#idk shes actually really manipulative

[mags-writes]

me, 14 and reading the end of mockingjay:

me, 24 and reading the end of the ballad of songbirds and snakes:

#the hunger games #the hunger games: mockingjay #mockingjay #the hunger games: the ballad of songbirds and snakes #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #suzzane collins #no amount of poverty or tragedy could possibly make coriolanus snow into a decent person #i went into the book knowing that it would make him out to be sympathetic and then he would just be The Worst™ #but he really really really REALLY is just The Fucking Worst™ #spoiler! the man just up and stole his friends parents! the friend that he got KILLED! #also the way that she was always referred to at lucy gray/lucy gray baird was very telling #he never called her lucy. just lucy. it was always lucy gray #even in their last scene together he was calling out for lucy gray not lucy #idk something something he doesnt see her as herself he sees her as an idea a tribute on a pedestal she has to think the same way as him #and when she doesnt he gets angry she has to love him only and when she admits to having a lover before him he gets angry #he gets angry and she has to apologise he gets angry and its always her fault she's the backwards thinker and he's far above her #idk his superiority complex was so intriguing especially since i think lucy was playing him and the capital like a fucking fiddle #nearly everything she said was too perfect for her to actually think like that #and when she said something wrong she would sooth him over #both manipulators in their own way and for completely different reasons #his was for superiority and her's was for survival

[rotisseries]

😐 this is worse than I remember but definitely salvageable if we put our heads together

#I'm genuinely so confused cause he doesn't seem upset by her answer. like he's just asking for shits and giggles. just curious?? #it still doesn't actually really read romantic to me it's just that it's such an odd thing to say in this moment #I'd argue even that this whole thing could easily be familial #if not for annabeth specifying “you were like a brother to me but I didn't love you” #which tells you that obviously here love can't be used in the familial sense #but other than that it's not really romantic either?? she says no. luke seems unsurprised and not disappointed. #percy isn't even jealous about the topic coming up #which on that last point even if percy was jealous that still doesn't mean much to me teen boys will get jealous over anything #but he doesn’t #but like. why did luke even ask then??? he's not manipulating her cause there's nothing to get out of that #like. ok really I think he could easily just be trying to gage exactly how much he hurt her #this isn't even that bad y'all are dramatic🙄 #don't ask me about silena idk anything about that. kronos was probably in charge there anyway

[dolldefaced]

re: the you remain unavenged line and all the joker headlines

i feel like talia hoped that jason would stay put after lazarus pitting him and that she could meet up and they could form a little plan to kill da joker baby and then go do that and she could drop him off w/ bruce and things would be fine bc he'd be too distracted to think about dead jokers and jason would be like yeah talia's great so positive feelings all around

or if jason was as out of control as ra's thought he'd be, he'd at least go haring after the joker and kill him and nothing of consequence would've happened by the time she caught up bc who cares if the joker's dead and if she could calm him down we could slide right into plan a

but ofc jason and bruce's relationship was full of friction (especially about justice/vengence) before he died in a way idk talia would've realized (or even possibly known) and ofc the betrayals he felt from parental figures right before he died all probably played into how he went off script (for her) and tried to blow up bruce asap

like i dont think that possiblity crossed her mind with how shocked she acted after coming across jason!

she catches him right after and is like woah. fuck. close call. i hope my father wasnt right! distracting him with teachers and realizing jason is the same post egon, it was just some immediate post death trauma and if she distracts him long enough he wont want to do too much to bruce.

and then death and the maidens happens :(

#talia al ghul #jason todd #dc #lost days #pretty sure all her egging jason on about getting revenge on bruce (hush stuff - her telling him to get revenge for them both) happens #literally right after the traumafest that was datm #before then she wasnt really about it beyond lip service i think #or at least that's how im choosing to interpret it #sorry i saw another talia manipulating jason post and its like her manipulation was trying to stall him killing batman alsdkfhasd #and post datm it's like all shes doing is going actually no youre right fuck him up lmao #she never tells him about the other robin...jason finds that out on his own as far as i can tell. like it wasnt secret it was in the news #obv this is a very blithe post but this is always what i assume her motivations were #idk how canon the demon who laughs is but talia shot the joker there so i assume she gives 0 fucks about him dying #and she enjoyed it there! so like. i figure that was the plan for her wrt jason

