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[mlwritersguild]

MWG 2022 WRAPPED LIST - PART TWO

Our January event, as usual, was to recommend and review our favorite fics that we read in 2022! To make things a little bit more interesting and fun, we treated it a bit like an awards ceremony or spotify wrapped. If you know the tumblr accounts of any authors on AO3 that were mentioned but not tagged, please tag them! Continuing with our rec lists, here's part two!

Without further ado, here are the MWG nominations for best (completed) multi-chapter fics!

a bouquet of second chances by @mikauzoran

lukadrinette // season 4 // identity reveal // hurt/comfort // time travel

after this is over. by @writtenvisionary

lovesquare // angst // mental health issues

blood will tell by @sunfoxfic

féligami // alternate universe // aged-up // hurt/comfort // unplanned pregnancy

blue crayons by @talkstoself

lovesquare // mental health issues // aged-up // canon divergence // single parent marinette

home base by @gabriel-agreste-has-no-rights

lovesquare // djwifi // humor // hurt/comfort // identity reveal

tell me something i don't know by @carpisuns

lovesquare // chat fic // alternate universe // soulmates // angst with a happy ending

les illuminations en douche et d'autres miracles pubères by noirshitsuji

lovesquare // chloe/alya/nino // humor // fluff

many ways to rise by Zetared

lovesquare // disabled adrien // identity reveal // hurt/comfort

metamorphosis by @peachcitt

lovesquare // aged-up // alternate universe // slow burn // hurt/comfort // angst with a happy ending

passengers by @valiantlyjollynightmare

lovesquare // aged-up // pr/pr // hurt/comfort // fluff

second chances by @thenovelartist

lovesquare // djwifi // gabenath // single parent adrien // friends to lovers // fluff

sewing sentiments by @frostedpuffs

lovesquare // alternate universe // friends to lovers // aged-up // fluff // hurt/comfort

strangely familiar by @sunfoxfic

djwifi // alternate universe // aged-up // friends to lovers // slow burn // identity reveal

team is a four letter word by @ladyofthenoodle

core four friendship // lovesquare // humor // identity reveal

the love of a cat by @thenovelartist

lovesquare // alternate universe // royalty/medieval // fluff // angst // slow burn

the sidekick conspiracy by @bring-the-storm

lovesquare // djwifi // humor // fluff // sleepovers

when bunnyx brings a baby by @funnydoesntlookdruish

lovesquare // fluff // humor // aged-up // babysitting

Thanks if you made it this far! See you soon for Part 3: Ongoing Multi-Chapter fics!

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[billiejean485]

This episode showed exactly what it looks like to be an ML writer: coming up with a brand new idea and piecing it together with the rest of the existing canon, making the show so complicated you can barely keep track of everything!

#And as so eone who writes/wrote their own ML fanfiction #I can confirm this is EXACTLY how it looks inside your brain when doing it #miraculous ladybug #Destruction #ml destruction #miraculous ladybug season 5 #Srason 5 #ml season 5 #miraculous ladybug writers #ML writer #ml fanfic #miraculous ladybug fanfiction #miraculous ladybug fan fiction #Still not Kingdom Hearts level of complicated #but they're getting there

[buggachat]

honestly just in general it's very exhausting to try to analyze media that is literally meant to be analyzed, only for the replies to be filled with people arguing not against your analysis, but against the premise that the media can be analyzed at all.

i don't even know what to say about it without starting to really betray my frustration, so i'll just settle with— just don't engage with analysis posts? I'm serious. if you're typing a response to a media analysis post, reread what you've written and ask yourself "is this comment/response against the very concept of analyzing the media at all?" and if the answer is yes then delete it all and go sit in the shame corner. throw your curtains away if you want to so bad and stop telling me that I'm not allowed to hum and haw at the fact mine are blue

#ml fandom salt #I suppose #and no amount of adding ''stop telling me to not analyze the media'' on my analysis posts stops people from saying it anyway #and yes. the leaks count. stop telling me that the existence of outdated leaks invalidates all analyses of the completed material #and no. just like every other time i've said this. me saying that i don't care about the leaks is not an invitation for you to try to #convince me to care about the leaks #do i tag this spoilers? it feels weird to. i mean this to be a vague overarching thing about media in general #also of course any ''or maybe the writers are just bad'' arguments ALSO are included in this. YOU guys have been my bane since FOREVER #would you guys consider commenting on fanart with ''umm.... drawing seems pretty pointless lmao'' rude? #i know this is not the first time i've made a post like this and i'm sure it won't be the last

[theluckiestlb]

girl...WHEN??? WHERE????

what are you talking about???? when you kept him isolated for 14 years??? when you robbed him of bodily autonomy???? when you exposed him to his mother's corpse to akumatize him, TWICE????

wait, wait—OH you mean when he was terrified for his life, literally begging you to stop after you beat him up. my bad.

no? OH, you mean when you forced him to leave the country and the love of his life.

