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zvtara-was-never-canon · 8 months

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I AM BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST THE FUCKING WALL AND ABOUT TO CRY I'M SO FUCKING MAD I HATE ZKS I HATE ZKS I HATE ZKS

okay, now that THAT is out of the way. I hate how zutarians treat Jet. I get aang, as he is katara's canon love interest and the one she ultimately ends up with. Naturally, this would screw with zks' delusions so, yeah, I can see where the hate is coming from, I understand (though by no means do I endorse it)

BUT JET??? WTF DID HE DO?? He was never a "threat" to zk, because katara ditched the barely a day long crush on him the second she learned about his plan. Was it the fact that he (rightfully!!!) calls out iroh and zuko and is antagonistic of them for not just being fn, but for straight up being fucking ROYALS, WHOSE DIRECT ANCESTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE??

It doesn't matter to zks that jetara was obviously never going to be canon. It doesn't matter to zks that jet's anger is justified. It doesn't matter that jet is probably one of the most tragic characters in the whole fucking franchise, who suffers greatly from war, becomes severely traumatized, loses pretty much everything and on top of that has an "honour" to be one of the few characters who DIES ON SCREEN. It doesn't matter to zks that he's just like katara, sokka and aang - a child permanently scarred by the war.

None of this matters!! He's now a sexist (wut) prick who downplays katara's achievements, toxic, cheats on her (wut) and in some cases just straight up abusive. Basically completely takes over what is usually aang's ""role"" in zks' fewer dreams as katara's abusive ex whom zuko saves her from.

WITH MY WHOLE FUCKING HEART - FUCK ZKS. It's one thing if it's projection and something like that for the sake of smut or whatever. I'm proship, I don't give a flying fuck about 99% of the stuff I see. But this is just a disrespect to Jet's whole character. Why can't they just make up a whole new faceless dude for the role of an abusive ex? Why does it have to be one of the characters, especially ones who were never interested in katara to begin with?!?!

1 - Jet has a lot in common with Zuko, but he is still obviously not the same as Zuko - yet Katara had feelings for him, and not for the fandom's favorite moody boy (and she had WAAAAAY better chemistry with Jet than she ever did with Zuko). Can't have that.

2 - Jet HATES the Fire Nation, which is completely fair (even if his actions in his introduction episode were attrocious). And this fandom, for whatever reason, LOVES to pretend "The Fire Nation totally had a bit of a point" and "Sozin was not an evil man, he just wanted to help people, please forget that he chose to use the comet to wipe out an entire race from the face of the Earth." Jet was always going to be controversial because the fandom would take his (incorrect) way of dealing with his trauma as proof he was 100% pure, while excuse Fire Nation characters that did bad things but had a heart/tragic backstory. Double-standards at it's finest.

3 - He antagonized Iroh and Zuko, two fan favorites. This is, apparently, the worst crime one can commit. As an Azula fan, I should know.

4 - The show was not always fair to Jet either. While they redeemed and KILLED him and the Gaang was clearly upset, the only time he is ever brought up again (without it being a joke) was in the Southern Raiders, and it only mentions the awful behavior he came to regret - not his change of heart. Sure, it was not an innacurate comparison at the moment, but it's unfair that the dude DIED to prove he had changed but is never remembered for anything other than his worst action.

5 - Bryke, unfairly, said anyone who ships Zutara is doomed to have awful, failed relationships for liking such a "dark" ship. They did not like that, and thus double-down on making anyone that had any involvement with Katara be the literal devil in their fics. Unlike Aang, Jet actually DID manipulate Katara once and showed he could get violent towards people with no provocation, so they latch onto that to go "See? OUR ship is not the bad one, THIS is!" completely ignoring Jet's regret, growth, and redemption, as well as Katara's forgivenes.

Anyways, Jet isn't even among my favorite Avatar characters, but Jesus, does the fandom love to crucify that boy for things they'd absolutely forgive characters like Zuko and Iroh for.