[padfootastic]

This sainthood of Lily is a bit funny, because Lily was out here making excuses for her best friend’s blood purity for legit years, she had to repeatedly make excuses for him to her other friends and she admits this in DH. It’s actually more interesting to think about that side of her, the side that refuses to let go of a loved one and won’t accept what they’ve become until she quite literally has no choice but to do so.

no but this is what im saying!!! saint lily, mix of hermione and molly weasley, is so funny but also so boring to me like,,,

i dont think lily was ever opposed to james in swm because of the macro 'bullying innocents' aspect. i think it was a problem only bc he targeted snape (and thats an imp distinction for me) bc we know, from her later conversations, that she was friends with snape knowing his friends (and him, presumably) tortured/bothered innocent muggleborns and didn't really do anything until it came to her. she gives off more of the ~privileged minority vibes than ~social justice warrior to me, tbh. and it's interesting--because not making her a paragon of morality is so much more fascinating to me.

like, lily as a cutthroat, slytherin-adjacent muggleborn who's doing all she can to not just survive, but thrive.

#lily evans #like isnt it interesting if lily was actually slyth at heart ' #but the only reason she didnt go there is bc the hat decided it wasnt conducive for her bc the house is too hostile #but her core traits r still cunning and manipulation and arrogance etc #like. for one fic--i wrote her a super competive almost overcompensating muggleborn in the middle of privileged purebloods and i actually #really liked it? #just. idk. lily as a flawed and not entirely good human. thats all i ask for #idk her relationship w snape just seems v telling to me #for where her boundaries lie #someone on here said she gives off massive 'i can fix him' energy and im so down for that #pen’s asks

[nemesis-is-my-middle-name]

i was going to crack a joke about how the only thing on my lore wishlist for the dlc was that they would finally explain why the hell marika got impaled and crucified on the elden ring. and then it occurred to me that our one canon named boss so far is an archetypical erdtree traitor-styled demigod quite literally titled the impaler

#the nemesis speaks #oh. OHHHHH. #and the shard of whatever is red too! #i'm connecting the dots i'm connecting them #...which also makes his canon dialogue even more interesting bc it fairly strongly implies he's still? loyal? to the erdtree? #if not actually marika herself #which could actually explain. that discrepancy. if he Knew she was turning against the greater will and that's why he acted against her? #man the timeline on this whole thing makes no fucking sense whatsoever but. idk. compels me. #OR it's possible that this was all part of marika's design. she needed to be fractured with the ring so she made him do it #either as a willing collaborator or manipulated into it #which is allll kinds of fucked up but in character for marika #either way she was knowingly damning her own child to a permanently blackened reputation as a traitor to the lands between themselves #when he was in actuality only acting according to the design of the queen eternal herself #i feel like i'm not really capturing all my thoughts on paper here but oh well. anyway. if i am even a little bit right #bark bark bark i need to get my teeth in this man and shake him apart like a chew toy. lovingly. GIVE ME YOUR SECRETS.

[periphrasis]

sometimes i miss the ordered structure of living in may 2020 quarantine

attend online class from bed with giant iced coffee

get into discord fight

get into tiktok fight

go for 2 hour walk

call my then best friend now girlfriend until like 5 am

sleep with 6 specific plushies that had the same spot on my bed every night

repeat

#really i also miss feeling free of gendered expectations and perception #and also being 17 because in my brain I make new and better choices and actually value my time as a teenager #!!! #can’t sleep #cybie speaks #isaac posting #also I just associate periods of my life w rly strong sensory experiences #I can taste the exact way I’d make my iced coffee then perfectly 4 years later #and feel the ache in my legs after spending so long walking every day #and yeah #hugging my friend at our drive in graduation after she helped me jump start my moms car #idk I heard a tiktok song from that era and I’m #wishing things were different #I didn’t actually have to be so insane and awful I could have been so normal #at least I met kris #and like that whole friend group #but agh #i was so transparently manipulative and yet also so transparent manipulated #and like why??? what was the reason I could’ve just dicked around on tiktok #fuck #and now I’m about to be a grad student

[enbeemagical]

You know, tonight was supposed to be fun. Going out with my grandmother to a performance that she got tickets to for her and my mom and then my mom went bonkers and canceled on her so I got to go.

