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jackdaw-kraai · 8 months

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I think there’s something rather strange going on with all the folks who insist that the Jedi Order in the PT was right and didn’t forbid love and Anakin should just have followed their teachings when the whole point of the prequels is that they are prequels. They come before the OT, and the OT proves the Jedi wrong. They literally do not make sense if they don’t do that.

Luke, in the original trilogy, gains his ultimate triumph, his ultimate victory, because he loved in defiance of the teachings of the old Order. He quite literally had the ghosts of the past telling him, explicitly and without ambiguity, that he has to put his love for his father aside and kill him, as is the duty of a Jedi. Luke has the weight of millennia of teachings weighing down on his shoulders, telling him they knew and know better than a young, inexperienced man barely out of his teenager years. That he should follow their teachings or be destroyed. That is an immense weight to carry, and many people would and explicitly have given in to it in-universe. What are your feelings and ideals in the face of such immense legacy, after all?

But Luke doesn’t give in.

He doesn’t bend.

He says “I may be young, and I may be new, but I believe to my heart and soul that love matters more than this legacy. Matters more than your teachings.” And he says this to the ghosts of his mentors. That is such a powerful moment and one I can’t believe George Lucas didn’t create deliberately for even a second. This young man, being told he has to kill or die trying for a system that is dead or dying itself, that couldn’t survive itself, and refusing to do so. He is the living refusing to continue the violence of a dead generation. He is the young man refusing the draft into a war the old generation started, saying “peace and love matters more than you being right.” He is the embodiment of breaking the cycle.

And the movies vindicate him.

The main villain vindicates him with his last dying breath.

Darth Vader, dying, says “You were right.” and admits he and his were wrong. The main antagonist, Luke’s nemesis, in the face of his son’s immense, defiant love, gives way and does the impossible: he comes back to the light and dies a Jedi. The very thing the old Order says was impossible.

They were wrong. They have to be. The narrative demands it, the movies don’t make sense without it.

The solution was never to continue the cycle of the old Order, or Luke would have failed there, would have failed when he said “I am a Jedi, like my father before me.” And claimed that defiant, deviant, condemned definition of being a Jedi over the one presented to him by the Grandmaster of the old Order. If the old Order was right, Luke would have to be wrong. Be wrong about love, be wrong about laying down the sword, be wrong about refusing to fight. He would have to be wrong.

But the old Order is dead, explicitly killed by a monster, in some part, of their own making. It’s members only existing as bones in the ground or ghosts speaking from beyond the grave. They did not deserve it, it should not have been inflicted on them, but the narrative is clear on this: “The old way is dead, and was dying for a long time before that. Long live the new.”

Luke is that new. Luke is the breaking of the cycle, the reforging of swords into ploughs, the extended hand. Luke says “I don’t care how much I was hurt, I refuse to hurt you back, and you don’t need to hurt me either.”

“We can end this together and choose love instead.”

And Darth Vader, killer of the Jedi, End of the Order, lays down his arms as well, and reaches back as Anakin, saying “You were right.”

It wasn’t Obi-Wan, Yoda, Mace, Qui-Gon, or even Ahsoka who achieved the ultimate victory in the end, following the tenants of the old Order. It was Luke. Young, inexperienced Luke, who saw that the age of legacy handed to him was only history, that the sword handed to him as his life was only a tool, and that the decrees of the dead were only advice. And he took it all, said “thank you for your experience, but I’ve got it from here,” and laid it all down to instead extend an open hand towards his enemy.

And his victory, his ultimate triumph, his vindication, was that he was proven right when his enemy reached back and became just another person. Just another person, just like him.

The Jedi did not deserve what happened to them, and they did not deserve to die. But the story is clear on this: the Jedi of old were wrong, and the Jedi of new, the Last Jedi, was right. No sword or death will ever end the rule of the sword or end the bloodshed. But love?

Love can ignite the stars.

#star wars #ot trilogy #pt trilogy #darth vader #anakin skywalker #luke skywalker #jedi

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maidenvault · 1 year

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RotJ makes a point of letting us know that Leia is Luke's sister, they've known this on some level for a long time, and he probably cares more about her than anyone in the world because this gives so much more weight to his conflict at the end of the movie, and I think this is a huge thing people overlook when they argue that him redeeming his father represents a rejection of the old Jedi ways of non-attachment. Because in the moment he has to let go of Leia and his friends to be able to actually save Anakin.

When Obi-Wan tries to convince Luke that he has to kill Vader and there's no other way, he doesn’t really discuss it as an issue of Luke having an attachment to him. I think he knows this isn't really the Jedi way but just like in the previous war, they don't seem to be faced with any good choices. Obi-Wan believes what Luke wants is truly impossible and, having failed to stop Vader when he could have before, of course he's trying to stop Luke from making the same mistake.

But it's significant that in the same conversation, Obi-Wan does warn him that his love for his sister could be made a liability if he's not careful. When Luke learns he has a twin and reveals how strong a connection he feels with Leia because he doesn't even have to be told who it is, Obi-Wan's response sets up how this will play into the climax of the film:

"Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down, Luke. They do you credit, but they could be made to serve the Emperor."

Then when Luke is brought to Sidious, he reveals to Luke that the Rebellion is walking right into a trap as a way to torment and provoke him. Luke gets angrier and angrier while helplessly watching the fleet get ambushed and finally does just what Sidious wants and tries to attack him. But it's Vader specifically threatening Leia that makes Luke totally lose control of his feelings and fight him in a rage.

Luke is basically facing the same kind of test he failed so badly in ESB by running off to help his friends. When Yoda is trying to make him see he's not ready to face Vader and keep him from going to Bespin, he says something that I think is such an underrated quote in its importance to Luke's whole journey:

"Decide you must how to serve them best. If you leave now, help them you could, but you would destroy all for which they have fought and suffered."

Luke is really lucky he doesn't get killed in Cloud City (or captured, which I think at this point could have resulted in him being turned). Yoda knows Luke is the one person with a chance of defeating the Emperor and Luke just about throws that away.

