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seraphimfall · 1 year
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i’m sorry but even if your personal version of mormonism excludes all the “if you’re a good mormon your skin will turn white when you die, no matter your race” and “dark skin is a sign of the devil” bs, your religion is still racist.
the idea that israelites sailed across the atlantic ocean and formed a population in north america that could be attributed to native americans is racist.
the idea that jesus christ appeared to native americans and converted them to christianity pre-colonial times is racist.
the idea that the arrival of christianity to north america with european colonialism was a prophesied “reintroduction” of christianity is racist.
the foundations of your religion are racist.
the foundations of your religion are historical negationism.
the foundations of your religion justify american colonialism as the will of god.
try as hard as you want, it’s impossible to remove racism from mormonism. it’s racist by nature.
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judahmaccabees · 26 days
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men are but beasts under the sun, burnt up in carnality
I'm from Heaven and respect the Sun
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superreader30 · 3 months
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wasmormon · 1 year
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Updated lyrics to the popular primary song to be more historically correct (complete with hand motions): Book of Mormon stories that my teacher told to me Were about the Lamanites, but lack historicity... Read the lyrics at: https://wasmormon.org/truth-behind-the-book-of-mormon-stories/ (link in bio) #liesmychurchtoldme #exmo #exmormon #sundaschool #liesmyprophettoldme #bookofmormon #mormon #mormonstories #primarysongs #mormonprimary #history #mormontruthclaims #mormontruthcrisis #mormonfaithcrisis #faithdeconstruction #poetry #liesmyteachertoldme #postmormon #lamanites #nephites https://www.instagram.com/p/CmZpgWMuszW/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
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Prophet Joseph Smith was Black
Prophet Joseph Smith was Black
Prophet Joseph Smith (December 23, 1805 – June 27, 1844) was a Black man, and he was an American religious leader and founder of Mormonism and the Latter Day Saint movement. When he was 24, Joseph Smith published the Book of Mormon. By the time of his death, 14 years later, he had attracted tens of thousands of followers and founded a religion that continues to the present with millions of global…
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nephis-bow-and-aroace · 5 months
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call my dodgeball team the Samuelites the way that we be divinely protected from projectiles
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peppermint-rat · 11 months
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Sooo did anyone else sing that 'Book of Mormon Stories' song in primary with the charades where, when Lamanites were mentioned, you held the back of your hand up to your forehead to denote a feather
How much fuckin racism surrounding the Lamanites flew over your head as a kid cause it was So Much for me
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deathbars · 1 year
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Mormons will sit there crying and shitting their pants over how they're "not racist" anymore (they still are) specifically only to black people because they cannot even think for two seconds that the book they "know to be true" is a completely whitewashed rewriting of all of precolonial American history (with added imaginary colonizers from Europe for good measure!) and at it's very core is racist as fucking hell because it is a complete denial of Native American history and even possibly some Mesoamerican history too according to apologists. Racism is a core part of the religion that cannot be removed.
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cyoautzbdh · 1 year
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ramshacklefey · 1 year
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It's amazing to me just how good the Mormon church has been at hiding just how bad they really are from public view. Even the shit that gets spread around is the relatively harmless bullshit. They had a crazy prophet with magic glasses. They believe in god-mandated polygyny. They think everyone who is good enough will get their very own planet after the world ends. They wear magic underpants. Mormon men are all paladins.
Here's one of the ones you hear less often:
See, like many other Christian sects, the Mormons really do believe that the existence of Christ obviates the existence of Judaism. Judaism was just a placeholder until the "real" church could be established by Jesus.
And the Mormons in particular believe, dead ass, that the entire inheritance of Israel has been given to them, because the Jews failed to recognize the Messiah when he was on Earth. They really do. They have this whole system where people are given a "divine revelation" about which of the Tribes of Israel they're a member of (don't worry, they decided that most people belong to the two tribes that are willing to "adopt" people. Only the most specialest boys and girls are members of the original ten).
Let's sum up so far. The Mormons believe that they are the people of Israel, chosen and protected by God. If Jews want to get back in on that party, they can always repent and convert to Mormonism, the one true church to which God gave all the rights and blessings that were originally bestowed on Abraham's house.
But it doesn't stop there!
The Mormons also believe, in all seriousness, that all Indigenous peoples of the Americas are descended from a small group of Jewish people who left just before the fall of Jerusalem (~600 bc iirc). Their entire weird-ass extra bible is a chronicle of those people's history in [unspecific part of America]. At the very beginning of the book, two brothers in the original family turn away from god, so they and all their descendants are cursed with dark skin, so that the good Nephites (who remain "white and delightsome") will always be able to tell themselves apart from the wicked Lamanites.
So, you've got supposedly Jewish people running around the Americas. And the "good" ones are white, and the "bad" ones are brown. Then, ofc, Jesus comes to visit them (I guess supposedly that's part of what he was doing during his dirt nap? Or possibly after he left again, it's not clear), and they all convert to Christianity, which they think is clearly the natural evolution of Judaism. Well, at the end of the book, all of them become wicked, in a kind of weird pseudo-apocalyptic series of events. They are all cursed with dark skin, until such time as they repent for their ancestors sins and return to the gospel.
But of course, Mormons being the good and kind people they are, they want everyone to receive the blessings of God and be brought into the houses of Israel etc etc. And it isn't the fault of those poor little Indigenous children that their distant ancestors turned away from God and became wicked.
So what's the natural answer? Well, Mormons are real big on missionary work, as we all know. But apparently that wasn't enough in this case.
