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audhd-nightwing · 6 months
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in honor of ace week
reply/reblog with your favorite canon acespec character OR your favorite character to hc as ace
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saffigon · 2 years
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I know I'm the Loveless Heartless Badass Guy on aro tumblr, but we, as a community, must work on supporting the more romance favorable, the lovequeer and arolovic, the romoaro, the greyspec etc part of the community.
The recent shift in focus to lovelessness, heartlessness, repulsion has been great in giving representation to those that feel underrepresented, but it is ultimately coming with the cost of pushing out those that enjoy and enjoy experiencing romance and love. That's not to say that those that are favorable, lovequeer, romo aro, greyspec, etc cannot also be loveless, heartless, repulsed, etc. Nor is it to say we should now push the loveless, heartless, repulsed folks out of the community. Or that lovelessness, heartlessness, or repulsion doesn't also experience strife still.
It is instead to say: we as a community are fostering a space of romance negativity, and to a certain degree, love negativity. Treating romance or love as something evil, something weird or wrong, equating them to illnesses: these are all the examples of romance negativity seeping into our community.
Romance and love still have a place in our community just as much as not experiencing them do. The unique intersection of being arospec and experiencing romance; The unique intersection of being loveless and lovequeer; These experiences are so important to our community and ultimately enrich it. We as an aromantic community must do better.
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Hey i want to send a big shout out to everyone who uses older aspec terminology. shoutout to people who use zed instead of allo, who still primarily describe themselves as partnering or non partnering or favorable. shoutout to using nonsam and not making the jump to the newer similar terms. shout out to people who dont keep up with all the latest identities and labels. shoutout to they people who are still using greyspec and who are helping keep where we came from alive. its super cool that you keep doing that and i cant wait for younger people to find out about their options because those terms and phrases are still being used.
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our-grey-experience · 2 months
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I didn't feel sexual attraction for the first time until I was over 20, and when I did, I was happy about it because having that experience would be useful for writing, which is like, the most ace reason to be happy about sexual attraction.
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Our Greyspec Experience
Welcome! This blog is like those of @our-aroace-experience @our-aplatonic-experience @our-arospec-experience for users to share their experiences on the greyspec.
The greyspec is for anyone who is not strictly allo or aspec for any attraction, including greysexual-spec, greyromantic-spec, greyplatonic-spec, greyalterous-spec, greyqueerplatonic-spec, and any other attraction.
About the Mod: - he/him pronouns - 20 yr old adult - greysexual, greyromantic, and greyplatonic
Anyone can interact with this blog, as we don't want to limit sharing experiences. That being said, we will not tolerate asks with bigoted sentiments.
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bloompawz · 2 days
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Reworking the A/Grey/Allo/Orchid Attraction System
As it stands currently, the a-spectrum encompasses any identity involving little or no attraction. This includes all grey orientations by default. The allo spectrum is treated as less of a spectrum, but more of a term for people who aren’t a-spec or grey. I think that this ultimately ends up being confusing, and could use some reworking.
(Some people might be getting a little anxious about where I'm going with this, especially if you're greysexual/demisexual/etc, so I want to make it clear right away: This rework is not designed to invalidate or exclude you.)
I keep seeing the a-spec get stretched to encompass more and more experiences, such as meneromantic: a term for people who experience romantic attraction easily, but prefer not to act on it unless they think their crush will reciprocate… Which just describes how most alloromantic people approach their attraction.
This was described as an “aro-spec” orientation, and as an aromantic person, I feel like that misses the point of the spectrum completely. I admit, it is a pretty niche term, and isn’t the end of the world, but it’s a symptom of a larger problem.
It’s becoming clear, at least to me, that people are unsure how to draw the line between a-spec and allo, due to the subjectivity of what “little attraction” even is, to the point of both terms becoming less meaningful over time. I don’t even know where I’m supposed to fit among those terms myself, at least when it comes to sexual attraction. I’ve actually opted not to label my sexuality largely for that reason; it’s why I’m a neu aro.