But at the end of RotJ when Luke cuts off Vader's hand, he surely is reminded of his failure at Bespin and sees the path he's starting down by succumbing to his fears like that again. He stops because he sees he's betraying his loved ones and everything he is. He can only throw away his weapon and confidently tell the Emperor to eat shit then because he's no longer afraid of dying or of those he loves dying. He's done what his father couldn't do and kept his soul intact, which is what Leia would want. Because real love isn't selfishly trying to save someone by betraying what they believe in like Anakin did with Padme. And it obviously has to be an incredibly powerful thing for Vader to see his own son able to do this, even comparing himself to the man he once was ("I am a Jedi, like my father before me").

We remember everything working out okay so it's easy sometimes to forget that Luke gives this triumphant speech when the rebel fleet is getting pulverized outside and things overall still look pretty hopeless. He probably expects he could die at this point. But like Obi-Wan in his own death scene, he knows nothing can destroy him now. And it's the love he feels for his family that gives him the strength to let go.

#luke skywalker #anakin skywalker #leia organa #jedi order #pro jedi #star wars #meta #my meta

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marvelstars · 4 months

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I really love Luke as a character but sometimes I don´t like how fandom pictures him as this little flower who would not hurt a fly and always tries to seek peaceful solutions to conflicts, like I get it because I don´t shut up about his part in redeeming his father on ROTJ either but people forget he almost killed his Dad before he did it.

Luke isn´t just a sweet little fellow who would his risk his life for friends and family to the last consequence. Luke isn´t just loyal to fault, he also is a soldier and if he needs to take a life because he is fighthing a War he will do it, no questions asked but he also won´t hold it agaisn´t his opponents if they do the same with him because again, it´s a war.

Another thing I love about Luke is that he truly doesn´t care much about authority, he is concious of it and has not trouble doing what his uncle tells him to do or the rebellion leadership tells him or to seek Yoda and Obi-Wan´s counsel when he has doubts but he also gives his own mind and in the end defines his decisions acording to what he personally believes it´s better acording to his personal philosophy, so he asks the rebellion for permission to train as a Jedi and leaves with or without permission, adds his own little mission on ROTJ to take Darth Vader out of the second Death Star before they blow it up and also tells Yoda and ObiWan in no uncertain terms that he wasn´t going to kill his father.

So in short Luke is this

But he is also this

It makes sense and I love that for him.

PD: Shadows of the Empire is from Legends but pictures Luke so perfectly that I wanted to add it.

There is an episode in which Luke and Leia are trying to fight off Black Sun because some of their operatives have been working with the rebellion but also betraying them, Prince Xizor was playing off the Empire and the Rebellion hoping they destroyed each other. So Leia gets into Prince Xizor Castle to spy on him but he captures her using a mind control pheromone so Luke decides to go with Lando, get Leia out and destroy Xizor´s castle while he is at it.

At the same time, Dath Vader was chilling in his own Palace on Coruscant, he was thinking about how to solve the lastest test of Palpatine in which he has to defeat Xizor ´s criminal organization that was growing too powerful within the empire but without his master having to notice it because currently he is an ally of Xizor and Xizor believes he can take Vader´s place alongside Palpatine.

So Vader is chilling and thinking about an elabore strategy worthy of Games of Thrones or the Padrino when his child out of nowhere makes Prince Xizor Palace explode. This act gives a reason for Vader to destroy the rest of his organization because Xizor was also partially working with the rebels.

There´s not need to say Vader was totally heart eyes for his kid after this. Like that´s his boy, look at him go. Also Xizor messed with his Kid, he is going to lose everything, Xizor is actually lucky he didn´t know Leia was also his kid imo. Those Skywalkers :)

#Luke skywalker #Leia Organa #star wars #Original trilogy #Darth Vader #Prince Xizor #Anakin skywalker #Skywalker family

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ahsoka-in-a-hood · 7 months

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Anyone else wanna dwell on Anakin and limits and boundaries? In TPM he objects to slavery as a condition of life, so he tests the limits of his cage, trying to think of a way to disable the bomb chips. He pushes past what should be possible for a human child to survive with his podracing. That's his doing. He also learns about the limits of his heroes. He dreams of being a Jedi, and what they can do. He learns they're aren't as powerful as he'd hoped. Qui Gon can't free his mother. And then Qui Gon dies, a mere mortal. Maybe it starts as early as then, his feeling that just being a Jedi isn't enough.

He pushes up against lines set around him. He wants to be a knight yesterday. He wants to overstep his mandate. He breaks rules. He's pushy in his relationships too. He tests Obi Wan's patience. He keeps flirting after Padme tells him to back off. He decides standard training doesn't go hard enough and knocks Ahsoka unconscious over and over. He has to be talked back from taking troops into situations that are beyond them.

He rebels against death. Why is there a limit? Why should it exist?

When it comes to the whole Chosen One thing, personally I am not into prophecy and it's trappings, but I love a Demi God thing. That fucks. I love the idea of touching the divine, feeling it, reaching out and trying to grasp it, so very close, but it slips away. He's as close to that blinding light as anyone has ever been, but it will still burn him. You're still a mortal, boy. Don't despair in the agony of it almost being within your reach.

If the thing he cares about the most is the people he loves, he pushes past their limits too. Padme and Obi Wan and Ahsoka can't accept the extremes he takes them too, it's too much, they are people in their own right, with values of their own. It only works out with Luke because he stops trying to push his terms when Luke holds his ground

(and yet, he submits as Vader. Perhaps the final form of the dark side is just despair. Resignation is not the same as serenity.)