Huh.

#ml #miraculous ladybug #the math is not mathing #i'm sorry for the salt but this unacceptable I am BIG MAD #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste #ml spoilers #miraculous ladybug spoilers #ml recreation #ml recreation spoilers #nothing says love like a deprivation chamber #AND SHAME ON MARINETTE FOR DECIDING WHETHER ADRIEN SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH OR NOT #STOP!! ROBBING!! HIM!! OF !! DECISIONS!!! #literally a mar stan till I die but smh at the writers #TWO WEEKS OF PANCAKE DON'T ERASE A LIFETIME OF ABUSE #ZAG DO BETTER #'the good father i tried to be' girl you are DELULU

[420technoblazeit]

we have to as a society stop the miraculous ladybug writers from cooking bc at this point they've burned the whole fucking kitchen down. i only watched two seasons but every new detail i learn secondhand gives me incredible psychic damage it's like the riverdale of cartoons. every couple of days i see a new design cross my dashboard and it's either the best or worst thing i've ever seen. i still don't know if the main ship is currently canon because they keep doing time travel and mindwipes and alternate timelines to walk it back. their episodes aren't even chronological. in 50 years someone's going to tell me that adrien and marinette are finally dating but still don't know each other's superhero identities

#the pig squeals #miraculous ladybug #ml salt #ml writers salt

[emsylcatac]

Part of me will always mourn that we didn't get to see Chat Noir fighting Monarch, his father, in the finale battle. That's always gonna be nagging in the back of my mind.

At the same time, it was a little predictable, and what the writers chose to do instead makes a lot of sense when you think about it, and is maybe more satisfying for Adrien's arc regarding his relationship to his father than if he'd had to fight Monarch knowing it's Gabriel. (Not talking about the whole "he still doesn't know his father was Monarch" bit, I'm strictly talking about the fights here - that one's another topic entirely)

I say "predictable", because of what happened in "Representation". Adrien got here his moment to fight his father, as a seemingly akuma victim, and this on his own without Ladybug.

With this set-up we have here: Adrien confronting and fighting his father as in Gabriel Agreste, and Marinette confronting and fighting her nemesis as in Monarch. That's always what we envisioned as the finale fight against Monarch would be: Adrien vs his abusive father and Ladybug vs her enemy. It just didn't happen in the same fight, so both could separately have their moment and their thing to say.

I think in the end it's significantly more important that Adrien got to fight Gabriel Agreste as Psycauchemardeur focusing solely on him as his father, than have him fight Gabriel Agreste knowing it's Monarch. Because everything that happened in Representation, everything Adrien told his father as Chat Noir and everything Adrien was angry about regarding his father's behaviour with him, that all comes down to how Gabriel has acted as a father to him independently of him being a city terrorist.

If Adrien had had the realisation that his father's actions were terrible through the discovery that he was, on top of an abuser, a supervillain, then the whole "terrorising innocents" would have overshadowed in Adrien's anger all that Gabriel did to him personally as an abuser & shitty parental figure.

What I mean is that Adrien realising his father is shitty independently of knowing he's a terrorist and confronting him about it in a fight is part of his arc and is more impactful than Adrien confronting his father for his supervillain acts. He didn't realise Gabriel was a terrible person because he was a supervillain, but because he understood he was an abusive father and that's amazing

And that's why he got his moment in Representation while Marinette had hers in the finale - Gabriel is a shitty person both as a father and by being a magical terrorist. Adrien confronted him about the "shitty father" bit, and Marinette about the "magical terrorist bit", and both these things make sense with their respective character arcs & respective relationships to Gabriel

#i already see ppl coming to me with 'but now he thinks he's a hero' and again: #this analysis isn't about that part #that part is something else that might be adressed later by the show #i'm talking purely about the finale fights here & why i think the writers went with these instead of a ladynoir vs monarch fight #ml analysis #ml spoilers #recreation #recreation spoilers #ml s5 finale #s5 finale spoilers #s5 finale #ml s5 finale spoilers

[nobodyfamousposts]

Do you really think all of ML's problems would be fixed if Adrien never existed?

Good heavens, no.

Adrien isn't the problem. He's just a symptom of a much larger issue. That issue being laziness and poor writing that comes in the form of "tell, don't show", plot threads that go nowhere, and lack of character development or plot progression that leads to a setup of "Status Quo Is God". Removing Adrien wouldn't fix all of that. Heck, it wouldn't fix any of that.

