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skygirlstars · 9 days
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❤️🧡💛🏳️‍🌈 for unpopular asks game!
yayy thank you for the ask!! this was so fun. it's yappin' time
❤️: Which character do you think is the most egregiously mischaracterized by the fandom?
this is a tough one because there's so many lol. Barriss (not a villain), Han (not a player), literally SO many of the Jedi, the list goes on. but I think Luke is one of the most interesting cases because I feel he's mischaracterized in different ways by different sides of the fandom. there's the dudebros who think he's just badass, which he is, but nothing else. his most important character trait is quite literally his compassion because it drives the plot of the whole OT. he's a kind and empathetic person, not some embodiment of toxic masculinity bullshit. on the other hand, there's the poor little meow meowfication and infantilization of him from another side of the fandom. yes he's a ray of sunshine but that doesn't mean he can't be tough too!!! he's nice but he also has zero tolerance for bullshit, is headstrong and stubborn, and the furthest thing from shy. many people (myself included) headcanon him as gay or bi and that characterization of him also enforces really harmful stereotypes and narratives about queer men. so in summary, a lot of the fandom mischaracterizes him through a lens of either toxic masculinity or harmful stereotypes. not fun. that got way longer than it was supposed to be, whoops 🙃
🧡: What is a popular (serious) theory you disagree with?
in-universe: that Padmé was somehow manipulated into loving Anakin, whether by Anakin subconsciously using the Force, or by Palpatine, or whatever. nope, my girl Padmé just has horrendous taste in men (case in point: my least favorite SW character, Clovis 🤢). she saw the red flags and decided red was her favorite color. stay delusional queen. out-of-universe: DISNEY LUCASFILM IS NOT GOING TO RETCON THE SEQUELS FFS. that is the dumbest shit I've ever heard sorry not sorry. Disney admitting they made something not good??? not possible. I can't believe people still honestly believe this. the sequels are not my faves either but with the amount of money made off them anyway, a retcon is not happening
💛: What is a popular ship you just can't get behind, and why?
do we consider Reylo popular??? it's very divisive so idk if it counts. but I hate it lol, it's the yucky toxic BookTok type of enemies to lovers. bro deadass tortured her. me personally, I wouldn't let that slide. they also feel like Force cousins or something in a weird roundabout way...? we've already had one incestuous kiss in SW, don't need another. also Rey is lesbian imo. if we're not counting Reylo as popular, I quite dislike Sabezra just because I see them very much as siblings. honestly, any ship where I see the characters as siblings feels icky to me -- Anisoka, Rexsoka, Obikin, etc (although siblings vibes is not my only complaint with those examples, unlike Sabezra).
🏳️‍🌈: Which character who is commonly headcanoned as queer doesn't seem queer to you?
quite honestly I think this is the hardest one for me because I headcanon so many characters as queer HAHA. my personal philosophy for fictional characters is bi until proven otherwise lol. maybe Ben Solo/Kylo? idk how much he's HCed as queer but I think he and Hux are shipped fairly often and I just don't see it lol. that's a straight man, I'm afraid. but he's really the only one I can think of off the top of my head, though I'm sure there are more
here's the original ask game if anyone else wants to have a go or wants me to answer any others (please send me asks I love asks I love yapping)
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devondeal · 8 months
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Character Asks #’s 1,9,10,23,32, 44
Leia 🤍
Why hello there wife @jedimasterbailey 🥰💙💚 and thank you for the ask about my OG fave!
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1. Canon / Outright Reject
I'd just have to reject the sequels for this one. While I'm not against the portrayal of Leia in the sequels since she's still pretty much in character, I hate hate hate how the narrative treats her.
First of all, she doesn't deserve any of the crap she dealt with in that era after fighting so very hard for freedom and losing so much. It just hurts that she has to watch it all crumble around her being the only one with the sense to know it. And the fact that it's her child that causes a lot of it.... ooooo that pisses me off
Second, I HATE when female characters become reduced to mother figures. Before anyone comes at me for that, it's because when that happens, I can't help but notice that suddenly nobody sees a woman as a person, but instead, just "mother." Leia is a character in her own right but now she's "Ben's mother." And with too many Skywalker men already, I'm tired of Skywalker women getting the short end of the stick.
9. Scene that made me fall in love with the character
Look no further than the gif above 😊. Her very first scene immediately made an impression on me when I was a kid and first saw Star Wars. Knowing that this WOMAN had something so very important to do and held such a high position. She was a PRINCESS and growing up, princesses were viewed as weak little things just meant to marry. But this princess was a leader in her own right. And the way she spoke to Darth Vader all guts when his own men quiver in fear at him.... just chef's kiss.
