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mellometal · 3 years

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Hey, everyone.

I've tried to compose myself before making this post. This is a subject that I've touched on a little bit in posts, but I've never done a deep dive into JUST this topic. I was going to make a post solely about this subject sooner, but this one in particular is really hard for me to talk about without getting emotional...and yet Dhar Mann has talked about this on quite a few occasions in the most insincere, toxic ways. I'll do my best to discuss this topic without getting too emotional.

It's about a serious subject that people still are ignorant about and don't take seriously. Even to this day, with the body positivity and body neutrality movements. (I don't know of a better way to describe just being neutral about your body. Sorry if it sounds weird.)

For anyone who doesn't know what I'm referring to (honestly, I don't blame you, as this is a subject that's often seen as normal and is encouraged in society for the most part), I'm talking about fatphobia. Hating on people for being fat. Discriminating people because of their weight in the workplace, at the doctor's office, just in general. Not many stores having inclusive sizes. People being treated like they're subhuman because they're fat.

I want to say this first, before I bash on Dhar Mann again: I'm a plus-size young woman. This is something that I have personal experience with. Your weight has no significance to your worth as a person. If you do happen to be overweight, obese, whatever, you're not subhuman. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You're worthy of being loved, listened to, treated with kindness, and respected, just like anyone else who isn't fat.

If you treat people like utter shit for their weight, get some help. Why do you care about somebody else's weight? Obviously there's an exception to this, like if they're so big they can't move or they're so skinny their organs are showing....because those are causes for concern, but other than that, mind your own business. Even if they are in those extremities, unless you're their doctor and/or their family, STILL mind your own business. How the fuck does a fat person simply breathing and existing affect you in any way? News flash: there will always be fat people.

Before I get to the weekly ritual of tearing TWO of Dhar Mann's videos apart (the next one will be in another post or I'll reblog this post and continue on there), here's an obligatory trigger warning for the video analysis itself and my response: The following post contains fatphobia, fat shaming, a man being super fucking misogynistic and treating women like they're objects, and there's even a touch of some racial aggression. How shocking. Because Dhar Mann really seems to get a kick out of writing about racism to make it all cute. Oh yeah, you're totally solving racism, Dhar Mann. /s

My response contains my experience with fatphobia, relationships with food, mentioned/implied thoughts of s3lf h@rm, feeling like I'm unworthy of being treated like an actual person because of my weight, and absolute rage. Like usual. My responses are very heated. This one especially. It's LONG. Buckle up.

With all this out of the way, let's get to the first video that I want to tear apart. This one is about the auditions for a record deal. I will get to the video about a kid wanting to be a host of a radio show later.

To sum up the first video, a plus-size white woman (Krissy Elliot) is singing for an agent (Isaac) and his assistant (Evette) so she can follow her dream to become a singer. Isaac cuts Krissy off to viciously bash her for being a plus-size woman. Evette stands up for this woman, and says she sounded fine and to let her finish. Isaac doesn't listen to Evette, let alone take what she said into consideration. He continues to ridicule Krissy for her appearance, that she'll "never make it in the music industry" (WRONG, do you know how many plus-size people are in the fucking music industry? There are A LOT more now than when I was growing up and it honestly makes me so happy. There were more plus-size people in the entertainment industry than in the music industry back then.), suggested that she "become a chef or a food critic" because she apparently loves being around food (being a chef or a food critic are noble professions, but NEVER fucking assume ANYONE'S relationships with food), to the point where Krissy left the room in tears.

Here are a few screenshots for context:

When this skinny, conventionally attractive woman (Jesse) comes in, Isaac's mood does a COMPLETE 180° and he's all sunshine and rainbows. Then right as soon as Jesse did her audition, Isaac is over the fucking moon, complimenting her physical appearance, treating her like an object, and signs her up for a record deal RIGHT AWAY. Pay attention to Isaac's facial expressions in one of these screenshots.

Evette suggests that they sign Krissy for a record deal instead. Because she was "the best singer they've had all day". Isaac, still all hot and bothered by a skinny, conventionally attractive woman that he's treating like an object, tells Evette that people like Krissy don't make it in the music industry because they're "overweight and unattractive", and is verbally aggressive towards her when she does nothing but explain her stance. Isaac sees this as Evette "talking back" (remember how I mentioned that there's racial aggression? He says that Evette is "talking back" because she happens to be a black woman) and fires her. He signs Jesse a record deal and has a blast with her.

The award ceremony comes around, and they're picking a winner for Best New Artist. They pick the winner, and it's....guess what? You'll never get it! It's Krissy Elliot! Why? Because Evette became her agent after Isaac fired her. Krissy goes into her whole story about how she was laughed out of every single agency and that she worked hard. Good for her. Jesse is obviously very happy for Krissy. We gotta love women supporting women.

