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sunsmemories · 1 year
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i think of your mother and how she had whisked you away from my embrace that night in your room; how she had taken you from our solitude, in silence, and left nothing for me to speculate — i have realized, then, that this was how it would be when you are gone.
i have contested her, a lesser god but a divinity nevertheless, and in return, she had given me a taste of death.
— the deceits of skyros
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lpa6zn · 1 year
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I had seen a joke about Orpheus and Eurydice, but looking back, I don't laugh so much anymore
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captainkaltar · 8 months
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I got a mythology book from the library when I was about 6 and I’ve never been the same since then
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nobuuses · 2 years
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achilles: i can’t mansplain manipulate manwhore out of this one boys
achilles: so manslaughter it is
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arrow-of-orion · 1 month
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Things I dislike: Lore Olympus.
Things I like: This fan depiction of Artemis from Lore Olympus.
The sauce is Artist Hannah Alexander on X… This is an amazing work so please show them some love!
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cosmic-metanoia · 3 months
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Hades as the "Villain"
~not my typical content but.....~
Hear me out.
WHAT IF....the reason why some Greek mythology retellings *incorrectly* write Hades as villainous is because he minimizes engagement with his toxic Olympian family and ACTUALLY sets boundaries with them?!
(tags are for exposure - some of them did a great job of Hades's portrayal!)
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analeftthechat · 1 month
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At what point did we all just collectively agree that Than has an undercut???
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sarafangirlart · 12 days
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If your understanding of Hephaestus as a character and his relationship with Aphrodite comes solely from the GOW Games maybe stfu idk
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random-krab · 4 months
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I have read various variations (6 to be exact) of the iliad here is my ranking. (These are judge on factors such as, How much I personally enjoyed them, Poem vs Prose, Biases, writing style, drama, and how pretty the covers are (Pretty covers may not be a important part of the literature experience but its important to me and I do want I want on this blog)
1. Lattimore, Lattimores translation is beautiful, Its the most faithful to the original, it keeps a good amount of drama with its rythm, I love this translation. most of the editions of this also have a pretty cover
2. Fragles, it was considered the best for awhile and it still is up there, its nicely written and is a great translation for people new to epics!
3. Fitzgerald, a pretty good translation all together but a lot of the words he chooses to use are iffy if not completely changed from the original greek.
4. Caroline, The first woman to translate the iliad, She does a pretty decent job, it's written in a Prose and is easy to read, there is some minor bias but other then that its pretty and a clean read.
5. Samuel Butler, I am currently reading this so forgive me if this is edited later on. This version comes along with the odyssey and it's written in a prose, it pretty simple but there is some major bias in this towards Achilles in the first and second book (I am not on the third yet). Also he strangely uses the Roman gods rather then greek. But other then those things it a easy read and is doing its job as a nice cheap pretty book.
6. Emily Wilson. You knew this was coming, I am the #1 Wilson hater, I have a whole rant as to why and to repeat that would be a waste of time and energy rather here is the link to that post
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Ive probably talked about this before but i actually am obsessed with the fact that persephone and hades are viewed as a love story . Out of all the mysteries in amcient greek , out of all the celebrations for all the gods , the eleusinian mysteries , which were about demeter and persephone, were the most secretive. No one was allowed to know what went down there . Persephones myth was mysterious, covered in a ritualistic fog . The secrecy was such a huge part of it . NO ONE was allowed to know to much detail about it . And now in the modern age , the actual myth is covered by this fog of misunderstanding. No one knows about it because it is massively and globally misinterpreted. No one actually knows what went down because its so clouded by this face superficial romace that hides the true story . Somehow it has remained secret , against all odds , against all reason . Its almost like the myth itself doesnt want to be known .
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sunsmemories · 2 years
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he has woven his fallen lovers into flowers
and strapped them onto his beaming armour—
oh how he knows what mourning looks like.
oh how he knows what young love feels like.
perhaps it is of these reasons that he took you from me.
and now, my love, you join his lovers
in your death.
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— of ashes and hyacinths
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thenomadclan · 2 months
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My God of War OC Lore
Andreas (Ἀνδρέας) Backstory:
•Andreas was born in Athens Greece when the invasion of the Barbarian of the East began, and the Spartan Army held them off. Out of fear, his family moved to Dion, at the foot of Mount Olympus to be protected by the Olympian Gods. When Andreas grew to a capable child, he was taught the ways of the blade and the art of the hunt by his father, a former Spartan who married a Athenian women. However in his free time, Andreas would study the arts of Ancient Greek Wrestling (Pále) winning a couple tournaments in his young growling life. His skills grew so great that it caught the eyes of the local soldiers, he’d be shipped off to military camp till he was a capable young man to defend his cities boarders. 