#anti zutara #pro jet #pro jetara

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punkeropercyjackson · 4 months

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This is mostly a Zutara shippers problem(ofc it is,they're the root of everything wrong with the fandom and it's been like this since the 2000s)but i've seen it happen often enough with other shippers and it is replacing Aang's place in Zuko's life with whoever they ship him with.I want you to read this and internalize it:I don't care who you think Zuko is in love with because it dosen't matter no matter what-AANG is his best friend.Not Katara,not Sokka,not Jet,AANG.He's the one who saved him from his own inner darkness and Ozai's clutches,he's the one he looks out for the most,he's the one he has the most positive opinion on,he's the one he has the most fun with,he's the one he trusts the most and he's the one he'd choose over anyone else if it came down to it.Not a single one of these things is romantic for them and that's the point.Zuko's number one is Aang and not because he's his s/o but his brother and you have no right to erase his healing journey that's one of the best in all of western media so you can make it about his dating life instead,as if abuse victims can only get better if they 'settle down'.Fuck outta here with your amatonormative and lowkey ableist too bullshit

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jasontoddssuper · 11 months

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A big reason why i hate Zutaras is that you see,i'm a multishipper yeah?So i have no problem with noncanon ships.I think they're super fun and interesting actually!But the problem is Zutaras are always stealing the dynamics of other noncanon ships and passing it off as their own's. Katara isn't the water tribe character that's close friends with Zuko to the point where you'd think they're a bickering couple instead,that's Sokka.Zuko isn't the cool slightly older bad boy that Katara immediately had a huge crush on and who she bonded over being hurt by the Fire Nation's colonization's with,that's Jet.Katara isn't the soft uwu ray of sunshine pastel girl who's also a huge badass that Zuko had a wasted potetional romantic dynamic with,that's Ty Lee.Zuko isn't the black haired rich kid that Katara butted heads with at first over their opposite personalities but quickly became loving but vitriolic besties with,that's Toph.And i wouldn't be surprised if there are even more examples than the ones i listed.Like can't they just ship things that have those relathionships *in canon* instead of acting like obvious two found siblings who never showed interest in eachother that way not being eachother's twu wuv is oppression or whatever(Sadly:The awnser it no)

#anti zutara #katara #zuko #pro katara #katara deserves better #atla geekery #sokka #zukka #jet atla #jetara #ty lee #ty luko #toph beifong #katoph #💌#letters from summer #pro zuko #pop post 🌟

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darklinaforever · 3 months

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I want to say that Jet was incredible in live action! I understood why Katara fell for me in the anime, and I liked her character, even if I never felt any particular attraction to her. But in live action ? Oh it's more than just understanding why Katara has a crush on Jet ! I fall for him with her ! (In anime between Jet and Haru, I was fall for Haru)

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maineventpapiuso · 6 months

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"This match was insane"

#aew #kenny omega #chris jericho #golden jets #paul white #omg #gates of agony #pro wrestling

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survivalove · 6 months

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Isn’t it funny how people’s biggest complaints about ATLA was that the romance was underdeveloped, and now people are claiming that the romance was in fact very present (even in season 1???) that it makes them uncomfortable…. lmaoooo

like I’d like these people to tell me what was even the most romantic episode in season 1 to make them so uncomfortable

#atla fandom problems #pro kataang #did the hug at the north pole scare you?#like girl what #‘aang thought the romance was the main plot’#the same aang that was gallivanting around a tree while katara was clearly crushing on jet #the same aang that almost left katara and sokka behind to find roku #meanwhile katara in season 1 #but i’m not even gonna speak

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lacroixblood · 1 year

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I'm gonna get on my sonic shit again with a concept I love to see, and that is:

Every rival of Sonic just absolutely loving Amy.

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Shadow listening to her rants as they talk over coffee, only to offer the most outrageous advice.

Jet sharing tips and tricks with Amy about gear.

Surge just outright flirting with Amy to annoy Sonic while looking him in the eyes.