This video was again another dumpster fire. As usual. Like I said, with this video in particular, I couldn't get through the first thirty seconds the first time around. Because I've dealt with shit like this. Obviously not with the music industry because I don't even think I'd be good enough to step into an agency...but I mean in my personal life.

Being told by my own dad that he was "tired of buying bigger clothes for me" when I was a young teenager, despite him buying almost nothing but "junk food".

Having my abuser make comments about my weight and talking about diets while I'm trying to eat my food, despite her being overweight.

Having someone I know (not anyone I'm friends with) make a comment about me eating a few things (ONE small piece of broccoli, two baby carrots, a small handful of chips, and ONE small piece of pineapple) and said to "save some for everyone else", even though I was saving food for everyone else, which is why I took so little. She tried to justify it with the fact nobody was there yet (why do you think I took very little food?), and she "was saying that to everyone" (why did she look at ME when she said that instead of making it clear that she was talking to everyone [saying "Hey, everyone" before the comment about saving some for everyone else IS NOT HARD]?), even though I know it was just to save her own ass. I knew she said that to me because I'm plus-size. She didn't say anything to anyone else, nor did she make it clear that she was talking to everyone.

Another person I know (not a person I'm friends with) saying that I overreacted (I did not overreact; SOMEONE TRIGGERED ME and you did NOTHING about it) even though they all KNEW my relationship with food is complicated. They KNEW that I don't really like eating in front of other people. I was upset that someone MADE A FUCKING DISGUSTING, TRIGGERING COMMENT ABOUT ME EATING VERY FEW FOOD ITEMS, ALMOST ALL WERE HEALTHY, DESPITE OTHER PEOPLE EATING A LOT MORE THAN I DID AND PICKING AT EVERYTHING. That day, I was begging one of my friends (one of the people I trust to eat around) to PLEASE take me home because I didn't want to be there (never wanted to be there in the first place), I was tired (I worked all night the night before and was forced to go to a meeting before all this happened), I didn't feel comfortable there anymore, there were way too many people (four individuals plus all their staff from another house were in the house I work in), I couldn't breathe (I was either about to pass out, have a panic attack, or just start crying), but nobody listened to me. I ended up getting a bus to go home.

(Sorry about all that. I was trying not to get emotional in this post. I just needed to share how this can affect people.)

Onto my response, which is all in the screenshots below.

ETA: I know the screenshots for my response are very jumbled right now and it’s difficult to read. I apologize to anyone who’s unable to fully read it! Because this is part one of this whole subject of fatphobia (I’m making a post about the boy wanting to become a radio host very soon), my response here will tie into that post. My response to that video is vastly the same, despite not making a comment on that video as of right now (the radio host one).

I’ll be typing out my full response here. I apologize for weird formatting. Instagram wouldn’t let me break up my response into paragraphs. I’ll break them up into paragraphs here instead.

CC (Combination of the first, second, and third screenshots, aka, the first part of my response):

I have a few questions before I get into my thoughts on this video. One, how the hell does your weight have any significance on your worth as a person, and if you do think this way, why would you think that? Two, do you know that fatphobia is a lot more than just judging a person for being fat? Three, why do you feel like you can speak for fat people like myself with this piss poor excuse for a video that I could barely get through the first thirty seconds of the first time?

You can’t speak for any of us. I can’t speak for every fat person because not everyone has the same experiences as me.

I’ve been bullied for my weight in real life as well as online. People have called me ugly just because of my weight. By the way, your weight doesn’t equal beauty, and that’s what I’m still learning. Beauty comes in all shapes and sizes.

On quite a few occasions, I have actually thought about doing dangerous things to my body that I don’t feel comfortable going into here. All because I had people try to boil me down to my weight, call me ugly, and destroy whatever self-esteem I had left. You don’t know what fat people go through, so don’t act like you do.

There are many factors that go into why a person may be fat, including medical conditions, mental illness, trauma, genetics, etc. All of those things are none of your business unless those people decide to be open about it.

No, it’s not always healthy to be fat (obviously there are extremities on both sides of the spectrum of weight that are extremely unhealthy), but it doesn’t make a person any less of a human being. Fat people are human too. Quit treating us like we’re not. We deserve to be treated like everyone else who isn’t fat. I’m not saying put all fat people on a pedestal. I’m saying treat us like human beings.

CC (Combination of the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh screenshots, aka, the second part of my response):

Remember how I said that fatphobia isn’t just about judging people for being fat? Well, there’s the “fat tax” on plus-size clothing (even though it maybe only costs a little bit more in fabric, if there’s any difference in making clothes for people who aren’t fat), limited styles for fat people in stores (making a lot of us have to buy fast fashion or have to spend a fortune on clothes that actually flatter us), not very many stores have inclusive sizes still (if you don’t at least carry max 5XL or a size 38/40 in pants size, you cannot call yourself inclusive), and a lot of other things.

