly ableist constantly and with some writers it’s clear that it’s intentional and the characters and they treat Sam with respect, other times it’s clearly not. I still am obsessed with this because it is directly and not metaphorically addressing these issues even if poorly.
Slash Fiction has some of the most in character and pointed analysis in the show immediately, including this scene and actually references and uses the history of the characters and the show itself to be more horrifying.
How To Win Friends and Influence Monsters is just also the epitome of s7 in general, from Sam hallucinating Lucifer and saying he’s lucky and people have it worse, Dean at his nihilistic worst about to lose Bobby admit while high on a sandwich what it’s really about, the fact they didn’t ever want to shoot deer, and just iconic dialogue from everyone including our favourite Dick Roman and “bibbing” while also having Bobby see the plans building the tension of the overall arc in the season right before being shot.
And while Death’s Door is very painful for me to rewatch, it is also an astounding episode of television from the terror of going back to the origin “You can never go home” and the only genetic case of bullet to the head (generational trauma), the insight into the abuse, how it shaped all the memories proceeding it, how Bobby didn’t escape it or what it did to him, but he also never was anything like his deepest fears or his fathers, and also Bobby’s speech towards his father. I also think the way Sam and Dean respond is extremely well written and their grief is palpable.
We also then get these lovely random images I get to share here :) X, X, and X.
Repo Man I may have some criticisms about in terms of ableism and homophobia, but it is still one of the best, and most horrifying, episodes in the show. Both the mirrors and the revelations throughout the episode and the dark intoxicating obsession while also seeing Sam’s actual trauma in front of us… I feel like I could literally analyse this episode for years, it’s so rich and deep, as much of Edlund’s episodes are when he decides he wants to make something deep instead of comical.
that being said I think The Born Again Identity may be one of the best episodes in the entire show. I can’t rationalise this because it would take hours if you don’t like this episode we just have entirely different taste.
Though, outside of the actual episode writing, the way it opens with the surreality and mental deterioration is very important to me, and it’s just one of many aspects of this episode, but I feel like it may be less popular so I thought I’d say it.
Charlie’s first episode and actually having our first actually good fully fleshed out lgbt character genuinely changes something in me when I watch it like. It is so full of hope for me personally just because of how fun and deep it remains. We get to hear Dick Roman describe the spark in humanity he can’t replicate while also saying “Nothing’s safe. I like that.” (the thesis of the season). Donald Trump helped him get the leviathan tablet. We get the scene where Dean coaches Charlie through flirting with a man and also have her make Harry Potter references which I just personally find very funny to watch. And Charlie’s mere existence just makes me hope, like the way she is.
Season 7 is the first season Cas tells Sam and Dean he loves them.
And Kevin Tran is introduced, one of my favourite characters who also adds much to the season itself.
Reading is Fundamental is the episode that Kevin Tran is introduced, that we get to see more into Cas’s past through the ways in which is he more open in his altered mental state such as how he loved Neanderthal poetry and bees, Hester’s accusation towards Dean, more talk around the hell trauma transfer which intrigues me even if it also infuriates me, and Cas actually faces and reacting to what he’s done, even if in an altered state. There are countless reasons I love it.
Also, this may not be something someone who doesn’t ship destiel can see and leans much more subtextual, so ignore this part if you are bothered by those interpretations, but I think season 7 is when Dean realised he was in love with Cas and like I do have a lot of reasons for thinking this and find it just another layer of why seeing the psychology of the main characters is intriguing to me. I also then can do parallels throughout that reflect this grapping too. And it adds layers to how Dean finds him married then, maybe even add the demon he kissed.
And then, of course, is the matter of the trench coat.
this is very very limited, but I tried my best to be comprehensive of my highlights and reasons for loving season 7!
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Jora Holiday Bio **Update 2021**
The following paragraphs contains information exclusively for the original series.
Full Name: Jora Ladybird Holiday
Age: 9, 29 (Ben10000); 39 (Ken 10)
Birthday: March 31/April 1 (she was born 11:59pm on March 31)
Species: Human
Race: African American
Fandom: Ben 10 (classic&reboot), The Secret Saturdays (crossover), Generator Rex (crossover), Cartoon Network/CN City (crossover)
Voice Claim: Kimberly Brooks; Brandy Norwood is another alternate choice
Character Role: Friend and love interest to Ben Tennyson
Powers/Abilities: Rot Inducement, Mycokinesis, Poison/Toxin Immunity, Self Healing/Regeneration, Moderate Chronokinesis (Time-Acceleration)
Items: Vials, Mini Lab, Gloves
Relationships
Family: Jeremy (father), Mavis (mother), Tasha (sister), Pattibelle (first cousin) Ginger (family friend); Kenny, Kendrix & Belle (future children), Devlin (adopted son/cousin in law(?))
Friends: Ben & Gwen Tennyson, Max Tennyson, Cooper Daniels, Richard Mortis, Mama G (future mentor)
Acquaintances: Ginger T. Glass, Tamika
Love Interest: Ben is her primary love interest, as seen with their eventual future together as well as hints and blatant displays of "puppy love."