Oftentimes Andreas was a part of religious figures transportations, helping “Seers” safely travel the Wildlands of Greece. Little did he run into humans but ran into many monsters, in his platoon he was known as “The Monster Slayer” for the amount of creatures he put down. A couple of years later Andreas had gathered a high reputation, being considered the greatest sword for hire when not defending Dion. He made sure to have his family live comfortably and safe…that was till tragedy struck, when Andreas was walking home he felt the Earth shake and a storm randomly emerging.
Rocks began to fall hitting civilians, instinctively Andreas looked up to see titans long thought to be dead climbing Mount Olympus. Quickly Andreas ran toward his home, upon arriving he found his family thankfully safe, hugging his wife and child as well as his old parents. He’d escort them towards the lifeboats, when almost arriving near the docks he saw his mother's head get caved in by a falling boulder. His Father crumbled to his knees in hysteria, as he tried to convince him to get on his knees he heard his Daughter and Wife scream, and when he turned around he was met with a punching wave of water. 
Upon awakening and coughing up the salty water, Andreas found himself on top of a mountain peak, surrounded by black waters and tornados screeching across the area. He could barely see out of his right eye, being that side of his face was covered in blood leaving him confused and disoriented. Though something did catch his blurry vision, a man with white skin and red markings stabbed himself in the distance with a blue glowing sword, releasing a blue like energy into the sky. Andreas would then collapse exhausted, watching as the man flung himself off the mountain into the water. When eventually coming to, he was in a medical bed, healers surrounding him.
When he asked where he was, they all looked at each other and showed him what remained of Dion…which was nothing but broken ruins and tents of those they could find. Andreas' family didn’t make it, saying how it was a miracle or what remained of the Gods blessings that he managed to survive the crashing tsunami of a wave. Andes would hear everything of what happened, how Kratos…the Legendary General and Ghost of Sparta had killed the major Olympian Gods and claimed that he still lived. Something inside Andreas snapped, he grew angry, resentful, and hungry for vengeance. Upon arriving at his tent which was on top of his home, covered in rubble, he was visited by 3 Gods…Alastor (God of Avenger of Evil Deeds), Astraea (Goddess of Justice), and Nemesis (Goddess of Revenge).
They explained how they have been watching Andreas for a long time, noting his feats and victories in wars, battles and skirmishes. They also explained how what they were about to offer him, would bring Andreas life purpose. The remaining Gods of Olympus want a strong warrior to hunt down the one responsible for the chaos, and bring him to death. The Gods pointed out that Andreas was the one to be their sword, their bounty hunter, their Vengeance….and that’s what Andreas wanted. For the better part of 700-800 years of training with Artemis (Goddess of the Hunt), Nike (Goddess of Victory), Asclepius (God of Medicine), and Circe (Goddess of Sorcery & Magic) the only Gods who would lend Andreas their blessings, powers, and skills they could spare. 
Andreas was molded into being the perfect warrior, the perfect hunter, and executioner of justice and revenge. Now that remained was an oath, a pack that can’t be broken until what is asked is done. Artemis held a weapon of two swords and chains, using her godly magic she had the weapons levitate above Andrea’s with him holding his arms out towards the Gods. He made his oath to hunt down and kill the “Ghost of Sparta” and would not stop what he’d have to do till it was done, with that Artemis dropped the chains, having them wrapped around and burned into Andrea’s forearms. He winced, but refused to show weakness or pain to the Gods that had given him this chance. 
Andreas would hold the weapons tightly, refusing to let its otherworldly nature overpower him, he held the blades tightly and clashed them together then revealing to have transformed them into one long blade ... .The Blade of Artemis. The Gods smiled in pride, with his final test complete Andreas was immediately sent off to hunt Kratos but before he left, the Goddess of Justice marked his skin with the blood of those who lost their life when innocent, forming in the swirl that Kratos had in a form of mockery. Upon reaching the docks to begin his travels, one last God, one from the shadows made his appearance. Moros (God of Impending Doom) offered Andreas one last gift, one that would secure his victory against the “Fate Breaker”. He offered his power of an Undying Soul as well as the power for whoever he faced, would not defy fate ... .Eventually his foe will be defeated and killed by his hand if he so chooses. Despite his speculations, Andreas needed this and took the deal, feeling a disgusting feeling of his soul being tainted and darkened, when he ripped away from Moros the God disappeared. 