Many fat people, myself included, are afraid to seek medical attention for anything (even checkups) because of doctors who only focus on our weight and not on what we came in to see them for. They write it off as if our weight is the sole cause of our problems, which isn’t always the case.

How about we talk about how expensive it is to eat healthy in a lot of places? Not everyone can afford to make fresh meals every day, let alone once a week. Maybe they were never taught how to due to their upbringing. You don’t know.

I’ve had people comment on my weight, what I’m eating (even if I’m eating something healthy like fruits and veggies), talk about my weight or diets EVEN WHILE I’M TRYING TO EAT, and it’s caused me to wait until I’m alone or around someone I trust to eat anything. As a result, I have a complicated relationship with food now.

Telling someone they’re fat doesn’t help them. They know that. They see themselves every day. People may want to change, but they either are afraid to ask for help, or they don’t know where to start. Some may not want to change. It’s up to them, honestly. If you want to help them lose weight, maybe suggest any physical activity they’d have fun doing and do them with them? I dance for fun. Also, you could help set up meal plans with them.

If you’re not going to at least try to help them lose weight if you’re so concerned about them (this is all if they actually want to change things and don’t know where to start), I cannot say this in a sweeter way: shut your mouth and mind your own business. Because you’re just being a cunt at that point.

CC (eighth screenshot, aka, the third and final part to my response):

There are quite a few plus-size people in the entertainment industry as a whole who are/were very successful. Remember the late Chris Farley and Aretha Franklin? Chris Farley was big, but that didn’t change how great of an actor he was, how funny he was, or how much of an impact he made in the entertainment industry. Aretha Franklin was a plus-size black woman in the music industry, but she’s inspired SO MANY artists we have today! There are many plus-size men, women, and I believe even nonbinary people in the public eye in general. Like I’ve said, beauty comes in all shapes and sizes. That’s why the body positivity and body neutrality movements are a thing.

(I know I implied that I thought about sh here in my response, but please don't worry about me as far as that goes. I'm fine now. I would never go through with anything like that.)

In the last part of my response where I mentioned some plus-size people in the entertainment industry as well as the music industry (the late Chris Farley and the late Aretha Franklin), I was going to name more people, but my comments were getting too long. I'll name some more here off the top of my head:

Lizzo (rapper), the Piggy Dolls (the first K-Pop girl group made up of actual plus-size women), K*v*n Sp*c*y (I don't feel comfortable saying his name because he's a disgusting person, but he's another plus-size man...he was in King of Queens and in A LOT of movies), PSY, Greyson Gritt (a genderqueer person in the music industry), Elle King, Produce Pandas (the first music group in China full of plus-size men), Martha Wash, Chubby Checker, Fats Domino, Big Angel (a J-Pop group of all plus-size women), Chubbiness (another J-Pop group of all plus-size women), Pottya (another J-Pop group of all plus-size women)...there are so many that I found, but if you want to add more plus-size artists, plus-size actors, plus-size comedians/comediennes, feel free to add them in the comments!

Dhar Mann, you'll never know what plus-size people go through. You don't know what we go through. You have NO IDEA what we go through on a daily basis. Stop acting like you do. Because you don't, and you never will.

By the way, Dhar Mann, this will NOT be the last post I'll make about you or your videos. The more you make fucking deplorable, poorly written bullshit, the more posts I'll make! Teehee!

If you got this far, thank you so much. The next part of this is coming very soon. I'm sorry for not posting too many screenshots from the video. I wanted to fit in my response because it's important for people to see.

Have a good day/afternoon/night, y'all. Love you!

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hollywoodfamerp · 3 years

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* TW: MENTIONS OF RACIAL VIOLENCE AND DEATH *

Dear Famers,

We need to take a moment to address the undeniable truth that is going on in our world right now. On March 16, 2021 in Atlanta, Georgia eight individuals were wrongly targeted and killed based on their perceived race and gender. Of those individuals who lost their lives, six of them were of Asian descent and seven of them were women. This event follows an escalating pattern in brutality against Asian-identifying groups in the world that is fueled by gender-based hate, misogyny, white supremacy, and anti-Asian discrimination. Hollywood Fame RP wishes to publicly denounce the horrifying acts of violence that occurred, and we write this statement to share our indescribable grief regarding the murders.

The discrimination and racism that affects Asian-identifying groups have become more publicized in the past year. However, make no mistake, these issues have historical roots that precedes the COVID-19 pandemic. Hollywood Fame RP does not condone this behavior or mentality at all in our group and we will support/stand by our members and followers of Asian descent. You will always find a safe haven with us here in our online community. It is what we set out to accomplish since the day we opened. We will always strive to make sure our members feel seen, respected and heard. We urge our members to speak up if you witness any acts of violence towards the Asian American and Pacific Islander communities as it is imperative to keep each other informed.