I can't fault the writers for replacing Felix with Adrien. Even if I and others could write out a plot with Felix, that's not to say everyone could or that the writers could. It could very well be that Felix as he was in the PV simply didn't work for the setup they had in mind.

...the issue here is that the setup they had in mind seems to require stagnancy. Where Hawk Moth attacks without winning and the heroes fight off the akumas without really trying to track him as the source and the two leads chase each other around in circles without anyone making any headway in either of these battles. Marinette wants to date Adrien. Chat wants to date Ladybug. It's why all her plans to ask him out fail while his attempts to express his feelings aren't taken seriously. And there is no forward movement, whether in their arc or in the fight against Hawk Moth. There wasn't even build or lead up to the two falling in love. They just started out episode one with crushes on each other and remained having crushes on each other until arguably season 5.

But no good story is stagnant. In this setup, characters need to do things and there needs to be a feeling of forward momentum.

Break it down this way: What is Adrien's problem? What is his goal? What is the obstacle to his goal?

Yes, we could say Adrien's dad being a supervillain and a neglectful jerk is Adrien's main problem, but it's not the problem Adrien is actually focused on in the show. Instead, if we could say Adrien has a problem, it would be that he wants to date Ladybug. And his goal is to date Ladybug. And the source of the problem and obstacle to his goal is...Ladybug.

So his problem, his goal, and the obstacle are all the same thing. This ultimately seems to make his problems Ladybug’s fault then because the problem would be solved if she gives in to his wants rather than by any real effort on his part.

Adrien as he is in the show doesn't do anything. And he doesn't need to do anything because he is at his base a character that things are done for. He doesn't have a goal or direction or drive. He just comes out to deal with akumas as needed, flirt with Ladybug when he can, and then be sad because his life is so hard when he doesn't get what he wants. We don't see him doing anything else. We don't see him making friends. We don't see him engaging in school. We don't even really see how he interacts with the classmates he only recently met. Things happen around him, but he is not a driving force in anything in the show.

But Felix in the PV is a very driving character. He had a problem: he's cursed. What does he need to break the curse? A kiss from Ladybug. What are the obstacles to his goal: Ladybug refusing to kiss him and Hawk Moth trying to kill her. How does he get that kiss? By flirting with her and trying to earn her affections while protecting her and making sure she doesn't DIE against an akuma before he gets that special curse-breaking kiss.

It's the start of Felix's journey. His goal and the various obstacles to that goal that make his story interesting and his growth possible. As such, I see him as a character who would progress in his attempts to obtain his goal as well as one who would progress the storyline...which is also accurate of 3D Felix since that's kind of what he's done more in his relatively few appearances than the series has in 5 seasons.

Adrien didn't have to have Felix's personality. He didn't have to have the same goals or level of drive. But he could still have had things where he grows and helps to push the plot forward.

Adrien...

...just started school. He has no friends, knows no one, and is trying to learn the ins and outs of public education. How is he doing in the different setting with teachers instead of tutors? How is he trying to get along with his classmates? Does he experience bullying? Does anyone NOT like him? What is he going through as a new student who had been homeschooled all his life?

...is friends with Chloe. What's it like learning his "only friend" is a bully? How do people respond to this? Does anyone (besides Marinette) fear him or avoid him because if he's friends with Chloe, he must be just like her?

...is a superhero. He could have been spending time learning the history of the ring and trying to develop his powers. Trying to get stronger? Trying to get to know Plagg? What is he experiencing as a highly known model who is also a superhero and having to juggle those dual identities?

...has a dead mom who died of a "mysterious illness". Given that this loss supposedly occurred about a year prior, he could still be mourning her. Maybe trying to learn what happened to her.

...has a neglectful father. How is he trying to interact with his dad? How does he feel about his dad not being around? What is he doing to try to resolve this?

...has a supervillain father. Like, I cannot stress this enough! His dad is a SUPERVILLAIN! His dad is THE SUPERVILLAIN THEY ARE FIGHTING! People were predicting him finding out and joining Gabriel to try and revive his mom! People were living for the eventual heartbreak of when Adrien finds out the truth! Entire AUs, fan arts, and fanfics were born of this very idea! Going into the drama and struggle Adrien would be experiencing being caught between the "right thing" and the girl he loves and his duty vs his father and his mother and his family. HOW CAN THEY JUST IGNORE THIS?!

But we don't get any of that. Instead, we get Adrien...

...just acclimated with no issues in school and automatically friends with everyone. Good for him, I guess. Wish it was that easy for the rest of us.

