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elisa-011 · 1 year
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Happy (belated) Valentine's Day 💝💝💝
Mike watching his beloved El in awe until she falls asleep is HEADCANON. 💜💛
They're the most comfortable in each other's presence.
Drawn digitally with Sketchbook mobile. Base from Pinterest.
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bylersrise · 7 months
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what if? will went from no.1 midleven hater to no.1 shipper (season 3->season 4) was because he didn't want to make his feelings more obvious than they already were.
"if i show more support towards their relationship then maybe they won't know"
idk just a thought cuz bro switched up real quick
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whatarenargles19 · 2 years
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"You're the weak one coz you'll never know love or friendship and I feel sorry for you" - Harry Potter
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pjo-fan17 · 2 years
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Jokes on the antis. The duffers have made it abundantly clear that Mike is their favorite character with El close behind ✋
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rosesradio · 2 years
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i think the issue with st is that it is too much of a fanservice show at this point.
like they can’t let any of their main cast die, like eleven or steve or hopper (don’t get me wrong, i’m glad they’re alive, but still). they cater to milkvan fans with those fanfiction-y scenes (noah fence). they even tried to please their queer audience initially, but not at the expense of their straight audience, so they ensure certain things are never said and queerbait ensues.
i think the first season was the only one without fanservice (because obviously they didn’t fully know what fans would want with those characters yet). after that, pleasing the ga pretty much became the only thing on their mind, and they stretched it so thin that they did the opposite, and now it feels like everyone lost
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clarkegriffins · 2 years
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everytime listen to boys dont cry i instantly get byler feels, like this is their song, by the time the song starts playing i'm already sobbing
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flaringgoosebumps · 2 years
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Mad World by Tears for Fears is in Mike Wheeler's basement beats got me like:
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Forever.
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Why?
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I'll be crying in the corner, thanks
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leggomyayygo · 1 year
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HELLO??? 👀
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wheeler-fan · 2 months
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Can we please talk about how people downplay Mike's trauma over losing Will and El?
Mike lost Will, first Will went missing while returning from Mike's house which probably made Mike feel guilty, then he literally watched his body being fished out of the water, there was even a funeral. People don't pay attention to how hard these days must have been for him - and why? because Will is back, safe and sound. People in the fandom and the characters in the show, no one pays attention to it. Fans think that how much Mike cares for Will in season two is a reflection of his romantic feelings for him - no one wants to connect it to his trauma. The characters in Stranger Things don't pay attention to it either because Will is back so it doesn't count, everyone talks about Nancy losing Barb but no one talks about Mike because at least his friend is back.
Mike lost El, and he was literally going crazy even though he had only known her for a few days. He fell into depression and couldn't come to terms with the loss so he was calling her for 353 days. Her return is a miracle from heaven for Mike, and the way he behaves after her return, how much he cares for her, what makes him look like someone who wants to control her even though he doesn't. All this is the result of the trauma he had to go through alone without any help. People say Mike has no trauma which always surprises me because people see Nancy's trauma after losing her friend or Joyce's trauma after losing her lover, so why can't they see Mike's? because the two people he was mourning are back, and no one cares about Mike's feelings anymore. This boy had to (still has to) do everything he could to look like a normal teenager without any problems because no one took his problems seriously anymore.
remember, this post is not about romantic things related to this character, it doesn't matter if you ship byler or mileven, this is a post about mike and his trauma, take it easy, thank you
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ven0moir · 3 months
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i really need to know what mike and will talked about during those two phone calls
that ... sort of playful tone between mike and will that started during the "not possible" conversation likely bled into those two phone calls. at the very least the first one? the most recent one.
part of me thinks 'but maybe mike was too depressed and also irritable during those phone calls? or short? yknow like how milevens think' and then i remember that according to el, will was 'acting weird' 'painting a lot' 'maybe it is for a girl' he was doing the cute shit you do when you have a crush, like in that 16 candles movie
and, i'll go into this later but these calls somehow relate with my analysis on what will's s5 horror arc will be like
and some elements of it i feel mirror s3 el's arc--she was basically the hero in the end by undoing billy's mind control. the overall tone of s4 in terms of will's arc i think will mirror the cabin horror.
the cabin in the woods was on the inspo board for s4, which means we're definitely getting to some wood horrors which im excited for throw some 'the thing' and 'evil dead' tension in the mix? and i'm all over it
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elisa-011 · 1 year
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Shhh! 🤫 They're newlyweds...
