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systemuserboxes · 1 day
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[alt1; userbox reads "this little identifies / relates to stuffies / stuffed animals"]
[alt2; userbox reads "this little identifies / relates to stuffies / stuffed animals"]
[alt3; userbox reads "this little identifies / relates to stuffies / stuffed animals"]
[alt4; userbox reads "this little identifies / relates to stuffies / stuffed animals"]
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thedivine-emojis · 10 days
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THE GREAT PAPYRUS!!! | emote dump
emotes made for our papyrus fictive! fictionkins, doubles and singlets please feel free to use these as well! (PRO)ENDOS, DNI!
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flagsandtags · 18 days
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Polyfragmented
Polyfragmentation is when a DID system has many parts, at least 1 subsystem and complex splitting patterns
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Flag made by Saturn !!
Reclaimed??? The only times I've ever seen the most commonly used flag the uploader was pro endo, the flag is also on pluralpedia which is a very pro endo site, so this might be a reclaiming
If not this can just be an alternative flag !!
[ENDOS DNI]
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truthfully-system · 2 months
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Just saw a post of someone complaining about how "glorified" talk about systemhood (or more spesifically, DID/OSDD, cuz theyre anti-endo) is online
... and then venting about how awful their system expirience is
Imagine if all you saw online about systemhood, were people venting about how awful this disorder is and how hopeless they feel, this disorder THAT YOU CANT GET RID OF EVER
Just imagine it, imagine if you didnt have an arm and there was nothing empowering, nothing engouraging, nothing loving online about that, only people saying how awful it is.
Its no wonder anti-endos are so angry and depressed, they surround themselves with people who hate positivity about their own disorder, a disorder they'll never truly get rid of, thats like hating the fact you are cursed to feel emotions and when anyone mentions how good happiness can feel you go "OH WELL I AM SAD AND ANGRY AND I WISH EVERYONE ONLY TALKED ABOUT THOSE EMOTIONS!"
Like bro, chill, youll have DID/OSDD in your grave, learn to glamorize it, learn to love parts of it, yes, you'll never be "normal", so find a community of people who arent "normal" so you can feel normal among them.
-Host
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angelcovesys · 6 days
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Host drew this of myself and a friend system's Bive. I think he's rather neat! Lyrics are from Touch-Tone Telephone by Lemon Demon.
@dragonsden-system
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pupbi · 1 year
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Hi -may I ask about the endo thing in your dni? I didn't know what it was before I saw a post of yours and since I'm not a system or a doctor or anything I don't know what the issue is (the info I found basically just said they form on their own?) I've tried to be supportive of systems as best I could given I'm not one, so I guess technically right now I'm neutral just because I don't understand what the problem is. Obv I'll listen to a system before a rando source. (Also wanted to ask if it's ok to interact if I don't have an agere sideblog, since mine is all mixed up there's stuff that may not be suitable for small children but it's all tagged. I'm a traumagenic age regressor and anything related to that is completely sfw)
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(This post contains syscourse)
Explanation is below the cut since it's a lot + I typically wouldn't bring discourse to my blog, and as long as your blog isn't primarily nsfw/kink we don't mind interaction. I want to apologize in advance if this seems "too long" or mashed together
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In short, systems are the result of repetitive childhood trauma, being a system is not a normal brain thing it can't "just happen" The process of the brain forming dissociated states is a last resort decision, a child was traumatized to the point the brain could not handle it and did not think it would survive on its own.
A breakdown of Structural Dissociation & how systems form:
Structural Dissociation is the assumption that no one is born with a fully integrated personality. Instead, children operate based off of a collection of different ego states that handle their different needs- feeding, attachment to a caregiver, exploring the world around them. Over time, these separate ego states naturally integrate into one singular personality, usually by ages 6-9, this is what causes non-systems/singlets, this is the expected outcome. Systems form when childhood trauma disrupts the process and the different ego states are left unable to merge with each other due to conflicting needs, traumatic memories, or learned action paths or responses to trauma. If systems could just "spontaneously form" without trauma, this origin would be widely known from all the years of research that has been poured into DiD/OSDD. (Taken from here)
You can also read about tertiary structural dissociation (DID) here
And secondary (OSDD) here
The endogenic community itself is a cesspool of misinformation, stolen terms from RAMCOA survivors, cultural appropriation, racism, harmful stereotypes, and just in general, toxic.
Misinfo, harmful stereotypes, toxicity (This is our experience from being in endo spaces) :
Spreading the idea that you can develop a trauma-formed dissociative disorder, without having trauma. This is harmful to those who have did/osdd, as we are an already stigmatized group under the guise that we're "possessed" and have an evil alters that'll gonna murder you (thank you Split /s) if I were to start saying something like "I have (C-)PTSD but have never experienced a traumatic event ever! You can have (C-)PTSD without trauma" that would be horrible
The idea that alters can "die" or that fusion/final fusion is equivalent to "alter death".
