#without any labels

[mossy-aro]

why do allos insist on viewing relationships in the most boring ways imaginable

#aromantic #aro #ace #asexual #aroace #aspec #boring AND one dimensional #yes i know this doesn’t apply to all of y’all.. chill 😭 #this is about the allo insistence of categorising relationships and behaviours into a platonic/romantic/sexual binary without any room for a #nuanced understanding of intimacy and picking what that means for you depending on ur own relationships. im so tired of it lol #like some of y’all will look at a complicated relationship that defies clear labels and immediately try to force it into a box without #hesitation. and it concerns me #literally begging u to open ur mind. you’ll be so free

[kirbylord]

i feel like i won’t be able to put this correctly but i love the difference between how azi and crowley express their love and how beelzebub and gabriel express it. like beez and gabriel love each other but they never kiss because they’re not humans, they’re ethereal/occult beings who don’t express love in human terms. and their love isn’t explicitly romantic or queerplatonic or platonic but it doesn’t matter the label except that they’re in love.

but with crowley and azi, they’ve lived among humans for 6000 years, and they like earth and humanity, they enjoy eating human food and drinking and they enjoy human music and dancing and books, and i think overtime they’ve become connected with the human experience. so, when crowley comes to terms that he loves azi and needs to express it, his first instinct is to express how humans do—by kissing him.

it doesn’t mean they’re suddenly explicitly romantic, just that they’re expressly in love, and crowley in his desperation needs to show aziraphale those feelings before it’s too late. but unfortunately, he’s always too late.

#i still like to think their relationship is not strictly romantic #they probably wouldn’t label it anyway #but in my heart of hearts i do love the idea of them being in a queerplatonic relationship #and they express however they see fit without any human expectations #they love each other in their own way and that’s all that matters #crowley #aziraphale #good omens #good omens 2 #good omens 2 spoilers #good omens spoilers #ineffable husbands #ineffable divorce #beelzebub #gabriel

[liesmyth]

would you be able to give examples/explain more about how race only impacts gideon in the tlt-universe? not being facetious or condescending, genuinely asking. thank you!

Hi anon! If you mean my tags to this post, I wrote

#earth conception of race doesn't impact any character in the series except the canonically brown main antagonist

By which I mean my Worstie and main antagonist of the series, John Gaius (PhD).

I don’t think TLT as a series engages with race in any especially meaningful ways. It’s set in a post-Earth society with entirely different social norms, and there’s no concept of race and ethnicity within the population of the Nine Houses. Physical descriptions of the characters are scarce to say the least, and they rarely spell out the kind of features that suggest specific racial connotations, because the POV characters don’t seem to think it’s something worth remarking upon. iirc, it takes until halfway through HtN for the narrative to confirm that Harrow has brown skin.

[See also Tamsyn’s GtN characters description post. It quotes passages from the book, and you can see how minimal the descriptions are, and she repeats several times that her characters’ appearances are up to the readers’ interpretations. It just doesn’t seem to be a big concern of hers]

Then there’s John, who grew up in twenty-first-century New Zealand and IS explicitly Māori in a way that absolutely impacted his character arc. It's not A major theme of his Nona chapters, but it’s there if you read between the lines. The boarding school he went to, which IRL had a high percentage of low-income Māori students on scholarship. The depth of his climate anxiety, his uncompromising “Nobody left behind” stance before the cryo project was halted, and his fervent hatred of ‘the trillionaires’ afterwards... these are all informed to some extent by his background as an indigenous man imo, and so was the global reaction to his developing powers. The “We were going to put you fellas in jail, weren’t we?” the way his initial attempts at publications are all flat-out ignored by the scientific community and dismissed as culty gimmicky faith healing until he leans into it.

John being Māori is just one of the many pieces of his backstory, and far from the most impactful to what eventually went down, but my point remains that he is the ONLY character in TLT whose racial background 1) affects his story arc and 2) is relatable to the audience. Everyone else is ten thousand years removed from Earth, and I’m just not very interested in using racial identifiers when exploring these characters and their dynamics, because the characters themselves don’t care and neither does the narrative.