They enjoy the most beautiful moment of their lives. 🥲🤧💜💛💍👰🤵‍♂️💒
Mike and El Wheeler 💜💛 I'm not crying, I swear... 🤧😭
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itsjustbyler · 2 months
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I've read your Mike post and even if I ship mileven I agree with most of it expect ofc the internalized homophobia part. So I will ask what would change for you if Mike is confirmed straight and doesn't have internalized homophobia? Would you dislike Mike?
Hi!!
Well if he truly doesn't have internalized homophobia and is in fact straight, then Mike is still smart, compassionate, brave and someone that would fight for the people they love. However, I would say the writers messed up his character/storyline.
First, sidelining him as El's boyfriend and nothing more since season 3. He doesn't have an storyline for himself in this scenario. He is just a boy who can't say ily to his girlfriend. Even if they wanted to go for only that rote, they haven't even gone deep into that. They could have Mike actually explaining how their parents relationship messed up his head, his trauma and all, witch is what most people speculate. But they decided for "Mike can't say ily because he is scared that it's gonna hurt when El dumps him" (?).
Second, his storyline in S3 and S4 are basically the same. "Mike is only 14", you would say. However, characters need to have a grown even if they are young. A character need to go from point A to point B. Look at the other kids who are also 14 yo. A character can be young and immature but they need to show how this is changing throughout the seasons with their actions and behavior. Look at the difference between Will in S3 and Will in S4 for example. He was also sidelined but even with him having the same struggles as in S3, he behaves completely different about it in S4 and it shows that he has grown.
Mike and Els relationship also is the same as S3. Mike lies to her, she gets mad and dumps him in S3 and they separate, then El lies to Mike (fact that is completely forgotten btw) but since he can't say ily she gets mad, fight with him and they separate again.
They ad unnecessary drama into Will and Mike's relationship too. There are so many ways to portray Will's sexuality without Mike involved or without Mike behaving the way he did in S3. Mike completely ignoring Will in favor of his relationship.
Why? Will could have been jealous and he was, but that was not what leads to their rain fight or their fight at Rink o Mania, is the fact that Mike ignores Will to focus on El and they were suppose to be best friends. Some people gets mad with Will for call him out on it as if he should have just accept this treatment and is acting based only in jealous.
So, if this doesn't have a deep meaning, out of nowhere Mike started acting as a bad friend. And that's the opinion of the GA. Search Mike Wheeler on Google and you will see for yourself. Even on reddit, the most mleven place you can find, there are people saying the same thing.
And that's really sad, as I said in my other post, people tends to hate on him without trying to understand the meaning of his actions. Could this behavior be because of depression and trauma? Of course but then they fail to show it. Again, we can only speculate. I know you probably will disagree, but there is more evidence for Mike to have internalized homophobia than to just be depressed, witch we already knew he was.
And that would not explain why his behavior is directed especificaly towards Will, the boy who is in love with him and that he had a deep relationship with in s1 and even more in S2, such a coincidence... Again, Mike is oblivious, he doesn't know, he doesn't suspects that Will is gay and even if he did, he would not treat Will like that only bc of it. Mike is not a homophobe.
And that is on the writers. There are Mike and El shippers that thinks that we will hate Mike if he turns out to be straight, however Mike is not the problem. Is the writers and how they decided to portray him and the relationships around him. Mike will still have the same qualities he had before, I will still like him, however I would just ad bad friend sometimes into his flaws.
ty for the ask!
