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Happy 13th anniversary to Obi-Wan not being able to stop holding the Duchess of Mandalore’s hand.
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The Clone Wars 2x12 ‘The Mandalore Plot’ Reaction
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I love Satine. She is AMAZING. She is so fierce, takes absolutely no nonsense, stands up for what she believes in, is exceptionally competent and skilled in her areas of speciality (diplomacy etc), calls out Obi-Wan on his philosophical jedi bullshit and saves his life as well. And the sass. The Sass. It is off the charts. They spend the entire time flirting under the pretence of verbal jousting, sassing back and forth at each other. I love it. I love them. I spent so much of this episode just CACKLING.
Satine and Obi-Wan are perfect together. They compliment each other so well. They’re one of those couples that are just meant for each other. They’re soul mates (if this was a Soul Mates AU). Yes I know what happens shhh just let me enjoy this 
I know I go on about Space Husband Cody all the time but Obi-Wan and Satine are just so good together. Obi-Wan can have a Space Royalty Wife and a Space Warrior Husband, as a treat. Or they could all just get together as a throuple. Actually, Satine, Cody and Obi-Wan as a throuple sounds most excellent. Ultimate power throuple right there. 
Anyway, onwards to the live-blogging style portion of this reaction post.
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Ahahahaha Obi-Wan is pure sass already
Oooh that’s a pretty building. Not particularly tactically secure though seeing as its walls and ceiling are made of glass. Though that makes sense as a pacifist statement I suppose.
Jango Fett was a common bounty hunter? Excuse?!
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“Well, Master Kenobi, my shining jedi knight, to the rescue once again.” OMGILOVEHERALREADY
What were those strange shimmering noises?
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“After all these years you’re even more beautiful than ever.” Obi-Wan you are NOT subtle
“Kind words from a man who accuses me of treachery.” CACKLING
“No Mandalorian would engage in such violence.” That sounds exceptionally counterintuitive, even if this is a long time before The Mandalorian series.
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Did she just ask him out on a date after a verbal joust?!
Those strange shimmering noises appeared again. Also, the ominous music is about as unsubtle as Obi-Wan’s flirting. I think, just maybe, that they might be trying to tell us that *gasp* something sinister is going on here!
There seems to be quite a few lingering shots on the Prime Minister. Does he do something nefarious later down the line?
Naw they’re on a date! 
The little pauses in “It’s so good to see you again Obi-Wan” aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Death Watch. That’s a subtle name.
“Small group of hooligans.” Well that’s going to come back and bite you now isn’t.
“Most distasteful.” Dooku doing the absolute most to chew all of the scenery on this holocall.
First philosophy lesson of the episode. Satine has a damn good point and she’s not letting Obi-Wan get away with any noble jedi bullshit.
Naw he was so worried about her. 
Obi-Wan just deciding what to do for Satine’s safety. I get that it’s probably a good idea but also side eyeing. 
Ok that was not something I’d ever expect them to show in a “kids tv show”, that was rough and intense. 
Is this the first time we hear the Mando’a language spoken?
There’s a lot of religious iconography going on in this episode. The building that Obi-Wan meets the Prime Minister and Duchess Satine in, which looks like a church interior. That hand reaching towards the light.
You two are great and all but why are you sassing each other over the very recently dead dude who is right there?!
“That’s why I’m still talking to you.” SAVAGE 
Ahahahahaha Obi-Wan’s little impressed expression CACKLING
Mining is bad kids
Oooh, a Vizla. Is this Paz’s dad?
“Please try not to cause problems where none yet exist” THE SASS
Omg I love these two. They’re perfect.
That pause before Satine said “meditate” XD
Obi-Wan that snooping around is about as subtle as your flirting
I’m loving the music in this episode. It’s been consistently excellent throughout TCW but this episode especially it is really heightening and adding to everything.