Enemies: Pretty much every villain in this show; her personal arch-nemesis is Kudzu, a lifestyle expert & entrepreneur who initially tried to gentrify Jora's neighborhood & ruin her family's business. Other villains include Master Mortis (Richard's creator), and Kudzu's bounty hunters.
Appearance
- Dark Skinned African American girl
- Chubby, shorter than Ben and Gwen
- Has dark brown hair styled in twisted pigtails, pink hair scrunchies
- Black Bead Eyes//dark brown
- Wears lilac lacy gloves
- Wears three different outfits through the show:
- Season 1: Yellow t-shirt, pink shorts, beige sandals
- Seasons 2&3: Pink and Yellow striped tank top, orange skirt, and same sandals
- Season 4: Pink and white t-shirt, yellow capris with orange belt, and purple shoes
Personality
A sweet and quiet girl, Jora Holiday did not consider herself to be special. She lacked friends in school and kept to herself out of fear of getting bullied. This was because she had to deal with her mutant powers since they came into fruition as a very small child. Jora normally tries to avoid or deflate conflict, though deep down she does get a little fed up with playing peacemaker if the squabbling persists. Jora is compassionate and humble, never boastful but also bashful when it comes to compliments and praise. Of the four kids she is regarded as the nicest.
Because of her powers Jora has clean freak tendencies in her desire to look as normal as possible. She tried to avoid gross situations, although later down the line she learns it's okay to dirty her gloves - literally.
But with sweetness comes sourness, as she does have a passive-aggressive side towards slights, whether real or perceived. She didn't get along with Tasha, feeling as though the latter didn't care for her (which isn't true). Jora tends to be oversensitive and takes things too personally, ans even can be prone to tears if provoked hard enough. She also bears lingering resentment and shame over the partial ailments her element brings; these feelings fade away over time as she grows to accept her powers and adapt to her condition. One of her biggest flaws is her timidness and inability to stand up for herself and others. She also didn't get along with Ben for a while, though they get better quickly.
Jora has a love of nature, as shown with her hobby of collecting flowers and mushrooms. She despises animal abuse of any kind, and strives to be a bit more conscious of the environment. She also seems to have no phobia towards bugs, and thus is the designated "spider catcher" on the Rust Bucket.
Jora has a passion for fashion and a girly sense of style, preferring to dress in bright or pastel colors. Her love of nature and love of fashion could lead to a career based on environmentally friendly beauty products.
Ben 10000: Lavender shortsleeved dress and white apron
Adult Appearance
When she grows up Jora is considerably more capable of handling herself. She gets upset when people see and treat her as a fragile thing, seeing as though they don't trust her. She also is very in tune with nature, spending her days off on long walks in the forests, or at her homemade lab making potions.
In this timeline she was a waitress who worked after shifts as a vigilante. At the time the Hero of Heroes didn't know who this mysterious woman was, although he was struck by familiar feelings.
Ken 10: Mint Green blouse and pink maxiskirt with pink wristwatch (which is actually her transformation device)
Costume: White bodysuit with light purple accents, helmet and visor.
Powers:
Jora has the element of Decay (&Rebirth), which enables her to induce decomposition in organic material.
Techniques
- While not proficient at hand to hand she can run fast in short bursts and have stamina
- Generate spore clouds to obscure vision and block a person's airways
- Increase or decrease the rate the decay
- Increase or decrease the size of mushrooms, from giant prehistoric constructs to miniature samples to be used for medicine
- Create a slippery puddle of rot to make opponents fall
- Throw globs of inky, rotting matter to create fungus or for long range
- Autumn Leaf Tornado
- Create Penicillin (first "upgrade")
- Able to "purify" corrupted Mycellium in the episode "Camp Fear"
- Scavenger-animal Empathy
- Forensics (adult level)
- Fossil Fuel Manipulation (adult level)
- Floral Manipulation (adult level, possibly teen)
- Acid Spit (adult level)
- Hallucinations (teen level)
Weaknesses
- Her power has little to no effect on material such as metal, glass, synthetic fabrics, stones
- Has to wear her gloves at all times which can be tedious and uncomfortable
- Lacks strength and hand-to-hand proficiency
- Weak to extreme heat & cold
- Shroom Constructs can be easily destroyed if not continually reinforced
- Unable to control her powers if under extreme duress
- Requires weapons to compensate for elemental weaknesses
- Requires a source for better potency
Strengths
- Immune to Time related attacks since her powers are considered a form of chronokinesis
- Create healing potions
- Immune to mycotoxins and can decrease and even render dangerous mushrooms safe for consumption (handy for outdoor missions)
- Powers seem to increase in wet environments, the Moon
- Her kind gentle personality makes it easier for her to restrain the dangerous potential of her abilities
- Memorized enough species of fungi and has her own mini lab to safely store and carry samples
- Natural empathy towards others
- Quick learner, continually studies her powers and traits to adapt
Background
Born the second child to floral shop owners Jeremy and Mavis Holiday, Jora had a normal childhood in the comfy small town of Annville, SC. A quiet child, she spent after-school helping around the shop. They were small yet popular with the townsfolk, reputed for their knowledge of plants and colorful arrangements. However that normalcy took a detour when Jora's powers camemto fruition.
