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teasodium · 5 months
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"If you want him, hUMPH, come and claim him!"
here's the rest if u wanna peep: Sam and Frodo, Aragorn, Arwen, Merry and Pippin, Boromir
like with the Kermit, I had to redo Miss Piggie and I am so happy seeing my improvement since then
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weezlbot · 2 years
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What your favorite Doriathan says about you
note: I left out Galadriel because I feel like I’ve done her before, Beren because he never seemed to have that strong of a connection to the place, and Legolas because I highly doubt he ever knew Doriath. 
Thingol: You’ve never listened to advice in your life and you don’t plan to start. You’re good at starting shit, even if you don’t mean to. 
Melian: You have mommy issues. Or a mommy kink. Or something like that. 
Luthien: You unironically read romance novels and enjoy them. 
Dior: Admit it. You saw the “fairest of all peoples” label and went wild with it. 
Nimloth: Loyalty to a spouse through pain and trauma is the kindest thing someone can do, sayest you.
Elmo: You get mad when people mistake him for the Muppet. You might also be the youngest sibling yourself. 
Celeborn: You’re probably pissed that most people just think of him as Galadriel’s weird, racist husband. He’s much more than just a dude who hates dwarves, guys!
Daeron: You’ve never quite forgiven her. You might also like reading rival band AUs. 
Beleg: Loyalty makes you wild inside. You’d kill for your loved ones. Your favorite LOTR character is probably Sam Gamgee. You have trouble knowing when to let go of people, and might give advice even when it’s unlooked for. 
Mablung: You prefer wisdom over loyalty. You’re good at knowing when to let go. You value good advice and wisdom. 
Nellas: Your favorite scene in the LOTR movies was the one where Aragorn saw Eowyn sleeping and gently tucked her in. Men being gentle makes you all wooby inside. 
Oropher: Are you sure your favorite isn’t Thranduil? You might be kind of a hippie. 
Thranduil: You were kind of broken up when Lee Pace announced he had secretly been married to another man this whole time. Unless you’re gay. Then you’re elated. 
Saeros: You probably believe that humans don’t belong in fantasy. You use the word “problematic” constantly. You might be a little vain.
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Hey, so since Halloween is quickly approaching I had some werewolf questions! 1) What is Mickey and Reuben's favorite couple's costume? 2) If Red Sky had to do a pack costume, what do you think they would do? (Is it bad that my mind immediately went to Star Trek, Star Wars, or The Addams Family?)
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HALLOWEEN BABEY !!! while i'm not doing anything for the holiday, sadly, it's fun to think about the werewolf au dressing up and having fun lol thank you M for sending this in.
Mickey and Reuben's favorite couple's costume is Luke Skywalker and Din Djarin (lemme tell you what....I ship it and so does Mickey. Hardcore.) Reuben goes as Luke and Mickey as Din.....they carry around a little Grogu plushie....but once they have their own little one they dress them up as well.
Mickey is just consistently a huge pop culture nerd
OKAY BUT GROUP COSTUMES WITH RED SKY
I absolutely adore the idea of Mickey making all of them dress up in Star Trek uniforms (Jake....does not mind the skirt on Ronnie the absolute horndog) They dress the kids up as little aliens lol
and Star Wars???? Reuben and Mickey are still Luke and Din obvs. But Jake and Ronnie as Han and Leia?? Javy wants to be Vader but ends up being Chewie (he gets into it, figures out how to use the wolf growl to make The Noise). Frank gets to be Vader, that just fits him perfectly. The kids can be droids....that makes me laugh lol
THE ADDAMS FAMILY!!!!!!! Frick.......I am in love with that concept. Though I 100% think Ronnie would want to go as Cousin Itt ngl lol so Jake is probably Lurch or something.....does that leave Reuben and Mickey as Morticia and Gomez?? probably lol
But MY first thought when I thought of group costumes was The Muppets....for some reason lol Jake as Kermit, Ronnie as Miss Piggy, Javy as Fozzy Bear, Reuben as Gonzo, Mickey as Rizzo, and maybe Frank as Sam the Eagle. That entire concept lives in my heard rent free now lol and the kids get dressed up as like Animal, Bunsen, Beaker, and the baby is Camilla the Chicken lollllll
God I just love them so much. Rockin up to the Halloween Fest in the best costumes there just cause Mickey and Reuben are hardcore dedicated (and are also determined to win the prize each year now that things are semi normal)
Other Group costume options just cause I can't stop thinking them up: Cast of Peter Pan, Toy Story would be cute, LoTR, Avengers, just a bunch of lumberjacks and the kids are little werewolves lollllll
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absynthe--minded · 2 years
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In your opinion, what qualifies as a "good" book-to-film adaptation? Does it need to follow every detail and beat in the book to the letter, or is it more important to capture the heart of the characters and the greater themes of the story at the cost of changes to the source material?