Listed below are several resources to educate, to promote, and to donate to other organizations that are working to combating Anti-Asian rhetoric:

Educate Yourself on the History: When leaders call COVID-19 the “China virus,” it harkens back to decades of state-sanctioned discrimination against Asian Americans.

Bystander Intervention Training: To combat the current rise in harassment and discrimination and to also proactively prepare for the future increase of hate incidents, Advancing Justice | Chicago is partnering with New York-based nonprofit Hollaback! and CAIR-Chicago to plan and implement an aggressive scaling up of locally-led bystander hate incident intervention training for community members.

STOP AAPI HATE: Report an incidence of hate crime or injustices towards Asian American Pacific Islander communities.

Donate to Asian Americans Advancing Justice: This is the first nonprofit legal advocacy organization dedicated to protecting the civil rights of Asian American, Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander (AANHPI) and Arab, Middle Eastern, Muslim, and South Asian (AMEMSA) communities in Georgia and the Southeast. All donations will go directly to support the victims and their families.

Twitter thread on ways to help protect and support the AAPI Communities. Credit: @yxkhei

Should any of our members have any other resources they wish to share, please message us and we’ll add it to the list!

- The Admin Team

#hollywoodfamenotice #tw: racial violence #tw: death #tw: covid-19

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ragingeggyolk · 3 years

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Groups need to learn to respect each other

TW: s****de/r***sm

I’m sure a lot of people have watched Keemstar’s K-pop “diss track”(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUxtQVkQ57A) . Considering all the Asian hate crimes that have been occurring recently, this is definitely not acceptable. With the increase of suicide rates in the US, it wasn’t okay for him to make fun of that either. I’m currently far from being a fan of K-pop, I listen to artists like Scarlxrd, Pouya, and Ho99o9. I did like K-pop when I was 13yrs old, but I left that music taste for ambiance/contemporary classical music when I was 16yrs. I remember seeing hate comments on my K-pop fandoms but I wouldn’t go defending my beloved K-pop group. Unfortunately, I actually trolled K-pop stans comments because I thought they were annoying. So I’ve been on both sides. I made fun of K-pop stans while being a K-pop stan literally at the same time. I’m no longer part of either since I’m not 13yrs anymore. I’m 20yrs old now and I learned that arguing in comment sections isn’t morally correct or fun. I’m an adult who’s learned how important it is to be a decent human being(unlike 40yr old Keemstar who is most likely hitting health problems at this point and yet still acting like a kid). I also learned something else though, people really need to stop taking things so seriously. Except for Keemstar’s video though. Feel free to report the video since it is flat-out racist and insensitive to those with mental illness. As I mentioned before, I learned something over time. People really need to calm down when it comes to their loyalty to someone/something. If someone makes fun of Scarlxrd, one of my favorite artists, I really wouldn’t hesitate to join in on the fun. At this point I’m not talking about K-pop stans, I’m talking about every fandom out there. Do you like Harry Potter? That’s fine as long as you’re not going around forcing people to watch your Dramiony edit at a funeral. Love anime? That’s also completely okay as long as you don’t feel superior to others just because you watch it in subs, not dubs. Love dark trap/metal? Nice! Just don’t shame others because they don’t listen to “manly” enough music. Love astrology? That’s fun, just don’t treat people badly based on stereotypes. My point is: report the Keem’s video but also (and this goes to EVERY group) don’t take your fandom too far. Don’t shame other people’s lifestyle choices, clothing aesthetics, MBTI personality types, astrology signs, music tastes, etc. It’s strange how people even stereotype against certain MBTI groups such as the extroverts. It is common to see people making fun of extroverted MBTIs for “never shutting up” yet people don’t realize that it is possible to be a shy extrovert and it was even confirmed by the official MBTI website itself(https://www.16personalities.com/articles/when-the-need-to-connect-becomes-terrifying-the-dilemma-of-the-shy-extravert). Live and let live. But also don’t be a blind follower of your fandom/group either. Explore the world, open your mind, have some fun, and get into multiple other fandoms/groups instead of devoting yourself to only one side and getting into “fandom wars” in the comments. Chill. Again, the only time defending your fandom is necessary is when the attacks are racially/sexually motivated and are utterly offensive. Keem’s video, for example, K-pop fans have a right to attack him. As a person who belongs to the stereotypically aggressive and tryhard “manly” music fandom, I have nothing but respect for other fandoms like k-pop or vocaloid. Everyone else should do the same for each other too.

