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heizerux · 7 months

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YESSSS!!! HE’S PUNK

Now show me emo/punk Adrien 👁️👄👁️

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jacquesthepigeon · 1 year

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What’s the point of Marinette getting beaten down and turned against by the people she trusts most if it’s not going cause some sort of change in her? It’s being treated as just another thing she has to overcome to then be happy she exposed the bullies but realistically being treated like that by pretty much everyone in your life would be pretty traumatic regardless of whether it gets “resolved”. What I’m saying is Marinette should be developing trust and intimacy issues with everyone regardless of if they’re friend or foe.

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sangrestes30 · 1 year

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#miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #ml s5 spoilers #ml revelation #gabriel agreste #nathalie sancoeur #emilie agreste #ml leaks

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schsas · 2 years

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#miraculous ladybug #nathalie sancoeur #gabriel agreste #ml season 5 #ml spoilers #mlb spoilers #ml season 5 spoilers #ml leaks #miraculous spoilers #mlb leaks

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kikigeh · 1 year

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Miraculous had 5 seasons to try and turn Gabriel/Hawkmoth into a good, interesting or at the bare minimum a convincing threat but I feel like, even despite all of the brand new lore and backstory, his impact is pretty meaningless when at the end of the day he is going to be facing off against Ladybug and not someone else who'd make infinitely more sense for him to be battling against.

Hawkmoth really has no business thinking Ladybug is his greatest enemy when his own incompetence is the only thing he has ever battled against and Ladybug's gripe with Hawkmoth has more to do with the fact that she can't live her normal teenager life because she was chosen to be responsible to stop him. There's absolutely nothing that connects the two besides the fact that Hawkmoth wants her miraculous and the fact that they are both connected to Adrien somehow.

There's no clashing ideologies that are put at the forefront, they are in no way foils, Hawkmoth's "noble" motive of resuscitating his wife is impossible to root for because he spends the rest of the show being utter shit to his son so you can't convince anybody that he's a good person who deserves to be rewarded. The fact that at the end he's going to be rewarded with anonymity, a wish come true and his son never once being able to learn about anything about his deeds, all to make the showdown about how Hawkmoth and Ladybug have always been destined to fight against one another... it's just so silly.

The show really is a monument to wasted potential because how do you miss the chance to make it at least the kind of show that you'd recommend wholeheartedly because at least "the ending is good", and instead opt for the silliest kind of undeserved ending for the bad guy? It's seriously kind of depressing.

And to top it all off, the show actually gave Ladybug a formidable foe in Felix/Argos but then tossed that storyline away over... Lila??? Man.

#miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #miraculous spoilers #ml leaks #I dont even think it's ml salt because I'm not angry but instead just SO disappointed #Ladybug is such a cool character in theory but in practice they just keep doing her disservice after disservice #she deserved a worthwhile villain to fight against and she deserved to be more involved in the search fo HM's identity so the final fight #wouldnt feel so absolutely devoid of meaning and reason besides “shes the good one he's the bad one”#it's just so dumb that adrien doesnt have a say in his life either like shit

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geekgirles · 2 years

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Marinette, who only felt a little woozy for like 0.2 seconds after wielding all miraculouses, seeing Monarch having a fucking stroke for doing the same thing:

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theerurishipper · 6 months

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We're in unfortunate implication nation, baby

The Season 5 finale, with the help of episodes like Chat Blanc and Ephemeral, establishes that Adrien's emotions are to be seen as inconveniences or even seen as potentially dangerous in such a way that they need to be controlled by another person. This validates Gabriel's abuse of Adrien by suggesting that he was right all along to control Adrien, lest he goes out of control by being emotional and destroys the world or something along those lines.

By all logic, the Paris special doesn't portray a true morality swap situation, just a story about the same people with the same capacity for good who have gone down the wrong path, but can be brought back to the light. Everyone who is good in our world is good in theirs, and vice versa, as evidenced by the fact that the terrorist children are going to be redeemed but Chloe is still somehow still evil. Gabriel is among those who are considered good.

The above point is further driven in by the fact that Gabriel is akumatized (I forgot the word used in the special and I'm too lazy to look it up) into Guardian Angel in the special, a phrase commonly associated with caring and protective caretakers of any kind even though his son has become a magical terrorist despite his wonderful parenting, somehow.

Gabriel is akumatized into Guardian Angel by Marinette, and considering the revelations from the Season 5 finale, this works as foreshadowing for her siding with Gabriel and essentially continuing his work of controlling his son. Gabriel is named Guardian Angel by her, and in the narrative, this implies that she validates him as a parent, metaphorically now and literally later.

Considering the lack of morality swapping, her actions in the finale and the fact that Marinette is the writers' mouthpiece, this is the writers' way of informing us of the wonderful parenting abilities of Gabriel Agreste, reinforcing the idea that Mr. Monarch is not evil, just misunderstood.

In fact, the Paris Special has Claw Noir be a murderous villain who is willing to Cataclysm his opponents in a universe where Gabriel is a good father, leading to the conclusion that Gabriel's lack of abuse and control of his son has led him down this dark path. The implication being that he needs to be abused or else he'll become a villain.

And this is supported by the fact that Gabriel akumatizes Chat Noir into an angelic version of himself, complete with the angel wings and white costume and all, showing us that Adrien on his own is prone to becoming a volatile monster and needs Gabriel to keep him line and turn him into the angel he is today.

I hate it here.

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zoe-oneesama · 1 year

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What do you think about Lila being the next villain, I know you appreciate her a lot and in your fancomic you redeemed her but the canon can be very different

I know she's supposedly getting away with some pretty intense stuff this season and will apparently up her schemes, but ultimately...I'm just not scared of her.