Andreas would never feel the same, feeling like something was inside him, something disgusting and foul. When arriving at the docs to take his ship to the location found west of Greece, the water…spoke to him, Triton (God of Waves) and the Son of Poseidon offered his small powers of the waves on the Andreas Ship, blessing it to be the fastest ship in all the 7 seas and strong enough to weather any storm. With that final blessing, Andreas made his way to what would be known as Midgard to begin his tale of revenge.
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GOW OC’s Greek Gods & Goddesses Allies:
•Artemis (Goddess of the Hunt)
Gives Andreas the “Blades of the Hunt” which when combined turns into the legendary “Blade of Artemis”. She also trained Andreas in Warrior and Hunting Combat with the help of her Amazon Worshippers.
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•Nike (Goddess of Victory)
Her Siblings (Personification of Power & Personification of Glory) transferred their life force to the Andreas, being a personification of Power & Glory. Nike trained Andreas in the style of Warfare and once earned after defeating the Goddess of Victory, they transferred their power to the Andreas to ensure the Avenging of the Greek Pantheon is secured.
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•Asclepius (God of Medicine)
Gives Andreas the knowledge to know all ingredients to make medical or poisonous herbs potions even in foreign lands.
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•Triton (God of Waves)
After the death of Poseidon (his son), Triton helps Andreas by gifting him a boat to cross over all the 7 seas in the world quicker than any man made boat.
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•Alastor (God of Avenger of Evil Deeds)
After the events of GOW3, Alastor was the first God Andreas met and convinced Andreas to be brought up to Mount Olympus and trained to Avenge the Greek Pantheon once discovered that Kratos still lived in far away lands.
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•Moros (God of Impending Doom)
When Andreas was about to set sail to hunt down the Ghost of Sparta, Moros was there to strike a deal with the Andreas for Moros’s Power, setting Kratos against insurmountable odds that his “Fate Breaker” abilities can not escape his impending son to come Death.
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•Astraea (Goddess of Justice)
After the Events of GOW3, rightfully Justice wasn’t served, but once the OC was brought to what remained on Mount. Olympus to hunt down the “Ghost of Sparta” she channeled her Godly Blessings onto the Andreas to bring Justice to all who suffered at the hands of Kratos, even giving the Andreas a red marking similar to Kratos that was the blood stained innocent lives forever as a reminder to the Andreas of what he is fighting for.
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•Nemesis (Goddess of Revenge)
After the Events of GOW3, Revenge was the only thing on Andreas’s mind to the point it was maddening…they lost everything…someone had to pay for this, good news being that Nemesis, Astraea, and Alastor were there to give what Andreas craved…a chance at Revenge. 
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•Demeter (Goddess of Agriculture)
One of the Gods/Goddesses who gave their “Blessing” or “Power” of their assigned gifts to Andreas. Demeter gave her power of Agriculture to Andreas, not so much to grow food but to grow vegetation, vines or trees to OC’s command for either living off of or defense/attacking capability. 
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•Circe (Goddess of Sorcery & Magic)
One of the hardest Gods/Goddesses to convince of relinquish their “Blessing” or “Power” to Andreas, teaching them the ways of Magic, even teaching how to drain and possess power of their opponent, like a leech. 
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OC/Mascots Weapons, Armor & Magic/Powers:
•Blades of the Hunt (Abilities include: Being able to understand Animals or Creatures when holding the hilt, Summon the Souls of Greeks Creatures that Andreas has Slain, and to call upon any Creature or Animal within close proximity to Andreas to take control of. They can also harness the power of the elements with their most powerful elemental combo involving lightning, the last of Zeus Power.)
•Blade of Artemis (When Blades of the Hunt are Combined, has the same abilities as the “Blades of the Hunt” even when combined.)
•Gungnir (The Spear of Odin, the spear is said to always hit its target regardless of the targets skill, as well as have the ability to grow at any length required by the user for its effectiveness. Andreas found the spear in a Draugr’s graveyard, the only thing left after the war on Asgard.)
•Jarnsmida Noble Placket Armor (Made by the only member of the Huldra Dwarf Brothers “Sindri”, used Royal materials from the mines filled with deadly creatures, was said to be made to be indestructible like its wearer, able to tank blunt objects and sharpe weapons without a scratch.)
•Olympian Rage (Which is similar to Kratos' Spartan Rage, but turned up to 10 all the way as the remaining Olympians transferred their rage onto the Mortal to give him godly strength to rival the Ghost of Sparta.)
