#mdzs nie sect

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

While you were fighting in the war, I was falling in a pit.

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#poorly drawn mdzs #mdzs #wei wuxian #nie mingjue #jiang cheng #lan wangji #jin guangshan #blood #Not tagging wen xu because I...I don't think he ever comes back in the story after this. #Minorest of characters despite his significance in the wen sect. #You guys ever think about how the three months WWX was missing was probably the closest LWJ and JC ever were? #The missed friendship between them is so deliciously painful! They really do have a lot in common! #Maybe it is because they are similar that they can't make it work past the war. #Maybe it is the similarities that make JC feel even worse about WWX drifting away from him and towards LWJ. #This is all to say I think the dynamic between LJW and JC is very interesting and not something I see talked about. #In the *end* it becomes something along the lines of 'LWJ ignores JC' but god. Missing the same person so painfully. #The grieving takes very different form but they both still grieve the same person - essentially in isolation from everyone else. #Other notes I *need* to add: The end of ep 13 took me out with the falling scream. Why did they do it like that? #Genuinely the funniest thing I have heard. #I like to imagine he fell plinko style. Bumping around on random branches and ghosts for 3 months.

[lazycranberrydoodles]

soggy failgirl sect leader

while i was looking for the reference pic i found out someone already did this for shang qinghua lmao

#for those wondering what the chinese means its just ‘i hate being a sect leader’ over and over #what do you think did more psychic damage. losing his brother or the years of accumulative stress #mdzs #art #mo dao zu shi #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #the grandmaster of diabolism #the untamed #cql #nie huaisang #mdzs meme #lmao #digital art #my art #sketch #doodle #魔道祖师 #陈情令

[retiredpeach]

Nie Huaisang

#mdzs #mo dao su zhi #modaozushi #mdzs art #nie huaisang #nie sect #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #the untamed #danmei #illustration #drawing #digital art #mxtx #mxtx mdzs #mo xiang tong xiu

[momzawa-5]

Hear me out…

Ok. So. In the world of MDZS, sect leaders and their heirs are determined based on lineage following a fairly common order of succession.

Jiang Fengmian dies, it goes to his son.

Nie Mingjue dies, it goes to his brother.

And so on and so forth…

This is also true of the Jin sect, with the caveat that any child born of the sect leader’s blood seems to have a shot at becoming sect leader, not just those born of the sect leader and his wife (Also just realized this applies to the Nie sect, too, considering the Nie brothers have different mothers). Which is how “son of a whore” Jin Guangyao became sect leader, bypassing next-in-the-order-of-succession Jin Ling, who was still a child.

So, because Jin Ling is still a child when Jin Guangyao dies, leadership of the Jin Sect *should* theoretically go to the next adult in the sect leader’s bloodline.

And who would that be?

Mo Xuanyu.

…and that’s the story of how Wei Wuxian got the last laugh and became leader of the Jin sect.

#mdzs #mo dao zu shi #wei wuxian #and then jiang cheng promptly qi deviates #nie huaisang planned it all along #fuck the jin sect though #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #cql

[frankencanon]

you ever think about the fact that nie huaisang's father and brother both died the exact same way — forced into qi deviation via a third party

you ever think about how nie mingjue's obsession with getting revenge for his father's murder might have been foreshadowing for nie huaisang's own obsession with avenging his brother and utterly destroying jin guangyao

you ever think about how nie huaisang is a lot more like nie mingjue than most people realize

#the untamed #cql #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #the untamed spoilers #cql spoilers #mdzs spoilers #mo dao zu shi spoilers #nie huaisang #nie mingjue #nie sect #nie clan #jin guangyao #meng yao #spoilers #grandmaster of demonic cultivation

[lgbtlunaverse]

So since mxtx has said that in novel canon nie huaisang is eventually going to end up being chief cultivator we can presume the headshaker thing, while based on his existing personality, was in fact an act and he is way more competent at his job than he's let on. And with Jin Guangyao dead and gone he has no reason to put on that act anymore.