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This entire scene of Satine trying to subtly communicate with Obi-Wan without alerting Vizla is peak ridiculous campy TCW comedy
“I’m in a bit of an awkward spot” Obi-Wan does like using that phrase when the situation is much worse than he’s letting on. He did the same thing in 2x9 ‘Grievous Intrigue’ when he asked Anakin to pick them up from a ship that was in the middle of exploding in space.
Why did one of the Mandalorians have an OTT south London gangster accent? 
What are those? Random demonstration space pumpkins to emphasise the squishing Obi-Wan is about to receive?
“This is not good.” ya don’t say
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Ahahahaha at the line about the loud metallic clanging sound and the machine about to smash him into bits.
I am CACKLING at their sassing of each other. Obi-Wan is metres away from being pureed and they’re still bantering.
This is definitely me reading far too much into things but that look of relief on Obi-Wan’s face looked suspiciously like an orgasm face. Apt seeing as this is the episode where he reconnects with his old flame.
“Unseemly pleasure” hmmm indeed.
That’s where you’re supposed to kiss dammit.
Again with the random south London gangster accent for the Mandalorian “hooligans”?
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“We’ll have to stand and fight. Or in your case, just stand.” OBI-WAN YOU DID NOT
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For such an apparently uncivilised weapon, Obi-Wan seems suspiciously good at shooting blasters.
The rock! Satine!
Lol the Death Watch leader just flicked his little cape away from in front of his arm and then the next shot we see of him it’s right back where it was. 
Guv’na? Why the random bri’ish accents?
Lol of course Vizla was the baddie and leader of Death Watch.
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Nyoom! Wiz! Zing! Random sci-fi noises!
Obi-Wan why are you dodging missiles with dance moves?! What is this ridiculousness? Also, CACKLING
Satine! There are missiles coming, time to go!
Lol of course he fell on top of her but in this case I don’t care and I will take that trope and run with it! 
“Mine was the more daring of the two rescues.” SNORTS
 Lol at Rex, Cody, Anakin and the clones just randomly turning up at the end of the episode.
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bojangos · 1 year
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rewatching the mandalore episodes of TCW and Taking Notes because i’ve discovered:
JUST IN THE MANDALORE PLOT, MIND YOU, ONE SINGLE EPISODE
(this is a duchess satine safe space and a pre vizsla hate space LMAO)
-pre vizsla has a mural of mandalorian’s conquering other people in his office and No One Thought this was Suspicious (it’s like palpatines seventeen hundred sith artifacts in the chancellors office lmao)
-Satine calls Death Watch a small group of hooligans that ‘vandalize public property’, among other things.  This means. She thinks Death Watch is a New Thing, not a group that’s been around for 30 odd years that it should be already LMAO
-NEW MANDALORIANS CAN CARRY BLASTERS (admittedly the example of this was the secretly death watch bomber but. you know.  weapons are not *totally* banned in sundari)
-Never forget that Satine Speaks Concordian (looking at you, ‘she hates mando’a’ folks)
-The Death Watch shriek-hawk symbol is  not the same thing as the House Vizsla symbol, since she doesn’t immediately put two and two together
- pre spends half of “the Mandalore Plot” basically congratulating himself and i am WHEEZING.  “death watch must be supported by someone very powerful and organized and cool and handsome-” 
-They exiled their warriors to concordia and just expected them to die out on a perfectly habitable moon??????? Excuse me????
-Also they say they exiled their warriors to Concordia after the most recent wars and i’m like “........???? which wars are you talking about.  the ones that obi-wan and qui-gon were around for???” because my guy again. you expected your warriors to die out in... fifteen years? ???????!@?!?!?!
-”jango fett was just a common bounty hunter i have no idea how he got that armor” the ghost of jaster mereel wants to know your location, prime minister almec
on that note and more theory: i bet the new mandalorians would presume jaster’s gang was Also death watch and jaster is fucking rolling in his grave at that 
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xxlittle0birdxx · 2 years
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There is a missing scene between The Mandalore Plot and Voyage of Temptation where Obi-wan goes to Satine and asks her to dial up the snark with him (half truths and hyperbole) so Anakin won’t find out just how far their relationship went. Because Anakin will never let him hear the end of it.