Like, just get any rival of Sonic acting super aggressive and not listening to him, only to immediately calm down and get cheery when Amy walks in.

"OH, if that's all then sure."

"But you just said you wouldn't help??!?!"

"Yes but now Amy is asking. That's different"

#girl you can do better #all in all i love amy being chummy with all sonics rivals #esp cuz when she rants about him not picking up on her affections they will just be like #they rant together #i love it #sonic #amy rose #sonic the hedgehog #jet the hawk #shadow the maidenless alpha pro ga(y)mer #surge the tenrec #sonic x #sonic heroes #sonic rivals

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narcisoespiritu · 3 days

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Motor City Comic Con 2024

Dropping by to let ya know I'll be at Motor City Comic Con from 5/17 - 5/19. It's my birthday weekend, so if you're in the Detroit-area stop by, say hello, or give me money for something you're into ok.

Gonna be a lot of stuff there, so take your time

#narciso espiritu #artists on tumblr #motor city comic con #comic con #artist alley #wrestling #pro wrestling #jet set radio #dnd #dnd art #dnd oc #comics #stickers

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ailathemoodentity · 3 months

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Proč PPLko dává číslo na řidiče když to ani nebere???

Jako chápu když řídí ale to nemůže zavolat zpátky po tom co někomu dovolá? 😭

#volali mi a já mělo na potvoru ztlumenej mobil no #tak jsem se chtělo zeptat jestli vubec kurva přijedou #nejsem doma ale je tam mamka a moje bitchass tam prostě nemohlo dát její číslo #zvencnu se #už jsem jim volalo třikrát #pane prosím ja nechci pro ty panty od Ikey jet až za humny #čumblr #Poet_posts

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adventuresinchemistry · 1 year

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Was your university a hedge fund that grants degrees or a pro sports team that grants degrees?

#this is specific to the US #where private schools are hedge funds and big public schools are pro sports teams #this is not a metaphor #it’s actually how our major universities are structured #my BS is from the university equivalent of the NY Jets

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zvtara-was-never-canon · 8 months

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Regarding that other anon bringing up ZK shippers bashing Jet and making him this ooc abusive rapist to Katara; I wonder if Zeets hate Jet because they think he "stole" Zuko's chance of being Katara's bad boy love interest (even though that wasn't the reason Katara was initially attracted to Jet). Also, ZKs probably hate that books two and three had more recurring female characters besides Katara. Suki and Yue weren't much "competition" for fanon Katara in book one being in only a few episodes and Sokka's love interests, but I guarantee you if Zuko had crushes on Toph or Ty Lee or even a returning Suki, they'd get just as much hate from the ZKs as Mai does.

Oh, you have NO IDEA how correct you are. I remember seeing some Zutarians that were cool with Suki as a character and with Zuki as a ship - until that ship started getting some popularity. Not much, but just the slightest possibility of Zutara not being THE "preferable choice" to Maiko made them want heads on spikes.

I've seen PLENTY of anti-Maiko/Mai metas that talk about about how Ty Lee is totally the superior character and better suited for Zuko - and it's just painfully obvious in every single one of them that the reason why they picked Ty Lee as the "totally neutral third choice" is because she is BY FAR the female character Zuko has interacted with the least. They know there's no way the fandom would colectively latch onto that as "the perfect ship that we could have totally had", so it's not really a threat to them and allows them to pretend that their hatred towards Mai is not 100% because she "gets in the way" of their ship.

It REALLY wouldn't surprise me if it was the same with Jet - after all, unlike Jin, he wasn't a one-off character that is never mentioned again. Katara's past interest in him WOULD absolutely make him a threat in their eyes.

