#personhood

[wachinyeya]

#whales #indigenous #indigenous peoples #indigenous activism #new zealand #tahiti #cook islands #personhood #marine biology #marine life #marine animals

[thepro-lifemovement]

Credit: LifeNews

#abortion #prolife #pro life #pro-life #anti abortion #personhood #LifeNews #twitter

[wirsindkrieg]

Person ≠ Human = Person

(For clarity, that title should be read as "Person does not equal Human equals Person".)

I've seen a fair few posts over the years I've been involved in the community where someone gets upset by the use of "people" as an umbrella term, generally also claiming that "person" refers exclusively to humans, and therefore the term excludes non-humans.

That is wrong, and it shows that there is a very important conversation that should be happening but isn't.

First thing's first, [this] is the Wikipedia article on "Personhood". I'm going to recommend reading it in full, but if you don't have time or don't want to, the most relevant parts for this are the opening paragraphs (up to the "Philosophy" header) and the sub-headings "Non-human animals" and "Hypothetical beings", both under the "Debates" heading. Those sections should provide some insight into what I'm going to be talking about here, and give you an idea of that conversation that should be happening.

With that out of the way, let's talk about what it means to be a "person", and why it's wrong to claim that it's synonymous with "human". The state of being a "person" (that is, personhood) is less of a biological classification and more of a social one. A person is someone who is deserving of basic rights and decency, which I would hope we can all agree is not a category exclusive to humans. Exactly where the line between "person" and "non-person" lies has been debated extensively for a very, very long time, but there is at least one solid standard that everyone should be able to agree with:

A person is a sapient, thinking being capable of recognizing itself as being a person.

If you are reading this right now, I'm going to assume that you meet that definition, which makes you a person, and that is a good thing. It means you are a being which deserves basic rights like the ability to engage with society, own property, and exercise your free will. Saying you're not a "person" because you're non-human is saying that you shouldn't get to enjoy those basic rights, and that you should not be included in society and allowed to act as an independent being.

All humans are people, but that does not mean that all people are human. And it's worth noting that declaring categories of humans as not being people has been an important part of excusing the removal of basic rights from them. You see it in the way that slaves were talked about prior to the practice being outlawed, and in the way that fascists talk about the groups that they think should be killed en masse. Declaring those groups as not being "people" dehumanizes them, not because being a person means being human, but because being human means also being a person.

There very clearly needs to be an ongoing conversation in the community about non-human personhood, because it is a topic with a long history, with strong points made in favour of including all manner of non-humans under the umbrella of "person". This ongoing trend of declaring oneself to not be a person because of non-humanity is, put bluntly, foolish at best and actively dangerous at worst. Everyone has personhood. It came free with your being a sapient being, capable of thought and self-reflection.

And bonus conversation topic: The reason that anti-kin and related groups do the whole, "Oh, you're not human? Does that mean I can treat you like an animal?" bit is because they don't see non-humans as having personhood. Consider how it would affect how they approach our communities if they were open to the concept of non-human personhood, and how that could further benefit the community as a whole.

Discuss.

#personhood #non-humanity #non-human personhood #otherkin #therian #were #alterhuman #nonhuman #non-human #rant/rave

[secularprolifeconspectus]

Personhood thoughts.

#hide #anti abortion #pro life #prenatal justice #personhood

[apenitentialprayer]

Pope Francis’s December 2023 Prayer Intention: For People with Disabilities

God, Our Father, the throwaway culture that is widespread in our time does not consider the human person as something most valuable; that must be respected and protected, especially in they are poor or disabled people. We ask today for the inclusion of all those who have physical or mental limitation. Help us promote a culture of life that continually affirms the dignity of each person, and in particular the defense of people with disabilities. May inclusion be the rock on which civil institutions build programs and initiatives, so that no one is left behind. Amen.

detail from the cover of The Bible, Disability, and the Church: A New Vision of the People of God.

#Christianity #Catholicism #prayers #prayer request #disability #personhood #destitution #human dignity #My Pope

[the-sappho-of-lesbos]

Source: The Safe Sea Of Women; Lesbian Fiction 1969 ~ 1989 - By Bonnie Zimmerman

This Passage: Sister Outsider by Audre Lorde

#audre lorde #intersectional feminism #black lesbian history #black lesbian positivity #lesbian history #lgbt activism #quote #personhood #image #lgbt #lesbian #personal

[dank-pro-life-memes]

#gayprolifememes #dankprolifememes #abortion #pro life #pro choice #human rights #personhood #fascism

[mxmalvern]

This pristine Canadian river has legal personhood, a new approach to conserving nature

#hopepunk #personhood #ecology #river spirit

[blackswaneuroparedux]

Une fille doit être deux choses : qui elle est et ce qu'elle veut.

- Coco Chanel

#chanel #coco chanel #quote #french #femme #identity #feminine #beauty #desire #personhood #character

[forphysicsandimagination]

I keep thinking about two lines from two pieces of media I like. They’re said in different tones and in way different contexts, but they fit together for me so strongly:

“But I’m not a girl. I’m a shark!” - Nimona from the movie “Nimona”

“It would make it harder for me to pretend not to be a person.” - Murderbot from “Artificial Condition”

Nimona is a shapeshifter. She can turn into anything she wants and she does it instinctively, effortlessly. She claims over and over that she’s not a girl or a boy or anything for long. She’s Nimona. And that’s what she says when people ask what she is. I desperately want that freedom. That fluidity of my body. The ability to look however I want and change it save for one or two key features.