#on a more hashtag meta level #John is why I’m personally uneasy about any analysis of the series that tries to interpret TLT through racial allegory lenses #especially when it’s weaponised for discourse purposes #You can write meta about John’s war crimes without comparing him to white imperialism #Or you can go ahead and do that anyway but I highkey disagree that it’s a fitting metaphor or in any way deliberate on Tamsyn’s part #and I think the implications are unfortunate to say the least #That said I AM extremely interested in the ways John relates to the culture he left behind #and why he made the choices he did when it came the moment to reshape humanity’s cultural consciousness after the Resurrection #but that’s on a character level! #I don’t think we can apply twenty-first-century social / identity labels to the series as a whole #especially a series where the author says 'I imagine X character as Y but it doesn't raelly matter' #and it doesn't influence the canon directly in any way #SORRY THIS IS LONG! #anonymous #ask #ejg #tlt thoughts #elle tlt posting #tlt

[pinksilvace]

very normal pen sketches from a very normal week

#SGHAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHH AGONY #but it's over. it's done. ack #this one isn't getting ANY tags. it does NOT need that attention #also I apologize to all but three of my mutuals for this one... keep on scrolling #there were other drawings too but this is already at enough of a risk of getting labeled without those #old man save me. save me old man #I do decently like the first one though. that's nice. I rarely like my own art but yeeting it into the void is like exposure therapy #my art #fernart #lesbelosposting

[figofswords]

the post grad why did i get an art degree what am i even doing what do i want in life where am i going crisis has finally hit i want to. lie down in the dirt. or something

#WHAT AM I DOING!!!! #i get up i go to my stupid retail job i stick labels on bags they pay me fucking thirteen bucks an hour i come home i lie on the couch #too tired to draw in too much pain to go anywhere no energy to reach out to college friends to do anything fun #no idea where the even start with getting an industry job no clue what i even WANT at this point #trying to remember what i loved so much about comics i want it BACK i HATE this #WHAT IS THE POINT!!!! WHAT DO I WANT WHERE AM I GOING!!! WHAT COMES NEXT!!!!!! #there's no clear career trajectory i can't do freelance i need structure i can't work too much i need free time #my brain doesn't work every job requires me to move across the country the irs just took fucking three hundred stupid dollars from me #my friends live in different states i can't get a job without experience i can't get experience without a job #i can't work on my portfolio with no energy and no time and i dont have any money and everything is so expensive all the time #i can't get anywhere bc i dont drive and im too stressed to think about taking driving lessons again #and WHAT DO I WANT! #THE MOST INTERESTING THING I DO EVERY WEEK IS GO TO PHYSICAL THERAPY! #I AM EXCITED EVERY WEEK FOR PHYSICAL THERAPY!!!! WHY!!!!!!!! #anyway WHATEVER i need to go to bed #delete later #i got into spx. today. so. had to have a crisis about how i felt when i attended spx (energized. excited. a part of something. ambitious) #versus how i feel now (tired. unmotivated. kind of apathetic about art. disconnected) #i dont miss the stress of school but i miss being around other artists. ppl who speak your language and who want the same things you want #ppl who are excited abut art and that makes YOU excited about art. ppl who get you #i miss that i want that back #whatever. its 1am i gotta go shower i have an 8.5 hour shift tomorrow. wahoo. $13.50/hr lets go

[tea-cat-arts]

On my hands and knees begging the English translators to find a better word for “sworn siblings” other than just “siblings.” I get that sworn siblings aren’t a concept in western media (or at least not in the same way. I know we have found families), I get that they can’t just say these characters are dating because censorship laws, but like… there’s gotta be a better word for this.

#honkai impact #genshin impact #bronseele #cynonari #Mihoyo they already kissed each other on the mouth- please stop calling Bronya and Seele siblings #we all know Cyno and Tighnari are married and Collei is their kid- don’t pretend they’re all just siblings now #i was told there was also an example in hoyo’s dating sim game but I haven’t actually played that so no comment #I feel like the easiest way of fixing this problem would be to just use the actual chinese word #there’s just some things that can’t be directly translated #or they could just describe the relationship without putting any label on it #but I feel like this would help make a bigger distinction between romantic sworn siblings and actual adopted siblings #and maybe put an end to the Kaeluc debate #reminder that this is all directed at the English translation and not the main writing team

[hobartshobie]

to be a hobie brown enthusiast you have to have at the very least an understanding of the politics that define punk btw

#otherwise you just completely misunderstand much of hobie's character motivation #which is why people latch onto his lines in atsv and mischaracterize him #hobie joins the spiders bc he values community #he hates labels because they allow others to define and judge him without his consent #he cant be defined by being spider-man #or even being punk #and he can definitely not be defined as the guy who hates labels (that in itself is a label) #putting hobie into boxes of ANY kind is missing the point #spider punk #hobie brown #atsv #spider verse #across the spiderverse #hobartshobie rambles #hobartshobie after hours

