#and dont even get me started on all the relationships they put nancy in but n*ce especially . FUCK n*ce always and forever

[hazardsoflove]

ndcw is so tragic to me bc they took one of my favorite things in the world (nancy drew) and combined it with more of my favorite things in the world (murder mystery, supernatural elements) but then ruined Everything in just a matter of episodes

#it getting cancelled was the best news to Me #off the bat calling ned nick was a red flag to me but so way george not being a lesbian #*was #but anyway after they broke up ned and nancy and then didnt even let them try to get back together it was downhill for me #i still like s1 but when they started introducing the ned/george relationship 🤢 #like sorry theyre best friends. and george is a lesbian #and dont even get me started on all the relationships they put nancy in but n*ce especially . FUCK n*ce always and forever #i was popping major bottles when they killed off owen in s1 i wanted ace to die so bad in the s3 finale bc i hate him sm #i liked him at first but n*ce made me hate his guts #at least i have solace in the fact that n*ce shippers only get this show while nedcy is forever canon and has been for nearly 100 years #in every other iteration of nancy drew <333 #also in s4 if they reveal ace is actually joe hardy i Will commit acts of insane violence. thats MY boy get the fuck away from him #im very rarely a multishipper but i hate nancy/either of the hardy boys (but especially frank in the ndpc games) So much #its literally nedcy or bust for me idc #and it had a banger cast too. like kennedy tunji leah and maddison SLAYED as their respective characters. like they were perfect #the writers just fumbled and flopped BIG time #anyway the version of nd that exists in my head you will always be famous. ill write that fic ive been planning for years eventually #r.txt

[girasollake]

it must’ve slipped out | pt.2

pairing: ???steve harrington x fem!reader???

summary: follow up to the first part which you can read here

warnings: curse words, mentions of sex/insecurities/feeling like shit, kinda toxic relationship idk? mentions of damage to the body(?) idk what else to put there

type: angst

a/n: it is finally here after so many of you guys requested it! i won’t be doing a next part, this is the last one, but if you guys want to request something then do it!, i have 2 requests rn on my list and 3 works of my own that i want to write:) i hope you guys will enjoy this part and if you dont then well, im sorry<\3 hope yall are having a nice day/night! 🧡 oh and, the last sentence is purely for your own interpretation

word count: about 2k

part 1

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The whole group was walking towards the Wheeler’s house in hopes to get a hold of the guns which Nancy mentioned she had had in her room. Robin, Nancy and Steve were in the front, (Y/n) and Eddie slowly following them in the back.

“You seem off today.” Whispered Eddie leaning his head towards the girl.

“Huh? Oh. I don’t know why, maybe it’s because we’re in a different, much scarier dimension.” She smiled at him.

“Oh yeah, right. I forgot about that for a second.”

“Really? I can’t focus on anything besides this dust, or whatever it is. I keep inhaling it, nasty shit.” She coughed.

“Is everything okay between you and Harrington?” he asked quietly. “Sorry if that’s too straightforward.”

“Sure, why wouldn’t it be?” her gaze finding Steve. “We’re fine.”

“Yeah, I’m not buying that.”

“What do you mean?”

“It’s the way you look at him. I have to admit you don’t even try to hide it very well.”

“I look at him… normally.” She sighed. “It’s just… never mind.”

“Did he do something stupid?”

“Yeah, you could say that…” she replied hesitantly.

“Do you want to talk about it?”

“Um, I don’t think this is the time and place for that.” She replied quietly lowering her head at the same time. “He just… his actions make me feel insecure about myself”

“What? Well I don’t know the whole story and shit but I think you’re gorgeous if that means something to you. Don’t base your confidence on what other people think.” The girl chuckled quietly at his response. “And screw him if he makes you feel like that.”

“Thank you Eddie, that cheered me up a bit.”

“Always at your service.” He winked at her and smiled widely.

Suddenly something interrupted their conversation, the ground started shaking uncontrollably.

“I HATE EARTHQUAKES” (Y/n) heard Robin yell.

Everyone grabbed onto something except for (Y/n) who fell on the ground scraping her arms and knees, one wound would for sure turn into a scar later on. When all of it stopped she felt someone pulling her up.

“Shit, are you okay?” She locked eyes with Steve, his arm holding her waist.

“Yeah, yeah. I’m fine.” She replied.

In a moment others were quickly at her side.

“Can you walk?” (Y/n) heard Robin say.

“Yeah, I think so. I just have some scratches, that’s all.” She said smiling at her, Robin reciprocating the gesture. “We better get going before those nasty monsters find us again or even worse.”

“Yeah, I’m not taking part in another earthquake.” Robin mumbled and offered (Y/n) her arm to walk together.

After they got out of the forest Nancy saw her house in the distance. Luckily, they didn’t have to walk for much longer. When they reached her house she slowly unlocked the door and rushed upstairs, Robin and Eddie following her. (Y/n) was left with Steve, she really hoped to get out of this world as quick as possible, all of this negative energy was taking a toll on her.

“Are you sure you’re okay?” Steve asked her approaching slowly.

No. I’m not.

“Yes, why wouldn’t I be?” she lifted the corner of her mouth.

“No reason.” He smiled. “Just worried about you”

Then (Y/n) heard something coming from the living room. She went past Steve to enter the room. Was that a voice?

“Dustin?” she whispered. “Steve come here!”

“What is it?”

“Just listen.” Both of them started slowly making circles around the room. “Do you hear it?”

“Is that Henderson? Holy shit. DUSTIN!” Their screams started filling up the house, the rest of their friends quickly running downstairs.

After they found a way to communicate with Dustin they decided to meet him and the others at the gate in Eddie’s trailer. Everyone got a bike from Nancy’s house, fortunately she had like six of them, maybe more. When they arrived at their destination they started getting out of this shit-hole. (Y/n) decided she wants to go first, Robin was quickly at her side to catch her if she slipped or something. She didn’t want any help but Steve insisted and pushed her upwards which made her feel even more insecure than before. It was just a nice gesture right? Wrong. For her it meant that he didn’t believe she could climb that rope on her own. She thought that if it was Nancy or Robin who went first he wouldn’t push up neither of them, because in his eyes they were capable of doing it on their own. When she fell onto the stained mattress she quickly got up to hide behind Max. She wondered why she had decided to go first. Tears started forming in her eyes because she felt like a failure. All of this was just too much for her. When everyone got out of the Upside Down they hid Eddie somewhere and all went over to their homes. However before (Y/n) left Robin quickly caught up to her.

“Hey um, I was wondering if maybe you’d like to have a girls night after all of this is over? I just thought both of us will need it.”

“Sure, I’d love that.” She smiled. ”Is um.. Nancy coming too?”

“I know how things are between you so um… she won’t be coming.”

“Thank you Robin. I’ll see you later!” She quickly hugged her and turned around to find Steve who insisted to go with her to her house.

He knew that her dad was out of town and her mom had a night shift that day, he had hoped to spend some time with her, alone.  She didn’t want him to go inside, but she gave up, as always. (Y/n) had to admit she needed his attention but sadly her mind was still occupied with the thoughts that he was imagining she was Nancy.

“Thank you for helping Nance back there.” He smiled at her when they entered the kitchen.

Of course, Nance again.

She just smiled at him and went on to make some tea for both of them.

“Is everything okay?”

“God, can you stop asking me that!?” she raised her voice which surprised the boy. “I am so fucking tired of this question. Of the constant feeling like a fucking burden Steve. When you ask that I feel as if I’m just in your way and that’s making me feel so miserable.”

“Baby, you know it’s not like that. I just worry about you a lot and I’m so sorry you feel that way.” He came closer to her and embraced her. Her body stiff against his. “Is there anything I can do to make you feel better?”

She snorted and then broke out of the hug to look him in the eyes.

“How about you start with saying my name instead of Nancy’s when we are having sex?” Her tone was cold, eyes staring into his with pain and anger.

“What are you talking about?” He chuckled in hopes to diffuse the tension between them.

“Was what I said not clear for you?” She then completely left his side to continue making her tea.

“Yeah it was clear, I just don’t understand where it came from?”

Pure confusion was written on Steve’s face. (Y/n) placed the kettle on the stove and turned it on. Then she turned around to face him, her hands gripping the kitchen countertop. She inhaled deeply to calm herself down, she was never the one to throw tantrums or fight with people.

“You said her name.” A small tear started to fall down her cheek which she quickly wiped away. “When we had sex, that night when your parents weren’t home.”

He just stared at her in disbelief.

“No, I couldn’t have said that.”

“Why do you think I left that night?” She paused for a second. “Oh and if you really think that my mom needed help with something, think twice.”

“Okay well if I really said it then I’m sorry. I don’t even know why I would do it.”

“Sorry won’t make this right Steve!” She raised her voice, she couldn’t keep her anger inside anymore, no matter how hard she tried. “I feel like I take up a second place in your life, that Nancy is still the person you hold closest to your heart. You said her name because you’re still not over her.”

“You know it’s not true.” He snorted.

“Well what if it is?” Her hand which was rested on her forehead started slowly sliding down her face. “I think that if we want to continue this…” Her pointed finger going back and forth between them. “…relationship or whatever you call it, you need to get over her. And for now I cannot see you doing that. Today you were so worried about her and I get it! Yeah she got hurt, but why didn’t you help her get on that stupid rope? You helped me because you think I’m not capable of that stuff and you feel sorry for me! I bet you are with me only because you feel pity for me!”

“Okay now you are just making shit up! You know it was never like that! I do NOT feel sorry for you! Why would you even think that? I love you!” He yelled.

“Love me? You love me and moan Nancy’s name, huh? You love me but you always look at her, you love me but you always go to her when she needs you, you love me and yet I constantly feel like you don’t.”

They both stood there in silence, warm tears now falling freely down (Y/n)’s face.

“I think we need a break.” She managed to say quietly.

“What? What the fuck?”

“You need to rethink what I mean to you, what Nancy means to you. I can’t be with you when you always make me feel like I’m the other woman.” She looked into his eyes and continued. “When you figure out your feelings, we’ll talk. We might even get back together. But right now you need space and I do too.”

Steve was angry and she could feel it, but he wasn’t the type to be mad at her, especially now when it was certain she was the victim in this situation. He started thinking about the last month and all the situations with Nance. Maybe (Y/n) was right? Maybe he really needed time to think all of this through?

“Okay.” He whispered. “I…I’m sorry. I’m sorry for being an idiot. And making you feel that way.”

“It’s okay.” She smiled and wiped her nose with the back of her hand. “Let me walk you out.”

He obeyed and followed the girl outside. She gave him a quick hug and went back inside without looking back. He stood there for some time just watching her house and thinking how did he screw this up so bad. In the meantime (Y/n) went to the kitchen in hopes to finally drink her tea and get her mind off of Steve. She thought that maybe they just aren’t made for each other. She also thought that no one will like her, she was surprised when she found out he had liked her in the first place and now it’s all gone.

Little did she know, she had already caught someone else’s eye.

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[demadogs]

would love to hear more about your S5 Mike arc take

HELL YES!!! happy to share!!!! so some of these are genuine predictions with evidence from what ive seen in the show, but some of it is more of a fanficy kinda vibe of scenarios that are plausible but not influenced by genuine predictions i have. for those that i am confident in, i will link my posts explaining the evidence that supports my prediction. the first few parts are more genuine predictions and the later parts are just my brain making shit up.

also this isnt gonna be one of my “why i think this will happen” posts, im just going to write out mikes entire s5 story arc the way i see it in my head.

how it starts

so s5 starts out where we left off. mike and el still together but a little distant. theyre not fighting or anything but theyre not anything like s3 when they were constantly ditching their friends to makeout. people around them dont see an issue in their relationship but they both know its not what either of them want. (if youve read carry on i see them as how agatha and simon were portrayed at the beginning of the book).

the byers need housing back in hawkins and el wants to stay with hopper in his trailer while they work to fix up the cabin. the rest of the byers stay at the wheelers. jonathans sleeping in nancys room and will is sleeping in mikes.

mike and will have a couple more moments like we saw in s4 that could make it obvious that something might be up with both of them. maybe a conversation similar to the “hawkins isnt the same without you” scene. a scene of them both getting ready for bed talking about what they think is gonna happen next with vecna and everything. not the first night, but eventually maybe mike tells him to sleep in bed with him if will has a nightmare or something. little things like that.

the supernatural plot escalates and will and vecna have a deeper connection than anyone else. vecna is going to torture will in some way so im thinking maybe one of vecna’s methods of torturing will is to torture mike. vecna and will would have different interactions and conflict but mike would be vecna’d in the same style that max was.

how the audience and el learn mike is gay:

(this ones a genuine prediction. heres a post talking about why i think so but read it after you read this)

so now mike is cursed. no one knows including mike. everyones so caught up on protecting will because they all believe he is in the most danger so no one is looking after mike. then mike falls into that trance. (this is maybe 4 episodes in.) the whole partys there when it happens. el immediately puts on a blindfold and static noise and tries to piggyback into mikes mind to fight vecna the way she did with max.

mike doesnt know el is there while hes tranced. he doesnt see el the way max did. maybe el tries to touch him and mike feels a weird phantom feeling on his arm and he looks at it in confusion but he doesnt see el at all.

mike is in the mind lair and hes calling for will. he hears vecnas voice saying his full name. then he sees vecna and he starts saying shit about “friends dont lie” hes asking what happened to that motto and wasnt he the one who insisted that friends dont lie in the first place? “but youve been lying to everyone havent you michael”.

mike is shaking his head and vecna has him cornered and hes denying it but obviously terrified and he says he doesnt know what hes talking about and vecna says “you know exactly what im talking about. its not my fault you dont like girls”. and THATS the line that reveals to the audience that hes gay.

then maybe mike is able to run away but then he starts seeing shit. he ends up in his own basement and sees will and believes hes out of the trance and hugs will but he shrugs him off and tells him “dont touch me”. his eyes are all wrong and hes realizing hes not awake yet. vecna will starts calling him out on his feelings, telling him he would never love him back, that he doesnt even wanna be friends anymore. mike runs away and he just keeps seeing visions like this of everyone he loves. his family not accepting him. his friends not accepting him. el being mad at him for lying.

we are seeing els reactions to all of this too. shes been trying to use her powers to stop vecna this whole time. eventually in her pov everything goes completely black and shes in that weird void thing meaning that mike must be out of the trance. she hears mike panting and crying and takes off her blindfold and sees him awake with will holding his hand or shoulder and him looking at the ground.

eventually he looks up and sees el and at first his face doesnt change but then he sees her holding the blindfold and a pile of tissues with blood on them next to her and he connects the dots and starts to panic. will tries to reassuringly tell him that el was piggybacking trying to save him not realizing thats why hes freaking out. el says his name and tries to calm him down but he just gets up and locks himself alone in a room.

little pause for a second… listen. MIKE IS OVERDUE FOR A FULL ON PANIC ATTACK OK!!!!! we see will express his emotions every single season!! the last time we saw mike completely break down was in s2 when he was yelling at hopper. ever since then hes been trying so hard to bury his feelings and be someone hes not and make sure NO ONE finds out about him and now hes been outed to his girlfriend. he would completely break down. like full on sobbing, maybe throwing up. I WANT HIM TO EXPRESS EMOTIONS EVEN IF THEYRE TERRIBLE ONES!!!!!

el and mikes final breakup/ mikes first coming out:

mike is having a full on panic attack. hes on the floor crying and el is outside of it. he locked the door but el needs to see him so she tells him shes coming in and she uses her powers and opens the door. she closes it and sits next to mike on the floor. at this point hes silently crying and his hands are shaking but hes not as bad he was a few minutes ago. theyre both silent for a bit. mike speaks first and he whispers “did you see all of it?” el says yes.

mike starts to cry more and just starts apologizing profusely and el stops him by just pulling him into tight hug and he hugs her back for a long time. he starts telling her that he never wanted to hurt her. el tries to tell him shes not hurt right now but mike argues and tells her that hes hurt her so much in the past. he tells her that he made her feel like she was unlovable and that she was the issue when he knew deep down that it was him. that there was something fundamentally wrong with him. el tries to tell him theres nothing wrong with him but he insists that there is.

then el admits that she doesnt think she ever was truly in love with him either. she tells him that they both were just trying to do what everyone expected them to do. she didnt know any better because she had just left the lab and was still figuring out how to be a person, let alone a girlfriend. and people expected mike to like her just because she was a girl so he just went with it even after he realized he didnt feel that way. neither of them have ever been true to themselves for as long as theyve known each other. she tells him that he taught her what a friend was. and she missed her friend mike and wants to go back to that. mike tells her he wants that too and they hug again. (i want this scene to be the sweetest most wholesome breakup ever).

theyd also have a conversation of el being confused on whats wrong with him liking a boy. i think it would be really beneficial for mike to hear from someone who was never taught to hate people like him. it would give him so much relief to see potentially the number one person he never wanted to know just be absolutely baffled on why its a bad thing.

while theyre still hugging el says “for what its worth i think he likes you back” mike denies it and el insists that the way he looks at him says everything but mike wont even listen hes convinced he could never love him back.

then mike remembers something and asks a question. “what about the painting?”. els confused. she asks what hes talking about he tells her that will said she commissioned him a painting for her. “if you really didnt love me then whyd you have will paint me that?” she tells him she never told will to paint anything. mike is confused and telling her everything will said in the van. that he gives her the courage to fight on and he needs her. he asks what all that was about if she didnt feel that way and shes just confused. “he wouldnt even show me what he was working on. i told you i thought it was for someone he likes.”