Imagine being an Nie cultivator. Your flopppy incompetent sect leader comes home from traumatic events after it turns out his older brother's sworn brother- who's been over to your sect basically every other week for years now- is the one that killed said brother and you're fully prepared for tears and dramatics. And while you definitley don't like lianfang-zun since it just came out he killed your last (way more competent) sect leader he was sorta the one holding the sect together so you're bracing yourself for the worst, and instead he's... stoic? Paperwork is suddenly getting done well and on time without help. He's not wailing during negotiations anymore and you're getting actual good trade deals for the first time in over a decade. He answers questions now? With something other than "I don't know i don't know i really don't know!"

And even if you had none of the revelations wei wuxian had in guanyin temple, slowly the realization creeps up on you that all his earlier embarassing antics that cost your family their comfortable livelihoods and your sect their good name was on purpose. And from there it's not that hard to put two and two together. The rest of the cultivation world assumes the shock of jin guangyao's betrayal has finally forced the headshaker to grow up a little but you have worked side by side with him for a decade, probably even watched him grow up under his brother's rule. You know better.

How do you feel at that point? What can you even do? He's your sect leader. And he's finally doing his job, things are looking up, shouldn't you feel relieved? It' not like his incompetence really caused any deaths among the nie, just wiped out generational wealth and reputation that will take years and years to build back up. Is it really reasonable to only start hating someone for something when they've stopped doing it? Thereby proving that they were capable of stopping all along?

#mdzs #nie huaisang #mdzs meta #sort of? #oh the urge to write a fic from the pov of a nie cultivator oc feeling INCREDIBLY conflicted about nie huaisang #the absolute generational culture shock between the nies that grew up under lao nie and nmj who watched the sect decline in adulthood #the nies that grew up under flop era nhs and have only ever heard of their better days until things start improving again #and the ones that will be growing up under chief cultivator nhs who kind of can't imagine that he was ever THAT bad. #the rumours must be exaggerrated right? #like 13 years postcanon a 15 year old disciple a 27 year old cultivator and a sect elder are all gonna have DRAMATICALLY different opinions

[rejectedfables]

Given the way that Headshaker Huaisang goes to Jin Guangyao (and LXC) for solutions to so many of his problems, possibly/probably including struggles with running a sect, do you think maybe the Headshaker persona was as much a part of the revenge plot as it was a veil to hide behind? Like, oh you killed my brother, the head of the Nie sect? Fine. YOU run the sect then 🙃 It needs a leader and you killed him so now it's YOUR fucking problem, and I'm going to make it an incredibly annoying problem. Not a single cog will turn smoothly 🙃

#nie huaisang #Mdzs #mo dao zu shi #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #the grandmaster of diabolism #mdzs meta #Nhs #And if he didn't ask for help with political things then just 'watch my sect fall apart because of what you did' I still a twisted knife #I don't GET Huaisang but no one can accuse me of not trying to #spoilers

[restingdomface]

Nie Minjgue: *blatantly lying* My brother would never do that, he’s the laziest man alive!

Meng Yao: *watched NHS stalk a songbird for 3 days to catch it* :/

Sect Leader Yao: *has been stalked and threatened by NHS for the past two months and is coming to beg for help to get rid of him* …I can’t refute that…

Nie Mingjue: Good, don’t! *plans on giving NHS a new set of paints later for his service, no idea why he did it but sure it was deserved*

#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation #the untamed #mdzs #incorrect mdzs #incorrect untamed quotes #nie huaisang #nie mingjue #sect leader Yao #Nie brothers

[monkeymakoko]

You heard him. It always works.