Too bad Anakin saw right through that and it instantly became his favourite soap opera.
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thefirstpancake · 8 months
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I'm watching Clone Wars, and the fact that they gave Obi-Wan a love interest named Satine, like Ewan McGregor's love interest in Moulin Rouge...my brain has short-circuited.
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refreshdaemon · 1 year
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The anticipated dive into the planet of origin of the Fetts offers some intriguing hints of character and setting history, but distracting logic hole after logic hole undermines the experience.
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thegreenlizard · 1 month
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Obi-Wan, in his Mandalorian disguise, runs into Tor Vizsla, defeats him, accidentally not accidentally kills him a little, and runs with the Darksaber, Death Watch hot on his heels. When he’s managed to lose the pursuit, he comms Jango (I don’t know how, a galactic phonebook?).
Obi-Wan: Fight me.
Jango: What.
Obi-Wan: Fight me. I’ll pay you.
Jango: … Why.
Obi-Wan: I need you to take the Darksaber off of my hands and get the Death Watch off of my tail.
Jango: …
Jango: What happened to Vizsla?
Obi-Wan: I might have accidentally killed him. A little bit. Um.
Jango: Okay. Sure. Whatever.
Later:
Obi-Wan’s Mandalorian alias: Dies heroically in single combat against Jango Fett.
Jango, to Death Watch: Anyone else? No? Now can we sort out this mess or what?
Obi-Wan: I have politically informed suggestions! With footnotes and economic analyses! Uh, if you want them I guess?
Jango, sighing: Why the hell not.
Even later:
Obi-Wan, sighing dreamily at Jango: He’s so much handsomer than Satine! And his arguments are better! And his solutions are realistic!! Too bad he’s never going to ask me to stay.
Jango, having a politics-related headache: Obi-Wan! You got me into this kriffing mess! You’re not going anywhere before you’ve helped me fix it, or so help me Stars.
Much, much later:
Jango, angrily: Obi-Wan! This is your mess, you sort it out!
Obi-Wan: Darling, this mess started way after you became the Mand’alor. Technically, it’s your mess.
Jango, sulkily: … I don’t care. As long as I have political messes for you to sort out, you’re going to stay.
Obi-Wan: I do love your messes.
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corellianhounds · 1 year
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“You have done the highest honor of the Creed: Saving a foundling.”
I take umbrage with this statement in the larger context of the show this season because Mando still has yet to have what I think is a pretty significant conversation with the Armorer concerning why he removed his helmet in the first place since that ⬆️ was precisely why he did it
This season has largely brushed past one of Din’s biggest internal conflicts by never showing the audience how he feels as an exiled member beyond him asking how he can atone, not discussing with the Armorer why the transgression was done or in what context— which they apparently didn’t have to address because hey, look, the kid’s back with him again, oh also we’re not going to talk about that despite the Armorer telling him to take the kid back to his own kind in season 1— making it barely an inconvenience to ‘redeem’ himself in the end anyway, and by overshadowing his ritual redemption by knocking him out when he goes into the waters and having him sink to the bottom, having to be saved by Bo-Katan (when we still don’t know why she saved him at all), AND by having his return to the covert and Armorer be overshadowed by Bo-Katan’s out of place induction into the covert.
