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trans-xianxian · 4 months

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as much as I love wei wuxian and slander against him is banned from this house I Do sometimes think that people forget he's like. supposed to be a morally complex person who did things that were bad. like the whole point of him and his story is that he was a good man who was pushed to do terrible things, and when we fail to examine those terrible things/completely ignore them, we're sort of doing wei wuxian and the points being made by his arc a disservice

#I think ppl get very defensive #and don't realize that bad actions =/= bad person #which is kind of the whole point of story #or even more so like. how justification works into all of it #like objectively mass murder is generally considered not great #but wei wuxian was practically forced through years of mistreatment and public ostracization #into the bloodbath and nevernight #like thats the whole THING thats the whole STORY #and part of his resurrection is him coming to terms with the fact that he did things he never wanted to!!!!#like aaaaadghfhhh shakes you shakes you shakes you THATS THE WHOLE POINT #like I love him we know this I'm his number 1 fan I think his war crimes are sexy etc etc #but when engaging in genuine thoughtful analysis of his character #it is a disservice to say he did nothing wrong #and loving his character Anyway is also kind of the point #someone can do terrible things and still deserve to be loved #ghost posts #text #wwx

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thevalleyisjolly · 1 year

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Society if instead of tying MCU Spider-Man to the Avengers, they had him connect with the Defenders instead.

#the valley is posting #the biggest disservice they did to holland!spidey imo #and you can tell that the individual movies tried so hard to break him away from the legacy of the a v e n g e r s #except the group movies kept sucking him back in until there was no way to ease up on those relationships without destroying all continuity #but. what if. hear me out. friendly NEIGHBOURHOOD spidey got to network with other new york vigilantes instead.#you can still have spidey questioning his own identity and motives! and it'll mean more because it's actually against comparable heroes!#what makes spidey different from dd? from jessica or cage or danny?#it becomes so much more meaningful for spidey to explore and define himself against people with similar experiences and situations #than trying to measure up against the legacy of big supers whom he has very little in common with and the power imbalance is so huge #anyways i have very little stakes in this but you'll never convince me that tying spidey to the a v e n g e r s was a good narrative choice #i'm not saying you can't be a fan of the relationships spidey formed within the a v e n g e r s #i just think it was a poor decision driven solely by capitalism and corporate greed to introduce spidey in that way at all #yeah; it's happened now; and there's nothing wrong with enjoying spidey's relationships with other heroes #i just wish it hadn't happened in the first place and we got to see spidey movies that were actually about spidey #instead of; y'know; spidey AND the a v e n g e r s

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gay-dorito-dust · 21 days

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How’d they react to you calling them bro or dude whilst in a pre-established relationship…(platonic/romantic)

Dick: he’s insulted.

Gutted.

He will try to give you the silent treatment for such a shameful thing but ultimately fails as he ends up being the one pawing at you for attention.

‘Do you still like me? Or did you just run out of cute nicknames to call me?’ He’d say one night as your both cuddling in bed together. ‘If it’s the later then I can help you find something, just please spare me and don’t call me dude or bro anymore.’

He’d rather you call him Richard-wait, no he hates that even more because to him you’re not meant to use his fully name, only cutesy nicknames that’d make a grown man sick to his stomach. Nothing else would suffice other than Dickie bird, handsome, babe, hunk, honeybun or anything that wasn’t his name.

He’s go mad or would act delusional and say that everything was fine when everyone could tell that it wasn’t. People who know him have personally came to you and begged you to stop calling him dude/bro because he kept talking their ears off about how his beloved partner is torturing him, which ends up torturing them even more upon hearing about his relationship issues.

Dick would even consult Hayley on what he did wrong, only for Hayley to look at him with those big, big eyes of hers. This was not her level of expertise unfortunately. (Head empty, no thoughts. She can’t do her abc’s guys it’s a real tragedy.)

Jason: ‘I just had my tongue down your throat just now and you had to go and ruin the mood by calling me bro. What the fuck.’ - Jason at some point.

It’s a whole mood killer for him to be honest.

He’s calling you things like chipmunk or sweetheart but here you were calling him dude and bro. He knows for a fact that he’s well and truly out of the friend zone because the shit you’ve done together isn’t platonic in any sort of way.

Thinks Roy had set you up to call him dude or bro behind his back. (He hasn’t)

Jason is petty and will get his own back by referring you as ‘just a really good friend’, ‘buddy o’ mine’ or even worse than both of those; ‘chum.’ 💀

When you go low, Jason was more then willing to go to the depths of fucking hell to the point it had become a game to see who’d call out just how stupid this all was, and at the both of you for ever thinking that this was an excellent idea in the first place.

You’ll probs get punished…I’m just going to leave it there and let your minds guess what that ‘punishment’ was exactly.

Damian:

As much as Damian hates it when you call him Dami, he hates it when you call him dude or bro even more, if that’s even possible.

Damian hates it when you call him dude or bro. He’s not your dude or bro, he’s your partner and he expects no less then darling, my heart or my beloved.

So you calling him dude or bro is more than enough reason for him to give you the silent treatment.

‘Until you learn that I am your partner, I won’t want to be anywhere near you if you’re going to keep calling me your bro or dude. It is a disservice to who I actually am to you.’ He says with a huff and beckons Titus to follow, only for the Great Dane to be left confused as to why his human parents were at a disagreement over something silly.

Also Titus, Ace, Jerry, Alfred the cat, Goliath and BatCow are children of divorce because I said so.