#anakin skywalker #edited for luke

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gffa · 11 months

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I think it's meant to be a little bit of both--Lucas says of them: “Anakin and Padmé are getting married in what will be a doomed relationship, which they have already stated earlier on is not gonna work. But they do love each other. They’re truly in love with each other. It’s the issue of true love over duty. It’s really the 'Romeo and Juliet' aspect of it, of a doomed relationship, in more ways than one really. She married the wrong guy.“ --George Lucas, Attack of the Clones commentary “Anakin wants to have a family. He wants to be married to Padmé and have children. […] But at the same time he knows he can’t have one. Now the greed has taken over and the fear of losing his wife and baby. The whole point is you can’t possess somebody because they are their own person. You can’t dominate and make them do everything you want them to do.” --George Lucas, The Star Wars Archives1999-2005 "The core issue, ultimately, is greed, possessiveness - the inability to let go. Not only to hold on to material things, which is greed, but to hold on to life, to the people you love - to not accept the reality of life’s passages and changes, which is to say things come, things go. Everything changes. Anakin becomes emotionally attached to things, his mother, his wife. That’s why he falls - because he does not have the ability to let go." --George Lucas, Revenge of the Sith commentary “But he become attached to his mother and he will become attached to Padme and these things are, for a Jedi, who needs to have a clear mind and not be influenced by threats to their attachments, a dangerous situation. And it feeds into fear of losing things, which feeds into greed, wanting to keep things, wanting to keep his possessions and things that he should be letting go of. His fear of losing her turns to anger at losing her, which ultimately turns to revenge in wiping out the village. The scene with the Tusken Raiders is the first scene that ultimately takes him on the road to the dark side. I mean he’s been prepping for this, but that’s the one where he’s sort of doing something that is completely inappropriate."--George Lucas, The Star Wars Archives 1999-2005 “[Anakin] turns into Darth Vader because he gets attached to things. He can’t let go of his mother; he can’t let go of his girlfriend. He can’t let go of things. It makes you greedy. And when you’re greedy, you are on the path to the dark side, because you fear you’re going to lose things, that you’re not going to have the power you need.” --George Lucas, Time magazine There's also another quote where he basically says they're really in love but it becomes kinda dysfunctional by the end, but I can't find the direct quote again, so take it with a grain of salt. The point behind the above collection of quotes is that Anidala is both, that it's genuine love--it has to be genuine love for the story to work--and it's toxic--it has to be toxic for the story to work. The whole story is that Anakin fell into attachment (the fear of being without someone, so much that you would do terrible things or rip yourself to pieces over it, that's the Buddhist-aligned definition and the one Star Wars is working with) because he became so greedy and possessive of her that he was willing to murder children just to keep the fear of her death at bay. But in order to be a tragic story, in order for us to care about the relationship and the characters in it, it also has to be genuine and true, there has to be real love there. Ultimately, yes, it was a destructive relationship because that's the basic premise of the story--Anakin's love turned to attachment, it turned to greed, it turned to possessiveness, it turned to horror--that there are signs all along the way, but that the sweet moments are genuine, too, that their laughter in the grass on Naboo is real, that their ache for each other as the war kept them apart was real, that Padme's excitement about having their baby was real, because none of them were monsters when they started out, not even Anakin, for all that he forged himself into one. Our hearts wouldn't break for monsters if there was no love in them to start with. (Whether someone thinks this was well done or not, that's a different argument to be had! But I think fundamentally the thing the story was going for is that they started out sweet, but Anakin's fears and Padme's desire to look the other way over his terrible acts, took them to a very unhealthy, awful place in the end.)

#anakin skywalker #padme amidala #anidala for blacklist #meta

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valenteal · 4 months

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Here’s the thing about Dazai and Akutagawa: Dazai is only 2 years older. When they meet they are 16 and 14. When Dazai leaves they are 18 and 16. What Dazai did was wrong and messed up. But they were both kids. And Akutagawa never expected to be safe with Dazai. Their situation was not a healthy one for either of them and in their eyes and in the eyes of the people around them Dazai didn’t do anything wrong. He wasn’t supposed to care about Akutagawa, he wasn’t supposed to protect or provide for him. Dazai’s job was to make Akutagawa a mafioso, then to command him. He was his boss and his trainer. Not his parent or brother. The emotional attachment that Akutagawa has was not planned for or expected, it was a result of his own issues and it’s warped and toxic. Akutagawa doesn’t care about Dazai as a person so much as a means of getting validation. He doesn’t like Dazai. He punched Dazai in the dungeon scene. He was absolutely ready to kill Dazai in Dead Apple. He hates Dazai for leaving without acknowledging his power. He hates Dazai period. But he craves his approval. He doesn’t listen to Dazai, he just wants to become more powerful. He thought that killing Oda would get him Dazai’s approval! He largely ignored much of what Dazai tried to teach him about restraint and strategic thinking. He doesn’t care why Dazai left, or why he doesn’t acknowledge him for all the people he’s killed and buildings he’s blown up. Look, I like Akutagawa, he’s a great character and he’s super complex and a great way to study trauma and violence and how it can affect a person. But he wasn’t helpless and Dazai’s treatment of him was more akin to Darth Vader with the inquisitors than Palatine with Vader/Anakin if that makes sense. Dazai didn’t give a shit about Akutagawa because he didn’t give a shit about anything at all. He saw no value in anything and treated everyone around him like they were nothing. Akutagawa was the one who made Dazai so important to him, who turned their relationship so incredibly toxic by assigning it so much value, and Dazai did nothing to encourage that.

#this was part of another post #but if its shorter maybe people will read it #bsd #bungou stray dogs #analysis #character analysis #relationship analysis #bsd dazai #dazai osamu #bsd akutagawa #akutagawa ryuunosuke

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knife-em0ji · 8 months

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Sorry for this long post but can people stop treating Vader and Anakin as completely separate people. Like. That type of dissociation were obviously coping mechanisms by Old Ben and Vader. Not like. A literal fragmentation of personalities. Like if you love Anakin Skywalker imo you have to accept that he was a cute kid and a padme simp and a fun older brother and a boy desperately in need of acknowledgement and praise and a father who ultimately loved his son but also a guy who commits atrocities in his anger and strangles people who annoy him and has a victim/persecution complex (although admittedly for good reason) and was also a notorious child killer. This man contains multitudes.

Imo falling to the dark side/using the light side of the force isn’t marked by a shift or fragmentation of personality, but rather what emotions are used to channel the force and guide one’s actions. I think part of what’s so hard about resisting the dark side and coming back to the light is that there’s positive feedback loops of power, and resisting that by doing good and healthily channeling emotions is just plain hard. Especially in the case of Anakin, who is notoriously a “in for a penny, in for a pound” type of guy. He’s loyal and loves completely and dangerously with his whole heart, and he hates just as much.