If they want to credit Bo-Katan with ‘saving’ the Mando kid because she headed up the hunting party even though Din was the one to actually grab the kid in the end, fine, whatever, but it is also the most overt way to again show that everything of value that Din has done this season has still been pushed to the side in favor of showcasing Bo-Katan
Unless they’re leading up to Din having some ego issue regarding Bo-Katan’s popularity and place within the covert because of how much he’s being shoved aside (which is entirely out of character for him), I’m not sure why they aren’t making him and his character more of the focus of the season. We’re not getting anything from him regarding his feelings or direction in terms of the bigger picture, which is why all of the episodes feel like filler— They’re achieving plot points like a checklist instead of showing us how Din feels about anything by not tying the emotional stakes to the physical ones. There’s no tension or narrative weight to any of these actions. His dialogue regarding the Creed, his redemption, and teaching and bonding with the kid (his character’s two main focuses) has been factual and exposition-y without feeling like his story is being told.
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stairset · 1 year
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The Ahsoka show might be great. It might suck. It might just be mid. Either way I’m glad Rebels is gonna be essential viewing (I mean more than it already is) and the normies will no longer have any excuse to blatantly ignore it just cause they assume it’s Too Kiddy because of the art style. I had to deal with people saying Solo was the first time the Imperial March was established as the Empire’s in-universe national anthem. I had to deal with people saying Fallen Order was the first time a Jedi knighting ceremony was shown in canon. I had to deal with people watching Clone Wars season 7 and thinking Ursa was the Armorer cause they didn’t take five seconds to read the end credits. I had to deal with people who didn’t watch Clone Wars OR Rebels talking about Mandalore stuff and thinking they know more than me cause they skimmed a Wookieepedia article. I had to deal with people saying the Obi-Wan show should’ve been about Maul hunting down Obi-Wan as if it wasn’t a story that had already been told 5 years prior. No more. At long last I shall be free.
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one weird thing about the Children of the Watch is that the narrative seems to think they’re more extreme than Death Watch (I think because they’re way more religious????) but in actuality they’re the faction most chill about the Mandalorian imperative to seek conflict outside of the New Mandalorians. like, being warriors is a huge part of their culture, but they don’t seem inclined to start a war to prove it, which makes them less extreme than Death Watch in my book. 
10/10, would build a time machine to send the Armorer back to challenge Shae and Heta Kol
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its-captain-sir · 2 years
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something something a lot of the lore being used in current star wars projects owes itself to rebels and yet the show and its storylines are constantly ignored or brushed aside........
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itstimeforstarwars · 2 years
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"i feel like for a bit there i had an au percolating about obi wan time traveling and becoming korkie's double in order to save satine" 👀 oh? (if you want to talk about it)
See okay I really haven't thought this one out a whole lot but there's so many fun things that could happen with it!
-Obi-Wan is 18. One day he wakes up and the Republic is at war, and the Jedi are leading it. He goes to the Jedi for help, because he has no idea what's going on, and they don't believe he is who he says he is. They already have an Obi-Wan Kenobi, you see, and this has to be some sort of Sith trick.
-Obi-Wan gets frustrated and seeks help from another friend--Satine. She doesn't know how to send him back to his own time, how to make the Jedi believe him (but she believes him, she always has), or how to stop this war that they both agree the Jedi shouldn't be leading, but she does know how to offer a lost child shelter. And Korkie needs help learning how to deal with the intricacies of the Senate, and Satine's good friend is Padmé, and Padmé uses doubles as bodyguards, and hey, do you mind keeping an eye out...
-Obi-Wan does keep an eye out. And then when some assholish Zabrak comes trying to usurp Satine, he's quite unprepared for Korkies unassuming bodyguard to fight him off long enough for General Kenobi to rescue everyone.
-Obi-Wan has no idea how close Satine came to dying that day.
Alternatively:
-Ben Kenobi is an old man, until very suddenly, he isn't.
-After dying on the Death Star, he wakes up on Mandalore. He looks very young, though he's not entirely sure how young. His best guess is somewhere between 16 and 23. He has a padawan braid. He cuts it off.