(I'm largely referring to LOTR here, but you could apply this to any other example you see fit)
so the thing about LotR specifically, and about the Legendarium as a whole, that makes it different from other properties, is how intricate it is. this is a multi-millennial epic spanning tens of thousands of years, and everything that happens in it happens at specific times for specific reasons. @monstrousgourmandizingcats pointed out to me that the Rings of Power were forged at a very specific time in Númenorean history as well as elvish history - this was before Númenor was the colonizing superpower that it was at the end of the Second Age, so doing something like smacking Isildur into the middle of this drama makes no sense whatsoever. the amount of depth that's present in the worldbuilding is intense compared to basically any other fandom I've been in, and the level of consistency is remarkably high, even in terms of the drafts (there is a definitive canon imo, and adhering to that is difficult but worth doing)
my frustrations with Amazon's show are mostly stemming from the fact that the things it's doing - condensing the timeline, mashing all the characters together, mixing heraldry and familial sigils, deciding that for some reason the Harfoots are now proto-Hobbits rather than a Hobbit ethnic group - are fucking with that established world. Instead of taking the story as it was already given, and filling in the gaps and dramatizing what was already written, this is being treated like "the novel Tolkien never wrote", but that's the problem. he did write it, everything that's being covered in this series that they didn't invent was already written down, and the things that were left out were tiny details, not massive gaps.
I don't think this is a good adaptation because I don't think that it's going to make for a very intelligible story, to pick and choose and mix and match. I don't think whatever's onscreen will be Tolkien, it will be Amazon's very expensive badly-written AU fanfic The Rings of Power. There might be a couple of fan-favorite moments but I highly doubt they'll actually mean anything, I can tell exactly how much respect they have for the tiny details from just the Vanity Fair article. tbh at this point I even have problems with the Jackson adaptation, but that's for another ask, if people want to know what they are.
but that's not really the question you asked, sorry; I'll do my best to answer that now. 'what makes a good adaptation' varies from source material to source material, and I think it's a ridiculously difficult job that many people fail at, because there's not a one-size-fits-all approach.
despite that, I can try and come to a conclusion about what I like based on the adaptations that I think succeed at what they're doing, and I'm gonna pick four of my favorites - The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (2005), The Muppet Christmas Carol (1992), The Phantom of the Opera (1989), and Stardust (2005).
(more below the cut, tagged 'longpost')
all of these are vastly different from one another, take unique approaches to the source material, and have wildly varying relationships with the concept of book-accuracy.
LWW includes absolutely everything from the book (easy, as it's a very short children's book) and even adds in a full rendition of the big battle at the end that is skipped over in text as well as some additional scenes to provide character development or heightened tension. the place where I think it's goofiest and fails the most is the White Witch Sled Chase that culminates in the four Pevensies washing themselves downstream to escape the wolves, but that's a short action scene that nonetheless provides Peter the chance to showcase his capabilities as a leader and keeps the stakes and tension high. In this case, a good adaptation follows the plot accurately, includes relevant character details, preserves the order of events, and builds on existing dynamics in the cast to make the story compelling for those familiar with it, extrapolating motivation and conflict from stated events. It's a lot like gapfiller fanfic in that way, it's sticking to the canon but enhancing it when something feels lacking.
PotO89 is barely an adaptation of the original Leroux novel - Christine Daaé is now Christine Day, Raoul is now Richard, the Persian is a Scotland Yard investigator, and Erik is now cursed by the Devil in a 100% literal Faustian bargain and his 'mask' is crafted from the skin of his victims. There's far more blood and gore, a campy vibe that lets Robert Englund ham it up, and a Final Girl confrontation with the killer in the modern day that involves Christine destroying Erik's music. Why, then, would I call this a good adaptation? Because it preserves the gothic horror of the original novel, it maintains the strong and fiercely independent characterization of its heroine who in the book calls herself the mistress of her own actions, and it leans hard into the romantic tension between the two leads. It preserves the feeling and the emotional themes of the original novel (except Erik's redemption, but that's because this is a slasher movie) while also never forgetting that it's a horror film, and because it never forgets it's a horror film the tension between Christine and Erik exists more or less as it did in the original text. I certainly haven't found a more accurate take on that relationship. The core issue here is that Leroux's original novel isn't particularly cinematic - it rambles, it gets bogged down in the middle, there are side characters who get forgotten halfway through the book. In this case, trying to accurately adapt the story would fail, because it doesn't work as a cinematic experience, so the best approach is preserving the vibes instead of trying to remember every single detail.