And I think guilt is a huge factor with him struggling to do good; it’s pretty much a thought process of “Well, I’ve already committed thousands of atrocities and have countless amounts of blood on my hands, I have to believe whole hog in what I’ve been doing because then otherwise what was it all for.” I think that’s what makes his sacrifice for Luke so poignant, because it speaks to how much he loves his son that he’s able to overcome that spiral and do one last act of love for his son, unselfishly and without rationalization.

Idk, I just watched ESB again, and I think beyond just wanting to possess Luke and use him for power, it’s reasonable to think that part of the reason Vader wants him so badly to turn to the dark side with him is that he still thinks the dark side is the only way he can have enough power to protect his family and therefore keep them—he’s objectively much more powerful than he was in the prequels, and a main part of his struggles during the fall of the Republic was that he didn’t feel “strong enough” to protect the people he loved as a Jedi. He wasn’t able to free the slaves. He wasn’t able to save his mother. He wasn’t able to stop Ashoka’s expulsion from the order. He wasn’t able to prevent Padmé from dying. With the commitment he’s had to his path and the objective amount of power he’s amassed since the twins’ births, I think it’s reasonable to assume he desperately grasping at the idea that somehow, this time, he’ll be able to achieve what he’s never been able to do before. But his failure always lies in the fact that his motivations are, and always have been, ultimately self-serving, that his pride and fear of loss—which are completely understandable in moderation and not something he should necessarily be punished for—outweigh his real and genuine care for his loved ones and the galaxy at large.

Idk. All this to say that Anakin has always been Vader and Vader has always been Anakin. They’re the same fucking person, you fools! Stop taking dissociative rationalization literally!!! It’s right there in the text!!!! His return to the light does not negate his time in the dark and vice versa! There is good in him !! He is capable of unspeakable evil !!! BOTH ARE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!

#darth vader #anakin skywalker #Star Wars #look. I have a PhD in Darth Vader. he is my babygirl. my sweet cheese. my silly rabbit.#my meow meow has committed atrocities by the likes you’ve never even believed #Vader studies #tbh don’t even get me started about how I think imposing a strict binary on a cosmic energy field and channelling exclusively one side of it #is reductive to the theme of ‘balance’ like. how can you be balanced if you only use one side and whole heartedly reject the other huh. huh

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anghraine · 1 year

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I was just making tea and suddenly thought about how Anakin, a former slave, essentially has to address his teacher and (according to him) father-figure as "master," and continues to do so even after he's a Jedi knight and no longer Obi-Wan's pupil. When he falls, he addresses Palpatine as "master."

And when he meets Obi-Wan in ANH, his exact wording is "When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master."

It's worth noting that Palpatine never appears in ANH, and Vader never addresses anyone that way. Tarkin can get him to do things sometimes, but it seems mostly because he sees Tarkin's point or just doesn't care enough to fight about it, and he's not shy about voicing disagreement when he considers it worth the trouble. So he does exercise quite a bit of agency.

But things are a bit different by ESB. He seems to have a more powerful role in the Imperial hierarchy, yet at the same time, he has to kneel to Palpatine and call him "my master." However, this turns out to be something of a ploy; he's actually plotting against the Emperor. There's still some sense of agency there.

It's been largely crushed by ROTJ, though he manages to assert himself in small ways (mainly by determinedly referring to Luke as "my son" where Palpatine talks as if Vader and Anakin were separate people). Palpatine calls Anakin "my friend," but Anakin clearly understands this isn't true.

And after Anakin tried to get Luke to join him against the Emperor in ESB, by ROTJ, he's saying to him, "I must obey my master." His subjection now even extends to Luke in his view: "He is your master now."

This is ... horrifying, actually. And there's a certain logic to his final choice in this sense. I think it's pretty clear that Palpatine was orchestrating his death and replacement. The question was not if he would die, but when. And it seems like part of him is still very much in "I must obey my master" mode as he watches Palpatine (slowly and painfully) kill his son. But a larger part of him realizes that he is free to act.

Yes, that action will kill him. And no, he's not actively trying to die in order to escape consequences or whatever the hell that reading is. The narrative is structured in such a way that rebelling against Palpatine and acting freely will mean his death. Still, he can do it. He can, at least, choose how he dies, and save his son (the son he earlier consigned to Palpatine's mastery!). He can do something that he's rarely been able to: what he wants.

What he wants is to save Luke and see him with his own eyes. And that's exactly what he gets.

I've talked before about how the time crunch that the OT ran into affected Anakin's arc—his redemption was earlier envisioned as more extended and it's not clear that he would have immediately died. But the canon version does achieve something important, I think, in making the set piece ultimately pivot on Anakin's ability to choose.

#anghraine babbles #star wars #anakin skywalker #long post #also thinking about how he must have thought he'd die unmourned for a very long time #and without any say over how it happens #and because he makes the choice to sacrifice himself he gets what he wants and he dies beside someone who loves him

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uh-oh-its-bird · 1 year

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Hi there take some unsolicited starwars fic ideas that Im literally never going to fully write but am agressivley thinking about anyways

Summary:

A ghost sits in the emperor's shadow. Teeth bared, eyes sharp, lying in wait.

Tldr; Fox is killed by Palpatine but at this point his soul has been fucked with by dark force shit(tm) so much that he's able to linger on as a half-there remnant

When Luke confronts Palpetine some more weird force shit(tm) happens and Fox is able to manifest in time to kill the bitch, and by eating his soul (???) he gains the power to manifest more fully as some sort of very much *not* human force,,, *thing*

Also Cody and Obi-Wan are still alive and also are sickeningly in love because fuck you that's why

I need you to imagine Sunshine Luke holding up Clearly Not Normal Fox like

"!!!!!! Look what I found!!!!!!"

"Luke he ate the emperor"

"Ok and?"

This also means Darth Vader is alive so he's just kind of Awkwardly standing there in the corner like

🧍‍♂️ "Commander Fox. I am." *heavy breathing.* "Pleased to see you survived."

"I didn't."

*More heavy breathing*

No clue how that'd go but it'd go SOMEWHERE

Maybe Fox wanted to eat him too but has some sort of weird pity for him after watching over the Emperor's shoulder for so many years. They're both Palpatine's fucked up little experiments, even if Fox can identity exactly what went wrong a LOT better than Anakin. Hell, they actually possibly interacted some before Fox got axed, maybe they were almost friends. Got that good old 'unspoken understanding' energy where they make eye contact once in a while and just kind of nod and look away.

