#ok maybe not if alternate timeline theory is right but still

[destinyesque]

#link click #ok so that scene. my first thought was 'damn thats kinda gay ngl' and my second thought was 'he couldve done like. anything else' #ok maybe not if alternate timeline theory is right but still #the cops already know he has superpowers he couldve told them that cxs was in danger and just like. driven like a normal person #but no he had to do all that. in cat pajamas no less #probably ripping all of his stitches #the next ep is gonna open w lg passing out bc he reopened his stab wounds #lg is so fucking stupid n i love that about him #lu guang #cheng xiaoshi #shiguang

[episodeoftv]

Prelims, Vote 3 of 8

The top 4 finales will move on to be included in the main bracket

Propaganda is under the cut, may include spoilers

Blake's 7 - 4.13 Blake

Technically, the episode is a very, very good one. Hell, I wouldn't wish for a different finale, to be honest. It's perfect, in its own "What the actual hell!?" way, and it does wonders for the show's themes of doomed struggle. The problem with it is that it was intended to be just a *series* finale, not the *show's* finale, so it ends on an extremely high-stakes cliffhanger. It's fantastic, it's scary, it's heartbreaking, you want more, you want to see it resolved... and the show was cancelled after the fourth series. So all we have is an extremely bleak ending with all but one character presumed dead and that damned last smile in the face of overwhelming odds in a completely hopeless situation.

Castle Rock (2018) - 1.10 Romans

When this show was coming out I was still deep in my Stephen King hyperfixation so needless to say I was *stoked*. But man this was one of the most underwhelming things I've watched. With episodes released weekly we had two months of people going insane with theories, new revelations, Stephen King fans digging up their old books to pick for scraps of hints that could explain what's going on, every week there were new video essays and analyses of the new episode, subreddit buzzing with the wildest theories about who is this mysterious character of The Kid who's kicked the whole plot in motion and what the hell is going on with the seemingly cursed town. And then the finale came and just. Nothing. Everything went back to square one. The Kid is locked back up in the same cage he was originally found in. Nothing was explained. Everyone moves on as if nothing happened. After two months of Castle Rock being the main focus of all of my free time this completely took the wind out of my sails and I completely lost interest in the show and honestly, soon almost forgot it even existed. When the second season came out I didn't watch even the first episode, even though the second season *might* have explained everything, I simply didn't care enough to find out anymore. And from what I've seen, others have felt the same way because since the first season ended I haven't really seen anyone talk about the show.

Chilling Adventures of Sabrina - 4.08 Chapter Thirty-Six: At The Mountains of Madness

Ok so in fairness this entire final season sucked but the real kicker is that in the final scene we learn that after the main character died, her love interest killed himself in order to be with her in the afterlife. Yeah, a teenager committed suicide and we were supposed to see that as a happy ending.

Choukou Senshi Changerion - 1.39 Over the Times...

It's the last episode, which means no new information or worlds should be introduced, right? WRONG. Inoue (the main writer) decided that, for this last episode, we should see into an alternate (maybe, perhaps) timeline alongside the regular content. The bad guys are coming, except our main guy is starting to go down and remembering all the things that have happened, as well. And then it just ends. On an explosion, of course. Roll Credits!

The Get Down - 5.11 Only from Exile Can We Come Home

rushed to complete the show and low on budget, the writers sent every character besides the protagonist (zeke) to their worst possible fate. shao, finally free and with the person he loved, was coerced to return to the sexually abusive woman who had been his boss since he was a child. dizzee is implied to have been struck by a train after breaking his boyfriend out of prison for graffiti. and boo-boo, the 14 year old, is arrested for selling drugs. in some ways its thematically appropriate, but the unrelenting viciousness of the end of each character's story is sudden, deeply tonally jarring, and leaves the audience feeling despondent and hopeless even with the main character surviving to sing it all as an adult and his love interest finding success as a singer, albeit far away in another city. tgd is an excellent show, but besides being cancelled, the big kicker for it was that the romantic lead mylene didn't hit for a lot of people, and watchers who preferred shao and zeke to get together due to having such strong chemistry and a well-developed bond probably had a very different experience than the writers had intended. mylene is a fine character and she's unfairly disliked by a lot of watchers, but her romance with zeke was simply not as well developed as shao's and zeke's relationship was

Grimm - 3.22 Blond Ambition

It forgoes the usual: 'there is a scary wesen that is causing problems and we can solve this' formula to pay off other plot points, but it kinda makes the episode feel less tethered. The focus is a wedding between supporting characters, whilst a former finale villain is just stalking around town and also a (corrupt) FBI agent is preparing to make his move. Both make their moves and the results are kinda lame. The agent is almost immediately beheaded rendering his active threat moot. And the other villain disguised herself as the MC's girlfriend and sleeps with him. The only major points are the wedding, a police captain getting shot (glossed over here but become relevant next season), the FBI agent dying (it starts a dull investigation next season), and the MC losing his power right at the end (which led to one of the worst periods in the show until he regains his powers...)

Jane the Virgin - 5.19 Chapter One Hundred

No propaganda submitted

#prelim #wfprelim #wfpoll #poll #polls #blake's 7 #castle rock #chilling adventures of sabrina #choukou senshi changerion #the get down #grimm #jane the virgin

[teabreaking]

ok… i think it’s time for a genshin theory that is really, really out there…but here me out please!

(long post/ramble under cut)

@fitzkn suggested that if someone completely loses the traits that got them their vision in the first place, maybe it would it deactivate their vision entirely

and that’s when it hit me. even though we’ve seen the reverse happen through the vision hunt decree (people having their visions stolen and then losing all of their ambitions and dreams as a result)… i don’t think we’ve ever seen someone lose all of their traits that earned them a vision. in fact, it seems like the characters retain those traits NO MATTER WHAT, and in some cases, to an obsessive degree. and the more i think about it, the more strange this pattern seems

here are just a few examples:

- noelle obtained her vision with a desire that she would one day become a real knight, one who is reliable and kind. despite numerous failed attempts at the selection test, she would continue to pursue this goal, even in the current timeline

- razor got his vision in his (failed) attempt to protect his lupical, and since then he has dedicated so much effort to training (with his claymore and his vision) to become stronger so he can protect his family

- even though amber’s grandfather has been gone for 4 years with no signs of ever showing up again, her drive to become the best outrider she can be with the hopes of one day figuring out what happened to him never wavered

- despite the fact that her situation has changed for the better over the years, eula still follows that ‘gentle path of revenge that was hers alone’ that she began to follow under the guidance of amber’s grandfather

- ganyu got her vision what? right after the end of the archon war. and to this day she continues to serve the government in liyue and act as a bridge between adepti and mortals without fail

at first glance, nothing about this seems wrong. they’re all ambitious people, of course they’d try harder than the ordinary person to achieve their goals and follow their dreams. in a lot of cases, that’s why they got their visions in the first place.

but ask yourself this: is too much ambition focused on one thing necessarily good? even a highly focused person could have many different dreams and ambitions, right?

are they vision havers because they’re ambitious, or are they ambitious because they’re vision havers? or, alternatively, do visions BOOST ambition that already exists in a person, and forces it to hyper focus on one thing almost exclusively? hmmmm… 🧐

this creates a double-edged sword for the vision user: they become extremely focused, overachieving, talented, powerful, etc… but in the case where they lose their vision (seen with the vision hunt decree) they also loose all of the ambition, in theory because it is directly linked to their vision the moment it is obtained

this also benefits celestia when you really think about it… maybe humanity is less likely to successfully rebel against the gods if they’re focused so intensely on other matters. maybe this is how they’ve managed to keep everyone in line for so long: by gifting powers, they are also able to create a distraction. one that effectively neutralizes the most powerful, resilient, and ambitious people out there (those who are at the highest risk of going against the heavenly principles and therefore causing disorder/chaos in the eyes of celestia)…

#i have more to say but this post is already so long and i’m tired #but if anyone can think of anything to add feel free to !! #or correct any mistakes i may have added in here #this is all just speculation and i’m sure plenty of people have touched on this before #but this idea just popped in my head and it’s gonna make me go crazy

[alpona]

Link click: Theory & questions:

*all spoilers for season 1 !*

Just What how why everything? Lol. Every question I can ask will be deliberately left out plot point, meant to be slowly revealed. But let's get on with some anyway.

Most of my theories will be surrounding Lu guang, as he's the one mc shrouded in mystery. And he's totally not my favourite character and absolutely not pretty 😝

1. Lu guang is hiding something, or more like a lot of things. Duh. Everyone knows that.

He radiates this aura as if he's already... Guilty of something? And certainly carrying some burden (the burden of knowledge for sure, But more than that.)

I feel like he's on a mission of some sort. The business they're doing can't simply be for business. It's like.... A training session....? Is Lu guang training Cheng? In Preparation of a bigger, dangerous, life altering mission?

2. Is Lu guang somehow connected to Cheng xiaoshi's parents disappearance, at least knows something about it? I'm theorising this because of the guilt I sense from Lu guang.

What happened to the parents is a big question already, duh, very likely related to the timey whimey stuff (hey I'm still using the term! Hehe it's too perfect)

3. Ahem, what, I mean who is Lu guang anyway? (Or really what) sometimes I feel like he's already time traveling. Him being from the future is a popular theory.

His age is weirdly left unknown, thats also a big point.

He's possessing his younger self??

From Alternate timeline?

Is he actually xiaoshi (and qiao ling's) son from the future?  😂 it's almost scary how it kinda makes sense to me. Maybe xiaoshi died or disappeared or got lost in a dive.

4. Power mechanism. Still don't know how their powers work, since when, rarity of such ability, etc etc.

Lu guang probably can do more than we've seen.

5. What are the odds of 2 people with complimentary powers randomly meeting each other?

From the little we've seen of their backstory, I feel like Lu guang purposefully came to xiaoshi, their meeting wasn't any coincidence. Ties in with the mission theory.

6. Someone on YouTube said that 'maybe our protagonists knew each other beforehand in a different timeline, but something happened that caused only xiaoshi to forget everything. Thus lu guang's reason for being more knowledgeable. - very nice theory! I'd like to extend it, maybe xiaoshi died or disappeared in another timeline, thus Guang feels guilty. Thus his protectiveness and understanding behaviour. Hesitant to approach xiaoshi n start this business but couldn't help it either.

And not just to Xiaoshi, he's also quite protective of Qiao ling. Maybe something happened to her too... (Future son theory intensifies!!!)

7. Lu guang is seen to get tired while using his powers, right? When he's guiding xiaoshi for hours. He often takes naps on the couch at random times and sets up alarm to wake up at right times. Ok, I of all people should consider this a totally normal thing to do, do u need excuse to nap ahem ahem... And especially when you're 'watching a mundane movie through your mind's eye', of course it's tiring. But sadly (and fortunately) not everyone is Opshee, so the way it is shown, this can also mean that using luguangs powers are taxing. Low energy high intelligence.

8. The villain/antagonist, red eyes. Yeeeaah, so who that, what that? Should I even ask such obvious question, that's what season 2 will be about 😆 but I can state my theories beforehand.