Sorry for the long post and I hope I explained well! I’m not too good with words. If you feel I misworded something or came off as too harsh pls comment and I apologize :(

TLDR: don’t be a blind follower and don’t shame other groups. Also, report Keem! :)

#kpop #keemstar #stophatingeachother #damn why can't everyone just accept each others differences and live in peace #triggerwarning(s****de/r***sm)

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yooniegalaxy · 5 years

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Okay, so this is going to be fun. So the preface behind this is that V got a few asks about this and then I went and straight up threw in my two cents... and in return got these asks. Instead of fuming about it and just keyboard warrior-ing back at the person ( using person as a very loose term at this point ) I decided to take a step back and deal with this rationally.

Trigger Warnings // Abuse, Assault, R*pe and Predatory Men Mentions. Public Masturbation. I will tag appropriately.

I apologize, in advance, for the length. I also haven’t proofread this because at some point I just didn’t care enough to re-read. Yes, I did cite things. Don’t @ me about it.

Alright, so this is very bold of you to assume that you know anything about my culture as it is. There are more than just that one reason as to why Korean women/girls aren’t dating ( which is also very bold of you to assume ). There is a great divide in everything. South Korea is a very patriarchal society, so of course there are privileges to being a man. But that can literally be said any where in the world. The world is intrinsically male oriented, despite having various matriarchal societies.

If we are talking about Korean women in general, there are a lot of reasons why they don’t date aside from the inherent fear. It is literally the fact that everyone pays attention to their careers first. School is a very large part of Korean Society, as well as a lot of other Asian Countries. Education is the first and foremost for a lot people, which often pushes the bounds of women when do decide to date, if at all.

“It says so in an article“, is not a great defense, especially since the only article I could find about this was a CNN article ( feel free to read it here ). While well researched, it is under the lens of a University study for a “Gender and Culture“ class taught at Sejong University. They do go into statistics about economic strain and what percentage of age groups are single and may not be dating.

I pulled this from the article, “[a] growing number of South Koreans are shunning romantic relationships amid economic hardships and societal problems.“ This, in and of itself, counteracts your broad strokes claim. The fact of the matter is that you clearly don’t understand how expensive it is to date anyone or live in Korean society. Even going out with friends is awful, I find, because we are always drinking and heading to the next bar or the next and you’re no fun unless you go to all of the bars. If you ditch, you are literally called no fun and you can kiss your social life goodbye.

South Korean Culture is very much about group dynamics and it is social suicide not to hang out when asked unless you have a VERY good reason. This brings me to, “[t]he country's overall unemployment rate last year rose to its highest level in 17 years, at 3.8%. The youth unemployment rate was far higher, at 10.8% for those aged 15 to 29.” This is basically the fact of the matter, dating and socializing unless you are getting funded by your parents, is EXPENSIVE. Even when you are out of University and starting your first job, if you are even hired. If you aren’t, you will be working any form of shop job, construction, retail or food and service.

Side note: minimum wage in South Korea is 7530 won/hr, or like 6-ish USD, but not a lot of places even pay that. They pay under that.

Yes, in the light of a lot of Korean scandals and lot of word of mouth about x boyfriend or y abuse incident, many people are put off by the idea of dating. But I feel like this is the case everywhere and not just South Korea. You could even say that it is taken less lightly elsewhere in the world than it is in South Korea.

You also have to realize that this article is literally just talking about Korean Women dating Korean Men. There are a plenty of other races that live in South Korea that are ex-pats, are studying abroad or are teaching abroad ( as they don’t really like hiring people of Asian Heritage to teach English, especially ). A lot of South Koreans hire a lot of foreign specialists for jobs due to the high specializations in some fields. So Korean Women might not be dating Korean Men, but they are still dating.

This is not a “not all men” statement because I will never make that statement. “Not all men” is such a stupid statement because it is inherently bias.

Korean dating culture isn’t dead. People still date. People still count their relationships in days and have cute anniversaries. People are allowed not to feel safe. I don’t feel safe and I live in a country where I am allotted freedom and yet I still look over my shoulder because off the gender that I was born as.

CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE AT THE DOOR.

Please don’t ignore the fact that you are generalizing a whole population to suit your own arguments and needs. You are literally doing yourself, and everyone you are generalizing, a disservice.

Honestly, no. Claiming you are right is actually a rather sad way to try and win an argument when someone hasn’t responded. My country isn’t “full of predators”. If anything all of my experiences in the United States ( and other countries though I will only give one example ) sort of tells me otherwise. I, personally, have a lot of stories of where I have felt unsafe in countries outside of Asia.

NEW YORK CITY ( tw: male public masturbation, aggression )

I was about nineteen at the time of this incident. I am, by no means, a person who is uneducated or idealistic in anyway. I was raised a realist, someone who wasn’t exactly sheltered from the storm, despite growing up in a traditional family. I made a lot of mistakes as a kid but I learned from.

In New York, I was with one other person. She was around my age and we were exploring the city together and I believe we were going to a conference at the time? I was studying Film at the time and she was a good friend of mine going to New York Film Academy. We hopped on the subway because literally the only way to get around the city unless you want to be stuck in traffic. What I experienced on the train was varying degrees of traumatic but I laugh about it now?

