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creative-author · 15 days
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Princess and the VK
I am thinking about uploading my descendants fic here. Does someone like to read it?
The Idea: Princess Tayla and her Brother Nic attend the Auradon Prep. After Ben asks them to help with the preparations vor the VK arrival, Nic disappears and Tayla has very much to deal with the core four. But she helps them wherever possible.
After everything turned out good, with Maleficent now being a lizard, the Cotillion comes closer. Suddenly, Tayla herself needs help with her brother still missing and well, being turned into a frog like her parents.
Finally, when Audrey wants revenge, Tayla cursed and, thanks to Audrey, enchanted has little time to help the other VKs rescue Auradon, before she herself disappears.
If only someone could help her out, maybe with a true loves kiss?
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dragoneyes618 · 1 year
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Carlos thought that if the girls had been their sisters, Mal would have been their annoying, grumpy sister while Evie would have been the manipulative, pretty one. And if Jay had been his brother, he'd be the kind who was either laughing at you or punching you when he wasn't stealing your stuff.
The Isle of the Lost, pages 226-7
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hexenwrites · 1 year
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Mal: You need a hobby. Jay: I have a hobby! Mal:: Hitting Carlos isn't a hobby.
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Mal:
On the Isle of the Lost they say: I'm going to grind you into the pavement.
In Auradon they say: Let's dance.
I refuse to believe that the Isle kids do not challenge eachother to a duel by saying „Let's dance,“ at least some of them. Namely:
Jay (because come on-)
Anthony Tremaine (he likes being fancy)
All three Hook siblings (they are drama queens)
Oh, and Evie! (She deserves a treat)
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Descendants Canon: Meet the Notorious Nine
(Mal, Evie, Jay, Carlos, Uma, Gil, Harry, Azalea and Aricka Kore Page.)
(CW: heavily implied child abuse.)
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Aricka Kore Page was good at observing. She was queen of the shadows after all. They were her domain, her birthright as daughter of Hades. Her smoke-blue hair and cobalt blue eyes were a dead giveaway as to her her father is, and her pale skin and vicious cackle was a dead giveaway as to her mother.
Right now, she was observing Gaston Jr and Trois, who were arguing loudly over something, and she crept closer to further eavesdrop.
“I should be the one to shoot it down, I saw it first.
“No, I’m older. I deserve the pride of shooting a Bore-adon limo down,” Jr growled. Her blood ran cold at that statement.
An Auradon limo- a MARKED Auradon limo- on the Isle of the Lost-?! The last time they were there they were investigating the kidnapping of a prince from one of the kingdoms. The prince was never found but if he’d been a baby then they never would’ve. The person who did the deed would’ve hid their tracks way too well for them to find him.
Breath in her throat, she scampered through the shadows to the Dragon’s Den. Her twin sister’s domain. Here, Aricka was a mere lackey, not a princess, but that was just as she liked it. She would defer to her twin’s rules anytime she wanted. She chucked the largest rock she could at the “Falling Rocks” sign and as a soon as the stairs were low enough she leapt up and took them two at a time.
She tripped on the last step and fell into the meeting area of the room, startling Evie and Carlos who were also there with Mal. She scrambled to her feet, “Mal-!” She panted. Hand over her chest to regain her breath. “Jr-Trois- Auradon limo- HERE-!”
“Easy, Aricka,” Evie guided her to the ratty couch in the Dragon’s Den, where they both sat down. “Slow down and catch your breath. Then tell us what you saw in the shadows.” Carlos moved to get Aricka’s favorite item in the Den- a soft ratty, holey purple blanket that didn’t smell like mold or seawater, but instead Evie had sprayed it with a liquid that smelled nice. She’d called it lemon verbena. It smelled like the sunshine Aricka loved seeing in Auradon.
If a limo was here that could only mean that Ben had successfully convinced his parents to agree to the VK Isle Reformation Proclamation.
“Mal…” she says, once she could breath without panting. “I heard Gaston Jr and Trois talking about shooting down an Auradon limousine- if they were correct and they saw a limo here on the Isle-,”
“Then that reformation plan you mentioned when you got home was agreed to.” Mal says, crossing her arms. “Which means we need to plan. Carlos, Evie, go to the Junk Shop and make up and excuse to drag Jay from his dad’s grip and grab Azalea when you do.” She turns to her twin. “You and I are going to the docks to grab Uma Gil and Harry. They’ll leave Jonas and Desiree in charge of things while we talk. Meet back here when you get them, E and Carlos.”
With plans in motion, the four teens went about their respective tasks.