...doing little besides occasional comments to Chloe as she is completely horrible for five seasons including Chloe stealing from classmates, getting the entire school punished for something she did, stealing a Miraculous, trying to crash a train, and betraying the city to Hawk Moth. But it takes him learning about something she did to Marinette a year ago for him to finally decide enough is enough and drop her as a friend.

...only goes out to deal with akumas as they come but does nothing to try and figure out his powers and history, get stronger, or try to track Hawk Moth.

...just moves on from dead mom. No relevance here aside from wanting to see a movie she was in or making a passing comment about how she got sick. No attempt to find out what happened to her. No questioning what she may have wanted for him.

...is just sad about his neglectful father neglecting him but seems to get over it rather quickly.

...never learns his father is a supervillain. Okay, I take it back. He learns twice and those timelines are erased with no real repercussions other than trauma for Marinette, so it really doesn't feel like they count. The pieces are all there, though! He knows his dad has the grimoire but never questions him about it! Never asks his dad what the deal was with Tibet! No question about how mom died or what is going on with Nathalie or what he's doing with a hidden mechanism in mom's portrait.

Adrien has potential. He has plot threads and aspects that could be used and goals he could have. But the writing does nothing with him, so while he has a number of things he COULD do to move forward and progress as a character or for the plot, nothing comes of it.

And that all boils down to a problem with the writing.

Adrien was chosen over Felix as an "easier" option to keep the story at a standstill so they could drag it out for as long as needed. That doesn't mean it should have been. There were so many paths that could have been taken, but Adrien was given the personality of a wet noodle, so he acts on none of them because that was what the writers wanted out of his character.

#ml salt #adrien salt #ml writers salt #ml spoilers #ml analysis

[sidsinning]

woes for lukanette hit me today big sigh

I'm imagining Mari talking to Jagged and Luka pops into her head and she gets all excited and asks Jagged to sign something for her boyfriend and its a guitar pick ofc bc it's his signature instrument and she even makes a cute pink cushioned box to put it in bc she's Marinette so ofc she does and really hopes he likes it and

#ml #mlb #miraculous ladybug #my girl was trying in this relationship idc what kind of forced adrien love dialogue these writers wanna hit me with #lukanette #luka couffaine #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #viperion #sidrabbles

[motherofplatypus]

The funniest thing about thomas and co watching the finale and explaining stuffs while they're at it is that they made it worse by a long shot. It's like beating a dead bush with a dead horse while digging their own graves.

Explain that Mari is actually aware that Gabe is Monarch? Doesn't explain why she's going to his house without Chat to beat his ass.

Jokingly saying that Jagged's crocodile is important to the fight? Nice joke, but care to explain where this whole Kung Fu trio and pet plot came from?

Said that they had planned that Chat won't be in the final fight with Hawkmoth since the beginning? Good job, his character turned out has always been this worthless.

It was Amelie at the end and Emelie stayed dead? Good to know the last 8 years of her irrelevance actually became irrelevant.

Said it was actually Marinette's win? Of course when the villain finally achieved their goal it is the hero's victory.

They actually believe that Gabe is a hero? Hooray, so glad they actually believe that the terrorist who has no qualms nor remorse for physically and mentally beating his own son that he enslaved for his own business is a hero.

And that's not including how they don't explain how people become Miraculized despite it not being akumatization, or how Lila isn't affected by the nightmare, or why Gabe unified Tikki and Plagg in Deflagration instead of making the wish despite it doesn't requires him to unify them.

And those were from two episodes alone. Imagine if they had to explain other episodes, like Evolution and Derision. How deep can they dig their own grave?

#this is so embarrassing that it's amusing #just shut up and leave the damage as it is #haven't you learn from the last few years? #miraculous ladybug #miraculous salt #ml salt #mlb salt #ml writers salt #thomas astruc salt #ml writing criticism #ml writing critical #ml writing salt

[anna-scribbles]

pov i’m planning season 5

#ml #ml s5 #yes this is about that writers commentary #anna rambles #i feel cool and great and fine about everything forever🫶🫶🫶🫶

[ozzo-the-wozzo]

Hey now that Gabriel is.. ya know… when do you think we’ll get this scene in reverse? Just wondering 😇

#KSJDKSKSKS PLEASE ML WRITERS YOU HAVR THE CHANCE TO DO THE FUNNIEST THING POSSIBLE RN #DO NOT MESS THIS UP #miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #mlb #ml #ml season 5 spoilers #miraculous ladybug spoilers #mlb spoilers #ml season 5 #ml the final day #ml recreation #mine

[mlwritersguild]

February Event Announcement - Request now!

