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docpiplup · 1 year

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@asongofstarkandtargaryen Me watching casually an advertaising on the TV of a new soap opera (I will not watch it because it will be very long and an episode airing daily almost every afternoon) then reading the plot and finding that the main pairing and their relationship is basically a Character swap AU of Julio and Alicia from Gran Hotel, but instead of 1905 it's 1913.

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Synopsis: "1913. The whole world is on the brink of the abyss, but there are havens of peace isolated from conflicts. Like the La Promesa Palace, in the Los Pedroches valley, owned by the Marquises of Luján, one of the largest landowners in the country.

The day the Palace is preparing to celebrate the wedding of the heir, Tomás (Jordi Coll), is interrupted by the appearance of an airplane that attracts everyone's attention. It is piloted by Manuel (Arturo Sancho, aka young Bernat in the first episodes of Los Herederos de la tierra), Tomás' younger brother. Suddenly, the device loses altitude until it crashes. Manuel is about to be consumed by the flames; but someone manages to save him: Jana (Ana Garcés).

The Marquis offers her a financial reward, but she only wants to work in the Palace and has a clear motive: to do justice to her mother, murdered fifteen years ago, and to investigate the whereabouts of her brother, kidnapped when he was a newborn. And the only clue that she has is related to the Marquises of Luján. The time has come for revenge. There is only one element that she had not counted on: Manuel, son of the Marquises... and the last person she would expect to fall in love with. Can love quench the thirst for revenge? Could you forget those who sank your life? To your mother's murderers? To those who made your brother disappear?".

Cast: Ana Garcés, Eva Martín, Arturo Sancho, Joaquín Climent, María Castro, Jordi Coll, Antonio Velázquez, Andrea del Río, Manuel Regueiro, Carmen Asecas, Alicia Bercán, Paula Losada, Carmen Flores, Teresa Quintero, Antonio Velázquez, Sara Molina and Enrique Fortún.

Jana, just like Julio, starts working as a servant for the rich family to investigate the disappearance of a sibling, and she meets and falls in love with Manuel, like Julio and Alicia fell in love with each other, and probably Manuel will eventually help Jana to solve the murder of her mother and to find her brother, in a similar way to Julio and Alicia figuring out the disappearance of Julio's sister.

In some kind of sense also La Promesa is something like Downton Abbey and Gran Hotel had a child together in a soap opera format😂 (Also Gran Hotel and La Promesa both are from Bambú Producciones)

(The series or films in which Bambú Producciones has been involved are Guante Blanco, Hispania: La leyenda, Gran Reserva, Gran Hotel, Marco, Imperium, Gran Reserva: El origen, El club de los incomprendidos, Velvet, Seis Hermanas, En tierras salvajes, Bajo Sospecha, La embajada, Las chicas del cable, Tiempos de guerra, Velvet Colección, Traición, Fariña, 45 revoluciones, A pesar de todo, Instinto, Alta Mar, Malasaña 32, Refugiados (The Refugees), El verano que vivimos, Jaguar, Un año, una noche, Un asunto privado, Dos Vidas, Now & then, La Promesa, 13 exorcismos, Nacho and Nosotros podemos. And some documentaries like Fraga y Fidel, sin embargo, American greyhounds, Lo que la verdad esconde: el caso Asunta, El crimen de Alcàsser, 800 metros, Bajo escucha: el acusado)

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(This channel where I found the trailer has also some interesanting videos talking about some aspects of the historical context of La Promesa)

#random comparisons #gran hotel #la promesa #julio olmedo #alicia alarcón #period dramas #julio × alicia #amaia salamanca #yon gonzález #ana garcés #arturo sancho #jana expósito #manuel de luján #bambú producciones

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3knecrotic · 11 months

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Yall I'm Fucked yp

Send me aassks so I can answer them in thc fueled barely coherent tangents

#dk speaks #thc rambles #i Mean Make em Real Silly yo #random comparisons #memories #dk trivia #hate mail #idfc send it

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femmespoiled · 1 year

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I kind of wish we could talk about racism in the community (rampant occurrence) without getting sidetracked, because it comes from all sides. I made a post about it and about the straight up fetishization we go through before and it blew up but to this day, I don't know the answer to this problem, aside from doing the work to become antiracist, which is constant work, not just "oh I'm now antiracist".