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Fifteen minutes later, the well named Notorious Nine were assembled in Mal’s carefully hidden Dragon’s Den:
Demigoddess Fae Mallory Bertha Page, eldest daughter of Maleficent and Hades, legally adopted stepdaughter to Lady Persephone of Olympus.
Demigodess Fae Aricka Kore Page, youngest daughter of Maleficent and Hades, legally adopted stepdaughter of Lady Persephone.
Future vizier in training Jadir Ali, son of Jafar and an unknown mother.
Princess Evelyn Rose Grimhilde, daughter of Lady Regina Grimhilde and Graham Humbert, Regina’s Huntsman.
Super genius Carlos Oscar de Vil, son of Cruella de Vil and William Cecil Clayton.
Captain AND Princess Uma Adira Nautica-Facilier, daughter of Ursula and Dr. Draven Facilier.
First mate Harold Everett Hook, son of Captain James Hook and Queen Narissa.
Master-at-Arms Gilbert Castor Legume, son of Gaston Legume and Paulette Dupont.
Azalea Ixoria, daughter of Hyacinth and an unknown father.
“Right,” Mal says. “The day Aricka said would come has come. Uma, I trust your crew is ready for a seamless transition from your rule to a crew mate of your choice?”
“I selected Jonas, son of Razoul and Mother Gothel, for temporary Captain and Desiree, daughter of Shan Yu and an unknown mother as First Mate,” Uma says.
“For Master-at-Arms I picked Bonnie, daughter of Evelyn Deavor and Arthur Harrow,” Gil added.
“Hadie is taking over the shadows while I’m gone”, Aricka said, knowing that she would go by default to help whoever was going to Auradon.
“Ginny Gothel and Hermie Bing are in charge of our turf whilst we’re away,” Mal adds. “The orphans have been moved into the basements of Bargain Castle, Uma’s Fish and Chip Shoppe, and the various ships we have in our control.” It wasn’t the best solution but it was the only one they had. “Harry, does your older sister know which children are moving onto her ship?” The eldest Hook sibling had procured the Arabella when she was 16, five years prior. She had a fine crew she’d carefully accrued over her rule as captainess, and when Mal had first proposed this manner of action she was the first to join the force.
“Aye,” the first mate drawled. “She’s cleared all the space she could, just waiting for the signal.”
“Uma, your crew ready for new crew members?” Mal confirmed. The teal-and-aquamarine haired captain nods.
“Jonas, Bonnie and Desiree know that they are to let any orphan child who says the code onboard. If they don’t know the code they have to vet them carefully, but if they pass the test they may also be sent aboard.” They would never turn a child away unless they tried something like actively murdering a crew member or one of the main Notorious Nine members, but they still had to be cautious in their actions.
Mal nods. They knew Auradon would pull the key players off the Isle first, to get a feel for things, so they’d been preparing for this day even though it seemed like a crap shoot.
Now that it was here nobody really liked the idea of leaving their turf so exposed, but it was for the good of the kids on the trash heap of a “home” they lived on that they would go.
“Aricka. We have an idea of how things will work thanks to you, but we still have to make sure we don’t meet their expectations. They want us to be evil, so we need to blend in as much as possible. This is where your expertise comes in. You will have to guide us through the social aspect of everything along with Evie, and make sure we don’t make a spectacle of ourselves,” Mal says, locking eyes with her sister. The sapphire-haired princess nods, having expected this.
“Jay, you Harry and Gil are on bodyguard duty. You’re the three strongest looking guys we have, and they’ll be expecting you to be ruthless and mean. So while you are the muscle you’re also to be kind and earnest and you need to each find a hobby that doesn’t purely rely on your strength.”
“Does this mean I can’t play Tourney?” Gil seemed genuinely upset about that notion, and Uma was quick to assuage it,
“No, Gil, you just need another hobby that shows how much of a good person you can be, like drawing or making jewelry or something.”
“Harry, you can join my sewing business I’ll be starting in Auradon,” Evie offered quietly. “We can say that once you get settled in Auradon you realized you didn’t just like sewing basic repairs but you had an eye for fashion as well. Once you get comfortable as a tailor you could start your own shop, and we could be allies in that regard.”
Harry blinks at this, considers, then shrugs. “Might as well, Blueberry,” he says, which was as close to an agreement they would get from him.
“Jay, use your parkour abilities to join some dance classes, show the perfect prissy Auradon kids how the Isle does dance,” Aricka Page says, teasing her allies for how they addressed her mainland friends.