That's not just a person, but more like....karma? Time police? A supernatural force that punishes everyone who messes with time? A being without even a solid body.... Woooo that'd be hard to deal with!

- wait, he did say something like being an 'agent' in last episode? Wonky translations, so not sure. But the original title of this show literally translates to 'time agent' apperantly, so......? Actual time police possible??

- or in simpler case, another person with similar powers to our mcs. Who's just a psycho. Wow so simple.

How his or her powers work is another question.

- is that person time traveling? Or just possessing people in present time? It should be time related to make it cooler n match our protagonist's powers, but there were scenes where it can be intercepted as just normal possession ability.

But then he can't be time police type....nah. I'll stick with 1st theory.

9. Obesvation: in episode... 6 maybe, there's a little scene at the police station, one of the serial killer victim's file/page went missing.

That has to mean something later. Maybe.... A police is related?

The assistant police, forgot his name, could he be the main villain? Dun dun duuuun!

10. Lu guang's watch. ...just, something seems to be there about it. It's highlighted more in the chibi shorts. That is related to something of his backstory.

11. Lu guang's platinum blonde hair, actually kinda stands out considering most people has the natural brown/black. Well, I wouldn't even think anything of it cuz, anime world! 😄 Multicolor hair is soooo common to us, especially when Lu guang n Xiaoshi are designed with complimentary black-white aesthetic. It just makes sense. But it kinda caught my attention from their university flashback scene... Lu guang was wearing a hat. It just felt like he was sort of embarrassed about his unnatural hair...?? Then my galaxy brain thought this has something to do with his mysterious background as well. A side effect of time travel? Future theke আসতে গিয়ে? Time travel makes your hair white? Lol

(Eeeeeeverything about Lu guang is sus. What's next opshee? Lu guang's shoes are suspicious too? His white shirt too?)

12. ..... I'll just clearly state my wildest n craziest theory here - Lu guang is Cheng Xiaoshi and Qiao ling's son from the future. 😶

I have no reason or proof or argument for this, and I'm embarrassed, but it just keeps making sense somehow?!

( this note has been sitting on my phone for almost a year, but now that we have season 2 airdate, I better post this now, and let's all brainstorm about these!)

#shi guang dai li ren #link click #lu guang #cheng xiaoshi

[akashiayakashi]

Idk if it's too soon to write down all my thoughts because I don't know how much I've processed about this game but I prefer going right at it anyway hahahaha

Okay. so.

I think expectations worked well in favor of the sequel than when I played the first game.

When I went into aitsf, I think I was expecting more than one mystery, not that kinda crass humour, more gameplay. basically smth like ace attorney or danganronpa. i guess i was initially disappointed bc i didnt like 999 or just the zero escape trilogy in general. I honestly thought it was gonna be an L for me until I finally actually got my first ending and went through the other routes.

The strength of ai is in its mystery and how it fools the player and the detective through the limited point of view. Not pun intended since you know, they only see through one eye technically, but there were a lot of hints pointing to obvious truths that are so easy to dismiss until the truth is revealed.

My mind was like WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING a lot of the time but in a good way.

I think a big reason I didn't like 999 was that I just felt so unconvinced by the conclusion and that the development didn't feel enough whereas in ai it does a good job of linking everything together in a way that doesn't feel like a cop-out. I mean 999 gave foreshadowing but the sci-fi elements didn't feel very REAL until the end, it was more of ok fun theory i guess and then suddenly SCI FI HEAVY ENDING. Ai is more like hi we're technologically advanced and we're very silly so there's a lot of space for your suspension of disbelief.

well i'm sure that's a personal thing a lot of others would disagree with but for me that's a core reason why i did like ai.

i also thought that the dynamics in ai in general were just a lot stronger and better formed (but this is not a 999 hate post i swear so i will get on with it).

ANYWAY.

since i could curb those expectations with aini and sorta knew what i was getting into going in, i could enjoy it a lot more from beginning to end. i could just get lost in the BIG mystery and not worry about the what ifs and just think of all the alt routes as ultimately serving the true ending.

also omg i didnt love the ui in ai because i didnt know you had to keep interacting until you had to stop interacting, which just didnt seem obvious to me because huh the convo is done right why are we not moving on but no the convo was not done. i knew that going in now so i didnt feel as annoyed hahaha

aini is a lot more structured and well it's by design by the time you find out how fucked the timelines are. to be honest it's still hard to wrap my mind around it.

needless to say i was losing it when we were in that one bibi part where im like WE ARE MIZUKI BUT THIS IS CLEARLY 6 YEARS AGO WTF IS HAPPENING LOOK DATE IS RIGHT THERE ALSO WHY ARE THE SPRITES LIKE THAT

The last somnium with Amame was sooooo good like it uses her previous lightning round quiz show questions where it just seemed like kinda random questions to actually show all the choices Amame had to make in the end. It's even more impressive once you realize OH SHIT THIS WAS JUST A FEW DAYS AGO NOT 6 YEARS AGO like what you initially thought.

Though her story is so tragic...

Tbh it is pretty funny how it became a shounen final boss battle in the last part. It's very silly but I think it's fitting for protags like Mizuki and Mizuki...idk how to explain but they have the protag energy. Date was more low-key so him having that kinda ending where he had to let go of Aiba instead was a lot more fitting.

IDK THE POINT OF MAKING US THINK RYUKI DIED WHY DID THEY DO THAT. I was like: ok this was a good end but ryuki died so maybe i will opt for the alternate route thing i've been hearing about bc ryuki is alive. well i know the point of it, it's just a suspense thing they wanted to do but it wasn't really as dramatic as aiba's self-destruction which was the climax of that end scene.

I wanna hate that they claim that Date is just wearing a mask the whole time. I mean I GET IT IT'S FOR NO SPOILERS and like the story is not about Date but like we went through so much in the first game and we get this very convenient explanation....it's not a focal point but I thought it would be a big deal and it wasn't jxfvbjd

The secret not so secret ending was so meta hahaha. It sorta proves the ideology naix and shigure had but this was also only possible because it's a game. So it makes you think these people obviously don't think of themselves as game characters so how about you? Are you living in the real world or the simulation? I don't believe in those sorta conspiracy theories but I like how it just tied it all together.

I didn't do the joke end of atami(?) but the mere existence of it is funny lmao.

oh right the cast

i love ryuki but i think the boy has gone through some shit and needs a hug... i dont really ship him with tama but i guess the main difference between him and the aiba partnerships is that tama seems to not take ryuki seriously and to be doing her own thing at first glance but she is actually very indulgent of him and lets him do what he wants. she is also fiercely protective which is why ryuki couldnt share any of his burdens during the past 6 years.

i understand bibi hating him but im sorry i'm a ryuki apologist bibi

omg i was so excited to see adult shoma and then i went WHY DOES HE LOOK THE SAME but wow that was actually a plot point dfvdfvd i like his lil crush on mizuki but i dont see mizuki reciprocating any time soon...she just seems uninterested in romance HAHAHA

i feel like gen existed just for amame so he feels more like an extension of amame that existed to help her than his own character which is partly why im just kinda hmmm on him. sad he died in that one ending...which kinda sucks because everyone else had happy stuff in their endings in contrast. i guess it didn't pull my heart strings enough bc we dunno how amame and gen even became friends and everything so it feels like we're seeing this strong love but without the background of how it came to be.

in contrast we saw from the start how the lien and kizuna thing developed. i dont really ship them but i think how they turned out was sweet. i was initially very meh with the idea that lien just doesnt know how to take a no but well ig the story at least showed us he wasnt creepy like uh ota or moma so he gets an upgrade in my book as 'you're ok'

the shoma & komeji ending was the first i got and it was really sweet and it makes the reality of the true timeline sadder because the last thing komeji hears either of his children say to him before he gets sliced is that they're disappointed in him

but they actually loved him very much

which is to say the secret ending...ryuki gets the burden of knowledge even though everything is 'happier' but idk how it would do him good to just live in this perfect world we chose for him instead. we saved him going thru the bad 6 years but he has the knowledge that they existed in the first place. anyway some real fun meta shit they did.

the ryuki obsession with date wasn't enough methinks. i just dont feel convinced, it just seems like he feels guilty because he knows what he did which fair enough sure but everybody gave me the impression he was obsessed since the start so i felt disappointed in that regard

not enough date tbh or rather not enough date in the way i would have prefered hahahaha. like i wanted a more dramatic reunion with mizuki and/or aiba

i mean they were finally happy then 6 years of date just gone...wtf mizuki keeps getting Ls in her life

also ig bc as an aiba/date shipper i just felt deprived but im ok. i really am. i reallly am

oh right one thing i do want to commend on aini is how its somniums are just so much more logically driven so they're more fun to solve. it doesnt feel like the strange randomness of the first game where you just have to somehow hope you're doing the right thing. there is still randomness but it feels hmmm like there is more sense in the overall somnium than the past game

i probs have more thoughts but i kinda just kept playing and playing for like 20 hours and im sure if i had any thoughts during i forgot to write them down dxfvbdfcvj but i'll probs remember if im asked very specific things

if there will be another game, i will for sure buy and play but can we no longer have separation of date and mizuki + aiba? tnx.

#fandom tots #aini #spoilers

[willel]

Ok, last random post for the night. This whole Vecna thing, one of the episode titles.

TLDR: This Vecna situation. "Vecna", I believe, WAS a person from an alternate Hawkins...? In an alternate Hawkins, maybe they were the prized experiment in a lab somewhere (001, who goes unmentioned in all alternate media). A psychic so unnaturally powerful (and abused/hurt like El and Kali were) they destroyed their own world?

Something once human that probably can no longer speak words, destroyed their version of the world long ago and is looking for a new place to call home?

Ok so, you can read the rest now if you want. It's sloppy, long, and probably wrong. Lol. I'm just trying to think through this. If you read all this, you're a champ. I'm totally up to discussion afterwards as well. So here it goes below!

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I hadn't heard of it till now, but I'm happy to see it's yet another dnd monster. Last season there was hardly any ties to dnd or the Montauk Project unlike previous two seasons.

I think they may be going back to their roots. So what is Vecna?

Vecna (pronounced: /ˈvɛknɑː/ VEK-nah[1]) was a once-human lich from Oerth who ascended to godhood.

As a deity, Vecna did not claim a domain, but instead wandered the entire multiverse.[15] He maintained the Citadel of Cavitius, originally on the Quasi-Elemental Plane of Ash near the border to the Negative Energy plane, which he had wrested away from the Doomguard long before.[16] The Citadel was used by Vecna as his fortress, which he visited regularly, to gloat on the despair of his defeated enemies.[12] Later, it became his prison as it was drawn into the Domains of Dread by the Dark Powers.

So, I don't believe this has anything to do with the Mind Flayer/Demogorgon/Demodogs, at least, not in dnd canon. But neither does the Demogorgon and Mind Flayer, or the Mind Flayer and an army of doggos. So it's fine and not new.

If I had to guess where they're going with this, Vecna IS the Mind Flayer, but the Mind Flayer and all it smoky glory is more like a projection. A tool which Vecna uses to do whatever. Whether it's controlling its weirdo beasts, possessing people, moving flesh, etc.