As far as white people are concerned there isn't one group better than the other, all of you have work to do, I don't care if you're lesbian, bi, trans etc, if you're white, you're privileged.

It doesn't make one group any less racist to say "what about this other group instead?"

As a person of colour I have a hard time feeling safe around any white person, because I don't know them, I don't know how they're going to act and I have my own experiences with all groups, really don't think that one is better than the other.

#this is such a tiring discussion #random stuff #i don't care about the comparisons #and it feels disingenuous to use racism to catch attention to the topic you seem to actually want to talk about #it's a white people discussion. not a specific white people group #let's bring them all to the table and discuss because none of you are excused #dont use racism as your attention grabber of the day #b discusses racism

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chacolachao · 9 months

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I was scrolling through old art posts and stumbled upon something It's quite amazing to know that you're always getting better even when you don't notice. There's a pretty significant event gap between these two pieces but 2016 really still feels like yesterday. I'm not entirely sure why I'm bringing this up but maybe it's just to say,

Hey, keep doing what you love to do. No matter how rough you may think it is now, no matter how much of a style copy it may look like- you'll get there and find yourself in the process.

And then you'll keep on going.

#im speaking as an artist #but this goes for pretty much any field #you writers you programmers you architects #something random #my art #comparison

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raedshadowlegends · 10 months

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Why Lore Olympus and Miraculous Ladybug are the Same Thing but in Different Fonts

Good evening, good day, hello and howdy. I am INCREDIBLY bored and I'm here to go on a nonsensical tangent about two pieces of media that I hate and have dedicated a vast amount of my free time to. This is all in good fun and all of my rudeness is intended to be satirical and/or comical unless indicated otherwise.

Now just to preface, if you know me then you know how much I dislike Miraculous Ladybug. Folks in my circle got to watch as I descended into madness writing a 64k word review on season 5. So I've spent an uncomfortable amount of time dissecting this show.

I have also spent an uncomfortable amount of time engaging with the shitshow that is Lore Olympus. And now my ass is gonna try and compare the two because there's a lot of shit going on here.

None of this is going to matter and it's all in good fun. Like I said, I am bored. And sometimes it's fun to compare stuff you hate.

Now let the insanity ensue. FP spoilers and MLB s5 spoilers below the cut btw.

To get a major difference out of the way, Miraculous Ladybug is a tv show. Lore Olympus is a webcomic.

But mediums aside, these two things still have a lot in common. So for the first comparison, I'd like to talk about the insecurity in both properties.

Insecurity

What I define as insecurity in this context is a piece of media that is too afraid to commit or adhere to a certain tone, story, style, etc. In short-- they don't know what they want to be.

Insecurity in Lore Olympus is a bit more obvious than with Miraculous so I'm gonna rant about that first.

Lore Olympus just straight up does not have a story to tell.

There are too many random ass plots being added and discarded on a whim for it to be a coherent story. A good way to explain it is kinda like this-- In this episode of LO, something cool new and interesting is set up and you have to keep reading to see what happens! And then nothing ever happens. Or it happens because the audience won't let the author forget so there's a half-assed attempt to wrap up that plot point.

LO is so insecure about what it is, it feels the need to add more and more to make it actually something. But what it is is a hollow story that lacks substance. So all of these new random plot points are kinda like bandaid solutions if that makes sense.

There are so many unfinished/under-utilized plot points that if you were to count out each and every one, you'd probably keel over dead before you finished. There's that many.

It's too insecure to commit to any one of them in the grand scheme of things.

I don't know how coherent all of that was so here's a shitty tl;dr

LO doesn't know what it wants to say anymore so it's just adding more shit to keep the reader "invested."

