#The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

[arlothia]

Saturday Morning Session of General Conference is here!!!!!

#me #mine #general conference #ldsconf #tumblr stake #The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints #Saturday Sessions #April 2024 #Youtube

[exmosuggestion]

it's been a while since i've posted here. but this is just a general reminder to other ex-mos, and also to current mormons, that you have to put in anti-racist work into your deprogramming and/or ongoing church efforts.

regardless of the intentions of the "original" gospel or the current-day statements on racism (including partnerships with the NAACP on scholarships), the church has a racist legacy and history that they have not apologized for or made restitutions and reparations on (including the early practice of taking slaves as tithes, the forbidding of black men from holding the priesthood, the "lamanite" placement program, and no formal church-level apology and public admonition of individual racist statements and actors within the church). white supremacists feel home and comfortable within the church, and we have to unlearn the things that allow that comfort, and actively fight against it.

#ex-mormon #exmormonsuggestion #mormonism #mormons #mormonleaks #ldsconf #the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints

[abeehiltz1159]

Look. I know that a lot of you guys here on Tumblr probably aren’t LDS, but please do not attack the members here or make fun do our religion. You don’t have to believe in order to be respectful. I have a firm testimony in the church, and I get that some things about it are a bit confusing!

I love this gospel and the peace it brings to its members, and I ask that we respect people’s beliefs no matter what they might be, including latter-day saints.

#the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints #christianity #please

[not-so-superheroine]

deseret book is more persistent than duolingo.

i ordered 2 books for a church research project on Black saints in the early Church and also in the Reorganization, on which the one book had a small section us and all had info from the our shared early church history, and it was an ebook too!

and i get physical mail from them once a month. i have no idea how to cancel.

herald house, the community of christ publishing house, contacts me much less, and i buy books from them all the time.

and oh their church book app reminds me to read my scriptures and the words of their prophets regularly if it's not in sleep mode.

i have to admire the effort behind it, ngl.

#tumblrstake #the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints #Community of Christ #latter day saint #deseret book #i highly recommend both books #black saints in a white church #and “My Lord He Calls Me” edited by Alice Faulkner Burch #she's really awesome so pls support her #i hang out with the genesis group bc i am playing with a similar group for community of christ #because the Black saints expressed interest #actually Black Saints in a White Church may have been elsewhere by Signature Books #you can read it for free on archive.org #and if you're at BYU you can access it too and papers on it #i'll promo them in another post eventually #white saints in my church don't get my vision bc their like “we never had a priesthood ban” #but i literally had to do the project bc they were speaking over us regarding anti-Black racism in our D&C #and people individually reached out. like Black church leaders. bc they be doing this. #we made so much noise and the first presidency reached out to ME bc i wrote a paper that spread through the church about it #wild moment. but yeah we need something like the Genesis Group and they were willing to help me out a bit #its too much for me to handle on my own tho. esp with the revitalizing our intepretation and use of the Book of Mormon projects #i always put too much in the tags. i should write a post about that and share my article #it was on our D&C 116 which is like our L-dS OD 2 on Race in the priesthood and specifically ordination of Black men #which they (some of the white saints) wanted removed 🙄 bc of the “ministers to their own race” part which led to segregation being allowed #but also explicitly affirms God calls people of all races to priesthood and also that Black congregations didn’t need white pastor oversight #so just leave it. and ig you feel guilty...cope #i personally believe it to be inspired but flawed #it was literally a mostly white church in 1865. not excusing tho bc some sects were always fully integrated like the Bickertonites #they had a Black apostle in 1915. representation at high levels of leadership #oh and women in the priesthood from the jump. if limited

[daisydisciple]

Survey for current and ex members (and everywhere in between) of the lds church. Not run by the church. Takes like 20-30 minutes.

#lds #tumblrstake #queerstake #mormon #mormonism #exmo #the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints

[divinum-pacis]

Tiffany Nutter and her daughters at the Mormons Building Bridges booth, Utah Pride Festival, Salt Lake City, June 5, 2022. RNS photo by Jana Riess

#religion #mormonism #the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints #mormons #lgbtq #salt lake city #utah #united states #divinum-pacis

[heathersdesk]

There's a video going around on Instagram of two white BYU-Idaho students filming themselves saying the N-word. It's part of a larger trend of increasing racial prejudice happening on the BYU-Idaho campus.