We were chased off the subway four or five stops before we actually wanted to get by a guy literally masturbating directly in view of us. There weren’t that many people on the subway car and he was making DIRECT eye contact with us while were talking about the film we were shooting for class. He was literally dirty talking at us and his advances became more bold until he literally chased us off the subway when we tried to leave.

He couldn’t have been more than I want to say thirty or forty and he was white male privilege. He was wearing a decently fitted suit with shined loafers so, clearly not just a homeless man on the street.

He chased us up to street leave with his dick out, ejaculating at our shoes as we tried to climb the stairs and told us we were ungrateful and deserved it. This happened on three separate occasions in a span of a week, different men.

I was much younger than most people that this happens to on a regular basis in the US. Tell me how “my country” as you call it is full of predators when this is what I was subjected to as a person that, at the time, is older than a solid chunk of the frequenters of this site.

Not only that but I have never felt the need to check my drink as much as I do in a western country as I do in an Asian one. I have been to frat parties and have been witness to college r*pe culture, to where I have been made witness to various friends being roofied because they don’t check their drinks. I was taught as a kid not to leave your drink lying around and if you did, you didn’t drink from it ( I should point out that I grew up both in Seoul and in Canada ).

I don’t feel safe in any country for the fact that I AM A WOMAN and not because of any racial bias that I might have. I don’t have the privilege of walking wherever I like without being cat called fully clothed, not showing any skin or figure. I constantly look over my shoulder when I see a shadow, this is not one country’s problem, it is every country.

Like I said, I was at work and would rather not get fired for interacting with someone that doesn’t take my priority because they wish to remain anonymous and not have educated argument. Rather you would like to anonymously bash a whole nation in which you are NOT apart of. Not that I particularly like my job, it kind of just pays the bills.

#yoon answers #ummm yeah #long post #anon

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bigskydreaming · 7 years

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Also, for the millionth time - I’m not actually a Posey stan? LOL. I don’t stan for actors or celebrities. At all. Ever. I have some I like more than others, but I am an actor myself, I work in this town, I have met or worked with a LOT of the people whose names come up in fandom spaces, and stanning for any of them would just be weird for me? LMAO. Look, actors and celebrities are just people like anyone else, and nobody’s more aware of that than me. There is no such thing as a person who hasn’t or isn’t going to do something I disagree with at some point, and I’m not like....interested in emotionally investing in real people I’m not actually close with to the extent where I’d feel let down or disappointed by their behavior if and when they do something I disagree with.

Obviously, I have spoken up in defense of Posey a great many times over the years. Because being in the TW fandom, there’s no way to avoid being exposed to the stanning and vilifying of the individual actors, and the harassment and demonization Posey’s faced from fandom has been so fucking over the top and beyond the pale (not to mention so clearly racially motivated in a vast majority of instances) that yeah, I’ve called that crap out and will continue to do so. Because it’s bullshit and it actually has nothing to do Posey himself and everything to do with the attitudes and behavior aimed AT him. If you actually READ my goddamn posts, you’ll notice that I don’t defend him from a place of ‘Posey can do no wrong and I love him’, but rather from a place of ‘what the fuck is wrong with you that you think this kind of behavior is okay, especially when its based entirely on a) your hatred of the character he plays and/or b) comments he’s made that have been taken wildly out of context’.

And before anyone feels the urge to Go There, let me remind you that despite my clear and present dislike for S/tiles, I’ve never used that to bash DOB or anything like that, because I have as little interest in using actors as a target for my feelings about their character as I have in stanning for actors. I’ve said like....’I don’t think DOB is as good an actor as his stans make him out to be’, lol. That’s about it, and uh, that’s not bashing, that’s an opinion that doesn’t actually devalue him or his worth as a person, rather simply says....yo, I’m not as impressed with DOB’s acting as the rest of you.

This post is in response to a second anon that follows after that last one I just responded to, passive aggressively lampshading the age gap relationship Posey’s been in and like....no? That’s not going to work with me because I’ve never said nor do I believe that Posey can do no wrong and that I agree with everything he does, its simply that I don’t actually concern myself with the decision making processes of celebrities or actors. DEFENDING him from this toxic fucking fandom’s behavior isn’t due to some innate view of him as a paragon of virtue or anything, and the reason you don’t see me criticizing him for behavior I dislike or disagree with is because there is literally NOTHING I could say that would be more than a drop in the ocean compared to the rampant demonization he gets for any little thing he says or does, so I see zero point in calling attention to anything he might say or do that I’m not a fan of when like, fandom is already all over that shit ten minutes before I even know anything has happened. I’ve got no interest in contributing to the extremely skewed take fandom has when it comes to analyzing anything and everything Posey might have ever done or will ever do that’s right or wrong. And that’s why I’m fully comfortable defending him from gross racist double standards that really have nothing to do with anything he’s actually done other than take umbrage with the fact that he dares exist and call himself the main character.....without harping over every single thing he does that I don’t like.