I'm assuming the theory that the Upside Down is an alternate universe of sorts is true. The Hawkins we see in the Upside Down is just another Hawkins on a different plane of existence, one that whoever Vecna is originates from or they just dominated it? One that ended earlier?

The part about "later became his prison" is also interesting. It kind of lines up with past seasons. The Mind Flayer does act like it's stuck there and is trying to get out in any way possible doesn't it?

We've been wondering all this time what the Mind Flayer wanted. If something is trapped there, like Vecna, then they'd want to well. Escape. Like a "Crap. I really messed up this world. But at the same time I don't really care to fix it. Onto the next!"

It says he's well versed in multiverses. He can hop to whatever dimension he wants if circumstances are right. Maybe he HAS done that plenty of times, but this time was the first time he was met with his match? (El slamming the door in his smokey face, his chosen vessel Will being rescued)

When I first got into this fandom right after season 2's release, people were still speculating about the other numbers. The comics didn't exist yet, but as time went on, there was something mysterious about the numbers. #1 was never mentioned I think. Not even in the comics. (granted, I stopped reading most of them a while ago so I could be wrong).

If we're toying with multiverses here, the idea that the smallest decisions can have a butterfly affect and change the future, well, who is to say every other possible timeline of Hawkins happened the same way?

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Let me slow down here. I did mention it seems to be going back to their roots. The original Montauk Project Conspiracy theory.

I haven't read the Montauk Project, most of my knowledge comes from articles and summaries by smarter people than I. So let's go over it a little bit huh? (I'll link the article in a reblog, if I link it here, tumblr will hide this post from the tags)

The Montauk Project is a huge government conspiracy crafted by a few old strange guys.

Sound familiar? Stranger Things (and many Hollywood movies) have taken bits of pieces of this conspiracy and crafted them into their sci-fi/horror stories. Stranger Things shares so many similarities to the original conspiracy theory that some guy claimed the Duffers Brothers stole the idea from him (even though when you read the script the only similarities they have are from the Montauk Project, just like every other Hollywood movie that borrows from it)

Every theory I've made for Stranger Things, mostly involving Will's potential powers, is based on this conspiracy. There's still some information I was told by someone else second hand that I can't find in these articles so I guess someday I'll have to read it and get the reference myself. Urg.

Let's go over the similarities and why I think the Vecna plot is taken from the Montauk Project conspiracy.

Abducted children: Unsurprising, a key part of the conspiracy is about how kids were abducted. The conspiracy focused on how boys were the desired subjects but that's boring so I'm glad ST ditched that (also, weird Nazi "aryan race genes" bullshit)

Portals: Another similarity are portals to alternate dimensions and timelines. There's some time travel shenanigans that I THINK ST dropped. But with the 1950's era of the 003 trailer, who can say.

A device to enhance powers: This was kind of dropped after season 1, but found its way into the story in other ways. In the Montauk Project conspiracy, they have a device to enhance the powers of their psychic children. A chair. They strap em into the chair and can do various things. Their prized subject, "Duncan" was the one powerful enough to open portals and all that using the chair. The ST equivalent is "The Bath", the silence/static El uses to hone her powers.

Remote Viewing: This is another power El has that is referenced in the conspiracy. Specifically that, “...‘The Seeing Eye.’ With a lock of a person’s hair or other appropriate object in his hand, Duncan could concentrate on the person and be able to see as if he was seeing through their eyes, hearing through their ears, and feeling through their body. He could actually see through other people anywhere on the planet.” This, imo, is more similar to Will's true sight, but I think it's meant to be El's powers.

Summoning a monster: In the Montauk Project conspiracy, they use their prized subject, "Duncan", to summon some kind of beast. The concept is similar to what happened in ST, but El summoned the Demogorgon by accident (as did her captors). In the Montauk Project, it seems as though they summoned the monster on purpose to have an excuse to shut down the experiments.

NOW WITH THAT ALL SAID AND DONE, I'd like to get to a few things that aren't in ST that I think is related to Vecna.

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References to leaving people in other dimensions:

Quick note, I am NOT going to touch the certain abuse allegations mentioned above.

Here you can see a reference to the idea of leaving people (in this case, defenseless children) in the portals and some of them never returning.

The power to manifest things out of thin air:

This is not what El does in season 1. She accidentally opens a portal and a monster happened to be on the other side.

Psychic Powers can be jammed:

This is taken right from the Montauk book. Weren't there references to Will and El hearing things in season 4? It may just be related to this.

Aliens:

Yeah. There's talk about "grey aliens" and how they were the ones that originally kidnapped the children and delivered them to the government I guess??? (the reason I haven't read these books is because overall they make no goddamn sense. lol). I mean, I guess the demogorgon resembles a gray alien right??

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Sigh. Alright alright. So. It's time for me to try and tie all this together. Bare with me. Are you still along for the ride? Let's try to craft a stupid theory together!

First, let me say this. I love the small town feel in horror movies and sci-fi movies. I don't think this theory breaks that mold, not entirely.

Think of some "horror" movie classics. You got the supernatural horror from Poltergeist. Or the sci-fi horror of The Thing.

In both these stories there's a bigger world, a bigger plot affecting our main characters that they don't totally understand (or don't live long enough to see it through)

In Poltergeist, it was essentially the realm of the spirits who pulled Carol-Anne into their dimension and her mother had to go in and save her. (among the other crazy stuff that happened in that movie). It's very similar to season 1. We don't even see the spirit realm in the movie unlike the Upside Down.

Then you've got The Thing. It's literally an alien story. A horrifying intelligent alien trying to get to a large population of people to spread and spread and spread and when it's done it wants to go to other planets and spread some more. But, this story is only taking place on a base in Antarctica.

What I'm saying is, I think conceptually, this is how the Upside Down should be viewed, as well as the future villain.

I think the future villain is an inhabitant of the Upside Down. I think the Upside Down is an alternate universe of right-side-up Hawkins. But how?

Think of it this way. The Montauk Project/Hawkins Lab... US vs Russia. It's all Cold War crap. And what was the Cold War? It was a period of time where everyone was convinced the world would be destroyed via nuclear wipeout. A world ending calamity.

So think of it this way. What if that did happen in the alternate Hawkins, but it wasn't nuclear death... but a subject/experiment gone awry?

The Montauk Project conspiracy does not shy away from the abuse the abducted children suffered and how mentally broken and damaged they were even after their minds were "wiped".

Imagine a child so abused and angry that they.... with all their might and power... destroyed the world? A vengeful experiment with the power to end the world?

Yes, that is my theory I guess. (ahhhh this sounds so silly I'm sorry). A subject in the alternate Hawkins was so strong he ended that world, and transcended beyond his mortal means. I think this subject could be 001, the one they never mention anywhere else.

But what about the one in the right-side-up in Hawkins? Well, it is al alternate dimension. Every little twitch of the finger can produce a different future. In the right-side-up, this experiment, 001, did not become powerful enough to destroy the world.

But El, 011, sorta did? Or at least, she is the most powerful psychic to come out of the experiments in HER timeline.

001 is the equivalent of the spirit in the Poltergeist movie that kidnaps Carol-Anne.

001 is the equivalent of the alien from The Thing that wants to spread and destroy.

001 is Vecna? Vecna is 001 from an alternate dimension that already destroyed his own world and wants to spread.

You know how we say Kali is the El that let hatred consume her? Well. 001 is the Kali who not only let hatred consume them, but had the power to do something crazy about it.

Hm, I don't believe this contradicts anything that has happened in the previous seasons thus far. Honestly, Vecna+Mind Flayer lore kind of fit together in a way. Powerful entity that has conquered worlds?

So now you ask, "What is 001's power to do that?"

I believe 001's power is the power to manifest objects or anything really. This was the power of the Montauk's Projects main subject, something that El doesn't do.

So a child with the power to manifest anything they want whenever they want. You thought the Demogorgon was bad? Oof.

001 could've done that. Destroyed their world. Became metaphysical. All that jazz.

El could've encountered one of their many creations (the demogorgon) not only by accident, but because of their similar circumstances. Like finding crumbs left behind by someone else.

As for the identity of 001, I don't know. It'd have to be someone older than all the kids. Probably someone closer to Steve or Jonathan/Nancy's age. After all, El is 011. I dunno if they gave Kali an age, but she is still at least 4 to 5 years older than El and she's only 008.

This also leads me to Will. For years, I've questioned why the Demogorgon kinda singled him out. Why why was he chased when he wasn't bleeding. Why when he was caught wasn't he killed like literally everyone else. Why the Mind Flayer was so desperate to have him. All that?

It has lead me to this answer. All these psychic people/things share some similarities and so does Will. Something specific with 001.

Manifesting objects?

You see, in season 2, the Mind Flayer goes into Will in the middle of Will's uncontrollable "True Sight" episodes. But the Mind Flayer comes OUT of Will in the real world.

Will is possessed during a psychic episode, but when the Mind Flayer is yeeted from his physical body, it too is made real.

I dunno, what if the stars aligned for the Mind Flayer/Vecna and he's like "At last. Someone with this specific power that I need to go to this other realm."

Don't get me wrong, Will isn't gonna be closing his eyes and wishing for a bajillion dollars and suddenly it's gonna be made real. It, like True Sight, is probably something he can't control on his own. Maybe if he were an experiment like the others, but he's not.

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SO THERE YOU HAVE IT. MY WHOLE RAMBLING THOUGHT PROCESS.

To summarize again because I think even the tldr kinda sucks:

Vecna is 001 from the Upside Down that destroyed their own world once upon of time and is no longer a thinking feeling human but more like an intelligent force of nature (like a tornado of doom).

Vecna == Mind Flayer, Mind Flayer is just their smokey projection or something.

El is the first time Vecna has encountered someone even close to their power.

Will is a useful tool for spreading/traveling.

The "Vecna" in their world, 001, is probably unlike his alternate self and maybe insane because of the hardships? I dunno.

How do they fix all this crap? I dunno. I guess make sure the government (whether it's the US or Russia) isn't giving him another way in.