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chickenskins101 · 4 months
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mike wheeler
okay so with all these set photos coming out and these arguments between byler, and mileven, i think it’s time we start focusing on MIKE WHEELER.
people think that he is some b!tchy dude who is mean to his friends but people always forget that he has trauma too. but see, his trauma isn’t exactly from the upsidedown itself like wills, els or max. his comes from everyday struggles and i am here to speak my truth about that.
let’s not forget how heartbroken that kid was when his BEST friend will disappeared. I mean we’ve all seen that one scene where dustin and lucas are arguing and he’s in the middle look so depressed. for a whole week, he’s looking for will. this guy tried to 💀 himself. yeah yeah he did it for dustin, and im sure that’s part of it but for his teeth? they were baby teeth too. but he lost el, had a big fight with lucas, his best friend is still missing, and is living on one ounce of hope that will is alive after seeing his “dead” body dragged out of the water.
he grows a connection with el, then loses el. on the positive side, he did get his best friend back, but that doesn’t change the trauma we went through. but how can he express that trauma? i mean, his best friend is suffering from bullying and the side effects of coming back to life all year. how pathetic would it look to him if he started going, “when you went missing, i went through hell.” not to mention he couldn’t talk abt that to his mom or sister because barb didn’t come back. nancy has to deal with losing her best friend. at least mike got his back. that’s all that is going through his mind.
when el comes back, he can’t talk about the depression he went through after knowing what it felt like to lose will, and then to lose el for a whole year. she’s got all this trauma from the upsidedown and the lab. once again, he would look stupid if he started talking about his depression.
then his best friend and girlfriend move away to the other side of the country. cleary that destroyed him. i mean he prob thought that he would have will and el his whole life. will, who he has known for like what a decadeish? is gone. can he mourn, be sad, tell his friends that his two favourite people gone is killing jim from the inside? no! and why? because max just watched her step brother die. (i’m not a big fan of that arc cause he was literally so abusive). anyways max is going through it, thinking about what she could’ve done, isolating herself from lucas and the party. he once again probably would feel selfish if he were to mention that in front of his friends.
eddie was his friend too. cleary, he looked up to him in some shape or form. but he knows that dustin was closer AND had to watch him die. mike, wasn’t there for yet. he’s probably going through it too, knowing that someone he cared for is gone. does he even know that eddies dead yet? (pre s5 time skip). but dustin had to watch him die so it feels like him mourning would be more pathetic cause at least he wasn’t there. he can’t be as sad as everyone else when max his in the hospital bc he isn’t close enough like everyone else. that’s one of his best friends girlfriend, he has if way worse.
people forget that will and el weren’t the only ones bullied!! (dustin and lucas are also forgotten, that’s a post for later!). he was bullied his whole life too. he almost died because he was bullied. bullying, especially at a young age will affect you. i’m not excusing any of his fights he’s had with el or will, but apart of trauma and not getting help for it, means you are going to act as what you hate the most.
even the unrelated upsidedown stuff makes him look pathetic. his dad is there physically, but not emotionally. that would put a toll on anyone, having a dad that is never trying to bond or connect with you. but can he say anything about that? wills dad abuses him, dustin doesn’t have one and max had hers replaced with an abusive stepfather.
his whole life, he felt like his trauma want important enough because everyone has it worse than him. i am not shaming any other characters for their trauma, their traumas are just as important. what im trying to prove is that he isn’t some butthole teenager. he is a teenager who feels alone and keeps his feelings hidden until they explode.
plus, if you are a byler fan or a queer mike truther, you can add on to the fact that he probably hates himself for being some different weird losers who wants to be with his best friend, a man. that probably breaks all rules he grew up with.
add all these things tgt, and you get a very emotionally drained teenager who needs help.
(all the kids need therapy, srsly, why is max the only one in therapy. each kid has gone through sm, im not dissing them or ignoring their trauma, everyone’s trauma is equally important and ill make another post about each character in the future).
i really hope they talk about his trauma and depression, this dude has gone through and yet feels like it’s not important enough.
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does anyone relate to me as a queer muslim?