Thinking also ab how the rebels are either, totally off put and don't trust him at all or *Oh wow well he killed the emperor for us!!! But he's also uhh. Kind of a freak. But he killed the emperor, so???* or just full throttle *He killed!!! The emperor!!! My favorite boy!!!! Look at him go!!!!! Eldrich who?? I don't care I am in LOVE!!!!*

Fox getting all this love and support from some VERY eager and thankful rebels. He's one of them now!! No take backs!!!!

Also Luke has absoloutley claimed him as his own. Cool powerful clone commander??? Sort of friends with his dad??? Killed the emperor??? Luke NEEDS them to be friends. Leia is a bit more hesitant at first but warms up quickly, and Han is Han so he probably makes some noise ab it but the second he hears anyone say shit he's ready to throw down.

I'm actually a personal fan of 'being half force means Anakin was a 'lill otherworldly and that otherness definatley passed down to his kids' so maybe Palpatine's experiments had to do with trying to shove some of that specific otherworldliness into Fox, and it kind of resonates with the twins. They see him and just go *!!!! Oh???? One of us???*

Han in the bg with his own weird force null thing and his close relationship with the twins just. Not really sensing anything wrong. He's grown even number to weird otherness and eldrich force vibes, Fox is a bit odd to him but he just can't see what the fuss is about. Everyone needs to calm the fuck down smh

And Fox ofc just standing there covered in blood as he's suddenly receiving all this positive attention and support like *I don't know how to feel about any of this.*

Part of him wants to just. Return to the shadows. He's done his part now. He wants to rest. Let the man SLEEP he's fucking earned it

Anyways this is definatley inspired more than a little by @wreathedinscales's Corrie Red AU, which you should absoloutley read if you like anything eldrich and anything Fox

#birds fic talk #starwars #starwars clone wars #fox #clone commanders #commander fox #clone commander cody #codywan #ao3 #darth vader #anakin skywalker #starwars original trilogy #Palpatine #Palpatine dies #eldrich jedi stuff #fanfiction #archive of our own

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tennessoui · 1 year

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hi kit! I was rereading your playmaker au (I absolutely love it btw!!!) and I have soo many questions! Like? How does qui-gon react to obi-wan showing up to the ball/gala/thing(?) with anakin? is he angry? upset (probably not lol)? does he talk to obi-wan/anakin or does he just ignore them outright? does anakin provoke him (of course he does but howwww???)

also, obviously your writing is amazing and I love literally everything you do!!!! <33333333

here is what happens at the policeman's ball! told from mace windu's pov (in this au he was like obi-wan's supervisor)! i think qui-gon is definitely furious, but after this night he also pivots to try and get obi-wan's loyalty back -- but before that, there's the anger

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Mace Windu has a headache and a terrible feeling about this whole thing. He never likes anything that has to do with the City politicians, especially the Mayor, and the annual Policeman’s Ball is probably the thing he likes the least.

It’s opulent and gaudy and uncomfortable to have so many eyes on him, on their work, as if they care about him and the department any other day of the year. But he knows as well as any of the detectives that this Ball is the bed they must get into with the politicians, the city’s most wealthy. Here is the night money slides across palms, deals are struck and good men leave their morals at the door.

Just for one night. Just for the sake of their offices, their men. Those who schmooze the best, woo the most politicians, the most wealthy elite, are the ones who get the better budgets, the newer equipment. And Mace is Coruscant born and bred: he, like everyone else, knows that morals are the first things to go when lives are on the line.

Maybe it wasn’t always like this, but Mace cannot remember another way. Not in this city where even the politicians don’t have the actual power nor the funds or means to oust the men who do--the men and women who cut through the crowds with sharp smiles and rough palms, heads high and proud, draped in diamonds and pretty things, suits clean-cut and perfectly tailored.

Members of mobs, inside the city and out. Leaders of far-reaching crime syndicates, the kind Mace has committed his life’s work to fighting, to rooting out of Coruscant.

Everyone knows who they’re climbing into bed with when they shake Asajj Ventress’ hand to seal a deal, when they laugh too hard at Rush Clovis’ comment, when they fall over themselves to give Anakin Skywalker their attention.

No one admits it.

Mace has lost men—good men—in the pursuit of justice against the mobs of Coruscant, sure that with enough evidence, he can put at least one away for life. It’s a dream he and his captain, Qui-Gon Jinn share.

Tilting his head, Mace finds his superior in the crowd, the man’s tall and unmistakable hair making him stand out as much as his stony silence and refusal to play along this year.

He wonders if Jinn feels the same exhaustion as Mace does. The dream has never felt farther away. The price has never seemed so steep.

Jinn lost his son, not even six months ago. The boy had been bright and clever, and Mace had looked at him and felt hope for the future of the city, all bundled up in Obi-Wan Kenobi’s soft smile.

He never should have been sent undercover. Mace shouldn’t have allowed it when Jinn passed down the orders. Kenobi was too young, too willing to prove himself, too naive for the mission.

And Vader took him, made him into just another bright young light snuffed out before its time.

Mace downs the rest of his drink and cuts through the crowd to reach Jinn’s side when he notices the mayor approaching. Jinn had insisted on coming—truly, he couldn’t not attend as their captain—but he will not be at his sharpest, at his most willing to play along tonight.

Jinn has always had the strongest morality of any guy Mace knows in the force, but he’d been willing to say what he had to say in the past to look out for his men, play nice with the politicians for the better budgets, the new supplies.

Losing his son changed something in him though. Made him colder. Made him cling even tighter to his morals.

With a dead wife and an estranged son, his convictions were all he had left—save for his job.

“Mayor Palpatine,” Mace says easily, holding his hand out to shake the mayor’s hand. “You’ve outdone yourself this year.”

The mayor smiles at him with a sick sort of grin, but his attention is almost completely focussed on Jinn. “You know how much I enjoy the Policeman’s Ball. All of Coruscant’s best and brightest in one place for one night…a marvelous opportunity to strengthen our friendships, build trust, and honor those who protect us.”

Jinn’s returning smile looks stretched far too thin across his face. Mace closes his eyes in silent prayer that Jinn will hold his tongue.