10. Best moment on screen
Hmm so many good ones... toss up between sassing Vader and her handling and choking of Jabba. This woman just has more balls than anyone ever will. Just anytime Leia stands up to someone that usually most fear. Luke went with diplomacy in regard to Jabba, Leia bargained with a detonator in her hand. You can't get more badass than that.
23. If they were a scented candle, what would they smell like?
I feel like people will disagree but I think Leia would be an earthier kind of candle. Something that would emulate a forest like basalm and cedarwood, fresh fallen leaves in Fall, etc.
She's just so grounded as a person and also Alderaan being a more mountainous and forest-y place, it just feels right.
32. Something guaranteed to make her smile
Luke and Han bickering 🤣. But seriously, I think she's loves her droids, animals, and other fuzzy lil friends. She's just such so sweet and gentle with Lola and Wicket. Well... maybe not C3PO but who is? 😂 I just adored how she burned her dickhead cousin when he was rude to the droid and how sweetly she showed Wicket she's not a threat.
I also think anytime Han shows his softer side because she knows how he's usually so guarded and it give her feels that he is comfortable with her.
44. Their happiest memory
I believe it's a combo of when she's reunited with Bail and Breha again in the end of Kenobi and when the Rebellion wins in ROTJ.
Hard to explain why but that's the feeling I get. I just know that Leia must have been thinking about her TRUE parents when the Empire fell. Bittersweet but happy nonetheless.
And in a personal headcanon, I like to think that when she was gifted with Lola, that def is a happy place in Leia's mind. Maybe it was a Life Day gift.
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short-wooloo · 7 months
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I didn't think of this when I made my post about what I want from Rey's Jedi Order movie, but Barriss should absolutely be in it, have her be and elderly Jedi Healer (Barriss is anywhere between 15-17 years old at the start of the clone wars in 22 bby, so by the time of when this new movie is set-50 aby-she should be in her late 80s-early 90s), shoe that she found her way out of the darkness, that what happened to her was a misstep (in and out of universe) in her path, that she regained her faith and light, that she became what she was always meant to be before she was taken the wrong way
And more importantly, showing her as having returned to the light and alive 50 years after ANH means she'll be "locked down", so to speak, no writers will be able to do more terrible things to her (fuck you filoni), and better yet they'll be obligated to have her return to the light if they want to use her
@devondeal @jedimasterbailey
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jedimasterbailey · 13 days
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Chapter 6 of “Luminara and Barriss” is now up! 💚💙 The much needed Post Brain Invaders scene we were ROBBED of. Hope you enjoy!
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stellanslashgeode · 1 month
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Offee Nation, I need your opinions. If Barriss was raised by her family, where would she be in the birth order to suit her personality?
Summoning @jedimasterbailey @archduke42 @devondeal @thecleverqueer @daughter-of-sapph0 @bluedeedeedoop @kaaragen and anyone else who has strong feelings about this.
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archduke42 · 28 days
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OK, I've had time to really reflect with this trailer
I still have some mixed feelings. Part of me hoped they would not bring Barriss back because maybe it was time to move on. After 11 years, I felt like I was just being suckered by red herrings. It's a little exhausting when opportunities happen and everyone speculates but it becomes a false alarm. Plus I used to be rather arrogant over the thought of Barriss being an Inquisitor. Used to irritate me a lot that fans even wanted that to happen. "How can anyone want this?" I used to ask myself. But I'm old fashioned, from a time when good guys were good, bad guys were bad, and Hero(ine) blows up the super weapon. All this character ambiguity people embraced for their Star Wars was a bit alien to me. It was enough that she was supposed to die in Order 66, but this was almost too much. The backlash against "The Wrong Jedi" was a tidal wave at the time, and lots of fans (myself included) cried hard at Filoni and Lucas' casual retcon.
But then, I'd been writing hero journey stories for Barriss since 2005 or 2006 and the whole villain plot twist was infuriating. And there was so much hate for Barriss on the internet at the time. I cursed Filoni's name with an old man's fiery blackened heart. My Muse had become the most hated character in Star Wars, and I had become a hot mess for several years after so much heavy emotional investment. I wanted to channel all my energy into Barriss stories (and eventually Barrissoka stories, since they were such a perfect couple) I also commissioned some shipping/wedding/marriage art to maybe push back against people's notions of a revenge fight between Ahsoka and Barriss. I have been blessed with discovering a huge Barriss Offee/Barrissoka fan community out here, and I think we have all built so positive energy in our love for these characters. Being a writer and reading the works of so many others has helped me grow with the community and learn so much. I am grateful to the art of people like @grissaecrim, and stories by people like @jedimasterbailey and @stellanslashgeode (and so many others) I can be excited that Barriss is officially coming back! The wait is over, and my anxiety returns. but I also have had a long period of time in 11 years to accept these new dynamics for Barriss. I am ready to accept whatever Destiny is in store for Barriss, though I suspect Filoni will be giving her a journey of sorts and not just leading these episodes towards a villain death for her. I suspect this journey may even go to live streaming with Ahsoka involved but time will tell. I still loath the concept of challenging expectations, but I realize that Star Wars characters have to grow out of two dimensional designs. Heroes don't need to be sparkling perfect and Villains can have a moral compass of sorts. I just wish Lucasfilm would stick to a consistent history with all this. I'm certain Filoni will have more retcons to drop on us. It's his style. But in fairness, the trailer was exciting, the animation looked really good. And I enjoyed seeing other minor characters involved, like 4th Sister, Grand Inquisitor, etc. I look forward to the exciting battles with Elsbeth and Grievous, etc. Most importantly with this trailer comes the enthusiasm to see Barriss return. Much of the hate is gone, and the Star Wars community in places like Youtube, Tumblr, etc is blowing up with excitement for this. The majority fans are ready for her adventure to continue with open minds. I think that gives me more joy than anything, that fans actually want to see her again, and want her to win at this in the best way possible even though she is starting from a dark place. I'm ready to see how this goes. This could be one of the best Star Wars experiences of 2024.
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thechaoticfanartist · 2 years
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This is Obi-Wan Kenobi: A phenomenal pilot who doesn't like to fly. A devastating warrior who'd rather not fight. A negotiator without peer who frankly prefers to sit alone in a quiet cave and meditate.
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bluedeedeedoop · 29 days
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Get to know: BlueDeeDeeDoop
Yipppeeeee!! i always love being tagged in these so thank you @kalevalakryze!!! Most recent song you listened to: uhhhhh.... Prom Queen by Beach Bunny. LOOK I DONT WANT ANYONE COMING AFTER ME OK.
Favorite color: Blue (total shocker fr)
Currently Watching: DHMS (dont hug me im scared) but i honestly have been struggling trying to not bring it back to star wars
Sweet/Savory/Spicy: prob savory tbh. idrk-
Relationship: Single/whoring out (help)
Current Obsession: Barriss, Barrissoka, Star wars. teehee
Last thing you googled: Joann fabrics hours.
People you'd like to know more about: @stellanslashgeode @jedimasterbailey @devondeal @thatblueknight @skygirlstars
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rancidjuno · 8 months
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I saw @jedimasterbailey hc that Luminara's Master was Katri from Tales of the Jedi and was going to draw them together bc any excuse to draw fun mirialan outfits but after looking at the timelines it seems like Katri died at the LATEST when Lumi is like 13/14 :(
so orphaned Luminara is my new hc, and it's also why she's so supposedly detached in Weapons Factory (even though she's clearly not) :D maybe i will draw some angst for that later
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lesbiansandpuns · 7 hours
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this is promising?? I hope?? @jedimasterbailey @stellanslashgeode @bluedeedeedoop etc etc
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alexeithegoat · 4 months
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14!!
HI CY !!! <3 Thanks for sending! 💜💜
14. Favorite book you read this year?
I am going to be completely honest with you, 2023 was not a year for books for me I am afraid. I reread A New Dawn by John Jackson Miller for the nth time however! And a little bit of the Ascendancy books by Timothy Zahn!
As for fanfics however, there are few that stick out to me that I will link now. Fair warning, all but the first one are Sonic (because that Star War divorce is in full swing baby):
Luminara and Barriss by JediMasterBailey
absolutely stunning writing and grasp of characters! I am always in love with Bailey's writing and she never ceases to immerse a reader in deep. This one is incredible and I always find myself going back to it when I need a little cheering up! If you love the wonderful Luminous Lineage, this one is for you! the worldbuilding is insanely good and so is the dialogue (internal and external). Highly recc! (centred on Luminara Unduli and Barriss Offee!!!)
What Was I Made For? by bitter_sweet_coffee
my most recent read and a wonderful one at that! they capture Wave and Espio down to a key and it's so heartfelt that you can really feel the love put into it! shorter than the last one but that doesn't take away from how much I love it. <3 (centred on Wave the Swallow and Espio the Chameleon!)
Learning & Teaching by SAJ_Man07
oh my GOD okay I am not normal about this at all. I did read it completely sleep deprived and emotional but I love this so much. the writing and characterisation is remarkable and they have a good love for the Babylon Rogues!!! This fic is constantly on my mind and I love it sm. I think it's one of those fics that change the way you think fundamentally. absolutely incredible would read again for the nth time <3 (centred on the babylon rogues ((namely storm and wave))
and lastly, Swept Away in Gentle Waters by melting_shards
this is so cute!!! I love it sm and I keep thinking back to it! The way they word and describe things is AAAGH and I am in love! It's expertly written and very light to read, would 100% recommend this! (centred on Kitsunami the Fennec and Miles 'Tails' Prower <3)
thank you sm for the ask and I hope you don't mind my slight derailment from the OG question! I wish I had more to say on that. Maybe 2024 will be my year for books, who knows 🤷‍♂️
end of year ask game!!!
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skygirlstars · 9 months
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currently thinking about Barriss as a foil for Ahsoka in TCW is such a good example of the nature vs. nurture argument. they had basically the exact same upbringing until they were 14 or so, whenever each of them became a Padawan.
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and then in TCW we see Ahsoka with this whole support system or people who love and care about her!! Anakin and Rex and Padmé and Plo and Obi-Wan and more!! and they tell her and/or show her that they care about her!!
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and then Barriss has no one, aside from her friendship with Ahsoka. Luminara cares about Barriss to an extent, and she’s certainly not malicious, but she acts at best apathetic toward Barriss. (of course Luminara is just following the Jedi Code as she sees it, but still.) it’s most evident in the Geonosis arc when Luminara is basically ready to just leave Barriss for dead, while Anakin never gives up on Ahsoka. but it goes beyond just Luminara — in TCW, we never see Barriss close to anyone else.
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so Barriss is the one who becomes a “villain.” I’m absolutely a Barriss defender, so I don’t want to call her that, but that’s obviously what the writers intended. she turns on the Jedi (understandably) and she turns on Ahsoka. she’s not inherently a bad person, she just didn’t get the love and support she needed, whereas Ahsoka did :(
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devondeal · 8 days
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6, 12, 14, and 21 for the Star Wars Violence Ask Game!
Thank you wifey! 💙💚 I'm gonna enjoy these
6. Opinion on canon and/or fanon use of the secret child trope? Discuss
I don't mind it. The secret child can be a good trope if the context is right for it. I mean Star Wars is centered on secret child trope pretty much. Where I'm not so into it is the Korkie headcanon that he is Obi Wan and Satine's son. It's a bit too crackhead for me and also it's not my ship so I'm biased against it.
12. Name a common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing.
Anything about Rey tbh. I may not be a big sequels person but anytime the fandom tries reduce her to an overpowered female Luke and say she's unoriginal I roll my eyes.
Like they are nothing alike. Luke got to live comfortably taken care of by his aunt and uncle. He never had to scavage scraps just to be able to eat. And before anyone comes for me, I'm NOT ripping on Luke. He had what anyone should have.
What I'm saying is Rey didn't get to have guardians or a comfortable house or regularly even be able eat. She was abandoned and did what she had to to survive. As for the overpowered thing like she's able to fly ships or fight back, like come on. I repeat, she. was. a. scavanger. She got to know ship parts and as for fighting, she's had to fight dickheads like Teedo and probably worse to keep food, homes, etc. After rewatching TFA, i notice she learns from OBSERVATION. She mimics what others do around. This is a survival skill she had her whole life.
Of course Luke is going to take a little more time to learn things. He was never put in that situation where it was do or die (as any child shouldn't). Rey was and however fast she was at learning a skill is a result of basic survival instincts.
She and Luke ENTIRELY different characters and to say she's a female version of him cuz she's from a desert????? Reductive and a big lack in media literacy tbh.
14. What's the most egregious example of fridging in canon?
God which one? 😅 Fridging is probably one of Star Wars biggest crimes. Leia is the first that comes to mind because she died to redeem her piece of shit son that she did not deserve.
But then again, Anakin's turn to the dark side is also due to fridging with his mother and his wife. Especially with Padme since there's an old version where she actually gets to live a little bit longer with the Rebellion and tried to kill Anakin.
I may not be a big Satine person, but that's fridging too to give Obi Wan angst and more Maul animosity.
I'm still going to say Leia in the sequels though as the most egregious. Because it was so out of nowhere (yes I'm aware that Carrie's death was probably the reason but I don't care. There are better ways to kill off/write out a character than fridging). Her death served no purpose other than Kyle Ron no accountability. Like what in "Jesus died for our sins" is this bullshit? Why must Star Wars' most iconic woman have to go out for a man that did nothing but hurt and betray her? It's insulting tbh.
Edit: Luminara's death was fucking awful too. Like ain't no reason to have it be so horrific. Sigh... can Star Wars like not hate women for once.
21. Best canon example of a healthy relationship in Star Wars
Romantically that is a tough one. Honestly I'm coming up short with this one. Can't say Han and Leia cuz we only see their rocky start and end and nothing in between.
Maybe Kanan and Hera but their relationship kinda got ruined for me when suddenly at the end, he wasnt aware if Hera felt the same about him??? I just thought they were basically married and I'm supposed to be believe they haven't even had that conversation by THAT point in time??? Plus the ghost baby thing creeped me the fuck out. Can Star Wars please stop with the out of nowhere pregnancies please?
So yeah canon romances, nothing comes to mind. In fact Star Wars is kind of built on toxic romance.
The crackhead in me wants to say Owen and Beru 🤣
Ooo! Wait I found my answer! Cal and Merrin from the Jedi games! They are perfect 🥺 Idk what the next game will have in store for them but so far, the way they empower and comfort each other. They accept and love each other's differences. And just adorable all around. Sweet ginger boy with spicy witch lady 👌
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short-wooloo · 8 months
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@devondeal @jedimasterbailey
So uh, what you guys think if I put Barriss in my post-Rise of Skywalker Jedi Academy fic as an old Jedi Master? That thing from tcw? No idea what you're talking about, must not have happened, and if it did it was 70 years ago people move on, change, and make up for their mistakes
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jedimasterbailey · 1 month
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At last the “Brain Invaders” chapter of my “Luminara and Barriss” fic is finally up 😅 Enjoy 💙💚
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stellanslashgeode · 2 months
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💕🎨🦋🦈🚦📚💥 for the writer ask game ☺️
Thanks for the ask, @jedimasterbailey ! I’ll see if I can not be long winded because this is a lot!
💕 What is your favorite fic that you’ve written?
I think my best is Sundari Lament. I put a lot of polishing to make that a satisfying story and the narrative took on a life of its own. It made itself better almost despite myself.
But I think my favorite is From Uncanny to Concordance. It’s short but I loved writing it and it came out saying exactly what I wanted to express. I also have a lot of fondness for Jedi: Dropout.
🎨 If someone were to make fanart of your work, what fic or scene would you hope to see?
I am very happy with the art I commissioned for Sundari Lament and fan art I received for Let’s Call It Love. The one moment I would love to get fanart for that I haven’t yet is this one quick scene in Lavender and Chartreuse involving a bathrobe drawstring. I think it’s one of the most sensual things I’ve written.
🦋 Which character is your favorite to write?
Barriss is my muse so she’s up there. I also love writing for Satine Kryze. She’s so inspiring. I also love writing Anakin and Padmé, which is weird because you’d think it would be so hard since Star Wars can’t seem to sell it well. I love writing undervalued characters like Raffa and Trace Martez and Tepoh.
🦈 Which character is the toughest to write?
One I haven’t yet written for: Luthen Rael. I have a scene in my head and a lot of the dialogue. But Andor is so well written I am intimidated. How can I do better that the “I have made my mind a sunless place” speech?
🚦What sort of endings do you prefer to write: ambiguous, bad, happily ever after, etc.?
I kind of like ambiguous endings best. Who knows what happens after The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of Barriss Offee? Even some of my happy endings can expand. I’m sure things remain rocky after Heart of Kyber, for instance.
📚 Is there a fanfic or fanfic writer you recommend?
I know so many good writers! There’s @jedimasterbailey @airlockfailure @kalevalakryze @machinerismsx @greenflower21 @archduke42 @kaaragen and @frogblast-the-ventcore is just starting out. As far as fics Across the Frozen Sea is very sweet and influenced my work a lot, especially Jedi: Dropout. the moments when we smile and those in between is maybe my favorite fic so far. Tum Durare Solum/ How the Earth Began to Harden is very good and I want to read where it goes. And of course @bluedeedeedoop ‘s fabric store Barrisoka AU Me and you and awkward silence...
I quietly have a thing for Foxiyo and Playing in the Perception Pool and Invictus are my favorites in that department. Invictus really inspired my fic Inferno. I know I’m leeaving writers and good works out rn, too! Coming Home to You is so good as is Body and Soul by @morose-magnetrix
💥 What is one canon thing that you wish you could change?
Look, I’m a simple fan. I just want to know what happened to Barriss. If she was executed right after The Wrong Jedi ended I’ll say that sucks and move on but at least I’ll know. I’m glad Dave changed the original ending where she blew herself up. That would have been too far with the character assassination. And would have made even more mess in the Legends canon since she already had an established death in 2013. If there’s not going to be any more Barriss content just tell us and we’ll write it. I just want closure.
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