(Read from left to right) 💜💚

#sangcheng #nie huaisang #jiang cheng #jiang wanyin #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #gransmaster of demonic cultivation #cql #my art #fanart #the untamed #monkeymakoko #nie sect #jiang sect

[b0dwr1ter]

#sect leader yao #jin guangyao #su she #Lan wangji #lan xichen #lan qiren #nie mingjue #Nie huaisang #Jiang cheng #Wen qing #jiang yanli #mdzs polls

[wangxianficrecs]

Inter-Sect Politics for the Absolute Beginner by Elpie (Horribibble)

Inter-Sect Politics for the Absolute Beginner

by Elpie (Horribibble) (@elpiething)

M, 3k, Wangxian

Summary: Today, with a formal missive from Koi Tower in hand and Zonghui staring at him with open concern, Nie Mingjue throws his head back and laughs and knows that no request will ever bring him such joy: Sect Leader Jin Guangshan has been brutally assaulted and, due to a conflict of interest, the Jin sect begs the assistance of the Honorable Sect Leader Nie Mingjue in the search for justice. - Wei Ying was raised in a brothel in Yunping, and Sect Leader Jin is having a very bad day. Kay's comments: Incredibly funny! Had me grinning the entire time. AU where Meng Shi was the one who found Wei Ying and took him in, offering him a home in the brothel. So, he grew up alongside Meng Yao and one day, when Jin Guangshan visits the brothel, Wei Ying is not going to stand by and look as his adopted family gets mistreated. Rest in pieces, Jin Guangshan's nuts. Excerpt: Without missing a beat, the young man laden in silks and ornaments and the almost tangible love of every courtesan in the room laden upon him like so much armor looks Sect Leader Jin dead in the eye and says, “A shitty lover, an angry drunk, but most of all an asshole.” Personally, Mingjue could not have asked for more. Except, perhaps, to borrow one of Huaisang’s fans to hide his face. “Young master,” Lan Xichen speaks up, ever the voice of gentle reason. “This is perhaps not the best defense…” For a moment, the youth stills, blinking at the elder jade, surprised by the sound of genuine concern. But then he takes a deep breath and plants his hands on his hips, clearly not having any of it. “It’s the truth.” He levels his gaze, once more, upon the gilded pervert. “You’ve got twenty kids at least, including A-Yao, so I know you know how a brothel works. You’re not new. If you’re coming into our houses to be a rotten bastard, you should just leave.” The only other man among the courtesans glaring death upon Jin Guangshan, has the spine to call, “Ying’er.” But Nie Mingjue suspects very little has ever deterred this man, least of all being called little baby.

pov wei wuxian, pov nie mingjue, canon divergence, canon era, wei wuxian isn't adopted by the jiangs, non-yunmeng wei wuxian, courtesan wei wuxian, brothels, bamf wei wuxian, jin guangshan being an asshole, justice, families of choice, crack treated seriously, humor, different first meeting

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#Wangxian Fic Rec #The Untamed #Wangxian #MDZS #Kay's Rec #January 2023 #short fic <15k #Mature #Inter-Sect Politics for the Absolute Beginner #Elpie (Horribibble) #pov wei wuxian #pov nie mingjue #canon divergence #canon era #wei wuxian isn't adopted by the jiangs #non-yunmeng wei wuxian #courtesan wei wuxian #brothels #bamf wei wuxian #jin guangshan being an asshole #justice #families of choice #crack treated seriously #humor #different first meeting

[carrot-felisidad]

If you think about it, Nie Huaisang's plans aren't as meticulous as Jin Guangyao's. His plans could be stopped immediately by unforeseen forces with enough bad luck, like what if Mo Xuanyu was not banished and instead killed? What if the ritual did not work? What if JGY denied his cryings in the Koi tower, disabling the messenger to deliver the letter to Qin Su? What if Qin Su wasn't that repelled from the fact that they're siblings? What if Qin Su did not believe the truth about their son's death? What if Si si refused to drop the bombs? What if the Sect leaders refused to believe the two random and unknown women? WHAT IF WEI WUXIAN DID NOT PLAY "WANGXIAN" IN THE DAFAN MOUNTAIN?

So many plans were released to the wind with a little prayer "I hope this works!", and you know what? They did! Because Nie Huaisang isn't actually an evil calculating meticulous mastermind who has plans from A to Z. That's Jin Guangyao. NHS is an artist, a theatre kid, and a grieving little brother.