“All of the riches of Coruscant in one place,” Jinn says, “and those who are bound by duty to protect them.”

“And what a noble calling that is,” the mayor smiles and there is something wrong about it, something terrible. “Only few are truly cut out for such a path, Captain Jinn, and we thank you for your stalwart service.”

He pauses and his face shifts into one of regret. Mace feels on edge.

“In fact,” Mayor Palpatine says, “I was just chatting with your son, and he—”

“He’s here?” Jinn straightens his shoulders, posture becoming ramrod straight as his eyes leave the mayor to roam around the rented room. “How?”

“Oh?” Palpatine raises both his eyebrows in mock surprise. “You didn’t know?”

“My son is no longer with the Force,” Jinn bites out, voice filled with more venom than Mace has ever heard before. “He should not have been allowed to come tonight.”

“Ah,” Palpatine says. “I see there’s been some confusion. Your son is attending as Mr. Skywalker’s companion for the evening, not as a member of the police force. Though—there they are actually. I do hope I did not ruin a surprise visit!”

Mace, with a feeling of dread welling up in his gut, turns his head to look at the two men Palpatine is now gesturing forward.

Anakin Skywalker prowls towards them like some great beast returning from a hunt with prey already dead between his jaws, or like an emperor returning to his city fresh from a conquering.

He looks neat and pristine, eyes crinkling with the force of his smirk as he guides Obi-Wan Kenobi to meet them with a hand pressed to the boy’s lower back.

Still some paces away, Skywalker leans down to whisper something into Obi-Wan’s ear, and the boy snaps back with a scowl, voice soft so as to hide his words.

The boy’s hair is short and rather awkwardly cut, but it’s the same strawberry-blonde Mace remembers seeing the boy’s mother wear. His eyes are hers as well, clear, light blue, though they have none of the softness Mace recalls him having before they sent him undercover.

He looks well-fed at least, and he holds himself close to Skywalker’s body, as if he truly feels safe in the claws of a dragon.

Since the last time he saw the boy leaving the precinct, on his way into Skywalker’s arms, he has wondered how Obi-Wan liked his new life. If he felt like it was worth it, to lose his job and his father and his future for the mobster who would never be capable of loving him back, not truly.

Looking at Obi-Wan now, dressed in expensive, soft-looking clothes, and carefully held in Skywalker’s arm, Mace can’t deny that the boy looks fine.

Healthy. Happy, if not for the current scowl marring his features.

“Gentleman,” Skywalker says when they reach them, holding out a hand for Jinn to shake.

Jinn does not move.

Skywalker’s eyes flash like flint sparking, and he adjusts his grip on Obi-Wan, pulling him fiirmly into his side and slightly in front of him, even as he drops his hand.

The tension in the air chokes any sort of conversation starter Mace can think of before it leaves his lips.

His eyes, without his conscious permission, remain stuck on the face of his biggest regret, unable to overlook the way Obi-Wan turns into the line of Skywalker’s body, as if taking comfort from his touch—as if Mace and Jinn are the lions and Skywalker Obi-Wan’s champion.

“I hadn’t realized you—” Palpatine starts to say, but he is cut off.

“Obi-Wan,” Jinn says suddenly, tone harsh, every inch the captain of the police. The tension in the air increases exponentially. Mace hadn’t realized that was possible. “You cut your hair.”

Something dark flashes across Skywalker’s face, and Mace watches as he moves his hand up to brush over the collar of Obi-Wan’s shirt, the exposed back of his neck.

“It’s in regulation,” Obi-Wan replies, looking for the first time this evening at his father. “Are you proud?”

The question is heavy, weighted: it always has been with Jinn and his son. Obi-Wan always did care less about if his father liked something he did and more about if he was proud.

“That your hair is in regulation?” Jinn’s lips are tight, jaw clenching and unclenching. “Obi-Wan, you have not spoken to me in six months. And you come tonight, to this event, on the arm of that monster, allowing him to move you about and speak for you, wearing clothes he bought you with money soaked in blood, and you ask if I am proud that you wear your hair to police standards? You have made a mockery of my life’s work, and you have lost yourself completely.”

Obi-Wan’s eyes look wet, and his hand is tangled in the pocket of Skywalker’s pants, seeking out connection. Mace closes his eyes and barely resists the urge to pinch the bridge of his nose. He has been witness to more fights between Jinn and his son than he cares to remember.

Jinn always finds the worst words to say.

And Obi-Wan learned how to fight from his father’s example.

They’re ruthless and they’re cruel, and they fight each other like they’ll accept no survivors.

“You are no son of mine, Ben,” Jinn says, even though Mace knows how much the loss of Obi-Wan has affected the older man, knows he misses him, knows he loves him still.

Obi-Wan blinks rapidly, hurt naked on his face, before he wipes it clean off and raises his hand to tuck a short piece of hair behind his ear. The motion is slow, pointed, and Mace’s eyes catch immediately on the angry red lines circling his wrist.

Handcuff marks.

Mace takes a fortifying sip of his drink when he hears Jinn’s sharp inhale at the sight.

“Daddy,” Obi-Wan says, “can we go home? It’s close to the twins’ bedtimes, I don’t want to miss it.”

It’s Skywalker who responds, because it’s Skywalker Obi-Wan was looking at when he spoke. It’s Skywalker who wraps his arm securely around Obi-Wan’s waist and presses a kiss to his temple, dark eyes never straying from Jinn. “Yes, of course, sweetheart,” he tells Jinn, smirking like the cat who captured the canary right under the birdkeeper’s nose. “Gentlemen,” he says to Mace and the mayor. “Apologies for leaving early, but family calls.”

They are only half-turned around when Jinn recovers his tongue. “They are not your family, Obi-Wan,” he says. To Mace, he sounds as if he is begging. He wonders what Obi-Wan hears in his voice.

The boy turns his head to the side, posture perfect and nose pointed slightly up in cold disregard. “I would hardly call you an expert in family, Captain Jinn. You do not even have a son.”