[quorras]

every time i see someone call tron 'cyberpunk', i lose ten years off my lifespan

#note to self literally never read letterboxd reviews of movies i like i cant do it anymore kdjfgkdssd #say you saw the movie and the plot and visuals went right over your head without saying it #like. in what world is tron dystopic?? cyberpunk in itself is an offshoot of dystopian fiction. tron is not about an imagined future #tron is about an imagined PRESENT. thinking about our PRESENT relationship with technology in relation to the times each film was released #tron is in equal measures hopeful and critical about technology. that is NOT cyberpunk #the only CyberPunk that matters in tron is the Tron2.0 character of the same name #i will admit that tron's plot is cyberpunk derived but its. idk man its not the same thing #thematically its different. visually i think tron shares developmental artists with blade runner where the cyberpunk visual stereotype was #- established #but blade runner is more pure cyberpunk thematically than tron is. does that make any sense #and. and. listen to me. i am number one retrofuture fan. i love syd mead. i love moebius. but listen. just because they worked on tron - #- does NOT mean tron is thematically OR visually retrofuturistic either!! the visuals match the time it was made!! thats not retrofuturism! #thats normal scifi based on the every day!!! #tron is a sandbox and at the end of the day anyone can do whatever they want its all just for fun #at the same time. the entire story of tron is being severely misrepresented when labelled as cyberpunk. and it makes me sad #these are very shallow thoughts i just miss literary thematic analysis sometimes. my film studies classes cannot come soon enough #rex speaks

[jell-o-mel]

We need an adult show where people are always doing adult show things like making out randomly except the twist is that the main character is aroace and doesn’t know it yet and they have to try and figure out why everyone is constantly fucking and doing romance stuff and they aren’t.

The show would have a completely different plot so the entire point isn’t that the character can’t figure out why everyone is doing romance and sex stuff and it’s not obvious in the beginning but as the actual plot progresses, the character starts to question it more.

#ace #aro #aroace #aromantic #asexual #aromantic asexual #lgbtq #lgbt #bonus points if they try to force themself into a relationship or label so they can fit in #Totally not saying this because I’m salty about how I can’t find any adult shows without all the making out at random moments #TV #TV show

[faith--in-the-future]

ppl on Twitter demanding louis to drop bmg is kind of wild to me lol

#also i get the whole rich white man thing but record deals are a whole specific thing and we have no idea what louis' situation is #idk on one hand i do think i should use his platform to raise awareness! but demanding this kind of career shifting choice #without having the full picture seems a bit wild to me #idk! #also is there any music label that isn't pro Israel lol?

[fandom-hoarder]

TFW never labeling their polycule Thing because no labels really fit. Sam thinks about it, sometimes; but he's not calling Dean his 'boyfriend' and it doesn't really fit Cas, either. Husband is closer to what he feels--maybe even closer to how their dynamics actually function, on some weird level-- but it's not quite good enough. And then there's the whole polyamory thing. That's even harder to explain if and when the fact that Sam and Dean are brothers comes up. They already call each other 'partner' on the job, and that works really because isn't that their life in a nutshell? Lying to people every day, with just enough of the truth to get by, only really known by themselves and each other?

#tfw #wincestiel #polyamory #dean doesn't label it because he hardly knows what any of them mean #and he gets a little gunshy when sam starts examining their relationship into pieces #cas doesn't know how to translate what they are into a verbal language sam and dean can understand--or hear without their brains bursting

[daz4i]

ik it's not good to latch onto a mental illness as your defining trait but also. babe i don't have much else going on or any other sense of identity beyond it

#''you don't want to heal from depression bc you don't know who you are without it'' yeah no shit. if there's no depression there's no me #also i got the no sense of identity disorder!!!! so!!!! said disorder is just my only identity ig!!!!!! #ik this is why ppl look for labels and i am no different but all my labels hinge on being vague so like . not very helpful #others i know latch onto their nationality/religion/heritage etc. but i definitely don't feel pride in any of those #dare i even say i feel disgust. i am more defined by my disdain for being jewish than my actual judaism #ppl say to let what you love define you. but. i don't love. i mean i love my cat but i don't think that can define me #also maybe I'm just autistic but i don't really get how one can even be defined by what they love 🤔 #and this whole thing is so weird. bc in so many people's head there is this very firm image #and people tell me i seem confident and like i know how i am and that I'm being myself in an honest way #girl i don't even know what myself is!!!! i am more defined by my lack of definition than anything 😭😭😭 #or my worse traits like stubbornness and hypocrisy and obsession #wouldja look at that we just circled back to my bpd. see what I'm saying? #vent #ask to tag #sorry for all the vents today 🫡 i am at my worst actually and i fear i may lose it at any moment ✨️

[pichupurin]

Was zim hormonal while pregnant with the smeets? How did they even find out about them?