So I wanted to take a shot at proposing a change. Not for the sake of excluding or assimilating, but for the sake of making attraction/orientations more easy to navigate and explore, especially for people who are questioning. I made an effort to make this rework as inclusive as possible, while also being much more clearly understood. If you experience attraction and identify as a-spec, don’t worry! The rework still includes you; it just includes you in terms which are easier to define.
A-spec
The a-spectrum, under the rework, includes any identity which is defined by zero attraction, as well as experiences adjacent to that. In other words, if a person experiences absolutely no sexual attraction, no romantic attraction, and/or no tertiary attraction, they are a-spec. This includes:
Asexual: Experiencing zero sexual attraction, or having an adjacent experience to this.
Aromantic: Experiencing zero romantic attraction, or having an adjacent experience to this.
Aplatonic: Experiencing zero platonic attraction, or having an adjacent experience to this.
Cupio: Experiencing zero (sexual/romantic/platonic/etc.) attraction, but desiring a relationship commonly associated with that attraction anyway. For example, desiring a sexual relationship as an asexual person.
Apothi: Experiencing zero (sexual/romantic/platonic/etc.) attraction, and feeling repulsed by relationships and/or activities associated with that attraction. For example, being asexual and sex-repulsed.
Icula: Experiencing zero (sexual/romantic/platonic/etc.) attraction, but being open to relationships/activities commonly associated with that attraction anyway. For example, being asexual and open to sex.
Etc.
“Experiences adjacent to that” refers to anyone who doesn’t necessarily experience zero attraction, but still:
Feels strongly represented by a-spec identities/experiences.
Strongly relates to a-spec identities/experiences.
Needs access to a-spec resources, communities, and support.
Finds it easy, useful, and/or helpful to identify as a-spec, especially as opposed to not identifying as a-spec.
Finds one’s attraction to be irrelevant to one’s life, either because it’s so vague or infrequent that it has no impact, because one has negative interest in acting on it, or because one’s attraction otherwise has no relevance.
Note that “experiencing little attraction” is not a qualifier on its own, because what’s “little” is entirely subjective, and can be incredibly difficult to define. Note that you do not have to check each bullet point in the list above to be a-spec; just one is enough.
Greysexuality, greyromanticism, etc. can be a-spec, but these identities are not a-spec by default. It depends on the individual, their own experiences, and how they define/feel about their own identity.
Grey-spec
The grey spectrum, under the rework, includes any identity which doesn’t fit neatly into an a-or-allo binary. This includes:
People who aren’t sure whether they’re a-spec or allo-spec.
People who resonate with both a-spec and allo-spec identities/experiences.
People who resonate with neither a-spec nor allo-spec identities/experiences.
People whose identities are in constant flux, and thus difficult or impossible to pinpoint as a-spec or allo-spec.
People who fit into the a-spec category, but feel like the a-spec category is still insufficient in some way.
People who fit into the allo-spec category, but feel like the allo-spec category is still insufficient in some way.
People who feel like they fit somewhere between “experiencing attraction” and “not experiencing attraction” in some way.
Anyone else who can’t or won’t fit themselves into an a-or-allo binary.
Greysexuality, greyromanticism, etc. can be a-spec and/or allo-spec, but these identities are not either by default. It depends on the individual, their own experiences, and how they define/feel about their own identity.
I think this is a much needed change, not just because this is easier to define than figuring out what “little attraction” means, but because grey-specs don’t always want to be pigeonholed into being a-spec by default. It is a grey area, after all.
Allo-spec
The allo spectrum, under the rework, includes any identity in which one experiences attraction, no matter how much or how little. This includes:
People who experience little attraction.
People who experience a moderate amount of attraction.
People who experience a lot of attraction.
I’ve decided to include all experiences of present attraction in this spectrum because it can be extremely hard (or impossible) to quantify how much attraction you experience in comparison to other people. If you experience attraction, it isn’t necessarily going to be clear whether you experience a lot or a little or something between. Including all present attraction under the allo-spec, no matter the amount, makes it much easier to define where you fall within these spectra.