Jay considers this, knowing Aricka would have been able to find classes that fit all their strengths and personalities. “Yeah, that could work… great suggestion Aricka,” he says and offers a hand for her to high five. The shadow princess smiled brilliantly at the Agraben, and reciprocated, interlocking their fingers and shaking their hands.
(It was no secret that Jay had a huge soft spot for her, her having been the one to discover the true atrocities his father committed against him, and had dragged him to her dad one night when it was particularly bad.)
“This has to work, guys. Our parents will likely make us try to get the wand or something to break the barrier down, but we have to play the long con, which means no stealing the wand. We have to be smart and vicious and ruthless but loyal.” Mal looks around the Den. “Head back to your respective parents. They’ll expect us to be oblivious so act like nothing is amiss.” The crew assembled nods their understanding. “Disperse. Meet at Bargain Castle with your parents when Maleficent assembles us.”
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Thirty minutes later, the well named Notorious Nine were shuffled into an expensive looking limo marked with the Auradon royal crest.
The time had come for a new era.
Whether it was for better or for worse was yet to be seen…
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@astralshipper @rosieshipper @hyperionshipping @sappy-secrets @tsundere-selfship @yeehawselfshipping @letsgofoletsgo @callsign-revenge
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kanzakurawrites · 1 year
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Do you have any headcanons about the other parents of the VKs?
YES
Evil Queen used Evie as a servant for most of her life, only stopping when she realized how dirty Evie was getting
Cruella tried to train Carlos with a dog whistle and a spray bottle - but with the water on the Isle being so dirty and likely toxic it caused Carlos to get sick. While Cruella didn't care about that, she didn't want to get sick, so she stopped with the spray bottle, and then with the whistle after finally realizing that he couldn't hear it. (The Isle made her a lot more unstable)
Jafar has tried to arrange marriages for Jay with those on the Isle who might be able to have wealth in Auradon, such as the Evil Step-Granddaughters and the Queen of Hearts daughter, but it never worked out. He's tried multiple times to pair Jay off with Mal.
Gaston takes his boys out "hunting"... make of that what you will.
Gaston also managed to bribe one of the Auradon guards to bring over some chickens and a rooster so each of his boys, and himself, can have five dozen eggs a day.
Hans is actually a pretty decent father. If you ignore the fact that he's taught his kid(s) all his manipulation tactics. That aside, he's also taught them how to read, write, mathmatics, history, etiquet, etc.
Smee loves his kids, but he isn't exactly always there for them. Because of this, Sammy took care of his brothers growing up more than his father did.
Anastasia is a good mom. Along with taking care of her own kids, she takes care of a lot of the orphans on the island. And Dizzy has practically become hers.
On a similar note, Drizella is not a good mother and has A LOT of children, all girls. Some of her girls are as high-strung and rotten as she is, but the younger ones (like Dizzy) have become little "Cinderella's".
Surprisingly, Lady Tremaine tried to stop it, but never succeeded.
Ursula taught Uma all the Greek myths and legends, and would repeatedly tell her that one day they'd get off the island.
While he's an amazing father to Celia, Dr. Facilier wasn't the greatest dad to Freddie and does regret it (even if he won't admit it)
Like Hans, Captain Hook made sure his kids knew how to read and write. He also taught Harriet and Harry how to read maps, create maps, as many constellations as he could remember (many drawn out on paper), swordfighting, and pretty much everything that goes along with being a pirate. (He would have taught CJ, but after his wife's death he pulled away from her - CJ looks the most like the siblings mother)
Mother Gothel treats Ginny like a maid, but isn't the worst parent. The worst she's done is drag on Ginny's appearance to make herself look better (which is bad, but on an island of villains, better than a lot of kids get). Somewhere in her, she might love Ginny, but at the end of the day Mother Gothel is an incredibly selfish woman.
(A similar headcanon that can also be true is that Mother Gothel is actually Ginny's grandmother, and Ginny is Cassandra's daughter only Cassandra willingly let her mother raise Ginny in order to protect her as Cass isn't the most popular on the Isle)
The Huntsman has taught his kids everything he knows and they do animal control - they can't really harm the original hyenas who were thrown on the Isle, but they can take care of the never ones.
Morgana kept having children in hopes that eventually one would transform while under the barrier, but it never happened. Over the course of twenty years, she managed to have 15 children and had to open up her own school.
Edgar lives quietly in his very run down apartment in the square where he and his son run an animal grooming business. With how many "evil animal sidekicks" there are, it goes surprisingly well. He has to leave the room whenever a cat comes in, though, so Eddie does a lot of the word.