The Muppet Christmas Carol is a return to the example set by LWW - a great deal of the dialogue is taken right from the Dickens book, and while it cuts out certain scenes that emphasize the needs of the poor it doesn't ever shy away from the fact that Scrooge is fucking over people who need help and compassion, it makes up for that in other places. Also, the songs help explore the feelings of the characters and establish moods quickly and effectively. Unlike LWW, it makes several removals from the source material, and unlike PotO89 it's trying to adapt the book it's based on rather than preserve emotional experiences, but it threads the needle very deftly by never losing sight of what the important parts of the story are, and spending time with them. On top of that, the actors (both human and Muppet) throw themselves into the roles, really selling them and setting the emotional scene immediately, which means that even though it moves at a brisk pace the story doesn't feel rushed or lacking. The lesson here is 'if you can't adapt the story in full, find the parts that work best, and make those really shine'.
Stardust is based on a work by @neil-gaiman (who is almost certainly not going to reblog this but one can hope, you know?) and it's somewhere between Carol and PotO89 in terms of accuracy. It's telling a story that's technically the same as the book - a boy named Tristan (or Tristran) crosses over a wall into Faerie to retrieve a fallen star for the girl he's got a crush on, and the star turns out to be a woman, and then they fall in love - but the major difference is tone. The original Stardust is a somewhat absurdist fairy story with an intricate plot and complicated structure that relies heavily upon fairy tale logic and reader awareness of common tropes, and the film is a romantic comedy fantasy story more in the vein of The Princess Bride. The reason I like movie!Stardust so much, despite the adaptation changing many things (including the climax of the story) is because the process of moving from print to screen involves an awareness of the change in medium. A book, or a graphic novel, or both in this case, can rely on wordplay and whimsy and dense nonsensical playing around with language and prophecy, and a film that's not an arthouse experimental piece can't really do that, it has to have a satisfying narrative for the audience to watch. So movie!Stardust is aware of this, and leans hard into that preservation-of-vibes thing I mentioned while also drawing heavily from TPB, the archetypal and iconic self-aware romcom fantasy. Just as the original work was a meta examination of folklore and written stories, the adaptation is a meta examination of filmed stories. The lesson, then, is 'sometimes change is good, if the changes are made for a reason'.
If I'm talking about LotR or another Tolkien adaptation, I want an approach closer to LWW05. I want the gapfiller fanfic, I want the text to be treated as an authority to be contradicted only at great need. And Amazon's, uh. Not doing that.
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scarletjedi · 3 years
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Fic Writer Interview
I was tagged by @determamfidd, hello darlin’!
How many works do you have on AO3? 61
What's your total AO3 word count? 1,027,599
How many fandoms have you written for and what are they? 
My top 3 are Glee (when I started on AO3, but not when I started publishing fanfic), Tolkien (Main fandom for many years), and Star Wars (longest fandom) - but, I have others including fandoms in which I barely remember writing anything - mostly because they were crossovers, lol. 
What are your top 5 fics by kudos?
Old Man Luke
Comes Around Again
Ex Delicto, De Novo Ad Infinitum
An (un)Fortunate Haunting
Finding Comfort. 
Do you respond to comments, why or why not?
Not usually, though I have on occasion. I used to be more prolific with it, but then Comes Around Again blew up and I couldn’t keep up. I always read them, however, and they make me smile. 
What's the fic you've written with the angstiest ending?
Chapter 6/Day 6 of Changes. Spoilers, but it’s Legolas prepping Gimli for burial - but day 7 is reincarnation AU! They get their happy ever after, in every life. I don’t DO angst if there’s no comfort. 
Do you write crossovers? If so what is the craziest one you've written?
LOTR/Starsky and Hutch. Or possibly LOTR/Star Wars (which was inspired by another author, whom I’m not sure wants to be associated with it). I’ve also written Teen Wolf/Supernatural, but I don’t think that’s as crazy. 
Have you ever received hate on a fic?
I think most authors who hit a certain level of readership do, unfortunately. I’ve never been personally attacked, thankfully (save for one comment on a tumblr fic prompt idea that I had that accused me of stealing ideas, but I have no idea what they were talking about), but I get the “oh, this wasn’t to my tastes” or “ew, you chose this?/made this character choice?” kinda thing - mostly on Old Man Luke. There have been some *Debates* in the comment section about my interpretation of the canon - often making reference to parts of legends that I have no exposure to, like the video games.  Weirdly, I’ve gotten a few that were mad that I used Old Luke from the sequels, even though it’s clearly a different take on what Old Luke could have been. *shrug*
Do you write smut? If so what kind?
yuuuup. Published in a book, even. That was M/F. In fandom, it’s mostly slash, occasionally het/MMF. I’ve written lesbians, but I’m not sure they’re anywhere readable these days, it was a while ago. 