We've seen discussions of "who's trauma was worse" when traumagenic systems talk about their trauma
I've seen endos encourage systems to NOT go through with final fusion (I believe every system has their own right to decide what their long term goal is, whether it be final fusion or managing their life with did/osdd/udd, but actively discouraging final fusion is not ok imo)
Saying that system accountability is a bad thing. Holding your alters responsible for their actions is not a negative thing.
RAMCOA stolen terms-
Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, and Organized Abuse (RAMCOA) which you can read about here, endos have taken terms from RAMCOA survivors and twisted the actual meaning of the terms, here's some of them with their actual definition:
System hopping: moving from one side-system to another. (Not from one singlur system to another)
Side-system: a "system" that is seperate from the main one.
System reset: when abusers force dormancy in the majority of alters.
Shell alter: a fragment alter who's purpose is to mask the current fronter so that detecting switches becomes more difficult
(This was from our time spent in RAMCOA friendly spaces and talking with survivors)
Cultural appropriation/racism
Within the endogenic community are (western) tulpa "systems", tulpas are intentionally created by imagining a person into the mind and treating them as a real entity. Western Tulpamancy is a bastardization of Tibitian Buddhism. "Tulpa" is a term that comes from Tibetan and Indian Buddhism.
Alter race, "It is never alright to claim to be a race that the body is not. One can be an introject of a person of colour, or one can look a certain way in the inner world (have darker or lighter skin tone) but race is so much more complex than appearance alone. For us POC, race goes well beyond how we look. Our race is also defined by how other people discriminate against us for our heritage and how our family has raised us in our traditions. A white person cannot claim to have these experiences of discrimination and tradition which define a POC. One cannot claim to be a POC alter in a white body because they simply do not have the experiences of one. To claim to be a POC despite lacking these experiences is simply rude. Race is also defined by how others treat you, and in being part of a white system, one lacks the [discrimination] that comes with being of colour. Your understanding of a POC's race is that—an outsider’s understanding of a closed group. Being POC changes how we perceive the world and how the world perceives us, and a white person just isn’t capable of understanding these differences in perception because they are experiences which are exclusive to POC. This also applies to POC claiming alters from other POC groups. A Korean system is a Korean system and cannot have Arabic alters because they are still an outsider to that culture. Just as a white system can’t claim POC alters, a POC system cannot claim alters of a culture they’re not bodily part of. It also applies to introjects: no matter an introject’s source, that introject is going to be the same race and ethnicity as the system and body. You cannot claim to be a different race or ethnicity through your interpretation of a piece of media. While your gender can be different from your body’s, your race cannot, because unlike race you self-identify with your gender. Race and ethnicity is assigned to you by the world around you based on your physical body at birth." (This explanation was taken from here [yes, its a carrd] as they explained it better than I could)
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I couldn't decide where these statements could go so they're just on their own
Not remembering your trauma is something entirely different from claiming systemhood without trauma
"You can be a system without having did/osdd, they're not the same" I have yet to see any (real) sources on that, it's possible to not meet the diagnostic criteria for DiD/OSDD, but systemhood outside of that? Still, not credible sources
I very often hear "but the DSM doesnt have trauma in the diagnostic criteria, this means systems dont have to have trauma to form!" The DSM doesn't have "trauma" as a diagnostic criteria because they would need to be 100% sure that this happens, which means they would have traumatize children to be 100% sure if childhood trauma is the only cause. I shouldn't have to say this, but that's unethical (here is a PDF link to the full DSM5)
Here's soms more links about the link between childhood trauma and DiD/OSDD, as well as anything else I mentioned in here that I just couldn't find an appropriate place to put
NAMI
DID Research
NCBI
APA
McLean
Mayo Clinic
AAMFT
Being a system is a disorder, not a hobby, its not fun, it's not an identity/label that you can just slap on like with gender or pronouns.
Endos & their supporters dont even touch this bc I'm not going to bring any further discourse to my blog, respect our boundaries
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swivelseat · 1 year
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Emoji account that doesn’t support endos
I tip my hat to you sir /ref
Right?? Its so annoying when accs are like "i wont state how i feel on endos" bc like how do i know i can trust u....... sorry this is so low quality lol i just woke up
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sovereignsystem · 16 days
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Hi! Y'all seem cool and the endo post remakes beloved, i hate finding banger posts just to find out it was made by an endo, doing the good work out here
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Thank you!! That means a lot to us actually, especially because we've been criticized before for doing them.