Yeah ok I think that makes more sense. As for Miraculous...

God. I fucking hate Miraculous.

It's insecure as hell and you can smell that shit from ten miles away. It's insecure with it's premise, I think.

If it just kept to the simple "monster-of-the-week" formula, I do not think I would have written so many words on it's fifth season.

Miraculous (apparently) had a grander story to tell beyond the "monster-of-the-week revert back to the status quo each episode."

But we don't see any of that in full swing till season 3, really. Which is a long ass time to get the ball rolling imo.

It's a little jarring to see the show go from the stupid kid status quo adventures to a heavy and emotional story??? And I say heavy and emotional with the most sarcastic tone possible because the only emotion I feel watching this shit is rage.

Despite wanting to make that shift to a serialized type of show, Miraculous was too scared to stray from the successful status quo format.

To explain a bit more I wanna talk about my review of the season.

While it is mostly filled with rude jokes and incomprehensible jargon, I bring up a lot of points in it regarding the state of things.

One of those things being the show's hesitancy to move the story along.

The fifth season was supposed to be a grand final battle and a conclusion to this story arc. But it was too scared to commit to that so there's way more episodes that are nothing but shipping fodder.

There are many episodes that season that just... feel the same. Just with different coats of paint. "Marinette is trying to date Adrien but she's awkward and clumsy and oh no! shenanigans ensue!" We've been doing this for 8 years.

If they want to tell a serialized story then they need to grow some balls and cut the shit we've seen a million times before.

Their insistence to stick to the status quo makes the writing exceptionally weak downright painful to sift through. It was too scared, too insecure, to stray from its formula.

That's a part of the reason why I think the season is paced so bad. There's so little time spent on the interesting parts of the story because they had to cram in as much shipping shit as possible. So by proxy, there was less time to tell a good story.

Both of these stupid ass properties don't know what they want to be. There are too many things being added and not enough balls to commit to any of them.

Now with both LO and MLB, we can all agree that the writing is pretty shit. Nothing new there. But shitty writing often bleeds into the characters and making them shitty by exposure. Almost like a spill of toxic waste, infecting anything near it and turning into a rotten pile of sludge and chemicals.

So yeah, the characters are ass as well. But I only wanna complain about the female leads for both of these things.

But just to mention Adrien and Hades, they are pretty similar. I won't go into detail but the short of it is, "Character with deep seated issues that could have been interesting, has a lot of potential, but is just kinda garbage in the end."

At least Adrien Agreste isn't monetizing death and has a bunch of shades in his basement doing his work.

Persephone and Marinette

So I always say that I don't like using the term 'Mary Sue' to describe a character. But as it turns out, I use that term a lot. So I'm not gonna lie about that anymore.

These two characters are Mary Sues.

Persephone first

Oh my god I hate Persephone a lot. She just ticks every box on my list of 'THINGS I HATE IN A CHARACTER.'

Which is funny because her character had a lot of promise and heart in the beginning.

I related to her a LOT when I picked up this comic before my frontal cortex developed. I related with her character and her struggles. Especially after the Apollo incident. That really stuck out to me. It was so powerful.

But all of those tiny things I liked about her character were stripped away. Her ambition to study in school? Poof, gone. Her charm? Not charming anymore. That kindness everyone in the story gushes about? I don't even think it was there in the first place.

Truth be told, I do need to reread this comic because the beginning is fuzzy as fuck in my walnut-sized brain. But I can tell you for certain that the way she was in the beginning is not who she is now.

And this isn't the case of a character going through an arc and developing and changing. She's just getting worse and the narrative treats it as a GOOD THING.

"Oh yeah, Persephone trashed Leuce's apartment instead of talking to her husband like an adult. She threatened to kill this nymph but you're supposed to find that endearing." Like, what??? I will not have a story try and get me to believe this is a good thing.

If this were a good story, Persephone's actions in that episode WOULDN'T BE REWARDED. But she's rewarded with sex for being a fucking psychopath towards a random nymph. Wow.

And that leads into my next point-- she can never be in the wrong ever.

AOW? Retconned, not her fault. It wasn't her fault she killed all those people. It's actually Eris' fault because she gave her wrath.

Trashing Leuce's apartment? She was in the right for that, apparently.

Killing people in a famine during the 10 year banishment? That's never explored, we just know she killed people, burned a library or something, and probably shot the president too. But it's fine, she's the good guy.

And most recently (and potentially the most frustrating);

Persephone causes winter.

Not her mother, Demeter, no fuck the myths. Persephone is the one who caused winter actually. AND SHE DID IT ON ACCIDENT SO TECHNICALLY IT IS NOT HER FAULT CAUSE SHE DIDNT MEAN TOOOO UWU She also probably killed a million flower nymphs in that snap freeze but its ok it doesn't matter.

WHAT?

WHAT THE FUCK? CMON NOW.

She's not going to receive any consequences for anything because she is just too perfect.

She's smarter than Athena, prettier than Aphrodite, better than her mother in every way, all the boys want her, she has a perfect body, she's pink, her eyes go red when she's angy, she has the most power of everyone in the world, she's a super rare fertility goddess, she has all the gifts, all the blessings, and none of the development.

It almost feels like a wattpad fanfic.

"My mom doesn't like me so she sold me to one direction and then I became queen of the underworld."

Yeah, I don't like her.

And the same can be applied to Marinette!

A character who is so blatantly perfect, the narrative fucking BENDS TO HER WILL.

She's a creepy ass stalker and has done some weird ass things to get close to this random famous white boy and it's all excused.

It's literally excused.

There is a rule about character backstories. They are supposed to provide an explanation for a character's behavior, not an excuse for it.

In season 5, episode 14 - Derision, we see a bit of Marinette backstory. Some stupid bullshit happens and Marinette essentially says she isn't going to say 'I love you' to anyone unless she knows literally everything about them.

She says a lot in that stupid ass scene but it's basically just saying that all of her stalking and creepy behavior is justified. Which it is not.

Marinette can do no wrong. The narrative won't allow it.

She's perfect in every way. And even when SHE is in the wrong, characters somehow find a way to apologize to her. Either that or she turns a situation about someone else into one about her self.

She's just the perfect character who ends up saving the world.

Fuck having Chat Noir face against his dad in the finale, Marinette has to girlboss all over the place and save the day but then actually lose because the "plot" demands it.

Oh yeah and she's probably never going to tell Adrien that his abusive dad was the villain they had been fighting for months. Do you think that's a good choice? I'll give you a hint; it is not.

It makes Marinette look like a HORRIBLE character but it's painted in a way that makes the viewer believe this is the right decision.

I don't think I need to get into specifics as to why that is wrong and disgusting.

If I had to make a prediction for this show going forward, she isn't going to tell him. It's going to be forgotten and she's going to be painted as the hero.

No flaws, no accountability, nothing.

Garbage character. Fucking hate it.

Both of these characters will never see consequences for their actions. Their bad actions are either excused or retconned out of existence. And that's not how you write a character btw. If you want them to be real, give them consequences. The world should not revolve around them. They should have flaws and issues that should be explored. But apparently that's too much work.

It's funny how both of these properties claim to be about feminism and somehow completely miss what feminism is

Miraculous thinks that feminism means "Girl power! Girls are better than guys in every way!" And Lore Olympus makes no attempt to be feminist at all. Women hate other women, and they don't get a lot of opportunities to explore and express themselves.

I could get into the whole purity culture shtick but that's a shitty rant for another day.

I've been ranting about this for a while and I got the big ones out of the way, methinks. I do want to get into the creators of both of these things but that is also a rant for another day.

Cause if I got into that now, we'd be here a while.

So let me just make a final comparison and wrap things up here. I don't think any of this makes a lot of sense but I hate both things and I'm passionate about it so I'm gonna keep rambling.

Miraculous Ladybug and Lore Olympus never attempt to grow as stories. They are both scared to try new things and to stick with it. Most of the time this results in rushed writing and horribly done characters.

It's so clear that both of these things are desperate to be something great but they just can't put in the work to get there.

Honestly, they both feel like the product of a team of yes-men. Bad decisions and errors slip by WAY too often and it's kind of embarrassing.

These are popular pieces of media and they have the resources to be great but they just aren't.

They're both too insecure to make something of themselves.

It's honestly really sad and I don't want this for either of these things. I want LO to be stunning and retell the myth of Persephone with the respect it deserves. I want MLB to be a serialized show with focus on the lore. Sure it can start as episodic but it can ease us into a deeper story and intrigue the viewer. But I want it to flesh out the world and be an entertaining experience.

It's sad but it's the way it is.

Who knows, maybe MLB season 6 will be good. And maybe LO will have a 4th season and it'll fix all the problems it has.

I dunno.

Thanks for reading this incoherent nonsense.

#This is a really random comparison between media so if you see this and are confused im so sorry #i got bored #anti lore olympus #lore olympus critical #anti lo #lo critical #unpopular lore olympus #unpopular lo #anti miraculous ladybug #ml salt #ml critical #ml criticism

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max-the-silly-guy · 3 months

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Marlon after his husband destroys manglewood and doesnt come back a day later and yell out "JUST KIDDING IM NOT EVIL OR POSSESSED" but instead invades bunkum lagoon and kicks the queen from power and attempts to commit mass genocide

#little big planet #littlebigplanet #little big planet 3 #newton pud #marlon random #Lbp 3 is so damn overrated tbh #Its my favourite in the main series I want to sob everytime I see someone dissing it #Its the same with spm #The gameplay may not be that great in comparison to the past 2 games but the story makes up for it #Sobs #My art #Anyways Newton is literally me irl #Newton X Marlon #Marlon X Newton

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onlyzhuyilong · 6 months

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Zhu YiLong’s acting prowess & the different emotional expressions of Shen Wei he conveys during his interrogation scene, and it was constantly changing as he is questioned by 3 different people. But then in the 4th gif is when he’s the most open, earnest, & vulnerable (dare I say?) (because it’s Zhao Yunlan asking him one question - “are you connected to all the other incidents”, and Shen Wei’s face says it all before he even replies with simple “No.” And they just stare at each other in silence until Zhao smiles, gets up and is like “let him go.”

#zhu yilong #朱一龙 #Shen Wei #guardian #镇魂 guardian #镇魂 #沈巍 #my gifs #when I was watching him as Ma Zhe during the interrogations scenes his face would change and emit this emotion that was kinda intoxicating #and I couldn’t help but be reminded of the interrogation scene with Shen Wei (also Lin Nansheng) but this one is just delicious #because in otrf the clip of Ma Zhe interrogating the lady and being confident smooth and even cunning it was like this moment #it’s so random to watch Ma Zhe and suddenly want to do a side by side comparison of Ma Zhe interrogating vs Shen Wei vs Lin Nansheng to see #朱一龍 #주일룡 #please stand by for the queue #I swear the fact he watches himself back on the camera is so important for him to grow and evolve as an actor because he is good #the acting of this man and also why does that one scene in OTRF remind me of this scene idk??? the hotness? maybe

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nocturnalazure · 2 months

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Since it's so difficult to have a height difference in Sims without running into trouble with poses and sliders, here's a quick height comparison for some of my characters.

I used this - Feel free to do it too!

#random #height comparison

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izzyaguecheek · 1 year

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thinking about how in the show Louis kinda got to know Lestat and had a reason to want to be with him for eternity.............. and in the book he just let this random dude off the street turn him into an immortal bloodsucking parasite for no reason other than he was so Sad that his train of thought was kinda "well whatever it won't get any worse than this"

#there was probably more nuance to his decision in the book #but it was so quick and random by comparison to the show lmao #iwtw #interview with the vampire #louis de pointe du lac #lestat de lioncourt

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taeyungie · 2 years

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