•Plant Manipulation (Given the gift of Demeter to control not only Plant Growth but control to his will, similar to that of Freya’s Plant Magic.)
•Leeching Magic (The Ability to extract magic the user is withholding in their body can be transferred to OC’s Blades of the Hunt.)
•Undying Soul (OC has a tainted soul that can’t be killed, can’t be trapped, and can’t be dragged into the underworld. As long as Kratos is alive, so shall OC, only then will the curse be lifted.)
•Doomed Victory (Whoever decides to fight the OC will have the fated ability to be beaten or killed, the curse of never ending victory till his revenge is fulfilled to then have the curse be lifted.)
•Healing Factor (That range from surviving simple stab or slashes to dismemberment and life ending actions.)
•Super Human / Godly Strength (The Strength of Andreas was always limited when human, but slowly began to break limits for a normal mortal, with each day of hatred and vengeance. Even going into this fight it’s unsure how strong Andreas is but surely enough to match Kratos.) 
•Super Human / Godly Durability (With all the training he received from the Gods and those who were tasked in training him, his skin went from soft flesh to steel like armor skin.)
•Super Human Speed (Sadly due to Hermes no longer alive, the speed Andreas would have to obtain would be through the hard work he put in, training himself to be faster in reflexes and striking.)
•Super Human / Godly Agility (When training with Artemis & her Amazons, Andreas had to learn to travel through dense jungle, having to run through obstacles without stopping if he didn’t want to get caught.)
•Super Human / Godly Stamina (With all of Andreas' challenging labors and training, his stamina grew past peak human, while he could run through Greece from top of the border to the bottom without stopping. The same could be said of his ability to never get tired in a fight, and to manage to stay awake for many nights without the hint of requiring sleep.)
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(That’s all I have for right now! I’m having my good artist friend Kuran on my Discord, to give you guys a physical look at my OC Andreas. I hope you guys enjoyed this little sample of what I got so far, but if you would like to know more by all means comment or “ask a question” to know more ^^)
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Greek Gods wallpapers part one! Please like or reblog if used
Suggestions/requests are open!
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nobuuses · 2 years
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noperopesaredope · 1 year
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Persephone Retelling Idea
So I was watching a video essay on Lore Olympus and its flaws, and there was a part where the video creator talked about how, in Persephone retellings, Demeter is always villainized whilst Hades is glorified. I thought about this for a bit, and realized two things:
1) The most likely reason we want Persephone and Hades’ relationship to be mutually loving is because we hate the idea of a girl being kidnapped and forced into an unwanted marriage for the rest of eternity whilst her loving mother watches on helplessly. That’s why we make up versions where Persephone isn’t suffering: because it’s horrifying otherwise.
2) It would be so much more interesting to see a retelling of the myth that portrays Demeter and Persephone’s relationship as healthy and loving, then exploring their shared grief over being forcibly separated from each other 6 months a year. That would be fascinating to me, and focus on the love and loss between a mother and daughter. It could be bittersweet and beautiful.
That’s when I ended up writing this comment (then putting it in a Google Doc for later):
I have an idea for a Persephone Myth retelling that I think would be pretty fun without really villainizing anyone (besides maybe Zeus because I hate him? But he's like, not even really in it, so there's that). It mainly focuses on Persephone and Demeter, and is slightly based on my relationship with my mom as I've started getting ready for college (particularly as an autistic young adult who needs supports to function). It also later takes the idea of the Dread Queen Persephone as she girlbosses her way into a true goddess. 
Basically, Persephone is a young adult goddess (still hundreds of years old) who has a great relationship with her mother, but is still trying to figure herself out, and slightly wants to leave the nest. She isn't quite sure how to be independent in the big wide world, and she's a bit nervous. So for now, she likes to spend her time talking with her nymph friends about life and stuff. 
Meanwhile, in the underworld, Thanatos is...busy...with a situation, so Hades is forced to temporarily take over the role of death, a job he is very reluctant to do. Why doesn't some other underworld person take care of it? Because shut up. So, Hades takes the list of people he needs to take down (to the undERWORLD THAT IS!!! *Airhorn noises*) and just kinda comes out of the earth, snatches people out of their bodies, and dips, taking them along with him. Unfortunately, one of the Fates "misspelled" a name, so instead of taking Persebhone (or maybe Kora, because Persephone’s name might be Kore for the first half), he accidently ends up taking Persephone, not realizing who she is since he really needs to get out more often. 