Because the Mormon church has been one of the big players in abducting as many Indigenous children as possible, in order to indoctrinate them into being good Mormons, so that they can turn white again and be blessed. My mother remembers hearing talks about this in the 70s and 80s. The church literally had a "Lamanite Adoption Program," where families in the church were encouraged to get as many Indigenous children as possible away from their families and not let them be reunited until they were fully assimilated and ready to go back and proselytize about how wonderful the church is.
The church leadership literally talked about how wonderful it was to see these children becoming whiter. Actually whiter. Like, saying that when they finally saw them with their families again, it was beautiful how much paler they were.
I'm pretty sure this program has been officially ended, but it doesn't take a genius to speculate about who might be behind the curtains on the movement in the western US to gut the ICWA....
So yeah. Next time someone tries to tell you that the Mormons are just harmless weirdos, please remember that they're an antisemitic cult that advocates for the forced assimilation of Indigenous children to help them escape the cursed brown skin of their ancestors.
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brothermouse · 3 months
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I’ve mentioned before that I’m in charge of the ward program, and for this Fast Sunday I thought I’d dig up some Abish art. Poked around the church’s website and pretty soon I found this illustration of Abish and the Lamanite Queen from a church magazine article from 2020 and I just had to use it because, I mean….just look.
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You guy get it, right?
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judahmaccabees · 10 days
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men are ravishing beasts, in a prison of spirit, not to be worshiped as highest Saints keeping all lost & degraded
- Jesus Christ
Your pretend gurus demand worship in the flesh, claiming themselves to be Most High, for they are tyrant greedy pigs in sheep's clothing.
Shame.
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bookofmormonmemes · 8 months
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WHERE is our promised BoM Tumblr Sexyman Tournament 😡
Well we'll have to discuss it to pick who should go against who but have this to tide you over
Edit: I'm an idiot and mixed up Mormon and Moroni 😔 the saddest of times
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apollos-olives · 5 months
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There are more than 45,000 denominations of Christianity globally. No denomination believes the same thing. It’s really weird, but yeah, some Christians believe in an eternal hell, some believe that everyone is going to heaven, some don’t believe in the Bible literally, some take the bible VERY LITERALLY, etc. Some people Mormons even believe that black people are cursed!
in 1957 Joseph Fielding Smith taught that the "dark skin was placed upon the Lamanites so that they could be distinguished from the Nephites and to keep the two peoples from mixing. The dark skin was the sign of the curse.
And in 1974 the Church published a pamphlet entitled "Lamanites and the Book of Mormon" which stated that the "Lamanites were marked by the Lord with a darker skin."
Whether this is taught anymore, idk, I’m not Mormon. But it’s always interesting to know new things.
MORMONS BELIEVE WHAT
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nerdygaymormon · 2 months
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Alma 9:16-17 - Traditions of their Fathers :
16 For there are many promises which are extended to the Lamanites; for it is because of the traditions of their fathers that caused them to remain in their state of ignorance; therefore the Lord will be merciful unto them and prolong their existence in the land.
17 And at some period of time they will be brought to believe in his word, and to know of the incorrectness of the traditions of their fathers; and many of them will be saved, for the Lord will be merciful unto all who call on his name.
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In these verses, Alma declares that the Lamanites are kept from many promised blessings due to their ignorance, which is the result of traditions handed down to them from their ancestors, but at some future point they'll learn the truth, reject the false traditions, and be greatly blessed.
The Lamanites grew up learning that they had always been wronged by the Nephites, which prompted them to hate and fight against the Nephites.
Traditions are powerful forces in our lives, whether they are based on truth or not. If they are false, they drag us down and threaten others. Being taught to hate and fear groups of people is passing on false traditions.
This reminds me how after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, innocent American citizens of Japanese descent were forcibly removed from their homes, stripped of their property, and unfairly imprisoned. Today, many Americans are suspicious of, or outright hateful, of anyone appearing to be of Middle Eastern descent, which results in violence against them simply for where they or their parents have come from.
People in our church cling to false traditions which cause them to be close minded and ignorant about specific groups, including queer people. Much of what was preached about queer people has been disproved, yet many continue to find comfort in the false traditions rather than to open their heart and treat others how they would want to be treated. Sadly, many preach love but actually do and say hateful things.
Fortunately, there are a growing number who are choosing to follow their hearts and the truth and disregard the false narratives they were taught. Over the past decade, many members of the LDS Church have come out as queer, their stories are shared online and in podcasts and church firesides, queer people are no longer strangers. Latter-day Saints are seeing that the reality of the person in front of them is different from what they were taught.
Many great blessings are still denied to queer Mormons due to the false traditions of our forefathers, but a growing number of church members are coming "to know of the incorrectness of the traditions" and seeing that God's love is meant for everyone.
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latter-day-saint-nick · 11 months
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I'm visiting my family in Iceland, and there's a big statue of the Saviour in the chapel here. My two-year-old niece often points at the scars in the Jesus statue's hands and says, "Boo-boo!"
So now I have an image in my head of when Christ visited the Nephites and Lamanites and blessed all their children. Maybe he picked up a tiny Nephite child, too young to understand what the scars meant, only knowing that she was being held by a kind man in the shiniest clothes she'd ever seen, and she touched his palms and exclaimed, "You have a boo-boo on your hand!" And Jesus smiled at her full of love and said with a laugh, "That's right, dear child. I do have a boo-boo on my hand." Maybe He even let her kiss it better before blessing her and healing all her wounds.
I don't know, but I can't stop thinking about it.
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