*Shrugs* Not happy with how I reconcile that for myself, that’s a you problem. It works for me. Now there, I’ve clarified YET AGAIN my stances on this weird obnoxious fandom and its view of the characters and actors. So if you all could just stop with the leading questions and painfully transparent attempts to...idk, trip me up or contradict myself or whatever the fuck it is this kind of passive aggressive pseudo-analytical bullshit is each time it crosses my inbox, that’d be swell. It’s not clever, its not insightful, its not anything I haven’t seen before in this shitshow fandom, its just tired and predictable and BORING. Like how are you not bored of this crap yet? I’m so bored.

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jmenfoot · 7 years

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Since you care about racism on football. What's your opinion on Messi and the racial slurs he said towards Drenthe? Thanks

I don't speak Dutch so it was a bit hard to get backto the source, but here's is what I understand happened.

Royston Drenthe is anow retired Dutch footballer. He was a Real Madrid playerbetween 2007 and 2012, but was on loan at Hércules and Everton from2010 to 2012.

In 2012 he made an interview with the Dutch newspaperHelden. Parts of the interviews were quoted on the Dutch news websiteNu.nl, and then translated by the Mirror, and then quoted by a lot ofarticles in english. So, all I could access was a cropped, translatedversion of what he said (tw racial slur) :

« I played against him [Messi] many times andwe always have problems with each other. » « You knowwhat bothers me so? That tone with which he always says, 'negro,negro'. I understand that 'negro' in South America is very common,but we can not stand it. »

« Mahamadou Diarra, my teammate at Real, couldexplode if 'negro' was aimed at him. The Argentinean Gabriel Heinzeand Gonzalo Higuain said it initially on the training ground, butthey were stopped. » « When Hercule played Barcelona,during the game I had a small altercation with him [Messi]. He gaveme a hand in the match and again said a few times, 'hola negro'. »

I really wish that there was more info on that, andthat sport journalists had bothered investigating instead of quotingthe Mirror's translation and moving on. For exemple, I don'tunderstand what he means by « he gave me a hand ». DidMessi help him ? Maybe to get up after a foul ? But he alsomentions an altercation ?

Still, Drenthe makes some important points : firstthat no mather that if that term is anecdotic in South America, it'sabsolutely not in Europe. Even if he acknowledge that Messi may nothave meant the words in an aggressive way, he's clear that they havean impact anyway. He also points out that it's possible, and easy,for south-americans to realize that and correct their behaviour.

So it makes you wonder why exactly Messi would keepusing that word. He's been in Europe since he was 14, I feel likeit's something that people should have reacted on if he was usingthat word casually. He had black teammates as well, did they reallylet that slide ? Lilian Thuram for instance was playing for Barcelonaduring the events. He's always been very outspoken about racism, inand out of the locker room, so I feel like this is something hewouldn't let slide, but I could be wrong.

This story showcases poor journalism. Most articlesI've seen reuse the same quotes and quote the Mirror as a source, ifthey mention a source at all. I haven't seen any follow-upinvestigation either.

I'd love to read more about this specific issue.Interview Drenthe again and find out more, reach out to black Barçaplayers and la Liga players and ask them about their experience...The event that Drenthe refers to happened in between 2007 and 2011,maybe the Suarez case had an impact on the casual use of that word bysouth-american players ?

#racism #tw racial slur #I'm white and I don't speak Dutch so I might not be the best person to talk about that issue #but maybe people can find more infos?#is there black south americans on Tumblr that would feel comfortable talking about the use of the word ''negro''?#Anonymous

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Its funny how the white liberals and zionists ignored the finsbury park mosque attack and the murder of Nabra Hassenen, but a group of Jewish women aren't allowed to march and you won't shut up about it. When Muslims dies, liberals ignore it but Jews can't join a pride march and the world ends. If a Jewish woman had been murdered coming out of a synagogue, it would be news 24/7.

*I considered not posting this due to my inability to figure out how to tag tw on answered asks but I felt this should be addressed. So if you continue to read: cw long post, cw violence mention, cw murder mention, cw death mention, cw child death mention, cw antisemitism.

Anon, I’m not sure if you are genuinely angry or just trolling me but I wanted to answer you message in case of the former.

Firstly, I don’t like how you grouped White liberals and Zionists together as Zionists can be aligned with any political movement from conservative to progressive. It’s also pretty clear to me that by “Zionist” you meant “Jewish” and Jewish people are not white. I don’t have the time or energy to educate you about Jewish people being an ethnic minority subject to radicalized antisemitism. You can do that yourself or I may reconsider if you ask nicely.