Have you ever had a fic stolen?
Not that I’m aware of. 
Have you ever had a fic translated?
Yep! I Know It When I See It is in Russian, and others that aren’t formally connected. And podfics, too! 
Have you ever co-written a fic before?
Yes, some Trek fics with an author who has since left fandom as a whole. 
What's your all time favorite ship?
I don’t have one that supersedes all others, but I do have one that will dominate each fandom. So, Gigolas is my favorite for LOTR. Quiobi for Star Wars, Stucky for Marvel, Mingcheng for the Untamed (my most dominant rarepair). But honestly, in most cases, if it’s well written I’ll read it. I’m not down for incest ships, tho. 
What's a WIP that you want to finish but don't think you ever will?
I’m having a hard time thinking of what comes next for Two Weeks - that fic changes so much from the original idea. It was supposed to be a beach episode! 
What are your writing strengths?
Um. I’m better at identifying weaknesses, but I’ve had people say that my writing is “professional” which - I would hope, considering my degree, haha. I’ve been told that I’m good at description and dialogue. 
What are your writing weaknesses?
plot, setting, punctuation
What are your thoughts on writing dialogue in other languages in a fic?
I tend to leave it in English if the pov character is supposed to understand it, as it helps facilitate the “you know what this character knows” thing. If they don’t understand, I don’t tend to write out the dialogue. That’s my preference: I certainly enjoy fic with dialogue in another language, especially Russian or Latin, as those are the two I studied. 
What was the first fandom you wrote for?
....Muppet Babies, the one from the 80s. I was in, like, kindergarten and just learning to write. It was in my journal. But, when I knew what I was doing was fanfic? Due South. 
What's your favorite fic you've written?
Drowned in Moonlight, which was my tribute to Carrie Fisher when she passed, and Legacy and Finding Comfort, both of which were written in one sitting.  However, I am a little in awe of what Comes Around Again has become, seemingly when I wasn’t looking. And Ex Delicto was fun, though if I wrote it today, I’d make it more clearly segmented. 
I tag @piyo13 and @punsbulletsandpointythings and anyone who wants to do it!
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storyweaverofgondor · 3 years
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So, follow-up question... do you have any idea of what fandoms you post THE MOST about? (Apart from Cats, which is kind of obvious)
XD No idea!
Probably LOTR because of my au I’m writing.
But honestly it’s just kinda random, like i could be in a Star Wars Mood and be posting a lot of Han Solo or Anakin GIFS. Then an hour later I’m in a Muppet mood and there’s like ten Gonzo posts with a Munkustrap post shoved in the middle.
You can be guaranteed some Cats content but you better also be comfortable with a Random Mrs. Fizzle showing up between Jack Sparrow and a Tardis.
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teasodium · 2 months
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"I would have followed you my brother, my captain, my king... waka waka."
here's the rest if u wanna peep: Sam and Frodo, Aragorn, Arwen, Merry and Pippin, Boromir
this took a long while cause needed the right introduction to Boromir Fozzie. ended up doing a whole other pair of frames from the same scene that didn't feel as right but i popped it down under the cut
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teasodium · 9 months
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been a while but added installment to the lotr muppet au I've got going on with Bert and Ernie being Sam and Frodo!!
here's the rest if u wanna peep: Sam and Frodo, Aragorn, Arwen, Merry and Pippin, Boromir
listen... LISTEN!!!
i can see Bert getting angry at Gollum n being generally more grumpy than Ernie i knOw he's still too merry to be Frodo but think of them in the Shire at the start!!
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teasodium · 2 years
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"If you want him, hUMPH, come and claim him!"
Figured I should open up with this tumblr with my blessed/cursed Lord of the Rings Muppet AU I posted on twitter a while back.
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teasodium · 1 year
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so...
much to think about hypothetical Muppets LOTR adaptation...
GIANT Kermit vs Merry being taller than Aragorn
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teasodium · 5 months
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"What his name is, I've never heard: but he's known round here as Strider."
here's the rest if u wanna peep: Sam and Frodo, Aragorn, Arwen, Merry and Pippin, Boromir
a redraw of my ol Kermit Aragorn as I mess around with making more of these...
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