Yzma tends to conduct very dangerous experiments in her attempt to do magic.
The Stabbington Brothers have raised their children together, so the Stabbington Cousins are really more like siblings. With that said, the brothers have been determined to raise children who will become better thieves than Flynn Rider, and better fighters than themselves. The fighting has gone good, but the they're never satisfied with the Cousins thievery thanks to Jay always managing to beat them.
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ayoitspatricia · 2 years
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Hi do you still write for disney's descendants? if so can you do headcanons of being siblings with the VKs? and if possible the siblings came with them to the school. sorry for my bad english
Being siblings with each VK + going to Auradon with them would include :
IM BAAAAACK!! It has been a while since I have posted so I am currently working through requests :)
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Mal :
Homie would be overprotective af
This lady ain’t having any Auradon dweebs getting you on her watch
Always encouraging you to be the best version of yourself
Or in Maleficent’s case the worst
Y’all are not that big on boys, girls etc before Mal meets Ben
Mix and matching leather jackets
Being the biggest chaos causes wherever you guys go
Finding it hard to be positive about school when Mal wants you to be miserable about it all
Her helping you to control your powers which are cool im gonna be honest
Sharing differences and similarities with Mal
She just wants to keep you safe from bad people in the world
Ironic for a VK right?
Especially from rats in Auradon
Feeling pressured by your mom when she wants you to steal the magic wand
Liking Ben and not finding it difficult to adjust to being good
Evie :
Now this one encourages you to interact with others
She wants to get you as far out of your shell as possible
Cause poor girl ain’t got a clue what will happen if you all get caught stealing the wand
Wanting you to get a partner
But asking them lots of intimidating kind questions if you do
Doing group sewing + art!
Always trying on each other’s clothing
Having matching magic mirrors
Creating a Chad hate club
Evie being the favourite child but always defending you
Going on shopping sprees when you arrive at Auradon
Trying hard to empress everyone
But then realising that it is really impossible
Evie wanting to dye your hair
Her chasing you around with the hair dye
Actually secretly wanting to be good from the beginning
Carlos :
Always being super close to each other
Thing 1 = you / Thing 2 = Carlos
Actually quite liking dogs
Lol your brother did not like that one
Until you got Dude obviously (you was his fav)
Always having super fluffy jumpers or cardigans
Enjoying sweet treats with him at midnight
Literally menaces to the cooking club
Softest member of the VK’s
Collecting stuffed animals to annoy Carlos
Then proceeding to throw them at each other
Fairy Godmother actually really liking you
You going into Remedial Goodness 101 early so you both can have a chat
Honestly loving the Auradon vibe
Cheering Carlos on when he plays Tourney
+ shipping him with Jane!!
Literally acting like kids the whole time
Wanting to open an animal club in Auradon
Tbh you was already sliding to the side of good as soon as you arrived
Jay :
My mans is on a whole other level of protective
Like you thought Mal was bad
Whether your on the isle or in Auradon this boy has your back
Him always glaring at the boys whenever they look at you for too long
Even at poor Carlos, who has no clue what is going on
Teaching you how to steal
Reminding your father of Jasmine
You + Evie + Mal are the perfect trio
Doing laps around the museum to try and find any lamps
Not your proudest moment ngl
You plus Lonnie equals BESTIES!!
Jay making you always watch him play sports
Stealing his beanies all the time
Hiding in spots around Auradon so he has to try and find you
You best hope that none of them princes disrespect you
Cause they gon get an ass whoopin
Honestly not caring about whether you’re good or not
As long as you have your brother and your friends
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humaforever · 2 months
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Random things that have become increasingly popular in the descendants fandom that I love
This isn't even 'made up' by the fandom, but all the De Vil children (Carlos, Diego, and Ivy) are cousins. So apparently Cruella has a bunch of siblings. I have no idea who they are, but cool.
Back in the day it was either Harriet Hook is dating Anthony Tremaine or Harriet Hook is dating Ginny Gothel. Then one day people were like, "Hey, what if..." Now they are all dating each other and are in a throuple :)
In addition to the previous statement, not a popular opinion just a random thought. There are three single people in the main descendants movie characters. Gil, Audrey, and Jay, and you always see them mixed in a couple somehow. I'm honestly surprised they are never put together as a throuple, or that's it ever even considered as an idea anywhere.
There's like a new mim kid every week. Only one of them is technically canon. But that doesn't matter, all of them are loved.
There's also a ton of Tremaine cousins now as well.