So it’s bests that you apologise while you still can because Damian can hold a grudge unlike any other. Even if you didn’t, you’d still crack first before Damian and quickly put an end to calling him dude/bro.

He just thinks being called a dude/bro when in a pre-established relationship is an insult.

He can take a joke but not when it’s aimed at his relationship. He’s well and truly devoted to his relationship -if we’re to completely ignore the whole being Robin thing- that it might as well be an insult towards him too at this point.

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curseanon · 20 days

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The Issue with Eden Polycule

So I wanted to articulate my thoughts on a relationship that ive seen in fandom spaces and lots of fan art or fanfiction. I don’t have any opinions or problems with Adam/Eve/Lucifer/Lilith, but I feel like there are some implications and tropes that we should be more careful about when it comes to Eve/Lucifer/Lilith or even just Eve/Lucifer. Before getting into it though, just a disclaimer: this post is not about polycules in general. It’s not my cup of tea personally, but ship whatever you please! This post is just me rambling about my own thoughts. Feel free to have your own interpretations. ALSO! None of this justifies Adam’s behavior. He is responsible for his decisions, including his cruelty towards people, language, and his decision to essentially wage mass genocide each year. And this post isn’t to say that this relationship drama is the sole reason why he ended up doing exterminations.

1. I don’t really like portrayals that have Lucifer/Lilith (L/L) sleeping with Eve and having her cheat on Adam, especially when it takes place in Eden. I’m afraid Vivzie might have this narrative take place in HH, but doing so does a real disservice to Eve’s (and Lucifer’s if he acted alone) character by having her be willing to cheat, and also does a disservice to Adam by having him be cheated on for reasons that are probably not entirely his fault. Not to mention a lot of media where this happens often has the tone of just “haha let’s cuck Adam twice,” which comes off to me as petty and unfair. Not only is it not a funny joke, but it essentially reinforces and justifies Adam’s misogynistic tendencies later. Especially the ideas that women are promiscuous, always willing to cheat and be unfaithful. The narrative would do nothing to disprove this if BOTH of Adam’s wives did in fact cheat on him.

2. Another thing about Eden. Lilith was Adam’s first wife, literally created for the purpose of being his partner. This is also pre-Apple, meaning that Adam has no concept of right vs wrong. The way he acts, if he truly was controlling and mean and the story book wasn’t exaggerating (which I doubt), is entirely the programming of the angels and the way they tolerate or enable his behavior. Assuming we went with the theory that Adam never ate the apple, it’s the same situation with Eve if she left him and/or cheated with L/L. The way I see it, Lilith’s cheating on Adam is not justified, even if she disagreed with Adam on certain things.

3. I also want to note that cheating on one’s partner is not a justifiable punishment for Adam’s behavior. Whether pre or post apple (now assuming he did eat it), I see it as fighting fire with fire, and all it usually does is create even more hostility and problems than if the person just clearly broke off the relationship first. L/L/E runs the risk of inadvertently encouraging unfaithfulness in relationships and marriages as solutions to a problem, but this is rarely the case. As stated earlier, it only makes Adam justified in acting the way he does. And with that justification, is he really in the wrong for how he treats women? What reason does he have to change his behavior if he is right about them? I could probably accept both wives leaving him if the purpose is to justify Adam’s behavior and not just mock him, to show how morality is not just black and white and the villains sometimes have justifiable reasons for thinking the way they do. But it still seems very shallow on Lilith and Eve’s parts.

4. This part is just my opinion on L/L/E, but I don’t find the idea of Eve getting with the people who caused her to lose Eden very convincing. L/L are the reasons her and Adam were cast out of the garden and made to live for centuries laboring to survive, farming cursed ground and painfully delivering several children. Not to mention the bringing of sin and death into the world, losing Abel at the hands of his brother and Cain being cast away to wander the Earth. All the suffering she faced in life and the suffering of all of her descendants, all of humanity. Her sleeping with Lucifer makes no sense to me unless he seduced her (when she was more naive, maybe even pre-apple) intentionally, either for the purpose of hurting Adam or if he did just love her also, which makes him complicit in ruining someone’s marriage. None of this fits with Lucifer’s character, a malewife who adores his Tall Queen and comes off to me as being very loyal. The idea of open marriage is better, but Adam does not seem like the type of guy who likes to share anything, and his marriage is very clearly between Adam and Eve. That controlling personality indicated by the story book leads me to see him as likely having some jealousy and possessiveness (though not in extreme ways).

5. The only other option is Lucifer sleeping with Eve after her death and if she goes to hell, since we know Adam and Eve lived a thousand years married together on Earth, starting humanity. But I don’t see any reason for this. We need much much more information about Adam and Eve’s relationship and all four of their relationships’ to each other in general first before we can talk more about this. But until then, I don’t see any reason to break up Adam and Eve unless there’s some importance to it in the narrative. For me, I see Adam’s womanizing in heaven as a sign that Eve is probably not in heaven. And thinking that he’ll never see her again because “Hell is forever,” he eventually becomes bitter and jaded over thousands of years and decides that his relationship with Eve must be over then. Possibly the same case with Eve in hell, somehow leading up to sleeping with Lucifer. But considering she’s no where to be found with L/L and Lucifer only references her once, there seems to be zero indication of anything between them.

6. To briefly touch on the idea that once in heaven, Eve eventually left Adam because of his horrible personality and womanizing. This is still possible, but it seems like WAY too big of a personality shift to go from married and raising a family for a thousand years to suddenly being a massive asshole and a philanderer. Something must have happened that magnified all the worst aspects of his personality. There’s no way he is the same today as he was in Eden or on Earth. If he is, that’s just shitty lazy writing on Vivzie’s part and Adam is nothing but a one dimensional villain with no depth at all. Massive waste of a character with huge potential.