Jinn moves sharply forward at this, reaching to touch his son’s arm. But before he can touch him, Skywalker intercepts him and grabs his wrist so tightly that Mace can see his hand flexing with the effort. Jinn’s bones must be grinding together. “Do not,” Skywalker says lowly and darkly, every syllable dripping with implicit violence. “Do not try to touch what is not yours, Captain.”

“Ani,” Obi-Wan murmurs, turning in his hold so as to rest his hand lightly on Skywalker’s chest. Mace tenses, wondering if Obi-Wan will be treated with the same violence, the same dark look for having the nerve to try and tame the beast.

He is not.

The moment their eyes lock, Skywalker lets go of Qui-Gon’s wrist in favor of tucking a piece of hair behind Obi-Wan’s ear once again. There is nothing performative about the action now—just a man who cannot help but touch his—his lover.

The thought sickens Mace, and he knows it must be worse for Qui-Gon, who is still standing where he was left, hand halfway reaching out to his son and far, far too late to ever catch him.

#asks #playmaker au #obikin #vaderwan #obi-wan got so mad he called anakin daddy in front of his father #anakin is fascinated all over again and also hopes obi-wan knows that he is going to have to call him that again #and again and again

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paragonrobits · 14 days

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a random thought but it occurs to me that the Sith invariably and inevitably turning into burned out, hateful and lonely killers who impulsely wind up either murdering everyone they care about in fits of anger or not caring anymore about the causes that originally drew them to the Dark Side has a lot of merits, viewed objectively

among other things, the Dark Side encourages drawing on the worst parts of yourself; your drive to hurt others, the need to destroy, violence and anger for its own sake, and the specific point I think about is not only does the Dark Side involve a cultivated lack of compassion and willingness to hurt others

but also an erosion of self control, and especially impulse control. The light side is all about harmony, compassion, connection and so on, and especially discipline. The Dark Side specifically abandons that control.

So a Dark Sider is functionally supposed to be someone who embraces their darkest feelings and aggressively acts on them, and that self-control and not instantly obliging your impulses are antithetical to the Dark Side. To be a true Sith and use its powers consistently and well, you have to not have any self control. All signs indicate that impulses and violence drive a Sith and other Dark Siders as much as anything else.

When you have people entirely motivated by anger, resentment and hatred, it doesn't just erode their ability to care about anything or to cognitively understand that other people have feelings and lives, the sort of things the Sith do makes even more sense.

So in this case, Darth Vader strangling his wife in a fit of rage by him immediately assuming she's betrayed him at the first sign of her not instantly being on board his military empire idea, is not an isolated incident, or even something that would be particular to him.

For a Sith, this kind of violence is actively encouraged and demanded by the Dark Side. It's an inevitability.

#when someone trains themselves to act impulsively and not use self control at ALL #and indulges their every thought and idea the moment they have them #and are ALSO violently angry at all times #the BEST case scenario is a violent abuser #there's a reason you have to basically make an entire new setting with the names of these characters to #have the sith be ANYTHING other than frothing at the mouth tyrants #its specifically BUILT INTO THEIR NARRATIVE #queued #star wars

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raya-rhaenyra-ahsoka · 7 months

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Things I love about Ahsoka Ep. 7: Dreams and Madness

Anakin making holo-recordings for Ahsoka.

All I see is Anakin making video diaries and tutorials for his little sister. We hadn’t hear him say it, but he absolutely loves her and cares a lot for her. The question now is, how the hell did she get hold of those holo-recordings? Also, we need to see all 20 of them. I also think she had probs shown it to Luke and Leia at some point.

Leia saves Hera.

Of course, Leia would save everyone’s ass from trouble. It has always been her thing. C-3PO's timing was perfect. Also, Senator Xiono can go fuck himself. Chopper ready to throw hands at a senator is icing on the cake. And if they translate what he said, the entire thing would probably be bleeped out.

Huyang is an Obi-Wan Kenobi droid version.

Huyang complaining about Ahsoka’s reckless actions is so funny to me, honestly. In a way, she's being the Anakin to Huyang, being that Voice-of-Reason Obi-Wan persona to contradict to.

Thrawn’s mini-heart attack when he finds out who Ahsoka’s master was.

Thrawn, externally: *pokerface*

Thrawn, internally: What? No. That togruta bitch was trained by Anakin fucking Skywalker?! Omfg, this changes things.

So, a little background, Thrawn had always admired Anakin Skywalker and had worked alongside him since the clone wars, then as Darth Vader during the empire era. And to put it on modern terms, Thrawn was his biggest fan. He knows how powerful Anakin was and what he was capable of doing. So knowing that Anakin taught Ahsoka is information that could either make him or break him.

Ezra’s reaction to Sabine telling her about Ahsoka taking her as her padawan.

His reaction is the most Ezra thing ever. Obviously, he didn't expected Ahsoka to take on Sabine as her padawan considering she isn't force-sensitive. And Ezra is literally all of us when when we first watched the show, btw.

Ahsoka and Sabine’s Force bond.

It’s natural for the master and padawan to have a bond through the Force, regardless if jedi or sith. But with Sabine’s lack of force-sensitivity, this was something I did not expect. But nevertheless, I’m extremely happy about it.

Ezra and Sabine’s chaotic sibling energy.

We all know Ezra and Sabine go way back. They’ve been friends for a long time, they radiate chaotic sibling energy (sorry, sabezra/ezrabine shippers), even to the point of arguing while fighting for their lives. It's good to see that some things haven't changed.

Ahsoka and Ezra’s hug.

The last time these two met each other was in the World between Worlds, after Ezra saved Ahsoka from Darth Vader. Ahsoka had promised to find him when they get of there. But then again, they were at different points in time and Ezra disappeared with Thrawn to another galaxy. That makes this hug much more heartfelt and meaningful.

Ahsoka Tano of the Disaster Lineage™

• Unpredictable

• Reckless

• Purposely coming in late just to make a dramatic grand entrance and/or exit

• Never runs out of sassy comebacks when talking to the enemy

• Annoying the crap out of the people around them

• Has the signature troublemaker smirk 😏

• Expert lightsaber duelist

• Not following the no-attachment-rule

• Having good friendship with their padawans

Yep, she checks all the boxes and just further cements herself as part of the infamous Disaster Lineage™. Not to mention that she's indirectly teaching Sabine the same stuff. I can already hear Force Ghost Anakin cheering her on.