“but it was for me.” el smiles and mike is still not convinced but hes kinda going crazy.

so now mike and el are broken up in the most wholesome way ever and theyre on better terms than theyve ever been but everyone thinks theyre still together. and mike for the first time thinks theres a chance will loves him back and he doesnt know how to act or ask him about it.

mike and will in the upside down:

(the only thing that led me to believe mike and will would be stuck in the upside down together was the upside down couch they sat on in the cabin. other than that this is entirely just what my brain came up with, not an actual prediction)

so skipping ahead, the vecna/upside down plot is getting spicier. shits going down. honestly im WAY better at imagining/predicting gay plots than scifi plots so i have no fucking clue whats going on with vecna and shit its just wild rn thats all you need to know.

i imagine almost all of them having to be in the upside down for some reason. then theres a scenario with some kinda monster like a demodog where they have to sprint to the gate back to real hawkins to be safe but the gate is closing back up. it would look like max’s running up that hill scene. theyre all getting closer and closer but then mike falls (classic) and will sees and goes back to him. the gate is closing more. he helps him up and they both start sprinting again but they dont make it. the whole gate closes up right when they get there and now theyre completely separated from all the friends and family and are alone in the upside down.

theyre able to defeat whatever was after them (will with a gun 👀) but now theyre stuck. maybe they get in a little argument where mike says “i told you to go on without me!!” and wills like “you think i would just leave you here!!!???” they both sit down against the wall the gate was on (like a brick wall or something). they try to come up with a plan and will brings up that maybe el help them some way and he mentions her being mikes girlfriend and mike tells him they broke up. wills very surprised about this. he asks if hes ok and mike tells him its better this way and he means it. (its now been a couple days since they broke up). they hear distant sounds of a monster and tells mike they shouldnt be here. theyre too exposed. (keep in mind mike is being kinda awkward because hes still thinking about the painting and what will said in the van that day and wondering if el was right and that will does love him back but he hasnt brought it up to him yet.)

they get up and make their way to the upside down wheelers house. they enter through the basement and its the same that it looked the day will went missing. the table is set up with the dnd campaign they were playing on november 6th 1983. mike tries to get comfortable on the couch but will just cant stop looking at the table. then he sees the dice on the floor with a 7 pointed up and they flashback to s1 of will telling mike it was a 7.

mike says his name and will remembers hes there and kinda startles and mike asks if hes okay and he just tells him that its just weird seeing everything from that day again. mike agrees. they get more quiet and tense thinking about that night will went missing.

mike brings up that they never finished the campaign. that he was begging his mom for the him and lucas and dustin to stay for 20 more minutes. he tells will he wonders if everything wouldve been different if he had stay. if vecna wouldve grabbed some other kid and they wouldve never known about this other world beneath them.

theyre thinking about that first night will went missing and mike asks if wills ok being back here again. he tells him its not as bad this time around because hes not alone. mike starts to get emotional thinking about when will was missing and he opens up to will about it. he tells him about how they all were there at the quarry when they found his “body”. will didnt know they were all there. he tells him that it was the worst night of his life because he thought he lost him forever. then he goes into talking about when the mindflayer had him and he thought he was losing him again, and then how will moved away. hes starting to cry because he has a deep fear of losing will for good and hes at a huge risk with vecna right now and hes so scared something will happen to him. will reassures him and tells him “im right here” and mike is silently crying and will just pulls him into a hug and they stay hugging for a long time. will tells him “im not going anywhere” while still hugging him.

they separate from the hug but still have their arms around each other and dont let go. its kinda awkward. mike is the one making it awkward. he looks like he wants to say something but isnt and is looking wills lips a lot and theyre so close to each other. will thinks he knows what hes thinking but doesnt dare say anything to ruin it so he just lightly nods his head as if to give mike permission if whats hes thinking is true. and then mike leans in and kisses him.

(IT HAS TO BE A SOFT TENDER KISS I DONT LIKE ALL THE MAKEOUT SESSION HEADCANONS I JUST WANT IT TO BE SWEET!!!!)

mike pulls back and at first he looks like hes about to panic but wills just looking at him with the biggest smile and it immediately puts him at ease. mike says “the painting was from you” and will doesnt know what hes talking about at first so mike continues “you said it was from el but it was from you” will confirms that it was. “and everything you said after…” “yes it was all from me” and mike kisses him again. (i also am imagining this as like the second to last episode)

(another more dramatic first kiss i have in mind is during a huge supernatural conflict and its just them and they completely believe theres no way theyre making it out alive and will is telling him that this is it and mike just kisses him right before all hell breaks loose)

post kiss byler

but of course we cant have nice things right away so theres a bit more angst before theyre a completely established couple. they fall asleep on the couch together in the upside down and in the morning they wake up and something chaotic upsidedown related is happening. again, i truly cannot even begin to guess/predict any of the actual scifi plot of the show so dont ask me what this is but its SOMETHING OK.

they dont even have time to acknowledge the kiss the night before or the fact that they woke up in each others arms. they have to fight whatever the conflict is in the upside down.

eventually they are able to escape the upside down and reunite with everyone. once theyre back with all their friends and family but mikes acting a little different again. hes shutting will out again and will is so confused.

(this is loosely inspired by the show the wilds. shelby whos very closeted and comes from an extremely homophobic family is on a deserted island with a bunch of girls and she falls for one of them whos out and she basically tells her “youre FREE here you dont have all that family trauma youre literally on a deserted island” so she kisses her. then later she sees a boat in the distance and she hesitates to make a signal with the fire because shes so scared to go back to her normal life with her homophobic family. mike is kinda experiencing that here. hes back in the “normal” world and is going back to trying to be who they want him to be, not who he just was with will.)

mike is kind of ignoring will when theyre around everyone. he deliberately doesnt sit next to him, he only talks to him when will talks first, hes basically scared that everyone can tell what they did. then will finally finds him alone and talks to him. at first hes hopeful and trying to be kinda flirty and make him laugh and mike barely has a reaction and then will confronts him.

“did that kiss mean nothing to you” mike immediately looks up from what hes doing and makes sure no one else is in the room and will notices. “what?” will tells him hes been different since they got back and hes acting like nothing happened and hes barely acting like theyre friends let alone anything more. and theyre both silent and will says “are we anything more?” and mike thinks before he speaks and then tells him that he did that in a world where there were no other humans. no laws, no expectations, no people to say that what they did was wrong. “thats not the case here.” and will gets mad at this and says something like “so what are you just gonna drop everything and be what everyone else says you should be?” mike doesnt answer and then will asks again “did it mean nothing to you?” and then theyre interrupted before mike could answer.

then later maybe the same day, mike is going somewhere to tell one of the older kids something or to get something related to what their big battle plan is and he sees robin and vickie through a window in a different room kissing and being super happy and flirty with each other. he stops in his tracks and just watches them and hes in total shock because he felt like there was no one like him his whole life and people like him couldnt be as happy as what hes seeing right now. he just continues watching them laugh while holding each other. i also think it would be great if steve was also there and he sees this former asshole douche being supportive of his best friend and letting them just be themselves so freely. he starts to tear up watching them. (this ones inspired by the book i’ll give you the sun this exact scene happens at a party).

that night mike and will are getting ready to go to bed in mikes room again not talking. will gets ready to sleep on the floor, a set back from when they were sleeping in the same bed. the lights are off and wills pretending to try to fall asleep and then mike whispers “it didnt mean nothing.” will turns and face mikes bed and then mike asks him to come up and will hesitantly joins him and mike sits up and faces him.

then this is potentially mikes most venerable scene in the whole show. he tells will absolutely everything. that when he and el moved he realized he was missing him the way he shouldve been missing el and it gave him the worst panic attack of his life when he figured out why. he stopped caring about himself and everything and everyone. he hated who he was. he didnt have the energy to hang out with his friends, to do his hw, to clean his room, to shower, to eat, and he stopped calling will. he just stopped doing everything. but what he continued to do was keep his relationship with el, and the more he did it the more guilty he felt. he didnt want to break up through a letter but he also didnt have the guts to do it in california and then when el confronted him about never saying he loves her he felt so much worse. he wanted nothing more than to actually love her. he hated that he loved will instead.

he tells will that he remembers how his dad would act when he went to wills house as a kid. how they overheard lonnie talking to joyce about them being “too close” one time and neither of them quite knew what he meant by that until later. he has so many little moments like this in his life of people letting him know that its wrong. that he is wrong. and he never ever thought will would be the same way and he never thought any boy could feel that way about him. mike whispers “i just want to be normal” and will says “since when are our lives normal?” and mike kinda laughs but hes also crying. wills holding his hands and tells him “mike, youve been through so much worse than being in love.” and then mike kisses him again!!! yes they have to kiss at least twice this is my mike arc and i make the rules. i could be more detailed in this whole scene but this has been in my drafts for weeks and i need to finally post it.

established byler/mike coming out:

then i really want mike to have a coming out scene with nancy or his mom but honestly id prefer nancy. i just think theres such a lack of wheeler sibling content and id really love if there was a scene like will and jonathan but for mike and nancy. i imagine them both being in the car on their way to somewhere related to the scifi plot and mike tells her that he and el broke up and they talk about that for a bit. and nancy asks if hes happy and mike says yes. and then mike starts to tell her why hes happy and eventually comes out to her but hes still terrified as hes doing it nancy pulls over just to hug him and its very emotional and sweet.

i also really want a scene of them coming out to the party but honestly im not sure if they will just because now there will have to be like 3 coming out scenes already. they might do the party instead of nancy or karen which id be ok with but they also might skip ahead and have them both already be out.

during the epilogue-ish scene they usually have at the end of a season after the supernatural plot has died i want another sweet byler scene. i love the concept of them going to prom with the whole party as a group but just mike and will find their own room to dance in and be themselves and feel safe. i need some fluff before the season ends.

AND THATS IT I DID IT IM SORRY THIS TOOK SO FUCKING LONG!!!!!

#this is whats been living in my brain for months #this whole thing #i love taking inspo from other shows and books and making it byler #byler #stranger things #mike wheeler #eden answers #byler predictions

[dufrau]

I am a real life person asking for your thoughts on Nancy Wheeler. Any thoughts on Nancy Wheeler. Every thought about Nancy Wheeler (I really just like talking about Nancy Wheeler)

Oh MAN. I dont even know where to start. I have so many thoughts and opinions and feelings about Nancy Wheeler I don't even know how to approach a question this open. You might as well ask me about the earth!

She has become such a real person in my brain that there are very few things that I think are set in stone about her. Sometimes I ask myself, when im writing, "What would Nancy say here?" or "What would she do?" "How would she react?" and I decide on something that I believe to be true but a lot of the time there is an almost opposite answer that I think could also be true.

What is constant? (this got lonnng have a readmore)

Well first of all I am a doomsday prepper Nancy truther. Not necessarily full on prepper to the extent she is in my TLOU au but I think she carries forward a need to be/feel prepared for things to go terribly wrong. I play it for a laugh sometimes, cans of beans in her purse and the trunk of her car full of random gear etc. But I think she is a person with a go-bag always packed, who always knows her emergency exits, who is always a little bit too alert and is at least a little bit exhausted at all times. I think she has guns and as much as i joke about her being the only person i trust with all these guns tbh she is probably a little twitchy and she probably should not have guns! (but i will continue to write her with guns)

I think she carries an immense weight of guilt and self-doubt which makes her absolute balls-to-the-wall pursuit of the things she believes are right and necessary so interesting by contrast. Her choices get people killed and she never forgives herself for any of it but she keeps making choices in the absence of anybody else who will do it. And I think she enjoys it on some level, or thrives in it, almost as much as she hates it. I think she will be LOST if they ever actually win. I think she will fight with everything she has to survive but i dont think, subconsciously, she really expects to and I dont think she is prepared to be a person who is not fighting anything.

I think she is LOYAL. And I think it's wild that her haters think the opposite. Its another very interesting contrast, the way she explicitly wants to reject societal norms and expectations but also the way she doesn't want to hurt people so she lets herself get trapped into them anyway. I have no interest in the "did she cheat on steve" conversation, i think the more important thing for her character is that she gets back together with steve and stays with him way longer than she wants to. Part of that is obviously about Barb but part of it I think is that she sees goodness in him and feel guilty about not having seen it sooner. And she's doing the same with Jonathan, who it seems like has been avoiding her calls and refusing to visit and just giving her nothing but she holds onto that relationship I think out of loyalty because he is a good person even if he's being a shitty boyfriend right now and even if that relationship has run its course. (these are not anti thoughts about steve or jonathan btw these are all teenagers in teenage relationships nobody is a villain here)

I think she hates surprises. Which makes sense because every surprise in Hawkins tends to be a bad surprise. But Robin is a whole fucking surprise and isnt THAT something. A thing I see in that ship that I love so much is that Robin keeps Nancy off balance in a way she usually hates, but she doesnt hate it at all from Robin. The very existence of Robin makes Nancy ask questions where normally she would just plow ahead. I think that discomfort is healthy for her and I think, after whatever you want to put them through to get there, she knows it.

I think Nancy would go straight for the eyeballs in a fight. I think she is biting off ears and ripping off fingers and poking their fucking eyes out because she is tiny and she knows it and she is not bothering throwing punches (though if she can elbow you in the nose she is going to to that too.)

I think one million more things about Nancy Wheeler but this post is so long already lol.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING

#the anon who asked the forbidden question #the stone is rolled away the chains are broken the tomb is open the nancy thoughts are escaping #please tell me YOUR nancy wheeler thoughts #nancy wheeler #ronance #nancy wheeler is the fictional character of my life i cannot express my love for her in words #asks

[nikkisheep]

Love me, please

Steve Harrington x reader

Warnings: ANGST (just cause its my fav to write), clueless reader (I say clueless, I mean she doesn't realize how much she is making steve sad) , sad Steve, I dont like reader, reader and jonathan still have feelings for one another, break up

Summary: You love Steve, you do but you can't say it. When seeing Jonathan dating Nancy, feeling rise and it puts a strain on your relationship with the perfect boyfriend.

You had it all. The perfect house, the perfect boyfriend, great friends. But the one thing you didn't have was Jonathan Byers. You had dated all throughout high school and everyone thought you two were going to get married with how much you loved each other. Sadly, it came to an end when Jonathan began spending too much time with Nancy Wheeler. He was the one who broke it off and it was a good break up. No hard feelings, at least that he knew of.

But that was over a year ago. Now, you were living the best life with Steve Harrington. You were both happy. I mean as happy as you can be when you love someone deeply. But after Jonathan, it was hard to say, "I love you" because you thought that you would never say it to anyone other than him. You were wrong.