Only then

I found myself unable to text or call anyone. My phone informed me this was a problem with the provider. When I tried making calls, it connected me with the provider. I learned that my account has been suspended for nonpayment.

Up until now I have been on my mother's phone plan. We spoke about it earlier this month and Mother Dearest informed me that the line was paid until February. Mother Dearest lied, or canceled it early, because I can't think of anything else that would do it. I don't think she lied bc I get regular texts from the provider saying the payment processed on the 4th of the month.

And the only catalyst I can think of for her canceling my line today is me calling the neighbor this morning to ask if my younger siblings were okay since. You know. Mother Dearest has cut off contact with the rest of the fjcking family.

#vent #personal #magi's mommy issues #cw abuse mention #I do not say this lightly: #she is emotionally abusive and manipulative #and her boyfriend is at Least as bad probably worse and my grandma and uncle are worried he'll escalate to physical violence #I want a relationship with my mother I really do #I miss her #but I'm scared he's taken away the version of my mother I could actually enjoy being around for good #there are very few real people in this world I actually hate in a very real and tangible way and not a distant way #but I hate him #so FUCKING much #the minute my siblings no longer live with him I'm blocking him on everything and maybe mom too idk #I'm fucking furious at her for letting this happen #SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US AND INSTEAD SHE INVITED AN ABUSER INTO HER HOME TO LIVE WITH US

[capaldiera]

man idgaf about what treville and richelieu have going on (mostly nothing) (they dont like each other but they work together a lot bc of their jobs.) (i guess treville holding onto a sense of honour whilst working with the cardinal is interesting but like that's not. thats not really those two having something interesting going on). lets talk about the king and the cardinal man.

#the way the king sometimes resents the cardinal's influence but is so easily manipulated to feel lost without it. #the fact that he'll openly acknowledge the cardinal wants him to rule unfairly and play favourites. with a fond look on his face #''i will disband their whole regiment if that's what it takes to make you happy. only please don't leave me alone'' with tears in his eyes #all of which was exactly what the cardinal was going for and he just gets away with it! #the queen finds out he was trying to have her Killed and she says yeah fuck you obvi but i wont tell the king tho bc he loves you ? #i'm not saying any of this is like romantic to be clear lol. it's just very interesting #i mean i dont think it can probably be categorised really. but im definitely not calling it that #it is super interesting though the way the cardinal needs to undermine the queen and place himself closer to the king to succeed in his aim #it would be somewhat appropriate for sure to say its kind of a parent-child relationship in some ways but that's definitely not all of it #in terms of the way the king relies on him and his guidance. but again thats not all of it and he's not a child. or not actually a child. #and i could say this about any of the relationships between men on the show but of course Because they're both men that means the #Possibility of it being anything but fully platonic is not something he can acknowledge and for that reason whether it is or Not there's #still going to be a level of repression and denial that just complicates things. even though/if theres not truly anything to deny #meanwhile honestly i think the cardinal is personally being normal about it even tho he's a freak about a lot of other things #i mean idk that was my impression. i am sorta-watching through s1 again so maybe i'll develop my ideas on that #anyway #me.txt #musketeers posting

[iqmmir]

Everyday i am forced to read takes on muu

#i say this but its actually really interesting to me to see how others interpret characters #anyways. its not like 'shes not actually pitiful and shes actually prideful' #like idk how to explain this but hm #after pain. the song is taken straight from her mind. she cant ACTIVELY influence it #she genuinely considers herself as pitiful there #she considers herself as weak during after pain #more specifically around trial one #in trial two however after getting the inno she convinces herself that. she can get whatever she wants #she can get whatever she wants → she bullied people → she is the queen bee . therefore by the #conclusion that she isnt weak #she is the one in the wrong #its a matter of her mental state more than anything else #when people are against her she is drowning in self pity #when they are on her side she is convinced she is manipulating them #.mimiming ❜ #my milgram thoughts

[deputy-morgan-malone]

What’s Your OC’s red flag?