Claudine Frollo became a fan favorite and a lot of that may have started because everyone decided she was baby and she needs love and affection because she is Claude Frollo's daughter.
Claudine is also pretty strictly into women and has definitely had a bit of a crisis over it.
It's few and far between that you find an isle kid that is completely straight.
Even though the writers completely ignored it, we have accepted Hadie as Mal's brother and we love him here.
It is a popular opinion that Squeaky and Squirmy are not the Smee kids' real names, and I am completely on board with that. Because what the fuck kind of names are those.
Marya Rasputin. Anastasia isn't even technically a Disney movie, which I'm pretty sure is where the idea for this character came from. But Marya is a part of Disney's descendants now, it's been decided, it's official.
We lost Doug along the way. RIP bro. I haven't seen anything about him in the descendants fandom in ages.
Uma and Audrey have only interacted with each other once in canon, in the royal wedding (which we all ignore.) But they are besties, they just are. Audrey gets along with a lot of the VK'S for that matter.
Sammy Smee hasn't been able to catch a break since Harriet Hook acquired siblings. The chaos started when Harry was born.
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shiftingtomydrs · 4 months
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descendants dr (rs with other vks)
Mal: so were basically kinda similar from the personality type (in my cr as well tbh haha if you put out the social anxiety and shit) so we clash sometimes but were like sisters and she sometimes thinks im naïve and tries to take advantage of me (like with the love spell thing e.g. or the whole wand plan in general) but I look right through that and she respects that lmao doesn’t stop her from trying tho.
Evie: she and i are good friends but like her and mal are a bit closer bcs they got to know each other earlier but were kinda like a trio (evie and I bond a lot over that we both like auradon opposite to mal in the first 2 movies). Also we both share the love for like clothes and taking the time to look put together iykwim?
Carlos: hes like a little brother to me, we all know Cruella treats him like a slave and my mom ignores me completely so we bond over that and also idk he just reminds me of my sibling lmao
Jay: idk before the movies happen were kinda friends of friends aka we know each other bcs my friends are also friends with him (sounds a bit mean now that I say it out loud) like we still get along and stuff but were not like friends yk? I don’t really like the womanizer thing he has going on (I find it childish haha sorry not sorry) and he doesn’t really like that im ‘stuck up and hate fun’ (his words not mine). once were through all that shit we grow closer together tho.
Uma: she used to be friends with mal and when mal and her fell out she by extension started to hate me and everyone else bcs we didn’t drop mal for her (I know a person like that in rl and believe me its not fun) I tried to stay friendly with her bcs friends are hard to come across on the isle but she just completely cut me off and ignored me
Harry: used to have a crush on me which is also why hes so keen on slicing ben open lmao he was a bit creepy like too straight forward and wouldn’t take no for an answer (idk he just strikes me as the type tbh)
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isleofdarkness · 5 months
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What were different kids project focuses?
Rose's research paper was on wasp conservation and her "what I want to be" went on about her desire to become a wasp expert and work in conservation.
Ace's research paper was on why wolfdogs and foxes are unethical pets. It wants to own a zoo for abandoned exotic pets and wants to breed certain dog breeds (it is particularly angry about French bulldogs and great danes) to be healthier.
Hadie's research paper was on how the Underworld works with and without xer dad. Their paper was about how, when they grew up, they wanted to help their dad with the Underworld. They have so many good ideas and they would be willing to take over the socializing part for their father because he cannot stand crowds and Olympus in general.
Mal's research paper was on the claw of Chernobyl. She knows so much about the claw. She went and found it and took selfies of herself sitting in it with the radiation alarm flipping out. She wants to open a series of hospitals for kids with severe issues- emotionally disturbed, RAD, homicidal, etc- a bit like a home for disturbed kids. Only she will actually try to help the kids rather than lock them away from public view. She's gonna hire nurses for the staff and will treat the patients like people. She hopes to get more research done towards rehabilitation of these patients, or at least ways to give them a higher quality of life. She saw Children of Darkness and lost her entire mind.
Mischa's paper was about his beloved siblings, about how he raised them and fought with everything he had to keep them alive. He wants to open a charity to help people out of sex work. On the Isle, almost all sex workers are there because it's either that or starve. So he wants to set up a shelter where they can stay. It would have doctor services and a bunch of programs to help people learn a skill so they won't have to go back into sex work, as well as helping them on their way to independence. There would be an open door policy, too. If someone who previously stayed found themselves in the "sell yourself or starve" situation again, they're always welcome back. He doesn't want anyone to be forced to go through what he went through.