"Hi, baby." Steve kissed you on the cheek.

"Hi," You replied.

"I was wondering if you wanted to go to Nancy's birthday party?" Steve asked.

"Is Jonathan going to be there?"

"I would think so, since they are dating now." He chuckled.

Steve didn't know why Jonathan and you had broken up so he didn't realize how much it stung to hear those words.

"They're dating now?" You ask, a little bit angry at the notion.

"Yeah, they have been dating about as long as me and you."

"That bitch," you scoff.

Leaving the table, you head to your bedroom to find clothes to go to this party. Steve seemed concern when he walked into his bedroom to find clothes thrown everywhere.

"Baby, what is wrong?"

"I have to look good for the party," You tell him.

"Why?"

"Jonathan is going to be there and I don't want to look like I have been missing him."

"Do you miss him?" Steve asks, his voice laced with fear of losing you.

"Of course, I don't. Why would you even ask that baby?" you ask.

"I don't know. Are you happy with me?"

"Of course I am. Steve, I just want to show off how happy I am with you."

You turn away, not realizing how much it hurt Steve with your words. You settle on a low-cut black dress and a pair of heels. The same dress Jonathan had once told you, it made you look like temtation itself.

Hours later, the party is thriving and you were talking with an old friend from high school when Jonathan Byers walked in the door, looking handsome as ever. You said goodbye to the person you were speaking with and made your way to Jonathan

"Jonathan, how are you?" You ask with a tight lipped smile.

"Hey, it's good to see you. I've been great," He replies with a smile of his own. How much you missed that smile.

"So how are you and Steve?"

"We're great. Really great, Jonathan." you slur from the punch you have already three cups of.

"That's good to hear," He says, bitter slightly slipping into his tone.

Steve finds us and pulls you away from Jonathan.

"Hey, S-Steve."

"How much have you had to drink?"

You hold up three fingers.

"You might want to slow down," He says, worried.

"I'm f-fine mom," you tell him.

Walking away from him, you head over to the punch bowl. Jonathan was there and you conversated for a bit. It seemed harmless to you two but Steve noticed the laughing and the smiles and the little touches.

Drinking more punch by the cup, you started to slur your words together more. Jonathan had left to find Nancy and you were drinking away your rising feelings. It felt good to talk to Jonathan again but he was with perfect Nancy. He left you for Nancy. It shouldn't bother you so much but it does. It bothers you a lot.

"Hey, hey slow down," Steve said. He sounded so far away.

"Go away," I groan.

"What is wrong?"

"You are what's wrong." You say before walking away.

You walk until you stumble into seeing Jonathan and Nancy kissing. As soon as Jonathan saw you he let go of Nancy. He saw your tears and he followed you to the bathroom.

Drink in hand, you down it.

"You need to leave me alone, Jonathan."

"I just wanted to see if you were okay," he said softly.

"Why do y-you ca-are?"

"Because I care about you," Jonathan said.

"Did you care about me when you left me for Nancy?" You cry.

"That is different."

"No, J-Jonathan. It's not. You can't say you care about me when you left me for another woman. My best friend at that."

"You know I loved you. Hell, I still love you." Jonathan said, frustrated.

Steve knocks on the door and Jonathan opens it.

"Jonathan," he nods.

Jonathan leaves so you and Steve can talk.

"What's wrong baby?" "Do you want to leave?" He asks.

"N-no I do-don't. I need more to drink," I scramble.

"No you don't. You have had enough."

"Stop telling me what to do, Steve. You are not my mom or my dad."

"I am just looking out for you," he said sadly.

"Well stop. You are always all over me. You make sure I don't drink too much or say stupid things. Guess what Steve, I don't want you." you stop at the final word.

"You don't want me?" Steve asked, eyebrows furrowed in sadness.

"It's not that. I want you but you're just not..."

"I'm just not what? I'm just not Jonathan?"

"Steve-"

"No, I get it. I'm not Jonathan."

"No y-you're not Jonathan."

''Why are you acting like this?" He asks.

"Because, I don't know."

"Tell me now."

"F-Fine. I don't like seeing Nancy having Jonathan. You should understand, you dated Nancy," You cry.

"I should understand? What the fuck babe? I love you."

"Tell me you love me," He says, tears running down his pretty face.

"Love me, please." He cries.

"I-I..."

"I love you baby, why don't you love me? Am I not enough?"

"Steve, I care about you. You know that," You tell him. You just couldn't say I love you. You couldn't.

"You care about me," He scoffs.

"You know I do. It's just I have never said I love you to anyone other than Jonathan so it's hard."

"What is so hard about it? What could be so hard that is holding you back?" Steve asks. Upset at the fact you couldn't say it. Knowing you said it to Jonathan.

"Because I don't know if I love you enough to say it."

"Wha-"

"I just don't know. I loved Jonathan and he left me. If I love you, then you will leave me too."

"Well, Jonathan left you for another woman. I'm leaving because I don't deserve this," Steve said.

#stranger things #steve harrington #stranger things x reader #steve harrington x reader #steve harrington x reader angst #steve x reader #nancy x jonathan #jonathan byers x reader #stranger things angst

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𝐢 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐭𝐞𝐞𝐧𝐚𝐠𝐞 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐰𝐨𝐥𝐟

concept board | soundtrack

𝐬𝐲𝐧𝐨𝐩𝐬𝐢𝐬 -> youre the only person who knows eddie's big secret- well, you, your little brother dustin, and all of his friends.

𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐭 -> 7.6k

𝐩𝐚𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 -> eddie munson x henderson!reader, gender neutral!reader

𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐭 -> werewolf au, starts angsty, gets fluffy, gets kinda smutty, gets angsty again, and the cycle repeats bc im unstoppable, lots of cursing, ex boyfriend!steve, secret relationship trope, weapons, lots of blood mentions, little bit of violence (?), unexplicit depictions of sex (id rate it like 17+), eddie being a little shit, henderson sibling dynamic for the win, robin and steve dicking around, let me know if i missed anything. i havent even read the full thing myself bc im scared

𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐭𝐞 -> thank you all for being so patient with me while i pulled this out of my ass. love you guys for real <3 be sure to check out the concept board and playlist linked at the top too !! i think theyre cool and i have decent opinions

saturday

by the time you arrived, the group had already debriefed, and they looked at you with the same mixture of concern and confusion that ted and karen did when you knocked on their door.

the stairs creaked with every careful step you took. it was difficult to make a subtle entrance when you were possibly several hours late to a meeting that was, evidently, very urgent. the fear that pulsed through your body when your mother relayed a message to you from your brother, one that was A) not particularly kind and B) possibly dooming.

"you look like shit," dustin noted when he saw the smudges of dirt on your jeans, paired with the dried blood on your hands and the bits of twigs in your hair, "and way to be on time. does 'code red' mean nothing to you?"

"i dont carry a walkie with me everywhere, dustin," you narrowed your eyes at him, an action to which he responded with a middle finger, "i actually have a life."

"is that why you look like you slept in a cave?" dustin smiled proudly at his taunt, but he made a fair point. suddenly, you became extra aware of just how disheveled your hair was, and you tried to dust some of the mud from your pants.

if it were just dustin, youd have left him thinking that, yeah, you did sleep in a cave, but everyone was there: lucas, max, nancy, robin, and even steve, whom you hadnt really spoken to all that much since things went south between the two of you. in all fairness, he didn't look too pleased to be there, either, nor did he look like he was going to put up with your bullshit. his arms were permanently crossed as he loomed in the corner, leaning on the arm of the couch and as far from you as he could get.

"im sorry that im late, guys, really, but-"

"but nothing," steve interjected, "no offense, y/n, but we have bigger problems than your midnight scavenger hunt or whatever the hell you were doing."

"i dont think thats true, but okay," you breathed a laugh before realizing that everyone was staring you down, and not in a haha-y/n-is-making-a-joke way- they were burning holes in you. your laugh got caught in your throat, "wait, bigger how?"

nancy scooted her chair at the small table over to make room for you, and, as you stepped down off the stairs, the items on the table became clearer: a bear trap, a torch, a shotgun, and a new can of farah fawcett spray.

"the demogorgon is back," max sighed, not breaking eye contact with you, no matter how many times your eyes flickered from hers to the weapons on the table, "i heard it last night near my place, and mike and nancy said they heard it here, as well."

"it was loud," nancy piped up after you looked to her for confirmation, "scratching around, but it was different somehow."

"we think, maybe, one got left behind when joyce closed the gate and, i dont know, adapted to hawkins," robin lifted and dropped her palms onto the tabletop in confusion.

you were confused, too. you watched all the creatures from the upside down shrivel up and turn to dust as soon as the gate began to close, so it didnt make sense for one to somehow adapt. slowly, you began to put the pieces together, weaving flashes from the previous night together to realize what was actually going on. it frightened you to your core.

before you could open your mouth to speak, steve reached for the can of hairspray, shaking it vigorously back and forth, just how it says to in the directions printed on the back, "maybe the son of a bitch hibernated. now its hungry, and im not gonna wait around for it to eat."

talk erupted of plans to set up a trap in both locations, stakeouts, buying ammunition, getting gasoline for the fire trails- you tried to interject, but kept getting talked over.

"i say we go to max's tonight, since she heard it first," lucas added.

"guys-"

"yeah, this demogorgon is going down," dustin chimed in, handing lucas his trusty slingshot from the table, "for real this time."

"hold on, guys-"

"were gonna need bait," robin said, more like asked, cocking her head towards steve who replied with a series of small nods and a snap in her direction, "oh, yep! were gonna need a shit ton of raw meat."

"that wasnt a demogorgon," you finally croaked, loud enough to shut everyone up. it helped that you also moved from your place at the table and back to the stairs, blocking steve from his impromptu grocery run. the step gave you the height advantage over him, "that was something else, someone."

silence is hard to read. did they believe you? did they think you were messing with them? you liked to have fun, but not during a code red. that meant nothing to them. being late erased any form of reliability you had left, and everyone was too serious to give you the benefit of the doubt. especially steve.

"thats very funny, y/n," he gave you a fake smile, gentle eyes squinted and determined. you knew if you didnt move, hed move you, pick you up by your shoulders and slide right by you.

"im not joking, steve," you said, squaring , "i usually am, but not this time."

it was never easy keeping secrets, let alone secrets about secrets.

"what do you mean, 'someone?'" asked nancy, her brows furrowed, and rightfully so with all the nonsense you just spilled in front of her, in front of everyone.

"the sound you guys heard last night wasnt a demogorgon," you restated, taking a deep breath before finishing, "it was eddie."

voices in unison exclaimed, confused, "munson?"

it was important to note the way steves jaw tensed at the mere mention of his name. he had always been the jealous type, and its exactly why you broke up with him. sweet little steve turned into a major pain in your ass. maybe it was because he liked you, or maybe it was because he just hated everyone else. you liked him better as a friend anyhow.

and it was good, too, since you two had a common factor: dustin. your little brother was also one of his closest friends, in the least weird way. it was how you met steve, through dustin, but it was also how you met eddie.

steve breathed a laugh, almost a scoff, and turned his back to you, a reaction you would have never predicted. he threw his hands up in defeat, landing them on his hips, "alright."

your face contorted with confusion, "really?"

"no, y/n," steve turned back around to you, briefly startling you and, clearly, everyone else in the room. the air became a little thicker, like fog as you held your breath. he laughed again, "hell no."

"you honestly want me to believe that eddie 'the freak' munson is running around on all fours in the goddamn woods growling and shit like a demogorgon?" steve asked, nearly choking on a laugh in the middle of his sentence. his hands waved when he talked, motioning towards the window before they found themselves back on his waist.

every eye in the room was either widened as far as it could stretch or covered with a disappointed palm. they thought you were lying, your friends. you were never one to lie, ever. a fib here or there for comedic effect, maybe, but a bold faced lie was not on your list of tricks. all you could do was dig.

"more like a, uh," you gulped, "demo-dog."

"jesus christ," steve mumbled and rubbed his temples.

the room filled with sighs and similar muttered exclamations of irritation as it typically did when you suggested a theory. in all fairness, you werent always right on the money, but this was different. you didnt blame them for not believing you, though.

"y/n, im going to need you to be a little bit clearer," robin sat up straight in her chair, giving you her best comforting and patient smile, "about the dog part, i mean."

"yeah, a lot clearer," steve added, "because i dont think i like what im thinking."

you crossed your arms over your chest under all the scrutiny, "steve, i know it sounds crazy, but-"

"crazy?," steve laughed, running a hand through his hair, one of his more admirable habits, "no, crazy doesnt cut it. honestly, the image of him doing that for fun is not that outlandish, but if youre trying to tell me eddie munson is a werewolf, y/n, youre out of your mind."

it was a tense moment, then and there, with steve teetering even closer to hating your guts and everyone else terrified of possibly feeling the same. all you could do was shrug, uncrossing your arms, wiping your sweaty palms on your pants, and striping the dried mud with new moisture. you sighed,

"then i guess im out of my mind, harrington."

friday

youd never been to the hideout before. social gatherings of any kind werent really your scene unless they had to be. in fact, the smell of the hideout alone was enough to keep you away, a thick fog of sweat, booze, and smoke. it crawled under the door as you pulled it open and stepped inside.

it was small, intimate, despite the weekend drinkers that packed in like sardines. there was quite a bigger crowd than the usual five that hung around on tuesdays, or so youd been told. the soft hum of conversations floated over of the sound of microphone feedback as you wove your way closer to the front of the room.

showing up was a last minute decision. your friday nights are best spent in your bed, alone, and in something much more comfortable than the clothes you were wearing. you pinched yourself every time you picked up an item of clothing and thought about whether or not eddie would like it, as if he didnt drool over you regardless. still, you dressed to impress, and it worked.

"holy shit," eddie deadpanned as he stepped off the shallow drop from the stage onto the main floor, his hair bouncing off his sweat soaked shoulders as he trotted to you, "look who finally decided to show. you missed, like, most of the set by the way."

"wait, actually," his eyes lit up as he raised a finger into the air in faux contemplation, dismissing the thoughts just as fast as they arrived, "you know what- i dont even care. just glad youre here."

that was a bit of an exaggeration- you were only twenty minutes late. when you made it to the front, eddie was lost in his own version of reality, fingers dancing on wires. thats how you knew he didnt notice the exact time you arrived. when he played, he ditched the old picture-everyone-in-their-underwear stagefright trick and opt for something a little bit stranger, as expected. he told you about it once, and you tried to forget. but, alas, something that absurd was permanently seared into your mind.

it made it kind of difficult to support him from the front row when you knew he was picturing you as a centaur.

"i didnt want you to mentally horse-ify my bottom half," you protested. eddie gasped, clutching his chest dramatically.

"ill have you know, y/n, i dont do that anymore," he said, "ive matured. grown, as a person."

he leaned a little closer to you, his stray curls tickling your skin at such proximity, sending goosebumps down your arms. "i've moved onto minotaurs."

you smacked his arm, and he stuck his tongue out at you before rustling the top of your hair with his hand. he quickly flipped his wrists towards you, flashing you two middle fingers as he backed toward the stage again. you shot him one of your own in return.

he was truly in his element up there, no denying it. his passion was so evident in the way he moved that you could hardly pull your eyes from him, no one could. it was entirely possible you were eyeing him a little more intently than the old drunk guys next to you. maybe just a little, though.

you waited outside after the show. it rained while you were inside, so there was hardly any relief when you exited one humid space to another. the parking lot was riddled with pothole puddles and oil slick rainbows under the street lamps. the clouds were thick in the sky, so much that it almost scared you. the moon was lost, the only indicator of her a shallow ring of white seeping through the slate of grey. you busied yourself kicking rocks in the parking space next to eddies van until the moment he was within view.

as he got closer, you could see his forehead was damp with sweat, his curls sticking to the sides of his face. with his guitar case draped over his shoulder, he waved his arm in your direction despite being only a couple feet from you.

"you guys were amazing," you beamed, closing the distance between the two of you and following him the rest of the way to the van.