Secondly, I am sorry if you are a Muslim and feel that the murder of Nabra Hassen and the Finsbury mosque attack were ignored. I know that in my social circle and Jewish community, we try very hard to be good allies to our Muslim cousins. If we have let you down, I sincerely apologize. We are all learning and growing but I do not appreciate your aggression toward a fellow marginalized group and toward me personally.

Third, many Jewish people are uncomfortable being called “Jews” by non Jewish people for what should be fairly obvious reasons (hint: antisemitism). Please refrain from doing so, especially if you want to interact with me.

Fourth and perhaps most importantly, Jewish women and Jewish people more generally are regularly subject to hate crimes including violence and murder, most often at Jewish places of worship, community centers and kosher establishments. Unfortunately, this is not addressed in the mainstream media as you believe that it would be.

Again, I ask you to educate yourself on this subject. A good place to start would be recent events in Europe, especially France, where a woman was stabbed at a Kosher restaurant, several people were killed in a bombing of a kosher grocery store, children shot at a Jewish school along with the rabbi and many individuals are regularly assaulted and our synagogues vandalized. But this is also more prevalent in the US than you perceive. If you consult the FBI database you will see that Jewish people are victims of over half the religious and I believe racially motivated hate crimes in the US despite being roughly 3% of the over all population.

In light of the events at the Chicago D*ke March, many LGBT Muslims have shown much appreciated support for LGBT people. I’d like you thank those people publicly here as you have presented me with the opportunity. I hope you will reconsider your position and stop pitting Muslims and Jewish people against each other.

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I'm surprised no one is talking about Dhar Mann's "Landscapers accused of stealing lemons" video. That video is chock full of anti Hispanic racism. Firstly, the Hispanic people are portrayed as farmers and land laborers. Secndly they steal lemons by taking them without permission. Thirdly (and this is the worst part), in the end, Dhar Mann himself appears and they act like he is their best friend/ a belovolent employer. earlier the video showed that they were victims of racism by someone else, so Dhar Mann appearing in the last act made it come off like he was saying "look guys! I, Dhar Mann, treat these Mexican gardeners nicely! Look at how good I am! I'm such a good person for doing the bare minimum and not being racist! I am using this person's racism to make myself look good!" Like seriously, can we get a serious video about racism without Dhar the narcissist praising himself

Honestly, I didn't know he made a video about landscapers specifically (I will watch it), but I do notice a pattern when he's putting Hispanic and Latino people in his videos.

He either has them be the poor, helpless victims (like in that video, for example), absolutely deplorable people (like in COUNTLESS videos, one of the biggest examples being the video about a rich Latina woman being nasty to her maid who has OCD), or the super perfect protagonists who can do no wrong.

You can't stop racism by just being nice to BIPOC and AAPI. That's the bare minimum, like you said. You can help combat racism by:

listening to BIPOC and AAPI

QUIT FUCKING SAYING SLURS YOU CAN'T RECLAIM, FOR FUCK'S SAKE

tackling the discrimination they still face (i.e., medical discrimination, housing discrimination, keeping their own land, etc.)

support businesses owned by BIPOC and AAPI

support BIPOC and AAPI creators

read up on their history that they rarely teach you in school if at all

donate to charities that directly help BIPOC and AAPI

give harsher punishments to people who commit hate crimes against BIPOC and AAPI

HOLD RACIST, XENOPHOBIC POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR KILLING BIPOC AND AAPI

educate your family and friends about racism towards BIPOC and AAPI

learning about their cultures

protest for their rights (if you're able to)

sign petitions to help BIPOC and AAPI

That's all I can think of at the moment, but this ain't an exhaustive list. Because simply not judging a book by its cover isn't gonna cut it.

Dhar Mann is Indian. He's Southeast Asian. He should know better. He needs to educate himself more about the horrors of racism that BIPOC and AAPI face every day.

His videos about racism don't help educate people about racism. His videos that have NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM, yet have racial aggression and stereotypes sprinkled into it because he wants to be "qUiRkY", are insulting, to put it lightly.

I'm not saying that Dhar Mann CAN'T talk about racism or anything like that. That's not what this is about. He should quit trying to act like he knows everything about the shit he puts in his videos.

Dhar Mann's xenophobic too? I'm asking because of the stereotypical jobs he tends to put Hispanic and Latino people in, like landscaping or gardening.

Like, if he is, well, I can't say I'm surprised.

Thank you for sending this in!

#anon #answered #tw dhar mann #dhar mann talk #tw racism #tw racial aggression mention #tw racial violence mention #tw xenophobia mention #dhar mann will live to regret his decision to make these fucked up cringe videos #dhar mann will live to regret his decision uwu #dhar mann is a piece of human garbage #please stop supporting dhar mann #dhar mann #anti dhar mann #dhar mann is a cringe ass nae nae baby

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