@adelaidedrubman tagged me to take this uquiz to find out my OC/s’ red flags, and I’d actually already taken it for funzies, so here it is immediately.

Tagging @turbo-virgins, @marivenah, @socially-awkward-skeleton, @noetikat, @ishwaris, @josephslittledeputy, and @statichvm​ - sorry for any double-tags and no pressure!  Anyone else who wants to do this, consider this an open tag.

Deputy Morgan Malone (FC5 OC)

manipulative

you're probably a passive aggressive person. you frequently lie, and gaslight to get your way. you never want to be held responsible for your actions so you avoid situations by either victimizing yourself, belittling others concerns, hiding the truth, and using threats to harm yourself or others

#so i hate this result for morgan #which as per usual had led me to thinking 'or is it something about her i don't want to admit??? because she's a mary sue????' #but lying is something she's properly against and doesn't like doing and actually finds quite stressful #having to maintain a story rather than just act in accordance with what she really thinks is happening #passive aggressive - maybe?? #she doesn't always connect with other people well and if she felt judged would probably rather duck out of the conversation somehow #and she wouldn't be aggressive about it #but mostly she'd just leave #go huddle in her room or sulk or go for a LONG hik #*hike #if she was trapped in a situation she might get a little passive aggressive - making comments and maybe playing the martyr a bit #to try to get people to leave her alone #'using threats to harm others or herself'...not really #idk she *can* be a bit manipulative in dire straits or under emotional strain but it's not one of those results i really love for her #tag games #uquiz

[fortes-fortuna-iogurtum]

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#I do really wish Eliza would stop using people to her own advantage all the time tho :/ #or at least that it would have consequences sometimes #she's not a psychopath; she's not completely unfeeling; and she won't harm people outright to get what she wants #but she can be quite manipulative and she definitely maintains a lot of relationships for the sake of what she gets out of them #while being annoyed if she's asked to put much into them #it would be nice if the writers would focus of developing either her awareness of that #or would begin to address how handling all relationships like this is A Problem Actually #especially given the fact that William is having to face similar situations #and it definitely seems to me as though the narrative intends the audience to feel uncomfortable about it #eventually leading to a point where he will have to decide between following orders and playing the favours game and doing what's right #and fair and just. #idk there are several different ways this issue could be addressed and handled tbh. #I just want to know that it IS going to be addressed and handled. #I don't want to see Eliza get away with using people and potentially hurting them for her own gain #and there never be any consequences just because she's the heroine of the series or bc she's a woman and she has to be sly and conniving #all the time #because the system is set up against her #and therefore it's ok #tag ramble #probably gonna delete this later dsfkjsdh

[baltears]

people who still think james hurley is boring and annoying after seeing the way he interacted w laura in fwwm. i respect you but i do not understand you

#listen. listen. actually seeing his interactions with laura turned me around on him. #people saying it was annoying that he said she loved him. im so sorry but i think you are misreading that interaction. #the thing is laura knew she was smarter than james and also that he was sort of this guileless and genuine person she could manipulate. #however james has a level of emotional intelligence that i think a lot of people miss. #He said that she loved him because he was able to look past her insulting him to see that she was lashing out #and he also was both emotionally secure enough and emotionally aware enough to realize that laura does love and care about him #and that she is prone to lashing out at people she loves because she is extremely traumatized and in a lot of pain. #i simply think that james hurley rights. people are way too mean to him he's a good character #and i think his relationship with laura and his place in her life really says a lot about her character #(as do others but like I'm saying in a unique way that would not be present without him) #twin peaks #Like i know he also does dumb stuff but consider that like all the other kids in the show he is a kid. idk.