-It's the middle of the Clone Wars. He thinks it's...close...to the time Satine died. He's not entirely certain. The war has all sort of blurred together in his memories, into a mess of pain and loss and betrayal and Anakin--
-Anyway. Satine dies soon, and Ahsoka leaves the Order. Ben can stop that. He remembers this part. He can make it happen differently.
-He shows up on Satine's doorstep, looking like a lost little Jedi, with sweet manners and a very shell-shocked demeanor, and Satine knows beyond a doubt that this is Obi-Wan Kenobi's child. This is Obi-Wan's child, and he has run away from the war, and he has deliberately sought asylum from a neutral planet. And she says, mine now.
-He's not quite Korkie's age, but they do look very similar. If pressed, they could pass as siblings. Even twins, if no one looked too carefully.
-Korkie is 110% on board to hide a Jedi. It is possible that Korkie has hidden several other Jedi refugees before. Ben's not entirely certain; Ben also will not ask. If there are Jedi taking refuge on Mandalore, that only makes it more likely that they will survive the inevitable betrayal by the clone troopers.
-Death Watch is getting bolder, and Satine fears for Korkie's safety. She remembers another young Jedi protector, protecting another New Mandalorian noble. She should not ask this shell-shocked child to protect her nephew. She does anyway.
-Korkie teaches Ben everything he does not know about being a Mandalorian. Ben teaches Korkie everything he does not know about politics and lying by telling the truth. He also teaches Korkie to use a lightsaber. Just in case.
-And when Maul tries to take over, he finds himself taken by surprise by two unassuming young men who take great offense to an attempt against their aunt's life.
-And when Ahsoka leaves the Order, Satine sees another lost child of Obi-Wan's, and she again says mine now.
-Maul isn't dead. He's pissed off and in a dungeon somewhere but he isn't dead. He's spinning stories to Ahsoka about how Anakin is the next Sith apprentice, about how the mysterious Sith Master only took Dooku until Anakin could fully come into his power, about how the Sith Master had betrayed Maul, and of course Ahsoka knows it's all banthashit--
-Except Ben the bodyguard agrees with him, and isn't that interesting--
-Do you think the Jedi would let me come back to them if I kill the head of state even if he's secretly a sith lord--
Anyway, regardless of whether Ben travels forwards or backwards, this story would include:
-remarks about how Ben and Korkie look remarkably similar (and no clear conclusion on whether there's a reason for that, because I prefer my Korkies of dubious parentage and Force sensitivity)
-Korkie gets to use a lightsaber
-General Kenobi shows up and finds an identical Force presence and has a "Why are you me? I'm me?" kind of moment.
-Satine introduces Ben to Padmé who introduces him to Sabé who gives him a lot of tips about being a double once she realizes what's going on. They're great friends, even though Ben seems...odd, at times.
-Ben has no idea about the chips.
:)
But yeah I don't really have a lot for this story these are just the half-baked percolations. It's fun to think about when I have no idea what I'm doing with paw and galidraan.
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fangeek-girl · 3 days
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Mandalore is the Star Wars version of Minecraft
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I noticed something really interesting when watching season 2 episode 7, and I really want to let out all my thoughts. Before Mayfeld starts talking about how rules change when you're desperate, he's talking about how who rules the galaxy doesn't matter to those on outer planets. Something that really stuck out to me was when he said something along the lines of "you think differently, whether you're born on Mandalore or Alderaan, but both don't exist anymore."
And, like, you'd assume that what he's saying is to get under Din's skin and, yeah, that's definitely what he's trying to do, since the comments about his helmet came right after. Then I remembered, Din wasn't born on Mandalore, and I feel like that'd be an interesting thing for season 3 to explore. Din is a mandalorian, yes, and now he's the king of Mandalore, but he's also a child of the watch, and a foundling. I want all these facts to intertwine the story of season 3, and to explore what it means to be mandalorian. Maybe we meet some clones and see their own connections to Mandalore, or meet other groups of mandalorians, all following a different 'way'. At one point I'd love to see the planet where Din was born again, whether it had been destroyed or rebuilt. Season 3 could take a look into what defines the mandalorian culture, and could challenge the different characters ideas of what a mandalorian is, similar to "The Heiress" episode, but on a wider scale.