"you think so?" eddie smirked. he opened the sliding door of the van and placed his guitar gently in the back, clearing the empty cups, papers, and ashes on the floor to make room.

you hummed in response, "mhm."

"well," he said in harmony with the clicking of the door back into place and grabbed you by your hips, gently backing you against the side of the vehicle, "you looked amazing. look... look amazing."

you could feel the mix of rain droplets and dew that remained on the side of the van through the back of your shirt, but the heat beneath eddies fingers distracted you from the chill that managed to cling to everything in the humid, post-rain air. your arms snaked up and around the back of his neck, your fingers threading into the mess of his hair. you struggled to maintain eye contact with him for several reasons, but mainly because his lips were so inviting. plump, dark pink, and a little swollen from being tucked between his teeth all evening.

his eyes never left yours, though, even when they abandoned his face entirely to scan the activity in the parking lot. he knew what you were doing, and he sighed, shaking the hair from his view before softly clearing his throat.

"y/n," he brought a hand to your cheek, his rings soothing against your flushed skin, "you know what im going to say."

this thumb dragged gently across your cheek, ghosting your lip.

"im just checking," you said, your voice higher in defense, "can never be too careful."

"you can and you are," he mimicked your defensive tone and brought his other hand from your waist to the other side of your face, now cupping your cheeks, "just once, i want to kiss you in semi-public, preferably in daylight but im not picky, without you thinking about steve. youre going to summon him."

"i just worry," you placed your hands over eddies wrists, "about you. about him. about everything, really."

his lips turned up, ever so slightly, at your sentiment, his eyes glossed over and shining like syrup in the orange hued lights. eddie took a step closer to you, pressing your body against his, and he craned his neck, hovering his lips above yours. he let your lips brush over his, smirking when he pulled back and brought you with him, chasing them.

"i love that you care about my wellbeing, y/n," eddie muttered, his breath a phantom on your tongue with how close he was to your mouth, "but i am going to kiss you, right here, right now... and i dont even care if harrington kicks my ass."

youd never imagined that you would be making out with eddie munson, pressed up against his shitty van, let alone writhing under his touch, enjoying it. he let his hands fall from your face, one of them resting on the side of your neck and the other providing him with some leverage against the metal siding of his van.

he told you once about how you make him weak in the knees, but you didnt realize how literal he was being until you grazed his bottom lip with your teeth and felt him tremble against you.

"you," eddie breathed, pressing a heavy and needy kiss to your lips, one you thought would bruise if it had been any longer, "you drive me fucking crazy."

hastily, he placed another kiss on your lips, nearly missing them. you couldnt help but smile into it, smile at how he was kissing you like youd melt away in his hands. maybe youd evaporate and turn into a cloud, or hed kiss you so hard youd seep into the side of his van and hed have no choice but to wash it more than once a year to keep you sparkling.

"how about you," you wrapped your arms around eddies neck, pulling yourself up to his ear and whispering, "drive us to your place."

letting eddie drive you anywhere under normal circumstances was a death wish in itself since he was notorious for basically breaking all traffic laws at least once a week, sometimes for fun. youd never seen him drive so fast. never before had you felt the need to use the little handle above the window, but your knuckles were white around both the handle and eddies hand as he turned too wide around curves and crossed solid lines and whipped it into his driveway with such an abrupt stop that the screech of his tires woke the neighbors dog.

"ah, shut up," he shouted over his shoulder and across the road, pushing the door open and stepping out of the way, "after you."

you stepped through his doorway for what felt like the hundredth time. youd only grown close to eddie within the last few months, and youd been romantic with him for even less. dustin was the one to introduce you after eddie had bugged him about you one too many times. youd noticed him before that, though, sneaking glances at you when youd pick dustin up from hellfire and hiding his blush under a strand of hair hed pull across his face.

the last thing you expected eddie munson to be was shy, but he was putty in your hands.

he was nothing like everyone made him out to be, including steve who had deemed him "the freak." steve wasnt a bad guy by any means. he rebounded onto you after things went south between him and nancy, and you knew it wouldnt last. it was possible that his only flaw was his jealousy. you couldnt talk to anyone without him feeling a little insecure. thats all he did, though, was feel insecure and make you miserable for it, and you didnt want eddie to face the consequences of your actions, no matter how out of character those consequences would be for steve harrington.

eddies uncles mug collection rattled against the wooden shelf when he pulled the door to behind him, rubbing his hands together mischievously as he scooted his feet towards you. an evil smile tugged at his lips when he moved swiftly past you, ignoring your outstretched arms and continuing his scoot to the fridge.

"check this out, babe," his voice was muffled from inside the appliance, buried under the rustling of items and the clinking of glass bottles, "actually, no. close your eyes first."

it could have been anything. youd have been lying if youd said you weren't mildly terrified of what he was pulling from his fridge. your arms fell limp at your sides, fists clenched to conceal the sweat that was glistening on your palms. with your eyes squeezed shut, you could only hear the door rattle as it fell closed closed.

anytime eddie had you close your eyes to build suspense, he would check to see if you were peeking, catching glimpses through your lashes.

"how many fingers am i holding up?" eddie asked after waving an open hand over your closed eyes, the air dusting over your cheeks.

"one."

"fuck you," eddie spat, "are you cheating right now?"

you laughed at how genuinely offended he was that you guessed it right. although, it was impossible to get wrong. "its always one, eddie. literally always."

if you knew that if you had opened your eyes, you would have seen him standing, mystery object tucked under his arm with all his weight on one leg and a grand gesture on display in front of your face: his middle finger.

"yeah, okay," he sighed in defeat, "just open your eyes, cheater."

this might have been the first time youd opened your eyes and been actually surprised. usually it was a freshly rolled blunt or something you left behind that you asked him to return to you-- things you expected. this time, it was different, and a smile found itself on every corner of your face.

eddie held a glass bottle by the cap with one hand, the other gesturing beneath it like a shelf, metal clad fingers wiggling in sync with his eyebrows. his smile was tucked between his teeth.

"picked it up just for you, sweetheart," he said before ceasing all animation, deadpanning when you didnt immediately say something, "it is your favorite, right? i didnt... make that up or something?"

"no, it is," you smiled, gently taking the bottle of soda from his hands and flashing him softened eyes, "thanks."

"i couldnt finish mine," eddie confessed, rocking on his heels as you twisted the metal cap away, letting an exaggerated shiver rack his shoulders.

"didnt like it?" you wiped your lips on the back of your hand.

"shits disgusting, y/n," he held back a fake gag, "tastes like fizzy piss."

you raised your eyebrows at him, "and youd know?"

"id know."

the liquid in the bottom half of your bottle sloshed around as you followed eddie down the hallway, watching the bounce of his hair dwindle to nothing when he reached the door. everything seemed to make noise over there, the floors squeaked, the lights buzzed. it didnt help that eddie mimicked every sound he heard, a high pitched voice ringing with the creak of his bedroom door as he pushed it open.

you werent sure that he even had a lightbuld in the ceiling light. his room was always dark, always still. the blinds in his window were broken, though, so the yellow glow from the street lamps bled through.

"oh, wow, munson," you smirked at him, picking up a pair of dirty underwear from the foot of his bed, "did you clean up for me?"

he was quick to snatch it from between your pinched fingers and stuff it in his closet, kicking the pile of laundry he scrambled to hide from you before you noticed it back into the small space.

"for sure, babe," he breathed a laugh, shrugging, "yeah, i cleaned... mopped and shit."

you raised your eyebrows, glancing down at his carpeted floors, "mhm."

eddies room was usually messy, but you could hardly tell unless you took careful notice of the clothes in the floor. his walls were cluttered with posters and random paper clippings, like a collage of his personality: movie tickets, parking tickets, and every test he got an F on, which, honestly, was most of them. honorable mentions include his guitar hanging from the mirror and a paper desk calendar duct taped to the wall beside his headboard, detailing the global holidays and farmers almanac harvesting and planting times.

"could you be anymore obvious, eds?" you breathed a laugh, tracing the scribbles on the calendar with the tip of your finger.

"what," eddie said rather quickly, like you startled him. he looked up from the floor where he was still trying to force clothes into the closet.

"phases of the moon," you smirked, feeling the ridges of the sketches before whispering, "real subtle."

eddie pulled the accordian style closet doors closed as you continued behind him, standing up and turning to face you with his hands strategically placed on his hips, "should i write a reminder for your grooming appointment next week? behavioral training?"

"honestly, y/n," he motioned towards himself, from his head to his toes, "do i look like i need either of those?"

you closed the gap between the two of you, stepping over the bits of laundry he missed in his last minute cleaning frenzy, and raked your fingers through the sides of his hair, smoothing out the curls that were sticking out. you whispered, "i dont think i should answer that."

"youre mean," eddies lips were turned downward in a slight pout before his gentle expression dissolved entirely, "wipe that shit-eating grin off your face."

your eyes held onto his, "why dont you?"

you pulled that confidence directly out of your ass. shaking hands became steadied by his shoulders as his lips melted onto yours. you would have never admitted how badly you wanted eddie munson, but here you were, settled on his lap, pulling his tshirt over his head and bursting at the seams to feel his lips on your skin. you smoothed your fingers over the black lines on his chest and arms, even one you discovered on his hip. he hissed through his teeth as you pressed your lips to the ink on his forearm, up his bicep, his shoulder, and trailed up his neck. lips parted, breath growing heavier.

his fingertips dug into your thighs on either side of him, pulling you closer to him. as if it were even possible, as if your chests werent adhered with sweat. he looked so beautiful like this, a mess. his hair was plastered to his forehead and his chest heaved, shining even in the dull overhead of his room. he seemed to glow when he would sweat, something that you strived to see every time you ended up like this. it was the only benefit of his room having zero air flow.

one thing about eddie munson: he was a biter. oral fixation for days. hed bite your neck, licking stripes over the red trails his teeth left, bite your wrists to taste the bitter sting of your perfume. hed bite your lips. that was your guilty pleasure with him, going so slow when youd kiss him that hed take control. he couldnt stand it.

you decided, this time, to try it on him instead. you wrapped the hair at the base of his neck around your fingers and tilted his head back, exposing his pretty neck.

"h-holy fucking shit," eddie managed to breathe out when he felt your teeth scrape down the side of his neck. his grip on you tightened, hips bucking up for any friction he could get, "please, do that again."

you dragged your tongue up the length of his neck, placing tiny kisses along his jaw and up to his lips, where he was eager to taste you, resisting the hold you had on his hair to chase your lips. you caved; you had to. eddie moaned softly into your mouth when he felt your teeth sting at his lip, soothing the area with your tongue.

what happened next was unexpected, but not the strangest thing that could have happened. especially given what youd witnessed the past couple of years. in fact, you should have been more concerned when you felt a sharp pain in your legs, like knives were pricking your flesh. you gasped against eddies mouth and pulled back, breaking a kiss that left a trail of bright red spit from his lips to yours. blood. your blood, and it was pooling in your gums, gushing from two minor gashes in your bottom lip.

you covered your mouth with your free hand, releasing eddies hair when you glanced down at how much blood had actually been drawn. no big deal, you thought, this is fine.

and it was. until you looked down even further and saw the curved, thick nails that adorned the tips of eddies fingers, the nails that were partially sunken into your flesh. having your lips bitten off was a risk you took every time you kissed eddie, but the sight of his claws in your thighs set you off just a teensy bit.

slowly, you raised your head, breath trembling to match your shaking hands, and met his gaze where he was staring at you with unadulterated horror. his usual dark eyes were glowing a dim amber, and they were glossed over with tears.

"i...," eddies voice was soft and wavering as he gulped, "im sorry."

saturday

"no way you did the devils tango with eddie," dustin deadpanned, his hands clasped over his mouth in disgust. similar reactions plagued the table of people surrounding you, with lucas pretending to retch behind him and mike plugging his ears with his fingers. they all sat and listened contently to a certain point. apparently, you were a pacer, so you moved over every available inch of the wheelers basement while you recounted the previous nights events.

everyone was more shocked by the fact that you were hooking up with eddie munson and less shocked that he was a fucking werewolf.

"im gonna be sick," max buried her head in the bend of her arm.

"when i said to tell us everything," robins hands were scrunched in her hair while her elbows rested on the table, "i didnt mean... everything."

you shrugged, "im thorough."

"thats a word for it," steve rolled his eyes, "what happened next?"

"of course youd want to know," dustin snickered, and steve smacked the bill of his hat. steve looked to you for clarity.

"i just mean," he ran a hand through his hair, "somehow eddie ended up in the woods and y/n looks like shit."

"wow thanks," you snarled your nose at him, but he was right. youd never tell him, though, "it gets a little blurry here."

you explained it to them, and it sounded even more absurd the second time around. eddie was just as freaked out about the whole thing as you, maybe even more.

"he cleaned me up," you said, "you know, gave me bandaids and shit for my legs. ive known about it for a while, but he said that his lycanthropy had been dormant way past the time it should have activated. he just assumed it skipped him, which made sense to me. you know, like, how diseases skip a generation, but this disease has no cure and it makes you, like, a dog."

"oh yeah, y/n," max laughed, throwing her hands in the air in defeat, "total sense."

"he thinks it only got activated because he was... excited," everyone gagged, covering their faces to sheild you from their obvious disgust, "can you guys be mature, please?"

"the adrenaline," nancy chimed in over top of the younger kids snickering, "it could have triggered his fight or flight or something."

lucas leaned into the huddle of boys, "more like fight or bite," and max smacked the back of his head.

"i think its the drugs," steve rested his weight on the stair railing beside of you, "dudes always stoned. or drunk. could have altered the way his brain received the triggers or whatever."

it wasnt a bad idea, and there werent exactly scientific studies on the adverse effects of substances on lycanthropy. steve harringtons shot in the dark was the best you had to go on.

"wait, so, where is eddie right now?" dustin asked, smacking lucas's arm after he said something else. you couldnt hear it, but it was probably stupid.

youd wondered the same thing as you were trekking through the flora and fauna of hawkins in the wee hours of the night. you knew all of eddies favorite spots, but none of them were necessarily great hiding spots. you werent even sure if thats what he was doing, hiding.

"i was hoping maybe you all could help me find out."

"did you check his place?" dustin immediately followed your proposition with the most obvious solution.

"did i check his place," you restated the question, blinking at dustin dumfoundedly. he threw his hands up, mumbling sarcastic apologies as you spat, "yeah, dustin, i checked his place."

actually, you wished it had been that simple. after the... incident, you were both shaken up. it was a risk you had known about, the werewolf thing, but you knew he wouldnt hurt you on purpose. mainly because he was too gentle. youd assumed that any increase in intensity would just make him an average amount of dangerous. did that make you naive? maybe.

eddies shaking hands smoothed the final bandaid over your thigh, lining it up next to the other four. his brows were drawn close in a combination of guilt and concentration, making sure you were alright and that the bandages would stick. you were sitting on his bathroom counter, back pressed against the barren drywall where a mirror once was.

you lowered your head, tilting it to meet his eyes. eddies gaze flickered to yours and back to your lap, a deep sigh forcing itself out of his lungs and through his nose. "hey," you whispered, raking your fingers up his forearms, "we're okay."

you knew as soon as he looked up that all he could see was the two gashes on your lip, barely scabbing and glistening, and the hickies bruising at the bottom of your neck beginning to look more and more like injuries than a mark of passion. he was afraid to touch you, but you needed him to feel that you were still there.

"can you say something, eddie," you pushed the hair from his face, gently, his eyes still fixed anywhere but on you, "anything?"

"please leave."

he mumbled the words, almost like he was hoping you wouldnt hear them, that youd ask him to repeat them and he could say something else. you squeezed from between his body and the counter and gave him one final glance before doing what he asked.

of course, you forgot in the midst of your grand exit that your car was still at the hideout. thanks, munson, for the ride.

"there was a half hour period last night where i was doing the walk of shame home. not my proudest moment," you shrugged that bit off, "but i went back for him..."

"and he was gone," nancy finished your sentence for you, nodding to herself and sorting out the details.