February is fast approaching and we at the MWG have a Valentine's gift for you! For our February event this year, all you need to do to request a fic is say those three little words. Which, simply put, means:

For the next week, we'll be accepting submissions to the blog for the event that consist of THREE words and ONE emoji.

Each request should have three words (separate, not as a phrase). They can be random or carefully chosen. They will be accompanied by a single emoji that represents a trope, AU idea or concept. No more, no less.

Our writers will be challenged to use your three words within their fics, as well as interpret your emoji into a premise for the fic. This means you might not get exactly what you expect, but the surprise is half the fun, isn't it?

Send your submissions now! If your request is claimed by a writer, we'll reply to your ask when the product is completed. Thanks!

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[eddo-tensei]

"Make sure that Adrien never knows about the villain that I was, but instead, that he remembers the times I tried to be a good fathe-"

YOU TRAPPED HIM IN AN ACTUAL WHITE ROOM WITH HIS EX AND MADE LITERAL AI VIDEOS OF THEM DATING TO AIR TO THE ENTIRE WORLD! SHUT THE FUCK UP!

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous #mlb #ml writers salt #ml salt #gabriel agreste #gabriel agreste salt #gabriel salt #ml s5 spoilers #mlb recreation #mlb s5 finale

[miracleandplagueau]

"Join us Chloe. We can be much better companions than that bug."

A little thing I thought of since Queen and Monarch are both royalty titles. Lila being an overdramatic messenger she is, of course she'd use that to sound smart.

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[theerurishipper]

Something I've noticed is that the show goes out of its way to portray Adrien's trauma as romantic.

In Kuro Neko, Adrien is exhibiting a trauma response wherein he invalidates his own feelings and tries to be whoever the other person wants him to be, and Catwalker is explicitly based on the mask Adrien puts on to please his abuser, which is also the persona Ladybug develops an instant crush on. What the show tells us, however, is that Adrien as Catwalker telling Ladybug that it's his own fault for being sensitive because he was hurt by her actions and following that up by promising to take care of her is romantic and wonderful.

In Strikeback, Adrien is once again downplaying his feelings and hurt in order to come to Ladybug's support because she needs him. He is once again invalidating his own hurt and absolving her of all blame. What the show tells us is that it's so romantic that Adrien was willing to push away his hurt feelings and come to her aid like a loyal partner even though she never apologized to him or promised to change her behavior.

In Protection, Adrien's tendency to want to be perfect for everybody and cater to their needs is depicted on screen, with him assuming the full blame for Marinette's confidence issues. He has a whole conversation with Kagami about how he needs to change himself for her. What the show tells us is that Adrien is so romantic and so sweet for essentially assuming blame for Marinette's inability to tell him her feelings and saying that he has to be the one to change and cater to her needs.

In Collusion, Adrien's reacting to his father sending him to London by saying "Marinette and I will last forever," is him clinging to the very little good that is going on in his life. It is him once again centering his identity around this girl and his relationship with her because he has never been allowed to be his own person. What the show tells us is that "Adrien loves Marinette so much uwu."

In Confrontation, Adrien writing "All I know is that I love Marinette Dupain Cheng," is him once more centering his whole life around his girlfriend because he has been conditioned into defining himself around other people because he has never been allowed to an individual in his own right. What the show tells us again is that Adrien loves Marinette so, so much, you guyz.

In Conformation (credit to this post by @youremarvelous), Adrien telling Plagg he's angry at himself for falling short of Marinette's love is also him downplaying his own feelings and placing more importance on her, and him believing that he has fallen short of her love stems from him belief that he has to earn love. He's just shifted from defining himself based on Gabriel's wishes to defining himself based on Marinette's wishes. What the show tells us is that Adrien is such a good boyfriend for wanting to be perfect for Marinette.

The discrepancy between what has been portrayed and what the show wants us to think is concerning, to say the least.

#MLB #Meta #My meta #ML Salt #ML Writing Salt #ML Writers Salt #Marinette Salt #Not really but just in case #Adrienette #Adrienette Salt

[theluckiestlb]

#ml #miraculous ladybug #the number of likes is bananas #I know they’re likely still teenagers and haven’t developed media literacy skills #but the writers have been so inconsistent with Gabriel’s characterization #I genuinely feel like this was supposed to be the audience take away #no irony in his depiction as a hero #Winny had once stated he related most to Gabriel because he was a father?? #it may be carelessness or ignorance #but putting abusers on a pedestal is just 🫣 #I feel likely I’m actively being gaslit #idk #sorry for the ramblings #I still want to write a longer in-depth analysis on the finale #once my thoughts are in order #ml spoilers #miraculous ladybug spoilers #gabriel was a selfish SOB until his last dying breath lmao