#sysmedsaresexist

[justanothersyscourse]

I think this blog is blocked by fewer people that have heard the rumors and lies going around. I hope you'll read this. There are three sides to every story-- yours, theirs, and the truth.

I deserve to get my side out there so people can make informed decisions about who to follow or block, or whatever it is you need to do. It's okay not to support me, but do it for the right reasons.

I also run sysmedsaresexist, and I'm currently being accused of harassing a minor and sending random ass asks left, right and center.

Listen, if you got an ask where the person didn't say, "this is SAS," it's not from me. I HATE asks. On the rare occasion that I send them, I always tell people who I am. I am well aware that I'm a controversial figure. I want people to know who they're interacting with when I talk to them. I am old. It's important that I'm honest with the people I interact with. A lot of people really stepped up to support me, but I would like people to stop. Unfortunately, it's doing more harm than good.

With every one of these messages people send in support of me, the rumors get worse.

I want to defend myself, but I don't know how.

Send a vent to a vent blog that just actively lied about me? They won't post it. (They didn't, I just checked)

So I'll post it myself. You can make your own decision. All posts I've made on the topic are linked here (it's 5, compared to the DOZENS AEV has posted)

This will be my last post on the topic, and I hope that the people spreading these rumors will leave me alone. You've done more damage and harm to me than you know, and without any remorse or apology.

Ask sent to @anti-endo-haven :

I'm SAS and I'm so hurt.

I have not sent ANY anons to AEV, at all, at any point. I have not ASKED anyone to help me in this,

I made 5 posts. They have made about 50 at this point, all cruel.

The first was to AEV on their first post, which was NOT as rude as people say. I said, look webmd and mayo clinic isn't going to hold up to some of the articles that endos are throwing at us. Try some of these. I said, look, you're going to get really tired of hearing the same endo arguments. Here's some points you can throw back at them.

NOT TO MENTION THE MISINFORMATION IN THE POST. Dissociation is only trauma based? Incorrect. Maybe you should reconsider whether you're ready to be in these conversations.

That response was hidden.

The second post, I was correcting an endo that DID wasn't a trauma disorder. I tagged AEV and said, "see, you can be nice about corrections, and these are the kind of sources you should use."

I was blocked.

THIS IS WHEN I CHANGED LABELS. I was so disappointed in the community that I said fuck that, that's not what I want to be, I don't support this behavior. That's another person that AEV turned pro endo. Good job.

Then I saw the anon saying I was an endo. I used my other blog to POLITELY say, "This isn't true, please stop posting about me like this." This post is still on JAS, I didn't delete it like people are claiming

The fourth post was me making my own public post saying, "this child is throwing a tantrum over corrections. Now l'm pissed and I have to make my own public post so people don't believe those lies." This was the first rude post. I called AEV a blemish, and here's why.

I just made a MASSIVE post about dissociation that is actively being spread within the endo community now. All because I changed my label. I don't care if you all want to block me, but don't pretend that you're all doing anything to help by making bad resources for an audience that already believes the same stuff (all these new antis). Now all the new ones are spreading the same bad sources that don't hold up, and we all (yes, you, me, them, the next CDD system in line) look bad for it.

AEV couldn't provide a single source that said DID WAS trauma based, only "usually" trauma based. AEV actually made antis TURN PRO ENDO, because they used so many sources that said "usually". I offered him sources that said it WAS trauma based.

I'm not kidding, you can find the people that changed sides on sophieinwonderland's blog. This is what happened. I don't need to be polite as pie to people inadvertently harming the CDD community, but I certainly wasn't rude about it

My final post, the fifth post, on the subject was the sad one. "My main was leaked." There are people that stalk my blogs. They send me threats and long asks about the things they'd do to me if they found me. When sophie first came to tumblr, I'd get asks about what people wanted ghost to do to me. In the past, every time a new doxxer comes out of their gross hole, I start getting doxxing threats. l've had people get close to my area.

My main being released means those people are one step closer to actually finding me. It means I'm now getting these kinds of messages in my only safe space.