"we have to find him," dustin added, "at least before someone else does."

steve, taking initiative, took large strides towards the table full of demogorgon repellent. "lets go, then," he announced, grabbed the shotgun, and held it up to the light before everyone shouted in confusion, layered insults and exclamations dissolving the tense air.

"what the hell, steve?"

"hang on, harrington-"

"what, are you gonna shoot him?"

youd never seen steve look so taken aback, surprisingly. he was either one step ahead or ten steps behind. he looked at you, mouth agape, "is this guy not a giant, burly, flesh eating dog right now?"

"no, steve," you dragged, "have you never seen teen wolf?"

the previous evenings rain was still lingering in damp patches on the sidewalks and in the air, thick as smog as you walked down the sidewalk in a cluster. you had all piled in karens car and went to every place you figured eddie would go, starting with the hellfire room at the high school and, consequently, some minor breaking and entering. you dragged them to the hideout, reefer ricks, and even the factory his uncle worked at.

"i didnt think he would be in there, but theres no harm in checking," you sighed into the brisk atmosphere, a cloud forming on the cusp of your lips as you shoved your hands into your pockets. you just snooped around a little bit at the factory, afraid of getting into too much trouble. how would you look for eddie if you got arrested for trespassing?

dustin placed a hand on your shoulder as everyone made their way back into the car, "is there anywhere else hed have gone? somewhere unexpected?"

you hated to admit that youd never thought to check somewhere he wouldn't typically go. why would he go somewhere youd be able to find him if he was hiding?

you hoped he was hiding, at least, and not mounted on someones wall or laying in the road like a stray cat.

"not to be that guy again, but," steve poked his head out of the passenger side window, "munson has to be the biggest virgin ive ever seen. dudes probably never even seen skull rock."

nancy smacked his arm, and he mumbled a hurried, "im just sayin'!" but he was right. you werent even sure if eddie knew how to get there, but there were no downsides to checking. steve made sure to add that, if eddie were to be a giant, burly, flesh-eating dog, skull rock would be an all-you-can-eat buffet on a friday night.

steve graduated the year prior, which made him essentially ancient on the hip spots to hang out in hawkins. no one went to skull rock anymore, especially since a group of people got busted there a few months ago, so you didnt have to worry about eddie possibly eating a horny teenager or two. you didnt tell steve, though. you couldnt break the news to him like that. robin could, though.

"no one hooks up at that stupid rock anymore, dingus," she slapped the side of his head from the backseat as nancy pulled onto the main road. they bickered the entire drive to the edge of town, and dustin, lucas, and mike snickered in the back about steves virgin comment. but you tuned them all out, watching the trees bleed into one another through the fogged window as the pop songs from the radio crackled between shards of broken static.

the sun had set by the time nancy pulled onto the shoulder of the road, nothing suspicious about that. nothing suspicious about the bag of bear traps that steve slung over his shoulder, either. "can never be too safe," he said. there was especially nothing suspicious about the trail of raw meat chunks that lucas and mike dropped behind them as the seven of you navigated your way through the woods. in front of them was nancy and max monitoring police radio interference, in front of them was steve and robin with a compass, and in front of them was you, shoulder to shoulder with your little brother.

dustin flickered his flashlight on either side of the uneven pathway as the two of you walked. it was silent aside from the crunching of leaves and twigs against the soles of your shoes, thick silence that was only broken by dustin quietly murmuring to you. he said, "steve was jealous when i started hanging out with eddie, too."

"i feel like its a little bit different for me," you breathed a laugh.

"meh," he shrugged, and the shallow beam of light moved with him, "kind of, but not really. cant help it that we hendersons are harrington magnets."

"what are you saying about me, henderson?" steve questioned from behind the two of you, kicking a rock into your path.

both you and dustin answered, "nothing," and exchanged knowing grins. yours was small and sly, but dustins was full and bright.

moments like this with dustin were rare for you, and it ached a little to say that the only thing that brought the two of you together was steve. it helped having a mutual friend and, even more so, friend group. youd always felt a little distant from dustin, so any time he willingly hung out with you felt paper thin, like if you stepped too hard youd fall right back to where you started.

so you looked at every gap in the stones before you stepped along the beaten path. the chatter of the group bounced from tree to tree behind you, dissipating into a muffled mess under the sounds of everyones shoes crushing dried leaves. behind you, every sound ceased except for robins voice calling, "i think we need to go right!"

of course, steve chimed in to correct her, "no, robin, i told you we need to go left."

"which means we should go right!" she retorted, and bickering ensued. you rolled your eyes, turning on your heels to face everyone.

"left or right," you asked, planting your arms at your side in defeat, "cut the shit, guys. we have to find eddie."

"find me for what?"

dustin screamed, causing you to scream, overlapping the staggering shouts from steve, robin, and nancy who were climbing into each others arms and covering the frightened curses the kids were spewing, clutching their chests at the back of the line. the voice came from the greenery, from steve and robins right for the record, and was comfortingly familiar once you came down from the initial scare.

"holy shit, eddie," you sighed, scrambling over the fallen tree along the side of the path to get to him. your hands basically melted onto his shoulders when they touched his skin, his warmth as present as ever as you fell into him. you couldnt care about the leaves in your eyes or the sticks prodding your hair, "youre okay, yeah?"

"well, im in a bush," eddie laughed, his hand cupping the back of your head as he stepped out into the pathway with you still wrapped tightly around him, "but, uh, yeah... yeah, im okay."

when you finally looked at him, you could tell he was tired. there was a weight beneath his eyes, sunken and dark, and he had bruises along his arms and cuts on his fingers and dirt streaked everywhere you could see. he gave you a smile, anyway. "hi," he whispered, just to you, tracing the slope of your jaw with the backs of his calloused fingers. you returned his kind eyes, muttering, "hi," through your smile.

"uh, hi," steve greeted, waving his hand a mere three feet from the two of you, "remember us?"

"oh, harrington, hey," eddie straightened up. you could tell he was immediately intimidated, his demeanor hardening as he cleared his throat, "nice to see you."

you snicked to yourself remembering not 24 hours ago, when eddie said with utmost confidence that he "didnt care if harrington kicked his ass," now weak in the knees at the sight of steve carrying around a sack of dangerous items.

eddie took a step back, "is that a gun?"

steve looked over his shoulder and spun around, grabbing it from behind him, "oh, yeah. sorry, i was prepared to shoot you, man."

"what the hell," eddie clasped his hands over the top of his head, visibly at a loss for words, "dude, have you never seen teen wolf?"

under different circumstances, you would have loved to see steve and eddie laughing together, getting along, but not in the woods in the middle of the night after youd spent the entire day searching for him. he didnt seem too shaken up about anything, so you were confused as to why he was out here.

nancy spoke for you, "eddie, is there a reason youre creeping around out here?"

he pressed his lips into a line, rocking on his heels and smacking the sides of his legs as he began to speak, "well, wheeler, if youre so curious, i was looking for y/n. im gonna assume youve been filled in on everything up to this point, and hendersons very thorough, so im also gonna assume it was unnecessarily detailed and vivid," everyone hummed in agreement, "great- so, imagine me, but cleaner and a little more upset than i currently am, wandering the streets of hawkins, a little tipsy because apparently alcohol is the only thing that keeps me from fucking biting people. im walking, trying to find the henderson residence, but ive only been there once so its hard, and my senses are off the walls heightened. its insane how much i can smell- cant lie, that shit's kind of awesome-"

dustin interrupted him, "eddie, did you kill someone or not?"

"kill someone?" eddies mouth hung open at the question, his eyes glancing around to gauge everyones reaction to the question, which was a unanimous answer-the-kid-or-steves-gonna-shoot-you, "uh, no, dustin, i didnt kill someone. im not a monster."

"well, then, why are you hiding away in the woods like a serial killer on the run?" lucas leaned up against a tree with his chin raised high, "seems kind of suspicious to me."

eddie sighed, swallowing audibly before answering, his voice lowered, hushed, "i wasnt hiding from you."

as if on command, an eerily familiar growl filled the distant silence like static, gutteral, and close. eddie flinched, almost habitually jumping back into the shrub you found him in, but reaching for your hand instead. steve immediately handed the shotgun to his left, planting it in nancys grip.

she raised her eyebrows, drilling holes into the side of your head with her glare. "told you," she muttered, holding out a fist towards max, who quickly reciprocated the gesture. a celebratory fist-bump for being stuck in the woods with a werewolf and a demogorgon.

"does, uh," steve started, his voice hushed and his grip tightened around his trusty baseball bat that he had shoved in the bag. he motioned between you and eddie, specifically, and asked,

"does teen wolf say anything about fighting demogorgons?"

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[shopcat]

do u have an opinion on stoncy. im asking bc it seems like lots of people are into them but then hate jancy/stancy at the same time and i just dont understand that logic nor do i understand the stoncy appeal whatsover and would love to know your take lol

EEEEK first of all Love giving my opinion on everything and anything thank you for asking honestly i can't believe anyone wants my take i'm insane i love you. and i've noticed this too!!!! i find it pretty interesting that people do tend to be anti stancy/jancy but pro stoncy but honestly if i had 0 stakes in it i wouldn't mind it either tbh but i have ALL the stakes (phd in steve harrington minoring in nancy wheeler). i think stoncy like fundamentally has a logical next step kind of basis of trying to heal the "love triangle" rifts by bridging the gaps instead so to speak and on the surface and if i'm unbiased i suppose it would make sense? like if the tension between steve and nancy was jonathan then jonathan becoming their shared boyfriend would theoretically eliminate the problem.

BUT that is me being objective and i think at this stage in the game or whatever the line has shifted becaaauuse -> i BELIEVE stoncy was the first/oldest popular ship among the older teens (because they were victim to popping into existence in 2016 AKA the height of Every love triangle should just be a throuple/poly) but now we've had three additional seasons of character building and arcs and the 2016 stoncy attitude would not mesh as perfect happy endings as a 2022 one. you know what i mean.

and THEN if u take the theoreticals away i don't think approaching relationships in this way makes... sense or is even super healthy anymore at least for these three characters in particular. and that just putting them all in a get along and all kiss now shirt doesn't get rid of the issues they ALL have with each other and with their own like. personal growth. like making them a throuple doesn't suddenly make the reasons steve and nancy don't work anymore and DIDN'T work suddenly evaporate and it doesn't change the weird hostile relationship steve and jonathan somehow still have and it doesn't fix the issues jancy are currently FACING. y'know. i see the potential appeal i just can't let it appear within my line of sight lest i start bleeding from my eye balls.

also like it's totally fair i suppose if these reasons in particular could maybe be why people like it ?? like for character study or something like it would be interesting but tbh i just don't care. i do not particularly like the direction jonathan's character has headed recently including re: steve and think steve should get a restraining order against him and after the absolute shit show of the clawed to death resurrection OF the stoncy love triangle in s4 even thinking about steve and nancy standing near each other right now makes the skeleton appear and st4ncy endgame would be such a horrific car crash of a backslide for them both i would have to commit suicide out of solidarity with the death of their characters. soooo basically um i don't like it that much teehee 😊✌️

#asks #apologies if this ends up in tags sorry girlies hate to love you and leave u #sts #i think like 50% it only even got formed was because of that bts pic on the couch and how jonathan grabbed both their hands in the house #and to be fair that pic rules and that little detail is super cute #i actually used to have them in my dni as well LMFAO like i don't HATE it with all my life but i do hate steve and nancy with all my life #and at the end of the day jonathan being their emotional support cigarette smoking french orphan does not make me like it any more #sui #did i even answer your question i have no idea i blacked out #i don't have a lot of fondness for canon jonathan outside of his relationships w his family and with argyle LOL . and i love steve obv #and i do like nancy but again restraining order

[frogfaceandzombieboy]

so i’m not really into speculating about this show anymore bc all desire to do that crashed and burned after s3, but based on what i’ve seen on this site.. i do think ppl on tumblr are being a little bit ..hysterically reactive to part 2.

my thoughts below. no st extremist trolls. go somewhere else if you wanna start shit

do i think it was amazing television? absolutely not. do i think the duffers are good writers? nope. but do i think pt 2 set the characters up for the closures of their arcs for s5? yes

let’s start with el. el needed to hear mike say he loved her. it didn’t detract from her strength or abilities - to her, mike is the hero. mike is the one who saved her in s1. mike is the goodness in this world. she needed to know she was worthy (and accepted by that goodness). not just ‘the superhero’ part of her, but rather just el. now that she got that validation, she found complete inner strength. i mean she stepped in front of everybody in that last shot. that was the most on-the-nose symbolism ive ever seen. she has the determination now after getting that boost of confidence and endorsement. she has the drive to end all of this. she’s going to save everyone because she is loved for who she is.

will, my sweet precious will 🥹. this perfect lil bean is gonna get the love he deserves. his arc has clearly been set up to come back around, putting him in focus once again (he’s back in hawkins and he said nobody can escape). he’s going to help el end it all (the pic of noah in the harness, he obv levitates by vecna). so the wonder twins are gonna end it together! but el is going to sacrifice herself, like she was originally going to in s1. she’s going to repeat mike’s own words back to him, and tell him that no, she doesn’t need him (like he anxiously expressed in the past) but rather someone else does. and that someone is going to be will. will’s gonna get his happy ending.

mike has been set up to take his place as paladin once again! finally! ‘the heart’ that keeps getting emphasized. he’s going to spearhead the party to victory now that they’re all back together again.

max is going to live, but she needed to ‘die’ to absolve herself from the survivors guilt of wishing billy dead. she needed to die and get resurrected anew.

LUCAS my god LUCASSSSS and his amazingly satisfying “normal is just a raging psychopath” line. my fav line of the whole series. a privileged on-the-edge white maniac of a kid holding a black kid at gunpoint and lucas PREVAILS while that kid melts and burns into the fires of hell before our very eyes. so satisfying to watch. he’s gonna get max back and maybe he’ll even start his own basketball team 😌

jonathan and nancy are obviously going to work out their drama, or nancy will decide to go solo. but either way the whole jonathan/nancy/steve thing was just for drama’s sake. theyre gonna work out their college plans or mutually decide to lovingly go their separate ways. (i’m not that invested in their relationship but its pretty clear either way)

steve is going to realize he already has six kids, and that he doesn’t need to try so hard to be with somebody. he already has a loving family who needs him. he and dustin are going to ride off into the sunset together in a winnebago as partners in crime towards that coast in cali. and robin is gonna get her gf!

as for hop and joyce, i dont really care about their relationship (and tbh i fast forwarded and skipped all of hops scenes the whole season) but theyre very clearly gonna stay together. hop is also gonna have a second chance at letting his ‘daughter’ go when el sacrifices herself. and this time around he’ll do it proudly, implying that el healed an open wound. he’ll see his past daughter as a hero, just like he views el.

do i trust the duffers to actually execute this? or do it well? no, and i’m honestly not invested in how this show ends (unfortunately the magic of this show was killed for me in s3 but i do pick apart some things to enjoy on a surface level, like will & mike for example 😌) but these things seemed pretty obvious to me!