#stranger things #theory #el hopper #will byers #everyone else #oh my god this is SO bad #maybe you shouldn't read it #it kinda sucks lol #I don't really know how anything fits together #I was worried things were getting too big #but maybe it won't be too bad

[itbelillian]

deltarune ch2 spoilers

seriously I'm about to spoil the fuck out of the game and also the Alternative Route For Assholes

ok the 24 hour spoiler ban has passed but still: FINAL SPOILER WARNING. 

first: GOD this game is so. GOOD? holy sweet mother of meatball, I have been thinking about it nonstop for the past 2 days. it feels like a shitpost. I love queen dearly. the potassium gag. “what does bosom mean??” “tity.” every single interaction with her and berdly made me PISS myself laughing and especially The Statue. actually this whole game was really, really funny. the part where you and ralsei go on the swan boat, literally on acid, and battle it out with rouxls kaard. who is riding a duck. god where does toby come up with this material?? it is so weird but.... so good. his comedic chops have gotten a LOT better since undertale, and even chapter 1.

the art, music, and mechanics were SPOT ON. the recruitment thing, the implication that at some point you’re going to have to de-recruit someone for the betterment of your town, the town itself, just... good lord. toby has outdone himself. this adds so much complexity to the gameplay that was kind of lacking in undertale? I also love the way that the equipment has been done this time around, it adds an element of strategy to deciding who should get what items and when to equip different items. the team as a whole is so great, mechanics wise. fights with them are INFINITELY more entertaining than fighting alone as kris would be. and the art is WAY better than undertale. I've never been one to criticize Undertale’s graphics, and I still won’t, but it’s impossible to deny that deltarune is a step up in every way. the little animations of kris and susie entering the dark world, susie and lancer’s high-five, the attack/defend animations, just so good. the environments are super aesthetically pleasing, too. the music is great, of course. it’s Toby Fox what am I expecting?? to be honest nothing has really Hit Me the same way any tracks from undertale have, but maybe they will as I listen to them more. a big part of it is the familiarity.

also: I was never too attached to either susie or Ralsei in chapter one, but this really sold it for me. when I played Undertale I felt very invested in the characters, but not so much my friendship with them. it felt very much like we had just met each other. in deltarune I 100000 percent buy the friendship and I ADORE both of them so much? the fact that kris literally does not say anything but still has distinct dynamics with the two of them baffles me but I can’t complain because it is?? so?? amazing??? I was genuinely very upset when ralsei and susie left to do their own thing. I didn’t realize it as it was happening but I really loved having them around. I missed them. also it seems like EVERYONE except me was suspicious of ralsei, but now that it’s been pointed out... yeah. I love him to BITS so it pains me to say but something is Wrong With Him. why can he travel from dark world to dark world without turning into a statue? what are the titans, and why is he only mentioning them now? and actually, ALL of our information about the dark world is coming from him. how much is true? what else does he know that he’s not telling us? 

and what. WHAT. is up with kris? I don’t even have any theories I am just baffled. it seems like they’re the knight, right? have they been creating... all of the dark worlds, including the first one in the storage closet? does this make kris the villain? or is the creation of dark worlds a good thing... meaning ralsei is manipulating us into thinking the dark fountains are evil? Why would they slash Toriel’s tires? why are we possessing them? also I LOVE the puppet theme with the hidden bosses... and it really seems like something about that is not sitting right with kris, either. kris full on shouting that they’re not okay to ralsei after he asks... good god I am SO CURIOUS. the mystery element here is really on point. it’s so easy to settle into the comedy and fun little group dynamic, but something is always Wrong and when something reminds you it is deeply unsettling. the only group member who doesn’t seem to have something freaky and suspicious going on is susie... if she turns out to be evil too i stg im ejecting myself from the stratosphere 

also speaking of mysteries: not knowing how Undertale and deltarune connect is KILLING me. I fully buy into the theory that sans and papyrus are “from” the world of deltarune, originally. if the theory is true, then word search from icee’s pizzeria you find in UT is actually SO? brilliant. SANS GAVE YOU A WORD SEARCH FROM A RESTAURANT THAT ONLY EXISTS IN DELTARUNE. was toby thinking about this all the way back when Undertale was released??? but is deltarune an alternate... timeline? does undertale exist at ALL, if the sans and papyrus thing doesn’t turn out to be true? but if that were the case, why would sans’ grocery store be the same building as grillby’s, logo and all? does sans owning the grillby’s building indicate that sans went to the undertale world to take it?? what is going ON??? 

and just going to say it: snowgrave route in deltarune (is that what we’re calling it???) is a MILLION times freakier than the genocide route in Undertale. like ut is  depressing, it was Unfun to kill my friends, but the way you just... slowly corrupt pure, innocent Noelle and make her do your incredibly screwed up bidding is just disturbing. the way you just say “Proceed” at all the puzzles and like, gaslight her into thinking she didn’t TOTALLY MURK berdly and that ring seller guy... god it’s so messed up but also SO???? amazing??? murdering video game characters makes you feel like you’re... well, playing a video game. but forcing Noelle to do it for you??? something about that feels so much more twisted. god I feel like a sadistic bastard. 

deltarune is not undertale but it’s not trying to be. it definitely feels distinctly different, and maybe more sinister? expectations are through the roof for toby but he’s killing it. I remember being worried when deltarune ch1 was announced, because undertale doesn’t feel like the kind of game that can, or should, be followed up by anything. I think I was wrong though. I don’t know how its possible, but deltarune is the perfect thematic successor to undertale in every way I can think of. tl;dr PLAY DELTARUNE it was good 

#deltarune chapter 2 #deltarune #deltarune spoilers #deltarune ch 2 spoilers #deltarune ch 2 #undertale

[goddamnalientourists]

Random bits of Lorien Legacies fandom history I remember:

- Everyone thinking Five was going to be a girl before The Fall of Five came out and people living their truth writing all those self inserts and oc girl fives who always ended up smooching Nine (who didn't love a good self insert?)

- all those anti Five memes after TFOF which were like "i am number four fans counting to ten 1 2 3 4 not you 6 7 8 9 10"

- that facebook game about mark james that may or may not have been a fever dream

- everyone calling setrakus ra mousetraps for some reason. I don't remember why.

- the fandom making Eight's sole character trait pizza because he referenced it one time. Also whitewashing him with Robert Sheehan edits.

- that time I was really into crack ships and someone took one look at a Nine/Marina fic I wrote bluescreened and did a whole essay on how ridiculous ships made them quit the fandom and everyone called them out on it

- Sam/Six ship being named Stormchaser

- When John/Six/Sam love triangle was going on and everyone went out of their way to hate on Sarah (and also that time everyone thought she was a traitor?? I forgot how that worked out my brain is telling me Setrakus shapeshifted into her but i haven't read it for ages so idk)

- the iconic fic I read once where the fic author didn't like Sarah so they included a scene where her head exploded and she was secretly a robot the whole time to get her out of the picture go bold or go home

- the time everyone started liking Sarah and making critiques of John's character and the series shitty writing #SarahHartDeservedBetter

- the time @officialpittacuslore rocked up, pointed at John and Nine and said "yes, I'll have some more of whatever those two have going on", dug a pit, labelled it 'Stohn' and everyone jumped in overnight (gay alien pit throwback uwu)

- astohnymous sending everyone in the fandom incorrect quotes on anon

- Six/Marina rising in popularity. Sirina supremacy. There is no heterosexual explanation for dreaming about seeing a girl on the beach that's soulmate energy right there.

- sandor/devektra/crayton/lexa fics and edits were a big thing for a while and devektra was always taylor swift

- the period before the revenge of seven was released where there was a countdown centred around celebration of fan content creation where everyone wrote fics and did art and edits for a certain theme!

- the time I got so annoyed by this random guy named Devdan just disappearing and never being mentioned again I made a whole detailed theory involving alternate timelines to make it so Devdan is Eight from a bad!future. I still think this is a cool theory and better than the actual explanation, bad and lazy writing.

- one time I ran a secret santa for the fandom and legend says I still haven't removed the page from my blog because I just forgot to for years. Literally. It's still on my blog. Wth?? Shameful 😔 my blog is terrible but what do you expect i dont get paid

- the shittacuslore and setracrapra RP blogs

- also I have a Malcolm roleplay sideblog I hardly ever used don't know if that counts as a significant moment of fandom history but I just find it funny how out of all characters I could have RPd I chose him. Could have picked a character with cool powers and telekinesis but I pointed at the local traumatised amnesia dad and was like "yes, I will be him", made 3 posts and never used it again.

- I've been an Adam stan since I first joined this fandom and the first thing I contributed to this fandom was a coloured pencil drawing of One wjth a surfboard, and it's been glorious watching Adam rise from 'character people are vaguely aware of but most haven't read the side-stories so they don't know about him to care enough' to 'fan favourite who deserves everything in the world and also look at him he's depressed and queer' (no I am not projecting ok maybe i am but can you blame me) anyway shoutout to Knave for all the Adam content over the years it feeds me

- The time people were coming up with shipnames for fun and I said Kevy for Kelly/Five and everyone rolled with it but it was actually a typo the whole time and doesn't even make sense when you look at it but it was too late to go back no i don't remember why we were discussing shipping kelly/five

- That solid week and a half everyone aggressively shipped Malcolm and Henri

- when legacies reborn came out and there was a resurgence of energy and theories around all the new characters

Anyway I joined the tumblr fandom ~2013 but I've been in this fandom since 2011, before The Rise of Nine was even released. Also what the actual bleeping heck it is 2021 and 2011 was TEN YEARS AGO?? A WHOLE DECADE????? Help

#lorien legacies #i felt like i had to make this for important historical record #also for fun :) #i've been in this fandom a decade hoo boi I'M OLD

[arowrath]

hello i would like to hear about otherkin history from you! and maybe even your kins!! i wanna know more :D

ok so!! basically the otherkin community started in the 1960s when elfinkind- people who spiritually identified as elves from lord of the rings- created a community thru mailing lists and the like, specifically the elfinkind digest. towards the 70s and 80s, more species than just elves discovered themselves, and the world otherkind became common use. this became the word otherkin thats used most commonly today. in 2004, the word otakukin was created, basically ppl who were otherkin of character from anime. this was changed to fictionkin to allow ppl from a variety of sources to use the same word. the word mediakin is also used, albeit less commonly, by those who dont want their sources to be called fiction. as for what otherkin / fictionkin is, the term combines a couple of experiences, with the msot common one being that you believe you were a character in a past life due to the multiverse theory*. (tho theres also the. i want to say colloquial but i feel thats not the right word? so. the often-used meaning of the term, which is “character u relate to.” & relating to characters is fine but thats not the actual meaning of the word- synpath, copinglink, mirrorlink, kith, and otherhearted all exist for that purpose) *(the multiverse theory is basically the theory that theres infinite alternate universes. its rlly fun to watch youtube videos abt when ur on a bunch of pain meds after getting ur wisdom teeth out kjfgfk) as for me & my kins: i figured out i was kin in. early 2018 i think? id known abt otherkin for several years, full transparency i would look up "otherkin cringe" on pintrest in 2016. & 2018 was around the time that kff ("kin for fun" - synpaths/copinglinks/etc using the word kin, basically) was taking off but i still understood the word by its original definition. anyway. yknow when u suddenly get a super strong memory that u havent thought abt in years? i had one of those except it was for sure not of something that happened to me, and it was for sure something that happened to jared kleinman and i was kind of like. Well thats weird. wow that sounds exactly like that otherkin thing ive heard about im sure it has nothing to do with that though. (spoiler alert: it did) for me & for a lot of ppl we'll have a LOT more memories from one canon (canon meaning timeline, essentially) than another- my personal explanation of it is that i feel those are from closer universes/less time ago. other ppl probably have different interpretations tho ^_^ this is getting long im gonna share some random fun facts from some of my canons and then im done i prommy. umm in my jared canon i was nonbinary!! i used he/ae prns. in one of my c!tommy canons i had wings :D!! in my origins!tubbo canon ranboo used she/he pronouns. i was transfem in my jeremy heere canon! my name was jada (<- you know im not making this up i have a HATRED for when trans characters have the same first letter in the deadname and chosen name). im also otherkin! i was an ice dragon one time that was cool <- saying it like that is extremely funny to me sorry

ok im done now :D thank u 4 asking i love talking abt this stuff ^_^

#ask #kin tag #long post

[plasticnightmaredoll]

How about that WandaVision finale?