We ALSO hate finding posts that would otherwise be awesome if it weren't for the poster being (pro) endo or something. It's our way of contributing <3
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mimi-edits-for-you · 1 year
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Hello! My name is Miku, but you can call me Mimi! I use They/Them pronouns!
I'm a protector in the Milky Way Collective, and I adore doing edits~!
This is a blog for systems and kins! Please specify if its a kin request or an introject request~ :)
| Here's what I will make |
-Stimboards
-Icons
-DNI banners*
-Moodboards
-Banners
-Replycons (Reply icons)
-Wallpapers (please specify size!)
-Self-care kits*
-Color picked pride flags
-Doodles
*Selective
| Sources |
I take sources off this list, I may be selective with them, however
Pokemon
Vocaloid and other synthesizers
Creepypasta
Overwatch 1 & 2
My Hero Academia
Black Butler
Five nights at freddy's
Danganronpa (all games)
My Little Pony
Land of the lustrous (Manga and anime)
Warrior cats
Hades (game)
MCYT (EmpiresSMP, DreamSMP, Hermitcraft, etc)
DHMIS
Madoka Magica
Saga of tanya the evil
Kakegurui
Love live
OC's (Please send a transparent image in your ask!)
| Banned sources |
Homestuck :(
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cinooscatcafe · 1 year
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Ccino's Cat Café!
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Hello Hello!! My name is ccino but you can call me waiter! I'm from a system! I'm taken by a sys member and we aren’t looking for a third party! (no matter what he says.)
I'm not really doing much here currently... so it'll be all over the place! Maybe I'll make some genders or or talk about random drinks and pastries, maybe some cat facts? Not too sure!
I'm an adult, an ageless adult sure but still an adult! Though nothing nsfw is going to be on here, maybe talk about how bodies work but nothing else of the sort! I want this to be as friendly as possible!
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If you want to get a random system fact then simply just put ☕️ and I'll think of something!
You can see this as an askblog if you wish, but just know that this is me being an actual person! I'm not roleplay, even if I don't mind roleplaying— I'm a skeletal being behind a screen!
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My source is Fluffytale! I love talking about what I remember in source so feel free to ask with just a simple 🐾 emoji!
I don't mind public displays of affection, Messages, Text Touch, Petnames (platonically), sourcetalk of any kind or mentions! However, please ask before venting to me as sometimes I won't feel comfortable with it..!
Tagging system so far??
Waiter Talks —☕️
Waiter Reblogs —☕️
Bone appetite! —☕️
Special Guest —🍷
Cat Facts —🐾
Sys Facts —🐾
Source Talk —🐾
* Sys facts are facts about our headmates! Not all of them are 'fun' facts but they are facts nonetheless!
* Bone appetite are for anons!
* Special Guest is for my partner!
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Tagging random headmates ! @ventifool @scarafool @ecplises-mailman @stars4-max
Main System Blog ! @snowdinne
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systemuserboxes · 6 days
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[alt1; userbox reads "this system doesn't force source separation"]
[alt2; userbox reads "this system doesn't force source separation"]
[alt3; userbox reads "this system doesn't force source separation"]
[alt4; userbox reads "this system doesn't force source separation"]
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thedivine-emojis · 16 days
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TEEFS!
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tqsg · 1 year
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once again posting about how we want (anti nontraumagenic) system friends !! feel free to dm us!! /nf (bonus if ur an autistic system!!)
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hereticannibal · 1 year
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Another wonderful day waking up and being proud that I don’t support nontraumagenic / endo “systems” .
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angelcovesys · 22 days
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BE NOT AFRAID
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we collectively go by "box", "the divine", or "angels", if you must
bodily 21 | engaged | audhd, ocd, udd
we are a traumagenic system of 10. we are not angels in a religious sense, just a few whackos with a knack for thematics. /aff
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INTRODUCTIONS
ANGEL ASHEL | ANGEL RORY | ANGEL EDEN
ANGEL SONIC | ANGEL WILSON
ANGEL JANE | ANGEL DELL
ANGEL RARITY | ANGEL PAPYRUS
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dni below.
do not under any circumstances interact:
endo/tulpa/willo/non-traumagenic, syscourse, abdl/ddlg or any variants, proship, people who sexualize petre/agere, people just looking to talk to our fictives, anti-recovery, people who villify persecutors and anger holders, people only searching for sourcemates
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sirenium · 6 months
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'Safequeer' mfers when people are queer in a way they don't like:
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[GIF ID: a toy decor skeleton getting absolutely eviscerated in a blue shredder with silver blades. Said skeleton looks like it's thrashing and flailing about as it slowly gets consumed. End ID]
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