All details, links, and information to identify and report the students are included on my post. Please signal boost to anyone who might be able to provide support to victims or make a positive ID of the male students involved.

#byu #byu-idaho #lds #mormon #tumblrstake #queerstake #the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints #racism #idaho #rexburg

[mormonmouse]

Mormon Memes - You Must Love Me

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#Heavenly Father #Jesus Christ #Mormon criticism #Mormon Doctrine #Mormon Memes #Mormon problems #The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

[arlothia]

IT'S GENERAL CONFERENCE TIME!!!!

#me #mine #general conference #ldsconf #tumblr stake #The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints #Saturday Sessions #October 2023 #Youtube

[exmosuggestion]

hymnal number 3

even nearly six years out from my formal resignation from the church, with most of my life being restructured as far from the church as possible for me, i still get a few hymns stuck in my head. mostly, i find them annoyingly monotonous: "ah right, this is the primary propaganda dirge", "this is the rejoicing at the end of times", "this is the rejoicing at the end of times but sorrowful", "some more propaganda", "this is the rejoicing at the end of times". but one line from "now let us rejoice" never fails to stick out in my mind in all-caps, bold impact type face, obscuring every other thought in my brain, shout-sung at conference.

"and none shall molest them from morn until ev'n"

and i sit and think very hard about that.

(cw discussion of sexual abuse, bishop "help line", inaction)

the associated press received 12,000 pages of sealed records from a west virginia civil case about sexual abuse within the lds church, alongside the intimate details of an ongoing case in arizona of a particular family's sexual abuse history. rundown here: https://apnews.com/article/Mormon-church-sexual-abuse-takeaways-f01fba7521ddddffa89622668b54ac10. this links to the main article that features several paragraphs of details of horrific sexual abuse. within the main article are sections with statements from church officials through both the mainline church and the legal representatives through kirton mcconkie. one of those people was my bishop as a younger teen, and then the stake president.

within his sealed affidavit statement, he explains that maintaining ecclesiastical disciplinary proceedings as separate and confidential from law enforcement is to maintain the trust that a perpetrator has with their ecclesiastical leaders, in order to allow for the perpetrator to repent and make spiritual amends for their crimes.

which implies: the physical and emotional safety of victims of crimes like sexual abuse are less important in at least one person's mind than the spiritual welfare of a perpetrator of abuse.

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while my family's personal history of abuse and pain is not fully my story to tell, i do think that a church culture that is fundamentally focused solely on spiritual redemption and not material restitution and protection led to the heinous abuse that a sibling of mine endured. and this particular stake president, who was likely made aware of the abuse because he was in our ward, was a coward, alongside the current bishop at the time, and my parents. the ball of "secular justice" didn't roll until i was confided in about the abuse by the perpetrator years after it happened. and thankfully, the bishop at that time, said that it had to be reported. i credit that mainly because he was apparently a convert to the church as an adult.

how many families have been ruined by the cowardice of the church and its lay clergy? how many children have been kept in harm as a result of these inactions? how many sins must church officials commit to keep the church afloat?

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now let us rejoice in the day of salvation no longer as strangers on earth shall we roam good tidings are sounding to us and each nation and shortly the hour of redemption will come

when all that was promised the saints will be given and none shall molest them from morn until ev'n and earth will appear as the garden of eden and jesus will say to all israel, "come home"

and none shall molest them from morn until ev'n

and none shall molest them from morn until ev'n

and none shall molest them from morn until ev'n

and none shall molest them from morn until ev'n

and none shall molest them from morn until ev'n

why should we wait until the millenium?

#lds church #ex-mormon #the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints #exmosuggestion

[abeehiltz1159]

“Jesus Christ is our strength.”

-Elder Deiter F. Uchtdorf, of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, October 2023 General Conference

#dieter f uchtdorf #lds church #lds general conference #the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints

[brightgnosis]

A word to Elders on anointing: To anoint is to rub over with oil. A drop applied to a head covered with artifices in the hair, so that the oil cannot reach the body, is not anointing, does not comply with the commandment, and, in my opinion, is null and void.