#announcement at the av club #i find that ppl on tumblr take things very literally #like its called an arc for a reason #you dont get satisfying conclusions until the end #also having media comprehension helps but tumblr left that a long time ago #listen #the duffers doing these things and them being the obvious end points are unfortunately two very different things #and yet its all still pretty obvious seeming #thse two eps had their many many faults - but not talking specifics and just talking about character conclusions #its pretty much spelled out

[glitterypinkconverse]

a “quick” volume 2 rant!!

why did they HAVE to kill off eddie? killing him off had literally no affect on the show, and even when dying the town still hates him. and is his body still in the upside down? like what

did they just forget about the road RIPPING APART? and there’s STILL people in hawkins? girl bye i would have packed my bags and left

“two days later” two days later my ass. that was so rushed and so poor. what literally happened those two days that was so unimportant?

i thought the upside down air was toxic. so how did they survive in the upside down ( apart from eddie, we love you man )? makes no sense

HOW THEIR TEETH ARE STILL WHITE AFTER NOT BRUSHING

why did no one apart from eddie’s uncle or dustin care about eddie’s death? or where eddie was? did the whole hellfire club and his band just forget about it or did dustin fill them in on it? same with robin, nancy, and steve

the correlation of “you are never going on vacation again” and hawkins being SPLIT apart. if anything mike’s mom should be GLAD that mike was gone and not there for it all to happen

vickie and robin. i would have loved their relationship if vickie didn’t have a bf and break robin’s heart.

steve and nancy. sure, they have unfinished romance but who gaf at a time where the world is about to end. the writers obv put that scene of steve and nancy in the upside down to get them somewhere, but it just makes no sense. they KNOW robin is a klutz and they would NEVER let robin run ahead of them, in fact they would be stressing out over the fact that their first child is running away when the world is ending and she would very easily step on a hive mind.

i was hoping there would be more backstory for henry, we barely know what dr. brenner did to him and el’s all like “brenners the monster, he made you who you are now”

MURRAY, ANTONOV, AND YURI. where are they?? did anotonov and yuri go back to russia all of a sudden or did they get caught by the americans? who knows

the upside down air filling hawkins and everyone thinking it’s snow. does it look like snow to you 🤨🤨

how the russians even got the demogorgon and the demodogs. i was hoping there would be more intel on it or at least explain how they got it.

byler. that scene in the car where will was talking about himself but saying it was all el broke me. all they’re doing is using will to get mileven somewhere. and i have a strong feeling jonathan knows that will is gay/queer/wtv he is atp

is dr. owens dead or alive? i’m assuming dead but it’s not confirmed

and the military plot. the whole sullivan thing got left unfilled and leads us with questions as to what happened there

max “dying” and el reviving her. poor girl is now stuck with broken limbs and can’t see. but when it happened to el she was fine??? because she had powers and was little??? so confused

NOW DONT GET ME STARTED ON THE FACT THAT LUCAS AND MAX WERE TALKING TO EACH OTHER VIA NOTES. that was the cutest fucking thing ever and they could have had EVERYTHING. they never got to see their movie on friday :(

i’m so glad jason died, respectfully. if jason left lucas and max alone max wouldn’t have died, the 4th gate wouldn’t have opened, and hawkins wouldn’t be covered with the upside down. i blame it all on jason. so glad his body got disintegrated 😊😊😊

DUSTINS LIMPING. GET THAT BOY SOME MEDICAL TREATMENT.

what was even funnier to me was how they all knew about the warfare place, and that scene with nancy and jason, GOD SHE SHOULD HAVE BEAT HIS ASS

there’s so much they could have improved in s4, but they truly did let us on with a heartbreak and questions to be answered. was screaming and crying at my tv with my mom the whole time. volume 2 absolutely BROKE me

#stranger things volume 2 #stranger things #stranger things vol 2 spoilers #stranger things vol 1 #stranger things 4 #duffers fix your show #i will never be over it #i will never recover #i needed to get this out #rant #i hate this show so much but i love it so much #literally fml

[elleloquently]

stranger things volume 2 spoilers. this is not going to be cohesive whatsoever, just some thoughts put together because i was really loving volume 2 but then it felt spoiled and im still mad so here we are

i hate what happened to max. like to my core i absolutely hate what happened to her and i just cannot imagine why she needed to end up in a fucking coma. we have the dear billy episode, which was so fucking beautiful and incredibly well done and max did it! she escaped from vecna! only to almost be killed 200 more times and ultimately end up in a coma??? it feels like they couldn't decide if they should kill her or keep her alive and putting in her in that horrid state and then frozen in a coma just feels so frustrating.

eddie. i knew from the beginning that eddie wasn't going to survive this season but i loved him anyway and totally sobbed when he died. he died a hero, and no one besides dustin even acknowledged. everything about it was devastating. so why on earth did no single person have any emotional reaction to his death except for dustin??? why did everyone seem fucking fine?? that seemed so out of character for me.

nancy and steve and nancy and jonathan. from the very beginning i shipped nancy and jonathan, i think they have such a good dynamic together and work so well together and im really rooting for them to work things out. what i dont love is how they keep alluding to steve and nancy getting together. i genuinely feel like that will ruin so much for me, it feels backwards even though they've grown as characters... i LOVE nance but her starting to have feelings for steve again while IN A RELATIONSHIP with jonathan is borderlining on ruining her character for me. nancy is amazing, i hate her whole story being around which guy she'll end up with. fix her relationship with jonathan or leave her single.

vickie. im so sorry but instantly i cannot stand her. im sososososo relieved that robin beat the death allegations !!!!!!!!!! and i have the softest spot for her but god.... i hope vickie doesnt stick around. i HATE when a character is introduced solely to be a love interest and that.... feels exactly what vickie is. she's boring and all they did was attempt to give her the same personality as robin, like come on. if you want our girl in a relationship, let the story build into one naturally, don't just force her into one with some random character. i really didn't want to see vickie on my screen making sandwiches, i would've preferred idk,,, someone acknowledging dustin's feelings???

steve harrington is like the love of my life and i was so scared for his life but he SURVIVED and i feel nothing but relief but also,, did he seem different to anyone else too?? i feel like over the seasons hes had the most amazing character development, he cares so much about the kids and he has such strong friendships with dustin and robin and its all very loveable and consistent until this volume?? i feel like he spent the majority of the time with nance, like he ignores everyone else when she's around but not in a good way and its one of the reasons why i wish they would retire that damn ship. it feels like they can only pick one between steve, the well rounded and developed character or steve with nancy..,,, like his personality and friendships don't exist when they're teasing a relationship with nancy and i hated it . a lot. the steve harrington we know and love would be absolutely devastated about what happened to max. the steve harrington we know and love would have acknowledged eddie, and been there for dustin and comforted him and hugged him??? yeah, it couldve happened offscreen, but thats... not good enough. it didn't feel true to his character. he had like no response to anything (except nancy!) and genuinely that spoiled so much for me.

there's probably so many errors and grammar issues but im typing this fast and i havent slept but yeah there's a lot of issues that kinda ruined it for me???? there were a lot of moments i loved too but these parts felt icky to me and kinda spoiled the ending like the last 30 minutes ruined any positive feelings i had??? kinda wish we could've seen a moment of the whole group just being together and comforting each other esp bc steve's distance from dustin just didn't make sense to me ): he loves those kids and he would've been upset about max being in a coma too. it just felt weird and maybe im being picky idkidk feel free to let me know ur thoughts as well if anyone actually read this???

also i thought it was pretty obvious byler wasnt going to be a thing but ive seen a lot of ppl really angry about it which i understand but people are hating on mike and el for .loving each other? i adore and love will and he deserves the world and hes so kind do you really think he wants el, his friend and sister to be unhappy??? that he just wanted mike to immediately dump el to be with him instead?? no it does not make sense and i thought all of their scenes were very sweet and touching and well done

also everyone was split up so much, I live for the moments they all reunite I really wish we could’ve had a bigger/longer moment of everyone together ):

there's so much more honestly but my brain feels so scrambled and i am tired but i just had to get some thoughts out okay bye

#stranger things #stranger things season 4 #stranger things volume 2

[yearning-and-arson]

ur opinions r so real & so is your music taste . since i dont know what else to say obligatory blorbo infodump section here -an orange (real) :D

Omg thanks!! I have a hard time articulating words about my blorbos so I will some blorbo bingos but with characters of my choosing :) I’ll do Steve Harrington (the blorbo ever) and another Nancy Wheeler because I love her so so much, and then my two favorite Riverdale characters because they’ve been on my mind 24/7 and I gotta rant about them, this post is rather long :D

Steve Harrington (THE blorbo):

He’s just simply the guy ever, silly dude with the most gender, he’s my babygirl, girlfriend material, they get all the bitches, she should be allowed to wear a skirt, need I say more? (Sadly no bingo for Steve)

Nancy Wheeler (I love her I love her I love her I love her I lo-):

Got a bingo for Nance! *pats her head* this girl can hold so much angst, she has the brain cell, she should be allowed to go insane, someone (Robin) save her from that awful love triangle, she deserves the world, i want to put her in a blender and watch her bounce around in there, I simply don’t understand how people hate her, like I respect their opinions but they’re just wrong

Now onto my Riverdale blorbos, this show is insanely unhinged but I simply can’t get enough, and for the love of god I wish they would stop traumatizing my beloveds (also I’m going to school in Jughead cosplay today because he’s simply so gender even though I do not care for him as a character)

Archie Andrews (my son):

He is but a boy, he’s a golden retriever, he’s an absolute idiot, like so incredibly stupid and unhealthily selfless (Archie son listen to me Hiram murdering all those people IS NOT YOUR FAULT), he needs sooooo much therapy, he needs to stop finding every excuse to take his shirt off (sir your father was just shot please put your tits away), i wish his relationship with Veronica was more than just them having a short conversation then fucking (it’s seriously so annoying I have to skip through so many sex scenes, they could be so cute but they don’t do anything except for that and it pisses me off), I love him <3, He simply doesn’t know how to human, he’s trying his best, I want to hug him so fucking badly, got a bingo for my boy

Betty Cooper (the love of my life):

GET THIS GIRL SOME FUCKING THERAPY!!! REAL THERAPY NOT JUST REFILLING HER ADDERAL! This bitch is so fucked up it’s not even funny, her dad’s a serial killer, she got sent to a corrupt nunnery and drugged, all of her tuition money was given to the cult her fucking mom’s in, she is held to wayyyy too high of expectations and definitely has body issues, internalized homophobia and heteronormativity has this girl in such a tight grip (she’s lesbian and asexual), like the whole first episode of the show is her forcing herself to be in love with Archie and then she has her sexual awakening via Veronica Lodge (don’t even get me started on how gay those two are for each other), I really wish her and Jughead were just besties because I simply do not like them romantically (they are mlm/wlw solidarity and in a qpr), she is on my mind always, I really just want to hug her like she is so fucked up, I am so incredibly gay for her like I would not mind if she held a stake to my throat and threatened to murder me, her in the midnights club episode of season three is like one of the hottest things I’ve ever seen she is just so pretty

Alright that’s the end of my rant, I’m sure there’s some more thoughts up in my brain, but this is it for now! I noticed that my blorbos from both these shows are a bisexual himbo and a badass traumatized asexual lesbian who date at some point in the show but I don’t like them together. Interesting.

#Thank you so much for letting me rant about my guys!!! #this made me so happy and i appreciate it a lot :3 #friemd asks

[yikesharringrove]

Changing the theme a bit, since I saw you dont hate Jonathan thank goddd, maybe Jonathan having to ask Steve and Billy for tips because he's aro or ace? Or something he knows Lonnie wouldve actually killed him for, which Billy gets and Steve is fully willing to help soft Jonathon be a THING and they are just his gay mentors and mayhaps. Nancy just doesnt get it and it gets messy and Will just stands up for his brother in full anger and slams the door in her face and hugs jon so tight he falls

Steve is sex-positive ace, Billy is sex-repulsed, and Jon is greyace bc I’ve gotten so many messages about how many people were affected positively by showing ace diversity in that one drabble I wrote, so we’re keeping this goin’ because you’re ALL VALID. 😤

-

Jonathan had been crashing on their couch for a week and a half and has yet to say anything about the situation more than Nancy and I had a fight.

Billy and Steve didn’t know what the fuck to do about it. Jonathan was obviously fucking heartbroken over whatever the fight had been about, but they didn’t wanna pry.

“Thank you guys for taking me in. I’m sorry, I’ve probably been cramping your style.” Steve just shook his head, serving three plates of eggs and toast.

“There’s not a lot of style going on in this apartment for you to cramp.” Steve smiled at him as he placed the plates on the table. Jonathan gave him an odd look.

“What do you, what do you mean?”

“We don’t really fuck.” Billy was always the blunt one. Jonathan’s fork clattered to the table.

“You don’t, why not?”

“Neither of us are really into it.” Jonathan looked like he could fucking cry.

“Me neither. That’s what the fight was. Nancy kept asking why we don’t have sex, and if I stopped loving her, and I do! I love her so much, but I just, sometimes I feel that way about her, but I usually don’t, and I’m so fucking confused.” Steve reached out, placing a firm hand on Jonathan’s arm.

“Jon, it’s okay. I mean, I don’t think we’ve had sex in like, a year?” Billy nodded.

“It was before we actually talked about how we both felt about it.”

“And is that-” Jonathan trailed off, but they got it. Is that like me.

“I don’t mind sex. If I’m with someone who wants to have it, I can be cool with that, but I don’t always get off, and it’s more about making the other person feel good, or using it as another way to be like, intimate. But I don’t really think about it, and I can definitely go without.”

“I actively don’t like fucking. I kinda think sex is, is fucking gross. I mean, you do you and all that, but like, every time I had sex it just, it made me feel gross.” He pulled a face.

“I just, I don’t know what I’m supposed to feel for her, honestly.” Jonathan ran a hand down his face. “Sometimes, sometimes it just feels like a fucking chore. And she just, she kinda confronted me about it, and I probably could’ve worded it better, but she got so angry, and hurt, and we just, we decided to take some time apart.” He pushed the eggs around his plate. “And there are some situations that I just, I want it with her so badly, but most, most of the time I just, I just want to be with her, like just spend time with her. And she, she’s never been very good at being sensitive about things, or, or, sympathetic, and she just, she made me feel fucking broken. Like there was something wrong with me.”

“First of all, fuck her for making you feel like that.” Billy had one eyebrow raised.

“Bill-”

“No. Jonathan, you are not broken, and it sucks she made you feel that way. If she can’t be in a relationship that respects your boundaries, then she is not the one.”

Steve sighed.

“Jon, Bill’s right. A relationship should be safe. She should be more mindful of your boundaries and feelings, and should not be making you feel bad for those things. I’m not saying you should like, dump her-”

“I am.” Steve batted a hand at Billy.

“-but, if you have an open conversation with her, and nothing changes, then you are always welcome here.” Steve squeezed his arm again.

-

The talk with Nancy had been bad.

She had taken everything really personally, said that Jonathan needed to sort out his priorities and to let her know when he’s attracted to her again.

And he tried, he tried so hard to explain the way he felt, that it all comes and goes like the fucking tide, but she had put her foot down.

So he showed up back to Billy and Steve’s apartment with two more suitcases and tears in his eyes.

“I just, I know I can fake it when I need to, I don’t know why I didn’t.”

“Because forcing yourself to do shit like that sucks. Fuck Nancy for being a bitch. Figure yourself out, and then find someone who respects your boundaries.”

Billy was pacing in front of the sofa, talking sharply, pointing at Jonathan a lot. Steve had one arm over his shoulders.

“You deserve respect, Jon. And you deserve to feel safe and happy in a relationship.”.

-

He couldn’t sleep that first night.

The fight was circling in his head, over and over and over and over-

He heard the bedroom door open, and someone creep out through the living room and into the kitchen.

He looked over the back of the couch, saw a bleary eyed Steve filling a glass of water for himself, wearing one of Billy’s faded band shirts, and a pair of panties.

Jonathan laid back down before Steve could see him looking.

-

The next morning, he found himself staring at Steve.

He had put shorts on, and even a chunky cardigan while he made breakfast, but Jonathan knew.

“Can I, can I talk to you about something?” Steve smiled brightly at him. “I, um, I noticed you coming out here last night.” Steve just nodded, a look of recognition in his eyes.

“You wondering about panties?”

“Um, yeah.” Steve shrugged. “I just like ‘em. And it’s not like, a sexual thing. Sometimes they make me feel sexy, but that’s not what it’s about. I just like them. Have a lot of women’s thing.”

“What about them do you like?” Steve shrugged again.

“It’s hard to describe. I’ve never felt like, super masculine. Like, big macho tough guy, I wanna hunt and never talk about my feelings.” Steve put on a stupid-sounding deep voice for his macho man. “And I mean, not all men are like that, but that’s kind of how you’re expected to be. And women are expected to be pretty and delicate, and I’ve always related to that more. Women’s clothes help me feel that way.”

“I’ve, um, I’ve always felt that too. Not necessarily the kinda, pretty and delicate part, but the, not feeling connected to masculinity and like, what’s expected from you.” Steve set down a plate of eggs and bacon in front of Jonathan, putting one down for himself as well, and one in Billy’s empty space.

“Hold that thought, I’m gonna grab Billy. He doesn’t like it when I yell for him.” Steve patted him on the arm, and was gone for a few minutes before he returned with Billy in tow.  “Okay, Jonathan. Please continue.”

“Well, not much to say. I feel like my dad kinda always shoved that like, macho man shit on me. Would take me hunting and stuff and I just never liked it.”

“Jesus, mine did that shit too. Not with hunting, but he was all about men having their place, and women having their place.” Billy took an aggressive bite of his bacon.

“Mine was too! I got sad once when I shot a rabbit, and he called me a pussy for like, a week.”

“When my dad was layin’ into me, if he ever saw my cry, it would just get that much worse.” They were nodding at one another, trading shitty dad stories back and forth. “He would like, get mad if I helped my mom cook and shit, too.”

“God, it’s like we had the fuckin’ same dad.” Billy raised his mug at Jonathan. “It’s hard to break outta that shit, even though he’s not in your life, anymore.”

“I think so, too. I haven;t seen him in years, but every time I do something he would’ve thought was too soft, I can still hear him in my head. And you know, that’s one of the things I like about Nancy. She’s really hard, and tough, and never expected me to be that way.” And he knows that in the end, Nancy was bad news for him, not being able to love and accept him, but that aspect of their relationship was so nice, so easy.

“There doesn’t always have to be both. I mean, Steve’s more outwardly soft, but we’re both real mushy at our cores. There doesn’t have to be a big tough one and a sweet soft one. Sometimes you have elements of both and you make it work.”

“You just have to find the balance within yourself, I think. And learn to embrace the parts of you that are soft and the parts that are hard.” Jonathan was nodding vigorously at Steve. “And it’s always different. I love getting to feel soft and pretty in a dress or something, whereas Billy finds ways to be soft by taking care of things, like me and all the plants.”

“Do you think, do you think you could help me? Find that, I mean.”

“Of course! Just think of the things you already feel, things that feel right when you do them, and that’s a good starting point. And maybe that’s your photography, and maybe it’s something else.”

So they let Jonathan experiment with things to find his softness.

He would help Billy tend to the fucking garden they had on the balcony, or bake with Steve. He took a million pictures, and Steve was thriving under the camera, would put on make up and something pretty and pose around the apartment.

It was just nice.

Getting to live with these two, and train himself not to be ashamed, it was nice.

Will would come and visit quite often, and he and Jonathan spent a wonderful Saturday evening coming out to each other, and validating the ever loving shit out of one another.

Billy and Steve came home to the two brothers hugging one another on the couch and trying to hold back tears.

Steve had inserted himself into the hug while Billy patted each one of them on the head and started making dinner.

But he figured of course this would happen.

His perfect little cocoon would crumble apart at some point.

Will had come over, and Steve and Billy had gone out to dinner together, leaving the two of them to order pizza and have a movie night.

It was great, hanging out with his brother like when they were little, not a fucking care in the world.

There was a knock at the door.

“Jon, it’s me. It’s Nancy. Can we talk” Jonathan’s heart stuttered to a halt in his chest.

Will was staring at the door like maybe he could set it on fire if he glared hard enough.

Jonathan sighed, opening the door to face his fate.

“Are you seriously still mad at me?”

“Yes.” She huffed.

“C’mon. Come back home.”

“Nancy, I can’t. Not if you’re not going to respect me.”

“We were fine. I don’t know why we can’t just go back to the way we were-”

“Because I was forcing myself to do things I was uncomfortable with just to make you happy.”

“Relationships are compromise, Jonathan.”

“I know that, but when I brought up to you what wasn’t working, you refused to listen. I was the only one forfeiting my boundaries and comfort in that relationship, and I deserve more.” She rolled her eyes.

“Jesus Christ, Jonathan, this is-” Will was shoving Jonathan back, stepping between the two.

“Nancy, he’s done talking to you about this. Unless you can respect that he doesn’t always feel that way, then move the fuck on.” He slammed the door right in her face. “You don’t need her.”

Jonathan was gobsmacked. Will had never spoken to anyone like that, at least not that Jonathan’s every seen.

“Why did you...?” He trailed off, still staring at the door.

“She was pissing me off. You’re right. You compromised everything in that relationship and she couldn’t even give you the bare minimum.”

Jonathan swept Will up, hugging him as tight as he possibly could.

“Thank you.”

“You deserve better than her.”

“Yeah, I do.”

#this one is so old #I went really hard with this one lol #i hope it's not preachy i lowkey blacked out and like #it was all written #i promise I don't hate nancy #it's just easy to write her this way tbh #steve harrington #billy hargrove #jonathan byers #steve harrington x billy hargrove #billy hargrove x steve harrington #harringrove #harringrove fic #harringrove ficlet #harringrove drabble #asexual fic #asexual steve harrington #ace fic #asexual billy hargrove #asexual billy #asexual jonathan byers #asexual jonathan

[lesbianrobin]

Do you think Steve was codependent on Nancy during their relationship? I do think he saw her as the 'perfect girl next door' type and i dont really agree with his "shes not like other girls" phrase but i wanna hear your view on it..

Hey, so I don’t really... know anything about codependency or psychology and so I don’t really feel qualified to speak on it in such a concrete sense. I can share some general thoughts I have about Steve and Nancy’s relationship, though I'll try not to go into too much detail bc I think I’ve said most of this before. 

I think that Steve was enamored of her because she was just the first person he ever spent a lot of time with who seemed to actually listen to him and who wasn’t a blatant raging asshole. I don’t mean this in a bad way, but Steve doesn’t seem to have super high standards. He seems kinda like the type to fall a little bit in love with everyone he meets, anyone who’s kind to him, and Nancy did that plus she’s pretty and smart, so of course he liked her!

While I do think he may have hinged his vision of his future and his happiness on her to a futher degree than is ideal, I also don’t think that it was anything too out of the ordinary or uncommon for a young person with their first serious girlfriend. A lot of teenagers insist that they’ll marry their high school love, that they’ll never be happy with anyone else, that their partner is special and nobody could ever compare, and, well... Nancy was Steve’s first love! There is the question of whether or not he “really” loved her, how well he knew her, whether she showed him every side of herself or played into the “girl next door” role, how much they understood each other, etc, but I do think it’s possible to love someone while still potentially misunderstanding them at times or not knowing every single side of them. She straight-up pointed a gun at him once and they got back together afterward, so I do think that Steve knew that Nancy had a ruthless side when they were dating, and he was clearly well aware of her trauma surrounding Barb’s death (as shown by him noticing when she zoned out in the library in S2 and him attending dinner with the Hollands for her), so I don’t think he had a wholly unrealistic view of her as The Perfect Girl Next Door.

He seemed to let her go fairly easily in S2 once he realized that she loved Jonathan and not him, and he seems to be over her by the time S3 rolls around (which is nine months later). So, while Steve hinged a lot of his happiness on Nancy while they were dating and he might have put her on a slight pedestal, I don’t think that it was necessarily to a psychologically alarming degree. I think it was more just... him being a teenager in love. 

You didn’t really ask about this part, but you’ve made me think about it, so: We know that Steve was infatuated with Nancy/in love with her depending on how you define things, and we know that Nancy did not feel the same way. So... why did she date him to begin with, and why did she go back to him after S1 when she liked Jonathan instead?

I think that Nancy dated Steve back in S1 because he gave her the opportunity to be a little bit rebellious, while still being ultimately safe, and he was... easy, for lack of a better word? By “easy,” I mean that Steve is nice and attractive, dating him didn’t raise any problems for Nancy because he’s an affluent preppy white boy, and he made his interest in her very clear and seemingly made all of their plans, so she didn’t have to take any risks by putting herself out there. Nancy isn’t a risk-taker at the start of the show! She lives her life pretty conservatively, and even her riskier actions prior to monster-hunting (telling her parents she’s at a female friend’s house instead of a boy’s, drinking a single beer, and sleeping with her boyfriend) are... pretty tame. After S1, though Nancy becomes much more of a risk-taker (I think likely because she realized that Barb never took a chance in her life and she still died, so what’s the point in playing it safe?), she goes back to Steve despite liking Jonathan because, once again, Steve is safe and easy. While she’s now capable of taking risks in dire situations, she’s still committed to the same idea of the perfect life that she had back in S1, and it takes her return to that monster-hunting mindset to take the plunge with Jonathan.

Which brings me to your mention of the “she’s not like other girls” comment, which is super interesting in this context! Steve is telling Dustin to act like he’s not interested and play it cool to get a girl to like him, Dustin asks if that’s how Steve got Nancy to go out with him, and Steve admits that it didn’t work on Nancy because she’s not like other girls. While Steve is giving dumbass terrible advice, he is at least correct about that shit not working on Nancy- because that’s what Jonathan did post-S1, and even though Nancy liked him, she DIDN’T ask him out and instead went back to Steve, who made his feelings about Nancy very clear. I just think that’s a neat connection!

I think that’s everything. Sorry this sat in my inbox for so long, I kept considering doing research into codependency and then I decided that I should probably avoid making statements about serious psychological phenomenons, so... yeah. Thanks for the ask!

#asks #em talks #long post #lesbianrobin.canon #stranger things #stancy #steve harrington #nancy wheeler

[startwithbrooklyn]

THE GREAT ND REWATCH OF 2021 / SEPTEMBER 30, 2019 // larkspur lane/the whisper box

this post is a double whammy cause they have 2 eps happen in the same day if u can believe it (thats how awful judging timelines in this show is!!)

-"hi josh..." LMAOOOOOOO

-BESS just breaking in lmaooo how many god damn times does bess just shit the bed in this show

-LOVE her frowny face at nancys closet ("my expectations are low" lmfaoooo but this would totally be me)

-"bet she meant it metaphorically" okayyy but then why did lucy say that at all? i feel like theres defo more to this story, combined with josh's cagey behavior (part of which is to get nancy to stop looking into shit d/t him and karen but still)

-"they dont accept visitors unless they're family" .....🙂

-ace "youre really good at that" to bess i fuckin love this friendship with all my heart (also love their talk at the claw mirroring nick & nancys talk in the last ep)

-also PINK AND ORANGE BESS ARE U BLIND (also 1) why tf would nancy own this and 2) where would she wear it??)

-okay wtf is vampire dip

-"boss??" see this is what i meant yesterday about nancy ruining everything for nick/george

-god DAMN she sucks at dealing with this news lmaooo that emotional competency babey + love george literally agrees to help bc she feels bad (AND nicks immediate look of "you just reprimanded me for helping her last ep and i know why youre doing this rn" lmaoooo)

-LOVE george noticing nick "shout out to jean valjean" lmaooo once again nancy would never have noticed/commented on something like that

-"get the hell out of here" was this foreshadowing for an epic dad joke for these two eps? "how do you make holy water? you boil the hell out of it" 😂😂😂😂

-so what i dont get about the whole haunting is the ball + kids' laughter but its all the emphasis on "mr roper" the adult? wtf like what kind of entity is this

-"how did you ever have a solo career??" 😂

-okay amaya's hair is gorgeous here (also "you feel like a snack" ....👀) *ahhh so the reason bess feels so off balance is bc its like a top vs a top scenario

-has anyone who's ever been to prison confirmed this is what it looks like?

-love how ace is the only employee there when they all leave so he had to fucking close the place when he goes

-why does she take the whole file? time constraints? it'd be smarter to take pics + replace it (better sleuthing) but this place is clearly not well run anyway 😂

-so this is a pretty decent cover she invents but theres no way she would get away with it so easily for a real guard

-love how ace recognizes ryan's car (+ is able to find it by driving around)

-"my father wouldnt do anything like that" LMFAOOOOOO SIS WHY ARE U DEFENDING HIM ironically, ace is actually the best person suited to engage w ryan here d/t the car accident + connection with laura being ryans SIL. its a unique set up

-i am fascinated by the concept of priests + holy water being so effective here combined with mcginnis' beliefs and basically nondenominational ghosts/seances etc after that. the show is very clearly big on diversity but definitely steers clear from too much WASP stuff yk? wonder if other stuff from christianity works against the ghosts/demons like taking refuge in a church "holy ground" or using silver etc

-"did this start after the night of sept 10?" *this is where you get the time line for the seance if you didnt know

-this is so fucking funny when u realize that patient sal talks to is actually a ghost so sal really is psycho i guess 😂

-bitchsplain/tall jar of mayonnaise 🙏🏻😌 2gether 4ever

-how did ace get this van? also heart attack when he yells at carson (but then grins at him like a goofball lmaooo)

-"for nancys sake and yours" damn she owes ace big time for all this shit

-"what do we do for 7 minutes?" ...ummm play 7 minutes in heaven lmaooo 👀🥵

-was not expecting ace to look this sexy holding an axe but okay (*ah, its his short sleeve shirt showing his arms. usually hes a sleeves guy)

-"desperate for attention" nancy (from gomber) vs "bc she's starved for attention" patrice --> lucy (and candace also...) we know nancys detective work makes her seem like an attention seeker, but what was lucy doing to make them all think that? she was trying to hide her relationship with ryan, not expose it. unless they just mean the rumors about her?

-so is patrice hiding lucy's "truth" talking about lucy being a whore or lucy being a ghost? what is lucy's secret? did patrice guess she was pregnant or did patrice's somehow garbled mind remember tiffany trying to show patrice the video with lucy on it?

-wonder what captain thom thinks of this stand off w ace lmaooo

-"like you do?" top v top shenanigans

-how awko for carson to talk to karen again like this

-"oh no" ACE 😂

-love how amaya says "be a human" like shes kind of admitting people in rich circles typically arent (^this is an interesting focus in s2 when bess's rich family rejects her, thus making her human again, but nancy embraces her rich fam and experiences subsequent moral struggle which is predicted with the wraith)

-wonder what ryan thinks he could get from the marvins (which he cant get now lmaooo)

-this damn whisper box. so many questions. who named it the whisper box? why are the ropers' old possessions still there? who decided to build a mental hospital on top of it? and patrice! she "hid lucy's secrets" hannah gruen thinks tiffany tried to show patrice video w lucy on it, which patrice then specifically says she hid in the thin mans book. so patrice knows of the thin man? can she see him? does she know he was a ghost/supernatural? she must have a supernatural sense to know about him (unless sal told or some shit) so then when tiffany shows up w/ lucy being supernatural in it patrice hides it to protect her? is this why she is "crazy" kinda like victoria? supernatural elements or ability to sense ghosts makes her unstable? this is why lucy being a ghost/nursery rhyme that she repeats makes patrice worse/"stroke"? how did patrice even get into the whisper box to put the key in the bible and get out without getting trapped? also, her dementia --> lucidity is really fucking off, some people mildly switch like that but usually with dementia they cant even register new shit anymore

-...so did bess take the ride? 👀

-interesting how celia says "your father will be disappointed" but nothing of her own opinion. wonder how much celia truly puts up with to keep everett calm and nonhomicidal

-like george asking nick follow up questions that nancy never really would have asked

🥞🥞🥞(ep13)🥞🥞🥞

-is this bitch just eating a plain pancake with her bare hand?

-"extra case load and excessive volunteering" ugh. nancy's family here are like, gross in how "good" of people they are // unrealistic, trying to paint carson in the best light/ no way ryan could ever compare (but the reality is theyre not that good of people for lying about nancy) **and shes arrogant to think shes better than everyone else ie the only one who truly lives virtuously, thinks she can do no wrong sometimes even tho using sex to cope, breaking and entering, etc is not morally "good" stuff she still thinks she is the only one who doesnt lie and plays fair (like in the pilot she lists everyone else as a suspect but herself- obviously we know she isnt guilty but no one else does. (i mean in theory we really dont, what if nancy was an unreliable narrator and was actually guilty, that would be a hella cool show)its reactions like that where she cant understand why others like the chief suspect her

-ooooh ironic that in the Good Place carson readily agrees to pay her for helping with cases as opposed to s2 in reality

-nick's house has "problems" so why does he need a lawyer? as opposed to an interior designer, plumber, or realtor?