When people started to notice more and more plants dying, that in turn led to decrease in customers and soon the shop began to undergo financial trouble. One day, a beautiful woman named Kudzu came into the store offering to buy the place from Jeremy. See, Kudzu was one of the wealthiest and powerful people in town. He refused. The next day Kudzu came again with another proposition. Again Jeremy refused. This occurred all through the week, until finally a very irritated Mavis demanded Kudzu to leave their family alone. That time, Kudzu left and didn't ame back after that. The couple was relieved. Jora was nervous.
One day, just as Tasha and Jora were at the last day of school anf thr parents were off to cash in their winning lottery ticket, the floral shop caught fire! The firefighters were called and put out the blaze, but it left their shop and home in charred ruins.
Jora felt very guilty: if she never had her powers, there wouldn't have been such an awful domino effect. The fire was ruled as a freak accident, however Jeremy and Mavis believed that other forces were at work. They couldn't prove their theories as their suspect had too much power and leverage to be fought one on one. So they came up with a plan: they would spend the summer working to add money to the saved money while their kids go out of town. Mavis called upon an old friend from trade school to take the girls on vacation (somewhere safe from Kudzu).
The next couple of days after staying at a shelter, the girls were able to buy a few new outfits and essentials and told to wait for a brown and white RV. When the RV arrived, out came a older gentlemen in a bright scarlet Hawaiian shirt, with two children trailing behind him. He introduced himself as Max Tennyson, and the two kids were his grandchildren Ben and Gwen.
Trivia
Jora has a nature motif to contrast Ben's aliens and Gwen's magic.
Overall Jora is the most normal member of the team; her family has no connection to the Plumbers or magic.
Jora doesn't have signature color, the closest would be pink and yellow since those are colors she tends to wear the most of.
I made Jora so that there'd be another main girl in the cast and because the show didn't have a black female character (despite having nonwhite female characters of other ethnicities, and black male characters)
She does not have a major role in UAF; instead her storyline is seen as a spinoff (think Static Shock to the Justice League) focusing on smaller-scale plots with occasional cameos from main cast
Jora does come back in Omniverse to replace Gwen as the female lead; she is joined by Dr. Azura (Secret Saturdays OC), Myra Hopewell (GenRex), Ginger T. Glass, and her cousin Patti.
It is unknown whether her power is genetics or a random mutation.
In the Ben 10000 timeline she and Ben broke up because Ben tried to forbid her from going on active missions as a way to keep her safe. Obviously she didn't like that and left. They do reconcile at the end of the episode.
Out of my OCs for this fandom Jora is the lead character, followed by Kendrix
Jora's powers can vary based on the type of fungi she's using at the time. So her colors could range from inky-black to a gorgeous green
She is a candidate to take on the mantle of Mother Nature (currently held by Mama G)
Her hobbies are: reading comics and books primarily fantasy genre, costume design, hiking, floral pressing, DIY crafts, and insects
Due to her timid nature she has a fear of public speaking.
I don't have a claim for her in the live action films sorry!!
Jora is a foil for Kevin in that she was born with destructive powers. Unlike Kevin, she learned to rely on friends to help her stabilize her powers.
- A recurring subplot is the girls encountering and escaping from Kudzu's hired goons sent to track them down.
Jora was going to have standard plants and flowers as her power but I wanted to go for nontraditional elements instead.
The irony is that she's a softie dressed in bright colors and respects life, yet has a power related to death.
- At the end of the show she reunites with her parents and they're able to rebuild their business. She also stands up to Kudzu and exposes the woman for the rotten POS she is
Quotes:
"Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet face!"
"I like comic books. My favorite is the Fantasia Legends."
"If you're supposed to be Lucky Girl then why dress up like a black cat?"
"There's a lot of stories hidden beneath these trees. You just gotta know where to look."
"I'm not that scared little girl you used to pick on, Ben. I think you know I can take care of myself."
"Look I didn't get to choose my powers okay! But Kudzu chose to set our family's house on fire and I'm not gonna sit back and watch her hurt anyone else!"
"It's okay. I'll help you."
"It's called having good manners. You should try it sometimes."
"Leave. Them. Alone!"
"Please let this be a normal day this time!"
"You're like a mushroom. Unassuming at first, but something unique and vibrant!"
"Ben I don't know how to say this but... you're not alone. Don't ever think you're alone."
"I hope you'll be able to see that there's more to life than just money and business but until that day comes, we'll all do very well without you!"
"I may make things rot but the both of you are rotten to the core!"
Recent Pictures
Reference sheets for Omniverse
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