Just wanted to put a disclaimer that I personally am not acting on it but I did find a way to reconcile my queer identity and religion <3
I grew up mostly thinking I was straight but in my teens I didn't label with heterosexuality anymore. I was never really passionate about queer activism but I recall being uncomfortable with homophobia at masjid and gatherings but I never thought about it too much until may 2022
That is May 27 2022 to be specific, the stranger things release date. Im not going off topic lol I promise. So basically I converted from being a mileven shipper to a byler shipper after watching. This was when my queer religious crisis started. I loved Mike and Wills relationship and I thought it was so beautiful from the way they treat each other. I was reading fanfics, watching edits, reading analysis 24/7. How could it be wrong
I knew that the logic with ''Sinful'' actions is that even though you desire benefits coming from it, and you intend good things to come out of it, the reason why its a sin is because unseen harmful effects come out of it even though that's not what we intend. ''But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.'' I could deal with the fact that queer actions were forbidden cause that meant you don't hate the sinner or the ''Sin'' but only the fact that your action has ''harmful unseen/unknown affect'' that you just have to trust in God that its there and that he would only make harmful things forbidden. For example: Promiscuity is a sinful behavior in islam, and God considers it disgusting because it is harmful, but in Jannah all the harmful effects of your desires are removed, this explains why alcohol and hoor al ayn, music etc exist in Jannah. So can I act on my queer desires in Jannah? I made the horrible mistake of going to cishet people with this question and obviously they said NO. I was so fucking pissed and mad and I felt guilty for being mad because it felt like I was questioning Allah. But mostly I was hurt because God is not who I thought he was and I felt ignored, betrayed, neglected, and I took the queerphobia as my image of God. It just made me even more pissed off when people said '' you will get something better'' why can't I get what i asked for and be treated normally like everyone else with their forbidden desires? After suffering an entire lifetime of homophobia and abstinence, God wants to brush this issue under the rug and ignore it even though it becomes a part of who a person is, where is the justice?? At that point I felt like if I couldn't get queer liberation in the next life for myself I would want it for someone else and I would fight for it. I had mercy in my heart for queer people. So this does not make sense cuz GOD IS THE MOST MERCIFUL, more merciful that any lgbtq+ activist on this earth, so God surely must out mercy me
I went through a religious crisis period for 6 months just constantly soaking up all the queerphobic media online from muslims. I felt sick reading all of it and I felt my heart drop. Why do muslims deny that queerness is not a choice. Why do these scholars have rights to speak on issues they've never experienced. How can a person tell another person how they feel. How can you deny centuries of queer people and why do some muslims make fun of queer people, hate us, think were disgusting etc. I really never felt any righteousness or respect from these people yet they say ''respect not support'' tf? I started getting depressed, failing in school because I took these people and modeled my image of Allah based on them. Why wont I get what I want in this life or the next? So my love was considered ''disgusting'' for no reason.
Then months later, everything changed. I started talking to God everyday and treated him like my therapist and I vented out all the pain of queerphobia. I did scientific research on queerness and found out that is generally innate/unchangeable and internalized homophobia turned into anger towards queerphobic people. I was just crying out to Allah wishing that Queer Love could be honored and respected one day and that slowly, naturally it turned into me making dua to Allah that queer people could act on it in Jannah. I for some reason thought it would be more acceptable to ask for queer relations without the sexual aspect lmfao my puritarian era. So anyways I slowly started making Dua to Allah often and asked all the time for queer liberation in the next life and for people I knew in real life, online, my moots, queer muslims who passed away etc. I turned the anger of queerphobia into calling out to Allah to ask for liberation for the queer ummah. I eventually also asked for the sexual aspects as well lmfao. I remember one day I prayed tahajjud and asked Allah for queer people to be with their lovers in the next life and to be themselves (gender identity) and I asked for a sign. I even talked to Allah about my love for byler lmfao dont judge me ok I was crying my ass off at the van scene where Will confessed to Mike. So anyways the ''Sign'' as I saw one day I was cleaning my room and read a book that said that Allah would never guide a person to make a dua if he didn't want to answer it. I was shook and long story short I learned that God is what you make of him and you must trust God when you make dua to him. Another Sign I saw was that I was a video literally explaining this concept in a tik tok another time after I made tahajjud and asked for the same thing again.