#anti zutara #pro maiko #pro mai #pro jet #pro jetara

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punkeropercyjackson · 3 days

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At some point y'all are gonna have to confront the fact that you think brown men are ugly.I go on Atsv pinterest regularly and memes mocking Miguel O'Hara's apperance are an entire genre and it's almost never the funny goofy ahh expressions he's given but just him existing,the Atla fandom is constantly degarding Sokka in contrast to Zuko in terms of appeal and reducing Jet down to sleazebag runner up for Katara(very important note that no Kataang shipper does this and that most Jet stans are also Aang stans),Damian Wayne isn't even a brown man but a lil 15 year brown boy and gets whitewashed in fanon even more than in canon which is saying A LOT for the purpose of making him more attractive by orientalist pedos,Bruno Madrigal is reduced down to a joke and compared to rodents as if he dosen't just look like a normal ass mestizo man-Hell,he looks like my stepdad!!!If you saw him or my neighbours,you'd make a joke to not hurl and i'd punch your teeth out for it

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tomorrowusa · 2 months

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US aid to Ukraine, delayed by pro-Putin House Republicans in the US, has caused European NATO members to speed up their own assistance to the Ukrainians.

Dutch Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren says Ukraine should receive its first F-16 fighter jets this summer as Europe pushes to aid Kyiv amid complications sparked by a stalled aid package in the U.S. Congress. Ollongren told RFE/RL's Ukrainian Service during a visit to Kyiv on March 21 that a plan to deliver 24 F-16s jets is on track, with the first aircraft coming from Denmark. "I think we are on track to see deliveries, first Danish this summer, and then we're going to scale up," she said while declining to give the exact number of planes involved in the first delivery. "We know that we will start with the Danish F-16s, that is now in our planning and in the Ukrainian planning. And in the end, I mean, it doesn't matter anymore. If it's a Dutch or Danish or Norwegian F-16 because [the planes are] going to be Ukrainian." The arrival of the fighter jets will be a long-awaited development to help Kyiv fill a crucial hole in its defense capabilities. Russia has used its more advanced and more numerous jets to repeatedly bomb Ukrainian cities, slow its counteroffensive, and threaten its ships exporting grain crucial to its economic survival, making Kyiv’s acquisition of modern U.S. jets a key ingredient to its successful defense of the country.

There is also talk in Europe of imposing tariffs on Russian grain.

EU eyes tariffs to 'choke off' Russian grain sales

Back in the US, contact your House member and urge support for aid to Ukraine against Putin's genocidal invasion.

With Democrats, thank them for their support; appreciation for previous efforts will encourage them to stay the course. With Republicans, ask them why they are helping one of America's most virulent enemies; tell them that Ronald Reagan would be ashamed of their tacit backing for the Evil Empire.

Find Your Representative

These 18 17 Biden district Republicans are particularly vulnerable.

^^^ 10 of those 17 are from California or New York. Most of those Republicans on that chart are from blue states. This is not something we can dismiss as a red state matter.

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taiwantalk · 28 days

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#the way I see it Iran just realized that Israel is nothing like ukraine or Syria.#Iran thought they’d show Israel how much better that Iran had gotten militarily since 50 years ago #Iran thought they’d avenge on Israel for 6-days war scare the shit out of Israel #to never mess with Iran but they find out that Israel is light years beyond Iran #I’m probably the only one in this world who think there won’t be any escalation #because when israel strike it would be nothing left in iran to fight back #israel will fly nonestop sorties to eliminate any Iranian fighter jets and then hunt down mobile missile launchers and sites of drones #then Israel will completely decimate Iranian industries and infrastructures and send iran back about 3 decades #and israel won’t stop at retaliation #israel will keep striking iran because there’s no Soviet Union to supply iran with more weapons #and israel will get more support if China or North Korea tried to give military aid to iran #I’m not pro war but Iran had completely invited israel to attack iran unlike ever before #israel now has total justification to wage war with iran and not be held accountable for gaza #taiwantalk