And the anon who sent my main admitted it was done maliciously. We had a falling out like two years ago, because their asks were getting creepy. When I APOLOGIZED TO THEM for ever hurting them because of my own avoidance issues, and told them that on this post, their response was, "well I enjoyed sending them so fuck you." If I ever find that post deleted, I've got a screenshot. You were NOT a minor at the time, you're an adult.

... Nice, really mature. You're definitely safe for minors.

Hey, also, minors, if an adult you just met online calls you "my kiddo", don't respond with an ovo face. Run.

Adults, if you call a minor your kiddo and they're like, owo really, I'm your kiddo? Fucking run.

Anyways.

I haven't said anything since. What can say. My main is out and I'm getting threats on it. Currently. Not "in the future," like the person said. It's happening NOW.

What do all you people want from me? I AM trying to leave you all alone. Stop saying such terrible things about me, godDAMN. I am not harassing minors. I don't want to harass anyone.

WHAT DID I ACTUALLY DO WRONG? I don't understand.

You're not the good guys you think you all are.

Not anymore.

I don't know that you ever were.

#syscourse #anti endo #anti endogenic #endos dni #<<< all for reach #sysmedsaresexist #adults being creepy to minors and it's not me

[gipzisays209]

I know this is late. Very, very late... But I still want to say this.

@sysmedsaresexist, I just want to congratulate you on figuring yourself and your views out, even if they're quite different than where you started out. I'd like to congratulate you on admitting your mistakes, reconciling with burned bridges and starting to rebuild them. It takes... a very dedicated kind of person to admit those things, and we'd like to congratulate you on having the strength to come forward with those publicly.

And something you said resonated:

"I'm in a weird spot, where I'm blocked by so much of the pro/endo community that I have nothing to join, and the anti endo community, who I still wholeheartedly support, continues to leave me for -checks smudged writing on hand- being too nice??"

And you know what?

I know exactly how that feels.

I'm extremely abrasive myself. I don't care when it comes down to people and their feelings, I sling insults and (yes, sometimes) I take the immature route. I honestly don't know who even supports this blog anymore, and maybe that's a good thing.

But from one bastardized blog to another, I'm glad you're able to admit your faults. And I want you to know:

As long as you are able to admit your faults and mistakes, I don't see any reason why we as a community shouldn't offer you a second chance.

So, SAS, congratulations for having strength, and I hope this strength serves you well. Because strength like that is definitely something to be admired.

#syscourse #pro endo #pro endogenic #SAS #Sysmedsaresexist #Self work like that takes some serious dedication #So massive kudos to you

[yourfaveissecretlysas]

SysmedsAreSexist Flag

The SysmedsAreSexist Flag

This is a flag to indicate that a user is secretly SysmedsAreSexist. Color meanings are below the cut. Coined by @/me.

Yellow (#FEF5D1): The light that SysmedsAreSexist sheds on those who are misinformed.

Turquoise (#23ACB4): The breath of fresh air from the Sysmed Oxygen Machine.

Gray (#5E5A56): The darkness of scrolling the worst syscourse has to offer to provide screenshots.

Pink (#FFB7AC): The barely restrained rage held within one system.

#syscourse #flag #flag coining #tw syscourse #sysmedsaresexist #your fave is

[kiruliom]

You don't need to reply to this, I just wanted to reach out and thank you

No one is ever that nice when they reply to me?? ;__; OMG thank you, faith in humanity actually restored

I hit a point where replies to me were just always so angry that I was just being angry back at people

My post to you was yet another attempt to step into the conversation with kindness, and your response means just... so much to me.

Thank you for being kind and taking the time to read my post ❤️ many don't, and it means more than you could ever know.

I hope you have an amazing day

-sysmedsaresexist

I believe everyone deserves kindness until proven otherwise, and Im glad it helped you. thank you again for correcting me difnsnnfksnf

also please make sure to take a break from discourse (of any kind) if you believe its affecting you negatively, as it can be addictive in the worst way. I dont know if you already do or not but reminders can be nice sometimes anyway. thanks for being kind back to me <:D I really appreciate it

#kirus asks #sysmedsaresexist #syscourse #tagging so people who have it blocked dont have to see it jfbfjdg

[fluffyendovents]

!(Pro)endo Blacklist!