My perception of God has fundamentally changed and I am so grateful. Byler endgame 2024 <3
im just gonna quickly note that this blog *does* support acting on your queer attraction and i, as the mod, have multiple partners. i choose to interpret the stories that supposedly ban queerness otherwise (some of these interpretations are or will be shared in #resources) and that any harm that comes from it can either be mitigated (safe sex practices) or is the result of bigotry
but thank you for sharing your experience anon. genuinely happy that you managed to reconcile both with yourself and Allah :]
and hey, i get what you mean abt the fanfiction part skdfjh ! some of my earliest experiences w queerness were reading queer fics on ao3 and feeling,,, something. something i couldnt quite identify till years later. fics exposed me to queer romance, helped me come to terms with my allosexuality, and even helped me experiment with my gender in a way. i owe a lot to fic writers
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theyaregayyourhonor · 2 years
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Headcanons of platonic mileven and madwheeler and very not platonic byler 'cause why not?
Mike: Max, I can't believe I'm saying this but, I
Mike:
Mike: need your help
Max: Oh really? *smug smile* With what, Michael?
Mike:
Max:
Mike: El can you help me?
Max: C'mon!
Jane from the other room: I'm busy drying Will's hair
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Will and Max skatebording and Will is actually pretty good at it (man can load a gun and survive the upsidedown for a week that's nothing)
Mike 'heart eye' Wheeler
Jane: Mike, you're drooling
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Max: Because I SAID SO!
Mike: Well that's not a very good ARGUMENT!
Max: EAT YOU'RE STUPID HAT WHEELER!
Mike: NO, I FEED YOU WITH IT FIRST!
Jane: What are they arguing about?
Will: I'm not sure anymore, it started with comics but now it's just a screaming contest.
OR
Will and Jane in the livingroom at 3 am eating highly sugared food with soda and watching cheap horror that is so bad it's now good
Mike falling from the window they left open face first next to the couch while Max is opening the door laughing
Mike: You said the door is locked
Max: I lied
Jane: Friends don't lie
Max: Sweetie, Mike and I are not friends, his my target and mortal enemy
Will: You cried in his arms after the dog died the last movie night we had
Max:
Mike:
Jane:
Will: and he is your emergency contac
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At Hoppers
Will: You put it down first
At Wheelers
Mike: No, no you put it down first
At Hoppers
Will: No, YOU put ut down first
Jane eating cereal while Jonathan waiting next to Will for his turn at the phone
At Wheelers
Mike: You-
Max who is there to help Mike with math
Max: No I'll put it down first.
Mike: He-
Max: Next time I'm cutting the cable
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Mike: I love you
*looking deep into Will's eyes who is blushing*
Will: I-
Max: Oh well thank you Michael. I didn't know you felt that way
*Max falling into their laps and smiling up at Mike*
Jane looking up from her book: Did Mike just walked back into the closet? Again?
*Will burst out laughing as Mike shoves Max of off them*
Mike: Way to ruin a moment Max
Will still laughing: I- I... i lo-ve y..ou tohooohahah
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Jane: Mike what did you do?
Mike confused as he looks up from his comic
Max: Will is all depressed, Wheeler.
Mike goes on hands and knees in front of Will apologizing for everything
Will: Max!
Max: It was El's idea
Jane 'smug face' Hopper
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queerlermind · 8 months
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𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪
hallo? im miles / mya (but prefers miles)and im fifteen 𓆩 ♱ 𓆪
i have a bit of ADHD , mild depression , im dyslexia (idk how to spell such big words lol) , jealousy issues , anger issues , social anxiety (so im very awkward at times) (:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅:♡:]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅)
i am pansexual , polyamory and genderfluid :)
pronouns are he / him or they / them ˖♡ - ̗̀ ⇢ ৎ୭
dni if ; homophobic , racist , mileven fan , byler anti (byler hater) , overage (unless u arent a creep) , ships kids with grownups (on st and etc) ˚✩. . °
my postings will mostly be about byler & boreo , sometimes other ˏˋ ♡ ˊˎ gay shit <33
𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪𓆩 ♱ 𓆪
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