Murderbot is a construct comprised of robotic parts and artificially grown tissue. It’s sexless and genderless and has expressed distain at being forced into human categories regarding either of those things. It’s severely autistic coded and thinks humans are dumb and it doesn’t *want* to be a person. Not in the way humans want to. It hates being perceived more than anything. I don’t want people to look at me or notice my existence. I don’t want to be a person either. I want to be a masked construct, just out of the perception of others and not really thought of as a being.

I’m going through some sort of identity and gender crisis and I’m not sure if I’m a girl. And all I can think of are these two characters who emphatically don’t want to be what people say they are and think they are. I want to be like them. And it’s confusing because there are feminine things I love and I’ve been a girl for so long that I don’t really know anything else. And I’m a scientist; I need data to compare to and I have nothing. I just keep going back to these two characters, wishing I was either of them. Not really a girl. Not a boy either. Just me, whoever the hell that is.

#gender #murderbot #nimoma #identity confusion #personhood #or lack there of #if anybody has any insight #please share #this is scary

[pratchettquotes]

Dorfl remained impassive.

Carrot nodded. "Anyway, you're free to go. What happens now is up to you. I'll help you if I can. If a golem is a thing then it can't commit murder, and I'll still try to find out why all this is happening. If a golem can commit murder, then you are people, and what is being done to you is terrible and must be stopped. Either way, you win, Dorfl." He turned back and fiddled with some papers on his desk. "The big trouble," he added, "is that everyone wants someone else to read their minds for them and then make the world work properly. Even golems, perhaps."

Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay

#carrot ironfoundersson #dorfl #feet of clay #discworld #terry pratchett #golems #people #selfhood #identity #personhood #law enforcement #logic #philosophy #murder #guilt #trouble #mind reading #make the world work properly #someone else do it

[rjzimmerman]

Excerpt from this story from NPR:

The indigenous leaders of New Zealand, Tahiti, Tonga and the Cook Islands have signed a treaty granting whales legal personhood.

It's a step Māori conservationist Mere Takoko says will pressure governments to do more to help the large sea mammals.

"What we're trying to achieve here is to provide whales with certain rights," Takoko told Morning Edition. "Those rights include the right to freedom of movement, natural behavior, development, cultural expression – which includes language – to a healthy environment, healthy oceans, and indeed the restoration of their populations."

Takoko leads Hinemoana Halo Ocean Initiative, the New Zealand-based group that spearheaded the treaty.

She says the treaty lays the groundwork for legislation to be written to protect the whales, or, as the Māori call them, tohorā — the sacred ancestors of indigenous Polynesians.

Without tohorā ,Takoko says, the web of all marine life would collapse.

Heidi Pearson is a professor of marine biology at the University of Alaska Southeast in Juneau. She says that because whales are migratory, traversing vast areas of the ocean, they are especially vulnerable to the effects of climate change – like the possibility of more marine heatwaves.

"When I'm asked what the main threats are to whales, I usually say four things," Pearson said. "Climate change, ship strikes, fisheries entanglement and noise pollution."

#whales #personhood

[judasskiss]

#art #collage #poster #posters #my art #existentialism #personhood #loneliness #my writing

[sophieinwonderland]

Is there a single other disorder where you're treated as ableist for believing the disabled person over the psychiatrist?

Here we have a post called "stopping the stigma" that claims saying people have DID have multiple people inside of them is ableist and stigmatizes DID.

At the same time, their own source notes that people with DID feel as if they have two or more entities.

And as I've noted before, personhood itself is a philosophical matter more than a psychological one. For instance, most alters would absolutely fit John Locke's interpretation of personhood as "a thinking intelligent Being, that has reason and reflection, and can consider it self as itself, the same thinking thing in different times and places."

This comes down to a matter of personal philosophy as to what makes a person a person.

And that makes it so weird to cede the right to define personhood to singlet doctors who never actually experienced the disorder themselves, and are forming theories entirely based on what they observe from the outside.

This comes down to a choice of two groups.

Group 1 is made up of people with DID, mostly trauma survivors, and typically reports feeling like there are multiple entities they share a body with.

Group 2 is made up of singlets who, while studying the disorder on the outside, have no personal experience with it. They've listened to patients, but they haven't felt or experienced it themselves. This group claims the first group's personal philosophy is invalid.

And that leads us to the cringizens and similar fakeclaimers who take this a step further to say that anyone who believes the first group, the group that actually has DID, is being ableist and stigmatizing the disorder.

Which bring me back to the question at the top. "Is there any other disorder where your treated as ableist for believing the experiences of people with the disorder?"

Because I can't think of one.

And personally, I'd rather believe people about their own disorders.

Actual ableism is deciding that you know people's experiences better than they know themselves.

Also, as a bonus, here's this user's response to the pluralkit accusations.

#syscourse #pro endo #pro endogenic #personhood #psychiatry #psychology #philosophy #multiplicity #sysblr #systemscringe #r/systemscringe #hate groups #hate group #ableism #ableists

[apenitentialprayer]

Jesus encounters each soul, not as a representative of a group, but as an irreducibly individual moral being.

John Burdick (Blessed Anastácia: Women, Race, and Popular Christianity in Brazil, page 123)

#Christianity #Pentecostalism #Jesus Christ #redemption #love #agape #mysticism #personhood

[i-merani]

#is this a common realization or am i just overthinking #i need to use some tag for these exact template lol #me when #girls when #memes #personhood #mine