I mean, how would you even TELL if someone like him was hormonal? I think he stayed pretty much the same. Aside from the occasional (and initially inexplicable) nest building in randomass places, like behind the computers, inside a hole in the sofa, any place there's a corner... I personally don't think he would act much different lol still scheming, still screaming.

As for how they found out, well, in the comic I wanted to make (and this is a rough summary), Zim was trying to get some maintenance done on the PAK but it refused to dislodge from him. In a normal state they can go without the PAK for a few minutes, but with 8 little monsters eating up resources, the PAK read its host's status as life threatening and initiated an emergency protocol which put it into a hyperstate of preservation... or something or nother, lollll so sorry this sounded so cool when I thought of it like 3 years ago :(

#ask #invader zim #smeet au #zasr #pregnancy tw #idk lmk if the pak thing makes any sense at all #i got a bit stuck on that and whether or not the consciousness between the pak and the body is a single entity or not #zim is clearly conscious without it even tho he be dyin so #but if it's not seperate how would he not know what or why the pak is doing what it does until the point he tries to remove it #it's labeled as a secondary brain but if that's where the personality and all else is stored is it literally not the main brain? lol #i guess it's a possibility that another conciousness emerges along with the body as it grows which is simply influenced by the paks data #or what even if an entirely seperate consciousness emerges which has no control over the body because of the pak?? #what kinda living hell would that be?? #so yeah didnt want to fuck up the narrative and it spiraled into this and i got all existential lmaoooo

[altschmerzes]

getting real tired of people who are shitting on “found family” more generally as a narrative concept and specifically named familial dynamics in fan interpretation of characters in particular because it all seems to be getting painted with a really wide and really homogenous brush. “we need to take found family away from people because they think it all has to be In Nuclear Family Terms and do you know friendship exists and you don’t have to call these characters siblings to legitimize their relationship while making it clear you Don’t Ship Them Ew Gross and THEN you sneer at people who Do ship them” cool cool that is a lot of really intense characterization and assigning of motive to other people en bloc!

like sure there’s some meaningful critique to be found in a broad trend to label every single relationship directly and specifically with terms that have very specific contexts and roles but im waiting to be told when anyone IS by the standards of people making and reblogging these very sweepingly generalized posts allowed to call a relationship parental or whatever. is that Ever allowed. who is handing out the permits. sometimes a specific term for a relationship isn’t actually about wanting an excuse to sneer about your ship (and frankly there’s a lot of projection going on there imo from people who are actively sneering about other people’s interpretation of a relationship!) and it’s because there are very specific contexts and details about a dynamic that makes exploring it from the lens of siblings or whatever very rich and compelling and interesting because words mean things and assuming everyone is just being reductive and demanding conformity to a nuclear family is, ironically, really reductive.

so like. cool it. stop being really fucking mean about people having an interpretation of a dynamic you personally don’t like or makes you feel a little weird or uncomfy because you ship them.

#gav gab #im so tired of seeing people do this lmao #is someone actually being reductive and trying to get your ship labeled ‘basically incest’ #or did they just express on their own blog that they don’t ship something bc they see those characters as siblings #so it feels weird to them #you know #the exact personal preference and interpretation you’re expressing in the opposite #it’s all ‘UGH not every relationship NEEDS A SPECIFIC LABEL’ as soon as the label isn’t romantic lmao #like amazing of you to start caring about how friendship matters as is legitimate without anything else #as soon as it’s not about your fucking ship anymore :) #be real you do not care about friendship lmao you can just dismiss it more easily and comfortably #when people aren’t using terms that are more loaded to your ship #are the big meanie found family enjoyers actually harassing you for shipping fake incest #or are you just uncomfortable when it is not about you #and chronically unwilling to curate your experience the way you demand other people to #because fandom has always catered to shipping and why should it ever Not be expected to do that #bc I sure see a lot of shit talking of familial dynamic labels based on people who use those labels being weird to other people #and not a lot if any of those people actually being weird to shippers #and one or two isolated incidents is not indicative of a widespread problem #do what everyone who doesn’t like a popular ship does and unfollow and block lmfao grow up

[heretherebedork]

I love Joe so much because he's gay but he doesn't fit the idea so many people have about being gay, from penetration to gay bars, and he finds himself stuck in a world where he doesn't see anyone else inhabiting and it's just him. Just him, alone, even when he falls in love, because what the world says he's supposed to be and supposed to like isn't him.