- Disclaimer: I do not condone harassment. This is only for awareness and for anyone who wants to block these blogs -

"the-kiarah-organisation" is a pro endo. They actively show hate towards actual systems and anti endos. They also encourage blocking and reporting anti endos.

"king-system" is a self-proclaimed pro endo. They also claim to be bipolargenic and autigenic. I've also found some fetishist content from their page.

"sophieinwonderland" a blog that claims to be a tulpa. They 'prove' that nontraumagenic systems exist and encourage it.

"justanothersyscourse" is pretty iffy, they claim to try "dispel" myths and misconceptions about DID/OSDD and their relation to "endo systems" but all you can see on their blog is them reblogging hate towards anti endos.

"sysmedsaresexist" They claim to be pro syscourse conversion and anti misinformation but only ever reblog and post pro endo stuff and hate on anti endos.

"truffhollwell" is a big one that comes up. They've probably been mentioned already if you've asked other people, but they've been known to harass anti endos.

"syscourse101" is a very controversial blog. They actively hate traumagenic systems and make fights all the time about it. They also possibly support sophieinwonderland.

"pach1-pach1" is rather questionable and kinda disgusting. They actively support fetishist content, transmeds, and more. And while they say they don't like endos. They have a record of harrasing anti endos.

"all-for-the-transids" is a bad blog. They are radqueer and transplural. They do 'build a alter' and are very much endo/pro endo.

-Shoutouts/Credits! Thanks for helping me out!-

@system-hottakes, along with all the others that helped!

#endos dni #anti endo #system #did osdd #did system #endos fuck off #did #osddid #plural #actually did #this is for a very specific audience #awareness post #do not harass #you can reblog if you want

[the-alarm-system]

Anti endos reacting to sysmedsaresexist’s post is killing me because they’re all just saying “wow can’t believe they changed bc a licensed doctor that pioneered DID research in the 80s and studied trauma and dissociation told them that endos are chill, that is so stupid of them to just believe someone like that”

#syscourse #tw syscourse #pro endo #fuck anti endos

[anti-lies]

Attention: After Talking to Another Real System, I've Come to Believe That the Endo Community is Being Infiltrated and Controlled by CIA Operatives

I need everyone to be aware and be vigilant because the threat is real. The endogenic community was invented to divide us and keep us distracted.

Having combed over several big potential CIA operatives, I've narrowed the field down to four possibilities. Remember that any or all of these could be CIA operatives, but I'm certain at least one has to be.

Possible CIA plants

@guardianssystem: This system claims to be a pro-endo "traumagenic" system as a way to give themselves authority. They have activity across multiple websites including TikTok and X. They're notable for compiling this document of "sources" to prove endos exist. This document is everywhere. It has suspiciously become the main compilation of endo sources that they love to link to at every turn.

@cambriancrew: They're a tulpa "system" who runs r/tulpas. For anyone who doesn't know, "tulpamancy" is essentially a form of brainwashing. Tulpamancers say they can change a person's brain to give them headmates, and they've convinced multiple "doctors" to back them. All of this sounds like MK Ultra stuff. Cambrian Crew, besides being an outspoken endo, appears to be well connected, and used those connections to help organize an AMA on r/tulpas. In this AMA, their CIA-paid doctors claimed to have conducted brain scans on tulpamancers that showed changes in brain activity when their tulpas were possessing limbs.

@sysmedsaresexist: A nefarious saboteur, Sysmedsaresexist posed as a prominent anti-endo voice for YEARS, building up a massive anti endo following on this site. Between their SysmedsAreSexist and JustAnotherSyscourse blogs, they practically single-handedly ran the "#shit endos say" tag dedicated to mocking endos. But then all of a sudden, they turn? And like CambrianCrew, SysmedsAreSexist appears to have a close relationship to "doctors," posting a screenshot of an email from Colin Ross, an expert in DID, that appears to support the existence of endogenic systems. All of this looks like a years-long psyop to gain people's trust and convert them.