I have been MCU trash pretty much since 2008's "Iron Man," and it's currently a great time to be MCU trash. "WandaVision" is one of the few series that not only kept me coming back week after week, but actually amounted to much more than just a gimmicky twist (I'm looking at you, "Behind Her Eyes." Seriously, that show is soap opera drivel with a shocking double twist as its only captivating trait...and the double twist wasn't handled very well anyway)

In the end "WandaVision" was about overcoming grief and accepting reality.

Spoilers ahead!

The "WandaVision" finale was quite good overall, but there were a few disappointments. I'll address the latter first:

We never found out who was in witness protection. At the beginning of the series, Jimmy Woo stated there was someone trapped in West View who was in the witness protection program, and it seemed like it would be a key subplot but ultimately, it didn't lead anywhere. Perhaps it wasn't meant to be seen as anything more than some...random bit of information, but it is odd that they put such a specific detail into the story in the first place if it wasn't going to lead anywhere. Then again, supposedly we may get more questions answered in "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness," so this subplot may not have been wasted after all.

There were so many theories floating around hinting at who the true villain was behind the scenes, including Mephisto, Nightmare, Grim Reaper, and Chthon. All seemed like valid enemy choices, especially Mephisto as many clues appeared to lead to him, and Grim Reaper due to his helmet making an appearance in the opening credits of episode two. However, there wasn't a big baddie hiding in the shadows, and Agatha Harkness and Tyler Hayward were the only villains. Then again, that doesn't mean there isn't an ultimate villain lurking out there who could appear in "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness," but it kind of sucks we have to wait until 2022 to find out.

I wanted White Vision to go to Wanda and get together with her since Hex Vision restored his memories. But White Vision just flew off and wasn't seen again for the rest of the episode. I guess he needed time to process all the memories that had just flooded his high advanced robot mind, which is understandable because it was a lot to take in. I would have liked to see him make another appearance in the episode, though, even if it was at the very end with Wanda in her secluded cabin. I just want them to be happy together, ok?

Evan Peters wasn't actually Quicksilver/Peter Maximoff from the "X-Men" movies but someone named Ralph Bohner. This must be the Ralph Agatha referred to numerous times throughout the series but was never shown (not until the later episodes, that is). It does seem a bit weird -- off-putting, really -- that Evan wasn't Quicksilver from an alternate timeline. It would have made sense, and would have been a nice sampling of the "Multiverse of Madness," but in the end, he was just...Ralph. I honestly, don't get it, though: Why choose Evan Peters for such a random role when he was Quicksilver in the "X-Men" movies, and we are getting into the Multiverse part of the MCU storyline? Also, what happened to him in the end? After Monica freed him from Agatha's magic, we never saw him again. So....? What gives?

Although this is more of a personal gripe than anything, I was seriously hoping Doctor Strange would appear in the finale, even if it was in a post-credits scene. It would have been an excellent lead in for "Multiverse of Madness," and I just really love Benedict Cumberbatch's portrayal of the character. But again, this isn't really a flaw with the "WandaVision" series and is more of a pet peeve.

Also another peeve: What happened to Señor Scratchy?

I can't even say that there was a lot to be disappointed in with the finale, though. The lack of an "ultimate big bad meanie" isn't so bad. The series was more focused on Wanda running from her grief, having it smother her, and then earning her acceptance. Agatha and Hayward were sufficient as "true villains" of the series.

The only big issues are Evan Peters being a random dude named Ralph, and the weird subplot of a missing witness that ended up leading nowhere (for now?)

There was plenty of good in the "WandaVision" finale!

Wanda finally donning a scarlet outfit and crow reminiscent of what she wears in the comics was totally bad ass. It looked fantastic, and it shows she's now understanding herself and her powers much more. She isn't naïve about any of it, and is ready to learn how to control and enhance her abilities. Initially, she didn't want to be seen as a witch but ultimately, it is her destiny, and she chose to accept it without fear.

The second and final post-credits scene with Wanda making tea in her secret cabin in the mountains was interesting to say the least. Physical(?) Wanda was doing daily task while her astral projection -- which featured her in her costume -- was studying the book of dark spells (or "Book of the Damned," as Agatha called it). This is a funny nod to 2016's "Doctor Strange" considering Doctor Strange's physical form would sleep while his astral form would study magic. The difference, though, is Wanda is reading from the Book of the Damned, which can't be a good thing. Also, it almost indicates she has two personalities: Wanda Maximoff and Scarlet Witch, and I like that idea. She may have to wrestle with herself internally in the near future.

I was so glad that White Vision was able to regain his memories of his past -- and true? -- self thanks to Hex Vision. I hope White Vision will go to Wanda and reunite with her, but I'm not sure when that will happen. Paul Bettany isn't listed in the cast for "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness" so...I'm really confused. White Vision still exists and is somewhere but...where? When? How? The cast list for "Multiverse of Madness" is very short, though, and Paul's upcoming films and series list ends in 2020 so...maybe it's meant to be a secret? The movie isn't due out until next year so it COULD be the case. Otherwise, it seems like a huge oversight on the MCU's part to just forget about White Vision. It would be a pleasant surprise if he shows up in "Multiverse of Madness" to help Wanda from doing bad things, losing control, or whatever?

Scarlet Witch is supposedly stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme, which is kind of awesome but kind of troubling because Doctor Strange may not have the best time in "Multiverse of Madness" is he is to confront her. This is why I hold on to the theory that White Vision may appear in the movie to aid Doctor Strange by calming Wanda down. Either way, knowing she is so powerful and at the same time, a very emotional person, hints at an epic fight in the near future.

I really liked how Wanda tricked Agatha into stealing her chaos magic. I was wondering why Wanda was missing with some of her chaos magic spheres, but assumed she was just growing tired and weak and was losing focus. Then it's revealed that she wasn't missing her shots -- she was placing large runes on the Hex's walls to prevent Agatha from using her magic. Then this allowed Wanda to take back her powers and steal some of Agatha's, which, in turn, made her accept her role as the Scarlet Witch. Agatha is punished by being trapped as nosy neighbor Agnes in West View, but I don't think it's the last we'll see of her.

I'm glad Wanda was able to finally accept Vision's death as that was what had caused all this mess in the first place. Despite what she did, she was a sympathetic "villain," if you can even consider her one. She was overwhelmed by grief and found a way to cope...she just happened to drag a small town into her world. Oops.

Monica's powers continuing to evolve was amazing, like how she managed to stop the bullets Hayward attempted to fire at Billy and Tommy. I really like Monica's character and the actress, Teyonah Parris, is very talented, so I'm excited to see more of her in Phase Four.

While it was expected, it was ultimately the right decision to let the people of West View go free. Even if they still resent Wanda for trapping them previously, they are given the chance to return to their normal lives without any harm done to them (well, maybe some mental and emotional trauma but, hey, who doesn't deal with these things in life, right?)

Some things I want to make note of:

Paul Bettany is a fucking troll and I love it! He had hinted at a surprise cameo later in the "WandaVision" series, which would involve working with an actor he's always wanted to work with. This caused a lot of speculation as to who it would be, although, Benedict Cumberbatch was the top choice since Doctor Strange and Vision never had screen time together, and Benedict is a great actor (then again, so is Paul, although, he's underrated, I think). Then there were rumors of Al Pacino being the surprise cameo since he was a major influence on Paul, and there were theories Al would show up as a secret villain like Nightmare. Turns out the secret surprise cameo was Paul Bettany himself since he played both Hex Vision and White Vision, and the two did fight for a bit before having a philosophical chat which led to White Vision regaining his memories. So, yeah, Paul Bettany is Troll of the Year. I guess I was initially disappointed that the big reveal wasn't really a big reveal, but I quickly realized how hilarious it was that Paul played us all so well. He's probably laughing his ass off right now at everyone's "WTFFF?" reactions.

I know Elizabeth Olsen was criticized for her poor Russian accent, but I think she's a very good actress and love her portrayal of Wanda. I mean, accents can be a bitch to master, I get it, and sometimes, I think if the performance is still impressive, we can learn to be unbothered if the accent is off.

I noticed that Chiwetel Ejiofor is returning as Karl Mordo in "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness," so perhaps he will be the main villain or a secondary villain? He has to be a villain since he is hunting down sorcerers to take their powers. Maybe he wants to take Wanda's powers, too? I mean, she's a sorcerer of sorts, so...maybe that is going to be a plot point? Although, Mordo is probably way out of his depth against her but we shall see.

I kind of still want Mephisto or Nightmare to appear in Phase Four since they have been hyped so much due to clues in "WandaVision." I don't think Wanda will be the big baddie for Phase Four, I just don't see it. Also, I don't see Mordo as being the big baddie, either. Both are very single-minded in their goals, and yeah, Thanos was, too, but he dragged the entire universe into his insane and devastating goal. I don't think Wanda or Mordo have such grand and deadly intentions. Wanda just wants her kids back and Mordo wants to get rid of sorcerers as...revenge against the Ancient One's "betrayal?" I don't know...but I don't think he wants to take over the universe. I never read the comics, though, so I could be wrong.

In the second post-credits scene of the "WandaVision" finale," we see Wanda's astral self studying dark magic from the Book of the Damned, and Billy and Tommy suddenly call out to her. I am guessing she could have been studying spells to see if there was anything that could bring them back since, unlike Vision, they were a creation unique to her from the start. Vision was initially a new, more powerful, more durable body for Ultron, then he was given Jarvis' AI and became, uh, the Vision, so, he never "belonged" to her. Getting her kids back, however, may prove to be a problem for the universe because it could lead to multiverse madness. I'm so funny, I know.

As disappointing as it was for Evan Peters to presumably be some dude named Ralph Bohner and not the "X-Men" movieverse Quicksilver/Peter Maximoff, maybe it makes sense when you really think about it. Marvel owns the rights to the X-Men now because Disney owns Marvel and Disney purchased the rights through their merger with 21st Century Fox. Marvel plans to reboot the X-Men with "The Mutants" movie sometime soon, and that means characters will be recast. They kind of have to because the current cast's movie series has hit a dead end with "Apocalypse" and "Dark Phoenix" proving to be underwhelming. I do wonder how Marvel will breathe fresh life into the X-Men in the movieverse because I feel like there is X-Men fatigue right now? Or maybe it's just me. I've grown disappointed with the franchise and am sort of annoyed at a reboot because it may be too soon. But, hey, hopefully I'm proven wrong!

Marvel also has rights to the Fantastic Four, which means we may actually finally get a good Fantastic Four movie! Three attempts have been made so far (yes, three), and they all failed to impress with the last attempt being an embarrassment. I mean, it was a disaster as nearly everyone hated how boring and bland and choppy it was, and that is reflected in its pitiful earnings. On a budge of $120-155 million, the 2015 "Fantastic Four" movie only grossed $167.9 million globally. OOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFF.