Greysexuality, greyromanticism, etc. can be allo-spec, but these identities are not allo-spec by default. It depends on the individual, their own experiences, and how they define/feel about their own identity.
Orchid-spec
This is an additional spectrum for people who experience attraction, but do not want to act on that attraction. For example, an orchidsexual person experiences sexual attraction, but does not want to have sex under any circumstances.
I didn’t come up with this spectrum, but I’ve decided to include it here, because a person may feel that orchid-spec is the only spectrum that feels relevant to their experience, with a/grey/allo being completely irrelevant or inapplicable. Though, a person may resonate with orchid-spec in addition to other spectra, which is also valid!
Overlapping spectra
All spectra within this proposed system can overlap in some instances.
For example, if a person experiences attraction, but feels strongly represented by a-spec identities, they could be a combination of a-spec, grey-spec, and allo-spec. They might identify with one spectrum more than the others, but they would be included in all three.
As another example, a person may fall under all four spectra, because:
Their attraction is irrelevant to them, so they identify as a-spec.
They relate to both a-spec and allo-spec, so they identify as grey-spec.
They experience attraction, so they identify as allo-spec.
They don’t want to act on their attraction, so they identify as orchid-spec.
A person might also identify as both grey-spec and a-spec, but not allo-spec, because they don’t know whether they experience attraction or not, but they relate to a-spec identities and experiences.
Another person might fall under both allo-spec and grey-spec, but not a-spec, because they experience attraction, but feel that the allo-spec is insufficient to describe their identity, while also not resonating with the a-spec at all.
These are just a few examples of how spectra could possibly overlap. There are other ways that these spectra could be combined which have not been listed here.
And of course, it's up to you how you identify! I just wanted to propose a system which (hopefully) makes attraction easier to understand and navigate.
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indianasexuals · 3 months
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Let's talk about Greysexuality.
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#asexuality #asexual #indianasexuals #lgbtqia #lgbtqiaplus #indianaces #queer #asexualpride #sexuality #gender #loveislove #asexuals #greysexual #greyasexual #greyspec
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Cupiofray Pride Flag
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Cupiofray: being cupio- in a fray- way (or being fray- in a cupio- way), or experiencing a mix of the two, or being in the midway between both fray and cupio.
For example, desiring certain forms of relationship while not feeling attraction, then they feel attraction but loose it after an emotional or deep connection with a person; desiring a specific form of relationship even when they are not attracted anymore in the attraction associated with the type of relationship.
It includes mesi/grey areas, depending on the perspectives it could be allospec, aspec, pomospec, quoispec, etc. or simply cupiospec.
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significantouther · 7 months
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Not everyone who isn't fully A nor fully allo consider themselves aspec.
Some consider themselves as greyspec, but see it as a distinct, but adjacent umbrella from aspec.
Similarly, some see being cupiospec as a related, but distinct experience from being aspec and identify solely as cupiospec.
Some feel more attachment to allo experiences and communities, for many reasons including feeling attraction most of the time, and consider themselves allospec
Some feel closer to allo, but still feel distinct/separated from the allo spectrum, thus considering themselves lightspec (light-allo is the allospec counterpart of grey-a) and considering it distinct but adjacent to allospec.
Others may see been orchidspec as something separate from both aspec and allospec and identify only as orchidspec.
Some consider themselves neither aspec nor allospec, but also themselves as closer to either, preferring to label themselves as neutro(spec).
Some consider themselves to be simultaneously aspec and allospec, alspec.
Others, like me, fluctuate between two or more of these possibilities (that may or may not include also (sometimes) being aspec. In my case it does)
And many other possibilities.
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entropy-sea-system · 7 months
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we love that light greyromantic and dark greyromantic terms exist bc its fun to be able to label yourself that way !! (Some of us in our system find these labels useful)
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mourningmogaicrew · 1 year
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Presential attraction
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Flags in order from top left to bottom right: presential attraction, apresential, apres-spec, demipresential, autopresential, fraypresential, cupiopresential, apresflux, aprespike.
Presential attraction: attraction based on wanting to know someone through their physical presence.
Presential attraction is the opposite of virtudinal attraction. This is a type of tertiary attraction (or physical attraction) and is not the same as wanting to know someone IRL or wanting physical contact/touch.
Apresential: not experiencing presential attraction.
Apres-spec: experiencing atypical or little presential attraction.
Demipresential: only experiencing presential attraction to someone after you form a(n emotional) connection to them.
Greypresential: experiencing atypical presential attraction (or relating to apresential experiences but not fully).
Autopresential: experiencing presential attraction to yourself (more than is typical). Examples may include wanting to spend time with (a version of) yourself or wanting to be in your own physical presence.
Fraypresential: experiencing presential attraction to someone when you first meet them or get to know them, but then the attraction fades after you form a stronger connection to them. The opposite of demipresential.
Cupiopresential: not experiencing presential attraction, but still desiring a relationship based off presential attraction or physically spending a lot of time with someone (ex: living with them or just enjoying their presence).
Apresflux: when your orientation fluctuates on the apres spectrum. Some people may become allopresential or completely apresential at times, others just have small changes in the amount of presential attraction they feel.
Aprespike: usually feeling no or very little presential attraction, but sometimes having (more intense) spikes of attraction before returning to baseline.
Flags are based off the original presential attraction flag (eyestrain warning if you click on the link), the demi/greysexual flags, the auto-spec flag, the fray/cupiosexual flags, and the aceflux/spike flags.
Also please note that there is a cool presential flag redesign here (eyestrain warning again) but I wanted to go even simpler/less like the original with mine.
Presential attraction (AKA tangible attraction) was coined in 2018 and the flag was made in 2021, this is just me making some subterms!
Flag IDs in alt text.
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saffigon · 2 years
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not allo or a- but a secret third thing [greyspec]
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we deserve more discussions in reblogs we deserve to have public community interactions we deserve to have accessible and easy to find spaces we deserve conversations and debates that are easy to find we deserve to move off discord and into older communities we deserve to be in forums and using forum and we deserve to get back on aven and other forum sites, we deserve to bring this back and honestly the community has been at a loss since privatizing. the community is more isolated and less cohesive and and less organized and aware and just… less of a community.
we should get back to interacting in reblogs. we need to. its not a question its impacting our community in so many ways we need to change our culture and get back to our roots, its important for the continued existence and for the longevity of our creators and for people to be more engaged in our community and culture. and i hope we get back to it soon.
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tortiefrancis · 1 year
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two pride icons i made with my friend's clangen oc, lynxstar!
× free to use, credit appreciated
× clangen game can be found here
× for @fangirlsovertoomanythings, design by her
× art by me
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[ id: two square icons of a stylized, digital drawing of Lynxstar, against two different pride flags, the asexual and the greysexual one, respectively. The asexual flag has four horizontal stripes, in black, gray, white and purple. The greysexual flag has five horizontal stripes, in purple, gray, white, gray and purple.
Lynxstar is a skinny, gray cat with a dark gray cape, tail tip, ears and bangs, light gray chest, belly, muzzle and under tail, dark lynx-like spots, fizzy ears and green eyes. He has sharp eyelashes, big ears and a long tail. He has one raised eyebrow as he frowns. /End id ]
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our-grey-experience · 22 days
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I chose the label of greysexual because I don't really feel at home in the ace community, but I'm also not 100% allosexual. I'm definitely on the allo side of the spectrum, but my sexual attraction is still spotty at best. The ace community isn't really for me personally; I don't relate to a lot of the experiences, as I do have strong sexual attraction and am mostly sex favorable. I called myself allosexual or allosexualspec for a while, and those can still be true, but I also don't entirely fit because I don't have sexual attraction towards specific people that consistently. Greysexual is the label I feel most at home with, especially as I can add it or omit it as I want and still feel complete in naming my orientation
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