Ugh, the amount I understand and adore Joe because it's so hard to look at the life you're expected to live if you label yourself and realize you don't want it... and realizing that the label that fits you doesn't help because there are so many things and expectations attached to that label.

Joe just wants to be gay and not go clubbing and not have penetrative sex but he can't say that because it's seen as unacceptable, it's seen as not being gay, and he doesn't know how to say those things to Army who does like those things and does fit the expectations of the label and who expresses that he enjoys all those things that Joe Doesn't.

Alex going and talking to him was needed because Joe needed to tell someone and we know that Alex can accept him and not just accept him, but support him and help him be honest with Army. Because Army needs that honesty, he needs to be told.

It's about being honest with the people you love, honest about what you want and don't want, communicating because you love them and trust them and want them to know you, not just doing things because you feel an obligation because of a societal label.

#the warp effect #armyjoe #army x joe #joe x army #joearmy #thai drama #thai series #gmmtv #y'all i love this so much #ugh i could relate to this so hard #as someone who grew up while queer as folk was airing #and did not relate to it at all #and so completely avoided queer labels #because all my friends said that was the life they wanted because that was Real Queer Life #and I was horrified at the notion of clubs and casual sex and all the drama #lol took me until I was thirty to realize that being agender and asexual really did exist under the same umbrella #and that i could be that label without any part of that life #ahahaha societal programing

[shallowrambles]

So I've been thinking. It's funny how enjoying meta is somewhat embedded with trust.

Like, if you're "friends" and have followed a person for a long time, you have more a sense of their values, and it's easier to read their difficult meta because you trust more that they're being charitable/nuanced.

If you don't know them, it's harder to trust that they're not funneling difficult topics into rationalization of liking/supporting gross shit.

#meta thoughts #case in point - so much of the wincest community still comes off super classist to me and it sorts of...leaks into their meta #you'll be going alone with an interesting character study and then you read stuff that just BOOM classism about family ties #then you go to their page and you find that yes they're into that shit and there's typically a desert of thoughtful cas military angels etc #they tend to like benny cause benny is an idealized brother substitute / sam parallel and it's given the most uncharitable reading #just because you choose a partner than is familiar and like your fam members does not mean you're into your family members oh my god #and sure there's tons of visual and overt racism in SPN in general but to me that at least gets discussed #the classism inherent to narrative fangirl obsessions with incest? not as dissected #familism and community are seen as Weird (TM) to them and they kind of tell on themselves with that imho #and like with racism there are just some things you can't overlook to enjoy a series if you're black because that's your day to day life an #with classism it's hard too bc sometimes you can't escape the reminders of day to day life #and when ppl in the fandom see the villain's monologues as TRUTH you just wanna shake your head but know it's not worth arguing #communal living is more normal than america wants you to think...rich folks want it labelled *weird* bc they want you separated and drained #i am begging us to deconstruct suburbia instead of defaulting to TEEHEE incest bc shitting on pooled resources is paramount in a rigged gam #I find the inherent isolation of american living-to-work without any time to visit each other VERY isolating indeed...also... #like how did we get here #where we're so afraid of labels like*cults* and *helicopter parenting* and *enmeshment* than we isolate as a form of hallowed independence #american success culture has a dark side too #and separating low class families is the aim #get them to spend more $$$ and go for lofty ideals in pursuit of american dream instead of pooling their resources and meeting their needs #meanwhile rich folks do so much respectable nepotism and pretend they're *self-made* #to me that's what the symbol of zachariah is ALLLL about #and if you're blind to what his taunts ACTUALLY mean...i'm very suspicious of your worldview #if resource sharing and co-living becomes shameful and *incestuous* for lower classes then they won't pool their power at all #american exceptionalism #spn + class #class #class warfare #giving up college dreams to be a caretaker seems way more common in poor families too #i suspect we see the incest reading less from brown families / hispanic fams...cause familism is more common