Ivy' paper was on Diego, Veronica, and Carlos, and how proud she was of all of them. She wants to set up rehabs focused on children and teens, because most rehabs are geared towards adults. That's not good for the kids who desperately need help and she's going to do something to fix it.
Evie's report was on Ash, on how loving that little girl taught her to love herself as she was. She wants to own a fashion line that trains and employs the impoverished and people who struggle to get a job. She's also going to hire diverse models because everyone deserves to see someone like them on a magazine, and she already has several accessible lines drawn out (such as the magnet closures that make it easier for Riah to dress.) No one should be forced to wear something they hate just because they can't wear anything else. Self-expression is for everyone.
Jay's paper was about his cousin Jade, who he loves like a sister, and the aunt and uncle who were far better parents than his father. His goal is to do major league tourney so that no one he loves will ever have to worry about money. His main worry was he wanted Ruby to have the medical care he may need, and doctors are expensive. But he'll find a way to pay for it.
Claudine's paper was about a sister she refused to name but clearly loved to pieces, and how much she owed her sister, how much she wanted to see her again. She and Rick Ratcliffe plan to make a charity for religious abuse survivors to help them live a good life after their trauma. RA trauma can be so insidious but so few talk about it, so they're gonna do something about it.
Gil wrote about his sisters, some brothers, and his siblings who are not really either one. His plan is to work with LeFou and continue helping disabled children. There's not really much else he can do. Oh, and he wants gender-affirming surgery and for his siblings (most of them) to be safe and happy.
Carlos wrote about Diego, Ivy, and Veronica, about how much he owed them and how they refused to let him pay for any of it. Ivy and Diego are the reason he made it past age two. He doesn't care what he does when he's grown, as long as he's with them.
I'll reblog with some others during intermission
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hannahhook7744 · 1 year
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List your most unpopular opinions on Descendants (from books to movies)
Thanks for asking!
I do not hate any of the kids (I.E. Mal, Chad, Doug) just the writing and the adults minus Coach Jenkins.
Coach Jenkins is the MVP of the adults and no one can change my mind.
There should have been two isles to eliminate the possibility of children being created or no isle at all.
Belle and Beast are terrible parents, and FG is not much better.
Aziz, Hadie, and Ellie should not have been deleted/discarded. In fact, NONE of the side characters in the books or movies should have been.
Descendants would have been better as an espiodical show. Animated or not. It would have definitely made the writing a lot better.
They should have made better use of the characters that weren't Mal.
They should have had Mal seem more remorseful for actions pre-d1 and after. Her not seeming genuinely remorseful and taking the blame for her actions ruined her for me in a lot of ways. Which is a shame because she use to be my fav.
They should have not forgotten the kids hobbies/interests like they did. Sure. They remembered Evie's and that Carlos was good with tech (vaguely) but they completely forgot about Jay and Mal's.
At the end of d3, the kids should have been running to find their isle friends and their cousins/siblings, NOT their parents who were shown and implied to be abusive.
The aks and auradon adults should have had to change more instead of just the isle kids being the only ones to adapt.
Yen Sid is not the best in my opinion. He's kind of a dick in some ways (like in the Sorcerer's apetatince if I remember that mickey mouse movie correctly).
They should have been given more info about the characters they just made up (Arianna's parents, Reza's dad, etc).
Oh and they definitely should have taken more care with Gil's character. Don't get me wrong. I love him. But he has a lot more personality in the books that they could have utilized. He and Evie and Carlos (and later Chad and Audrey) and even Doug (that man loves fashion. I am telling you) could have bonded about fashion since he can sew and all. Like come on.
That's all I got for now. But I have a lot of strong feelings on all of this.
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dragoneyes618 · 9 months
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More details about how the Isle kids cannot process or interpret emotions....
@tiredflowercrown tagged:
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Yes to all of these.
Ginny doesn't even know what she's feeling.
Mal was raised to be a perfect copy of her mother. But she doesn't want to be her mother, she hates her mother, but she doesn't know what else she is besides a mini-Maleficent, so she hates herself too. Anything that's close to her, she pushes away, rejects, makes them as unlike her as possible. She did it with Maddy. She did it with Uma. She would have done it with Evie, eventually, if they hadn't gone to Auradon.
The only way Jay ever earned his father's approval was through stealing. Even years later, he'll habitually steal little trinkets to gift to Lonnie without even noticing.
Evie doesn't know how to have any relationship with anyone that isn't seducing a prince.