Phew, that was a huge post, but got all my thoughts out. Considering how shitty things have been since the abomination of 2020 was born, and with little hope for things to improve anytime soon (I have my own problems as well, which aren't going away anytime soon, either, hahaha T__T), it's refreshing to have some stuff to be happy about. Some people hate the MCU, some people have lost interest, and some people may just be indifferent, but I'm definitely and MCU fan and it makes me feel excited and giddy, two things I don't experience often anymore :\

Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments or in a reblog, but no hate and no "cancel culture" talk. I want to keep this post positive.

#wandavision #scarlet witch #agatha harkness #vision #the vision #mcu #marvel #wandavision spoilers #tommy maximoff #billy maximoff #elizabeth olsen #doctor strange #benedict cumberbatch #paul bettany #evan peters #senor scratchy #doctor strange in the multiverse of madness #kathryn hahn

[bloodyneptune]

New theory time, and stupid long.

Ok so, we already know from Endgame and Miss Minutes' video that a variation in the timeline creates a branch reality right

So in the same way Steve wasn't secretly in the MCU this whole time in hiding, Old Loki wasn't in the main timeline. Interacting with Thor wouldn't have altered the Sacred Timeline anymore than Steve interacting with Peggy did. The second the change occurred, they were in a branch reality.

So why would interacting with Thor have mattered? Did they get rid of the multiverse, then let a second one be created where each one is essentially the same, with a few minor but overall insignificant changes? A billion sacred timelines?

That makes no sense. The same with Silvie, clearly the fact that she was female (or choosing that form) didn't alter the overall events of the sacred timeline of the reality she was in, but she was in one. Whatever happened in her nexus event moment diverged from the timeline too much

My point is, that's stupid, why would the people/person behind the TVA be fine with a second multiverse as long as they're all essentially the same.

Unless protecting the timeline isn't the goal, its keeping it isolated. The way they talk about it, pruning, branches, the way its visually shown, what if its literally more like a tree. Small branches are fine, as long as its close enough to main trunk (the sacred timeline) but big changes cause big branches, and when you have say, a bunch of trees in a forest, the bigger the branches the closer it gets to other trees.

Theory:

I think the multiverse was never destroyed, its still there. They didn't get rid of it and make one timeline, they isolated one from the rest. Look at the way they showed Loki and Silvie's Nexus event, like some thing going straight up and away. Maybe if it hadn't been stopped, it would have connected the 'sacred timeline' back to the multiverse.

Even the word 'nexus' itself doesn't mean some thing diverging from some thing else, it means connecting. You could read it as 'the central point' as in, the point where the variation occurred, but that could be what they led everyone to assume. Maybe it actually means 'connecting event'. It would explain why branch timelines arent nexus events, only things that diverge too far from the path of the sacred timeline.

What if they didn't win some big multiverse war like heros, bring order and peace, they ran and hid. Everything weve been led to believe tells us whoever's running the TVA is some evil mastermind with a hidden motive, but what if they've just been trying to keep the timeline hidden and safe from a multiverse still at war?

If Loki ends with big enough branches being formed, it could bring the MCU timeline into a multiverse of madness. A multiverse where its common to go from one to another, say like a pile of Spiderman villains followed by a pile of Spidermen in pursuit. Evil Skrulls that secretly invade other multiverses. Maybe a powerful enough witch could hear a reality where her made up children are real, and go on a warpath through the multiverse to find them, the catalyst to alerting everyone to the realities presence again, making her the villain of the story

What if stopping the TVA is bad

And if we go back to Lokis character: in Dark World he faked his death, hid, then pretended to be Odin, a great and powerful ruler. Just like in this theory, whoever is behind all this would have 'faked the timelines death', hid, and pretended to be a great and powerful ruler. So...what if another Loki did the same thing on a universal scale? Maybe the theories that another Loki is behind everything is true, but in very much not the way we expect.

The TVA uses time travel, he could have seen the fate of his universe -loosing Asgard and how it effects him has been a reoccurring theme - and went back to create a branch timeline of his own, making sure it followed the 'sacred timeline' aka the one he already knew, and eventually "resurrecting Asgard" so to speak, something they literally showed us a Loki do. Foreshadowing?

Maybe Loki and Silvie realize all this, while Möbius has gone off to doom the universe by 'burning the TVA to the ground'...BECAUSE HES MEpHisTO!!! Im kidding I'm kidding

Anyway, the alternative is that there really is no multiverse anymore, Loki breaks the TVA and suddenly a fully formed multiverse exists. Just boop, no more TVA, now Sam Ramis Spiderman Universe exists.

This though, this would bring a lot of the themes together. The universe wanting to break free, Lokis always surviving, the TVA being staffed by variants (it would have been started by one), Lokis always lying (Boastful Loki much? A variant Loki pretending to have conquered when he didn't?), his love of Asgard, Old Loki 'resurrecting' it, wanting to take over the TVA to control his own fate ('he' would literally control the TVA and control 'his' fate), this TVA Loki hidden alone. And maybe it ends with Silvie and Loki, who's mission it is to take down the TVA, agreeing to help keep it going. A real Watchmen style end, except..

But something I won't type 50 more paragraphs about happens, and its into the multiverse of madness

#loki #loki spoilers

[deanisridingapolarbear-blog]

Gather around children we are back to: Empyre/GOTG/Teddy’s traitor theories (yaas boys)

To be honest I think @bladorthin​ already wrote down most of the feelings (see his post here) I have about this issue. I was very happy after the last month’s disappointment and it’s clear that Ewing cares for his characters and is overall talented writer and creator here. Never read GOTG but still I’m hooked for this and so excited to get more just like when reading Empyre last year. Also the art and colouring style were something that I enjoyed as well. It pleased my aesthetic eye.

So what do I have to give for this? Theories (as the heading told ya). I’m sure I’m not the only one eagerly anticipating to see when the ”betrayal” storyline starts and I think this is it and I have few ideas how this might go.

Super-Skrull and the Cult Skrulls. Just to me it would not seem too far fetched that old sworn warrior like Super-Skrull would be part of something like that and he is close to Teddy. Teddy trusts him. Also based on some descriptions it seems that this run is going to tie in with S.W.O.R.D stuff and to me Super-Skrull as the bad guy and Cult Skrulls involved it would make sense. and think Valerio Schiti had this picture on his instagram recently and the bottom left ”ray” looked a bit like Billy to me when I first saw it, not sure about that, but that arm is very likely Super-Skrull’s hand right? 

The circle thing (probably around his neck) is something that Billy’s cape has recently had. Teddy has it on his cape so doubt it’s Teddy also Teddy rarely uses hands like that (unlike Super-Skrull). So has Super-Skrull shape shifted to Billy while having Billy trapped somewhere? Will he make Teddy think Billy has betrayed him? Think those are valid options.

Now my initial theory is that Billy won’t betray Teddy and don’t really see that happening. I pack this up currently with the Marvel Voices Pride issue coming out in June. It’s supposed to include story with Teddy and Billy right? Written by Heinberg. Now I know Marvel comics timelines and continuums are blurry at times and the story can take part in the past, present, future or another universe whatever, but hear me out. The issue should be coming out around same time as GOTG issue 15 that probably still ties in with what has started today. I do think the story in Pride issue will be a standalone that does not tie in with any specific storyline as such and probably (hopefully) something not too serious and little fluffy (we all need a bit of fluff right). But I doubt it will take place in the past (might be wrong though) because it just doesn’t really make sense. With the current storyline happening it’s also bit unlikely that the story would be set in the middle of all this Doom and Cult-Skrull stuff, so future it is. Future indicating that there’s going to be a future for Billy and Teddy thus Billy won’t be betraying Teddy, or at least it won’t be anything so drastic that they’d break up. I just doubt that Marvel would include them in that issue if they were about to trash the relationship.

From this theory it’s good to jump to Doom. I noticed that people were a bit annoyed that our boys didn’t beat Doom right away. However, I think they were really taken by surprise. I’m not too familiar with Doom’s history but at least Billy or Teddy haven’t been dealing with him in the space so it would be just natural that they did not expect the robots to be Doom’s creations. Also if you are surprise attacked and shot down (Billy looked quite unconscious there), you are not likely to beat someone like Doom by the snap of your fingers are you? So I think that was kind of well done and planted. And the more I think about this scene the more last years and 2019 comics tie in with all this storyline, or at least with Billy and Teddy in mind.

This panel (sorry bladorthin stole it from your post) made me a bit sceptical that maybe Billy is involved with Teddy’s betrayal after all. 

Something in that line just got me don’t know what but it made me feel like Billy assumed the robots should know about the alliance for some reason. Did he recognise the magic? But then again he was surprised they had magic in them. But then I realised Strikeforce and Vridai (you know the mushroom guys), Billy literally left a doom robot he controlled there so Doom probably managed to get some information through that or it might have let him to the Vridai that had more knowledge/memories of Billy’s. It’s a bit unclear at what point Billy visited Teddy before he left to space but probably after the doom robot part. Still, surely guy like Doom would be able to get his memories and the information about the Alliance one way or another with the help of Vridai.

Also we see that Doom gets Teddy’s sword here, which is another proof for me that Billy hasn’t betrayed Teddy at least with Doom because we see the sword broken in the Aftermath. Or at least they manage to get the sword back. With Doom I get a feeling there might also be involvement of Wanda or Magneto, like whose his bride this time? Does someone know?

But I doubt Billy himself will actually betray his hubby. What I think might be interesting storyline if he makes a deal of some sort with Doom to get Teddy’s sword back or to beat the Cult Skrulls (I think they are going to end up being the big bad guys that leads to the Aftermath cliff-hanger), which to Teddy might appear as a betrayal if he doesn’t get the whole truth at once -> which is why he thinks his grandmother was right but then Billy has gotten help from S.W.O.R.D -> they save Teddy at the end like we see in the Aftermath.

So yeah I still believe it won’t be Billy but I can see now that Super-Skrull might use his shape-shifting and with the cult and all make Billy look like a traitor to Teddy. Also Billy making some sort of deal with Doom to save Teddy’s empire makes sense, it would be something Billy would do. It would be something so selfless and supportive and let’s face it leadership stuff keeping his people safe. But it might look like betrayal to Teddy seeing Doom first stole his sword. Billy can also see alternative realities so he would know that deal with Doom is the only way and all that.

Ok I stop blabbering now, seriously remembering that picture of Valerio’s changed the course of this post and at first I had even Noh-Var in the cards but will leave it for now (don’t believe in that card that much any way). But would like to point out that T’Challa is in that pic too and he was also in the supper picture, he has also used the Sword and knows about the alliance… ok that’s a whole new idea there. I’d say T’Challa ties in with Doom which might lead to Billy’s ”betrayal”, Super-Skrull will be the ultimate traitor with the cult (like honeslty he didn't seem too bothered with the info about them), Billy and Teddy drift of for a bit but ultimately Billy comes in with S.W.O.R.D to save him.