There are a lot of loose ends to tie in the season finale. Let's hope they'll give us an epic one and an interesting plotline for season 2.

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marvelstars · 11 days

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You know I like Anakin and Obi-Wan relationship in the clone wars, I like their jokes and their banter, I don´t think they were made to be master and apprentice but they could have become good friends even if Anakin wasn´t Obi-Wan´s padawan imo, that said while I dislike a lot of Obi-Wan´s choices when it came to Anakin and his training and even Luke´s training I don´t criticize him for what he did on Mustafar, mostly because it´s clear he was heartbroken and he indeed had orders from Yoda to kill Anakin for attacking the Jedi Temple and Obi-Wan did what he had to do as Anakin´s master and Anakin as well as Padme knew this too.

That said, I disagree with the fandom take that Obi-Wan would have been compassionate if he killed Anakin when he was burning alive, sorry but no, that´s not being compassionate, that´s revenge.

Being compassionate isn´t about killing somoene else even to spare them pain, it´s about suffering with them their pain and trying to make it better, coming from a place of understanding and Obi-Wan could not do that at the moment, he could not have compassion of Anakin for what he did, after becoming everything Obi-Wan hated and also because he was his master not his father. A master has a duty to their students while a father has love for their children and that´s what made all the difference.

This is why Obi-Wan and Anakin at the end of ROTS ryhmes with Vader and Luke at the end of ROTJ. Vader could have easily tell himself that kid wasn´t meant to be his, he wasn´t raised by him and he could become an adversary to his power acording to Sith creed but Vader could not see Luke in any other way than as his Son. The Son he and Padme were waiting for with so much happines, the Son Padme died to give birth to, the Son he also loved even if he didn´t understand how Luke could still care for him.

So in both moments a Son asked for help to their Parental figure but one was his master and the other was his father and it connects both trilogies beautifully because if one ended in pain, heartbreak and revenge, the other ended with compassion, love, care and hope of a better future.

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#anakin skywalker #luke skywalker #darth vader #obi-wan kenobi #star wars #Youtube #revenge of the sith #return of the jedi

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ladywren7 · 7 months

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Ahsoka Ep. 6 rambles

I have so many questions.

Ok but like how tf did Thrawn not 1 know if Ezra was dead or not and 2 where he was like bro it's been 10 years and Sabine was able to find his ass in less than a day like... personally if I got stranded with the enemy I'd either kill them or at least keep a fat eye on them and make sure no one comes for them and not me.

Also Thrawn still has the chimera and it works but how tf are all those troopers still loyal to him, like I find that crazy. I get it they probably would have killed defectors but if I wasn't even getting paid for my service and not doing literally anything anymore I'd dip immediately.

Also how tf did Thrawn not have dirt on Ahsoka like he had on everyone else?? Like everyone and their mom probably knows who Anakin, said to be the best jedi in history for them, had as a padawan. Ig Vader destroyed all the history but come on even ppl who weren't in the order know. And also she was already trapped on dathomir when he came along but still like catch up Thrawn lol.

Also I reaalllyyyy hope Baylin and Shin realize that Morgan, Thrawn, and the empire as a whole, don't actually care about them as much they think. When Bailyn was like ah yes I sense something...gurl that's not power that's ur ass getting left too. I'm really setting my eye out for Shin tho bc since she younger I feel like she's more vulnerable to changing for the better than Bailyn whose already deeply rooted in his ways. Like when Shin went "oh just like me" when he mentioned being trained like a jedi gives me so much hope. Like plsssss join the rebels they have cookies and lesbians.🙏🙏

#star wars #star wars rebels #ahsoka series #ahsoka show #ahsoka tano #star wars ahsoka #ahsoka spoilers #shin hati #sabine wren #thrawn #random rants with a fangirl

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gffa · 2 years

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“Don’t try it!” “You underestimate my power!” “Do you really want Anakin dead?“ “You're a great warrior, Anakin, but your need to prove yourself is your undoing. Until you overcome it, a Padawan you will still be.“ I keep thinking about the show’s choice not to de-age Hayden Christensen, but still set him during their pre-Attack of the Clones lives, and how it all fits together with everything else we know of their connection. I keep thinking about how the show has established they sense each other in the Force, they share visions in the bacta tank, they show us Obi-Wan seeing Vaderkin on Mapuzo. These two share thoughts and feelings throughout all of the series. And then this episode has Reva pointedly asking, “Do you really want Anakin dead?” with Obi-Wan’s very long pause and this comes after ten years of mourning Anakin, so undone by that grief because his love for Anakin was so large, his guilt is so massive because he cared so deeply about Anakin. Does Obi-Wan want Anakin dead? I don’t think almost anyone could say “yes” to that, not now. Those flashbacks, the ones of Anakin looking as he would as a 40 year old, the way Obi-Wan would still see him. The lack of de-aging Hayden’s face makes so much sense in the light of the idea of it being Obi-Wan’s view of him, that he cannot yet let go of seeing Vader as Anakin, he cannot see the mask, he can only see his Padawan’s face, even if he acknowledges that he’d be older now, this is an older Anakin, an older Vader, though, he is still a Padawan. The way those flashbacks are framed, they’re cut to and from Vader just as often (or more) than Obi-Wan, that we’re being told Vader has these thoughts in mind. But I don’t think they wholly make sense as being just from Vader’s point of view, this is also just as much about Obi-Wan. And I keep thinking about Obi-Wan’s last, desperate plea to Anakin on Mustafar, to not jump over onto the shore banks, “Don’t try it!” he says, knowing that if Anakin does, he’ll lose. Maybe some part of Obi-Wan is still trying to warn Anakin through this memory that’s being shared between them, don’t try this, don’t do this, you’re still making the same mistakes as always, back up and really look at yourself and your wants, don’t do this, Anakin. But Vader only takes the wrong message from it, that he has to be even stronger, not to actually overcome his own need for external validation. Even after everything that Vader has done, we know some part of Obi-Wan still loves him, and probably still doesn’t want him dead. Maybe some part of him is still trying to help Anakin and warn him off making a mistake again.

#obi wan kenobi #obi wan kenobi spoilers #anakin skywalker #meta

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