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catmemey · 2 years

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thoughts on the demo/Splatoon 3 now that Im back to normal (mostly)

crab tank my absolute beloved, fun to use and just A Friend, literally the best combo of baller, explosher, and dualies

splatana is wonderfully light and mobile, feels great to use, I will probably use it quite a bit if I can get the hang of it

reef slider is so absurdly strong. mows opponents over like you have a roller. big hit box. really fast and you can detonate at any time. all the while you are ALSO completely invincible. amazing. I wont be surprised if it gets nerfed at some point

I think ultra stamp got nerfed??? every time I used it opponents slipped by somehow, when in splatoon 2 the hit box is big enough to smack down everyone within like a foot of the stamp. I dont think I'll use it next game anyways but we'll see

thank you Splatoon devs for giving us the "wipeout" pop up when the other team gets wiped out. I get to booyah evilly with my teammates whenever that happens

Im seeing some folks say that tricolour battles are unbalanced or difficult but honestly they were super fun (and they are quite balanced, more than I expected tbh, it works out to be 4v4) and it just requires thinking about it more strategically than your average turf war battle. if you don't enjoy objective-based modes like this then it's just not going to be your thing and that's fine. small edit: seems like it was really rough for a lot of reasons to be on the defending team and as such I can understand frustration with this Splatfest mode, hopefully they can update it for future ones

#splatoon 3 #splatoon #splatfest 2022 #splatfest world premiere #really enjoy comboing the angle shooter with the splattershot pro to get in 2 hits instead of 1 #and then using crab tank and having so much fun <3 uwu #Im gonna use it a lot. maybe I wont even miss my bubble blower that much maybe #cant wait to use the jet squelch either with the ink vac. I wish there were more weapons in the demo with it

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tomurakii · 1 month

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I truly apologise but I've never found a character more irritating than Ruby Rocks. It is severely impacting my ability to watch a crown of candy because this bratty literally-the-embodiment-of-the-status-quo bitter bastard child won't stop sulking and being shitty to the only good surviving member of this royal bloodline (Saccharina).

The immediate Rocks family in general is so unsympathetic, I'm sorry but if you want me to feel bad over your personal growth journey you can't ALSO be a monarch who has absolute power over an entire nation-state. If you had literally the best education of everyone in your country and you're still an idiot I don't know what to tell you except that you're a resource hoarding pig who has not earned an iota of the power or luxury you have. They have SERVANTS and all they do is complain about going to class or doing their job. Hey if it sucks so bad demolish the state and redistribute your wealth <3 you won't <3

#shes just wrong and a brat. ive found it difficult to sympathise with the monarch characters the whole time but shes the worst of the 3 #i was her age 3 months ago and I've NEVER been as stupid and ignorant and selfish as she is #youre gonna send thousands of your people to die at war over your own petty vendetta??? you grow up in immense privilege and all you do is #complain about the tiny bit of responsibility it comes with but the second someone else (who has worked infinitely harder and suffered #infinitely more) comes along and is willing to take that responsibility you hate her and talk shit and try and turn people against her #because she'll “uphold the status quo” WHERE did you get that from. she has more respect for the people and awareness about the monarchy #than you EVER have. youre a fuckin idiot rich kid. this is game of thrones-themed 1400s monarchy. some 30% of kids die in their first year #barely any of them can read. 90% of your people have experienced the death of their parents or siblings firsthand #but rather than ending the war you're gonna send MORE of them to die fighting the empire over your personal vendetta #saccharina has NEVER been pro church??? she is quite literally only taking the throne to CHANGE the status quo #meanwhile your ass would probably keel over and die after 2 seconds without the luxury that status quo has afforded you your entire life #you dont want to change SHIT. youre just mad it isnt you or your OTHER sister on the throne anymore. your dad is the fuckin EMPEROR #you ARE the status quo. “changing the status quo” means people come and take your house from you brat ass loser. it means they kill your #father. you dont want that youre just making excuses because youre a stupid brat who got oneshotted your first time leaving the castle #because despite 18 years of the best possible education you dont understand simple concepts like “people want to kill royalty”#jet died because she was immature and by god if ruby isnt carrying on her legacy

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