Please let me know what you think about this brainstorm (literally) that I have had here. I think I’m now having lot of pieces and I see them fitting together nicely and wouldn’t be too surprised if they work out. I want a drink if these theories are proved right.

#sorry for spiralling this post really took some turns while writing #it is long yes I know #back to my old shit theorising here #empyre aftermath #hulkling #wiccan marvel #teddy altman #teddy kaplan altman #billy kaplan #billy kaplan altman #wiccan x hulkling #gotg #guardians of the galaxy #super skrull #dr doom #wickling #emperor hulkling #marvel comics

[carinyms]

We're three days from the Loki finale and I’m back to spout more meta and theories about episodes 5 & 6! It’s a long one (again.)

I really enjoyed episode five. People have complained that they felt it didn't do much to move the show forward, but one of the things I've loved most about this show is the time it takes to sit with the characters and learn about their backstory, their feelings. (I'm always a little bugged when critics say that an episode hasn't done enough to move the plot forward, because without adequate character development, why should I care about the plot?) I thought the pacing of it was really well balanced.

….and I have never been so nervous for a finale in my entire life. There’s a lot of reasons.

The first is just the fact that I’ve been waiting for this show for a whole year, and the anticipation and excitement of it literally helped get me through the pandemic--so when those final end credits roll I’m going to be a whole mess no matter what happens. (I really hope the rumors floating around about season two are accurate) I also just feel like it’s somewhat inevitable that this is our final farewell to Tom’s Loki, and like—I’ll never be ready, but especially right now, amidst all the rampant controversy around this show, I’m just not ready to deal with that. I have a *small* modicum of hope that this won't be the case, but it feels unlikely. Anyway, guess I’ll die.

I really want this show to stick the landing, so to say. I loved the last episode, but a lot of the response has been that it felt like a lull in the plot. I want this show to end in a satisfying bang so it can get the credit it deserves.

Also I’m a whole hypocrite eating my words from last week—I’m fully on-board with Loki/Sylvie now (not that I was ever really against it)--I’m not sure why I’m surprised. They’re so adorable and wholesome, and I’m in love with seeing Loki in love. It’s so precious. (Just as a PSA, if you’re not into them that’s chill, and you’re allowed to dislike a ship without trying to justify your opinion by labeling shippers as morally problematic. Selfcest isn’t a real thing, therefore there isn’t a moral high ground to stand on here. Okay? Okay.) Wherever it ultimately leads, their relationship is still a really sweet exploration of them both growing and learning how to love themselves and trust others. Also, them cuddling under a tablecloth is the cutest shit I’ve ever seen with my two eyes.

MY THEORIES:

I love Sylvie so much, SO MUCH — and she is 100% going to stab Loki in the back by the end of the next episode. I don’t think the betrayal is going to stick, and by the end they’ll both be on the same page again, but the conversations on trust have been way too one-sided for my comfort. If nothing else she's going to seriously consider it. Here’s one way I can see that going. Spoiler alert: it hurts.

Sylvie betrays Loki at one point—and we see Loki’s growth and arc come full circle as, even after being betrayed by the person he hinged his entire development around, he still believes in doing the right thing, in saving her regardless. It ends in a heart-wrenching self-sacrifice of some kind, and his actions serve as the catalyst for her full development as well. We keep seeing different versions of Loki die for their ‘glorious purpose’, just like how Classic Loki shouts the phrase as he was consumed by Aloith (RIP King, I love you).

Loki has already called Sylvie his glorious purpose (or inferred it). There’s been backlash around him saying that, but the way I see it, it’s less “I’m obsessed with this girl she’s my purpose now” and more “I believe that she’s the best version of us and I’m going to make it my purpose to help her succeed and be what the rest of us aren’t”. That’s why seeing all the other variant Loki’s at their worst in the Loki clubhouse (? what do I call this lol) only fuels him more to find her. I think about what Mobius told him: “You exist to cause pain and suffering and death, all so others can achieve the best versions of themselves”. I don’t think Loki truly believes he can be the best version of Loki — I think he saw Sylvie and thought, "it's her". He’s decided he’s going to help her achieve the best version of herself, but he'll do it giving her love and trust and devotion, rather than through betrayal, pain and suffering. He’s re-writing his pre-determined role, in his own small way. I’m so proud of him.

So who’s behind it all and what’s truly going on here? (This isn’t really one theory, more like a string of possibilities and I don’t really know how they’d fit together.)

I still think it’s another version of Loki. And if it is, I can’t help but appreciate the connections between his position dictating the end of time in the show in relation to Loki’s role in the Norse myths, where he’s the catalyst for the destruction of all things. It feels relevant, considering the whole idea that ‘the end of time hasn’t been written yet’ has come up twice now. That would be a fascinating tie-in to the mythology. (Also—Alioth looks like a giant dog. And Fenrir’s role in Ragnarok was devouring the world—I realize this is a reach but am I the only person seeing this connection?) The thing I really can’t predict is the motivation. What would cause a Loki to want to prevent Loki’s from changing? Was there something that happened in the sacred timeline this Loki is trying to preserve? (I also like the idea of us maybe seeing another version of Sylvie behind it all, but I’m just going to leave that rabbit hole alone. )

But here’s the theory I can’t stop thinking about. There’s a theory floating around tik tok (by user twelvepercentcredit) saying the ‘castle’ we see beyond Alioth looks like a place called the House of Ideas, something that appeared in a (discontinued?) Loki comic. Here’s the wiki page on it. Just looking at the imagery of this compared to the location we’re seeing in the trailers, it’s too similar to be a coincidence. The huge bookshelves, the towering ceilings.

Here’s a description from the wiki:

“The House of Ideas is also home to a library which archives the exploits of every hero who has ever existed in the form of books, written unconsciously by the collective minds of their believers. This collection is curated by Now and Then, two of the children of Eternity. Now and Then routinely seek out heroes to bring into the House of Ideas to bargain with them and give their collections more pages, therefore more time for adventures and exploits. “

And later on the page on how Loki ties in:

“Heeding the desire in Loki's heart to do more with his life, Now and Then approached Loki and brought him to the House of Ideas,[5] where they struck up with him the deal to give more pages to his collection of exploits, rewriting the Books of Loki with a hero's stories in exchange for an eventual hero's death.”

Are they gonna play with the exact happenings of this? I don't know, but it sounds pretty cool!

It would be gutsy to go this route with the show given how meta it is, but I love the idea of it. Would they put characters that embody the abstract ideas of “Eternity” “Now & Then” into the show in the last episode? I’m not sure. Something I could see as a possibility though is an alternate version of Loki having overthrown whoever was previously guarding the timeline, and Loki and Sylvie will have to take them down in turn, thus ‘releasing’ the multiverse to its default, chaotic state.

What if our Loki’s ultimate destiny, ultimate Glorious Purpose, is to release the timelines--restoring all the variants back to their original timelines--and remain in this place for eternity, guarding the timeline and ensuring the multiverse is allowed to exist in its natural state? It seems a pretty fitting role for the God of Chaos. It would also explain why whoever’s behind the TVA would be so desperate to eliminate all variant Loki, if that was his ultimate destiny.

It would be an effective way to remove Hiddleston’s Loki from the movie-verse without killing him, AND place both Sylvie and any other Loki variants back in the the main timeline for use in future films—which we know has to happen somehow, because Young Avengers is definitely happening, and Kid Loki has got to get out of the void somehow.

And yea, this outcome would hurt like a bitch. Because even though that would truly be a lovely glorious purpose for our Loki, he’d be alone. And the whole point of this show is that he doesn’t have to be alone! It would be a very poetic sacrifice for him to take on the burden of watching over the timelines alone for all eternity so that his other variants could be the best versions of themselves, but I really just want him to be happy. I will be crying my eyes out if this happens. I’ll be proud but I won’t be okay.

And this all is probably speculative nonsense and could go off in an entirely different direction. Who knows. All in all, I just really want to see Loki fully believe in himself and his ability, to truly absorb what he said about being stronger than he realizes, and to take control of his destiny.

WHAT I WANT (NEED) FROM EPISODE 6:

Let Hunter B-15 and Mobius team up to burn the place to the ground. She was nerfed in the time-keeper fight, I want to see B-15 kick some ass.

I kind of want Ravonna to escape and be a character that carries over into the films for her tie-ins with Kang? I want to see more of her.

Give Loki a new badass costume. I’m begging. If he’s gonna go down, he deserves to go down in something other than khakis.

And then I want to see him and Sylvie fighting side by side in matching outfits.

I want a Mobius-level hug between them. Or a kiss. Or both. But I want the hug more. And you know what? I want her to initiate the hug or kiss or whatever it is because I want Loki to experience receiving love and affection from others as much as giving it. He deserves it ok??

I expect Mobius on a jet ski in the post credits and if I don’t get it I riot

@marvel these are my demands.

As always, if you've made it this far I'd love to hear your thoughts!

#these just keep getting longer and longer #next week you can expect a full novel #loki #loki show #loki series #loki meta #loki show meta #loki series meta #loki theories #loki show theories #loki show positive #loki spoilers #loki series spoilers

[tank-grunt]

Hi I just wanted to say you're one of my fav blogs.... I love reading your posts and they fuel my love for this game!! Anyway--I'm actually here to ask if you have any favorite headcanon about Tank or tank/Johnny because I'm always interested in that 😳

awww thanks! as for favorite headcanons, uhh... hmmm. i have different headcanons based on the different games they appear in together so i’ll uh, categorize those i guess (also warning: long. i am very dramatic and thus am prone to waxing poetic about how i perceive a relationship)

sims 2 pc - tank is just a repressed gay with no idea how to cope with it because of ... you know... everything. he can’t recognize his feelings, he doesn’t know how to cope with them, and he’s so frustrated by everything all of the time because of the kind of home he’s grown up in that all the wires are being crossed, and he’s kind of an asshole to people who don’t deserve it because of that. in theory he really, really likes johnny... johnny’s nice, he’s handsome, and likable... but that’s also why he really, really dislikes him and is supremely jealous... he isn’t in a place where he can realize anything positive he feels. tank doesn’t get why his pulse speeds up or his face flushes when johnny’s around, he doesn’t know why he craves his attention - for anyone else it should be obvious, but for him there’s just too much going on. but he knows when he sees johnny surrounded by people who like him, he wishes that he were johnny, and he knows he’s an alien ... tank knows what to do with that.

in theory johnny could have really, really liked tank too - he’s fit, athletic, he can be witty and goofy and creative - but... johnny doesn’t get to see the part of tank worth liking. the parts that he would like, that he likes in others already. tank won’t show him. tank can’t afford to be vulnerable! so because of tank’s issues, he causes issues for johnny and johnny only sees the tank who is kind of a jealous repressed loner. and he’s already friends with ripp through ophelia so he’d already be aware of how tank isn’t exactly brother of the year as golden child to ripps scapegoat. and with no way of figuring out that the way tank’s treated isnt actually any better, johnny’s a bit biased. but johnny’s bio says he dreams of being a hero on a white horse, so i always kind of interpreted that as something of a hero complex - so i imagine he’d soften quickly if he had any idea the full extent of whats going on. 