Sorry about the rambling, but Mayfeld's comment really got me thinking about identity and what makes a place 'home'
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xxlittle0birdxx · 2 years
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WIP: Obi-wan/Satine; post-Brotherhood
This took over my head after reading this but from Mike Chen’s Brotherhood.
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It was hard to avoid her. The latest passionate exhortation to choose neutrality, and prevent the war from escalating was all over the HoloNet. It was in a report prepared for the Council. Not just the text, as was the usual custom, but an audio and video recording, as well. He could console himself in that Yoda chose to only display the speech’s text. He could picture her so clearly in his mind’s eye, though. The blonde hair that would escape whatever coiffure she’d twisted it into to fall in wisps around her face. The color of her eyes that shifted from the crystalline blue waters of Scarif to the rich shade of the lapis mined on Draboon. The tiny line between her brows that would deepen during their frequent bickering arguments. The small, private smile she had just for him. The one that warmed him from the tips of his ears to the soles of his boots. Would she wear a dress in blue, her favorite color? Or would she wear something in dark pink? Or purple? He’d once relented on his birthday to look up images of her at some school opening she’d attended earlier in the day. She had worn green, his favorite color. He entertained the idea that she’d done it for him, because it was a color she rarely wore on its own. Her subtle way of saying hello from across the stars.
The question still haunted him. What if he’d done what was good for his soul, and bent the Code? Perhaps then, he could function as though he didn’t share a single brain cell with Anakin. Like a ginger tooka or lothcat.
‘Master Obi-wan, insights you have on the Duchess?’ Yoda’s warble startled him from his uncharacteristic reverie.
Obi-wan took a moment to reposition himself in the chair, crossing his ankle over his opposite knee. ‘I’m afraid anything I might have to add is sadly outdated.’ He spread his hands apart in mute apology. ‘I haven’t seen or spoken to the Duchess in sixteen years.’
Sixteen years, eight months, and twenty-five days to be exact. But who was counting?
‘Know her best on the Council, you do,’ persisted Yoda.
Obi-wan resisted the urge to pinch the bridge of his nose. Yoda wouldn’t give up so easily. It was just good policy to keep a place as potentially volatile as Mandalore in the back of one’s mind. Unbidden, the memory of dozens of tiny, seemingly inconsequential intimacies arose. The scent of her perfume, faded after a long day, whispering in the hollow of her throat. The touch of her hand against his cheek. The way she twirled a lock of hair around her index finger while she read. Even how she bit her lip just before her head fell back as she… He twitched his robes to drape over his hips a little more securely, and tried with all his might to let it go. ‘She is a committed pacifist. Trying to persuade her to aid the side of the Republic would only waste our time and hers. It would be a futile endeavour.’
‘Even for the Great Negotiator?’ Kit Fisto grinned slyly.
‘Especially for the Great Negotiator,’ Obi-wan said firmly. Satine would see it as a personal challenge to find a hundred ways to call him a pompous ass in the most diplomatic language possible, if not the tone.
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merrysithmas · 1 year
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gotta LOVE how bo katan "needed" the darksaber then got it as a plot device for the 3rd time, then lost it AGAIN, and it BROKE lmfao so now she has nothing
and theyre obviously going to give it's kyber crystal to din and/or Grogu (prob din first then Grogu will inherit it) to form some New iconic weapon. kings.
and all of this basically says that despite rerouting the entire season for her BS storyline Bo Katan is Still Unimportant Enough Narratively that She Should Not Have A Powerful Iconic Symbolic Star Wars Weapon and will most definitely be a scribbled footnote character death at some point that will be used to progress someone more important's story (Grogu)
and i gotta say at least that is satisfying
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