-in the Good Place nick and george realize they are not going to work out after one date. does this failure in the Good Place predict failure in reality, or merely an easier way of figuring out the truth? does this mean that the "opposite" of the Good Place is reality, or only an opinion of what is better? (nancy says "you all like me" as her opinion of them liking her is skewed; does this then only reflect nancys version for what is the "perfect life"?)

-why is bess a hippie??? and love how george curls her hair and wears pink lipstick here

-if this dream is so realistic then why is the one thing it cant conjure smoke? like how random

-love the locket being a key realization bc with things like jewelry you dont notice the weight of them until theyre gone

-"you all like me" in her perfect life nancy means they "like" her objectively/regardless of circumstance even though liking her is still an objective choice (like they "like" her because of other reasons instead of her working at the claw? (like how you make friends with coworkers/people at school every day but after you leave the job/graduate you never speak to them again) and her "thanks for showing up!" as if theyre not doing exactly that in reality 😐like where is she getting this shit? she sort of acknowledges in earlier eps she is hard to like/that she puts mysteries before friends, but also pushing them away to avoid danger like the previous ep "why do u show up" etc

-is it just me or does the inside of nicks "house" look like the drews'?

-nick has a dick scar lmaooooo (or more likely was hit in the balls or smth)

-love how nick + george match their anger in confronting sal 100% on the same level

-so when did ace go back to work after having such a busy day earlier?? lmaooo

-damn father shane is a creep (casting defo hired him for his voice) and how tf did he just poof + escape? and what did he request???

-love bess's white hair bow here 😌+ her jacket, whole outfit on point as usual

-like how bess is right that nancy has to find her way out but thats kind of a nonstarter for a room full of panicked people wanting to help

-in the Good Place theres no bad blood between drews + hudsons bc nancy is really theirs

-"the only one who has the key is you" in the Good Place nancy has the key (smaller picture, to finding out what happened to lucy but bigger picture, post-reveal) but ryan has the clues nancy needs- following the Good Place's mirroring, this just means that in reality ryan will either be completely useless or an active hindrance (but you KNOW this is a dream bc in what universe would ryan remember clues like that 😂)

-so in a perfect universe ryan acknowledges his family's "criminal empire" as opposed to reality where he only makes under cover jabs about disengaging with being an "entitled corrupt legacy criminal" ie finding the bonny scot relics but does nothing about them, etc

-"strippers" 😂

-okay what is nancys obsession w her beanie?? bc her mom made it? "wear beanies do crimes?" idk

-making the call: nancy -unable to make up for lost time/both her mothers had to find out/suffer alone / in the Good Place nancy was able to be with kate while she called, and in reality she had carson; somethig about seeing the mother looking to the daughter for strength in the Good Place instead of the reverse (which is what reality sounded like, kate being strong for nancy through the illness despite the struggle)

-concept: nancy & nick "let's wait out the storm"

-"i believe that you believe it" nick in the Good Place + owen in reality both trust nancy when she says she's seen things (owen's is the teeth) but nick in reality (and not really knowing details) doesnt think much of their "moment" bc it wasnt real (so she had to leave the Good Place to save carson- but if she had known then he wasnt her real dad, would she have stayed to be w nick?)

-stranger - suede james 💙👌🏻

-"really anxious as a kid" v telling bc of her desire to know everything to remain in control of situations like she always does now

-"the medicine or the metaphysics?"/"you cannot beat supernatural with science"

-i love nancy playing with her pinky while saying goodbye 🥺

-"always seek out the truth even if it hurts" this is straight irony bc kate never told nancy anything. like does that include the truth about nancys parentage? they taught her to seek out the truth, but who taught her that the truth is the only thing to live by? ie things dont count anymore like carson and kate straight up raising her is tossed out bc she finds out its not "the truth" like all that work/stress to protect carson + she just drops him? with kate maybe shes just upset thst she spent all that time mourning for someone who lied. and would she do the same to ryan if needed? probably

-bess and ace head tilt 💙

-like how for all the time she spent there nancy only has a subconscious memory of blue curtains

-YESSSSS i LOVEthese beautiful overhead shots of hannah's hands. so out of character for the show lmao but so gorgeous

-i feel like future eps/grand future will be nancy going through the lock boxes to help people who asked hannah for help

-the video is officially dated Aug 22, 2019

-soooooo in the first ep nancy breaks into the hudsons house and finds tiffanys secret drawer w the nail polish and finds the amulet with a note that says "for your protection HG" yet on this video tiffany says she talked to a medium who gave her the amulet sooooo am i just confused? HG is hannah gruen obvi so is the address for the medium what hannah gave her? or was the address on the amulet which nancy dissolved in salt water to see? so how would tiffany know where to go? its chicken and the egg which came first hannah or the medium?

and lastly:

i close these two eps with a thought that everything in this show is sealed in death. all the lies, the imagery, the fake constructs people put up to get by all crumple the second someone dies- all the secrets come clean just like these doors have been unsealed.

#brooklyn's ND primer #nancy drew cw #the Great Rewatch of 2021 #you best start believing in ghost stories miss drew - you're in one

[an-american-teen-against-crime]

Nancy Drew ep. 16; The Haunting of Nancy Drew

WOW. Holy Hera this was an episode. I have so many thoughts so this is me basically processing everything haha.

Spoilers (but you already knew that)

Where to start? Well let’s just get the big stuff out of the way first and see if I want to talk about anything else.

The first reveal with reading the diary was like a surprise, but it made sense and honestly up till this point I couldn’t really settle on Lucy’s killer because no one seemed satisfying enough, ya know? Like that sounds weird but essentially no one really made sense except for the Hudsons and that was just basic. 

I really liked how Nancy called the whole town out, and I thought it was a good point to make. They had all driven her to this point and I feel that they executed that message well. It’s seriously such a sad story, because even though the town was so cruel to her, her family still cared, Karen, the Drews, and of course Ryan. If she had somehow gotten out of that town, maybe ran away with Ryan she would have had a chance at a better life. Just honestly getting away from his awful family and crazy father. 

But then with the end reveal of Nancy being her daughter? blew me away. I had heard the theory for a while but I didn’t believe it because I wanted more evidence for it. I want to go back and rewatch the show though now knowing why. I’m still a little confused why Lucy didn’t want Nancy to find the diary, but whatevs. 

Carson telling the story was amazing (Scott did such a wonderful job) and just realizing that the reason Lucy had been haunting Nancy this whole time because she was her daughter? Heavy stuff. It’s kinda a cliche “THERE WAS A BABY” twist but at the same time I feel like you can tell they planned for this the whole time which makes it feel like an actual pay off, and it really adds to the story and characters.

But with this reveal putting things into perspective it just raises so many questions and feelings. Nancy lost BOTH the mom that raised her and she never knew her birth mother. 

Ryan is now her biological father, which I am SO excited to develop on the show. It looks like he’s going to find out next episode which is going to be super interesting to watch, and also just taking this fact into account while looking back on Nancy and Ryan’s dynamic is cool. She hates his guts at the beginning of the series, and is constantly uncovering his secrets and wrecking his life, like she does, even accusing him of murdering Lucy (thinking back to that rain scene last ep-wowie). I’m excited to see how their dynamic will be going forward, and even though Carson will always be Nancy’s father figure (of course) I want to see how Nancy and Ryan’s relationship plays out. Ryan is a character that at the start of the series I hated with vehemency,  but have grown to be rather fond of as the show has continued. You can tell he really cared about Lucy and honestly the poor guy just needs to disown his family. 

I also wanted to mention the sort of Chekov’s gun in Lucy’s house, where they saw a bee’s nest and both Ryan and Nancy said they were allergic. I kept thinking something would happen with it-because why mention it- and while the actual bees (or wasps..?) never came into play the fact that it’s a clue to their relation does.

(also let’s just NOT think about Ryan and George. Thanks)

I also want to bring up the Hudsons because they are not just clowns, they are the entire circus. THIS DUDE (Mr Hudson) straight up caused the death of Lucy, told her to abort the baby and yet

the baby lives and becomes literally his worst problem.

Like dude, ya’ll messed up BIG TIME. Nancy’s comin for ya and she’s gonna wreck yo life. This homeslice didn’t want Lucy involved with his fam, and now his GRANDDAUGHTER is Lucy’s kid, forever tied to the family and is gonna be the new thorn in his side for the rest of his life. If he had just been a chill dad to Ryan this never would have happened so jokes on his dumb butt.

That’s karma for ya my dude.

(also can we talk about how he said he’d mess nancy up like he did lucy not being aware that lucy was legit her mom) (and the fact that ryan has been so annoyed with nancy getting involved in his life when shes his kid) (I could go on for days)

ANYWAYS LAST MINUTE NOTES:

-I really do not like Owen and he is as shady as the second circle of hell, he stole a bone from Lucy’s body???? why ??? and is for sure up to something. I would not be surprised if he was also involved in trying to kill Ryan/accidentally killing Tiffany. He could have moved whatshisname’s body and I also would like to mention he was suspiciously not at Ryan’s meeting that night. 

-Also I hate him so if he’s bad that’s great

-Chief McGinnis IS LEAVING FOR SOME REASON?!?! they never used this wonderful man enough and now he’s leaving I’m upsetti

-still dont know how I feel about Ned Nick and George

soooooo yeah, if you made it to the end of this, good job! I’d love to discuss this episode with ya’ll and see what you guys thought!

#spoilers #nancy drew #nancy drew cw #kennedy mcmann #lucy sable #clue crew

[elliebartlets]

5.09 Abu el Banat

Episode:

• *big sigh* this episode...

• I honestly don’t remember anything from this episode except the Bartlet family stuff, which I have mixed feelings about. I love family dynamics/relationships (at least healthy ones) but the Bartlet’s obviously dont have that normal family dynamic, which I think is highlighted well in this episode. It’s frustrating and annoying that we don’t get to see them all get along or at least be in one room, but I’m well aware that wouldn’t have been realistic, so at least the writer stayed true to that.

• It also bugs me how Bartlet talks about his daughters in this episode. He’s upset that Liz doesn’t want to be involved in politics and annoyed Ellie might be late for dinner. Like...one of your daughters was kidnapped less than a year ago and that’s what you’re worried about? You’re priorities didn’t change? Idk it rubs me the wrong way.

• the tree falling on Toby alskdj

• “Doug’s your friend. Speak slow or you’ll lose him.” Lmao I love CJ

• Doug is such an idiot

• CJ talking to Gus in the Oval is the equivalent of me talking to children. Absolutely no response from them at all.

• “One would never know that the leaders of powerful nations respond to my call on a moments notice.”

“Not at first glance sir, no.”

alskdk I love Debbie so much

• Toby and Will need to stop fighting. It’s getting old. Toby should be over Will going to work for Russell by now.

• the fact that Donna does Josh’s Christmas shopping for his relatives……bruh

• ahh I knew we were going to get on the topic of CJ’s dad when she started defending assisted suicide

• wait is this the first time Bartlet’s seen Zoey since she went to New Hampshire?

•“You don’t look that good.”

ha I love that moment with Zoey and Charlie

• Bartlet’s offended none of his daughters have ever asked him his death plan but like. what child wants to ask their parent that??

“Hey dad, do you have a plan for when you die?”

• “Nancy McNally is waiting and she’s already had her bath.”

aldkdjhah

• “Somebody’s in time out.”

“Gus or Doug?”

I’m aware they’re doing it too much but I’m honestly loving how this episode is just shitting on Doug for being stupid and a child lol

• “She has a strange chin.”

“No she doesn’t.”

“Well, she kind of has no chin.”

alsksk what the fuck is this show. I love how exasperated Abbey is.

• “The chinless Swede” I’m dying

• poor Abbey, she just wants a normal dinner lol

• lol I love how Bartlet was telling Abbey he was refusing to sit next to Doug but when the dinner scene comes around who he’s sitting next to? Doug. 😂

• I like how Ellie knew where she was sitting even though no one is at the table lol

• Liz referencing Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan was kinda jarring cause I’m still watching Mrs. America lol

• This whole scene with Bartlet and Liz is sad yet satisfying to watch. It’s clear there’s a lot of resentment from Liz towards him (and Abbey) for how she was raised. Judging by Bartlet’s political career, she probably grew up in the political spotlight from the time she was very young and probably felt very overwhelmed/suffocated by it, in addition to her parents putting their careers ahead of her and her sisters sometimes, so she doesn’t want that life for her kids. It’s a sad but valid reaction. I’m surprised it hasn’t come up earlier between them.

• the whole joke between Bartlet and Abbey when they say

“We didn’t beat them.”

“There’s still time.”

always rubs me the wrong way. Because Bartlet was abused by his father as a child, and Zoey was beaten by her kidnappers! Like...

But I’m gonna give it a pass cause a.) this is the Wells years and some things are forgotten about in the Sorkin years b.) a lot of people use humor as a defense mechanism.

• “No syringe in the nightstand. It’ll get ugly and that’s that. You gonna be there?”

stopppp that scene was so tender I’m 🥺

• lol Liz gave Ellie the sup? head nod. I don’t know why I expected a more formal greeting but I like that.

• I love the ending scene with the Bartlet sisters all laughing and smiling. At least they get along

• this episode definitley isn’t my favorite but I don’t have anything really against it? I feel like nothing really happened and it was only filler, which is fine cause we got to see the dynamic between the Bartlet family.

I have to admit I also laughed out loud a bunch but that could be cause it’s like 3am

Podcast:

• lmao Hrishi really does not like Gus I’m dying

“We just get entirely too much time with Gus. He’s neither cute nor interesting nor precocious nor smart.”

• Liz tells Bartlet she doesn’t want to be involved in politics because she doesn’t want it to affect her kids. She doesn’t want the spotlight or attention on her family. Hrishi understands all that but why doesn’t she tell Doug that? Wouldn’t Doug running do the same thing to their children?

Josh says it would be different and maybe she feels she could better control the situation more if she was a mom than a candidate.

Also I feel like male candidates wouldn’t get as much focus on their family/children as female candidates would because, as sexist as this is, children are associated more with mothers and are seen as part of a mothers identity.

• aww apparently at the ending scene as the camera circles around the Bartlet sisters you see Liz pull Zoey’s hair.

• the past Christmas episodes are strong and you can clearly identify what the main or A story is. (In Excelsis Deo- the war vet, Noel- Josh’s PTSD) but there’s really no A story in this episode. If I had to guess I’d say it’s the dysfunction of the Bartlet family.

• They felt that they could’ve dug more into the doctor assisted suicide plotline. It was presented from a political standpoint with the Attorney General for his own campaign, but they could’ve gotten into the ethics of the issue itself, and that could’ve been the A story. But they like that it took a personal turn at the end with Bartlet and Abbey.

• Hrishi didn’t like the scene with Donna and Josh about her present.

“What did he give her?! I don’t know!”

Josh says that scene isn’t a revelation to the viewer that perhaps there’s something actually between them. It’s another reinforcement that Donna knows Josh “digs” her.

• wait they thought Toby was taking a shot at CJ when he asked her how her dad was?? I didn’t see it that way at all. She’s talked about her dad before with him, he knows that her dad has Alzheimer’s. So when she was getting worked up during their conversation about assisted suicide, I think Toby just sensed where she was coming from and decided to ask about her dad to give her a chance to talk about it.

• Hrishi thought the “Abu el Banat” story was oppressive and kinda offensive.

I mean, I’m not a parent, nor a man, so I could be wrong, but I took it as being a father to a daughter (or daughters) can be complicated and complex. Daughters can be harder for fathers to understand because I think there’s a sort of discrepancy between the different sexes. I gues the same thing could be said about being a mother to sons.

• lmao since this episode featured the lighting of the National Christmas Tree they shared the video of Patti LeBelle performing at the 1996 tree lighting where she forgot all the words and had to make it up as she went and I’m dying

#the west wing #abu el banat #tww #the west wing abu el banat #tww weekly #the west wing weekly #rewatching tww