oh, weirdly, that segues into -

sims 2 psp - not a very romantic headcanon - more about coping with circumstance - but theyre both victims of abuse from buzz and johnny knows it.

but so is ripp. so they’re not close, because johnny can see how the brothers are pitted against each other and he doesn’t like it... but johnny understands tank now, he understands why he’s like that, and he can’t really bring himself to be angry with him or blame him, even when tank is preventing his escape. he still has a hero complex. he sees the way tank has been hurt. he sees the way ripp is hurt, too. but he just can’t be mad. the fact he’s held captive by buzz isn’t the only reason why he hates him so vehemently, so passionately. he hates that he can see a father treat his sons so callously, so cruelly, and can’t do anything about it.

not that he’d put up with tank’s bs... but just sometimes trying to reach out, trying to talk sense into him. and maybe, because the nicest guy he knows is making some good points, maybe tank has doubts. maybe he questions buzz. johnny is very convincing. it’s not his fault!

basically im a sucker for the hurt/comfort of johnny’s kindness and his bluntness and courage helping tank realize that none of whats going on is right, or good. 

sims 2 ds/gba - i believe in ds/gba era tank/johnny supremacy, first and foremost - it’s always good! but there’s just something so nice and comforting about it in ds/gba... from their perspective, things are so different and yet also so similar... and there’s a certain kind of comfort with each other in seeing how different they’ve become, but how familiar they are. how they’ve grown and improved, and forged a healthy friendship and connection... and they know each other better than anyone else in town at that point - everyone is either dead, or left town. 

and the idea that tank just regularly comes into the pawn shop just to see johnny because he’s grown up and he knows how to follow his heart now... and johnny really is all he wants. maybe all he’s ever wanted, really. and johnny likes that. happiness is a good look on tank, and he likes seeing tank. you ever notice how johnny sells lotto tickets with tank’s face on them? i like to think he designed them himself, because he ... you know, likes tank. likes to see him.

when johnny’s not busy at the pawn shop, when tank’s not busy running the medical center he lives in... i imagine theyre supremely cheesy together. i mean, tank totally goes out of his way to help johnny around the pawnshop. i’ve always personally viewed johnny as supernaturally strong without trying, but i mean... us legbets just loooove to watch objects of our affection lifting things, and i can totally imagine tank just casually lifting things to impress johnny. he’s a bit humble but he likes attention from johnny, always has. and yeah, johnny can outbench him, but he enjoys the view.

and i KNOWwww that tank primarily lives in his dumb little medical center bunker he’s running, but i like to imagine that johnny has an apartment above the pawn shop (um, in the ds version anyways, it doesnt seem like the gba version has one but ... you know tank does spend a lot of time with a telescope up there sooo) and they live together, with a cat. its a very nice, domestic life that they’ve worked hard to manage with each other, and they’ve earned it 

sims 4 - they’re gallery sims with no relationship or connection with each other but it’s an alternate timeline so i like to take advantage of the fact :)

you know everything i wrote about tank having a crush on johnny he had no idea how to deal with? i love the idea that it’s the reverse in sims 4 timeline. tank in every other appearance he’s had has been so... insecure, reserved. but tank in sims 4 is confident! outgoing! athletic! ... johnny doesn’t stand a chance. he’s just a useless bisexual and he thinks tank is really cute and doesn’t know what to do about it... but how convenient for him, tank doesn’t have the same problems that really stood in the way of a relationship that he had in sims 2.

lyla’s ghost being around to shape the household post-mortem has definitely had positive effects on the family - the grunt siblings have better relationships with each other, they have their mother to guide them and intervene if buzz is ever unfair to them, and to question his authority... 

tank knows johnny likes him, in this timeline, and he’s a bit smug about it. but its ok! he kind of likes the scrawny green kid too. so what if he shows off a little more lately to get his attention? so what if he gets a little close in the hallways at school? whats a little kissing between homies?

#bulletin board #this is so long i am so sorry. #simpuke

[sigmaleph]

[1/3] i think i found a way in wich the prunning of silvye by the tva makes sense but, of course, it would take assuming a bunch of shit the show never made explicit so hold on to your hats: the true purpose of the tva is to prune any alternate timeline where evil versions of he who remains could show up. but, with the multiverse being what it is, there are probably infinite timelines with slight variances where that doesnt happen. so! sylvie is born female because of random genetic chance but-

[2/3] -you have to keep in mind, technically anything is possible at any time, it will never be the case that evil he who remains (from now on called "kang") showing up is actually literally 100% impossible, there will always be at least a 0.000001% chance, so the tva probably has a certain threshold after which the probability becomes to big to be allowed to go on. now sylvie being born increased that possibility a little but only at a very slow rate, not enough to trigger a warning in the tva-

[3/3] chances are this is something that is constantly happening with all infinite timelines, where the probability is constantly increasing or diminishing and they only interfere when it passes a certain point. now lets say sylvie lived most of her life more or less exactly like loki did and then at that precise day when she was playing with her toys something happened, maybe the way she played with them would trigger something in her that down the line gives way to kang, maybe at the point-

[4/3] (fuck i miscalculated) the probability increased enough to interfere. either way the idea is that being born a girl didnt increase that probablity enough at the time of birth but after years and years it accrued enough to be taken into consideration. the showrunners are still fucking cowards for not making sylvie trans loki, i 100% agree with that, i just wanted to come up with some way to make the events of the show make a little but more sense

OK! let's dive in, shall we

So, we're told that what the TVA looks for is "variance energy", signs that a timeline will diverge, but according to this interpretation if I'm reading you right they are lying/being lied to and what they actually look for is signs of kang arising. It seems less likely a priori that that's the sort of thing you can measure but let's handwave that problem away and say they can, bullshit technology is bullshit.

The side effect here is that Sylvie (and other Loki variants who look like they must've spent a while being divergent) come from long-term parallel timelines that are allowed to exist for a while, up until they get "variance energy" which is actually kangsign.

This would imply that there are many coexisting timelines, not just one "sacred timeline". They're allowed to remain as long as their P(Kang) is low.

So yeah this is a cool idea but here's where I disagree, and it's a similar problem with other complicated Loki theories I've heard: for the most part, the TVA believe their own party line

This is an important plot point! Mobius and hunter... 15? whatever her number was are ready to turn on the TVA the moment they find out they've been lied to; they think the official story is true and do a complete change in allegiance upon finding it's false.

But the official story means that they don't have any explanations for where sylvie comes from, and would similarly not have any explanation whenever they arrived at a timeline that diverged long ago and is only showing kangsign now. Why is nobody at the TVA, presumably people who have thought about time travel and multiverses more than me since this is their job and they have no personal lives, not questioning that their observations don't match what they're being told about the "sacred timeline"?

edit: Oh, also, I think it makes “redlining” more questionable. “you can destroy a timeline if it hasn’t diverged too much” is ehhh but potentially makes sense. “you can destroy a timeline but only if their kangsign is below a certain threshold” gets a lot more suspicious; why is kang so fundamentally intertwined with the fabric of the universe that it’s his probability of presence or absence that dictates the TVAs ability to prune a timeline? and if that’s not what redlining really is, then what is it?

[mag171]

ok!! so.

frisk (you, the player), has a Determination SOUL, meaning their very being is determined. its them, it's their main,,, character trait, you could say.

because of that determination, frisk is able to save, like in video games. in game these saves are bright, yellow, star/diamond things that are most likely visible only to you/frisk. their are a few fan interpretations of saving I've seen. those arent important currently

loading is the act of returning to your last save point. you reload when you wanna go back and do something, you reload when you die, etc.

resetting is the act of reverting time all the way back to when you fell into the underground, in the ruins, and no one will remember the previous route. you go along the same story, you can choose whether you wanna kill or spare, n all that jazz.

so basically you can stop and start time if you so choose. it's a power that should only fall into the hands of a good person.

take a look at Flowey, who had the ability to do these things before Frisk fell, who's determination overrided whatever it is that let flowey do his time stuff.

now, it's been theorized that sans either 1.) knows about the resets but doesnt remember em, 2.) knows about the resets and remembers em, and 3.) (well, this one just popped in my head) remembers the resets, but chalks em up to nightmares/daydreams.

the third is the less likely option if I'm being honest. not only does it not seem like sans, it's got way less angst potential than the second.

the first one is an interesting one, and does make a little sense. there are many theories that sans used to be a scientist and worked for the previous royal scientist (who's very being was scattered across time and space), W.D. Gaster. I've heard (I have not played the game myself, sadly) that its mentioned/shown somewhere in the game that sans likes to read about space and quantum things. (I'm not sure that's canon). if these things are true, then we have a smart guy who has studied things like timelines (I believe so anyway). it would kind of make sense he knew about the resets, maybe he had a machine that tracked their timelines, I dunno.

(oh, and sans' shortcuts. pretty fuckin sure its teleportation. how can he teleport? no one else has. doesnt make much sense. there are theories on him surviving a fall into the core, others about him being a test subject/experiment.)

now for the second. the majority of the fandom's favorite.

let's say sans remembers and knows about the resets. do you know how awful that'd be? even with pacifist. say, the player/frisk keep doing pacifist over and over. without change. imagine that. being freed from your prison only to wake up back on your shitty mattress. being able to feel the sun on your face after a life of only seeing stone above you. itd be torture, huh?

then there's genocide. Frisk/the player/chara kills everyone. over, and over. leaving sans to watch. his family, his friends. slaughtered in front of his face repeatedly. that's gotta take a toll on your mental health.

keeping all this in mind, what would it be like if sans could reset?

how did he gain the ability?

somehow losing his soul like flowey (wouldnt he be dead?)? gaining enough determination (hed melt, like undyne or the amalgamates*)? fucking around with the broken machine he has in the back of his house (a good idea, but where would he get his parts?**)

*or, we could go with the experiment theory. there the idea he was injected with a small amount of liquid determination by Gaster. DT (determination) isnt good for monsters, though, as they melt. some melting together and forming amalgamates. how would he survive? I've see. something on him possibly also being injected with Justice and Patience (Justice is yellow, patience is light blue. these colors flash in sans' eye.) beforehand that gave him a boost to survive the DT. if this happened maybe the DT did still affect him and drop him down to his current 1 HP, 1 DF, and 1 ATTK.

**alphys. I'm pretty sure its proven in canon that sans and alphys are good friend. alphys is the royal scientist. she might have the parts necessary to repair a broken machine that deals with timelines. she has said herself, in game, that there are alternate timelines.

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so uh.

yeah that was long-

sorry- /gen

that WAS long, holy shit! thats a lot to read ahdasjhasklj

so here’s what i gathered:

loading is going back to the last save point, resetting is restarting the game.

sans knows about the resets and likely knows about timeline shenanigans!

determination kills monsters (except undyne who used it in the genocide route to survive longer, right?) 

sans can probably remember all of the genocide routes, and theres angst potential there!

people who CAN reset: soulless monsters (flowey, unconfirmed others?) beings with determination (theorized) and humans, most of whom have at least a little bit of determination!