Like, maybe down the line, in the future if she acquired the Butterfly Miraculous somehow, THEN she'd be threatening. But the show has hammered in pretty hard that having a Miraculous as a child is a disadvantage. I get Lila is "good" at manipulating people, so she'd be decent at making akumas, but then she'd have to detransform and the akuma would be completely left on it's own. I mean, great for creating an alibi, but not great for guiding your akuma into victory. Especially when people can fight off their akumatizations now.

And really, what's she got up on Gabriel? Now that we know she's got multiple families and can go missing from THEIR lives for long stretches at a time, I guess she's the only kid who could take up for Hawkmoth, but that just kind of evens things out. If she were just a normal kid, she'd be caught pretty quickly, or would at least have many things working against her.

She's not an adult, so she can't hold her transformation after making an akuma (at least, I'm assuming that's the equivalent for the "5 minute countdown after using your power" rule for the Butterfly or Peacock), she has no lair or way to cultivate butterflies, she doesn't have the grimoire (unless she got it when she got all that info on Gabriel and Nathalie in that episode that I haven't watched). It's only because she's the biggest fraud freak in fiction that she even has a shot.

Because she is a freak, not because she can outwit everyone around her - it's because the laws of nature don't apply when she's involved. The universe warps itself so that she can come out on top, so instead of Lila coming across and a master planner, schemer, and manipulator, you can chalk up any of her wins to Complete Contrivance. You want heroes AND villains to earn their wins, not be handed them.

So while the writers will make concession after concession, contrivance after contrivance, and have no one react like an actual human being would, all in the name of making Lila as a villain a formidable foe, I just can't bring myself to care. Or even be worried.

But then, I was never impressed with Gabriel either.

#lila salt #writing salt #ml spoilers #miraculous ladybug spoilers #ml leaks #nothing named specifically but just for safety

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supergirl9130 · 7 months

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So uhh yeahhhh shadybug

#ml spoilers #ml leaks #? I guess #my art #artists on tumblr #marinette dupain cheng #miraculous #ladybug #miraculous ladybug #ml art

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myladynoire · 1 year

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The Graham de Vanilys (1970s)

(Just read the Representation script… I like to imagine that the family gave Émilie the Sirius Black treatment after she abandoned them)

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous #emilie agreste #amelie graham de vanily #emilie graham de vanily #someone pointed out the similarities between sirius/regulus and emilie/amelie #they're so real for this #miraculous spoilers #ml spoilers #ml leaks #miraculous leaks #representation spoilers #ml representation #ml season 5 spoilers #miraculous season 5 spoilers #mlb season 5 spoilers #miraculous fanart #my art

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anxresi · 1 year

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I’m Sorry, But We REALLY Need To Talk About THIS from the leaked scripts.

Out of the MANY downright idiotic and plainly risible events that occur in future episodes of this accursed show, THIS is the Big One which stands out to me as being utterly beneath contempt (and it’s got nothing to do with Audrey being a balloon, funnily enough).

Who the hell does Andre think he is, giving himself a divorce JUST. LIKE. THAT. Pretty sure even mayors don’t have that power.

Also, how can he adopt Zoe out of the blue? (don’t forget: he’s barely even LIVED with her for one season, and not even say her name for THREE) He hasn’t asked her, and as far as I’m aware, they never even discuss it before the end of the season.

Come to think of it, what does her ACTUAL father Mr Lee back in New York have to say about this bizarre situation? Is he going to fight this sudden whim of Andre’s in court? Is he dead? No-one knows, sorry. Expecting any kind of logic from Miraculous is like waiting for it to rain chocolate milk in the Sahara during the middle of summer, I guess.

Andre has a point with Audrey, of course... but who was it that caved into his daughter’s worst excesses while his wife was regularly away? Who let her have everything she ever wanted, so she became the spoiled brat we know of today? And who’s set to avoid prosecution for YEARS of political corruption, just because he now wants a quiet life as a movie director with his oh-so-perfect adopted daughter? Here’s a clue... he’s wearing a big sash!

But suddenly ‘redeeming’ Andre and relieving him of all responsibility to his daughter’s conduct (not to mention avoid punishment), it just goes to know how DETERMINED the show is to vilify Chloe and give her the WORST possible outcome (even ahead of ACTUAL TERRORISTS like Gabriel) even at the expense of changing past events, and radically modifying other character’s personalities at the drop of a hat if it suits their painstaking ‘Chloe sux lol’ agenda.

But seeing as they’re pretending Chloe was ALWAYS a complete monster with no moments of humanity now, at least they have form in this department. They must hope the audience has amnesia at best, or are complete fools at worse. Well, there’s nothing with MY memory Mr Astruc, and I may not be a genius but my IQ is comfortably three figures last time I checked. Better luck with the rest of the fanbase though!

You can just imagine Thomas personally BEGGING to animate that last shot of ‘Chloe Looking Worried’. Probably offered up the life of his firstborn grandchild. That ****ing *****...

Anyway, please spare a thought for Chloe being forcibly taken away by her lifelong abuser on a plane to further damage her permanently, I guess. “Take Control’... yep, I’ve heard those words before...

All at the behest of ‘Father Of The Year’ Andre, who I suppose is now meant to be some kind of hero for subjecting his now estranged daughter to even more trauma at the hands of his despised ex.

But it’s all okay! He likes Zoe ‘the best’ you see, so he can quite happily turn off his conscience now that the show has seen fit to allow him to escape any kind of karma, and start a new life with no regrets. YAY!