@sophieinwonderland: Finally, that brings us to Sophie, another tulpa "system." She also has her own page filled with endo "sources" though not as detailed or widely disseminated as Guardians'. The more I looked into this one, the more disturbed I became. Sophie is, as far as I can tell, the system who started "The Future is Plural," the mass movement which we all know seeks to traumatize children en masse and give them dissociative disorders. She also openly brags about teaching people methods to dissociate and hallucinate, says that she believes she can rewire people's brains, and cheerfully is arguing in favor of propaganda.

Please, whatever you do, do not engage with these people. Not only to avoid harassing them, but because if they are indeed CIA operatives, it may not be safe to do so directly. I may be putting myself at risk just by talking about this aloud, and I believe they're already trying to discredit me, but I feel someone has to talk about this.

Community input in finding the spies is incredibly important.

Knowing all of the facts, I'd like to know who you all think is most likely a CIA operative.

#syscourse #anti endogenic #anti endo #fuck endos #endos fuck off #cia #mk ultra #brainwashing #undercover #endos do not interact #endos dni #endos not for you #aemogai #anti endo mogai

[circular-bircular]

you don't have to answer this if you don't want, but I would love to hear your thoughts on that post going around with whether endos have reason to use words like protector and persecutor. (the answer seems pretty obvious to me but I would love to hear your opinion)

Let me just — (saves as draft so I don’t lose my progress on writing this for a third time)

God, I wish I could find the image I was looking for, because it just. Perfectly describes what my thoughts are. I hope my description does it justice, but I know it doesn’t.

There was a chart I recall seeing. On one side, it explained the trauma a person experienced, and the role, and on the other side, it explained what that looks like in a system.

For example: Jane is treated as worthless and weak (protector) —> Kyle is strong and valuable to protect Jane from others.

( @sysmedsaresexist I could’ve sworn you posted it, but I can’t find it anywhere???)

Regardless. I think… at the end of the day, I’m fine with endogenic systems using those terms. The communities grew together, for better or for worse, and with that comes shared language. I just also don’t think all Endogenic systems are using those terms quite correctly, or understand the connotations of labeling themselves with those terms.

For instance, I’ve seen endogenic systems (ones who claimed to have no trauma whatsoever, mind you) who said they had persecutors “because Headmate Y is mean to us.” That’s not what a persecutor is.

I worry that this shared language makes the impact of these terms less.

But at the end of the day, I’m a bit more pressed about my lived experiences than I am about what someone else is doing.

#syscourse #not sure if this makes much sense #I haven’t commented on that discourse because as always my feelings are pretty nuanced

[thestarpletsystem]

{I'm going to post this as it's own thing as well, since I'm pretty proud of it. This is in response to "The Future is Plural" and those who respond with The Future is Singlet. This entire thing is aimed at anti-endos, and I think is an important read for them. I also wanted it to reach my normal audiance as well, since a lot of you probably have some of the tags I tagged the original as blocked.}

"The future is singlet" goes back to what I reblogged earlier, which I doubt y’all would see since it’s a pro-endo post. Nobody is asking for there to be more abused kids. If they are, they probably aren’t speaking in good faith on this argument or they have something else they need to work through.

Let’s say that we know, 100% for a fact, the only way to be a system is through trauma. There is still use for you in that phrase. The point of “the future is plural” is not what it says on the tin, as you've shown. We’re not asking for there to be more systems, if we’re thinking strictly in your terms. We’re asking for it to be believed; for it to be taken seriously. We want it to be normalized in the way where if someone says “hey I’m plural” we believe them. We want there to be more understanding and less hate. We want to ensure that those ahead of us don’t have to face what we have, and that what those before us have done was not in vain.