Sammy Smee was raised in an violent environment full of anger and shouting. Even once he was on Harriet's ship, well, Harriet also gets angry, and also shouts, because she was raised in that same environment. Sammy can't understand anything that isn't like that.
Freddie and Celia don't trust anything that's for free. Everything has to be for something. Everything is in exchange for something. No one is simply "friends" with anyone, they have to be getting something out of it. It's only a matter of figuring out what, and making sure you won't be left at a disadvantage. (And it can be inferred that Freddie and Celia had one of the better childhoods on the Isle, so if this is their view on relationships, imagine everyone else's!)
Squeaky and Squirmy trust Sammy to be their provider, their teacher, their caregiver, and no one else. They don't know how to relate to anyone who isn't him. They just sort of shut down. Not with their father, who loved them but never tried to protect them, not like Sammy did. At least Sammy tried. Not with the Hook siblings, who were always getting involved in various dangerous shenanigans and who scare them, just the tiniest bit, even though they also help them and take care of them. No one but Sammy.
Dizzy....Dizzy has two examples: Anthony and Lady Tremaine. (Her mother never even pretended to love her. Her aunt was too beaten down to show it.) Anthony loves her, and everyone knows this. But Anthony was raised to be a lord on an Isle full of the dregs of society, an Isle where everyone ridicules those with pretenses to greatness. Yet his grandmother insisted, and he doesn't know how to show anything but his facade. He tells Dizzy he loves her, and he does, but he speaks coldly, strictly, harshly. He rarely, if ever, shows anger. No outbursts of emotion; hardly any emotion at all. No raising his voice. No playing games, no hugs, none of the things Dizzy would like to do. And Lady Tremaine....she really barely feels any emotion at all, not anymore. Of course she loves Dizzy, she says. She's her grandmother. What kind of grandmother wouldn't love her granddaughter? If only Dizzy would do her chores quicker, better, quieter. If only she would behave well. Then she would surely show Dizzy that she loved her, more than just saying "Of course I love you Dizzy" without even a smile and sending her off to the salon. Or so Dizzy believes, anyway. Anthony has inherited far more of his behavior and mannerisms from his grandmother than he would like to believe.
And Claudine. You see, Frollo usually does not lose his temper. He rarely shouts or rages. He prides himself on keeping perfect control on his emotions. And so Claudine doesn't associate loud noises or shouting with his anger. No, she associates frighteningly calm voices, in an even tone, with no expression, excoriating her with the harshest of words. And of course she thinks she should be hurt. Anyone who cares about her would hurt her as a punishment, so she should learn to do better. She doesn't like it, of course, but it's what has to be done, right? Right?
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mudpuddlenl · 3 months
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My headcanon of a VK hierarchy
(Thank you wikipedia list of Disney Villains. I will be listing canon VK's that apply where necessary)
Rank 1 (Reflections) Kids of the "13 reflections of evil" (the 13 villains that are used most often in Disney's marketing). Often these are gang leaders (or at least high up in the gangs). Messing with any of them is a really, really bad idea. You're going to end up dead, or, if you're lucky, severely wounded.
Evil Queen (Evie) Chernabog Queen of Hearts Captain Hook (Harry, CJ, Harriet) Maleficent (Mal) Cruella de Vil (Carlos) Ursula (Uma) Gaston (Junior, III, Gil) Jafar (Jay) Oogie Boogie Scar Hades (Mal again, Hadie) Dr. Facilier (Freddie, Celia)
While some with strong connections to these villains (such as Diego and Jade) will be elevated higher due to this, they won't be in rank 1. They're more likely to be somewhere in rank 3 or 4.
Rank 2 (Big-name VK's) Kids of villains that might not be part of the reflections of evil, but still have big name recognition. Think of a disney villain, which ones outside of the reflections of evil are likely to come to mind first? Yeah, those are in here.
Examples, but not conclusive: Claude Frollo (Claudine) Horned King Tremaine family (Dizzy, Anthony, unnamed cousins/siblings of these two) Madam Mim (Maddy) Mother Gothel (Ginny) Prince Hans Shere Khan Yzma (Yzla, Zevon) Shan Yu
Rank 3 (Small-name VK's) The villains that are in movies but that you're not likely to name if asked for a villain, or even have to check a list for in order to remember them. I'll be listing their movie with them.
Examples, but not conclusive: Amos Slade (Fox & The Hound) The Stabbingtons (Tangled) Edgar Balthazar (Aristocats) The Ringmaster (Dumbo) (Hermie)
I truly am not in the position to give more examples in this rank since it really depends on each individual person tbh, but you get what I mean.