He was also sided by the gods. (And the author)

#i still refuse to believe that he's evil #yeah he put some kids in danger #and I'd like to think he has buffer support for the kids #in the donghua his sect disciples are in it #and the entire sect actually knows that their cute little sect leader is just a baby #and also a hidden genius #nie huaisang #nie mingjue #wei wuxian #lan zhan #mxtx mdzs #mo dao zu shi #mastermind #jin guangyao #meng yao

[bichens-bitch]

Nie Huaisang is literally the funniest fucking character to exist. He is so smart and so resourceful and single-handedly created an entire revenge plot, but also was the porn distributor and flunky of the cloud recesses crew. He’s such an icon. 

#nie huaisang #mdzs #mo dao su zhi #mxtx #nie sect #lan zhan #wei ying

[lemxonsol]

“HeadShaker Nie”

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#illustration #mdzs #mdzs fanart #mdzs fandom #danmei #fanart #mo dao zu shi #mxtx mdzs #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #nie huaisang #nie huaisang fanart #nhs tags are crazy tbh #nhs #i might be tagging a high school whoops #nie mingjue #nie sect #nie brothers #mdzs nie huaisang #mdzs nhs #mdzs donghua #the grandmaster of diabolism #mdzs art #mdzs drawing #mo dao su zhi #mxtx fanart #mxtx characters #mxtx novels #danmei fanart

[writeitinsharpie]

ever think about the great sect madams of the generation before?

about madam yu, the violet spider, one of few in her generation to earn a title (even her husband was only ever sect leader. even wen ruohan was never regarded by a title other than sect leader wen). about yu ziyuan, about what she was like before years of jealousy and envy twisted her to only her most bitter parts? about the girl who was the third daughter of a sect leader, and then the wife of another, and yet all of her immense martial power meant nothing to the society around her.

about madam jin, known only by her title and never given a name or a natal sect, who was still somehow the closest friend to yu ziyuan. the mother of the sect heir and yet a wife who can do nothing but stand by as her husband dishonors their marriage over and over again.

about madam lan, the murderess locked up for her crimes, never seeing a trial and dying alone, only allowed to see her children once a month. who was she before she was the wife of the lan sect leader? was there a reason she killed the lan elder? did she want that marriage to qingheng-jun? did she even want the children she was kept from?

about the madams nie and wen, who only exist by implication, by the knowledge that their children exist and therefore so must they. about how so little is even implied about them?

#sharpie says shit #ma dao zu shi #mdzs #cql #madam yu #yu ziyuan #madam lan #madam jin #madam nie #madam wen #idk i just find the women of the generation before Very Interesting #mostly because we get barely anything about them compared to their husbands #madam lan is the exception but only kinda because there are still SO MANY QUESTIONS #this isn't madam yu apology btw i just think looking at her character is Neat #she is obviously a woman of great physical power #but due to the state of Being Female all of her social power is basically dependent on jfm #and i think years of being powerless while Wanting More takes their psychological toll #also how did she and madam jin even become friends? were they sisters? sect sisters? sworn sisters? #we're never told

[benevolenterrancy]

okay, since I've finished the books, I've been watching bits and pieces of the show. among the many wild changes it includes, my favourite so far is definitely Nie Huaisang smuggling an entire ass bird into the Gusu lectures in his sleeve, what a legend

also the fact that Meng Yao is directly behind him for all of this and is, presumably, having a conniption...

#mdzs #the untamed #cql #wei wuxian #nie huaisang #jiang cheng #meng yao #jin guangyao #lan wangji #gusu study arc #wei ying #wwx #lwj #nhs #jgy #did meng yao think it would be easy to drag nhs up to gusu for his third go? no. #did he think it would involve nhs embarrassing the entire sect within the first five minutes of the first lecture? also no. #he is secretly so fucking relieved that the wen decide to gate crash and be The Worst #my art