You know why it’s not okay for clinicians to abuse their patients with DID? It’s not because they woke up one day and decided “maybe we shouldn’t be treating our patients like this.” It’s because activists before us did their job. Back in the ‘80s there were so many fucked up practices being done to those with DID, named MPD at that time. Which I must include because it is pertinent to the history of our disorder. Law suits have been brought to court and have been won over these practices. Now, while we are quite a bit better in terms of clinicians that specialize in DID, we aren’t in terms of the general population. They may still believe we are voilent and scary. They may still believe that it’s not a real disorder. They may still believe that it’s just like what they see on TV. Which, as everyone here knows, it isn’t.

We want to make sure they understand that we are humans, too. While we may be many, we aren’t terrible or lying or any number of things others who have no experience with DID think. We, as a community, deserve better. We deserve to be believed. We deserve to be treated with respect and dignity.

And so, I bring it back to one of my first points. Even if we were arguing for there to be more systems, it’s not in the way you desperately want to believe. It’s not begging for more traumatized children. It’s not through pain and suffering. Its a call for pride on all sides. It’s also recognition of the systems that just happen, it’s to celebrate the beauty of those who found their plurality and aren’t traumatized like you or I. You can believe that systems and dissociation ONLY form from trauma, but you wouldn’t be right. To the end where even Dr. Collin A. Ross, one of, if not THE leading researcher in the field, outright states that there are those out there who have been diagnosed with DID and who struggle with dissociation who have no trauma history. He himself has said that there are even people who are multiple that would not fit the criteria or don’t have the difficulty that those with DID must to experience for it to be the disorder it is. (Thanks sysmedsaresexist!)

If you won’t listen to those who experience endogenic plurality, if you won’t listen to those who have done research and have still come to this conclusion, if you won’t listen to those leading in the field of trauma and dissociation, then who will you listen to? How will you be able to make sure you’re not spreading the same misinformation and hate that the phrase “The future is plural” is a desperate plea to combat? How are you better than the endogenic systems you want to demonize so badly?

#syscourse #endo safe #actually did #did osdd #plural community #plural stuff #plural system #did system #pluralgang #traumagenic system #actually plural #did blog #did alter #osddid #dissociative alters #actually dissociative #dissociative identities #dissociation #dissociative identity disorder #pro endogenic #pro endo #endo friendly #endogenic system #plural #sysblr #system #traumagenic #actually traumagenic #endogenic safe #didblr

[sophieinwonderland]

Let's talk about change

Despite what some might want to think, human beings aren't static. We're constantly changing and growing. Some of this change can be for the better. Some can be for the worse. But who you are today won't necessarily be who you are 5 years from now.

I've said a lot about anti-endos. But one thing I won't say is that they can't change or they're irredeemable because I've seen plenty of people who have learned and grown with time.

And I think it’s important to be open to those who show a willingness to change and be better.

Recently, @sysmedsaresexist messaged me asking me to ask my followers to unblock them since they've been burning bridges on the others side recently (and what a glorious blaze it's been!🔥🔥🔥) and still want some community left for them.

And there are no doubt hurt feelings involved and I won't ask anyone to do anything they aren't comfortable with. But I have seen SAS grow over the years and I'm someone who believes in second chances, and they seem genuine to me. So I'm personally willing to give them a chance and put the past behind us, and hope others can too. 💖

#syscourse #pro endogenic #pro endo

[livseses]

Oopsies! We didn't manage to get our thoughts written up before this post went quiet.

@sysmedsaresexist I hope it's okay to tag you on this, if not, we'll go ahead and delete (feel free to DM us)

We wanted to thank y'all for taking the time to indulge our curiosity. We really appreciated it! Genuinely.

We started to get defensive about endogenic communities with Signal and Quill, but

they don’t speak their personal experiences as if they’re gospel truth for all systems

Uh... yeah. We needed to do that. We've had wonderful experiences from plural spaces and bad ones from CDD spaces. But, that's our experience. It'd be shitty of us to get all confrontational and try to tell y'all how to feel about your experiences with those spaces.

And I think that we generally agree on a whole hell of a lot. Some of that defensiveness came from the just ridiculousness of universalizing. Like, we personally find soulbonding and tulpamancy stuff to be really helpful. We'll share that fact and recommend it when asked, but saying that every system needs to do these things to improve their system is absurd! It seems so obviously absurd to us that it felt hyperbolic. But like, that's us trying to speak our personal experiences as gospel truth.

We're going to be a bit more careful with sharing the things that help us. We already do it for how DBT helps us, CBT hurts us, and why, for instance. Or the limitations we've encountered with EMDR. If tulpamancy is another kind of therapy for us, well, we should be more cognizant of those pros and cons.

Really liked Robo's answer (feel free to DM us if you wanna chat more in depth)! We could go on about some of our speculating about plurality, trauma, and CDDs. We'll save that for another time though :D

A phrasing Robo used though really sticks out:

"endogenic CDDs" are a completely separate concept from "endogenic systems with CDDs."

This bit of nuance I think gets lost in the mix often enough. And it leads to a lot of the confusion, misinfo, and hostility. We've seen a lot of the "welllll technically" kind of counter hypotheticals brought up. While we're inclined agree with those, it's a bit of nuance that can really muddy the water.

Maybe to build on what Robo said about it never being clear cut and easy to understand: Aspects of a person/system's experience aren't always separable into neat categories. Maybe one person feels that some trait or behavior they have comes from their performance of gender, and another says the exact same things come from their neurotype. Our ADHD messes with our memory and so does our DID. From the inside, at the internal experience level, it's hard, if not impossible, to fully separate them.

And Dude, we're really glad you have these mods to support you, and really glad to see your attitude of self-determination. We love to see it and hope more people can adopt it.

I've posted from the beginning about how a lot of things that endogenic systems talked about were actually really normal in DID systems. [...] it's unfortunate that sometimes this confuses systems that are still learning.

This is kinda why we asked this question, or maybe why that question is on our mind a lot in conversations about plurality. We flip flopped a lot after our syscovery as to how we viewed ourselves. Folks saying that the two are so utterly different that there's zero overlap. Folks saying that the things you mentioned can't ever happen in CDD systems, and in turn, that we should keep out of CDD spaces.

(We personally have some hesitancy on the reliance of "hard" tests for mental health stuff. Something about a concern that those tests will have false negatives. But we can talk about that more elsewhere if you're interested in continuing that conversation.)

But thank you for taking the time to answer this ask regardless. We really appreciate it, and we hope others do too. We hope that information gets out there and more folk can balance that attitude of self-determination with understanding their own experiences aren't universal.

(Again, if you'd rather not have this post around, let us know and we'll remove it)

#faye rambles #system stuff #tw mild syscourse

[tomblr-man]

Hello! I hope you don't mind this ask, you're just the first pro-endo sys I've found that has given reliable sources as proof of non-traumagenic systems existing. I saw a link to an article but mobile tumblr kinda sucks and I can't find more in your posts, would you mind giving me some? (Totally okay if not, I understand /gen)

As someone with self-diagnosed OSDD1b, I was immediately inserted in anti-endo spaces and ngl, didn't even try interacting with endos. You're making me think I and the people who used to be around me were wrong and that I should reconsider many things. So thanks!

Hi! This is actually incredibly humbling to us. We actually thought this was sent to our main and had a good laugh when we realized it was to our shitposting blog lmfao so I'm glad this blog is at least doing some good!

Anyways, yes! I'm not sure which sources you saw me share so let me just share the ones I already have on hand.

There's this one that's pinned to @korya-elana's blog which I believe is the largest and most recent study: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/cpp.2910?fbclid=PAAaYA2EcZAxCD7cDTUWhV93l1pCsh9ovJMddm5oZ8_V1-PQ7pjum3K4AxhEo

There this post by @guardianssystem which is just an incredible wealth of resources about endogenic recognition (although disclaimer, we have not been through all of them yet): https://www.tumblr.com/guardianssystem/732772365744979968?source=share

And then there's this post by @sysmedsaresexist, who recently turned away from the anti-endo label and they're just generally a really excellent resource for debunking myths and misinformation in syscourse as a whole: https://www.tumblr.com/sysmedsaresexist/750286600085372928/excuse-me-what-the-actual-fuck-did-you-just?source=share

Thank you very much for being so willing to consider another viewpoint! This is exactly what syscourse is lacking right now and it's really encouraging to see that some people are still so open minded and curious to learn.

#syscourse #pro endo #anti endo #endo neutral #science #resources #endogenic resources #serious post #asks #answered #pluralgang

[antiendovents]

pretty sure SAS is Sysmedsaresexist, i used to follow them but then they started posting endo neutral stuff and then pro endo stuff

Oh, I don't really like that person ngl. They advocated for non disordered systems as far as I'm aware and harassed us on our anti misinformation blog all because we said that you cannot be a system without DID or something like that. Not exactly feeling bad for them anymore,, I guess I hope they grow out of it or something?? I don't know. If they're willing to harass people I'm not exactly inclined to feel anything for them

#anti endo #endos dni #did #did system #plural #system #actually did #alters #endos fuck off #did osdd #This is a very opinionated post #Because I'm very pissed off :p

[seillean-sys]

Image 1 ID: a screenshot of a tumblr post, it is a bulleted list titled “DSM DID,” and the list is as follows: Two or more distinct personality states that can, and do, take control (switch); Alternation between distinct personality states is not always associated with amnesia, though it's usually and typically present at some point during the course of the disorder (ie, for childhood events), but not always (the weight of the amnesia criteria will depend on where you're being diagnosed-- Europe and the US evaluate the amnesia differently). For the most part, amnesia of some kind is required, though memories can be found and a diagnosis of DID will remain; Intrusion, or non possessive form, is common, in addition to switching; There isn't a dominant personality. End image 1 ID.

Image 2 ID: a screenshot of the same post now listing “DSM OSDD1-A,” reading: Indistinct alters; Mainly presents as intrusions; Switching is not common. There may be occasional, limited and transient episodes in which an indistinct personality state assumes executive control to engage in circumscribed behaviours (e.g., in response to extreme emotional states or during episodes of self-harm or the reenactment of traumatic memories); Amnesia is extremely common for periods of both intrusion and during the infrequent switching (functionally, it's required); Dominant personality. End image 2 ID.

Image 3 ID: A list titled “DSM OSDD1-b,” reading: Two or more distinct personality states that can, and do, take control (switch); Dissociation from emotion is the only type of amnesia experienced ("emotional amnesia", which is a dumb term and I hate it); There is no dominant personality, though it's fairly common for switching to happen infrequently; Intrusion is also common. End final image ID.

In the interest of transparency because that post is very long heres the parts I’m going to be addressing, and because I don’t want to vague anyone this is @sysmedsaresexist’s post. I am not trying to be rude and will endeavor to remain respectful throughout this post.

Otherwise specified dissociative disorder has 4 subtypes in the DSM. The only one that officially entails alters is OSDD type 1 (though there is discussion to be had about type 2 and the circumstances under which the identity disturbances happen, but that’s for another post). The DSM V does not list specific traits or symptoms as diagnostic criteria for any particular OSDD subtype, and this is because OSDD as a whole is diagnosed when someone presents with some, but not the required number, of the symptoms of other dissociative disorders. In the case of type one, the disorder that a given person is meeting some of the requirements for is dissociative identity disorder. The description of OSDD-1, verbatim, is “Chronic and recurrent syndromes of mixed dissociative symptoms: This category includes identity disturbance associated with less-than-marked discontinuities in sense of self and agency, or alterations of identity or episodes of possession in an individual who reports no dissociative amnesia” (APA 2013, 300.15). That’s it. The very next sentence discusses OSDD-2 in about the same amount of text. There are no listed attributes of any subtype of OSDD, so listing common characteristics and prefacing them with “DSM OSDD-1a/b” is not only disingenuous, it’s incorrect. Which leads into my next point.

The separation between 1a and 1b in terms of OSDD-1 is entirely community based. I am not saying that’s a bad thing; it’s important for people to find others with similar experiences and I don’t deny that pwOSDD-1 who identify themselves as 1a have far less community online than those with 1b. That being said, if I and a person with 1a each went to the same therapist, presented our symptoms, and received a diagnosis, both would read OSDD type 1 (or, more likely: other specified dissociative disorder, Chronic and recurrent syndromes of mixed dissociative symptoms). Same disorder, different presentations.

In addition to the listing of symptoms being disingenuous, the nature of the symptoms listed is as well; switching is not mentioned in the page of OSDD. Not once. Perhaps op is noting trends, which fair enough, and I would generally agree with said trends (though of course there are exceptions). However, they are not designated symptoms of OSDD type 1 because the symptoms are already previously listed under the dissociative identity disorder page. Other specified diagnoses are given for most every category in the DSM-V: Other specified feeding and eating disorder; other specified somatic symptom and related disorder; other specified ADHD, tic disorder, neurodevelopmental disorder, anxiety disorder, truly almost every categorization of disorders has an other specified and/or unspecified diagnosis.

My last sort of gripe with this post is the disdain for the phrase “emotional amnesia.” I find that that phrase is quite accurate to the experience of objectively remembering an event, but experiencing the emotions as if they happened to someone else. What phrase might you propose instead? /gq

#osdd #osdd alter #osdd system #osdd community #did osdd #did #did alter #actually did #actually dissociative #caí.txt #syscourse

[fluffyendovents]

It's super funny to see sysmedsaresexist/ justanothersyscoure getting taken down. They're emotionally abusive and weirdly possessive and it's great that their scrappy attitude is finally coming to light.

I'm glad that you appreciate it. I personally go through all the blogs I put on my blacklist and ask for others' opinions. And many seemed happy that I had my eye on them. ^^

#endos dni #anti endo #system #did osdd #did system #endos fuck off #did #osddid #plural #actually did

[sysmedsaresexist]

[Puts on safari hat]

Welcome to the SysmedsareSexist Syscourse Safari. Now we have a beaut today, real wonder of nature, this ugly little beastie right here.

First, we see this tumblr pro-endo in their natural habitat — namely, every tag imaginable. It’s the ideal way for them to spread their pheromones far and wide in an effort to attract as much attention as possible. Now, this is meant to attract mutuals and agreement as much as predators — those predators being anyone they disagree with. Any attention is good attention for this species of ableist pro-endo.

Now, to further this spread, the ableist pro-endo has used some very interesting tactics. First, they flopped like a dead fish into the syscourse tag with a bunch of hyperbole; exaggerating DID systems reactions and misery. This is a sure fire way to stir up anger, as it’s mocking people with severe childhood trauma for being upset with their lives. Then, the ableist pro-endo suggests they’re wrong about their systemhood, which angers the pro-endo DID systems who are against fakeclaiming and assuming things about other people’s systems. This also comes with the bonus trait, unique to some pro-endo ableists, of spreading massive amounts of easily debunked misinformation about a disorder! Really talented stuff here today. Lastly, they blame all of this on anti-endos, just to be sure they’ve sprayed everywhere they can.

So they’ve really worked to maximize their engagement. It’s certainly going to get lots of people swooping in, so they did something (and this part is really clever here) — they sprayed a noxious gas of “I’m one of you” at everyone. See, they said, “We have dissociation,” as a sort of area-of-affect spray that poisons everyone who comes into contact with them in any critical way. All those who (rightfully) call out this bad behavior is subject to the You’reAbleistToMe virus, which is hell to sit and wait out, let me tell you.

Only way to combat this particular beastie? Live and let die! Thankfully, these ableist pro-endos have a very short life-span, so long as they’re starved of that engagement they’re seeking. Look out for these invasive species out there, folks, and be sure to wear a gas mask on these safaris! Hoowee, do these beasts STINK!

That’s all for today’s episode of Syscourse Safari. Tune in next time for when I finally wrastle that gator.

#syscourse #mod quill #syscourse Safari #ableism for the sake of activism is just ableism with a fresh coat of paint