[thefaearealwaysamongyou]

Not to get melancholy on main but does anyone else ever think about people they were close with and cut off with good reason and wonder about how they're doing and want to reach again even when they know it'll just suck them back in again

#vent #vent tw #melancholy on main #Idk if this actually counts as a vent but I wanted to tag just in case #I'm thinking abt my online friend who was super manipulative #It was kind of obvious that she was only doing it bc she had a shit homelife and needed someone stable #It still wasn't good for either of our mental healths #She REALLY had weird kinks that she tried to involve me in via roleplay

[geffenrecords]

they should make friends tht r fucking good to talk to abt yr emotions jesus christ

#nvr forget january/february where everytime i tried to talk to my friend abt my stupid fcking relationship issues she was like...well idk #man...youre just so.miserable and hard to be around haha...just stop acting like that.. #zyz #dude i wish that guy had just like beat me or manipulated me or soemthing so i could actually complain about it. he just made fun of me a #lot and was really annoying. it was bad but norhing i cant get over idk

[mummersblade]

genuine question do we think Jon and Bran will beef whenever they meet again

#it was in the outline and I can see the succession causing some strife between the Starks #but idk for all of Jon's ambition if Bran comes back demanding his birthright #I think Jon would give it? #yes yes outlines changed blah blah but idk I really am eager to see what issues the Starks have with one another in TWOW #cause we know it will not be a uwu we all love each other reunion from the get go #maybe arya and jon but throw everyone in the mix #grrm already confirmed Arya and Sansa have major issues to work out #and if one of them is Sansa's complicity in the annihilation of the Stark household in King's Landing I'd wonder how Jon and Brn take it #Rickon is a wildcard and I love him for that #speaking of Rickon the Stark succession crisis is gonna be a gateway for northern politicking like the Manderlys want a child lord #so they can advise and manipulate #northmen rallied in mass for Arya and she is technically lady of winterfell by proxy #Jon may be Robb's legitimized heir #while Bran is the actual heir of Winterfell #Sansa will have some Vale angle with LF but she's still a Lannister to the North and is behind Jon Bran and Rickon anyway #yes I'm writing a story about this but there's still like 20 different ways this can go down #george istg

[autisticlee]

I hate when people who want to "help" me are only doing it to make themsleves happy or comfortable and not me.

when people are basically like "how dare you not take my advice and do what I told you! dont dismiss me and what I say! I don't care if it doesn't work for you/make you happy/makes things harder for you, it makes me feel good when you do what I say and listen to me!"

i've had friends like this. one more recently from an ex friend group who straight up told me I was dismissing her for not even "trying" to do what she says, despite me saying I tried it previously and it didn't work. she always got upset at me if I had any problems with her advice and it didn't work. telling me i'm lazy and dismissive and giving up and making her feel bad because she's "just trying to help"

if you want to help someone, you have to make then happy, not yourself. meet their needs and work out the roadblocks that get in the way. dont call them dismissive for not taking your advice when YOURE dismissive of their needs and struggles. it's not about you of you're "juat trying to help" and especially of you claim you care about the person.

#lee rambles #dont know what to tag this #the ex friend who most recently said this to me was also the same one who claimed to be autistic as a gotcha moment #to be dismissive of my struggles with being autistic because she can do thjngs easily so that means i should 🙄 #she really is good at projecting. being dismissive of me and claiming im dismissive. gaslighting me and saying i am instead #idk what her issue was but she seemed to take out her issues on me??? after she kicked the one she liked least from thr group #who she previously projected her issues onto it seems like she moved to me until i was basically booted from the group through ghosting #and getting uninvited from the group trip for no reason. and she cant even talk to me herself. she sends our other friend to do it #one who i believe didn't actually have an issue with me but she still chose the manipulative one over me so i have issue with her #and they stole my pther friend from me and turned her against me #so i just left and gave up #screw them!!!!! #oops tags got super off topic um ignore these................ #lee rants #i did manage to actually find a therapist that takes my insurance though so i cam discuss these things with her #so the more i write about them the easier i will be to collect them when i need to email them to her once we get there