So Persephone finds herself in the underworld after Hades abruptly dropped her off there and went to his palace. She goes to the trial place where souls are typically tried, and the judges are surprised when they realize that she is an immortal god. They assume she got lost or something trying to visit Hades, so they send her over to his palace. She sits in the waiting room for a bit, where they are serving out underworld pomegranates as refreshments. Persephone doesn't know about the rules of the underworld, so she eats one. Dun dun dun. Then she has a meeting with Hades, who is confused until she starts explaining that she really isn't supposed to be here and why. He understandably panics at this, aware that Demeter will definitely kill him. 
Meanwhile, Demeter is having a panic attack, because she doesn't know where her daughter is. The other gods are trying to comfort her, but nothing is working, and in this arc of the story, during the parts where we see what's happening in the overworld, we will explore themes of mental health, depression, and what it is like to have a missing child. The other gods will also be having a sort of mystery thing where they try to find the missing goddess. 
Meanwhile AGAIN, Hades is trying to figure out how to contact the other gods to sort things out, but the exit to the underworld is blocked or something (basically, no one can leave rn), and he can't communicate with the other gods. They are kinda trapped rn. So he tries his best to keep Persephone calm and comfortable because NOTHING IS WRONG AT ALL- (he does break the truth to her once he realizes it really will be a few months until he can contact the others, but at first he will pretend that things are mostly fine) 
Persephone herself is feeling very overwhelmed in this crazy new place, and is more than a little stressed out. But as time goes by, Persephone finds that she really likes it in the underworld, and can find some type of beauty in it. She also discovers new parts of herself with each person she meets. But this first arc mainly explores her trying to find a place in the world without that type of support that Demeter gave her, and wondering how her growing desire to stay in the underworld will affect her relationship with her mother. 
Eventually, we get a beautiful reunion between the two, but tragically discover that Persephone eating the pomegranate seeds have permanently tied her to the underworld. So then they need to figure things out about how to live independently from each other as Persephone starts living in the underworld officially and growing into a potentially badass Dread Queen of the Underworld, Demeter tries to cope with Empty Nest Syndrome (I actually love the idea of exploring a character in her changing situation), and Hades tries to get used to living with another person and also secretly attempts to handle his new guilt complex over accidentally trapping Persephone in the Underworld.
I have a lot more ideas, but that's the basic premise.
Hades and Persephone's dynamic will be so much fun. It isn't quite romantic so much as it is besties or something (I'm gonna make them slightly close in age, since Demeter is the 2nd oldest out of the siblings, and Hades is the 4th. Zeus was also pretty young when he freed his siblings. So Hades would be a bit young around the time Persephone is born. Not super young, but young enough to seem more like an older brother or something). They are so socially awkward that they end up becoming basically friends. Since Persephone basically lives here now, Hades wants to at least make her feel comfortable and welcome, so he hangs out with her sometimes, and eventually even invites her to start helping him out with underworld stuff. They just work together well and get along pretty great in all honesty.
Persephone and Demeter's relationship would be the main focus of the story, as well as Persephone's coming-of-age. Demeter, as I mentioned above, is a mother who is dealing with grief from her child going missing, and later deals with the pieces of trauma that come with that (which she will refuse to acknowledge at first), then dealing with Empty Nest Syndrome as she has a bit of a personal crisis over that, possibly even a bit of a mid life crisis. Then she needs to deal with the realization of how happy Persephone is as she becomes an independent adult. I love the idea of working with this woman as she goes through this nonsense. She’s dealing with a lot. I love this version of her that I have in my head.
Persephone is also conflicted and unsure of herself as she begins to develop mild independence anxiety during the first arc, and her own little identity crisis during the arc after she and Demeter (temporarily) reunite.
Basically, young adult leaves for college for the first time as she and her mom both have mental breakdowns, while the young adult's cool new roommate and accidental kidnapper tries to learn social skills in the background. It's fun (and low-key funny in certain ways).
That's my idea. Yeah.
Hopefully healthier than Lore Olympus.
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So, I may or may not make a small webcomic using this idea. The art style will likely be simple because not only is said art style still in the works with no fully fleshed out, overcomplicated character designs, but I want it to be relatively easy to work on and write with ease. May make this, may not. Hopefully it could be fun though, since I love Greek Mythology, and I find retellings of it to be fascinating and fun. Tell me what ya’ll think of this concept, and if it sounds interesting.
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modernsleepingbeauty · 5 months
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every persephone-hades iteration makes me so sad why does nobody understand her
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