Tl;dr This post is already too long so I’ll just summarize everything. Although I agree that Adam is definitely an arrogant and annoying villain, Lilith and Eve cheating on adam is unjustified imo, there is no reason for Eve to cheat on Adam or leave him at all from what we can tell now, and her having any relationship with Lucifer also makes no sense considering what his choices turned her life into. But let me know your thoughts on all this, if there’s some point you want to make or a disagreement on something else!

#hazbin hotel #eve hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel eve #hazbin eve #hazbin hotel adam #hazbin adam #hazbin hotel lucifer #hazbin hotel lilith #hazbin lilith #hazbin lucifer #adam x eve #eden polycule #hazbin headcanons

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thegoodwitchglinda · 7 months

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meaningful memories

Vil Schoenheit x reader

You were one of Vil’s costars back when you were both children, and when you meet again at NRC you remind him of the happier parts of his childhood.

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All the rage recently was about the new transfer student that would be arriving at NRC today. Although it wasn’t obvious, Vil was excited to meet you, with all the gossip going around. Vil could be rather adverse to rumours, considering they usually weren’t the truest - and that prove itself quite quickly as many of the rumours surrounding you and your awaited arrival were contradictory.

However, one thing that did stay consistent was that you were apparently something of a celebrity, and that usually required some modicum of grace. Therefore, Vil wanted to keep a lookout for you, as it made you all the more likely to land yourself in Pomefiore. Which you did, unsurprisingly.

That didn’t mean you arrived without any surprises, however. After your dorm was confirmed, Vil had your introduction fully planned - he was going to meet you as soon as possible and make sure you understood the rules and weren’t going to disrupt the order of his dorm - that would be a disservice to the rest of his classmates.

After all, perfection takes work, and it’s hard to function in chaos.

And yet, that was exactly the state of his brain once he first saw you. He almost didn’t recognise you at first - you’d grown up and looked different now. But you had the unmistakable shine of a perfectly polished diamond, a beauty that mirrored on the inside out.

He forced himself to regain his composure, “Hello, it’s good to see you again.” He couldn’t help but smile as he said it.

You laughed at that, “Yeah, well I did say you wouldn’t be able to get rid of me, huh.” It was nice seeing him again.

That triggered a memory, so vivid, that even though his brain flicked through the image of it in a few moments, he felt like he was reliving the whole thing again.

It was the backstage of a set you two were filming a movie on, the first day of filming had just wrapped up. You could tell something was wrong with Vil, you’d become quite close to him if only by frequent proximity, so you followed him backstage. At first he didn’t notice you, you were being fairly quiet.

He practically slid down the wall and resigned himself to staring off at nothing in the distance. It seemed out of character for him, to say the least. He looked vulnerable, which was especially strange for the always on-guard perfectionist that was your co-star.

It was wrong to just stand there and watch him, without his knowledge, but you couldn’t just leave him like that either - so you did the best your young mind could think of at the time.

You’d rushed to turn the lights off and yelled “boo!” out as loud as you could. Safe to say you scared the lights out of him - and he wasn’t very amused. Thinking back on it, it was definitely silly, but it got his mind off of whatever he was thinking about.

“What on earth are you doing!”

“hi… um, sorry about that, you looked upset and I wanted to cheer you up?”

Honestly, Vil probably would’ve been upset at your actions in most other circumstances, but he found it so ridiculous that it was funny. He found it hard to even accuse you of being unprofessional as he greatly admired your talent whenever you were on set together - so instead he wondered how you could have both. How you could shine and be carefree at the same time.

He’d be mad at it, if it wasn’t what brought him back down to earth.

Clearly you realised something was wrong with him and wanted to help, that was more than what most people realised about him. Almost everyone thought that he was emotionless in his pursuit of perfection - despite being a child, so he appreciated your efforts.

“Why are you sad?”

He was hesitant to get into it, but you’d already seen him with his guard down, so he did. And he’s glad he did. So he told you all about the issues he had with people’s perception of him, his villainous typecast and his ongoing rivalry with Neige that the aforementioned actor was blissfully but frustratingly unaware of. He’d even told you about the group of boys that had tried to attack him just last week over a character he played.

It was awful, no one should have to experience that.

You were quick to envelope him in a startling hug, and he melted into it and the comfort it brought. Perfection came at a price, and you were one of the few people that not only saw him as human, but treated him so. It made him wish that he’d never have to let you go.

As you started to let loose on the hug, he held you just a bit tighter, sending a clear message.

“Hey… you know, I’m not going anywhere! In fact, you’re not even going to be able to get rid of me when you’re finally sick of me!” You were extraordinarily headstrong about it, feeling for the injustice Vil had been served before.

As the memory came to a close, Vil looked up at you with a brighter smile than before.

“Well, I’m glad you kept promise.”

#twisted wonderland #twst #twisted wonderland x reader #vil schoenheit #vil shoenheit x reader #vil #vil x reader #twst x reader #dtw

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chaos-of-the-abyss · 9 months

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guts and griffith obviously have different types of moral compasses and while the view that "guts is better and more moral than griffith" is seriously reductive and flattens both their characters, i do think it's interesting to contrast their morality. like, to me, griffith's moral compass seems more abstract and all-encompassing, while guts' seems more individualistic and limited in scope. i don't think guts would have made the choice that griffith did during the eclipse, but a part of that is because while griffith feels the weight of the lives lost in pursuit of his dream, guts wouldn't - not as much at least. before guts leaves the band of the hawk, it's griffith who asks guts if he thinks he's cruel, and it's guts who dismisses the question as "this is just what you have to do for your dream"; griffith is the one concerned about the morality of cold-blooded murder while guts is the one who shrugs his shoulders about it.

one factor (among the many, many factors) in griffith's decision to sacrifice the band of the hawk was that he felt he owed the people who had died for his dream, enemies included as well as comrades. the former he cut down because they were in the way and the latter fought for him and lost their lives helping him get closer to his goal. he feels obligated to make something out of their deaths, which he believes, somewhat subconsciously, that he is responsible for. at that point in the story he's become helpless, powerless, totally dependent on others, and unable to pursue his dream further unless he chooses to make the sacrifice. if he stops here, then all those people will have died for nothing. his decision during the eclipse is partially driven by guilt. it's "i've come too far and i can't let all the lives of the people i killed go to waste."

and i don't think guts would feel that same weight? guts' morality seems way narrower in scope than griffith's. he doesn't care quite as much about the people who die as a consequence of being in his path; instead his main concern is the handful of people he loves and cares about. and don't get me wrong, when you are one of those people, guts would force his body to the brink and fight until it breaks apart before he lets you get hurt. (that's part of why i love the fact that he's represented by an absolutely unhinged and feral doglike beast.) but outside of that handful of people, or unless he's dealing with a kid, the number of fucks he gives drops pretty drastically. again, he's the one who cheerfully patted griffith on the shoulder after he carried out the murder that griffith ordered him to. he's pretty blasé about taking lives and being responsible for people's deaths as long as these people are unrelated to him, more so than griffith pre-eclipse.

this isn't to say that either of their moral compasses are superior to each other's, they're just different. they put a different amount of weight into things. but again, i do feel like diminishing it to simply "guts wouldn't sacrifice the people he cares about while griffith did and that's why guts is a better person than griffith" is a bit of a disservice to the narrative.

#berserk meta #berserk #griffguts #griffith #griffith berserk #berserk griffith #guts #guts berserk #berserk guts #berserk tag #berserk rambling #kentaro miura #miura kentaro #i ramble

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kcwriter-blog · 3 months

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Another Take on Solas' Conversation About the Dalish and Other Things

I know I’m preaching to the choir, but I’ve been seeing enough negative takes on Solavellan and Solasmancers in general on my dash that I feel the need to vent a little. I realize that most negative takes boil down to “I hate this ship and there is something very wrong with you if you like it” and I mostly ignore them but this time I have a few thoughts to share under the cut.

As far as I can tell, the dislike starts with the conversation between Solas and the Inquisitor about the Dalish. Apparently, this comes off as condescending? I’m pretty sure the people that use that word don’t know what it means. The way Vivienne speaks to the Inquisitor is condescending. Solas is just angry and bitter.

If he were being condescending, the conversation would be more along the lines of “My dear, I understand that having grown up among the Dalish, you are going to be a bit biased, but really you can’t possibly believe that the Dalish know everything there is to know about their history.” Condescension is being simultaneously polite and catty. It’s The Game.

Back to the conversation. Solas tells Lavellan on the way to the Temple of Ashes that his dealings with the Dalish did not go well. He tried to tell them about their history, they didn’t like what he had to say because it contradicted their beliefs, and they tossed him out on his “flat” ears. He also says that the Dalish did not believe he was one of them.

He’s understandably bitter but not entirely for the reasons we think. Yes, part of it is about ego, but mostly it’s about how closed-minded the Dalish are. Solas hates closed mindedness. He values curiosity and he is willing to debate ideas. He went to the Dalish because as the self-proclaimed keepers of elvish lore and the people searching to reclaim their lost history, he thought they would not only listen but be excited to learn more. They weren’t.

When Lavellan asks about his views on elven culture, he lashes out. Not because he thinks she’s stupid but because he expects her to be as closed-minded as the Dalish he has already met.

Lavellan for her part can react in several different ways. People that don’t like the romance assume that the top option where she calls him ha’ren is her agreeing with him. It isn’t.

I used to work in human resources back in the dinosaur age. My job was to listen to employee complaints and keep them from suing the company. I was taught how to make an employee think I was on their side without actually agreeing with them. That’s what I think the top response is. She needs his expertise. She needs him to be on her side. Antagonizing him doesn’t help her so she decides to diffuse the situation.

She addresses him respectfully. Then she says, “If the Dalish have done you a disservice.” She isn’t saying, “Yeah dude they were jerks.” She is saying If (a conditional) which roughly translates to “I wasn’t there. I don’t know what happened, but you seem pretty upset.” She isn’t agreeing just acknowledging his feelings.

She continues with “I would make that right.” She knows he’s upset because they didn’t listen to him. It costs her nothing to say, “I’m willing to listen and keep an open mind.” That’s all she is saying. She doesn’t say she is going to believe him. She is not going to go out among the Dalish and preach the gospel of Solas. She’s just willing to listen.

She then turns it back on him. She asks a question. “What course would you set for them?” Again, she’s not agreeing with him. She’s simply asking him to stop bitching and figure out how the Dalish could do what he is suggesting.

The end result is that Solas apologizes, recognizes that there isn’t a way for the Dalish to do what he wants them to do and settles down. Is he still salty? Sure. He also recognizes he shouldn’t take that out on Lavellan.

Most of Solas’ conversations with Lavellan run along the same lines. He tells her about the pre-Veil world, she says “It sounds like it would be wonderful.” Again, not agreeing that it was, just that the way he describes it sounds wonderful. There are a lot of other examples.

Basically, Lavellan is smart and canny. She can meet Solas as an equal on his own ground. She is willing to admit he knows stuff she doesn’t and to take his advice if it seems sound. She doesn’t have to, and yeah, he can be salty about that, but the only reason we don’t know if your other advisors disapprove of you disagreeing with them is that their approval system is hidden.

You can disagree with him and still gain enough approval to trigger the romance etc. All you have to do is ask questions, keep an open mind, help other people and be merciful when you sit in judgement. It’s not that hard.

I’ve heard it said that he treats her like a child who doesn’t know anything. Hello? Is there another Fade expert in the house? Does your Lavellan know everything there is to know about The Fade, spirits and demons? No. No more than she knows about spying, the nobility or directing an army. No one thinks what Cullen tells the Inquisitor is condescending or treating her like she is a child or an idiot. Also Solas does know a lot of things she doesn‘t because he was there. He is sharing that info. He won’t share it if you don’t ask him questions about it.

Another charge. Solas is cold. He is certainly aloof but in his post-Fade kiss conversation with Lavellan he is almost playful. He is concerned about where it might lead but he is almost happy. He admits he isn’t usually thrown by things that happen in dreams, but he is “reasonably certain we are awake, now and he would enjoy talking.” That’s not someone cold and aloof. That is someone reaching out.

Another charge. Solas makes Lavellan chase him. Nope. As attracted as Solas is to Lavellan he would much rather she focus her attentions elsewhere. That’s why he asks for time to think. He’s hoping she will wander off and flirt with someone else. Lavellan drives the relationship. He gives in against his better judgement. It isn’t a game to him.

Another comment is that you have to work hard and break down a lot of barriers to romance him. Um, yes? He is constantly saying he has trust issues. If Lavellan wants to pursue a relationship knowing that, then she only has herself to blame for the outcome.

I’ll just end by saying I was in a truly toxic, emotionally abusive relationship. Not the kind of relationship where you get a drink with friends and say “Yeah he was totally toxic.” The kind of relationship where you need professional therapy to deal with it. If anyone is going to be triggered by that romance it would be me. I’m not. I know what it is like to be condescended to, to have someone constantly say or imply that you are incompetent and worthless. Solas doesn’t do those things. He is impressed by her, he admires her, he thinks she is competent enough to go to when he needs help. He tells her that. Trust me, an emotional abuser does none of those things.

Anyway, thanks for listening.

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ukingk24 · 2 months

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So I finished the Avatar Live Action and while overall, it was a good attempt at emulating the original series, the finale of the LA was perhaps the weakest episode, particularly for what it did to Katara, and I'll explain why.

Her biggest arc in season 1 in the original is that she starts off slow because she's naturally self-taught. She gets better and better but eventually her hard work and talent only goes so far and she hits a wall, so she needs a master to teach her. That master, Pakku, denies her and she challenges him. She looses the fight, but wins the ideological war and Pakku and the North change their ways because of Katara's determination. She literally fights the patriarchy and wins!

That does not happen in the live action!!

In the LA, she still fights Pakku, she still looses, and Pakku still doesn't change! The patriarchy still stands! But it turns out, that doesn't matter because Katara's a master already!! Somehow!?! Her fight with Zuko in the LA literally goes like this

Zuko: You little peasant! You found a master!

Katara: Yeah, you're looking at her!

What!!?? That doesn't even work as a "girl power" moment because there's absolutely nothing to suggest that she had reached that level all on her own. No flashback or montage of her watching Pakku's classes in secret and then practicing on her own, no Aang teaching her what Pakku taught him, no her going through scrolls to learn, nothing! You can't even say it's because of her experience in battle because there's a noticeable difference in her skill from before she gets to the North and after. In the original, the moment she gets that proper guidance and instruction, her skill skyrockets to master level.

In the LA, she's just that good because the show needed her to be.

The North and Pakku eventually do change their ways on women fighting, yes, but it's not because of Katara. It's because of war. It's only during and after the siege of the North, when he sees the devastation and damage done, does Pakku change. And initially, that's only because there aren't enough troops, so he relents and begrudgingly allows the women on the front lines. Katara is the one that points out to him that the women are there and willing to fight, but it's only the external factor of war and the Siege that makes Pakku change his mind, not Katara's determination. The patriarchy was dissolved because of the war-time logistics emergency, it was not defeated because it was wrong.

It is a disservice to Katara's character and to what she achieved in the original.

#avatar #avatar the last airbender #atla #atla live action #atla netflix #avatar live action #avatar la #katara #pakku #master pakku #zuko #prince zuko #avatar netflix

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americana-antihero · 9 months

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Long post, but TLDR: Lois is allowed to be flawed.

Everyone and their mother is talking about how Lois responded to Clark's secret. It seems like many are on the side of Lois, believing she did nothing wrong. And then there are many who are on the side of Clark, believing he did nothing wrong.

Before I say what I believe, let me make this point: it seems that any time a female character does something wrong, fans immediately dislike the character from that point onward. And before anyone thinks I am referring only to male fans, nope! It's actually all of my female friends who grow immediately disgusted with the female character and refuse to redeem her.

And honestly, it's hard to blame them. Because often, when a female character does something that is morally wrong, it's not written as a character flaw that she will learn to work through. It's written as an Epic Girl Power Moment! Look at this Strong Indepedent Woman! She'll jump off a building to prove she's right - that's so cool and edgy and not a sign of emotional instability at all!

What Lois did came from a place of emotional instability, and that's not a bad thing. The writers need to lean into that to flesh her out as a character, and I think they will.

Someone else mentioned how Lois's issues with her father have led to this moment. Her father concealed everything from her, and growing up, Lois probably had to learn how to get the truth out of him, even if she had to use manipulation. It was kind of a survival skill. She can't stand not knowing something, and that's why she's at a job where she gets to learn EVERYTHING.

So now she's got this good friendship with Clark in which she has tried to be more open with him than their first story together. They have built trust. When Lois finds out that he is Superman, she gives him the chance to open up to her. Judging by her playful attitude, if Clark told her that he is Superman, Lois would have probably reacted positively.

And then things take a turn. Lois is so desparate for the truth that she handcuffs herself to Superman. And then he leaves her at the Daily Planet so she won't get hurt.

That's probably when Lois was at her most unstable. Because that whole time, she waited for him, wondering if he would get hurt. And when she saw the scratches on Clark, it probably reminded her of how she felt when she found out her mom was sicker than her dad would admit. That was the nail in the coffin for her.

By taking a step off that building, Lois is acting out of unresolved grief.

Yes, what Lois did was wrong. But that doesn't make her a bad character. It makes her a real one. By trying to defend her actions as "good," "right," "just," and "morally sound," it would do a disservice to where the writers are going with her character. Or at least, where I hope they go. I really hope this isn't a case of "Epic Girl Power Moment."

As for Clark, he did nothing wrong. People (albeit few) are trying to say he should have told Lois the truth...but he already tried. His fear about her publishing his secrets was valid, because that's what she said in Episode 1 - "We'll make him tell us his secrets - AND THEN WE'LL PUBLISH THEM!" Clark has no reason to believe that Lois wouldn't do that.

I also think Clark struggles to see what people actually think of him. Because maybe if he could see how much Lois cares about him, he wouldn't have been scared to tell her the truth about his identity. Instead, he believes that she "hates" Superman...which she never said she did, that I can remember. Clark just assumed that.

So I think maybe Clark had an experience growing up that made him think that everyone would hate or disrespect him. Probably something to do with why he couldn't play sports, or how his connection with Lana ended up. It's seen in how desperate he is to be a "normal man with a normal life." He's afraid that people won't accept him for who he is.

If Clark and Lois talk through it, it could be the most touching moment in Clois history.

#my adventures with superman #my adventures with superman episode 5 #clark kent #lois lane #clois

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tubbytarchia · 3 months

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Also I need to say SOMETHING because I've been tormented by this for the past few days after having been made aware but yandere Pearl makes me so upset, imo it's such a disservice to her character!! That or other interpretations that just make her out to be evil. I understand the appeal of the trope and for AUs and stuff, ofc go wild!! But that is very much not what happened in DL canon and anyone who thinks that she's only interesting with the yandere trope attached is a fake fan!! Pearl was labelled crazy and of course she leaned into it, because what else does she do? Nobody wants her, everyone believes she's lost it, so she might as well!! At the very least it serves as some intimidation that Pearl CAN use to her advantage but did she ever want to? She's not crazy for Scott, not by any stretch of the imagination. She wanted some kind of approval, or acceptance. She didn't just want Scott to herself or whatever argument people try to make and she most certainly wasn't evil or cruel. Many times when people were getting up to mischief, Pearl didn't take large part if at all even if she was there. She often played along and, yeah, she played along, like most Lifers would, no? I can see how her behaviour could be observed as obsessive when she keeps trying to settle near Scott but, I don't even know how to articulate my thoughts other than to reinforce that that wasn't her obsessing over Scott. I suppose you could view Pearl as evil depending entirely on what you classify as evil in a death game where most everyone has to kill anyway, and where a lot of people commit arson and stuff (Joel killed some Jellies, loved to bully Jimmy, retaliated having the Relationship burnt down by burning every other establishment he could, is he also evil? What makes Pearl evil? Does she just get called that more because Joel is expected to be a menace by default?), but there is so much more nuance there than some form of "she flipped on a dime in session 1 and immediately became a crazy ex after a breakup". But you know what, that's what Scott wanted people to believe and if anyone in the fandom does then I have news for you

Also I'm not trying to say that playing a villain character is bad (Scott is such a villain though not at all a plainly visible one, and he's very compelling as a character) nor am I trying to make Pearl out to be some totally innocent sweetpea. Or maybe I am. #Pearl did literally nothing wrong to warrant this (but like, art of her being girlboss and stuff goes hard still, she OWNED the scene still when she embraced the label. She was mad cool, but it's not "being evil" that makes a character mad cool)

(PS don't take this too seriously, although I do heavily disagree with this interpretation personally, I'm not police and also I love all the Lifers including Scott dearly. Reminder that this is just about the characters they play and it's reasonable for viewers to believe his story foremost if they've only watched his POV and such, I think)

#RAHHHHHHH I trust that most of you guys dont think this but if anyone still does then Im severly disappointed #I'm sure there's other older posts somewhere voicing this exact thing but #god I cannot tell you how much this has been eating away at my brain for two days straight #god I really hope this is the general consensus for people who care about traffic or DL Pearl #please god I hope.#blabber

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cupcakeslushie · 1 year

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About that crossover thing- I am exclusively a rise fan. It’s the first iteration I’ve ever committed to actually watching because i liked the art style. I know next to nothing about 2k12 or it’s characters, and the Raph bashing still pisses me off majorly.

A lot of the time it comes off as putting the rise turtles on some sort of pedestal, which is… uncomfortable. I don’t even know this man, but I am very certain he is Not That Terrible.

I will never understand why, when fandoms have situations like this, with multiple iterations meeting, we have to shit on one version to make the other one look better. Like a little razzing is understandable, but calling 2012 Raph abusive? Hell no. As an only child (who was raised with a lot of cousins), I can say with absolute certainty, those ppl have no siblings. Get out of here with that.

Like, every version of the boys are just stupid chaotic siblings, ALL OF THEM. Rise Raph might be a gentle giant but that sweet bitch has his own anger issues. He’s definitely a Raph in his own right. And while Rise Raph is dealing with being the eldest, there’s no question every one of the Rise boys is better behaved than 2012 Mikey.

2012 Raph is dealing with having 2012 Mikey as a little brother, constantly pushing his buttons on purpose…I’d lose my temper quite a lot as well…I love Mikey, but goddamn, he’s is a little menace in 2012. He’s not an innocent little UWU who never did anything wrong, like a lot of the fandom wants to paint him as. That boy loved driving his brothers crazy. And it’s honestly a disservice to his character to make it seem like he doesn’t give back as much shit as he gets, and just lays down and takes it.

If the groups did meet, I think the 2012 boys would be a little thrown off at first, as they’re the older, more experienced ones, but it wouldn’t take long before they were having a ton of fun with the Rise boys. These are, after all the very turtles who caused total and complete havoc the first time they went to an alien planet.

#ask slushie #rottmnt #rise of the tmnt #rise raph #tmnt 2012 raph #tmnt 2012 #tmnt

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They might be just a loud minority, but I've seen quite a few people call Ed an 'irredeemable monster', so while I agree that he's imperfect and that he has hurt others, I can't help but double down on all the clues given by the show that could explain the extent of his trauma and why he believed he was so unloveable. I have sympathy for him, but many didn't, and I guess that makes me sad a bit.

Yes and to be clear: I am not at all saying “let’s talk about how terrible Ed is!” He’s not terrible; he’s been hurt and abused and he’s had to survive in a very violent society where the softer parts of him are not only not valued, but are derided and in fact quite dangerous to show. He finds a place and a person with whom he feels safe and then loses it, for no clear reason, and gets shoved harder into the trap of Blackbeard by someone who claims to love him. Ed is very much a sympathetic character and he’s meant to be sympathetic, regardless of what the bad faith and racist interpretations attempt to argue.

It does a disservice to him to not let him fuck up and still not be a monster. That’s the point - he’s done bad things and he’s not a bad person. He IS lovable and he’s worthy of love. What I think sometimes gets lost, especially in commentary about Season 1, is that Ed has done bad shit and he still causes pain to people that love him (especially Stede). And he’s still not monstrous! Good people can hurt others! Both of our leads cause pain and they’re still good men and they try to make it right. One of the things that Ed learns over the course of two seasons is how to apologize; that saying something or doing something hurtful doesn’t mean “you’re irredeemable” and it doesn’t mean “you did nothing wrong.” He fucked up and he’s still loved!

#ofmd meta #ofmd #our flag means death #reply #edward teach

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mulderscully · 1 year

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the way people talk about ten and martha's relationship is so narrow minded that it's starting to drive me insane. according to the fandom, either martha is the worst ever or the doctor is the worst ever when neither of those things are true. they're both good people who care about each other but aren't compatible for various reasons.

in season three the doctor is mourning rose. whether you like it or not he was in love with her. and in a sense, to him in that time, she JUST essentially died. i feel like people don't take into consideration how genuinely messed up he was at this time. in the runaway bride he almost killed himself, as we see in turn left: if donna hadn't stopped him he would have drowned. he was not in a good mental place.

martha meets the doctor and quickly develops a crush on him, which is understandable, and him "kissing" her doesn't help. but he is VERY clear with her that the kiss meant nothing, that it was a genetic transfer to protect her and that he was NOT interested in her - or in anyone. he knew he should not be traveling with anyone else at that point, but at the same time he needs companionship to stay sane.

i love martha, i genuinely think she is one of the best companions there is, but she is not very compassionate about the fact that the doctor has lost someone that he clearly loved very much. and ideally he should have been clearer about who rose was to him, but i feel like it's clear that it's obvious.

a lot of people give the doctor shit for "rose would know" comment and i do feel that comment was a hurtful thing to say, but he wasn't being intentionally malicious to martha here. he was just thinking about how rose would know what to say to comfort him because he was in love with her. not because martha isn't smart or capable or anything of that sort. does that make his comment okay? no! but intent matters.

he brings martha to new earth because he's missing rose and he wants to feel close to her in whatever way he can, and there is nothing inherently wrong with that since he had NO romantic intentions or feelings for martha. he made that exceedingly clear- she calls herself a rebound, but that doesn't make her one either.

did martha deserve better? of course. martha is put into many unfair situations, and there are a lot of things i think should have been done differently but the show never denies that the doctor was a dick to her. the show never denies that he hurt her by being too focused on his own grief and generally uncaring.

what makes martha's arc impactful is that it is realistic. i have been martha. a lot of us have! you love someone who doesn't love you the same way so you get hurt along the way. you convince yourself they COULD see you that way if x,y,z but they never do. at which point you have to realize you have to put yourself first and remove yourself from the situation. and that's important, that's powerful, that's part of the human experience.

martha grew as a character, she saved the world, she took her power back and became her best self because and despite what she went through in s3. by acting like she's just a helpless victim you do her character a great disservice by ignoring the person that she became.

and in turn the doctor grew and learned from that experience as well!

the doctor is allowed to be wrong, the companion is allowed to be wrong. sometimes at the same time. what a concept.