From The LDS Elders' Manual, 1918 Edition; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (My Ko-Fi Here)

#Quote #The LDS Elders' Manual #1918 Edition #The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints #Mormon Folk Healing #Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints #Church of Jesus Christ #ExMo #ExMormon

[josiahreckons]

Sabbath Speeches: Authenticity

This talk was delivered in a sacrament meeting in the Summer Hill Ward, in Palmerston North, New Zealand on the 10th of March 2024. ‘To thine own self be true’, is a line from Shakespeare’s play, Hamlet. It is spoken by a man giving his son advice. The sentiment has become very popular. Be true to yourself, we say. Intuitively, it feels like a good thing. Sometimes it’s hard to even pin down who…

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[divinum-pacis]

Amish Latter-day Saints: Blending Two Worlds into One

When three devout Amish families decided to change religions and become members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, their close-knit Amish community chose to shun them. That isolated them from family and friends and altered nearly every aspect of their lives. The three families struggled to adjust to their new reality without the support of all that was familiar to them. Despite losing family, friends and businesses, they found peace as they worked to redefine themselves. It was their new-found faith and friends that gave them courage to endure the painful shunning and face the unknown. They learned the value of forgiveness and resiliency as they sought for ways to blend their Amish heritage with their new religion. This documentary takes an in-depth look at their faith journey.

#religion #christianity #amish #mormonism #the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints #documentary #video #divinum-pacis

[bakerstreetbabble]

Re-blog: Sherlock Holmes and the Mormons

[I originally published this post on the original version of Baker Street Babble on Weebly in February 2014. Enjoy!]

Anyone who's read the very first Sherlock Holmes story, A Study in Scarlet, knows that the second half of the novel deals quite extensively with a sect that, at the time, was still somewhat in its infancy: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly known as the Mormons.  A Study in Scarlet was published in 1887; the Book of Mormon was first published in 1830.  So the founding of Mormonism was far closer in time to Doyle than Doyle is to modern readers.  

If you have ever met any modern day Mormons (I've met quite a few in my life), you might find the sect as described in A Study in Scarlet vastly different from the people you've experienced. Portrayed as more or less fanatical minions of Brigham Young, the Mormons in the Holmes adventure are pretty grim figures.  Hard to reconcile them with today's freshly scrubbed, shirt and tie wearing missionaries!

It's unclear to me how much research, if any, Doyle did into the sect he chose as his villains.  According to Wikipedia, Doyle's own daughter said, "... father would be the first to admit that his first Sherlock Holmes novel was full of errors about the Mormons." (One obvious example is the reference to the Angel "Merona," a misspelling of the Angel Moroni from The Book of Mormon.) However, I don't know if he was that far off base at the time, considering how different Mormons of that era were from modern Mormons. I've done a pretty considerable amount of study of Mormon history, and it's pretty clear that Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, et al, were a great deal more fanatical than their modern descendants. Smith, after all, was killed by a lynch mob, after being imprisoned for his political activity. Brigham Young led a dedicated group of Saints out to the frontier country which later became Utah, a trip on which many died.  And we've all heard about the polygamy that was common among Mormon leaders of the time.  (To be fair, the modern Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has declared that polygamy is completely incompatible with modern Church doctrine.) Doyle himself is reported to have said: "all I said about the Danite Band and the murders is historical so I cannot withdraw that, though it is likely that in a work of fiction it is stated more luridly than in a work of history." Debate still continues over A Study in Scarlet, and its depiction of Mormons.  

The article linked below is an interesting piece on the controversy, written from an ex-Mormon's point of view: Mormons believe A Study in Scarlet is inaccurate. According to some reports Doyle later was repentant about his treatment of the sect in his novel.  This article from The Salt Lake Tribune talks about Doyle's later dealings with the Mormons. Overall, I suppose the depiction of Latter-day Saints in A Study in Scarlet should be taken with a grain of salt. His treatment of the KKK in "The Five Orange Pips" still stands, though...

#Sherlock Holmes #Sir Arthur Conan Doyle #Mormons #The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints