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aisphotostuff · 14 days
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Kent's High Weald AONB... by Adam Swaine Via Flickr: Stunning countryside and beautiful fields of yellow & green as you drive towards Chiddingstone Village
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weepingfoxfury · 5 days
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The man on the radio is definitely a chocolate chobbling consumer, constantly and abley aided and abetted by his audience. 'Dig a little deeper, when the answer's hard to find' sings The Butterfly Graveyard. Not the man on the radio's usual fare, more Ibiza than Emerald Isle. The chef on the radio is imminent. Pesto stuffed chicken breast and tiramisu are today's mouth waterers.
The garish yellow from next door's fields has eased it's way into the garden. Scarily coloured en masse, slightly less offensive in close up. Perhaps this usurper is in some way responsible for the behemoth bee that entered the kitchen yesterday afternoon. Poisonous pesticides mean mobile hives are being used. Oh the irony of farmers fighting for their right to continue with carcinogens. I wonder how the local bees feel about these nomadic pollinators.
A few years ago I found the largest and bluest of bees ... briefly in my hand before being placed among flowers ... a beauty to behold.
"And pray, who are you?" ... Said the violet blue ... To the bee, with surprise ... At his wonderful size, In her eye-glass of dew.
"I, Madam", quoth he, ... "Am a publican bee, ... Collecting the tax ... On honey and wax. ... Have you nothing for me?"
John B Tabb
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ladyloveandjustice · 5 days
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I mean that's a nice epiphany and all, but I think "what the fuck I tried to rape someone what the fuck is wrong with me" might be the one you want to have first.
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stackslip · 1 year
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i know ango is the fandom fave for obvious reasons--sad boy who goes through trauma and is good at what he does etc--but i do find it sad (if not unexpected) how said fandom tends to justify and woobify his actions, especially vs hana, because he IS an incredible character because of how's he both a victim and perpetuator of the way he grew up. he's irreparably traumatized by the whole experience, considers himself different from his teachers--and yet he's what they wanted him to be. he becomes the bona fide leader of summer a, as everyone expected, and while he condemned umami's sexual harassment of the girls he too objectifies them as sees them as vessels of his own feelings and as future mothers for humanity. his hatred for kaname and his old teachers gets transferred onto hana so that he feels justified in attempting to rape her as a way to punish her for being alive while shigeru was murdered. but he also sees koburi as His Possession, she's his childhood friend but she's also a Vulnerable Girl who should be listening to him and that's his to protect, and he expects to eventually get with ayu to produce the new generation of humans and of japan. he's been through utter hell and he hates what's been done to him but he's unable to break out of the fascist beliefs he's been raised with that and that were used to destroy him and others he loved! he's a walking tragedy and cautionary tale
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k-i-l-l-e-r-b-e-e-6-9 · 7 months
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𝔉𝔩𝔢𝔰𝔥𝔤𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔡 - ℌ𝔞𝔱𝔯𝔢𝔡 𝔈𝔪𝔟𝔬𝔡𝔦𝔢𝔡
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henbased · 1 year
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main tags stop calling joseph a rapist so openly challenge
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farcry-confessions · 2 years
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"I really don't understand the lust and hype surrounding the seed family. The only one I feel sort of bad for is Faith, but that's like. Very sparingly. The only "redeeming" factor about them all is they're hot. That's it. they are not remorseful at all about all of the people killed, drugged, r*ped, and kidnapped under their authority and by their own hand. Maybe I could get over it if it wasn't a cult in modern-day America."
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aisphotostuff · 21 days
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Rural Landscape 0n Kent Weald.. by Adam Swaine Via Flickr: Lovely rural scenic view on the Kent Weald AONB..
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tiecho · 2 months
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You're in the mall by yourself, I'm following from a distance. You don't know me, not yet anyways... as you walk from store to store you keep seeing me, and I'm always watching. Then it slowly turns into an accidental bump, then a small grope in the aisle, to my hand going completely under your shirt and pinching your nipples as you are trying to shop. You are far too afraid to say anything so you let it happen and then leave to another store trying to lose me in the crowd. I let you think they lost me, disappear for a half hour, following you much more discretely now. I let you shop and grab some cute clothes to go try on. Then as you are going into the changing booth I grab you and drag you into one with me, my hand wrapped around your throat so you cant make a noise. Im squeezing so very hard that its already leaving such pretty bruises. I slam you against the wall and I pull your skirt up, and see that they are already drenched. I lean down and whisper "You want this don't you, you little slut. Why else would you be wet." Then with a sudden jerk I rip your panties off, and I stuff them in your mouth as a gag, taking my hand off of your throat and shoving two of my fingers in your dripping cunt. You can't help but moan from around your ruined panties as my big fingers stretch your pretty little cunt. You try to fight me off but I'm so much bigger and stronger you cant do anything other than take it like the little rape toy you are. I decide that its time for the main course as I turn you around, slamming your face against the wall, and before you can brace yourself I'm inside of you. Rutting into you with quick, forceful, deep thrusts. At this point the attendant knocks on the door and asks if everything is okay. I take the panties out of your mouth and growl into your ear "if you tell them, I'll break your fucking neck before they get the door open". "I-I-Everything is fine" you squeak out through ragged breaths as I don't stop fucking you. As the attendant walks away I pick you up by your hips, using my arms to swing you into me as I fuck you even harder. You can't help but cum on my cock, sobbing as you do. "Little rape puppy cumming on the rapists cock, how cute" I growl in your ear as it only makes me fuck you harder. I get close and I start to squeeze your neck again, the panic making you clench around me even harder. "I'm going to fucking breed you now, which is more than a little rapeslut like you deserves". You try to plead "please stop I can't get pregnant please". you try to scream out but the only sound you can make from around my hand is little gurgles. You can help but start to cum again as I start to flood your womb with my seed, your eyes rolling back from the ecstasy of it all.
Then, I pull my pants up and I leave the dressing room. Leaving you collapsed in a pool of our cum. I leave the door open for everyone to see as you lay there, a pathetic little rapesleeve. I turn around and take a picture before I go telling you "I'll see you next time princess"
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ladyloveandjustice · 3 months
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And as I noted last time, Yumi Tamura know what she'd doing, and even Arashi himself accounts for the fact that what he said earlier sounds like victim-blaming. I guess that is a pretty basic fact to know about domestic violence victims, but still, Arashi strikes me as pretty saavy about this stuff for a teenage boy in the early 2000s. I wonder if after what happened to Hana he did some research on trauma and assault.
...and then thinking about that, you realize that Arashi is currently helping someone process their abuse and empathizing with them, all while not knowing that this person assaulted and attempted to rape his girlfriend.
BOY IS ARASHI FINDING THIS OUT GONNA BE MESSY.
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stackslip · 1 year
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it's so clear that the lack of sexual education and the reification of gendered roles is specifically because the government wants the summer a girls to be raped and impregnated in the future with no ability to use contraception, or for anybody to learn/exercise consent, because the point to them is reproduction and perpetuation of the Glorious Japanese People
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k-i-l-l-e-r-b-e-e-6-9 · 6 months
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𝔉𝔩𝔢𝔰𝔥𝔤𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔡 - 𝔖𝔢𝔞𝔰 𝔒𝔣 ℌ𝔞𝔯𝔯𝔬𝔴
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tacticalvalor · 1 year
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REAL LIFE INSPIRATIONS || JOSEPH SEED
I’ve been having a discussion about the inspirations for the Project at Eden's Gate (and how various other religious cults have done very similar things), and thought back to when I was binging a podcast by the name of “Cults”, produced by the Parcast Network. So here's me resharing some thoughts about the Project at Eden’s Gate and the Seed Family.
Specifically, while listening to the episodes on David Koresh (leader of the Branch Davidians) I remembered that it has been assumed/confirmed that Joseph Seed’s characterization has drawn inspiration from the leader.
The podcast episodes are available on Spotify: EPISODE ONE // EPISODE TWO
DISCLAIMER: I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, nor are the hosts of “Cults”. Extensive research has been done, yet there still may be inaccuracies.
TW / CW for: Discussions of Cult Behavior and Abuse, as well as mentions of Abuse, Rape, Death and Violence, and similarly upsetting themes.
So I wanted to talk about that by pointing out similarities between the two and exploring the psychological headcanons I developed for Joseph, as well as examining Koresh’s speculated psychological profile.
First, some background on David Koresh and the Branch Davidians:
David Koresh, born Vernon Wayne Howell, was an American cult leader who played a central role in the tragic Waco siege of 1993. As the head of the Branch Davidians, which was a sect of the Davidian Seventh-Day Adventist Church, Koresh claimed to be a ‘final prophet’ to the religion. Koresh was a disturbed individual with many crimes on his hands, including numerous alleged cases of child abuse and statutory rape that had failed to turn up evidence when under investigation.
The Waco siege lasted from February 1993 to April 1993, and occured when the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) raided the cult’s compound at the Mount Carmel Center. 79 Branch Davidians, including Koresh, died during the siege after the compound caught on fire; 21 victims being under the age of 16.
There are some surface level similarities between Koresh and Joseph, including but not limited to:
A less than fortunate childhood Their style of dress/manner of appearance
A hyperfixation on the Bible and biblical scripture, particularly Revelations (though the fixation on Revelations is a keystone to general Seventh-Day Adventism)
Their belief in an apocalyptic-level disaster being "God's Will" without a set date.
One thing in particular I want to focus on, though, is the hyperfixation on the Bible and "God's Will".
According to "Cults”, Koresh began displaying possible symptoms of neurological and/or psychological problems from an early age. They quote an interview from a March 14th, 1993 that Koresh had with the FBI, stating:
“ See, people have—They say God talks to them. Well, I had that problem too—you know—but my problem began as a child—you know—as a—as a—as a little child. ”
He then went on to describe an experience he had when he was approximately twelve, noting how:
“ One night, again, I was—I was confronted, praying towards—You know, the northern part of our universe. And there was a very beautiful, soft—It’s a, uh, it’s like [an] explosion in the universe. And the star, and this is just part of my growing up. I told my mom about it, and she says—she says—well—she says 'Go to sleep and it will go away’. ”
Vanessa, one of the podcast’s hosts, notes that these experiences may be ecstatic hallucinations.
Ecstatic hallucinations can be the result of temporal lobe seizures, and are described by renowned neurologists as:
” A sudden sense of bliss or rapture, and feeling that one has been transported to Heaven. There is nearly always some mystical or religious or sexual bend to ecstatic hallucinations. “
There have been numerous instances of psychologists and other professionals tying this sensation to religion, and it has been speculated many prominent religious figures may have drawn their visions from these seizures.
Ironically, if we look into The Book of Joseph (Joseph Seed’s personal gospel) we can see how similar the descriptions of 'hearing the voice of God’ are. Joseph describes having these sudden, blinding moments of clarity, even quoting:
” Later, he [Jacob] would recount how my eyes shone feverishly in the dark and how my faith had stayed his hand. “
From what research I can gather, temporal lobe seizures are sometimes called 'focal seizures with impaired awareness’. During these seizures, some individuals remain aware of what’s happening around them, but more intense episodes may lead to individuals ”… looking awake but be[ing] unresponsive.“ Across the board, the causes are broad and unknown.
In Koresh’s case, there is no explanation as to what caused these potential episodes. In Joseph’s it would be reasonable to assume physical trauma due to the fact his father was physically abusive toward the siblings.
Putting this aside, the actual teachings of Koresh and Joseph are very similar. To illustrate this, I will show a quote of Koresh’s and a quote from The Book of Joseph side-by-side.
A direct quote from David Koresh to the FBI prior to the Waco incident:
” Unfortunately, when I get through writing this and they’re given to my attorney—and my attorney [unintelligible] and it’s shown they have a sensational interest in these things, you see, then I can [unintelligible] and people go and ask me—and you know they’re not going to ask me about [the seals] or anything—uh, uh, [Unintelligible] ‘Do you sacrifice people? Do you have underground automatic weapons? Do you have guns?’ That’s what they’re going to get answers to. [Unintelligible]. That’s why I need to complete it, because you see as well as I do—That people in this world, they want something dramatic and sensational! They don’t want to sit—Nobody’s going to sit there and let me sit there in front of a camera and read [unintelligible] to prove the first seal. “
NOTE: Due to the audio quality, this may not be entirely accurate. This quote is at the start of episode one.
A direct quote from The Book of Joseph:
” Man’s pride has made him so forgetful and ungrateful, that God intends to start over. For we have learned nothing. We have left our filth on everything, soiled it all. […] The greed of men destroys every hint: forests, oceans, their fellow man. […] Who else do the FBI and other government agencies persecute these days? Such pariahs are constantly harassed and subjected to the relentless zeal of federal authorities. They are subpoenaed, hunted down, kept tabs on, and humiliated. Sometimes they are dragged off to prison and driven to madness or suicide. “
Both Koresh and Joseph believe that the cause for rapture, or in a realistic sense the apocalypse, is due to the greed of man and society. Both, similarly, believe that they are the sole saviors of humanity, and that the breaking of the seals can be subverted—for a lack of better word—so long as people trust that they are the sole messenger of God.
This belief is known as the Messiah Complex, which is alternatively known as the Christ Complex or Savior Complex. Some research concludes that there is an association between the presence of a Messiah Complex and the presence of disorders such as Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder. This article on the Messiah Complex goes more into depth on the general scope: [ LINK ]
Again, though, not a lot is known about Koresh’s psychological profile.
Nor is there a lot about Joseph’s. Personally, when it comes to Joseph, I have concluded that in addition to potential physical trauma and ecstatic seizures, the way that Joseph describes having visions and hearing God’s voice align with the symptoms of Acute and Transient Psychotic Disorder (ATPD). Being left untreated due to the circumstances of his upbringing, this developed into Paranoid Schizophrenia.
There’s no real conclusion to draw here, but I thought it was interesting seeing the inspiration the writers for Far Cry 5 took and how these similarities come to light.
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dolldefiler · 2 months
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Another incest piece, at the risk of my asks being filled with very questionable shit. The daughter’s at least 18. I created her so I can make that decision.
C/W: Incest, Rape, Somnophilia (is this the right format?)
It’s alright, baby. Drink as much as you want. I’m here for you. I’ll keep you safe, I promise. Daddy’s not going to let anyone touch you. Well… except myself. Mhm? Nothing, puppet. Drink up now. That’s a good girl. Don’t worry, this will be our little secret while your mother’s out of town. Well, it would be a secret if she hadn’t encouraged me to do this… Nothing, sweetheart, you’re hearing things. Now let’s get you back. You look like you’re half asleep. Honey? Honey?
Oh, you silly little girl. Falling asleep while you’re out drinking with Daddy. Now I’ll have to carry you back. It’s a good thing I’m not one of those evil, perverted men that would ruin your pretty fuckholes, princess. Aww, you sound so cute when you slur your words like that. You sound just like your mother, the first time I raped her. Just go back to sleep, my love. It’ll just be a bad nightmare when you wake up, won’t it?
Now that you’re in bed, let’s see what you have under that dress… Oh my. I didn’t realise my pretty little princess was wearing such adult underwear. Did you know I would be the one taking your dress off tonight? Did you know Daddy would be the one to strip you naked, sweetheart? Is that why you’re wearing that? Aww, you didn’t need to do that for me. I’d fuck you anyway. I’d breed my own daughter regardless of what she wore. 
Oh, fuck. Shit, even when you’re asleep the lips of your cunt kiss my cock perfectly. It’s like… it’s like you were made for me. Oh shit, look at that. Your creamy cunt’s slathering my shaft, even when you have no idea it’s happening. 
I knew you were a pervert, just like your parents.
And what if I… did this- FUCK! Oh fuck, yes. God, you’re even tighter than your whore of a mother when she was your age. God, I don’t think I’m going to last long. I’m using my fucking daughter’s pussy to jack off in. Shit, let’s release these tits. Ugh, you’re perfect. They’re beautiful. God, but they’d look so much better with my cock thrusting between them and your pretty eyes looking up into mine. I’m fucking cumming, princess. I’m so sorry, I can’t help it. Just take it all. Take all of Daddy’s hot seed in your fertile womb, as nature intended. You were designed to be mine from the start.
Perhaps you’ll learn that when you realise your belly and tits are swelling up.
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boxingcleverrr · 5 months
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Popular Hades & Persephone "retellings" are, rightly, getting dunked on all over the socials right now and, as a Pagan who has an altar to the Queen, I could not be happier. But also, I feel like a lot of people miss WHY they're bad - aside from just plain bad writing and lazy tropes. Which are, yeah, also REALLY bad.
Pretty much all retellings try to wave away, or excuse, or twist the whole kidnapping bit. And I actually do have sympathy and understanding for why, when speaking from a modern perspective.
But honestly...you gotta get over it. There are other stories to play fix-it with, not this one.
The Abduction is The Thing.
Were I a little more sober I could bring up chapter and verse of the Hymn to Demeter but frankly, if you know even the middle school mythology curriculum version of the story, you SHOULD know the themes. The story of Persephone was one mothers and daughters in the ancient world held dear, because it was a reality: you will, one day, be swept away from your home to go cleave to a man you most likely know nothing about. You will miss your mother, but chances are very good that he will be a good husband, once you get to know him, certainly better than Zeus or Ares, and he will make you a queen of his home.
Leaving home to marry was often scary, and violent (look up the history of the tradition of Bridesmaids, if you don't already know it - they were originally decoys on the marriage road). Centuries later we'd have tales like Beauty & The Beast serving the same function: comfort, hope, you are leaving your safe loving home to figure life out with a (often older, powerful) stranger. Your trauma over this sudden ending of your childhood made manifest in a Beast, or a God of The Underworld.
It's wonderful that we don't NEED stories like this anymore to comfort us (here, at least, in this culture). But if you try to force them into modern vernacular it just will not work, not really, because you're gutting out the whole point just to have a more tidy romantic male hero.
I have read MANY very good ...novelizations? fanfic(? however you would frame them, but they're certainly not "retellings"), etc. that simply take advantage of the blank spaces in the myth, and there are many!
It's not explicit that sexual assault happens - "The Rape of Persephone" as a title was coined in much earlier eras, when the word was just as often used to simply refer to abduction.
"She was starving!" the gods didn't need to eat. So it's easy to read her eating the Pom seeds as a deliberate choice on her part. Like, shit, people, scholars have written whole papers on the symbolism of this moment, between marriage rites and even yeah, Seph choosing both worlds with her husband's knowing consent.
And that, I think, is the real heart of the thing. People want an utterly mundane, spelled-out story here, as opposed to what it really is, has always been, just like any other myth or religious parable: IT'S A METAPHOOOOOOR.
They don't need to be destined, or meet at a goddamned BALL and then CONSPIRE to fake her kidnapping, or shit, I once saw one where Hades got MIND CONTROLLED by Zeus?! Jesus.
Persephone was yoinked into the Underworld against her will.
That's how it went.
I don't mean this in a "stay out of my belief system!" way, shit I'm a white American chick with delusions of witchery. I mean this in a "stop stressing yourself out trying to make things palatable" way:
This is a very real, very precious myth to many people, BECAUSE for at least that one event, Persephone had no autonomy, BECAUSE for thousands of years most women had no autonomy. Erasing that, sanitizing the fact that a girl is ripped out of the spring, from her mother's arms, is erasing the thing that gave comfort to women for centuries. And people can and should still find power and healing in it now!
Fill in the blanks the story leaves in whatever manner seems fit to you, there's plenty of room, but. Come the fuck on.
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vaspider · 5 months
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In defense of retellings & reimaginings
I'm not going to respond to the post that sparked this, because honestly, I don't really feel like getting in an argument, and because it's only vaguely even about the particular story that the other post discussed. The post in question objected to retellings of the Rape of Persephone which changed important elements of the story -- specifically, Persephone's level of agency, whether she was kidnapped, whether she ate seeds out of hunger, and so on. It is permissible, according to this thesis, to 'fill in empty spaces,' but not to change story elements, because 'those were important to the original tellers.' (These are acknowledged paraphrases, and I will launch you into the sun if you nitpick this paragraph.)
I understand why to the person writing that, that perspective is important, and why they -- especially as a self-described devotee of Persephone -- feel like they should proscribe boundaries around the myth. It's a perfectly valid perspective to use when sorting -- for example -- which things you choose to read. If you choose not to read anything which changes the elements which you feel are important, I applaud you.
However, the idea that one should only 'color in missing pieces,' especially when dealing with stories as old, multi-sourced, and fractional as ancient myths, and doing so with the argument that you shouldn't change things because those base elements were important to the people who originally crafted the stories, misses -- in my opinion -- the fundamental reason we tell stories and create myths in the first place.
Forgive me as I get super fucking nerdy about this. I've spent the last several years of my life wrestling with the concept of myths as storytelling devices, universality of myths, and why myths are even important at all as part of writing on something like a dozen books (a bunch of which aren't out yet) for a game centered around mythology. A lot of the stuff I've written has had to wrestle with exactly this concept -- that there is a Sacred Canon which cannot be disrupted, and that any disregard of [specific story elements] is an inexcusable betrayal.
Myths are stories we tell ourselves to understand who we are and what's important to us as individuals, as social groups, and as a society. The elements we utilize or change, those things we choose to include and exclude when telling and retelling a story, tell us what's important to us.
I could sit down and argue over the specific details which change over the -- at minimum -- 1700 years where Persephone/Kore/Proserpina was actively worshiped in Greek and Roman mystery cults, but I actually don't think those variations in specific are very important. What I think is important, however, is both the duration of her cults -- at minimum from 1500 BCE to 200CE -- and the concept that myths are stories we tell ourselves to understand who we are and what's important to us.
The idea that there was one, or even a small handful, of things that were most important to even a large swath of the people who 'originally' told the store of the Rape of Persephone or any other 'foundational' myth of what is broadly considered 'Western Culture,' when those myths were told and retold in active cultic worship for 1700 years... that seems kind of absurd to me on its face. Do we have the same broad cultural values as the original tellers of Beowulf, which is only (heh) between 1k-1.3k years old? How different are our marital traditions, our family traditions, and even our language? We can, at best, make broad statements, and of inclusive necessity, those statements must be broad enough as to lose incredible amounts of specificity. In order to make definitive, specific statements, we must leave out large swaths of the people to whom this story, or any like it, was important.
To move away from the specific story brought up by the poster whose words spun this off, because it really isn't about that story in particular, let's use The Matter of Britain/Arthuriana as our framing for the rest of this discussion. If you ask a random nerd on Tumblr, they'd probably cite a handful of story elements as essential -- though of course which ones they find most essential undoubtedly vary from nerd to nerd -- from the concept that Camelot Always Falls to Gawain and the Green Knight, Percival and the grail, Lancelot and Guinevere...
... but Lancelot/Guinevere and Percival are from Chrétien de Troyes in the 12th century, some ~500 years after Taliesin's first verses. Lancelot doesn't appear as a main character at all before de Troyes, and we can only potentially link him to characters from an 11th century story (Culhwch and Olwen) for which we don't have any extant manuscripts before the 15th century. Gawain's various roles in his numerous appearances are... conflicting characterizations at best.
The point here is not just that 'the things you think are essential parts of the story are not necessarily original,' or that 'there are a lot of different versions of this story over the centuries,' but also 'what you think of as essential is going to come back to that first thesis statement above.' What you find important about The Matter of Britain, and which story elements you think can be altered, filed off or filled in, will depend on what that story needs to tell you about yourself and what's important to you.
Does creating a new incarnation of Arthur in which she is a diasporic lesbian in outer space ruin a story originally about Welsh national identity and chivalric love? Does that disrespect the original stories? How about if Arthur is a 13th century Italian Jew? Does it disrespect the original stories if the author draws deliberate parallels between the seduction of Igerne and the story of David and Bathsheba?
Well. That depends on what's important to you.
Insisting that the core elements of a myth -- whichever elements you believe those to be -- must remain static essentially means 'I want this myth to stagnate and die.' Maybe it's because I am Jewish, and we constantly re-evaluate every word in Torah, over and over again, every single year, or maybe it's because I spend way, way too much time thinking about what's valuable in stories specifically because I write words about these concepts for money, but I don't find these arguments compelling at all, especially not when it comes to core, 'mainstream' mythologies. These are tools in the common toolbox, and everybody has access to them.
More important to me than the idea that these core elements of any given story must remain constant is, to paraphrase Dolly Parton, that a story knows what it is and does it on purpose. Should authors present retellings or reimaginings of the Rape of Persephone or The Matter of Britain which significantly alter historically-known story elements as 'uncovered' myths or present them as 'the real and original' story? Absolutely not. If someone handed me a book in which the new Grail was a limited edition Macklemore Taco Bell Baja Blast cup and told me this comes directly from recently-discovered 6th century writings of Taliesin, I would bonk them on the head with my hardcover The Once & Future King. Of course that's not the case, right?
But the concept of canon, historically, in these foundational myths has not been anything like our concept of canon today. Canon should function like a properly-fitted corset, in that it should support, not constrict, the breath in the story's lungs. If it does otherwise, authors should feel free to discard it in part or in whole.
Concepts of familial duty and the obligation of marriage don't necessarily resonate with modern audiences the way that the concept of self-determination, subversion of unreasonable and unjustified authority, and consent do. That is not what we, as a general society, value now. If the latter values are the values important to the author -- the story that the author needs to tell in order to express who they are individually and culturally and what values are important to them* -- then of course they should retell the story with those changed values. That is the point of myths, and always has been.
Common threads remain -- many of us move away from family support regardless of the consent involved in our relationships, and life can be terrifying when you're suddenly out of the immediate reach and support of your family -- because no matter how different some values are, essential human elements remain in every story. It's scary to be away from your mother for the first time. It's scary to live with someone new, in a new place. It's intimidating to find out that other people think you have a Purpose in life that you need to fulfill. It's hard to negotiate between the needs of your birth family and your chosen family.
None of this, to be clear, is to say that any particular person should feel that they need to read, enjoy, or appreciate any particular retelling, or that it's cool, hip and groovy to misrepresent your reworking of a myth as a 'new secret truth which has always been there.' If you're reworking a myth, be truthful about it, and if somebody told you 'hey did you know that it really -- ' and you ran with that and find out later you were wrong, well, correct the record. It's okay to not want to read or to not enjoy a retelling in which Arthur, Lancelot and Guinevere negotiate a triad and live happily ever after; it's not really okay to say 'you can't do that because you changed a story element which I feel is non-negotiable.' It's okay to say 'I don't think this works because -- ' because part of writing a story is that people are going to have opinions on it. It's kind of weird to say 'you're only allowed to color inside these lines.'
That's not true, and it never has been. Greek myths are not from a closed culture. Roman myths are not sacrosanct. There are plenty of stories which outsiders should leave the hell alone, but Greek and Roman myths are simply not on that list. There is just no world in which you can make an argument that the stories of the Greek and Roman Empires are somehow not open season to the entire English-speaking world. They are the public-est of domain.
You don't have to like what people do with it, but that doesn't make people wrong for writing it, and they certainly don't have to color within the lines you or anyone else draws. Critique how they tell the story, but they haven't committed some sort of cultural treachery by telling the stories which are important to them rather than the stories important to someone 2500 years dead.
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*These are not the only reasons to tell a story and I am not in any way saying that an author is only permitted to retell a story to express their own values. There are as many reasons to tell a story as there are stories, and I don't really think any reason to create fiction is more or less valid than any other. I am discussing, specifically, the concept of myths as conveyors of essential cultural truths.
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