#dw

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Hello. And what is the secret? It seems to me that this is a completely neutral phrase about a nephew/comrade "Laenor was a loyal companion. I loved him well». or will there be more detailed scenes later, for example in episode 7? Do you think daemon really missed laenor, not rhaenyra, and was in love with him? To be honest, I think this ship is completely inappropriate in this show and it's good that it wasn't included, I don't think it was even filmed. I think daemon's bisexuality needed to be demonstrated in the first half of the season, and the affair with laenor really looks ridiculous, as an option they could create a new character of daemon's lover on the steps

i wasn't going to reply to this since i did on twitter, but honestly this reads as insanely homophobic to me.

the scene went like this: laena comes to see daemon and he sees him stroking the hair of a squire. it's described as an intimate scene. (in episode 4, we saw him kiss both a man and a woman in the brothel in a cut scene). then laena, looking at the squire, says, "i miss my brother, as, i think, do you." daemon then replies that laenor was a loyal companion and he loved him well.

if you switched out the squire to a maid, and switched out brother to sister, and laenor was rhaenyra or some other woman, everyone would be screaming that it is romantic. because IT IS.

i never said that laenor and daemon being together threatens daemyra. nothing does to me. it's so clear that the writers like writing daemyra as destined lovers who are both very very similar. laenor doesn't threaten the ship, neither does laena or harwin. it's when people insist the opposite that it's annoying.

they clearly filmed some of daemon's bisexuality, but i think cutting it does the character a disservice. it explains what happens in episode 7, why daemon would go through the lengths he did to ensure that laenor got away safely. it wasn't just for rhaenyra but also for someone he cares about.

calling a relationship inappropriate presumes there's something taboo or bad about it. laenor was an adult at the time, what's wrong with him and daemon having sex? just say you don't like mlm relationships and move on, honestly. because as someone who clearly loves daemyra and someone who ships them primarily, this is not a threat to me at all. good for laenor and good for daemon!

#HOTDS1Script #ask #homophobia will not be tolerated #also shades of biphobia like why does it matter when his bisexuality is shown?

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evilhasnever · 1 year

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man the replies and tags on my last reblog are so wild... people are so adamant that jgy and wwx have NOTHING in common, as if it offends them personally that the protagonist and the antagonist are intentional parallels to make a point about society (and not about their individual morality)

"jgy did it for himself" (nothing wrong with wanting to be respected/ not insulted everywhere he goes)

"jgy killed people for ambition" (no, he killed people for self preservation + everyone in the jianghu kills people for less?)

"jgy married his sister and killed his son" (the in/cest was accidental, he married her to protect her reputation instead of repudiating her, and he ALLEGEDLY killed his son, but this accusation is only raised by notorious gossip sect leader Yao in the novel, so ymmv)

"jgy never helped anyone else (unlike wwx)" This one is just WILD? Even ignoring all of the above, this one just shows you have not been paying attention to him. What about that time he won the war for the Sunshot forces, saved NMJ's life in Nightless city, saved Lan Xichen in hiding, rebuilt the Cloud Recesses, built the Watchtowers that saved thousands of commoners over the years (many more than some random night hunt by the gentry ever had), and single handedly gave a decade of peace and prosperity to the jianghu?

That is not to say he did not commit atrocities to protect himself (again, he was hardly the only one to do so) but... way to absolutely ignore all of the significant, enormous good he did. He saved so, so many more people than anyone else in the story. Tenfold, a hundredfold more. I have to assume not much thought was spared to JGY's motivations to have such an incomplete and two-dimensional view of him... I encourage you to think past the villain bias and go back to the actual story to fact check (and for what it's worth, if you've only seen CQL/The Untamed I assure you you don't have all the facts!)

The salient point is that mxtx makes these parallels between wwx and jgy on purpose, and none of it is about who is "good" or "bad" and what is "deserved". You do the story a disservice by flattening it to good vs bad., and besides it simply does not work if you read it that way: if the story were simply about good people winning and bad people getting their due, how do you explain what happened to XXC, WQ, WN, etc?

#food for thought #jgy apologism #jgy meta #listen #I know I shouldn't waste time on discourse when there is fic to be written but some of the BLATANT misinformation going around...

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themattress · 6 months

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Thank you, @ultraericthered.

The problem both of these people have is that they think in very literary and binary terms when discussing characters. Azula and Ozai are villains, this is inarguable. Iroh and Ursa are not villains, this too is inarguable. But then people like these two latch on to this fact so hard that when others present canonical evidence that "hey, these good guys made mistakes that inadvertently helped shape this villain into being the way she is", it blows their mind. "What!? Non-villains can't do anything wrong! Only villains do wrong! DOES NOT COMPUTE! This person is trying to pretend villains aren't villains and that non-villains are villains, that's the only explanation!" The notion of Iroh and Ursa failing Azula being factual canon without changing the fact that they aren't villains and that Azula is a villain is one they can't wrap their heads around. It's an incredible disservice to an animated franchise as complex as Avatar.

Also, the double standards are priceless. If Azula "being mean to Iroh and rejecting his attempts at help" are valid justifications for him writing her off as a lost cause, then I have to question why the Hell he didn't break away from Zuko before Book One was even over.

#Azula #Iroh #Ursa #Fandumb #Stupidity #Hypocrite #Double Standards #Agreement #Truthbomb #Avatar #The Last Airbender

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