Rank 4 (Protected) Sidekicks, family, gang members, kids; if they are under the protection of higher ranked VK's they go here. This is where Jace and Harry Badun, as well as Reza, would fall. Possibly the Smee kids, Diego, and Jade too, but those might be able to make it into rank 3.
Rank 4 might have a hierarchy within itself, but it's not as formal as the actual isle hierarchy. For most if not all kids on the isle, this is the highest rank that one can climb to; anything higher than rank 4 is unachievable.
Rank 5 and lower Honestly, these are harder to be specific about since we don't really have any examples. These kids aren't really VK's. Their parents were sent here for crimes, yes, but they're not villains the same way the above are. Crimes can range anywhere from minor offences to murder. There is likely a rank system between them too (which is why I listed it as rank 5 and lower) depending on the crime the parents committed, but ranks 4 and up don't often bother with them unless they're recruiting (in which case the ones joining go up to rank 4)
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tiredflowercrown · 8 months
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Sometimes it's easier to think about the hurt, than the joy.
In other words, here's another story about the Isle
'Til you let it out (and let it in)
There’s something people don’t really talk about on the Isle, and they certainly don’t talk about it once they're off. It’s an open secret really.
Everyone knows that the Isle isn’t a good place. That it is filled with the worst of humanity, and then some of the worst creatures. So it shouldn’t come as a shock that they abuse their children. They beat, manipulate, scar, and do far worse to their own flesh and blood.
This is why, when you get a knock on your door and you see a friend, family, ally, or even just someone you know standing there, the desperate look in their eyes that mimics the same look you’ve had before, you let them in. Now it doesn’t mean you have to treat them well, just give them a space to hide for the night. This wasn’t free of cost of course, but it was a shelter.
So when Mal and Jay tangled their legs together, shivering from the cold in a drafty castle. It wasn’t unusual. Most either knew or could infer about Jay’s home life and no one dared to speak about Mal’s. A perfect partnership, hiding the other from the sins they could only hide from for a few hours.
It wasn’t abnormal to see Carlos climbing into Evie’s window, blood staining his hands, desperate to hide just for a night where she wouldn’t look. Evie helping him, desperate to talk to someone, anyone, other than her mother. They would sit side by side underneath the window. And when the sun rose, she helped him out of it, knowing the next time they would meet, it would be just like this.
When the storms or memories were particularly bad, that’s when you would find CJ sitting by one of her siblings beds. They understand, having needed to find the other before, and just curl together or walk around. No words needing to be said, no direct actions to be taken. Only peace. Only the other needed.
When he forgets again, perhaps just about her, is when Freddie finds herself standing in a shoppe or in front of a ship. Uma will know she’s there, they always know when the other is near. Sometimes Freddie would help clean or run the shoppe, other times they would just sit on the edge of the docks, staring into the darkness, wondering if in a different life they could have been the other one.
When Anthony opens the door and sees a young girl, with curly black hair and the faintest tinge of red in her eyes, he lets her in. Never saying a word to anyone that she was there, just hides her in a crevice in the back of the salon. Gives her the smallest amount of food he can afford to lose, who knows when the last time she had eaten was. Anthony knows better than to let this secret out, but he’s held secrets for the Hooks for years now. He knows better than to spill just one.
So yes, just about everyone on the Isle knows this. They know better than to refuse to help. People remember stuff like that. So when it’s you running, there just might not be a place to hide.
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12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them
18. it's absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on...
22. your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores
12. I'm gonna go with Jordan, it's not that people dislike her, she's just. Not there.
And she's got drama potential! She's got a popular media channel! Want to create public drama? Jordan is right there! Ready to host you in her channel for more views! Win-win situation!
Unrelated but she's not used to people lying, Auradon and all that. Core four didn't help much (Mal: fey, Carlos: aggressively neurodivergent and equally aggressively doesn't care, Evie: look girl spent ten years in banishment she's still learning how humans work and Jay just has better things to do)
So it'd be very fun to get either the Faciliers sisters or Ginny Gothel on Jordan's show, they lie for fun and she doesn't catch on until like five minutes to the end.
18. THE ANGST OF THE HOOK SIBLINGS BEING SEPARATED!
First CJ vanished into Auradon without saying a word - not that she could, she was basically kidnapped, and then Harry ran after Uma!
Also they should have met in D3 in Auradon. As should Facilier sisters.
The Queen of Mean would have been over in half an hour.
22. The fairy lights on Lost Revenge. It's such a tiny thing but it makes me so happy!
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